Jack Brooksbank's royal ancestry

[wjhonson]

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[ravinma...@yahoo.com]

In the ancestry of Anne Amelia Keppel, the wife of Dr. Matthew Combe of Winchester, was Hannah Oglander, daughter of Sir John Oglander, Bt., also of royal descent.

https://books.google.com/books?id=zWUUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA329&dq=matthew+combe+oglander&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiisMqIyYHeAhXOq1MKHVmSDewQ6AEINzAC#v=onepage&q=matthew%20combe%20oglander&f=false

[Brad Verity]

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-7, wjhonson wrote:
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Dear Will,

The Genealogics database (I miss Leo) has much of Jack Brooksbank's ancestry, in addition to the 2nd Earl of Leicester, whose ancestry you researched and linked to above:
http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00695045&tree=LEO&parentset=0&display=standard&generations=7

One line that Genealogics is missing is a Henry VII one for Jack's Brooksbank paternal line. Here it is:

Henry VII had a dau
1) Princess Mary Tudor (1496-1533) m. 2) Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk (c.1483-1545, descended from Edward I), and had
2) Lady Eleanor Brandon (1519-1547) m. Henry Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland (c.1517-1570, descended from Edward III), and had
3) Lady Margaret Clifford (1540-1596) m. Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby (1531-1593, descended from Edward III), and had
4) Ferdinando Stanley, 5th Earl of Derby (c.1559-1594) m. Alice Spencer (1559-1637), and had
5) Lady Frances Stanley (1583-1636) m. John Egerton, 1st Earl of Bridgwater (1579-1649, descended from Edward I), and had
6) John Egerton, 2nd Earl of Bridgwater (1623-1686) m. Lady Elizabeth Cavendish (1626-1663, descended from Edward IV), and had
7) Hon. THOMAS EGERTON of Tatton Park, bap. 16 Mar. 1651 St Giles Cripplegate, London; d. 29 Oct. 1685 Ashridge House, Little Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, bur. 2 Nov. 1685 St Peter & St Paul Church, Little Gaddesden; m. 22 Jan. 1678, HESTER BUSBY (b. 7 Dec. 1661 Tyttenhanger House, Ridge, Hertfordshire; d. 7 Oct. 1724, bur. 12 Oct. 1724 St Margaret Church, Ridge), dau of Sir John Busby of Addington House (1636-1701) & Judith Mainwaring (1642-1661, descended from Edward III), and had
8) JOHN EGERTON of Tatton Park, b. 12 Feb. 1680 London, bap. 19 Feb. 1680 St Andrew Holborn; d. 9 July 1724, bur. 11 Aug. 1724 St Mary Church, Rostherne, Cheshire; m. 20 Apr. 1707 St Chad Church, Prees, Shropshire, ELIZABETH BARBOUR (bap. 19 July 1685 St Mary Church, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire; bur. 10 Feb. 1743 St Mary Church, Rostherne, Cheshire), dau of Samuel Barbour of Uttoxeter (1654-1700) & Elizabeth Hill (1657-1701), and had
9) HESTER EGERTON, b. Prees Hall, Shropshire, bap. 8 Aug. 1708 St Chad Church, Prees; d. 9 July 1780, bur. 14 July 1780 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden, Cheshire; m. 28 May 1747 Holy Trinity Church, Capesthorne, Cheshire, as his 2nd wife, WILLIAM TATTON of Wythenshawe Hall, Northenden (b. 13 June 1703 Wythenshawe Hall, bap. 25 June 1703 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; d. 28 Apr. 1776 Heaton Norris, Lancashire, bur. 2 May 1776 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden), son of William Tatton of Wythenshawe Hall (1674-1732, descended from Edward III) & Hannah Wright (1680-1733), and had
10) ELIZABETH TATTON, b. 14 Apr. 1748 Wythenshawe Hall, bap. 20 Apr. 1748 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; d. 27 July 1803 Clifton, Gloucestershire, bur. 16 Aug. 1803 All Saints Church, Roos, Yorkshire; m. 23 Oct. 1770 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden, Sir CHRISTOPHER SYKES, 2nd Baronet of Sledmere (b. 12 May 1749 Roos, Yorkshire, bap. 10 June 1749 All Saints Church, Roos; d. 17 Sept. 1801 Clifton, bur. 5 Oct. 1801 All Saints Church, Roos), son of Rev. Sir Mark Sykes, 1st Baronet of Sledmere (1711-1783) & Decima Woodham (1707-1793), and had
11) Rev. CHRISTOPHER SYKES, Rector of Roos 1819-41, b. 18 Oct. 1774 Wheldrake, Yorkshire, bap. 19 Oct. 1774 St Helen Church, Wheldrake; d. 9 Nov. 1857 Roos; bur. 16 Nov. 1857 All Saints Church, Roos; m. 14 May 1799 St Martin Church, Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire, LUCY DOROTHEA LANKFORD (b. Fence House, Hurdsfield, Cheshire, bap. 25 Mar. 1773 St Michael Church, Macclesfield; d. 17 Dec. 1828 Roos, bur. 23 Dec. 1828 All Saints Church, Roos), dau of Henry Lankford of Stockport, silk merchant (1735-1792) & Sarah Stafford (1736-1791, descended from Edward III), and had
12) PENELOPE BEATRIX SYKES, b. 31 Dec. 1809 Westow Hall, Yorkshire, bap. 3 Jan. 1810 St Mary Church, Westow; d. 9 June 1873 Onslow Square, London, bur. 14 June 1873 All Saints Church, Wighill, Yorkshire; m. 25 Nov. 1835 All Saints Church, Roos, EDWARD LASCELLES YORK of Wighill Park (b. 6 Jan. 1802 Harewood House, Yorkshire, bap. 1 Feb. 1802 All Saints Church, Harewood; d. 26 Jan. 1861 Wighill Park, bur. 1 Feb. 1861 All Saints Church, Wighill), son of Lt-Col. Richard York of Wighill Park (1778-1843) & Lady Mary Anne Lascelles (1775-1831, descended from Edward IV), and had
13) LUCY MARY YORK, b. 8 Mar. 1837 Wighill Park, bap. 11 Mar. 1837 All Saints Church, Wighill; d. 21 Feb. 1893 Healaugh Manor, Yorkshire, bur. 25 Feb. 1893 St John the Baptist Church, Healaugh; m. 16 Apr. 1857 All Saints Church, Wighill, as his 1st wife, EDWARD BROOKSBANK of Healaugh Manor (b. 22 July 1826 Tickhill, Yorkshire, bap. 20 Aug. 1826 St Mary Church, Tickhill; d. 2 Dec. 1916 Healaugh Manor, bur. 6 Dec. 1916 St John the Baptist Church, Healaugh), son of Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank, Vicar of Tickhill 1821-56 (1789-1883) & his 1st wife Hannah Heywood (1788-1846), and had
14) Sir EDWARD CLITHEROW BROOKSBANK, 1st Baronet of Healaugh Manor, b. 24 Nov. 1858 Colton Lodge, Yorkshire; d. 24 Nov. 1943 Healaugh Manor; m. 29 Mar. 1885 St John the Baptist Church, Healaugh, KATHARINE CHRISTINA ELIZABETH GRAHAM LANG (b. 15 Mar. 1863 Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland; d. 22 Apr. 1939 Healaugh Manor), dau of Hugh Morris Lang of Broadmeadows, Selkirkshire, Scotland (1817-1900) & Margaret Pattison Graham (1821-1914)**, paternal grandparents of Stamp Godfrey Brooksbank (1922-2017), husband of Celia Dorothy Coke (1919-1996), the granddaughter of the 2nd Earl of Leicester, who in turn are the paternal grandparents of Jack Brooksbank.

** Leo has Margaret Graham in his database, with no parents or ancestry, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00695049&tree=LEO
Margaret was the daughter of William Graham of Burntshields, Renfrewshire (1786-1854) & his 1st wife Katherine Swanston (d. 1836), and Margaret's ancestry can be traced through the Graham article in 'Burke's Family Records' (1897), pp. 267-271. With a quick glance, I don't immediately notice any Edward I lines, but further research may unveil some.
https://archive.org/details/familyrecords01burk/page/n555

Other yet-to-be-researched lines of Jack Brooksbank's ancestry from the Genealogies database should reveal further royal descents. For example, Leo has Thomas Charlton Meyrick, an ancestor of Jack's mother Nicola Newton, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00695060&tree=LEO
Per a March 2018 post (#62) to the The Royal Forums, Sir Thomas Charlton (later Meyrick), 1st Baronet, descends not only from Charles II, but from the Calvert Lords Baltimore, and so from Lady Mary Carey, the Other Boleyn Girl:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f113/jack-brooksbank-family-and-background-44266-4.html
I haven't had time to verify the line of descent, but hope to soon.

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 12:00:05 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> In the ancestry of Anne Amelia Keppel, the wife of Dr. Matthew Combe of Winchester, was Hannah Oglander, daughter of Sir John Oglander, Bt., also of royal descent.

Susanna Oglander (b. 1678; d. Chernocke House, St Thomas Street, Winchester, bur. 17 July 1758 Winchester Cathedral), wife of Dr. Matthew Combe of Winchester (b. 20 Nov. 1662; d. 23 Feb. 1749, bur. 1 Mar. 1749 Winchester Cathedral), has several lines of descent from Edward I. Here's one from John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk:

1) John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk (d. 1485, descended from Edward I) had
2) Lady Isabel Howard (c.1445-1506) m. Sir Robert Mortimer (1442-1485), and had
3) Elizabeth Mortimer (b. 1476) m. George Guildford, and had
4) Mary Guildford m. Sir Owen West (c.1503-1551, descended from Edward I), and had
5) Mary West m. 1) Sir Adrian Poynings (c.1512-1571, descended from Edward I), and had
6) Anne Poynings (d. 1590) m. Sir George More (1553-1632), and had
7) Frances More (1590-1644) m. Sir John Oglander (1585-1655), and had
8) Sir William Oglander, 1st Baronet (1611-1670) m. Dorothy Clerke (d. 1702), and had
9) Sir John Oglander, 2nd Baronet (c.1642-1683) m. Mary Webb (d. 1689), and had
10) Susanna Oglander (1678-1758) m. Dr. Matthew Combe

Cheers, -----Brad

[Matthew Connolly]

I see that Jack Brooksbank has a descent from the Baker-Cresswell family, a line I’m very familiar with. Through a Gordon-Cumming marriage there are five descents from Henry VII via James V of Scots; by my last count, there are some 320 paths from Edward III down to Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell, great-great-grandmother of Jack Brooksbank.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 12:39:00 PM UTC-5, Brad Verity wrote:
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-7, wjhonson wrote:
> > https://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=wjhonson&id=I255752&style=TEXT

>

> Other yet-to-be-researched lines of Jack Brooksbank's ancestry from the Genealogies database should reveal further royal descents. For example, Leo has Thomas Charlton Meyrick, an ancestor of Jack's mother Nicola Newton, here:
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00695060&tree=LEO
> Per a March 2018 post (#62) to the The Royal Forums, Sir Thomas Charlton (later Meyrick), 1st Baronet, descends not only from Charles II, but from the Calvert Lords Baltimore, and so from Lady Mary Carey, the Other Boleyn Girl:
> http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f113/jack-brooksbank-family-and-background-44266-4.html
> I haven't had time to verify the line of descent, but hope to soon.

Hi Brad,

I'm passing along some of the sources I used when researching Jack's descent from Charles II via the Meyrick-Willis-Calvert families.

1) Charles II & Barbara Villiers
2) Lady Charlotte Fitzroy (1664-1718) m. Sir Edward Lee, 1st Earl of Lichfield
3) Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1723) m. (1) Benedict Leonard Calvert, 4th Baron Baltimore
4) Jane Calvert (1702-1778) m. 1720 Col. John Hyde

SOURCES:

Marriage allegation, John Hyde (parish of St. Paul Covent Garden, age about 24 years) and Jane Calvert (St. Peter Westminster, age about 17 years, with consent of her brother the Rt. Honble. Charles Lord Baltimore), 2 June 1720; "London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921," digital image, Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

Marriage record, John Hyde (parish of St. Paul Covent Garden) and Jane Calvert (parish of St. Margaret Westminster), 9 June 1720, St. Paul's Cathedral, London; digital image, "London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812," Ancestry < wwww.ancestry.com >.

Death notice, Hon. Jane Hyde, Drewry’s Derby Mercury, July 17-24, 1778, p. 1, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Identifies her as (1) daughter of Benedict, Lord Baltimore by Lady Charlotte Lee, daughter of the Earl of Lichfield (2) wife of John Hyde, and (3) mother of the wife of Rev. Thomas Willis, Rector of Blecheley, Bucks.

Will, Jane Hyde (dated 22 December 1777, proved 22 July 1778), PROB 11/1044; digital image, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. Among other relatives she named her daughter Catherine Willis, wife of Reverend Thomas Willis of Blethley, whom she appointed executrix. Catherine died intestate 1823 and her son John Willis Fleming succeeded her as executor.

Augusta Hall, ed., Autobiography and Correspondence of Mary Granville, Mrs. Delany, vol. 1, Cambridge UP, 2011; digital images, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=dq5Gck71zBwC&pg=PA248 >. See p. 248 for Jane (Calvert) Hyde’s M.I. inscription in Westminster Abbey: “The Hon. Jane Hyde, daughter of Benedict, Lord Baltimore, by Charlotte, daughter of the Earl of Lichfield, and relict of John Hyde, of Kingston-Lysle, in Berkshire. Died the 15th of July, 1778, aged 74.”

5) Catherine Hyde (1745-1823) m. 1774 Rev. Thomas Willis

SOURCES:

Baptismal record, Catherine Hyde (born & baptized 23 December 1745, St. James, Westminster, daughter of John & Jane), “England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,” Familysearch < www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NDW7-PZZ >.

Marriage record, Rev. Thomas Willis and Catharine Hyde, 3 November 1774, St. Anne and St. Agnes Aldersgate; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

Death notice, Catherine Willis, The Morning Post, April 26, 1823, p. 4] col. 1; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Identifies her as Mrs. Catherine Willis, of Bletchley, Bucks, mother of John Fleming, Esq., of Stoneham Park, M. P. for Hants.

Howard Spencer and Philip Salmon,“Fleming, John II (1781-1844), of North Stoneham, Hants.,” The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1820-1832, ed. D.R. Fisher, Cambridge UP, 2009 <
www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1820-1832/member/fleming-john-ii-1781-1844 >. Fleming was the son of Rev. Thomas and Catherine (Hyde) Willis and the brother of Jane Caroline (Willis) Meyrick.

6) Jane Caroline Willis (1777-1802) m. 1796 Thomas Meyrick

Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland, 5th ed., vol. 1, 1875; digital images, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=ZNEKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA443 >. See p. 443 (Fleming of Stoneham) which states Jane, daughter of Thomas Willis and Catherine Hyde married Thomas Meyrick, Esq., of Bush.

Baptismal record, Jane Caroline Willis (25 April 1777, Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, daughter of Thomas & Cathare.); “"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,” FamilySearch < familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7M7-WQS >.

Marriage allegation, Thomas Meyrick (parish of St. Michael, Bath) and Jane Caroline Willis (parish of Walcot, co. Somerset, minor, with consent of mother & guardian Catherine Willis), 8 July 1796; digital images, “Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914,” Ancestry < www. ancestry.com >.

Marriage record, Thomas Meyrick and Jane Caroline Willis, 11 July 1796, St. Swithin, Walcot, Somerset, St. Swithin, Walcot, Somerset; digital image, “Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914,” Ancestry < www. ancestry.com >.

7) Jane Sophia Meyrick (1801-1837) m. 1820 St. John Chiverton Charlton

SOURCES:

Baptismal record, Jane Sophia Meyrick (born 4 October and bap. 4 November 1801, St. George Hanover Square, Westminster, daughter of Thomas Esqr. and Jane Caroline Meyrick); digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

Marriage notice, St. John Chiverton Charlton and Jane Sophia Merrick [sic], The Hampshire Chronicle and Courier, September 11, 1820, p. 4, col. 3; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Identifies her as “the only daughter and heiress of Thomas Merrick, Esq. of Bush Hall, Pembrokeshire, and niece of John Fleming, Esq., M. P. for this county.”

Death notice, Jane Sophia Charlton, The Staffordshire Advertiser, April 1, 1837, p. 3, col. 7; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >

8) Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton) (1837-1921), 1st Baronet K.C.B., m. 1860 Mary Rhoda Hill

9) Brig. Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick (1862-1932), 2nd Baronet C.B., m. 1897 Mary Emma Baker Cresswell O.B.E

10) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972) m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton

11) Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006) m. 1949 Joanna Katherine Holland

12) Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953) m. 1985 George Edward Hugh Brooksbank

13) Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)

Thomas Meyrick also had a royal descent. I'll try to post it tomorrow.

Gawin

[John Higgins]

I'll be looking forward to your post on Thomas Meyrick. I can see royal descents behind Meyricks a couple of generations in front of Thomas Meyrick, but I haven't been able to identify the last couple of generations before Thomas. Meyrick of Bush is a hard family to trace...

[Brad Verity]

On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 7:02:53 PM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Brad,
> I'm passing along some of the sources I used when researching Jack's descent from Charles II via the Meyrick-Willis-Calvert families.
>
> 1) Charles II & Barbara Villiers
> 2) Lady Charlotte Fitzroy (1664-1718) m. Sir Edward Lee, 1st Earl of Lichfield
> 3) Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1723) m. (1) Benedict Leonard Calvert, 4th Baron Baltimore
> 4) Jane Calvert (1702-1778) m. 1720 Col. John Hyde

> 5) Catherine Hyde (1745-1823) m. 1774 Rev. Thomas Willis

> 6) Jane Caroline Willis (1777-1802) m. 1796 Thomas Meyrick

> 7) Jane Sophia Meyrick (1801-1837) m. 1820 St. John Chiverton Charlton

> 8) Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton) (1837-1921), 1st Baronet K.C.B., m. 1860 Mary Rhoda Hill
> 9) Brig. Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick (1862-1932), 2nd Baronet C.B., m. 1897 Mary Emma Baker Cresswell O.B.E
> 10) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972) m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton
> 11) Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006) m. 1949 Joanna Katherine Holland
> 12) Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953) m. 1985 George Edward Hugh Brooksbank
> 13) Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)
>
> Thomas Meyrick also had a royal descent. I'll try to post it tomorrow.

