[First Project]

[Igor Dikiy]

I really like golden age detective novels, so I would like to start with Mignon G. Eberhart's The Patient in Room 18. 

Transcription in Project Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/75384

Internet Archive has scans, although it's from a later published version: https://archive.org/details/patientinroom1800eber

I have also secured a physical copy via interlibrary loan.

Please let me know whether I can proceed.

[Vince Rice]

Alex will have to approve the choice, but we require PD scans where available. HathiTrust has some here; there might be others elsewhere.

[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks, I missed the Hathi Trust source.

I also forgot to mention that this book is on the list of wanted books.

Best,

Igor

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[Alex Cabal]

Great, that one would be a good start.

You could technically use the scans you found at Internet Archive
because they have a 1929 copyright date, but IA has incorrectly put them
behind a borrow wall so we can't download them to archive them. So, use
the Hatghis cans for now, which we can download to archive.

Keep the dedication but cut the "note" at the beginning. Since you have
front matter in the form of a dedication, you will have to include a
half title page. See the manual for copy and paste.

Since the title has a numeral (18) you will have to add an alternatee
title in the metadata spelling it out (eighteen). This is to facilitate
searches. Also see the manual for how to do this.

Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
and typography sections:

https://standardebooks.org/manual

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-patterns

https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography

The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:

https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-step

This page on common issues in older books may be useful:

https://standardebooks.org/contribute/how-tos/common-issues-when-working-on-public-domain-ebooks

Please email often if you have any questions at all. Our standards are
well-established so there is probably already a standard for formatting
whatever problem you've encountered.

When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
that I can mark you as having started.

Have fun! :)

On 7/5/25 9:21 PM, Igor Dikiy wrote:
> I really like golden age detective novels, so I would like to start with

> Mignon G. Eberhart's /The Patient in Room 18/.

>
> Transcription in Project Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/75384
>
> Internet Archive has scans, although it's from a later published
> version: https://archive.org/details/patientinroom1800eber
>
> I have also secured a physical copy via interlibrary loan.
>
> Please let me know whether I can proceed.
>

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[Igor Dikiy]

I've started a GitHub repository: https://github.com/idikiy/mignon-g-eberhart_the-patient-in-room-18

There's a Transcriber's Note in the PG version mostly listing fixed typographical errors - include that or not?

Thanks,

Igor

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[Alex Cabal]

No, cut that.

Lukas will manage this with David reviewing.

On 7/6/25 7:21 PM, Igor Dikiy wrote:
> I've started a GitHub repository: https://github.com/idikiy/mignon-g-

> eberhart_the-patient-in-room-18 <https://github.com/idikiy/mignon-g-
> eberhart_the-patient-in-room-18>

>
> There's a Transcriber's Note in the PG version mostly listing fixed
> typographical errors - include that or not?
>
> Thanks,
> Igor
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 2:14 PM Alex Cabal <al...@standardebooks.org
> <mailto:al...@standardebooks.org>> wrote:
>
> Great, that one would be a good start.
>
> You could technically use the scans you found at Internet Archive
> because they have a 1929 copyright date, but IA has incorrectly put
> them
> behind a borrow wall so we can't download them to archive them. So, use
> the Hatghis cans for now, which we can download to archive.
>
> Keep the dedication but cut the "note" at the beginning. Since you have
> front matter in the form of a dedication, you will have to include a
> half title page. See the manual for copy and paste.
>
> Since the title has a numeral (18) you will have to add an alternatee
> title in the metadata spelling it out (eighteen). This is to facilitate
> searches. Also see the manual for how to do this.
>
> Make sure to read the Standard Ebooks Manual of Style before starting,
> as you won't know what to fix if you haven't read the standards. In
> particular, please closely review the semantics, high level patterns,
> and typography sections:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual <https://standardebooks.org/manual>
>

> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/4-semantics>
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-structural-
> patterns <https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/7-high-level-
> structural-patterns>
>
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/latest/8-typography>

>
> The step by step guide will take you from start to finish:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-by-

> step <https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-step-
> by-step>

>
> This page on common issues in older books may be useful:
>
> https://standardebooks.org/contribute/how-tos/common-issues-when-

