[NEXT PROJECT] Captains Courageous by Rudyard Kipling

[Chris Spurgeon]

Having just finished a seafaring tale, I'd love to do another one -- Captains Courageous by Rudyard Kipling. It is THE great coming of age seafaring adventure novel.

It's on PG at https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2186 . 

There's a scan of the 1897 edition on the Internet Archive at https://archive.org/details/cu31924013493246/page/n1/mode/2up .

The book has a number of illustrations of the story, but we can just leave those out.

Sound good?

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

Sure, this should be pretty straightforward. Please send a link to your
repo once you start.

On 5/13/26 3:03 PM, Chris Spurgeon wrote:
> Having just finished a seafaring tale, I'd love to do another one -- /
> Captains Courageous/ by Rudyard Kipling. It is THE great coming of age

> seafaring adventure novel.
>
> It's on PG at https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2186 .
> There's a scan of the 1897 edition on the Internet Archive at https://
> archive.org/details/cu31924013493246/page/n1/mode/2up .
>
> The book has a number of illustrations of the story, but we can just
> leave those out.
>
> Sound good?
>
> Chris
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[Chris Spurgeon]

Here ya go…

https://github.com/chrisspurgeon/rudyard-kipling_captains-courageous

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Sure, this should be pretty straightforward. Please send a link to your repo once you start.

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[devino...@gmail.com]

Hello,

At one point, I thought about doing this book, and found a potential cover to go along with it: https://www.artic.edu/artworks/25865/the-herring-net

Hope it works for you, but if you find something better, then awesome!

Devin

[Alex Cabal]

OK, Emma will manage with Vince reviewing.

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[Emma Sweeney]

Can you send a cover mock-up?

Emma

[Chris Spurgeon]

That’s exactly the painting I was thinking of too!!!!!

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Can you send a cover mock-up?

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[Chris Spurgeon]

Hi Emma, here's a mockup of the cover...

I'm plugging along on the proofreading, but just landed a writing assignment that's due in a week, so I'm setting further proofreading aside for a few days. I'll pick it up again right after I'm done with the writing gig.

Chris

[Chris Spurgeon]

Wait, never mind that! Here's an even better Winslow Homer image!

That painting is called "The Fog Warning" and is on display at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. It was painted in 1885, and here it is shown in a book of Winslow Homer's works from 1923....

https://archive.org/details/winslowhomer0000wins/page/n25/mode/2up

What do you think?

Chris

[Emma Sweeney]

Looks good! I've added the artwork to the art DB.

Emma

[Chris Spurgeon]

Thanks!

[Chris Spurgeon]

OK, I think Captains Courageous is ready for inspection!

A few things I want to call attention to, to make sure what I did is acceptable...

Dedication : It's a little bit complex, with a name, plus a quote, plus the quote's author. Is the CSS OK?

Chapter 5: I used diary and diary-entry for the excerpts from the ship's log. Seemed correct to me, but wanted to call your attention to it. Also, in one of the log entries the compass direction "N. E." is mentioned. The space in there triggers a "Manual Review" in se lint, but the space is correct.

In Chapter 10 I also used diary and diary-entry for the church service reading of those lost at sea.

Thanks!

Chris

[Emma Sweeney]

- The quote should be in a separate epigraph.xhtml file with epigraph CSS (SEMoS 7.4). Also, the quote needs verse formatting (SEMoS 7.5).

- That's fine.

- Those aren't quite diaries with diary entries. They are unordered lists (SEMoS 5.6). They can be in unsemanticated <blockquote> elements.

Emma

[Chris Spurgeon]

OK, changes made, back to you!

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

OK, Vince you're up for review on this one

On 5/27/26 10:04 PM, Chris Spurgeon wrote:
> OK, I think /Captains Courageous/ is ready for inspection!

>
> A few things I want to call attention to, to make sure what I did is
> acceptable...
>

> *Dedication* : It's a little bit complex, with a name, plus a quote,

> plus the quote's author. Is the CSS OK?
>

> *Chapter 5:* I used diary and diary-entry for the excerpts from the

> ship's log. Seemed correct to me, but wanted to call your attention to
> it. Also, in one of the log entries the compass direction "N. E." is
> mentioned. The space in there triggers a "Manual Review" in se lint, but
> the space is correct.
>

> *In Chapter 10* I also used diary and diary-entry for the church service

> reading of those lost at sea.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 18, 2026 at 3:04:01 PM UTC-7 Chris Spurgeon wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 8:03:08 PM UTC-7 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> Looks good! I've added the artwork to the art DB.
>
> Emma
> On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 4:07:40 PM UTC-4 spurge...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Wait, never mind that! Here's an even better Winslow Homer
> image!
>
>
>
>

> Screenshot 2026-05-17 at 12.52.17 PM.png
>
> That painting is called "The Fog Warning" and is on display
> at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. It was painted in
> 1885, and here it is shown in a book of Winslow Homer's
> works from 1923....
>
> https://archive.org/details/winslowhomer0000wins/page/n25/

> mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/winslowhomer0000wins/
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>
> What do you think?
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> Chris
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[Vince Rice]

Yes, I started last night, I’ll try to finish today.