Dear Gawin,

Your detailed sources on Generations 4 to 7 above are much appreciated. What a wonderful line to have worked out. The 'Calvert-Baron Baltimore' article in 'Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerages' states only that the 4th Lord Baltimore's younger daughter was "Jane, m. -- Hyde, of Bucks, and d. July, 1778." The Meyrick article in the most recent 'Burke's Peerage' (2003) states only that, "THOMAS MEYRICK, of Bush, had an only dau: JANE SOPHIA Meyrick; m 7 Sept 1820 St John Chiverton CHARLTON, of Apley Castle."

That you were able to fill in the details and compile the information on the intervening generations, using primary sources and without an already existing pedigree - I'm impressed with your research!

I'll second John Higgins's comment - I'm looking forward to your post on the ancestry for Thomas Meyrick of Bush Hall. As you are no doubt already aware, the 'Burke's Peerage' Meyrick article is of no real use on this line.

Thanks again for sharing your research.

Cheers, ----Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Brad,

Thank you for your kind words. I would like to take credit for discovering this line but I can't. The Wikipedia entry for Jane Caroline (Willis) Meyrick's brother John Willis Fleming states he was a great-grandson of Benedict Calvert 4th Baron Baltimore and Charlotte Lee. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Willis_Fleming

So all I had to do was find primary sources proving the relationship.

Now for Thomas Meyrick's royal descent from Edward III. Rather than post the many different lines, I'm only posting his descent from Walter Devereux 1st Earl of Essex & Lettice Knollys, as their royal lines are already well-known and documented. Lines 1-6 are taken from Ruvigny's The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, Isabel of Essex Volume, pp. 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), 104, and finally 105 (for Lucy Edwardes and her marriage to Essex Meyrick).

1) Walter Devereux 1st Earl of Essex K.G. (1541-1576) m. Lettice Knollys
2) Lady Penelope Devereux (d. 1607) m. (1) Robert Rich 1st Earl of Warwick
3) Henry Rich 1st Earl of Holland K. B. (1590-1649) m. Isabel Cope
4) Robert Rich 5th Earl of Warwick & 2nd Earl of Holland (c1620-1675) m. (2) Lady Anne Montague (#5 below)
5) Lady Elizabeth Rich (d. 1725) m. Francis Edwardes of Haverfordwest, M. P.
6) Lucy Edwardes (d. 1760) m. Essex Meyrick, of Bush, Pembrokeshire (continued below)

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2) Lady Penelope Devereux (d. 1607) m. (1) Robert Rich 1st Earl of Warwick
3) Robert Rich 2nd Earl of Warwick K. B. (1587-1658) m. 1605 Frances Hatton
4) Lady Anne Rich (d. 1641) m. Edward Montague 2nd Earl of Manchester
5) Lady Anne Montague (d. 1689) m. Robert Rich 5th Earl of Warwick (#4 above)

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6) Lucy Edwardes (d. 1760) m. 1732 Essex Marychurch Meyrick, of Bush, Pembrokeshire

SOURCES:

Marriage record, Essex Marychurch Meyricke (parish of St. Mary, Pembroke) and Mrs. Luce Edwardes (of this parish), 24 November 1732, St. Mary, Haverfordwest; digital image, “Pembrokeshire Marriages And Banns,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

Marriage notice, Essex Meyricke and Miss Edwards, Howgrave’s Stamford Mercury, November 30, 1732, p. 2, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “We hear that a Marriage is on Foot and will soon be consumated between Essex Meyricke, Esq; son of John Meyricke, of Bush in the County of Pembroke, Esq; and Miss Edwards, only Sister of Edward Henry Edwards, of Holland-House, Esq; a young lady of great Merit and Fortune.”

Death notice, Mrs. Meyrick, The Whitehall Evening-Post; or, London Intelligencer, July 19, 1760, p. 2, col. 1; digital image, NewspaperARCHIVE < www.newspaperarchive.com >. “The 13th Instant died Mrs. Meyrick, Lady of Essex Meyrick, Esq; at the Family Seat in Pembrokeshire. She was the Daughter of Francis Edwards, Esq; of Haverford-West, who died Member for that Town.”

Burial record, Mrs. Meyrick, 15 July 1760, St. Nicholas [Monkton], Pembrokeshire; digital image, “Pembrokeshire Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “Mrs. Meyrick (a Worthy Lady) was buryd.”

7) John Francis Meyrick, of Bush (c1736-1823) m. 1769 Jane Mount

Apparently named for his grandfathers John Meyrick and Francis Edwardes.

SOURCES:

Will, Essex Marychurch Meyricke of Bush, co. Pembroke, Esquire (dated 6 February & proved 3 December 1762), PROB 11/882; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names his three children by his “late wife” including his “eldest son” John Francis Meyricke (appointed executor) and also left a legacy to his brother-in-law William Edwardes.

Joseph Foster, Alumni Oxonienses: The Members of the University of Oxford, 1715-1886 (1891), p. 949; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/stream/alumnioxoniense01oxfogoog#page/n170/mode/2up >. “Meyricke, John, s. Essex, of St. Mar, co. Pembroke, arm. NEW COLL., matric. 11 Feb., 1754.”

Marriage record, John Francis Meyrick (parish of St. Mary, county of Pembroke) and Jane Mount (of this parish), 5 September 1769, St. Martin, Epsom, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

Marriage notice, John Meyrick and Miss Mount, The London Chronicle, September 2-5, 1769, p.7, col. 1; digital image, NewspaperARCHIVE < www.newspaperarchive.com >. “Yesterday was married, John Meyrick, Esq; of Bush, in Pembrokeshire, to Miss Mount, daughter of Mr. Mount, wholesale Stationer, on Tower-Hill.”

Burial record, John Francis Meyrick (abode Cheltenham, age 87 yrs.), 12 June 1823, Cheltenham, co. Gloucester; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1988,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

“Monumental Inscriptions in the Parish Church, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire,” Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, Vol. 2, New Series, 1877, p. 415; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=Dkzma4LvHMQC&pg=PA415 >. His son Thomas’s M.I. includes the following statement: “He was the only surviving son / of the late John F. Meyrick, Esqr, / who was also / buried in this church.”

Death notice, Thomas [sic] Meyrick, The Bristol Mirror, June 14, 1823, p. 3, col. 5; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “June 8, aged 90, Thomas Meyrick, Esq. for many years a resident in Cheltenham.”

8) Thomas Meyrick, of Bush (c1773-1837) m. 1796 Jane Charlotte Willis

SOURCES:

Marriage allegation, Thomas Meyrick (parish of St. Michael, Bath) and Jane Caroline Willis (parish of Walcot, co. Somerset, minor, with consent of mother & guardian Catherine Willis), 8 July 1796; digital images, “Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914,” Ancestry < www. ancestry.com >.

Marriage record, Thomas Meyrick and Jane Caroline Willis, 11 July 1796, St. Swithin, Walcot, Somerset; digital image, “Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914,” Ancestry < www. ancestry.com >.
Death notice, Thomas Meyrick, The Courier [London], October 3, 1837, p. 4, col. 5; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On the 29th ult., at Cheltenham, aged 64, Thomas Meyrick, Esq, of Bush, Pembrokeshire.”

Burial record, Thomas Meyrick (abode Cheltn, age 74 yrs.), 7 October 1837, Cheltenham, co. Gloucester; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1988,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

“Monumental Inscriptions in the Parish Church, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire,” Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, Vol. 2, New Series, 1877, p. 415; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=Dkzma4LvHMQC&pg=PA415 >. His son M. I. states: “Near this spot / lie the remains of the late / Thomas Meyrick, Esqr, / of Bush / in the County of Pembroke. / He departed this life at Cheltenham / on the 29th day of Sepr, 1837, / in the / sixty-fourth year / of his age. / He was the only surviving son / of the late John F. Meyrick, Esqr, / who was also / buried in this church.”

Will, Thomas Meyrick of Bush, co. Pembroke, Esquire (dated 7 May 1837, codicil 28 September, proved 20 November 1837), PROB 11/1886; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

For a complete account of the Meyricks see Michael McGarvie's 132-page book, The Meyricks of Bush: The Story of a Pembrokeshire Family (1988), written with the cooperation of the Meyrick family who placed their family papers at Mr. McGarvie's disposal.

As Matthew Connolly noted in an earlier post, Mary Emma Baker Cresswell, wife of the 2nd Meyrick Baronet, had several royal lines. So did Mary Rhoda Hill, wife of the 1st Baronet, St. John Chiverton Charlton (husband of Jane Sophia Meyrick), and Jack Brooksbank's great-grandfather Giles Newton, husband of Mary Cicely Meyrick. I'll try to post the Newton lines next week.

Take care!
Gawin

[John Higgins]

Gawin, thanks for this very useful information on the Meyrick family. I had seen a mention of a marriage between Lucy Edwardes and Essex Meyrick, but I hadn't been able to connect him to the earlier Meyricks. I assume that Essex Marychurch Meyrick (d. 1762) was the man of the same name who was sheriff of Pembrokeshire in 1754. And I'm also assuming, but haven't yet firmly established, that Essex was the son of the John Meyrick who was MP for Pembrokeshire and later Cardiganshire. Among other evidence, the middle name Marychurch seems to indicate this because the wife of the MP John Meyrick was the daughter of a woman whose surname was St. Marychurch.
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1690-1715/member/meyrick-john-1673-1735

If this parentage for Essex Marychurch Meyrick is correct, there are almost certainly royal lines behind him. I believe I've found a line to King John via his [proposed] mother, and I suspect there are other lines as well. I'm still digging...

Thanks also for the information on Michael McGarvie's book on the Meyricks of Bush. It's a hard book to find - only one US library has a copy, and only a handful in the UK. But I may be able to get a copy via inter-library loan.

I'll be looking forward to your subsequent posts. I was aware of the royal descents behind Mary Rhoda Hill and Giles Newton, but I haven't had a chance yet to look into the Baker-Cresswell ancestry.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Yes, you are correct. Essex Meyrick was sheriff of Pembrokeshire in 1754. His son John Francis was sheriff in 1765. And you are also correct in assuming that Essex was the son of John Meyrick M.P and his wife Mary the daughter and coheir of John Williams of Norchard by his first wife Mary Marychurch. McGarvie calls her “the heir of the Marychurchs of Norchard in the parish of Manobier, an ancient family which had been connected with Tenby and Scotsborough since the 15th century (pp. 36-37).

Here is the complete Meyrick line down to Essex Marychurch Meyrick, as provided by McGarvie:

1) Einion Sais, sixth in descent from Cadafael Ynfyd, Lord of Cydewain, Montgomeryshire (now in Powys) in the 13th century. Einion m. Eva , dau. & heir of Meredydd ap Cadwgna, lord of Bodorgan.

2) Heylin ap Einion Sais (alive 1465), m. Angharad, dau. of William ap Evan (per pedigree chart between pp. 84-85) or Gwilynn ap Grufydd ap Daffyd, descendent of Owen Gwynedd, Prince of North Wales (p. 9).

3) Meruig ap Llewellyn, Yeoman of the Guard (d. c1537), m. Margaret, dau. of Rowland ap Howell of Carreg Ceiliog, Rector of Aberffraw.

4) Rowland Meyrick, Bishop of Bangor (c1505-1566), m. 1554 Katherine Barret (d. 1598), daughter of Owen Barret of Gelliswick & Hasguard, Pembrokeshire.

5) Sir Francis Meyrick, of Fleet (d. 1603), m. Anne Laugharne (living 1625), daughter of Francis Laugharne of St. Brides, Esquire, and Ienett Phillips, his wife.

6) Sir John Meyrick, of Monkton (d. 1655), m. (1) Alice Fitton, daughter of Sir Edward Fitton of Gawsworth, Cheshire; m. (2) Jane Meredith (d. 1660), widow of Sir Peter Wyche Ambassador to the Sultan of Turkey, daughter of William Meredith of Wrexham, Denbighshire.

7) [by Alice Fitton] Essex Meyrick, established the Meyrick family at Bush (d. 1712), m. before 1670/1 Jane (or Elizabeth) Corbet, daughter of Robert Corbet of Ynesymaengwyn, Merionethsire.

8) John Meyrick, M. P. (c1674-1733), m. Mary Williams,daughter and coheir of John Williams of Norchard by his first wife Mary Marychurch.

9) Essex Marychurch Meyrick (c1705-1762), m. 1732 Lucy Edwardes (d. 1760)

[Olivier]

> Yes, you are correct. Essex Meyrick was sheriff of Pembrokeshire in 1754. His son John Francis was sheriff in 1765. And you are also correct in assuming that Essex was the son of John Meyrick M.P and his wife Mary the daughter and coheir of John Williams of Norchard by his first wife Mary Marychurch. McGarvie calls her “the heir of the Marychurchs of Norchard in the parish of Manobier, an ancient family which had been connected with Tenby and Scotsborough since the 15th century (pp. 36-37).
>
> Here is the complete Meyrick line down to Essex Marychurch Meyrick, as provided by McGarvie:
>
> 1) Einion Sais, sixth in descent from Cadafael Ynfyd, Lord of Cydewain, Montgomeryshire (now in Powys) in the 13th century. Einion m. Eva , dau. & heir of Meredydd ap Cadwgna, lord of Bodorgan.
>
> 2) Heylin ap Einion Sais (alive 1465), m. Angharad, dau. of William ap Evan (per pedigree chart between pp. 84-85) or Gwilynn ap Grufydd ap Daffyd, descendent of Owen Gwynedd, Prince of North Wales (p. 9).
>
> 3) Meruig ap Llewellyn, Yeoman of the Guard (d. c1537), m. Margaret, dau. of Rowland ap Howell of Carreg Ceiliog, Rector of Aberffraw.
>
> 4) Rowland Meyrick, Bishop of Bangor (c1505-1566), m. 1554 Katherine Barret (d. 1598), daughter of Owen Barret of Gelliswick & Hasguard, Pembrokeshire.
>
> 5) Sir Francis Meyrick, of Fleet (d. 1603), m. Anne Laugharne (living 1625), daughter of Francis Laugharne of St. Brides, Esquire, and Ienett Phillips, his wife.
>
> 6) Sir John Meyrick, of Monkton (d. 1655), m. (1) Alice Fitton, daughter of Sir Edward Fitton of Gawsworth, Cheshire; m. (2) Jane Meredith (d. 1660), widow of Sir Peter Wyche Ambassador to the Sultan of Turkey, daughter of William Meredith of Wrexham, Denbighshire.
>
> 7) [by Alice Fitton] Essex Meyrick, established the Meyrick family at Bush (d. 1712), m. before 1670/1 Jane (or Elizabeth) Corbet, daughter of Robert Corbet of Ynesymaengwyn, Merionethsire.
>
> 8) John Meyrick, M. P. (c1674-1733), m. Mary Williams,daughter and coheir of John Williams of Norchard by his first wife Mary Marychurch.
>
> 9) Essex Marychurch Meyrick (c1705-1762), m. 1732 Lucy Edwardes (d. 1760)

Essex Marychurch Meyrick †1762

Génération 2

2 - John Meyrick †1733

Génération 3

4 - Essex Meyrick †1712

Génération 4

9 - Alice Fitton

Génération 5

18 - Edward Fitton, baron of Gawsworth 1572-1619

Génération 6

36 - Edward Fitton 1548-1606

Génération 7

72 - Edward Fitton 1527-1579

Génération 8

145 - Mary Harbottle 1507-1556

Génération 9

290 - Guiscard Harbottle 1485-1513

Génération 10

581 - Margaret Percy

Génération 11

1 162 - Ralph Percy 1425-1460

Génération 12

2 324 - Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland 1393-1455
2 325 - Eleanor Nevill 1403-1472

Génération 13

4 649 - Elizabeth Mortimer 1371-1417
4 651 - Joan Beaufort ca 1379-1440

Génération 14

9 299 - Philippa Plantagenêt 1355-1382
9 302 - John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 1340-1399

Génération 15

18 598 - Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence 1338-1368
18 604 - Edward III of Windsor, King of England 1312-1377

[John Higgins]

Yes, this agrees entirely with what I have as the Meyrick line of descent. Thank you!

[Brad Verity]

On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 10:11:30 AM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is the complete Meyrick line down to Essex Marychurch Meyrick, as provided by McGarvie:

Thank you, Gawin, for sharing all of the research you've done on the Meyrick of Bush Hall line - it's of great use.

It confirms that both of Jack Brooksbank's parents descends from Charles II. And thus three of his grandparents descend from Henry VII - rather interesting considering that only one of Jack's great-grandparents was titled. The fourth grandparent - his maternal grandmother Johanna (nee Holland) Newton - the one who has lived to see him marry a princess - have you researched her ancestry at all? The Genealogics database has her four grandparents, plus the parentage of three of them, but hasn't traced her ancestry back any further.

Thanks again, and Cheers, -----Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

According to a secondary source Joanna (Holland) Newton descends from Edward III but I've not sat down to confirm it.

Her father-in-law Giles Newton (Jack's great-grandfather) also descended from Edward III, through both parents (William Newton & Violet Harrison). His father's line was published in The Plantagenent Roll but I worked out his mother's line on my own.