> working-on-public-domain-ebooks <https://standardebooks.org/
> contribute/how-tos/common-issues-when-working-on-public-domain-ebooks>

>
> Please email often if you have any questions at all.  Our standards are
> well-established so there is probably already a standard for formatting
> whatever problem you've encountered.
>
> When you're ready, email back with a link to your Github repository so
> that I can mark you as having started.
>
> Have fun! :)
>
>
> On 7/5/25 9:21 PM, Igor Dikiy wrote:
> > I really like golden age detective novels, so I would like to
> start with
> > Mignon G. Eberhart's /The Patient in Room 18/.
> >
> > Transcription in Project Gutenberg: https://gutenberg.org/

> ebooks/75384 <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/75384>

> >
> > Internet Archive has scans, although it's from a later published
> > version: https://archive.org/details/patientinroom1800eber
> <https://archive.org/details/patientinroom1800eber>
> >
> > I have also secured a physical copy via interlibrary loan.
> >
> > Please let me know whether I can proceed.
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[Igor Dikiy]

A few questions: 

“The woman says ‘Explain’! Explain that I’ve gone straight off my head about a girl! ..." - In this case, should the ! after Explain be within the single quotes?

Or what about the ? here? “I believe your words were ‘I’d give my very soul for money’?” inquired the coroner nastily.

The story takes place in a hospital called St. Ann's - is there a semantic keyword for the St. abbreviation, which appears quite a lot?

Thanks!

Igor

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[Lukas Bystricky]

Generally punctuation goes inside quotation marks, but in both those examples the ending punctuation belongs to the outer speaker so you can leave them as is.

St. should be wrapped in abbr tags. Semanticate should take care of that. 

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[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks!

Another question: there's an in-line reference to a newspaper headline (see scan below).  Semanticate is putting it into <span class="sc">, is there a more specific semantic term for newspaper headline?

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[Lukas Bystricky]

Semanticate is doing that? I've never seen that, and I can't reproduce it. Unless something has changed we put small caps inside <b> tags as per 4.1.2.3. In any case there aren't any special semantics for newspaper headlines. 

[David Reimer]

No, `<span class="sc">` isn't the work of `se semanticate`: that's markup left over from the Project Gutenberg formatting. I generally do a search for `class="` around the moment of "splitting" body.xhtml into chapters to see how much of this kind of things the transcription contains.

FWIW!

David / Fife, UK

On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 at 06:03, Lukas Bystricky wrote:

Semanticate is doing that? I've never seen that, and I can't reproduce it. Unless something has changed we put small caps inside <b> tags as per 4.1.2.3. In any case there aren't any special semantics for newspaper headlines. 

[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks, Lukas and David!

You are right, semanticate is not doing that.  I just checked with git diff and this formatting was there from the original transcription.  I'll do that search for `class="` and replace this one with <b>...

Thanks!

Igor

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[Igor Dikiy]

Another question: is changing hyphenation in times, e.g. "twelve-thirty" to "twelve thirty," considered an Editorial change?

[Lukas Bystricky]

That's a typogrify change that's specifically covered by our style guide so you don't need to mark it editorial. 

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[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks, Lukas.  Sorry, it seems I'm doing some of these changes out of order, which is leading to my confusion.

Another couple of questions:

- The text has "M'h'm" and "H'm'm" a couple of times, does this count as elision (right quote) or stretching out a word (hyphen)?

- Should "en masse" be italicized?  It is in the original text and transcription, but I believe now it's considered "English enough."  It's in M-W.

- Does in-line text of a letter or telegram need a semantic flag of some sort?  Additionally, I can't find one specific to telegrams, would "letter" do?

- This book uses a couple of line breaks to indicate time has passed within a chapter.  The transcription in PG has rendered them as <hr/>.  Is that Ok to leave or do we have a better way of dealing with that?  Additionally, one of the break in the page scans is denoted by "*****," another just by an extra line space.  Any difference between those?

Thanks,

Igor

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[Lukas Bystricky]

No problem at all. I'll take your questions in order:

1. Right quotes 

2. No, any word that appears in the abridged MW that isn't specifically marked as a foreign phrase is not set in italics by default.