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[Vince]

I’ve noted a number of issues on the review, several of which will require a rebase. Ping me on GitHub if you need any help with that.

[Vince]

Oops, forgot: A couple of questions for you, Alex.

There’s an instance of “reading aloud from a book called “Josephus.” It’s obviously a book by Josephus, so I would ordinarily not tag it. However, it specifically says “from a book called,” and goes on to describe the physical book. Should that usage be italicized/tagged as a book or left as unsemanticated quotes?

There are also a couple of instances where “(Chorus.)” is printed above a line in a song. I didn’t know if we wanted to keep that; I found one other instance in the corpus (Lomax’s Songs of the Cattle Trail and Cow Camp), but I didn’t know if that was enough to be definitive. And if we do want to keep it, should it be just another `span` like the other lines, with CSS to center it?

[Chris Spurgeon]

Thanks Vince! I'll start working through these.

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

I think the book should go in italics, since presumably it refers to his
autobiography which is titled "Life of Flavious Josephus".

You can keep the chorus header. This occurs several times in the corpus.
You can wrap the chorus in <div> and then put the Chorus line in a
<header>. See
https://github.com/standardebooks/john-henry-newman_verses-on-various-occasions/blob/master/src/epub/text/verses-on-various-occasions.xhtml#L9190-L9203

On 5/28/26 5:27 PM, Vince wrote:
> Oops, forgot: A couple of questions for you, Alex.
>
> There’s an instance of “reading aloud from a book called “Josephus.”

> It’s obviously a book /by/ Josephus, so I would ordinarily not tag it.

> However, it specifically says “from a book called,” and goes on to
> describe the physical book. Should that usage be italicized/tagged as a
> book or left as unsemanticated quotes?

> ScreenFloat Shot of Firefox on 2026-05-28 at 17-20-43.png
>
> There are also a couple of instances where “(Chorus.)” is printed above
> a line in a song. I didn’t know if we wanted to keep that; I found one

> other instance in the corpus (Lomax’s /Songs of the Cattle Trail and Cow
> Camp/), but I didn’t know if that was enough to be definitive. And if
> we /do/ want to keep it, should it be just another `span` like the other

> lines, with CSS to center it?
>

> ScreenFloat Shot of Firefox on 2026-05-28 at 17-25-15.png
>
>
>
>> On May 28, 2026, at 2:47 PM, Vince <vr_se...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
>>
>> I’ve noted a number of issues on the review, several of which will
>> require a rebase. Ping me on GitHub if you need any help with that.
>>
>>> On May 28, 2026, at 11:39 AM, Vince Rice <vr_se...@letterboxes.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I started last night, I’ll try to finish today.
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2026, at 11:19 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, Vince you're up for review on this one
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/27/26 10:04 PM, Chris Spurgeon wrote:
>>>>> OK, I think /Captains Courageous/ is ready for inspection!
>>>>> A few things I want to call attention to, to make sure what I did
>>>>> is acceptable...
>>>>> *Dedication* : It's a little bit complex, with a name, plus a
>>>>> quote, plus the quote's author. Is the CSS OK?
>>>>> *Chapter 5:* I used diary and diary-entry for the excerpts from the
>>>>> ship's log. Seemed correct to me, but wanted to call your attention
>>>>> to it. Also, in one of the log entries the compass direction "N.
>>>>> E." is mentioned. The space in there triggers a "Manual Review" in
>>>>> se lint, but the space is correct.
>>>>> *In Chapter 10* I also used diary and diary-entry for the church
>>>>> service reading of those lost at sea.
>>>>> Thanks!
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[Vince]

On May 29, 2026, at 2:36 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I think the book should go in italics, since presumably it refers to his
autobiography which is titled "Life of Flavious Josephus”.

Keeping the italics is fine, but it is unlikely it is referring to his Life. The description most naturally fits The Jewish War, and that book is the most well-known and read of his works. That is something to be read “cover to cover”; his Life, not quite so much.