I'll try to post these additional lines next week.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

FYI - I took a closer look at my copy of Michael McGarvie's book. Not only did he have the family's cooperation, he's also a member of the family as his wife Penelope is the daughter of Sir Thomas Frederick Meyrick 3rd Baronet.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here’s an Edward III line for Jack Brooksbank’s maternal grandmother Joanna (Holland) Newton. Pulling it all together was a lot easier once I discovered Brad Verity had already posted the early generations on 5/25/07. Brad’s post covered the royal ancestry of Thomas Adams (1655-1722), Recorder of York, who just happened to be the brother of Mrs. Newton’s ancestor Elizabeth Adams, wife of Thomas Dawnay.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/%22thomas$20adams%22%7Csort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/O01OKL2HmcI/5rP8feQli2EJ

Rather than repeat Brad’s post, I’ll begin with Thomas Dawnay who was his wife’s 2nd cousin once removed and shared some of her royal lines. Most of my sources are secondary but I kept to the reliable ones.

1) Sir John Dawnay of Sessay, co. York, m. Elizabeth Tunstall (see A6 in Brad Verity’s post).

2) Marmaduke Dawnay of Sutton Coldfield, co. Warwickshire (d. 1629), m. Anne, widow of Simon Perrot of Sutton Coldfield & dau of William Gardner of Bermondsey (d. 1639)

SOURCES

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
see p. 21: Burial records for Marmaduke Dawnay & Mrs. Anne Dawnay)
p. 43: Inventory, Marmaduke Dawnay
p. 44: Will, Ann Dawnay, also note 1

3) Thomas Dawnay of London & Sutton Coldfield (c1601-1671) m. 1628 Catherine Le Gouch

SOURCES

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
see p. 21: Marriage record, Thos. Dawnay & Cath. Legouch marriage
p. 22: Burial record, Thomas Dawnay (the elder)
p. 44: Admon, Thomas Dawnay, the elder, also note 4

4) Thomas Dawnay of Selby & Sutton Coldfield (d. 1683), m. Elizabeth Adams (d. 1718), sister of Thomas Adams, Recorder of York (see A10 in Brad Verity’s post)

SOURCES

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
see p. 44: Admon, Thomas Dawnay, the elder, also note 2
p.46: Will, Elizabeth Dawnay, 1718

5) Faith Dawnay (1676-1713), m. 1698, Peter Hall, of Leventhorpe, co. York (d. 1707/8)

SOURCES

J. W. Clay, ed. Dugdale’s Visitation of Yorkshire, with Additions, Part 3 (1894), p. 211; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=6KFCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA211 >.

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
see p. 16: Baptismal record, Faith Dawnay
p. 17: Marriage record, Peter Hall & Faith Dawnay
p. 17: Burial record, Peter Hall

6) Margaret Hall (1704/5-1794), m. 1726 Rev. Vyner Snell B. D. rector of Doddington-cum-March, Isle of Ely (1682-1751)

SOURCES

J. W. Clay, ed. Dugdale’s Visitation of Yorkshire, with Additions, Part 3 (1894), p. 211; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=6KFCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA211 >.

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
see p. 16: Baptismal records, Margaret Hall & Vyner Snell
p. 17: Marriage record, Rev. Vyner Snell & Margaret Hall
p. 18: Burial records, Rev. Vyner Snell & Margaret Snell
p. 19: M.I., Vyner Snell & Margaret Snell
pp. 47-48, Will, Vyner Snell
p. 49, Will, Margaret Snel

7) Rebecca Snell (1738-1812), m. 1768 John Paris of Walthamstow afterwards of Wanstead, co. Essex (1730-1798)

SOURCES

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Vol. 2, 1894; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl02howa/page/64 >
See the Paris family pedigree on pp. 65-67

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
See p. 16: Baptismal record, Rebecca Snell & marriage record for John Paris & Rebecca Snell
p. 18: Burial records, John Paris & Rebecca Paris
pp. 18-19: M.I. John Paris & Rebecca Paris
p. 49: Will, John Paris
pp. 49-50: Will, Rebecca Parish

8) Elizabeth Paris (1775-1814), m. 1798 Francis James Houssemayne Du Boulay of Walthamstow (1759-1828)

SOURCES

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Vol. 2, 1894; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl02howa/page/64 >
See the Paris family pedigree, p. 66

Joseph Jackson Howard and Frederick Arthur Crisp, eds. Visitation of England and Wales, Notes, Vol. 1, 1896; digital images, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofengl22howa >.
See p.. 19: M.I. Mrs. Elizabeth Du Boulay & Francis Du Boulay; baptismal record for Elizabeth Paris; burial records for Mrs. Elizabeth Du Boulay & Francis Houssemayne Du Boulay.

Will, Francis Houssemayne Du Boulay of Walthamstow, co. Essex, Esquire (dated 23 October 1827, codicil 13 November 1827, proved 15 November 1828); digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names his children including his son Thomas [#9 below].

9) Thomas Houssemayne du Boulay of Sandgate, Kent, J. P. (1804-1872), m. 1829 Harriet Ann Drake Brockman (1805-1877)

SOURCES

Baptismal record, Thomas Du Boulay, 24 March 1804, St. Mary’s, Walthamstow, Essex (born 15 February 1804, son of Francis Houssemayne Du Boulay & Elizabeth) ; “"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," FamilySearch < familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTD2-TZ4 >.

Death notice, Thomas du Boulay, Wilts and Glo’stershire Standard and Cirencester and Swindon Express, June 22, 1872, p. 8, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

Marriage notice, Thomas Boulay & Harriet Brockman,The Courier (London), June 3, 1829, p. 4, col. 4; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

10) Col. Woodforde George Du Boulay (1848-1923), m. 1879 Rose Hawkins (1859-1932)

SOURCES

Baptismal record, Woodforde George du Boulay, 1 February 1848, St. Martin, Cheriton, Kent (son of Thomas & Harriet); “Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

“Marriage of Miss Rose Hawkins,” The Colchester Gazette, September 24, 1879, p. 3, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com>.

Obituary, Col. Woodforde George Du Boulay, Cheltenham Chronicle and Gloucestershire Graphic, September 8, 1923, p. 2, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. States he was the son of Thomas Du Boulay, J. P., of Sandgate.

“Funeral of Colonel Du Boulay,” Cheltenham Chronicle and Gloucestershire Graphic, September 15, 1923, p. 2, col. 4; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. States his daughter Mrs. G. Holland [# 11 below] was among the mourners.

11) Violet Houssemayne Du Boulay (1892-1979), m. 1919 Godfrey Holland (1872-1966)

SOURCES

Baptismal record, Violet Houssemayne Du Boulay, 22 April 1892, St. Francis, Simon’s Town, South Africa (born 23 March 1892, daughter of Woodfride George & Rose Du Boulay); “South Africa, Birth and Baptism Records, 1700s-1900s,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com>.

Marriage record, Godfrey Holland & Violet Houssemayne Du Boulay, 11 December 1919, All Saints Church, Cheltenham; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. States Violet was the daughter of Woodford George Du Boulay, Col. R. E.

“Two Cheltenham Weddings,” The Cheltenham and County Looker-On, December 20, 1919, p. 19 (with photograph of the bridal party); digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

Death notice, Violet Holland (nee Houssemayne Du Boulay), The Times (London), December 27, 1979, p. 18, col. 2; digital image, The Times Digital Archive < www.gale.com/c/the-times-digital-archive >. States she was the widow of Godfrey and the mother of Patricia, Christopher, and Joanna.

12) Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926), m. 1949 Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006)

SOURCES

Birth notices [daughter to Violet (nee Du Boulay), wife of Godfrey Holland], The Times (London), April 19, 1926, p. 1, col. 1; digital image, The Times Digital Archive < www.gale.com/c/the-times-digital-archive >.

“Former Sheriff’s Son Weds,” West Sussex County Times (Horsham), December 2, 1949, p. 1, col. 8; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. States she was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Godfrey Holland of Plummers Plain House, near Horsham.

[Brad Verity]

On Friday, October 19, 2018 at 10:02:31 PM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here’s an Edward III line for Jack Brooksbank’s maternal grandmother Joanna (Holland) Newton. Pulling it all together was a lot easier once I discovered Brad Verity had already posted the early generations on 5/25/07. Brad’s post covered the royal ancestry of Thomas Adams (1655-1722), Recorder of York, who just happened to be the brother of Mrs. Newton’s ancestor Elizabeth Adams, wife of Thomas Dawnay.

[snip]

Gavin, this is great - thank you very much for sharing this line. I'm glad that my post helped you with it. So now, all four of Jack Brooksbank's grandparents have lines of descent from Edward III. I'm going to be very busy over the next week or so, entering into my database all of these lines of descent that you've shared!

If you still have time to post the paternal & maternal (Harrison) lines of descent for Giles Newton that you've worked out, I would appreciate seeing them.

Thanks again, and Cheers, ----Brad

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

Mary Rhoda (Hill) Meyrick's paternal grandparents are listed in Leo's Genealogics database. Her father was Col. Richard Frederick Hill, of Prees Hall, Salop, born Jan. 14, 1804, Hadnall, Salop, married Maria Jane Bringhurst,
April 3, 1835, died Jan. 9, 1890, (Burke's Peerage, Hill, V)

Richard Frederick Hill's sister Rachel Stephens (Hill) Corbet is listed in the Genealogics link below. Two great-grandparents, Sir Rowland Hill, of Hawkstone, 1st Bt. and Jane Broughton are traced further.

http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00221407&tree=LEO

[Olivier]

Mary Rhoda Hill †1924

Génération 2

2 - Richard Frederick Hill 1804-1890

Génération 3

4 - John Hill 1769-1814

Génération 4

8 - John Hill, Baronet Hill 1740-1833

Génération 5

17 - Jane Broughton †1746/

Génération 6

34 - Bryan Broughton, baronet Broughton 1677-1724
35 - Elizabeth Delves 1670-1746

Génération 7

68 - Thomas Broughton †1710
69 - Rhoda Amcotts 1653-1692
71 - Jane Knightley †1692

Génération 8

137 - Bridget Lucy 1620-1692
138 - John Amcotts 1630-1655
142 - Richard Knightley †1661

Génération 9

275 - Alice Spencer 1597-1648
276 - William Amcotts †1639
285 - Jane Littleton 1584-1657

Génération 10

551 - Mary Cheke 1575
553 - Jane Fulnetby †1628
571 - Margaret Devereux †1625

Génération 11

1 103 - Frances Ratcliffe 1545
1 107 - Margaret Dymoke
1 142 - William Devereux 1525-/1579

Génération 12

2 206 - Humphrey Ratcliffe 1509-1566
2 214 - Robert Dymoke 1531-1580
2 284 - Walter Devereux, Viscount Hereford 1491-1558
2 285 - Mary Grey 1493-1538

Génération 13

4 413 - Elizabeth Stafford †1532
4 429 - Anne Tailboys ca 1510
4 569 - Cecily Bourchier †1493
4 571 - Cicely Bonville 1461-1529

Génération 14

8 826 - Henry Stafford, Duke of Buckingham 1455-1483
8 859 - Elizabeth Gascoyne 1472-1553
9 138 - William Bourchier 1427-1483
9 143 - Katherine Nevill ca 1442-1504

Génération 15

17 652 - Humphrey Stafford, Earl of Stafford 1425-1455
17 653 - Margaret Beaufort /1439-1474
17 718 - William Gascoyne 1443-1487
17 719 - Margaret Percy 1448
18 276 - Henry Bourchier, Earl of Essex 1404-1483
18 277 - Isabel Plantagenêt 1409-1484
18 286 - Richard Nevill, Earl of Salisbury 1400-1460

Génération 16

35 304 - Humphrey Stafford, Duke of Buckingham 1402-1460
35 305 - Anne Nevill 1408-1480
35 306 - Edmund Beaufort, Duke of Somerset ca 1406-1455
35 437 - Joan Nevill †/1482
35 438 - Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland 1421-1461
36 553 - Anne Plantagenêt 1383-1438
36 554 - Richard of Conisburgh, Earl of Cambridge 1376-1415
36 555 - Anne Mortimer 1388-1411
36 573 - Joan Beaufort ca 1379-1440

Génération 17

70 612 - John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset ca 1373-1410
70 874 - John Nevill †1482
70 876 - Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland 1393-1455
70 877 - Eleanor Nevill 1403-1472
73 106 - Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester 1356-1397
73 108 - Edmund of Langley, Duke of York 1341-1402
73 110 - Roger Mortimer, Earl of March 1374-1398
73 146 - John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 1340-1399

Génération 18

141 749 - Margaret Ferrers, lady of Oversley 1394-1458
141 753 - Elizabeth Mortimer 1371-1417
146 212 - Edward III of Windsor, King of England 1312-1377
146 221 - Philippa Plantagenêt 1355-1382

Génération 19

292 442 - Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence 1338-1368

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here's one royal descent for Jack Brooksbank's great-grandfather Giles Newton. It's taken from The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, digital images at Internet Archive < archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2-3 (Table II), 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), and 160 & 162.

I worked out another line through Giles Newton's mother & will post it later.

Gawin


1) Edward III (1312-1377), m. 1328 Philippa of Hainault (d. 1369)

2) Lionel Duke of Clarence K. G. (1338-1368), m. (1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (d. 1363)

3) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1382), m. 1368 Edmund Mortimer 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381)

4) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1444), m. (1) Sir Henry Percy K. G. (1364-1403)

5) Henry Percy 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1393-1455), m. 1414 Lady Eleanor Neville

6) Henry Percy 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), m. Eleanor Poynings (c1420-1473)

7) Henry Percy 4th Earl of Northumberland (c1449-1489), m. 1476 Lady Maud Herbert

8) Henry Percy 5th Earl of Northumberland K. G. (1478-1527), m. Catherine Spencer (d. 1542)

9) Lady Margaret Percy (d. 1544), m. Henry Clifford 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542)

10) Henry Clifford 2nd Earl of Cumberland K. B. (1517-1570), m. (2) 1552 Anne Dacre (d. 1581)

11) Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland K. B. (1559-1641), m. 1589 Grizel Hughes widow of Lord Abergavenny (d. 1613)

12) Lady Frances Clifford (c1594-1627), m. 1614 Sir Gervase Clifton of Clifton 1st Baronet K.B. M.P. (1587-1660)

13) Margaret Clifton (d. 1698), m. (2) William Whichcot of Fotherby, co. Linc.

14) George Whichcote of Harpswell, co. Linc. M. P. (b. 1653), m. (3) Frances Katherine Meres (1669-1731)

15) Katherine Whichcote (1701-1787), m. 1723 John Maddison of Stainton Vale (1691-1746)

16) Lt.-Col. George Maddison of Stainton Vale, co. Linc. & later of Dunstable Priory, co. Beds. (1729-1807), m. 1757 Mary (d. 1791) dau. of Capt. Launcelot Baugh

17) Katharine Maddison (1769-1823), m. 1796 Maj. Latham Blacker of Newent, co. Glouc.

18) Martha Theodosia Blacker (1798-1878), m. 1823 Rev. John Fendall of Meserdine, co. Glouc. (1793-1862)

19) Harriet Fendall (1826-1913), m. 1848 [her 1st cousin once removed] John Fendall Newton (1812-1877)

20) William Latham Newton of Holtby House, Yorks (1862-1948), m. 1886 Violet (1862-1951) dau of Richard Harrison of Eltofts House, Thorner, Yorks.

21) Giles Fendall Newton M.B.E. (1891-1974), m. 1921 Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972)

[Brad Verity]

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here's one royal descent for Jack Brooksbank's great-grandfather Giles Newton. It's taken from The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, digital images at Internet Archive < archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2-3 (Table II), 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), and 160 & 162.

> 1) Edward III (1312-1377), m. 1328 Philippa of Hainault (d. 1369)
> 2) Lionel Duke of Clarence K. G. (1338-1368), m. (1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (d. 1363)
> 3) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1382), m. 1368 Edmund Mortimer 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381)
> 4) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1444), m. (1) Sir Henry Percy K. G. (1364-1403)
> 5) Henry Percy 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1393-1455), m. 1414 Lady Eleanor Neville
> 6) Henry Percy 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), m. Eleanor Poynings (c1420-1473)
> 7) Henry Percy 4th Earl of Northumberland (c1449-1489), m. 1476 Lady Maud Herbert
> 8) Henry Percy 5th Earl of Northumberland K. G. (1478-1527), m. Catherine Spencer (d. 1542)
> 9) Lady Margaret Percy (d. 1544), m. Henry Clifford 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542)
> 10) Henry Clifford 2nd Earl of Cumberland K. B. (1517-1570), m. (2) 1552 Anne Dacre (d. 1581)
> 11) Francis Clifford 4th Earl of Cumberland K. B. (1559-1641), m. 1589 Grizel Hughes widow of Lord Abergavenny (d. 1613)
> 12) Lady Frances Clifford (c1594-1627), m. 1614 Sir Gervase Clifton of Clifton 1st Baronet K.B. M.P. (1587-1660)
> 13) Margaret Clifton (d. 1698), m. (2) William Whichcot of Fotherby, co. Linc.
> 14) George Whichcote of Harpswell, co. Linc. M. P. (b. 1653), m. (3) Frances Katherine Meres (1669-1731)
> 15) Katherine Whichcote (1701-1787), m. 1723 John Maddison of Stainton Vale (1691-1746)

Thank you for posting this line, Gawin. I have it in my database thru Generation 15 above. Frances Katherine Meres in Generation 14 is descended from Edward I.