3. You'll want letter semantics and also the telegram class. See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.3/single-page#7.7.2

4. Unless there is some specific reason (e.g. the stars are referenced in the text) then I think you can treat those all using <hr/>

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[Christopher Hapka]

Additionally, one of the break in the page scans is denoted by "*****," another just by an extra line space.  Any difference between those?

Are the stars at the top or bottom of a page?  Publishers often used whitespace to indicate a break in the middle of a page, but stars or a line to indicate that there's a break across a page where it might not be obvious otherwise.

Chris

[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks, Chris.  The stars were at the top of page while the empty space was mid-page.  So that explains it.

[Igor Dikiy]

Another few questions:

- Should the half-title page be in en-GB or en-US?

- There is a use of "A.M" without an appended time, should it still be turned into lowercase? "Sent laundry this <abbr class="eoc">A.M.</abbr> Am getting nervous about second watch."

Thanks!

Igor

[Lukas Bystricky]

The half-title page should have the same language as the rest of the book; I guess en-GB in this case.

Interesting question about A.M. I'd be inclined to treat it as normal and put it in lowercase. Maybe put this in a separate commit though so it's clear and easy to revert later if needed. 

[Igor Dikiy]

I am currently proofreading the book but as that goes on, I'd like to propose a cover art piece: The Agnew Clinic by Thomas Eakins.  Public domain proof is the same book as for The Gross Clinic by the same artist (great use for Whose Body? by the way!).  My proposed crop is below as it focuses on the nurse, the narrator of the book (and series) but I'm open to other suggestions.

There is also a pretty cool cover of I presume the first edition on Wikipedia, but it would need to be scaled up and rotated and I don't know how to do that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Patient_in_Room_18

Thanks!

Igor

[Weijia Cheng]

To save the manager time, can you send a link to the full version of painting and the location in the book with the proof?

Also, you might be able to use this clean version of the dust jacket cover which only needs to be scaled up (there are lots of good free upscalers these days): https://dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg?auto=webp&v=1316529231

PD proof for the dust jacket: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Patient-Room-18-Eberhart-M.G-Grosset/32248732261/bd

[Igor Dikiy]

Thanks Weijia.

Full artwork: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg

Or

https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-clinic/The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG

Public domain proof:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=3

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=75

Thanks for the dust jackets link.

Best,

Igor

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[Lukas Bystricky]

Both artworks look good. I've submitted them to the DB. I guess I would have a slight preference for the first edition jacket, but we should see how the crop looks like first. 

[Alex Cabal]

I don't think the dust jacket matches the SE style

On 10/7/25 12:50 PM, Lukas Bystricky wrote:
> Both artworks look good. I've submitted them to the DB. I guess I would
> have a slight preference for the first edition jacket, but we should see
> how the crop looks like first.
>
> On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 2:08:58 PM UTC+2 idi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Weijia.
>
> Full artwork:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/

> File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg <https://
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/
> File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg>
>
> Or
>
> https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-clinic/
> The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/
> the-agnew-clinic/The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG>

>
>
> Public domain proof:
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/
> t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=3 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?

> id=gri.ark:/13960/t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=3>
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/
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> id=gri.ark:/13960/t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=75>
>
> Thanks for the dust jackets link.
>
> Best,
> Igor
>
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> On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 06:49 'Weijia Cheng' via Standard Ebooks
> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> To save the manager time, can you send a link to the full
> version of painting and the location in the book with the proof?
>
> Also, you might be able to use this clean version of the dust
> jacket cover which only needs to be scaled up (there are lots of
> good free upscalers these days): https://
> dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg?

> auto=webp&v=1316529231 <https://dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/
> pictures/1176.jpg?auto=webp&v=1316529231>

> PD proof for the dust jacket: https://www.abebooks.com/first-
> edition/Patient-Room-18-Eberhart-M.G-Grosset/32248732261/bd

> <https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Patient-Room-18-
> Eberhart-M.G-Grosset/32248732261/bd>

>
> On Monday, October 6, 2025 at 10:49:40 PM UTC-4 idi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> I am currently proofreading the book but as that goes on,
> I'd like to propose a cover art piece: The Agnew Clinic by
> Thomas Eakins.  Public domain proof is the same book as for
> The Gross Clinic by the same artist (great use for Whose
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> on the nurse, the narrator of the book (and series) but I'm
> open to other suggestions.