[Alex Cabal]

If it's not referring to a specific book then no quotes or italics

On 5/29/26 2:56 PM, Vince wrote:
>> On May 29, 2026, at 2:36 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think the book should go in italics, since presumably it refers to his
>> autobiography which is titled "Life of Flavious Josephus”.
>

> Keeping the italics is fine, but it is unlikely it is referring to his /
> Life/. The description most naturally fits /The Jewish War/, and that

> book is the most well-known and read of his works. That is something to

> be read “cover to cover”; his /Life/, not quite so much.

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[Vince]

That’s the trouble—I think it is referring to a specific book, but rather than refer to it by it’s name they’re referring to it by the author’s name (maybe his name was bigger than the title on the big leather-bound book they had). But since they referred to it by the author’s name, we don’t know which book they’re referring to, although, as I said, IMO the description that follows best fits The Jewish War.

As I said originally, I wouldn’t have even thought about it, except that it specifically says “a book called …” There are other instances of referring to Josephus in Courageous, but the others just use his name, not anything about “a book,” etc., so they aren’t tagged.

But, in this case, since we don’t know the book, I agree the proper thing to do is not tag it.

[Alex Cabal]

Well, that's why I assumed it was referring to his autobiography. What other book would be called by his own name?

[Vince]

Lots of people refer to books by the author. That’s all over the corpus. Maybe “Josephus” being unusual stood out more than the title of the book.

Life is only 30-50 pages, depending on typsetting; it can’t be that, or at least just that. Life is usually printed as a kind of appendix to Antiquities, but even then it wouldn’t normally appear on the cover, just in the ToC. And Antiquities doesn’t really match the description.

There were The Works of Josephus that contained everything—War, Antiquities of the Jews, Life, and a couple of other shorter essays—but they were multi-volume, so again don’t fit the description.

[Alex Cabal]

Sure, you can say "I read Shakespeare" but this work says it's a work
CALLED "Josephus". Nobody says "I read a work called Shakespeare" to
refer to Hamlet.

On 5/29/26 4:00 PM, Vince wrote:
> Lots of people refer to books by the author. That’s all over the corpus.
> Maybe “Josephus” being unusual stood out more than the title of the book.

> /
> /
> /Life/ is only 30-50 pages, depending on typsetting; it can’t be that,
> or at least just that. /Life/ is usually printed as a kind of appendix
> to /Antiquities/, but even then it wouldn’t normally appear on the
> cover, just in the ToC. And /Antiquities/ doesn’t really match the
> description.
>
> There were /The Works of Josephus/ that contained everything—/War/, /
> Antiquities of the Jews/, /Life/, and a couple of other shorter essays—

> but they were multi-volume, so again don’t fit the description.
>
>> On May 29, 2026, at 3:39 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, that's why I assumed it was referring to his autobiography. What
>> other book would be called by his own name?
>>
>> On Friday, May 29, 2026 at 3:20:42 PM UTC-5 Vince wrote:
>>

>> That’s the trouble—I think it /is/ referring to a specific book,

>> but rather than refer to it by it’s name they’re referring to it
>> by the author’s name (maybe his name was bigger than the title on
>> the big leather-bound book they had). But since they referred to

>> it by the author’s name, we don’t /know/ which book they’re

>> referring to, although, as I said, IMO the description that

>> follows best fits /The Jewish War/.

>>
>> As I said originally, I wouldn’t have even thought about it,
>> except that it specifically says “a book called …” There are other

>> instances of referring to Josephus in /Courageous/, but the others

>> just use his name, not anything about “a book,” etc., so they
>> aren’t tagged.
>>
>> But, in this case, since we don’t know the book, I agree the
>> proper thing to do is not tag it.
>>
>>> On May 29, 2026, at 2:57 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If it's not referring to a specific book then no quotes or italics
>>>
>>> On 5/29/26 2:56 PM, Vince wrote:
>>>>> On May 29, 2026, at 2:36 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the book should go in italics, since presumably it
>>>>> refers to his
>>>>> autobiography which is titled "Life of Flavious Josephus”.
>>>> Keeping the italics is fine, but it is unlikely it is referring
>>>> to his / Life/. The description most naturally fits /The Jewish
>>>> War/, and that book is the most well-known and read of his
>>>> works. That is something to be read “cover to cover”; his /

>>>> Life/, not quite so much.
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[Chris Spurgeon]

Hi Vince!

OK, I think I've worked through the review issues. Majority of fixes are self-explanatory, but there are a couple of things I want to note...

The original formatting of the various songs, verses, hymns, etc., is wackily inconsistent in the printed book. (Just take a look at the page scans for chapter 4 for instance). I think my CSS tweaks captures at least the general spirit of all the different formats without being too complex or crazy.

I went back and updated the commit messages that were too vague. Henceforth I'll be more diligent about using more atomic commits.