And John Maddison of Stainton Vale in Generation 15 has Edward III descents. Starting with your Generation 6 above:
> 6) Henry Percy 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), m. Eleanor Poynings (c1420-1473), and had
7A) Lady Margaret Percy (b. c.1447) m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.1450-1487, descended from Edward III), and had
8A) Elizabeth Gascoigne (c.1480-1559) m. Sir George Tailboys of South Kyme (1467-1538, descended from Edward I), and had
9A) Anne Tailboys (b. c.1510) m. 1) Sir Edward Dymoke of Scrivelsby Court (by1508-1567, descended from Edward I), and had
10A) Elizabeth Dymoke (c.1540-aft.1592) m. Sir Henry Ayscough of Blyborough Hall (1534-1611, descended from Edward I), and had
11A) Sir Walter Ayscough, heir of Blyborough Hall (c.1565-1609) m. Katherine Skipwith (descended from Edward I), and had
12A) Henry Ayscough of Blyborough Hall (c.1590-1633) m. Theodosia Harrington (descended from Edward I), and had
13A) MILDRED AYSCOUGH, bap. 12 Dec. 1621 St Peter Church, Stixwould, Lincolnshire; bur. 22 Mar. 1661 All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe, Lincolnshire; m. NICHOLAS NEWCOMEN of Theddlethorpe Hall (bap. 21 Oct. 1621 St Clement Church, Saltfleetby, Lincolnshire; bur. 28 Dec. 1680 All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe), son of Thomas Newcomen of Withern (c.1591-1643) & Rebecca Warmouth (1599-1652), and had
14A) THEODOSIA NEWCOMEN, bap. 22 Dec. 1653 All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe; bur. 30 Mar. 1726 St Martin Church, Stamford Baron, Northamptonshire; m. 19 Jan. 1682 St Margaret Church, Bag Enderby, Lincolnshire, RALPH MADDISON of Stainton le Vale, Lincolnshire (bap. 8 Oct. 1626 St Michael Church, Conigsby, Lincolnshire; bur. 29 Jan. 1710 St Martin Church, Stamford Baron), son of Humphrey Maddison of Alvingham Abbey (1601-1672, descended from Edward I) & his 1st wife Cornelia Duport (1598-1638), and had
15A) JOHN MADDISON of Stainton le Vale, bap. 20 Sep. 1691 St Andrew Church, Stainton le Vale; bur. 22 Nov. 1746 St Martin Church, Stamford Baron; m. 9 July 1723 St Chad Church, Harpswell, Lincolnshire, KATHERINE WHICHCOT (see Generation 15 above)

> 16) Lt.-Col. George Maddison of Stainton Vale, co. Linc. & later of Dunstable Priory, co. Beds. (1729-1807), m. 1757 Mary (d. 1791) dau. of Capt. Launcelot Baugh
> 17) Katharine Maddison (1769-1823), m. 1796 Maj. Latham Blacker of Newent, co. Glouc.
> 18) Martha Theodosia Blacker (1798-1878), m. 1823 Rev. John Fendall of Meserdine, co. Glouc. (1793-1862)
> 19) Harriet Fendall (1826-1913), m. 1848 [her 1st cousin once removed] John Fendall Newton (1812-1877)
> 20) William Latham Newton of Holtby House, Yorks (1862-1948), m. 1886 Violet (1862-1951) dau of Richard Harrison of Eltofts House, Thorner, Yorks.
> 21) Giles Fendall Newton M.B.E. (1891-1974), m. 1921 Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972)

I need to get busy entering the above six generations into my database.

> I worked out another line through Giles Newton's mother & will post it later.

Looking forward to it!

Thanks & Cheers, -------Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here's another Maddison line, this one through Jack's great-grandmother Mary Cicely (Meyrick) Newton, also published The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, digital images at Internet Archive < archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2-3 (Table II), 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), 163, 165-66.

15) Katherine Whichcote (1701-1787), m. 1723 John Maddison of Stainton Vale (1691-1746)

16) Anne Maddison (c1728-1783), m. Rev. Sir William Anderson of Broughton 6th Baronet (d. 1785)

17) Theodosia Dorothy Anderson (1757-1831), m. 1778 Rev. Richard Vevers Rector of Saxby, co. Leicester, & Stoke Albany and Kettering, co. Northants (d. 1838)

18) Theodosia Anne Vevers (1779-1852), m. 1804 Thomas Denman 1st Lord Denman Lord Chief-Justice of England (1779-1854)

19) Hon. Richard Denman (1814-1887), m. 1840 Emma Jones (c1821-1904)

20) Emma Sophia Georgina Denman (1845-1939), m. (1) 1872 Capt. Oswin Addison Baker-Cresswell (1844-1886)

21) Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell O.B.E. (1878-1970), m. 1897 Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet, C.B., C.M.G. (1862-1932)

22) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972), m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

[Brad Verity]

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 1:11:37 PM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here's another Maddison line, this one through Jack's great-grandmother Mary Cicely (Meyrick) Newton, also published The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, digital images at Internet Archive < archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2-3 (Table II), 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), 163, 165-66.
>
> 15) Katherine Whichcote (1701-1787), m. 1723 John Maddison of Stainton Vale (1691-1746)
> 16) Anne Maddison (c1728-1783), m. Rev. Sir William Anderson of Broughton 6th Baronet (d. 1785)
> 17) Theodosia Dorothy Anderson (1757-1831), m. 1778 Rev. Richard Vevers Rector of Saxby, co. Leicester, & Stoke Albany and Kettering, co. Northants (d. 1838)
> 18) Theodosia Anne Vevers (1779-1852), m. 1804 Thomas Denman 1st Lord Denman Lord Chief-Justice of England (1779-1854)

Very good, Gawin. I have this line in my database up through Generation 18.

I didn't find any Edward I lines in the ancestry of the 1st Baron Denman (Generation 18 above), nor in the ancestry of Rev. Richard Vevers (Generation 17 above), who was born with the surname Wilkinson on 2 February 1756 in Rothwell, Yorkshire, son of Thomas Wilkinson & Susannah Broadhead.

But there is an Edward III line for Sir William Anderson, 6th Bart. (Generation 16 above).

Edward III had
1) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence
2) Philippa Plantagenet, Countess of March & Ulster
3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (1364-1403), and had
4A) Lady Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1436) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford (1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
5A) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.1452, descended from Edward I), and had
6A) Maud Clifford (b. c.1436) m. 2) Sir Edmund Sutton of Dudley Castle (c.1430-1482), and had
7A) Dorothy Dudley (c.1465-1517) m. Richard Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (1457-1521), and had
8A) Jane Wrottesley m. Richard Cressett of Upton Cressett Hall (c.1480-aft.1546, descended from Edward I), and had
9A) Cecily Cressett (c.1511-1581) m. William Acton of Aldenham Hall (c.1508-1567), and had
10A) Richard Acton of London (c.1535-1578) m. Margaret Daniell, and had
11A) Sir William Acton, 1st Baronet of London (c.1573-1651) m. Anne Bill, and had
12A) ELIZABETH ACTON, bap. 16 Aug. 1612 St Mary Whitechapel, London; d. by 2 May 1667 (when administration of estate was granted); m. 16 Apr. 1635 St Mary Church, Leyton, Essex, Sir THOMAS WHITMORE, 1st Baronet of Apley (b. 28 Nov. 1612; d. by 20 Sep. 1654, when will was proved), son of Sir William Whitmore of Apley Park (1573-1648) & Dorothy Weld (d. 1626), and had
13A) DOROTHY WHITMORE, b. c.1638; d. 1 Feb. 1726, bur. St Andrew Church, Hempstead, Essex; m. 7 Dec. 1658 St Giles in the Fields, London, Sir ELIAB HARVEY of Rolls House, Chigwell, Essex (bap. 3 June 1635 St Lawrence Pountney, London; d. 20 Feb. 1699, bur. 14 Mar. 1699 St Andrew Church, Hempstead), son of Eliab Harvey of Winchlow Hall (1590-1661) & Mary West (d. 1674), and had
14A) WILLIAM HARVEY of Rolls House, bap. 18 Dec. 1663 St Peter le Poer, London; d. 31 Oct. 1731, bur. 7 Nov. 1731 St Andrew Church, Hempstead); m. 1 Sep. 1681 St Martin Outwich, London, DOROTHY DYCER (b. c.1668; d. 28 June 1711, bur. 10 July 1711 St Andrew Church, Hempstead), dau of Sir Robert Dycer, 2nd Baronet of Uphall (c.1644-1675) & Judith Gulston, and had [**}
15A) MARY HARVEY, b. c.1690; d. 16 Aug. 1748, bur. 22 Aug. 1748 St Helen Church, Kilnwick Percy, Yorkshire; m. 11 Mar. 1711 St Edmund the King Lombard Street, London, as his 1st wife, Sir EDMUND ANDERSON, 5th Baronet of Broughton (bap. 4 Nov. 1687 St Giles in the Fields, London; d. 3 May 1765 Kilnwick Percy Hall, bur. 10 May 1765 St Helen Church, Kilnwick Percy), son of Sir Edmund Anderson, 4th Baronet of Broughton (1629-1703) & Elizabeth Deane (d. 1716), and had
16A) Sir WILLIAM ANDERSON, 6th Baronet of Broughton, bap. 31 Mar. 1712 St Giles in the Fields, London; d. 9 Mar. 1785 Bell Hall, Yorkshire, bur. 15 Mar. 1785 St Helen Church, Lea, Lincolnshire) m. 7 Aug. 1747 St Edith Church, Little Grimsby, Lincolnshire, ANNE MADDISON (see Generation 16 above)

[**] William Harvey of Rolls House (1689-1742), the brother of Mary (nee Harvey) Anderson (see Generation 15A above), is an ancestor of actor Benedict Cumberbatch.

> 19) Hon. Richard Denman (1814-1887), m. 1840 Emma Jones (c1821-1904)
> 20) Emma Sophia Georgina Denman (1845-1939), m. (1) 1872 Capt. Oswin Addison Baker-Cresswell (1844-1886)
> 21) Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell O.B.E. (1878-1970), m. 1897 Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet, C.B., C.M.G. (1862-1932)
> 22) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972), m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

Looking forward to entering the above four generations into my database.

Thanks & Cheers, -----Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Good grief! Jack Brooksbank has quite a tangled web of royal lines, aren't they?

Here's another line via Emma Sophia Georgina Denman. It was also published in Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, digital images < https://archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2-3 (Table II), 9 (Table VIII), 10 (Table IX), 58, and 60-61.

1) Edward III (1312-1377), m. 1328 Philippa of Hainault (d. 1369)

2) Lionel Duke of Clarence K. G. (1338-1368), m. (1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (d. 1363)

3) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1382), m. 1368 Edmund Mortimer 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381)

4) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1444), m. (1) Sir Henry Percy K. G. (1364-1403)

5) Henry Percy 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1393-1455), m. 1414 Lady Eleanor Neville

6) Henry Percy 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), m. Eleanor Poynings (c1420-1473)

7) Henry Percy 4th Earl of Northumberland (c1449-1489), m. 1476 Lady Maud Herbert

8) Henry Percy 5th Earl of Northumberland K. G. (1478-1527), m. Catherine Spencer (d. 1542)

9) Sir Thomas Percy (d. 1537), m. Eleanor Harbottle

10) Thomas Percy 7th & 1st Earl of Northumberland K. G. (1528-1572), m. Lady Anne Somerset

11) Lady Lucy Percy, m. Sir Edward Stanley of Eynsham, co. Oxon & Tonge Castle, co. Salop K. B.

12) Venetia Stanley, m. Sir Kenelm Digby of Gothurst, Oxon (1603-1665)

13) John Digby of Gothurst (d. 1673), m. Margaret Longueville

14) Margaretta Maria Digby, m. 1690 Sir John Conway of Bodrhyddan 2nd Baronet M. P. (c1673-1721)

15) Maria Margaretta Conway (d. 1731), m. 1721 Sir Thomas Longueville 4th Baronet (d. 1759)

16) Maria Margaretta Longueville (b. 1722), m. (1) 1739 Thomas Jones (d. 1749)

17) Thomas Jones of The Court, Wrexham (1740-1799), m. (2) Anne Lloyd (d. 1796)

18) Hugh Jones of Larkhill, co. Lancaster (1776-1842), m. 1806 Elizabeth (d. 1848) dau of Benjamin Heywood of Stanley Hall, Wakefield, co. York

19) Emma Jones (c1821-1904), m. 1840 Hon. Richard Denman (1814-1887)

20) Emma Sophia Georgina Denman (1845-1939), m. (1) 1872 Capt. Oswin Addison Baker-Cresswell (1844-1886)

21) Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell O.B.E. (1878-1970), m. 1897 Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet., C.B., C.M.G. (1862-1932)

22) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972), m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

Gawin

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Yet another Edward III line, taken from The Plantagenet Roll: Isabel of Essex Volume, digital images in Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. See pp. 1 (Table I), 2 (Table II), 13 (Table XI), 17 (Table XV) and 231-233.


1) Richard Earl of Cambridge (d. 1415), m. Lady Anne Mortimer [both descendants of Edward III]

2) Isabel of York (d. 1484), m. Henry Bourchier 2nd Count of Eu & 1st Earl of Essex (1406-1483) [descendant of Edward III]

3) William Bourchier, styled Viscount Bourchier (d. 1471) m. Lady Anne Wydeville (d. 1489)

4) Cecily Bourchier, m. John Devereux 8th Lord Ferrers of Chartley (d. 1501)

5) Walter Devereux 1st Viscount Hereford K. G. (c1491-1558), m. (1) Lady Mary Grey (d. 1534)

6) Sir Richard Devereux (d. 1547), m. Lady Dorothy Hastings

7) Elizabeth Devereux (d. 1583), m. 1564 Sir John Vernon of Hodnet (d. 1591)

8) Elizabeth Vernon (b. 1572), m. Henry Wriothesley 2nd Earl of Southampton K. G. (1573-1624)

9) Lady Penelope Wriothesley (d. 1667), m. c1617 William Spencer 2nd Lord Spencer K. B. (1592-1636)

10) Alice Spencer (1625-c1712), m. Henry Moore 1st Earl of Drogheda (d. 1675)

11) Lady Mary Moore (d. 1726), m. John 2nd Lord Bellenden (d. 1707)

12) Hon. Mary Bellenden (d. 1736), m. 1720 John Campbell 4th Duke of Argyll K. T. (c1693-1770)

13) John Campbell 5th Duke of Argyll (1723-1806), m. 1759 Elizabeth (d. 1793), widow of the Duke of Hamilton & dau of John Gunning of Castle Coote, co. Roscommon.

14) Lady Charlotte Susan Maria Campbell (1775-1861), m. (1) 1796 Col. John Campbell of Schawfield (d. 1809)

15) Eliza Maria Campbell (d. 1842), m. 1815 Sir William Gordon Gordon-Cumming of Altyre & Gordonstoun 2nd Baronet M. P. (d. 1854)

16) Anne Seymour Gordon-Cumming (d. 1858), m. 1843 Oswin Addison Baker-Cresswell (1819-1856)

17) Oswin Cumming Baker-Cresswell of Cresswell (1844-1886), m. 1872 Emma Sophia Georgina Denman (1845-1939)

18) Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell O.B.E. (1878-1970), m. 1897 Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet., C.B., C.M.G. (1862-1932)

19 ) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972), m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

Gawin

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Here’s a Meyrick line to Henry VII.

Generations 1-13 were published in Ruvigny’s The Blood Royal of Britain Being a Roll of the Living Descendents of Edward IV and Henry VII Kings of England, and James III, King of Scotland [aka The Tudor Roll], digital images in Ancestry. For some reason I keep getting an error messages when I try opening some of the files so I’ve only been able to view Generations 1-7 and 10-13 so I’m used another source for 8-9.

Generation 1-7: Tudor Roll, pp. 13 (Table XIV), 48 (LXXXII), 49 (LXXXIII), and 58 (Table XCVI).

Generations 10-13: Tudor Roll, Supplement, p. 486

Generations 8-13: Alice Mary Peel, “Charltons of Apley Castle, Shropshire.” Transactions of the Shropshire Archaeological Society, Vol. 53, 1950, pp. 258-92.

1) King Henry VII (1457-1509), m. Elizabeth of York (1465-1503)

2) Princess Mary (1496-1533), m. (2) Charles Brandon 1st Duke of Suffolk (c1484-1545)

3) Lady Eleanor Brandon (d. 1547), m. 1537 Henry Clifford 2nd Earl of Cumberland (1517-1569/70)

4) Lady Margaret Clifford (c1540-1596), m. 1556 Henry Stanley 4th Earl of Derby K. G. (d. 1593)

5) Ferdinando Stanley 5th Earl of Derby (c1559-1594), m. Alice Spencer (d. 1637)

6) Lady Frances Stanley (1583-1635/6), m. John Egerton 1st Earl of Bridgewater (1579-1649)

7) Lady Arabella Egerton (d. 1669), m. Oliver St. John, styled Lord St. John K. B. (d. 1642)

8) Dorothy St. John (d. 1689), m. 1655, Francis Charleton of Apley Castle, co. Salop (d. 1698)

9) John Charlton of Apley Castle (c1658-1720), m. 1681 Anne (c1660-1712) dau of Sir Richard Chiverton of Clerkenwell, Lord Mayor of London

10) St. John Chiverton Charlton of Apley Castle M. P. (d. 1742), m. Arabella dau. of Maj-Gen Edward Braddock & sister of Gen. Edward Braddock, General in Chief of His Majesty's Forces in North America

https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1715-1754/member/charlton-st-john-1742

11) St. John Charlton of Apley Castle, co. Salop (1733-1776), m. (2) 1759 Frances (c1739-1767) dau & heir of John Tampsett of Wittersham, Ashford, & Goudhurst

12) William Charlton of Apley Castle (1761-1838), m. 1796 Catherine (d. 1839) widow of Dr. Thomason of York and dau of James Grierson of Liverpool

13) St. John Chiverton Charlton of Apley Castle (1799-1873), m. (1) 1820 Jane Sophia dau. & heir of Thomas Meyrick of Bush, co. Pembroke

14) Sir Thomas Meyrick (born Charlton) 1st Baronet K.C.B. (1837-1921), m. 1860 Mary Rhoda Hill (1838-1924)

15) Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet., C.B., C.M.G. (1862-1932), m. 1897 Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell O.B.E. (1878-1970)

16) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972), m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

Gawin

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On Friday, 12 October 2018 17:51:46 UTC+1, wjhonson wrote:
> https://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=wjhonson&id=I255752&style=TEXT

I have wondered, but haven't checked. Is this the Lamplugh Brooksbank family?