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[Lukas Bystricky]

Ok, I guess that makes the choice easy then. I've assigned the Eakins painting to this project. 

[Igor Dikiy]

Hi all,

I notice that the double em dashes (for obscuring a word other than its first letter, for example) are being rendered as two em dashes separated by a minute space in Apple Books on my iPhone. Is that normal?  Are there any published Standard Ebooks with a known double em dash than I can compare?

Thanks,

Igor

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[Alex Cabal]

If you are using the compatible epub, then the two-em-dash character is
replaced by two em dashes in a row, because the two-em-dash character
does not have wide font support.

> > en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/ <http://

> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/>
> > File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg>
> >
> > Or
> >
> > https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-clinic/

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> > The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/
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> > the-agnew-clinic/The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG>
> >
> >
> > Public domain proof:
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/
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> > t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=3 <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt

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> >
> > Thanks for the dust jackets link.
> >
> > Best,
> > Igor
> >
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 06:49 'Weijia Cheng' via Standard Ebooks
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> >
> > To save the manager time, can you send a link to the full
> > version of painting and the location in the book with the proof?
> >
> > Also, you might be able to use this clean version of the dust
> > jacket cover which only needs to be scaled up (there are lots of
> > good free upscalers these days): https://

> > dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg <http://
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[Igor Dikiy]

Hello all,

I've completed a read through and identified a few words that could potentially be modernized.  Any thoughts on the following, should they be changed?

- "egg-nogg" - obviously an old version of eggnog.  I can't find it in Merriam-Webster

- "unclinched"/"clinched" - seems to be an old form of clenched.  I think this variant is covered in Merriam-Webster, so I'm inclined to keep it.

- "reechoing" - should this be "re-echoing" or "reëchoing"?

Thanks,

Igor

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[Lukas Bystricky]

You can modernize eggnog and keep clenched as you said. Reecho is one of those words that looks strange to me too, but it is in MW so you can keep it as is. It's likely already been treated by modernize-spelling. 

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[Alex Cabal]

I've also noticed that `re-e` words like `re-echo` don't look great when
the hyphen is removed. I've considered removing them all from the words
file and making an exception in the manual but never had strong enough
feelings about it to actually do it. Maybe I'll do that soon.

> > <mailto:lukasby...@gmail.com

> <mailto:lukasby...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >     Ok, I guess that makes the choice easy then. I've
> assigned the
> >     Eakins painting to this project.
> >
> >     On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 7:52:37 PM UTC+2 Alex
> Cabal wrote:
> >
> >         I don't think the dust jacket matches the SE style
> >
> >         On 10/7/25 12:50 PM, Lukas Bystricky wrote:
> >          > Both artworks look good. I've submitted them to
> the DB. I
> >         guess I would
> >          > have a slight preference for the first edition
> jacket, but we
> >         should see
> >          > how the crop looks like first.
> >          >
> >          > On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 2:08:58 PM UTC+2

> > idi...@gmail.com <mailto:idi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > Thanks Weijia.
> >          >
> >          > Full artwork:
> >          > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/
> media/ <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/>

> >         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/
> media/ <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/>>
> >          > File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg <https://
> >          > en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/
> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/> <http://

> > en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/ <http://
> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agnew_Clinic#/media/>>
> >          > File%3AThe_Agnew_Clinic_-_Thomas_Eakins.jpg>
> >          >
> >          > Or
> >          >
> >          > https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-
> clinic/ <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-clinic/>

> >         <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-
> clinic/ <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-agnew-clinic/>>
> >          > The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG <https://
> dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/ <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/>

> >         items/ <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/
> <https://dn721907.ca.archive.org/0/items/>>
> >          > the-agnew-clinic/The%20Agnew%20Clinic.JPG>
> >          >
> >          >
> >          > Public domain proof:
> >          > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=gri.ark:/13960/ <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?
> id=gri.ark:/13960/>

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> id=gri.ark:/13960/ <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?