The linter had some problems because the private train car names "Harvey" and "Constance" are surrounded in double quotes, and then appear inside of someone speech. I've added a se-lint-ignore.xml file to deal with that.

Which brings me to a separate point, I still have problems when attempting to use a se-lint-ignore.xml file. When I create it, and then run se lint . , I always get this error...

 Error  se-lint-ignore.xml is invalid: failed to compile: Wrong escape sequence, misuse of character '\'

... so I have to write the ignore file kinda blind.

I would love to finally solve this issue, but I don't want to clutter up this conversation with a bunch of questions and back and forth about installing stuff via homebrew, problems with multiple versions of python, and who knows what all. Is there a separate conversation we can/should use for this type of toolset debugging?

Anyway, back over to you!

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

I don't see an ignore file in your repo. You can create a blank skeleton
with `se add-file ignore`. However lint is complaining that the actual
XML structure of your ignore file is incorrect, so that's not a lint
bug, rather your ignore file is invalid XML.

If lint complained about nested quotes then that's because if you have
nested quotes, the inner quotes become single quotes and not double
quotes. However also note that we generally remove scare quotes from
people/place names. So you could leave the first instance of scare
quotes so that readers know it's being used as a train name, and then
remove subsequent instances since we already got it.

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[Chris Spurgeon]

Ah sorry, the ignore file has come and gone. Vince explained to me (via an issue in the github repo) about my mistakes re the nested quotation marks. I made the needed corrections, deleted the ignore file from my local repo, re-ran se lint, and it ran error free. So I did a rebase to get rid of the commit where I originally added the ignore file.

But more significantly, I just generated a new skeleton ignore file via se add-file ignore as you suggested, and even the presence of that file, with no further modification, generates this same error when running se lint...

 Error  se-lint-ignore.xml is invalid: failed to compile: Wrong escape sequence, misuse of character '\'

[Alex Cabal]

Without seeing the file it's impossible to help

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[Chris Spurgeon]

Here ya go... skeleton se-lint-ignore.xml added to my repo at https://github.com/chrisspurgeon/rudyard-kipling_captains-courageous .

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

Works fine for me, must be something to do with your local installation

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[Chris Spurgeon]

Yeah, I agree. But *what* in my local installation?!?! Been trying to figure it out without success. Is there a better place to discuss / ask questions about local installs?

Chris

[Alex Cabal]

Very hard to say. Python dependencies and packaging are hell. You can
always try just reinstalling the toolset from the latest version. If
you're not on Ubuntu then try an Ubuntu VM if you're not confident in
your Python dependency and versioning debugging abilities.

On 6/5/26 3:31 PM, Chris Spurgeon wrote:
> Yeah, I agree. But *what* in my local installation?!?! Been trying to
> figure it out without success. Is there a better place to discuss / ask
> questions about local installs?
>
> Chris
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2026 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> Works fine for me, must be something to do with your local installation
>
> On 6/5/26 3:18 PM, Chris Spurgeon wrote:
> > Here ya go... skeleton se-lint-ignore.xml added to my repo
> at https://
> > github.com/chrisspurgeon/rudyard-kipling_captains-courageous

> <http://github.com/chrisspurgeon/rudyard-kipling_captains-courageous> .

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[Vince]

If you’re programmatically inclined, you can put a breakpoint() in se_epub_lint and step through it to see where the error is happening and perhaps get more context and information about what is throwing the error. Since we’re not getting the error, unfortunately we can’t debug it.

[Vince]

Alex, this should be ready for you.

[Alex Cabal]

OK Chris, looks good, I've released it!

I noted that you changed the default epigraph CSS. This should just be
copy and paste with no tweaks. I've restored it.

I also noted you forgot to run the manual spelling modernizations in the
step by step guide. Make sure to follow that guide even if it's not your
first book. I use it every time.

Lastly, you accepted a few removals of dashes in modernize-spelling that
should not have been removed, as stretched out dialect; and you went a
little overboard with no-break hyphens. You have to carefully check what
modernize-spelling does to make sure it did the right thing; it's often
wrong with dialect. No-break hyphens are for preventing a confusing word
break at the end of a line, so they're not necessary for separate sounds
separated by dashes, etc.

On 6/8/26 10:18 PM, Vince wrote:
> Alex, this <https://github.com/chrisspurgeon/rudyard-kipling_captains-
> courageous/> should be ready for you.

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[Chris Spurgeon (gmail)]

Thanks for these notes Alex!

I made a few other…let us say… less than perfect decisions and interpretations during my editing of this one. Vince deserves bit props for patiently setting me on the right path. I’m taking time to do a careful re-read the SEMoS, now that I have a bit of experience and understanding under my belt.

Chris

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