The Lamplugh of Lamplugh Hall in Lamplugh were an old knightly Cumbrian family where the resident male line died out in the eighteenth century. The Lordship of the Manor of Lamplugh & Arlecdon passed to the Brooksbanks, which I think they sold in 2000.

Chris

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Jack Brooksbank belongs to this family:

http://paulfiddian.co.uk/documents/The%20Brooksbanks%20Family%20of%20Elland.htm

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here's another Edward III line I worked out for Jack Brooksbank's great-grandfather Giles Newton. I hit a brick wall when I reached Jane (Mattenley) Harrison (#13). To make a long story short I eventually identified her as the illegitimate daughter of John Lane of Kings Bromley, Staffordshire & Melissa Mattenley but had no proof. I emailed the Kings Bromley Historians, whose website I had found on the internet, and received a reply from Dr. Allan Howard. He has researched the Lane family and confirmed that John Lane had an illegitimate daughter named Jane Mattenley/Mattingley. But he didn't know her mother's identity or what became of her, so he had one piece of the puzzle and I had the other.

Generations 1-12 are taken from The Plantagenet Roll, Anne of York Volume, digital images in Ancestry. See Tables I, II, XXVII, XXII, XXXIV, and p. 434. I've listed my sources for Generations 13-17.

Interestingly enough (at least for Americans like me), Giles Newton was born in Windom, Cottonwood County, Minnesota, USA, where his parents belonged to a small English colony. According to local newspaper articles they recreated their lives in England: played polo, went foxhunting, attended the local Episcopal Church (part of the Anglican Communion). The family returned to England in 1893 where Giles's father accepted a position as Inspector for the Board of Agriculture (now the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries).

1) Richard Duke of York, m. Cecily Neville [both descended from Edward III]

2) Anne of York (1439-1476), m. (2) Sir Thomas St. Leger

3) Anne St. Leger (d. 1526), m. George 12th Lord Roos (d. 1513)

4) Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland K. G. (d. 1543), m. Eleanor (d. 1551), dau of Sir William Paston

5) Lady Katherine Manners (d. 1572), m. 1554 Sir Henry Capel of Raines Hall, co. Essex & Hadham, co. Herts

6) Anne Capel (1570-1634 or 1642), m. Sir Robert Chester of Royston & Cockenhatch J.P. (1566-1641)

7) Elizabeth Chester, m. Samuel Hinton D. C. L. of Lichfield, co. Stafford (living 1663)

8) Elizabeth Hinton (d. 1711), m. Walter Fowler of Pendeford, co. Stafford (1632-1712)

9) Charles Fowler of Pendeford, co. Stafford (1669-1731), m. Sarah (d. 1701), dau & heir of Robert Leveson

10) Richard Fowler of Pendeford, co. Stafford (1691-1752), m. 1718 Dorothy (1693-1764), dau & heir of Humphrey Whadock of Corley

11) Sarah Fowler (1723-1784), m. 1750 John Lane of Bentley Hall, co. Stafford (1723-1782)

12) John Lane of King’s Bromley, co. Stafford (1752-1824) & Melissa Mattenley/Mattingley (c1757-1832)

ADDITIONAL SOURCES:

(a) Will of John Lane of Kings Bromley, Staffordshire, undated, proved 22 February 1825; PROB 11/1695/353; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He bequeathed annuities to Mrs. Melissa Mattenley and Maria Mattenley [another of their illegitimate children].

(b) Burial record, 27 November 1834, for Melissa Mattenley of High Street, aged 77 years; St. Mary Abbots Parish, Kensington; digital images, Ancestry < www.ancestry >, digital images, “London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She was buried by Rev. Frederick Gauntlett whose wife Elizabeth Sarah Melissa was another illegitimate child of Melissa Mattenley and John Lane.

13) Jane Sarah Melissa Mattenley/Mattingley (1781-1869), m. 1800 Richard Harrison of Hull & Wyton Hall, Wyton, Yorks, timber merchant (c1775-1828)

SOURCES:

(a) Baptismal record, 4 March 1781, for Jane-Sarah-Maria-Melissa Holte, daughter of John-Lane and Melissa, born 26 February 1781; St. James’s Parish, Piccadilly, Westminster; digital images, “City of Westminster Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Holte was the married surname of John Lane’s sister Sarah (Lane) Holte, whose sister Elizabeth (Lane) Newton later made him her heir.

(b) Will of Elizabeth Newton of Kings Bromley, Staffordshire, 25 April 1794, proved 29 January 1795; PROB 11/1254/296; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She bequeathed £1000 to “Miss Jane Mattingley (natural Daughter of John Lane Esqr)” and left John Lane her fortune and the Kings Bromley Hall estate.

(c) Allan Howard, The Lane Inheritance: Kings Bromley and Barbados (Kings Bromley Historians, 2012). See pp. 6 and 23 for John Lane’s illegitimate daughter Jane Mattenley.

(d) Marriage record, 16 June 1800, for Richard Harrison (of this parish, 24) and Jane Mattenley (of this parish, 19); St. Marylebone, London; digital images, “London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1931,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. John Lane and M. Mattenley were witnesses.

(e) Marriage notice for R. Harrison and Jane Mattenley, Leeds Intelligencer, June 23, 1800, p. 3, col. 2; digital images, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “Lately was married at St. Mary le-bone church, London, Mr. R. Harrison, of Hull, merchant, to Miss Jane Mattenley, of Portman-place, London.”

(f) Baptismal record, 25 May 1812, for Georgiana Harrison, born 5 May, “daut. of Esqr. Richard and Jane Harrison who were married at St. Mary le bone Church London, the 16th June 1800,” St. Mary the Virgin Parish, Swine, Yorkshire; digital images, “Yorkshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(g) Death notice for Richard Harrison “The Leeds Intelligencer, and Yorkshire General Advertiser, June 12, 1828, p. 3, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(h) Burial record, 13 June 1828, for Richard Harrison, Esqr., Wyton, aged 52 years; St. Mary the Virgin Parish, Swine, Yorkshire; digital images, “Yorkshire Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(i) Death notice for Jane Melissa Harrison, The Register, and Magazine of Biography: A Record of Births, Marriages, Deaths, and Other Genealogical and Personal Occurrences, Vol. 1, 1869, p. 432, col. 2; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id= 1NAZsLlcJd4C&pg=PA432 >. “At Exbury, Torquay Jane Melissa, widow of Richard Harrison, esq. of Wyton Hall, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.”

(j) Burial entry, 25 March 1869, for Jane Melissa Harrison, residence Exbury, aged 88 years; Torquay Cemetery Register, 4241-C-PR-1-1, p. 188, entry no. 14974; digital image, “Devon Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(k) Jane Harrison entry, 29 April 1869; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1869, Habakkuk-Hitchon, p. 129; digital images, “England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < Ancestry.com >. “Jane Harrison late of Torquay in the County of Devon Widow deceased who died 21 March 1869 at Torquay aforesaid was proved at Exeter by the oath of Frances Harrison of Torquay aforesaid Spinster the Daughter the sole Executrix. Effects under £450.”

14) Charles Richard Harrison of Octon Lodge and Hull, Yorkshire, timber merchant (c1806-1854), m. 1829 [his 1st cousin] Mary Ann Harrison (1808-1877) dau of Robert Harrison of Rothwell, Yorkshire.

SOURCES:

(a) Marriage record, 2 July 1829, for Charles Richard Harrison (of the parish of Sutton, Diocese of York) and Mary Ann Harrison (of this parish), Holy Trinity Church, Rothwell, West Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Marriage notice for Charles Richard Harrison and Mary Ann Harrison, The Leeds Intelligencer, and Yorkshire General Advertiser, July 9, 1829, p. 3, col. 6; digital images, FIndmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “Same day [Thursday last], at Rothwell, by the Rev. Joseph Wardle, Charles Richard Harrison, Esq. eldest son of the late Richard Harrison, Esq., of Wyton Hall, near Hull, to Mary Ann, eldest daughter of Robert Harrison, Esq. of Rothwell Haigh, near this town.”

(c) Death notice for C.R. Harrison; The Gentleman’s Magazine, New Series, Vol. 196, July 1854, p. 92; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=ZD1DAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA92 >. “May 22: At Torquay, aged 49, C. R Harrison, esq. late of Hull.”

(d) Will of Charles Richard Harrison of Octon Lodge and Hull, Yorkshire, Esquire, dated 14 May 1840, codicil 16 May 1840, died 22 May 1854, proved 22 July 1854; Prerogative Court of York 3044/18; digital images provided by Borthwick Institute of Archives, University of York, Heslington, York. He made bequests to his wife Mary Ann and their children [unnamed] and appointed his brothers-in-law Richard Harrison and George Frederick Harrison executors.
(e) Burial entry, 25 May 1854, for Charles Richard Harrison, residence Upton, aged 48 years; St. Mary Magdalen Parish, Upton, Torquay Devon; digital image, “Devon Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(f) Baptismal record, 23 February 1808, for Maryann Harrison, daughter of Robert Harrison and Elizabeth Mell, abode Howden; Minster Church of St Peter and St Paul, Howden, Yorkshire; digital image, “Yorkshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(g) Death notice for Mary Ann Harrison, The Hull Packet and East Riding Times, May 4, 1877, p. 8, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “April 28, at Roundhay (Leeds), aged 69 years, Mary Ann, widow of the late Charles Richard Harrison, of Hull and Octon.”

(h) Mary Ann Harrison entry, 8 May 1877; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1877, Habberfield-Hysum, p. 143; digital image, ““England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. “The Will of Mary Ann Harrison formerly of Scarcroft in the Parish of Thorner but late of Roundhay in the Parish of Barwick in Elmet both in the County of York Widow who died 28 April 1877 at Roundhay was proved at Wakefield by Richard Harrison of Dock-street Leeds in the said County Timber Merchant the Son the sole Executor.”

15) Richard Harrison of Leeds and Eltofts House, Thorner, Yorkshire, timber merchant (1830-1902), m. (1) 1852 Emily Gatliff (1833-1881) dau of Thomas Gatliff of Brunswick House, Leeds.

SOURCES:

(a) Baptismal record, 12 August 1830, for Richard Harrison, born 12 July to Charles Richard and Mary Ann Harrison, abode Sutton, profession timber merchant; St. James Parish, Sutton on Hull, Yorkshire; digital image, “Yorkshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(b) Marriage record, 5 May 1852, for Richard Harrison (21, merchants clerk, residence Springfield Place, son of Charles Richard Harrison, timber merchant) and Emily Gatliff (19, residence Brunswick Street, daughter of Thomas Gatliff, Gentleman); St. Peter Parish, Leeds, Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Marriage notice for Richard Harrison and Emily Gatliff, The Hull Advertiser, May 7, 1852, p. 8, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On Wednesday last, at the Parish Church, Leeds, by the Rev. Edward Jackson, Richard Harrison, Esq., elder son of Charles Richard Harrison, Esq., late of Hull, to Emily, only daughter of the late Thomas Gatliff, Esq., of Brunswick House, Leeds.

(d) Gravestone for Richard Harrison (BORN JULY 12 1830 / DIED DEC. 8 1902), St. Matthew Churchyard, Borth, Ceredigion, Wales; digital image, Find A Grave < https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/170922482 >. His gravestone also includes an inscription commemorating his son Humphrey Robin Harrison. His daughter Emily and her husband Robert Feilden are also buried in the cemetery.

(e) Richard Harrison entry; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1903, Habart-Jutson, p. 65; digital images, “England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < Ancestry.com >. “Harrison Richard of Borth Cardiganshire died 8 December 1902 Probate London, 5 February to Marian Ellen Harrison spinster and Emily Jane Feilden (wife of Robert Feilden) Effects £531 10s. 7d.” [Marian Harrison and Emily Feilden were his daughters]

(f) Baptismal record, 30 September 1833, for Emily Gatliff, born 11 June to Thomas and Ellen Gatliff, abode North Street, profession wool stapler; St. Peter Parish, Leeds, Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(g) Death notice for Emily Harrison, The Hull Packet and East Riding Times, April 14, 1881, p. 4, col. 3; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “April 7, at Eltofts, Thorner, near Leeds, aged 47 years, Emily, wife of Richard Harrison, Esq.”

(h) Burial record, 13 April 1881, for Emily Harrison, abode Eltofts, Thorner, aged 47 years; St. Peter Parish, Thorner, Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

16) Violet Harrison (1862-1951), m. 1886 William Latham Newton of Holtby House, York, and Goldington, Bedford, Inspector Ministry of Agriculture & Fisheries (1862-1948)

SOURCES:

(a)Violet Newton entry, 1939 Register, Vol. 1959F (Bedfordshire), ED DPBG (Bedford municipal borough), sub-registration district 174-2, schedule 146 (“The Cottage,” Putnoe Street), sub number 2; The National Archives (Kew) RG/1959F/013/16; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. She was born 18 Sept 1862 and lived with her husband William L. Newton and daughter Blanche E. Newton.

(b) Baptismal record, 7 April 1863, for Violet Harrison, daughter of Richard and Emily Harrison, abode Scarcroft, profession timber merchant; St. Peter Parish, Thorner, Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Marriage record, 17 February 1886, for William Latham Newton (24, Gentleman, residence Bampton, Oxon, son of John Fendall Newton, deceased) and Violet Harrison (23, residence Eltofts, Thorner, daughter of Richard Harrison, Gentleman); St. Peter Parish, Thorner, Yorkshire; digital image, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(d) Marriage notice for William Lathum [sic] Newton and Violet Harrison, The York Herald, February 19, 1886, p. 4, col. 1; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On the 17th inst., at St. Peter’s church, Thorner, William Lathum, youngest son of the late John Fendal Newton, of Potto Grange, Yorkshire, to Violet, sixth daughter of Richard Harrison, of Eltofts.”

(e) Death notice for Violet Newton, The Bedfordshire Times and Bedfordshire Standard, May 25, 1951, p. 10, col. 8; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On 23 May 1951, Violet, widow of William Latham Newton, The Cotage, Putnoe Street, Bedford aged 88 years. Funeral service today (Friday), 3:30 p.m., at Goldington Church.”

(f) Violet Harrison entry; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1951, Nabb-Rypperda Wierdsma, p. 61; digital image, “England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < Ancestry.com >. “Newton Violet of The Cottage Church-lane Goldington Bedfordshire widow died 23 May 1951 Probate York 12 July to Blanche Emily Newton spinster. Effects £2617 15s. 11d.”

(g) William Latham Newton entry; Joseph Foster, Oxford Men, 1880-1892: With a Record of their Schools, Honours and Degrees (1893), p. 442; digital image, Internet Archive < https://archive.org/details/oxfordmen188018900fostuoft/page/n325 >. “Newton, William Latham, born at Whorlton, Yorks, 13 Jan., 1862; 3s. John Fendall, of Sandybrooke Hall, co. Derby, arm.,, deceased. MAGDALEN, matric. 16 Oct. 80, aged 18, from Richmond gr. School.”

(h) Death notice for William Latham Newton, The Bedfordshire Times and Bedfordshire Standard, January 23, 1948, p. 8, col. 8; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On 16 January 1948, at Goldington, Bedford, William Latham Newton, husband of Violet and father of Blanche and Giles Newton, aged 86 years.”

(i) William Latham Newton entry; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1948, Naas-Ryzman, p. 52; digital image, “England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < Ancestry.com >. “Newton William Latham of The Cottage Putnoe-street Goldington Bedfordshire died 16 January 1948 Probate London 18. Effects £566 1s. 4d.”

17) Giles Fendall Newton of Staplefield Court, Staplefield, Sussex, MBE, president of Cape Asbestos Company Ltd (1891-1974)

SOURCES:

(a) Birth record, 27 May 1891, for [male] Newton; Cottonwood County (Minnesota) Birth Records, vol. B, p. 94, 1891, entry no. 9; Cottonwood County Recorder (Windom); digital image, FamilySearch < familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-YG3D-B?cc=1803974&wc=MRJJ-W38%3A146207901 >. Born Windom village, parents Wm. L. (age 29) and Viola (28) Newton, both born England; registered 2 February 1892.

(b) Marriage notice for Mr. G. Newton and Miss Meyrick, The Times, June 13, 1921, p. 13; digital image, The Times Digital Archive < www.gale.com/c/the-times-digital-archive >. “Owing to illness in the bride’s family the marriage arranged between Mr. Giles Newton and Miss Cicely Meyrick will take place quietly at St. Mary’s Church, Pembroke, on Tuesday, June 28, at 2 o’clock.”

(c) Death notice for Giles Fendall Newton, The Times (London), April 9, 1974, p. 28, col. 3; digital image, The Times Digital Archive < www.gale.com/c/the-times-digital-archive >. “On April 8, 1974, peacefully at his home, 7 Courtenay Gates, Hove, Giles Fendall Newton, in his 84th year. Very much loved husband of the late Mary Cicely, dear father of Michael and Prunella, and brother of Blanche. Funeral service at the Church of St. John the Baptist, First Avenue, Hove, on Thursday, April 11, at 11:30 a.m., followed by interment at Hove Cemetery. Flowers may be sent to Hanningtons, 4/6 Montefiore Road, Hove.”