> id=gri.ark:/13960/>>
> >          > t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=3 <https://

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> >         <https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt <https://
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> >          > id=gri.ark:/13960/t6j12hm2r&view=1up&seq=75>
> >          >
> >          > Thanks for the dust jackets link.
> >          >
> >          > Best,
> >          > Igor
> >          >
> >          > Sent from Gmail Mobile
> >          >
> >          >
> >          > On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 06:49 'Weijia Cheng' via
> Standard Ebooks
> >          > <standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > To save the manager time, can you send a link to
> the full
> >          > version of painting and the location in the book
> with the proof?
> >          >
> >          > Also, you might be able to use this clean version
> of the dust
> >          > jacket cover which only needs to be scaled up
> (there are lots of
> >          > good free upscalers these days): https://
> >          > dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg

> <http://dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg> <http://

> > dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg <http://
> dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/1176.jpg>>?
> >          > auto=webp&v=1316529231 <https://

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> dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/> <https://
> > dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/ <http://

> dustjackets.cdn.bibliopolis.com/>>
> >          > pictures/1176.jpg?auto=webp&v=1316529231>
> >          > PD proof for the dust jacket: https://
> www.abebooks.com/first- <https://www.abebooks.com/first->

> >         <https://www.abebooks.com/first- <https://
> www.abebooks.com/first->>
> >          > edition/Patient-Room-18-Eberhart-M.G-
> Grosset/32248732261/bd
> >          > <https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Patient-
> Room-18- <https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Patient-Room-18->
> >         <https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Patient-
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> >          > Eberhart-M.G-Grosset/32248732261/bd>
> >          >
> >          > On Monday, October 6, 2025 at 10:49:40 PM UTC-4

> idi...@gmail.com <mailto:idi...@gmail.com>

> >          > lukasby...@gmail.com <mailto:lukasby...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > The half-title page should have the same language
> as the
> >          > rest of the book; I guess en-GB in this case.
> >          >
> >          > Interesting question about A.M. I'd be inclined to
> treat
> >          > it as normal and put it in lowercase. Maybe put
> this in
> >          > a separate commit though so it's clear and easy to
> >          > revert later if needed.
> >          >
> >          > On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 4:46:03 AM UTC+2

> >          > idi...@gmail.com <mailto:idi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > Another few questions:
> >          > - Should the half-title page be in en-GB or en-US?
> >          > - There is a use of "A.M" without an appended time,
> >          > should it still be turned into lowercase? "Sent
> >          > laundry this <abbr class="eoc">A.M.</abbr> Am
> >          > getting nervous about second watch."
> >          >
> >          > Thanks!
> >          > Igor
> >          >
> >          > On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 9:30:02 PM UTC-4 Igor
> >          > Dikiy wrote:
> >          >
> >          > Thanks, Chris.  The stars were at the top of
> >          > page while the empty space was mid-page.  So
> >          > that explains it.
> >          >
> >          > On Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 7:52:42 AM UTC-4

> >          > ch...@hapka.com <mailto:ch...@hapka.com> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > Additionally, one of the break in the
> >          > page scans is denoted by "*****,"
> >          > another just by an extra line space.
> >          > Any difference between those?
> >          >
> >          >
> >          > Are the stars at the top or bottom of a
> >          > page?  Publishers often used whitespace to
> >          > indicate a break in the middle of a page,
> >          > but stars or a line to indicate that there's
> >          > a break across a page where it might not be
> >          > obvious otherwise.
> >          >
> >          > Chris
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[David]

I know it's not the SE dictionary (MW is), but still, it's perhaps worth registering that the OED redirects "reecho" to "re-echo":

which makes sense to me, anyway..... FWIW!

[Vince Rice]

That’s likely British vs US differences—British spelling uses dashes in a number of places that US doesn’t. My Random House unabridged has reecho.

Just removing them from words isn’t enough, because if they’re already without dashes in the source, they would be left that way, and we’d have a mishmash.

I would prefer to stick with M-W personally, exceptions make it harder for both producer and reviewer. (Also, it doesn’t bother me; I thought reecho was correct before I looked it up.)

On Nov 4, 2025, at 9:37 AM, David <djre...@gmail.com> wrote:

I know it's not the SE dictionary (MW is), but still, it's perhaps worth registering that the OED redirects "reecho" to "re-echo":