(d) Giles Fendall Newton entry; Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England, 1974, Neasham-Page, p. 6505; digital image, “England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995,” Ancestry < Ancestry.com >. “Newton, Giles Fendall of 7 Courtenay Gate Kingsway Hove died 8 April 1974 Probate London 5 August £32591.”

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The late actor Michael Wilding shared this line as do his children by the much-married Elizabeth Taylor (Wilding was husband #2). My source is a website that is no longer available but can still be accessed via the Way Back Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180722213318/http://website.lineone.net/~hstjw/p44.htm#i204

12) John Lane of King’s Bromley, co. Stafford (1752-1824) & Melissa Mattenley/Mattingley (c1757-1832) [see above]

13) Elizabeth Sarah Melissa Mattenley (c1793-1868) m. 1817 Rev. Frederick Gauntlett

14) Elizabeth Gauntlett (1820-1893) m. 1839 Rev. James Henry Wilding

15) Charles Frederick Wilding (1842-1930) m. 1873 Isabel Ellen Henley

16) Henry Wilding (1874-1970) m. 1903 Ethel Mary Elizabeth Thomson

17) Michael Charles Gauntlett Wilding (1912-1979)

I also worked out some additional Edward III lines through Mary Rhoda (Hill) Meyrick and I will try to post them later this week.

Gawin

[ch...@dickinson.uk.net]

Hello Gawin

Thank you for that. It is indeed the same family - the account made for a fascinating read.

When I was in Lamplugh in 1999, my cousin and hostess Pam Dickinson was very grateful for the assistance of the Brooksbank family in restoring the old gateway to Lamplugh Hall (that had collapsed in a gale). Pic here:

http://buildingsoflondon.co.uk/diary/2018/09/sep05-01.htm


Brooksbank archives at Whitehaven RO:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ecfe9b1e-7bf3-4f94-9be4-7cbfaabb58d0

Chris

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here's a link to the Brooksbank entry from Burke's Peerage, 1949 ed.:

https://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse/page/268

[ch...@dickinson.uk.net]

Thank you.

I've never really followed Lamplugh/Raper/Brooksbank genealogy, though my family started as stewards for Lamplugh Hall in the early seventeenth century, or possibly a touch earlier. My interest has been in the yeoman families, like mine, that surrounded them.

The Yorkshire connection to Lamplugh seems to be shrouded in mystery - not just at this gentry level.

Chris

[John Higgins]

On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 8:51:23 PM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:

> ```````````
>
> The late actor Michael Wilding shared this line as do his children by the much-married Elizabeth Taylor (Wilding was husband #2). My source is a website that is no longer available but can still be accessed via the Way Back Machine:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20180722213318/http://website.lineone.net/~hstjw/p44.htm#i204
>
> 12) John Lane of King’s Bromley, co. Stafford (1752-1824) & Melissa Mattenley/Mattingley (c1757-1832) [see above]
>
> 13) Elizabeth Sarah Melissa Mattenley (c1793-1868) m. 1817 Rev. Frederick Gauntlett
>
> 14) Elizabeth Gauntlett (1820-1893) m. 1839 Rev. James Henry Wilding
>
> 15) Charles Frederick Wilding (1842-1930) m. 1873 Isabel Ellen Henley
>
> 16) Henry Wilding (1874-1970) m. 1903 Ethel Mary Elizabeth Thomson
>
> 17) Michael Charles Gauntlett Wilding (1912-1979)
>
> I also worked out some additional Edward III lines through Mary Rhoda (Hill) Meyrick and I will try to post them later this week.
>
> Gawin

In my data I currently show 8 Edward III lines for Mary Rhoda Hill. Most of them were posted by Olivier Guionneau last week - all of them through Jane Broughton, wife of Sir Rowland Hill, 1st Bt, and daughter of Sir Brian Broughton, 3rd Bt., and his wife Elizabeth Delves. Here's an additional line, starting with Cardinal Henry Beaufort, illegitimate (later legitimized) son of John of Gaunt.

1. Cardinal Henry Beaufort (d. 11.IV.1447) (unm.)
2. [illeg.] Joan Beaufort; m. Sir Edward Stradling (d. ca. 1453)
3. Sir Henry Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 1476); m. Elizabeth Herbert
4. Thomas Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 8.IX.1480); m. Janet Mathew
5. Sir Edward Stradling (d. 8.V.1535); m. Elizabeth Arundell of Lanherne (d. 20.II.1513)
6. Jane Stradling (20.II.1505-1555); m. Alexander Popham of Huntworth (d. 11.VI.1556)
7. Katherine Popham (d. 9.XI.1588); m. 3.II.1558 (his 2nd) William Pole [or Poole] of Shute, Devonshire (31.VII.1515-15.VIII.1587)
8. Sir William Pole of Colcombe (27.VIII.1561-9.II.1635/6) [the antiquary - see ODNB]; m. (1) 30.VII.1583 Mary Periam (30.IV.1567-2.V.1605)
9. Eleanor Pole (bap. 22.V.1597, bur. 7.IV.1676); m. Anthony Floyer of Floyers Hayes and of Berne, Dorsetshire (bur. 2.XI.1671)
10. William Floyer of Berne, Dorset (d. 7.I.1680/1); m. (1) 22.V.1641 Margaret Lawrence of Creech Grange
11. Anthony Floyer of Abbot's Wooton, Dorset (living 1682); m. settlement 21.IX.1664 Sarah Gould of Upway, Dorset (living 1728)
12. Rev. William Floyer, rector of Trusham (b. 1676, bur. 1.IX.1742); m. Sarah Burwell
13. Margaret Floyer (1722-1806); m. 12.II.1743 James Cornish (bap. 2.I.1720, d. 18.X.1785)
14. Philip Cornish (bap. 1.III.1753); m. Mary Mackenzie of Clarendon, Jamaica
15. Elizabeth Rhodes Cornish (d. 16.XII.1842); m. 16.XI.1795 Col. John Hill of Hawkestone [grandparents of Mary Rhoda Hill]

The families of Floyer and Cornish are covered in various editions of Burke's LG.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

> In my data I currently show 8 Edward III lines for Mary Rhoda Hill. Most of them were posted by Olivier Guionneau last week - all of them through Jane Broughton, wife of Sir Rowland Hill, 1st Bt, and daughter of Sir Brian Broughton, 3rd Bt., and his wife Elizabeth Delves. Here's an additional line, starting with Cardinal Henry Beaufort, illegitimate (later legitimized) son of John of Gaunt.
>
> 1. Cardinal Henry Beaufort (d. 11.IV.1447) (unm.)
> 2. [illeg.] Joan Beaufort; m. Sir Edward Stradling (d. ca. 1453)
> 3. Sir Henry Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 1476); m. Elizabeth Herbert
> 4. Thomas Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 8.IX.1480); m. Janet Mathew
> 5. Sir Edward Stradling (d. 8.V.1535); m. Elizabeth Arundell of Lanherne (d. 20.II.1513)
> 6. Jane Stradling (20.II.1505-1555); m. Alexander Popham of Huntworth (d. 11.VI.1556)
> 7. Katherine Popham (d. 9.XI.1588); m. 3.II.1558 (his 2nd) William Pole [or Poole] of Shute, Devonshire (31.VII.1515-15.VIII.1587)
> 8. Sir William Pole of Colcombe (27.VIII.1561-9.II.1635/6) [the antiquary - see ODNB]; m. (1) 30.VII.1583 Mary Periam (30.IV.1567-2.V.1605)
> 9. Eleanor Pole (bap. 22.V.1597, bur. 7.IV.1676); m. Anthony Floyer of Floyers Hayes and of Berne, Dorsetshire (bur. 2.XI.1671)
> 10. William Floyer of Berne, Dorset (d. 7.I.1680/1); m. (1) 22.V.1641 Margaret Lawrence of Creech Grange
> 11. Anthony Floyer of Abbot's Wooton, Dorset (living 1682); m. settlement 21.IX.1664 Sarah Gould of Upway, Dorset (living 1728)
> 12. Rev. William Floyer, rector of Trusham (b. 1676, bur. 1.IX.1742); m. Sarah Burwell
> 13. Margaret Floyer (1722-1806); m. 12.II.1743 James Cornish (bap. 2.I.1720, d. 18.X.1785)
> 14. Philip Cornish (bap. 1.III.1753); m. Mary Mackenzie of Clarendon, Jamaica
> 15. Elizabeth Rhodes Cornish (d. 16.XII.1842); m. 16.XI.1795 Col. John Hill of Hawkestone [grandparents of Mary Rhoda Hill]
>
> The families of Floyer and Cornish are covered in various editions of Burke's LG.

Thanks for posting this. I didn't have any information on Philip Cornish other than his father's name.

I'm posting several additional EIII lines for Mary Rhoda (Hill) Meyrick, all through her maternal grandmother Frances Maria (Gore) Bringhurst, who descended from the Beauforts.

Gawin

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LINE A

Generations 1-13 from Leo’s Genealogics:
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00000811&tree=LEO

A1) Edward III (1312-1377), m. Philippa of HaInault (d. 1369)

A2) John Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399), m. (3) 1396 Catherine (Roet) Sywnford (1350-1403)

A3) John Beaufort 1st Earl of Somerset (c1371-1409/10), m. 1397 Lady Margaret Holland (d. 1439) dau of Thomas Holland 2nd Earl of Kent

See also:
Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 65.

A4) Edmund Beaufort Duke of Somerset K.G. (1406-1455), m. c1431 Lady Eleanor Beauchamp (1408-1468), widow of Thomas Ros 8th Lord Ros and dau of Richard Beauchamp 5th Earl of Warwick

A5) Lady Eleanor Beaufort, m. (2) Sir Robert Spencer (1430-1510)

A6) Margaret Spencer, m. Thomas Cary of Moulsford

A7) William Carey (c1495-1528), m. Mary Boleyn (d. 1543)

A8) Catherine Carey (c1524-1569), m. Sir Francis Knollys (d. 1596)

A9) Catherine Knollys (1559-1632), m. (2) Sir Philip Butler/Boteler of Watton Woodhall (d. 1592)

See also:
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/butler-%28boteler%29-sir-philip-1592

A10) Sir John Boteler of Watton Woodhall, Herts K. B. M. P. (1587-1653), m. Ann Spencer (d. 1638) dau of Sir Richard Spencer of Offley, Herts

See also:
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/boteler-john-1587-1653

A11) Katherine Boteler (1625-1698), m. c1642 Sir John Gore of Saccombe, Herts M. P. (1621-1697)

See also:
(a) https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1660-1690/member/gore-sir-john-1621-97

(b) Will, Katherine Gore widow & relict of Sir John Gore late of Red Lyon Street, co. Middlesex Knight lately decd, 16 April 1698, proved 16 September; PROB 11/447; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She left bequests to several relatives including her son Ralph Gore and asked “to be buried in the chancel of the parish church of Watton Stone in the County of Hertford by late said husband Sir John Gore.”

A12) Ralph Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny (c1653-1721), m. Hannah Gore (alive 1720) (see B13]

See also:
(a) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), pp. 129-30 (William Gore); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA129 >.

(b) Will of Ralph Gore of Barrowmount in the County of Kilkenny, Esqr, 24 January 1720, proved 30 May 1730; PROB 11/637; digital image, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names several relatives including his wife Hannah Gore, child William Gore (under 21), and brother-in-law Sir Ralph Gore, Baronet.

A13) William Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny M. P. (d. 1747/8), m. 1722 Dorothy Manley (alive 1747/8), dau of Isaac Manley Postmaster-General of Ireland

See also:
(a) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), pp. 129-30 (William Gore); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA129 >.

(b) Marriage license, 20 March 1722, for William Gore (parish of St. Marys, Dublin) and Dorothea Manley (parish of St. Andrews, Dublin); Betham's Genealogical Abstracts from Prerogative Marriage Licenses, 1629-1810; digital image, “Betham Prerogative Marriage Licences Abstracts, 1629-1810,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(c) Abstract of will, Will. Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny, 12 January 1747, proved 11 December 1750; Genealogical Abstracts of Records of the Prerogative Court of Armagh; digital image, “Betham Genealogical Abstracts,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. He names his wife Dorothy and several children including his eldest son Ralph.

A14) Ralph Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny M. P. (d. 1778), m. 1748 Elizabeth Gorges (c1717-1814) [see N16]

Sources:
(a) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), p. 140 (Ralph Gore); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA140 >.
(b) Marriage license, 13 April 1748, for Ralph Gore (parish of Grange Silver co. Kilkenny) and Elizabeth Gorges (parish of St. Peters Dublin); Betham's Genealogical Abstracts from Prerogative Marriage Licenses, 1629-1810; digital image, “Betham Prerogative Marriage Licences Abstracts, 1629-1810,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(b) Death notice for Ralph Gore, Finn’s Leinster Journal (Kilkenny), March 7, 1778, p. 2, col. 4; digital image, Irish Newspaper Archives < www.irishnewsarchive.com >. “KILKENNY, March 7. On Wednesday evening died in Dublin, Ralph Gore of Barrowmount, in the county of Kilkenny, Esq; one of the Representatives in Parliament and an Alderman of this City. Affection to his family, hospitality, and sincerity to his friends, and charity to the poor, formed his private character. A uniform opposition in the Senate to every measure could tend to the injury of the constitution, the honour or resources of this kingdom, and an inclination to suppress all riotous or villainous proceddings, conspicuously proved him a real patriot and an active magistrate. No man in life could be more universally esteemed, and his death is now as universally lamented.”

(c) Abstract of will, Ralph Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny, dated 4 March 1778, proved 4 July; Betham's Genealogical Abstracts Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) G. 1765-1779; digital image, “Betham Genealogical Abstracts,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. His will mentions his wife Elizabeth Gore, daughter Dame Francess Jane Gorges Morres, and brother John Gore.

(d) Will of Elizabeth Gore of No. 35 Baker Street, parish of Saint Marylebone, co. Middlesex, 23 February 1813, proved 10 January 1815; PROB 11/1564; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She left legacies to her daughter Dame Frances Jane Gorges Morres Gore and several grandchildren and asked that her “body be interred by the remains of my late honored father Henry Gorges in our family burying vault in St. Pauls Church, London.”

(e) Death notice for Mrs. Elizabeth Gore, The European Magazine, Vol. 66, Dec. 1814, p. 559; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=lyEYAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA3-PA559 >. “DEC. 11. At her daughter’s (Lady Morris Gore) in Baker-street, in her 100th year, Mrs. Elizabeth Gore, relict of the late Ralph Gore, Esq. of Barrow Mount, Kilkenny, Ireland. She was the daughter and heiress of Henry Gorges, Esq., of Somerset, Londonderry.”

(f) Burial record, 17 December 1814, for Mrs. Elizth Gore, abode Barrowmount, County of Kilkenny, Ireland, age from 97 to 100 years; St. Paul’s Cathedral, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

A15) Frances Jane Gorges Gore (c1758-1829), m. (2) 1778 William Gore of Woodford, co. Leitrim M.P. (1744-1815)

Sources:
(a) Marriage notice for William Gore and Lady Morres, Finn’s Leinster Journal (Kilkenny), April 15-18, 1778, p. 3, col. 2; digital image, Irish Newspaper Archives < www.irishnewsarchive.com >. “William Gore of Woodland, in the county of Leitrim, Esq; to Lady Morres, relict of the late Sir Haydocke Morres, Bart., of Kilcreen, in the County of Kilkenny.”

(b) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), p. 140 (Ralph Gore); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA140 >.

(c) Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, Privy Council, and Order of Precedence, 99th ed. (1949), p. 951 (Harlech); digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse/page/952 >.

(d) Death notice for Lady Morres Gore, The Morning Post (London), May 2, 1829, p. 4, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On Monday, the 20th ult. at Paris, Lady Morres Gore, relict of William Gore, Esq. and mother of Wm. Ormsby Gore, Esq. of Porkington, Salop.”

(e) Burial record, 23 April 1829, for Lady Morres Gore, age 71; City of Paris and Its Environs; digital image, “UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969,” Ancestry < www.ancesry.com >.

(f) Will, Frances Morres Gore, of Chester Street, Parish of St. Georges Hanover Square, widow of William Gore Esquire of Baker Street, 24 June 1829, proved 24 June 1829; PROB 11/1757; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She made bequests to several children and grandchildren including her son William Ormsby Gore and granddaughter Maria Jane Bringhurst. She also mentioned her mother Mrs. Elizabeth Gore.

Sources for her 1st marriage to Sir Haydock Evans Morres, 2nd Bt.:
(a) Marriage notice for Haydocke Evans Morres and Miss Gore, The Leinster Journal, July 18-22, 1772, p. 2, col. 2; digital image, Irish Newspaper Archive; < archive.irishnewsarchive.com >. “Last Saturday was married at Barrowmount, Haydocke Evans Morres, Esq; Representative in Parliament for this city [Kilkenny], to Miss Gore, only daughter of Ralph Gore, of Barrowmount, Esq; whose many graceful accomplishments, joined to a most amiable disposition, give a pleasing hope as well to do honour to the state of Matrimony, as to secure its felicity.”

(b) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), p. 162 (Haydocke Evans Morres); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA79 >.

(c) The Complete Baronetage, Vol. 5, p. 359 [Morres]; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/completebaroneta05coka/page/358 >.


A16) Frances Maria Gore (d. 1828), m. 1811 Major John Dorset Bringhurst, of Woodstone, co. Huntingdon, King’s Dragoon Guards (c1785-1815).

Sources:
(a) Marriage record, 29 April 1811, for John Dorset Bringhurst and Frances Maria Gore (both of this parish); St. Marylebone, Westminster; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Marriage notice for John Dorset Bringhurst and Frances Maria Gore, The Courier (London), May 2, 1811, p. 4, col. 3; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On Monday last, John Dorset Bringhurst, Esq. of the King’s Dragoon Guards, and Aid-de-Camp to Major-Gen. Fane, to Frances Maria, daughter to William Gore, Esq. and Lady Morres Gore.”

(c) Death notice for Frances Bringhurst, The Northampton Mercury, October 4, 1828, p. 3, col. 5; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On the 27th ultimo, at Brighton, Frances, the widow of the late Major John Dorset Bringhurst, of the King’s Dragoon Guards, who fell at the head of his troop at Waterloo, only son of the Rev. John Bringhurst, of Woodstone, near Peterborough.”

(d) Burial record, 4 October 1828, for Frances Maria Bringhurst, abode Brighton, Sussex; St. Mary Parish, Paddington Green, Westminster; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, 4th ed. (1862), Part 1, p. 571 (Gore of Porkington); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=BSkAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA571 >

A17) Maria Jane Bringhurst (1812-1880), m. 1835 Lt-Col Richard Hill of Aston Hall (1804-1890)

Sources:
(a) Baptismal record, 6 July 1812, for Maria Jane Bringhurst, born 14 June, daughter of John Dorset Bringhurst and Frances Maria, his wife; St. Marylebone Parish, Westminster; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She was baptized by Rev. J Bringhurst, her grandfather.

(b) Marriage record, 3 April 1835, for Richard Frederick Hill (of the parish of Paddington, co. Middlesex) and Maria Jane Bringhurst (of the District-Rectory of All Souls in the parish of St. Marylebone, co. Middlesex); Langham, Westminster; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Marriage notice for Frederick Hill and Maria Jane Bringhurst, North Wales Chronicle, and General Advertiser, p. 3, col. 6; digital image, “Welsh Newspapers Online,” The National Library of Wales < newspapers.library.wales/view/4460085/4460088/23/bringhurst >. “On the 3d inst. by the Very Rev. the Dean of Chichester, at the Church of All Souls, Marylebone, Major Frederick Hill, of the 53rd Regiment (brother of Sir Rowland Hill, Bart. M.P. and nephew of General Lord Hill), to Maria Jane, only daughter of the late Major J. D. Bringhurst, King’s Dragoon Guards, and niece of William Ormsby Gore, Esq., M.P.”

(d) Death notice for Maria Jane Hill, Eddowes’s Shrewsbury Journal, and Salopian Journal, October 20, 1880,, p. 10, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “October 13, aged 68, at the Hall, Prees, in this county, Maria Jane Hill, wife of Colonel Frederick Hill, and niece of the late William Ormsby Gore, Esq., M.P., of Porkington, Oswestry.”

(e) Burial record, 19 October 1880, for Maria Jane Hill, abode Hall, aged 68 years; Prees Parish, co. Salop; digital image, “Shropshire Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

A18) Mary Rhoda Hill (1838-1924), m. 1860 Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton) KCB, 1st Bt.

Sources:
(a) Debrett’s Genealogical Peerage of Great Britain and Ireland (1847), p. 400 [Hill]; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=m19HAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA400 >

(b) Death notice for Lady Meyrick, Birmingham Gazette, October 6, 1924, p. 5, col. 5; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “The death occurred at Apley Castle, Wellington, on Saturday, at the age of 86, of Lady Meyrick, widow of Sir Thomas Meyrick.”
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LINE B

A3) John Beaufort 1st Earl of Somerset (c1371-1409/10), m. 1397 Lady Margaret Holland (d. 1439) dau of Thomas Holland 2nd Earl of Kent.

B4) Joan Beaufort (d. 1445), m. (1) 1423/4 James I King of Scotland (1394-1436/7)

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 18-19
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/18

(b) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, pp. 36, 71.

B5) James II (1430-1460), m. 1449 Marie (1433-1463) dau of Arnold Duke of Guelders

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 20-21
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/20

(b) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, pp. 38-39.

B6) Mary of Scotland (1451-1488), m. (2) 1473/4 James Hamilton 1st Lord Hamilton (c1415-1479)

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 20
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/20

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 349-53 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n372

(c) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 35.

B7) James Hamilton 1st Earl of Arran (c1475-1529), m. (2) 1516 Janet (d. c1522), widow of Sir Robert Livingston of Easter Wemyss & dau of Sir David Beaton of Creich

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 1, pp. 220-21 [Arran]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo01coka/page/220

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 355-60 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n378

B8) James Hamilton 2nd Earl of Arran, Governor of Scotland (d. 1574/5), m. 1532 Lady Margaret Douglas (alive 1579) [see C8]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 9, p. 287 [Morton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4496737

(b) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 1, pp. 221-22 [Arran]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo01coka/page/220

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 360 [Morton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/360

(d) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 366-368 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n388

B9) Claud Hamilton 1st Lord Paisley (c1546-1621), m. 1574 Margaret Seton (d. 1615/6) [see E10]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 10, pp. 289-92 [Paisley]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3867199

(b) The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 37-39 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/38

(c) The Scots Peerage, Volume 9, p. 2 [Additions et Corrigenda]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4496737

B10) Sir Frederick Hamilton (d. 1646/7), m. (1) Sidney dau & heir of Sir John Vaughan Governor of Londonderry

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 43-45 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/44

B11) James Hamilton of Manor Hamilton, co. Leitrim (d. 1652), m. 1647/8 Catherine Hamilton [see F12]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 44 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/46

B12) Hannah Hamilton (1651-1733), m. Sir William Gore 3rd Baronet of Manor Gore, co. Donegal (d. c1703)

Sources:
(a) The Complete Baronetage, Vol. 1, p. 234
https://archive.org/details/completebaroneta01coka/page/234

(b) The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 44 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/46

B13) Hannah Gore, m. Ralph Gore of Barrowmount, co. Kilkenny (d. 1720) [see A12]
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LINE C

B4) Joan Beaufort (d. 1445), m. (1) 1423/4 James I King of Scotland (1394-1436/7)

C5) Joan of Scotland (c1428-alive 1486), m. 1458/9, James Douglas 1st Earl of Morton (d. 1493)

Sources:

(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 9, pp. 286-88 [Morton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4496737

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, pp. 354-56 [Morton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/354

C6) John Douglas 2nd Earl of Morton (before 1466-between 1511-15), m. before 1493 Janet dau of Patrick Crichton of Cranston-Riddel (alive 1513)

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 9, p. 288
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4496737

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, pp. 356-58 [Morton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/356

C7) James Douglas 3rd Earl of Morton (d. 1548), m. Catherine Stewart (alive 1554) [see D7]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 9, p. 289 [Morton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4496737

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 22
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/22

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, pp. 358-61 [Morton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/358


C8) Lady Margaret Douglas (alive 1579), m. 1532 James Hamilton 2nd Earl of Arran [see B8]
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LINE D

D6) James IV (1472/3-1513) & Margaret Boyd of Bonshaw

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 21-23
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/20

(b) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 12.

D7) Catherine Stewart (alive 1554), m. James Douglas 3rd Earl of Morton (d. 1548) [see C7]
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LINE E

C5) Joan of Scotland (c1428-alive 1486), m. 1458/9, James Douglas 1st Earl of Morton (d. 1493)

E6) Lady Janet Douglas (d. before 1490/1), m. before 1480/1 Patrick Hepburn 1st Earl of Bothwell (d. 1508)

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 2, pp. 237-38 [Bothwell]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo02coka/page/236

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 2, pp. 151-52 [Bothwell]
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_ELEEAAAAIAAJ/page/n165

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 356 [Morton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/356

E7) Lady Janet Hepburn (alive 1558), m. George Seton, 3rd Lord Seton (d. 1513)

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 11, p. 634-35 [Seton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3729993

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 2, pp. 152 [Bothwell]
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_ELEEAAAAIAAJ/page/n167

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 8, pp. 580-81 [Winton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun08paul/page/580

E8) George Seton, 4th Lord Seton (d. 1549), m. (1) 1527 Elizabeth Hay (d. before 1538/9) dau of John Hay 3rd Lord Hay of Yester

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 11, p. 635 [Seton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3729993

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 8, pp. 581-83 [Winton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun08paul/page/580

E9) George Seton, 5th Lord Seton (1531-1585/6), m. 1550 Isabel Hamilton (c1529-1604) dau of Sir William Hamilton of Sanquhar

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 11, pp. 635-36 [Seton]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3729993

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 8, pp. 585-88 [Winton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun08paul/page/584

E10) Margaret Seton (d. 1616), m. 1574 Claud Hamilton 1st Lord Paisley [see B9]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 8, p. 590 [Winton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun08paul/page/590
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LINE F

B9) Claud Hamilton 1st Lord Paisley (c1546-1621), m. 1574 Margaret Seton (d. 1615/6)

F10) James Hamilton 1st Earl of Abercorn (c1575-1618), m. Marion Boyd (d. 1632) [see G11]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 1, pp. 2-3 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo01coka/page/2

(b) The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 46-47 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/48

F11) Claud Hamilton 2nd Lord Strabane (c1606-1638), m.1632 Lady Jean Gordon (alive 1668) [see I11]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Revised, Vol. 12, Part 1, pp. 318-19
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE6044184

(b) The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, pp. 49-50 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/50

F12) Catherine Hamilton, m. (1) James Hamilton [see B11]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Volume 1, p. 50 [Abercorn]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/52
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LINE G

B6) Mary of Scotland (1451-1488), m. (2) 1473/4 James Hamilton 1st Lord Hamilton (c1415-1479)

G7) Elizabeth Hamilton (alive 1531), m. 1494 Matthew Stewart 2nd Earl of Lennox (c1465-1513)

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 351 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n372

(b) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 7, p. 596 [Lennox]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3998193

(c) The Scots Peerage, vol. 4, p. 353 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n376

(d) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 20.

G8) Elizabeth Stewart, m. Sir Hugh Campbell of Loudon (1502-1560/1)

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 351 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n372

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 495-96 [Loudon] – calls her Margaret
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n518

G9) Sir Matthew Campbell of Loudon (alive 1593), m. Isabel Drummond (alive 1546) [see H8]

Sources
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, pp. 496-97 [Loudon]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n520

G10) [perhaps] Margaret Campbell (alive 1568) [Kilmarnock says said to be dau], m. Thomas Boyd 6th Lord Boyd (c1547-1611)

Sources:
(a) She isn’t mentioned as a child of Sir Matthew in the Scots Peerage Loudon article on p. 497

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, pp. 163-66 [Kilmarnock] - says "said" to be dau of Sir Matthew
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n176

(c) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 2, pp. 261-62 [Boyd] -says she was dau of Sir Matthew & Isabel Drummond
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo02coka/page/260

G11) Marion Boyd (d. 1632), m. James Hamilton 1st Earl of Abercorn [see F10]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 166 [Kilmarnock]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n180
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LINE H

D6) James IV & Margaret Drummond (d. 1502) dau of John Drummond 1st Lord Drummond

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 7, p. 44 [Perth]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun07paul/page/44

H7) Margaret Stewart (b. c1497), m. (1) 1512 John Gordon (d. 1517) [see I7] and (2) 1530/1 Sir John Drummond, 2nd of Innerpeffray

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 21
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/22

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 7, p. 44 [Perth]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun07paul/page/44

(c) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 678 [Huntly]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337


H8) Isabel Drummond (alive 1546), m. Sir Matthew Campbell of Loudon [see G9]
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LINE I

B4) Joan Beaufort (d. 1445), m. (2) 1439 Sir James Stewart of Lorn (alive 1451)

Source:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 440-41 [Atholl]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/464

(b) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 36.

I5) John Stewart 1st Earl of Atholl (c1440-1512), m. (1) 1459/60 Lady Margaret Douglas (d. in/by 1475) widow of William Douglas 8th Earl of Douglas & dau of Archibald Douglas 5th Earl of Douglas

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 1, pp. 312-13 [Atholl]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo01coka/page/312

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 441 [Atholl]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/464

(c) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 20.

I6) Lady Janet/Jean Stewart (d. 1510), m. (contract 1474) Alexander Gordon 3rd Earl of Huntly (d. 1523/4)

SourcesL
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 677 [Huntly] -names her mother
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 442 [Atholl] -doesn’t state which wife was her mother
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/466

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 531-32 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n560

I7) John Gordon, styled Lord Gordon (d. 1517), m. 1512 Margaret Stewart [see H7]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 678 [Huntly]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 532-33 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n560

I8) George Gordon 4th Earl of Huntly (1513-1562), m. 1530 Elizabeth Keith [see J8]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, pp. 678-79 [Huntly]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 534-36 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n562

I9) George Gordon 5th Earl of Huntly (d. 1576), m. 1558 Lady Anne Hamilton (alive 1574) [see K9]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 679 [Huntly]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 539-41 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n568

(c) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, p. 370 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n392

I10) George Gordon 1st Marquess of Huntly (c1563-1636), m. 1588, Lady Henrietta Stuart (1573-1641) [see L11]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 680 [Huntly]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, pp. 541-44 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n570

I11) Lady Jean Gordon, m. (1) 1632 Claud Hamilton 2nd Lord Strabane [see F11]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, p. 545 [Huntly]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n574
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LINE J

C6) John Douglas 2nd Earl of Morton, m. Janet Crichton

J7) Lady Elizabeth otherwise Beatrice Douglas (alive 1527) m. 1505/6, Robert Keith styled Lord Keith & Master of Marischal (d. 1524/5)

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peeerage, Vol. 6, p. 358 [Morton] -Beatrice also called Elizabeth
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/358

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 43 [Marischal] - calls her Elizabeth or Beatrice
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/42

(c) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 8, p. 477 [Marischal]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3867196

J8) Elizabeth Keith, m. George Gordon 4th Earl of Huntly [see I8]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 6, p. 43 [Marischal]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/42
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LINE K

B8) James Hamilton 2nd Earl of Arran, m. Lady Margaret Douglas

K9) Lady Anne Hamilton (alive 1574), m. 1558 George Gordon 5th Earl of Huntly (see I9)

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 4, p. 370 [Hamilton]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00paulgoog/page/n392
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LINE L

G7) Elizabeth Hamilton, m. Matthew Stewart 2nd Earl of Lennox

L8) John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Lennox (c1495-1526), m. 1511/2 Lady Elizabeth Stewart (alive 1529) [see M6]

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 7, pp. 596-97 [Lennox]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3998193

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, pp. 351-52 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n372

(c) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 11.

L9) John Stuart, 5th Seigneur d’Aubigny (d. 1567), m. c1542, Anne de la Queulle (will 1579) dau & coheir of François de la Queulle, Seigneur de la Queulle

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 352 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n374

L10) Esme Stuart 1st Duke of Lennox (c1542-1583), m. 1572, Katherine de Balsac (alive 1632), dau of Guillaume de Balsac, Seigneur d'Entragues

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 7, pp. 602-04 [Lennox]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3998193

(b) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 356 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n378

L11) Lady Henrietta Stuart (1573-1632), m. 1588 George Gordon 1st Marquess of Huntly [see I10]

Source:
The Scots Peerage, Vol. 5, p. 356 [Lennox]
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefou00unkngoog/page/n378
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LINE M

I5) John Stewart 1st Earl of Atholl, m. (2) c1475 Eleanor (d. 1518/9) dau of William Sinclair 1st Earl of Caithness

Sources:
(a) The Complete Peerage, new ed., Vol. 1, pp. 312-13 [Atholl]
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo01coka/page/312

(b) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, pp. 20-21.


M6) Lady Elizabeth Stewart (alive 1529), m. (1) 1511/2 John Stewart 3rd Earl of Lennox [see L8]

Sources:
(a) The Scots Peerage, Vol. 1, pp. 442 [Atholl] - doesn’t state which wife was her mother
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/466

(b) The Complete Peerage, Vol. 7, p. 597 [Lennox] – says she was da. of Lady Eleanor Sinclair
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE3998193

(c) Neil D. Thompson & Charles M. Hansen, The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage [Twelve Generations], 2012, p. 11.

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Generations 1-14 from Leo's Genealogics:
http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00000811&tree=LEO

A2) John Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399), m. (3) 1396 Catherine (Roet) Sywnford (1350-1403)

N3) Joan Beaufort (1379-1440), m. (1) Sir Robert Ferrers (d. 1396)

See also:
The Complete Peerage, New ed., Vol. 2, p. 233 (Boteler) & note a
https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo02coka/page/232

N4) Elizabeth Ferrers (c1392/3-1434), m. 1407 John Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke (c1389-1436)

See also:
The Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, new ed., pp. 196-97 [Greystoke]
https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE4754337

N5) Joan Greystoke (c1409-after 1472), m. (1) John Darcy of Temple Hurst (c1404-1458)

N6) Joan Darcy (b. c1435), m. John Beaumont of Cole Orton, Leics (1428-1461)

N7) George Beaumont of Cole Orton (c1453-1531), m. Jane/Joan dau of Thomas Pauncefote of Hasfield

N8) William Beaumont of Cole Orton Hall (c1475-c1528/9), m. Mary (d. 1539) dau of William Basset of Blore

N9) Cecily Beaumont, m. Henry Fenton of Stretton-le-Steeple, Notts

See also:
George William Marshall, ed., The Visitations of the County of Nottingham in the Years 1569 and 1614: With Many Other Descents of the Same County, Publication of the Harleian Society, Vol. 4 (1876), p. 34 [Fenton]; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationsofcou04flow/page/34 >.

N10) Catherine Fenton, m. James Parsons

N11) Sir William Parsons 1st Baronet (c1570-1650), m. Elizabeth (d. 1640) dau of John Lany Alderman of Dublin

See also:
Complete Baronetage, Vol. 1, p. 226
https://archive.org/details/completebaroneta01coka/page/226

N12) Mary Parsons, m. Arthur Hill of Hillsborough M.P. (d. 1663)

N13) Penelope Hill, m. 1666 Hon. Colonel Richard Coote of Tullamaine, co. Kilkenny M. P. (1643-after 1695)

See also:
(a) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), pp. 78-79 (Hon. Colonel Richard Coote); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA78 >.

(b) Bernard Burke & Ashworth P. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage and Companionage, 76th ed. (1914), p. 495 (Coote); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=RVggAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA495 >.

N14) Jane Coote (d. 1729), m. (2) Col. Henry Gorges of Somerset, co. Londonderry (1667-1696)

Sources:
(a) Bernard Burke & Ashworth P. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage and Companionage, 76th ed. (1914), p. 495 (Coote); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=RVggAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA495 >.

(b) The Complete Baronetage, Vol. 4, pp. 218-19 [Evans]
https://archive.org/details/completebaroneta04coka/page/218

(c) Raymond Gorges, The Story of a Family through Eleven Centuries… (1944), p. 214; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015082619563;view=1up;seq=314 >.


N15) Henry Gorges of Somerset (d. 1726/7), m. 1716 Frances Ball (d. 1740) [see O15]

Sources:
(a) Raymond Gorges, The Story of a Family through Eleven Centuries… (1944), p. 214; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015082619563;view=1up;seq=314 >.

(b) William Ball Wright, Genealogical Memoirs of Some Ball Families of Great Britain, Ireland and, America, 2nd ed. (1908), pp. 76-77; digital images, “Ball Family Records,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. “In his [John Ball] will, dated 6th February, 1704 pr. In the Prerog. Court, 1705, he made his brother Abraham Executor; he bequeathed his effects to his son, John Ball, Jun., and to Frances Ball, his daughter, if John had no male issue. After Frances’s death her male issue in that case was to change the name to Ball. John’s daughter, Frances Ball, on 7th Oct., 1716, married Henry Gorges, of Coleraine, who died Feby., 1726. She died 1748, leaving two daughters: - I, Elizabeth, born in 1717, who married 7th May 1748, Ralph Gore, of Barrowmount, M.P. for Kilkenny, and died 11 Decr., 1714 [sic], in her 98th year. 2, Jane, d.s.p.”

(c) Marriage license bond, 1716, for Henry Gorges and Frances Ball; Diocese of Ossory; digital image, “Diocesan and Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds Indexes, 1623 – 1866,” The National Archives of Ireland < census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246537_00287.pdf >.

(d) Will, Henry Gorges Esq of Summerseat, County of Londonderry, 15 December 1726, proved 25 April 1729; Prerogative Court of Armagh; digital images, “Prerogative and Diocesan Copies of Some Wills and Indexes to Others, 1596 – 1858,” National Archives of Ireland < census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dw/details.jsp?id=183170 >. He names his wife Frances Gorges als Ball (appointed executor) and his daughters Elizabeth Gorges and Jane Gorges.

(e) Administration, Frances Gorges of Dublin, Widow, granted 14 March 1740 to Elizabeth Gorges, daughter; Genealogical Abstracts of Records of the Prerogative Court of Armagh; digital image, “Betham Genealogical Abstracts,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

N16) Elizabeth Gorges (c1717-1814), m. 1748 Ralph Gore [see A14]
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N13) Penelope Hill, m. 1666 Hon. Colonel Richard Coote of Tullamaine, co. Kilkenny M. P.

O14) Elizabeth Coote, m. 1700 John Ball, of Loughross, co. Armagh (d. 1704/5)

Sources:
(a) Bernard Burke & Ashworth P. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage and Companionage, 76th ed. (1914), p. 495 (Coote); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=RVggAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA495 >.

(b) William Ball Wright, Genealogical Memoirs of Some Ball Families of Great Britain, Ireland and, America, 2nd ed. (1908), pp. 76-77; digital images, “Ball Family Records,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. “John Ball married in that year [1700] Elizabeth Coote, one of the five daughters and co-heiresses of Hon. Richard Coote, of Tullaghmain, Co. Kilkenny, by whom he had issue one son, John, and a daughter, Frances. In his [John Ball] will, dated 6th February, 1704 pr. In the Prerog. Court, 1705, he made his brother Abraham Executor; he bequeathed his effects to his son, John Ball, Jun., and to Frances Ball, his daughter, if John had no male issue. After Frances’s death her male issue in that case was to change the name to Ball. John’s daughter, Frances Ball, on 7th Oct., 1716, married Henry Gorges, of Coleraine, who died Feby., 1726. She died 1748, leaving two daughters: - I, Elizabeth, born in 1717, who married 7th May 1748, Ralph Gore, of Barrowmount, M.P. for Kilkenny, and died 11 Decr., 1714 [sic], in her 98th year. 2, Jane, d.s.p.”

015) Frances Ball (d. 1740), m. 1716 Henry Gorges [see N15]

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(d) Will, Henry Gorges Esq of Summerseat, County of Londonderry, 15 December 1726, proved 25 April 1729; Prerogative Court of Armagh; digital images, “Prerogative and Diocesan Copies of Some Wills and Indexes to Others, 1596 – 1858,” National Archives of Ireland < census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dw/details.jsp?id=183170 >. He names his wife Frances Gorges als Ball (appointed executor) and his daughters Elizabeth Gorges and Jane Gorges.

(e) Administration, Frances Gorges of Dublin, Widow, granted 14 March 1740 to Elizabeth Gorges, daughter; Genealogical Abstracts of Records of the Prerogative Court of Armagh; digital image, “Betham Genealogical Abstracts,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

N16) Elizabeth Gorges (c1717-1814), m. 1748 Ralph Gore [see A14]
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On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-5, Royal Ancestry wrote:
> As far as I could find, Griffith Thomas and Sarah had 9 children, who were baptised in St Botolph's Aldgate, London (they could be Griffith Thomas and Sarah Jones, who married on 14 April 1799, in Shoreditch):
>
> - Griffith Thomas (1808-?), who was probably father of Henry Brockholes Thomas (1842-1901)
> - Ann Thomas (1809-?)
> - Sarah Thomas (1811-?)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1813-1814)
> - Henry Brockholes Thomas (1814-?)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1816-1817)
> - William Lynall Thomas (1819-)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1823-?)
> - Catherine Elizabeth Thomas (1825-?)
>
> This could be the right family, taking into account that Henry Brockholes Thomas had a daughter named Hazel Lynall Thomas (1883-1968).

You have the right family. Henry Brockholes Thomas was the son of Griffith Thomas (1808-1888) and Martha Woolley (1809-1891) and the grandson of Griffith Thomas (1777-1844) and Sarah Brockholes (1779-after 1851).

Sarah Brockholes was the daughter of Robert Brockholes (1748-1823) and Sarah Lynall who lived in the Minories, London & Chigwell, Essex. Robert was the son of another Robert Brockholes of the Parish of Aldgate, co. Middlesex (1715-1789). Based on FamilySearch baptismal entries it appears this Robert was the son of Henry Brockholes.

Gawin

[taf]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:57:27 AM UTC-7, Royal Ancestry wrote:
> As far as I could find, Griffith Thomas and Sarah had 9 children, who were baptised in St Botolph's Aldgate, London (they could be Griffith Thomas and Sarah Jones, who married on 14 April 1799, in Shoreditch):
>
> - Griffith Thomas (1808-?), who was probably father of Henry Brockholes Thomas (1842-1901)
> - Ann Thomas (1809-?)
> - Sarah Thomas (1811-?)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1813-1814)
> - Henry Brockholes Thomas (1814-?)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1816-1817)
> - William Lynall Thomas (1819-)
> - Robert Brockholes Thomas (1823-?)
> - Catherine Elizabeth Thomas (1825-?)
>
> This could be the right family, taking into account that Henry Brockholes Thomas had a daughter named Hazel Lynall Thomas (1883-1968).

Certainly the right family (but I don't think the right Griffith/Sarah marriage). In 1861 at Kensington, Thomas Griffith (sic), solicitor, father of Henry, gives his birthplace as Aldgate, City of London, and his age puts the birth in 1808/9. 1871 (Kensington) Griffith Thomas, solicitor, simply is given as b. London (same age). In 1881 at Egham, Surrey, Grifith Thomas, solicitor, says St Botolph, Aldgate, and again a birth 1808/9.

The correct marriage is certainly 22 Sep. 1804, St. Dunstan, Stepney, of Griffith Thomas of St. Botolph, bachelor, to Sarah Brockhols of St. Dunstan, witnessed by Robert and Ann Brockhols. There was a Sarah Brockhole bap 22 February 1778, St. Botolph Aldgate, daughter of Jacob and Jane, but I would like more than just the coincidence of name before drawing the connection.

The father seems likely the Griffith, son of Griffith and Eleanor (sic), b. 1808 in The Minories, granted liberty of the city by patrimony in the Company of Glovers in 1833, his father having been admitted as Freeman in 1801. (It may seem odd for a solicitor to be a member of the Glover's Company, but membership in the livery companies had become an important social distinction, divorced of actual occupation, and indeed the elder Griffith was a woollendraper living at 11 The Minories in directories from the mid-1800s to at least 1830.) In turn, he is certainly the Griffith, son of Griffith late of The Minories who for 1p apprenticed himself to William Griffith, Citizen and Glover (who was a woollendraper) , in 1792 (his brother William Griffith was apprenticed 1791 to John Young, Citizen & Carpenter). If you ballpark this apprentice's age at about 14, that makes him the Griffith Thomas bap 3 Aug 1777, St. Botolph, son of Griffith & Catherine. They would be the Griffith Thomas ae 21+, surgeon of Trinity Minories, London, and Catherine Coleman, age 21+, who received licence from the Diocese of London to marry at Trinity 12 Nov 1771. "Griffith Thomas, A Man" was bur. St. Botolph Aldgate 23 Jan 1780, inwhose PCC will dated 21 December 1771 and probated in February 1780, he is surgeon of the Osterley, an EIC ship, and names wife Catherine, living with her father David Coleman in the Minories, and names his brother William Thomas, woollendraper, and wife's brother David Coleman as executors.

The marriage of Griffith Thomas, son of Griffith to Martha Woolley, daughter of John at St. Nicholas, Brighton, 11 Jan 1840, is certainly the correct one. They had 4 children bapt at St. George, Camberwell. Martha's birthplace is reported as Walworth, Surrey (1861 & 1871 - none given in 1881) in or about 1818/9.

Enough for now.

taf

[taf]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-7, taf wrote:
> "Griffith Thomas, A Man" was bur. St. Botolph Aldgate 23 Jan 1780,

> in whose PCC will dated 21 December 1771 and probated in February

> 1780, he is surgeon of the Osterley, an EIC ship

Just a brief follow-up. The record of EIC vessels reports Osterley, displacing 499 tons and on its first voyage, sailing for Bencoolen (modern Bengkulu) and China 29 Dec 1771, returning 26 May 1773. It reports Griffith Thomas as surgeon.

taf

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Sarah (Brockholes) Thomas was not the daughter of Jacob and Jane. She was the daughter of Robert Brockholes who left a legacy to his daughter "Sarah Thomas wife of Griffith Thomas" in his will (Robert Brockholes of Chigwell Row, Chigwell, Essex, PROB 11/1678/277, dated 7 April 1819, codicils 20 November 1822 and 13 October 1823, proved 24 December 1823).

The death of Robert Brockholes of Chigwell on 3 December 1823 in the Minories was announced in The Gentleman's Magazine < https://books.google.com/books?id=HaVJAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA645 >.

Robert Brockholes of the Minories, age 75, was buried 13 December 1823 at St Botolph Without Aldgate.

Robert Brockholes also mentioned a son Robert in his will. In his own will Robert Jr. names his sister "Sarah Thomas wife of Griffith Thomas" (PCC 11/1738, proved 29 April 1828). Robert Jr. was also buried at St. Botolph, on 9 April 1828, age 47.

Both wills also mention Ann, wife of John Bullin, daughter of Robert Sr. and sister of Robert Jr.

St. Botolph parish records record the baptisms of Sarah (December 1779) and Robert (March 1781), and Ann (October 1783) to Robert & Sarah Brockholes.

Gawin

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Robert and Sarah Brockholes, parents of Sarah (Brockholes) Thomas, were probably the Robert Brockholes and Sarah Lynall who were married 3 December 1778 at St. Botolph Aldgate.

The will of Thomas Lynall of Mile End Road,parish of Saint Dunstan Stepney, co. Middlesex, Gentleman (late of Rosemary Lane, co. Middlesex, Salesman), mentions his wife Sarah (appointed executor), niece & nephews Mary, Thomas, George, Benjamin, and Joseph Jolland and [no relationship stated] "Sarah the wife of Griffith Thomas of the Minories London woolen draper late Sarah Brockholes Spinster," Robert Brockholes the younger, and Mary Brockholes, all "children of Robert Brockholes the Elder of Chigwell Row in the County of Sussex Gentleman." (PROB 11/1565, 11 Feb 1814 proved 14 Feb 1815).

The will of Sarah Lynall of Assembly Row Mile and Road, parish of Saint Dunstan Stepney, co. Middlesex, widow, mentions (a) her late husband Thomas (b) nephew Robert Brockholes the younger of Chigwell Row, co. Essex [appointed a co-executor] (c) Robert Brockholes the elder of Chigwell [co-executor] (d) Griffith Thomas of the Minories, London, Woollen Draper [co-executor] (e) niece Sarah "wife of the said Griffith Thomas" (f) niece Ann the wife of John Bullin late of Bishopsgate Street London silversmith. After the deaths of the two Robert Brockholes she appointed three new executors including "Griffith Thomas the younger son of Griffith Thomas." (PROB 11/1750, 24 March 1823, codicils 6 October 1823, 23 June 1825, 9 December 1825, 21 April 1828, 19 August 1828, and 14 December 1828, proved 12 January 1829.

She also asked to be buried with her husband Thomas in the parish church of Little Ilford, co. Essex. Thomas Lynall was buried there 6 February 1815, age 70, and Sarah Lynall 2 January 1828, age 78.

This places Thomas's birth around 1745. He *may* have been the Thomas Lynall bap. 1 September 1745 at St. Botolph, son of Thomas and Alice.

Thomas and Alice Lynall had other children bap. at St. Botolph including Sarah, 30 November 1742, who *may* have been Sarah (Lynall) Brockholes, although she would have been 36 years at her marriage in 1778, somewhat old.

Gawin

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On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 1:45:38 PM UTC-5, taf wrote:

According to her 1891 death announcement Martha (Woolley) Thomas died age at the age of 83, placing her birth in 1808 not 1818. See The Daily News [London] October 15, 1891, p. 1, col. 1, digital image in Findmypast. “10th Oct., at Park House, Englefield-green, Surrey, Martha, the widow of Griffith Thomas, Esq., aged 83.” According to the National Probate Calendar (available in Ancestry) administration of her estate was granted to Henry Brockholes Thomas on 17 November 1891.

This matches census records. In 1841 she was 30, born Surrey; 1851 she was 42, born Surrey; 1861 age 52 born Walworth, Surrey; 1881 age 72 no birthplace stated; and in 1891 age 83, born Walworth, Middlesex. The 1871 census incorrectly states she was age 52 but agrees with Walworth, Surrey as her birthplace.

It is known she was the daughter of John and Grace (Maude) Woolley of Beckenham Lodge, Kent (see her marriage record and John Woolley's will).

Putting all this together, she was likely the Martha, daughter of John & Grace Woolley, who was born 28 May 1808 and bap 19 July at St. Mary, Newington, Southwark, Surrey.

Gawin

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On Friday, 2 November 2018 21:57:05 UTC, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
According to the National Probate Calendar (available in Ancestry) administration of her estate was granted to Henry Brockholes Thomas on 17 November 1891.

No need to use Ancestry for this, now that the probate details are available online on a government site:

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=thomas&yearOfDeath=1891&page=26#calendar

Chris

[taf]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-7, taf wrote:

> The father seems likely the Griffith, son of Griffith and Eleanor (sic), b. 1808 in The Minories, granted liberty of the city by patrimony in the Company of Glovers in 1833, his father having been admitted as Freeman in 1801. (It may seem odd for a solicitor to be a member of the Glover's Company, but membership in the livery companies had become an important social distinction, divorced of actual occupation, and indeed the elder Griffith was a woollendraper living at 11 The Minories in directories from the mid-1800s to at least 1830.) In turn, he is certainly the Griffith, son of Griffith late of The Minories who for 1p apprenticed himself to William Griffith, Citizen and Glover (who was a woollendraper) , in 1792 (his brother William Griffith was apprenticed 1791 to John Young, Citizen & Carpenter). If you ballpark this apprentice's age at about 14, that makes him the Griffith Thomas bap 3 Aug 1777, St. Botolph, son of Griffith & Catherine. They would be the Griffith Thomas ae 21+, surgeon of Trinity Minories, London, and Catherine Coleman, age 21+, who received licence from the Diocese of London to marry at Trinity 12 Nov 1771. "Griffith Thomas, A Man" was bur. St. Botolph Aldgate 23 Jan 1780, inwhose PCC will dated 21 December 1771 and probated in February 1780, he is surgeon of the Osterley, an EIC ship, and names wife Catherine, living with her father David Coleman in the Minories, and names his brother William Thomas, woollendraper, and wife's brother David Coleman as executors.
>

I can go back another generation.

William Griffith, woollendraper, of the Minories, died testate in 1799. His will names: nephew, William Parry of Taymaisar (?), near Llangwillog (Llangwyllog), Anglesey; nieces and nephew, Catherine Thomas, Elizabeth Thomas, and William Thomas, who were living with him; and nephew Griffith Thomas, who was living with Mr.s Coleman and Weldon in Watling St. He names George Coleman of Watling St., warehouseman, executor and it was witnessed by Mary Coleman and Thomas Coleman.

The Anglesey connection is useful because there were two different Williams who became freemen from the Drapers company.

*William Thomas, son of William late of Wapping, victualler, 1760
*William Thomas, son of William of Monachdu in Anglesey, North Wales, 1766

The Anglesey connection in the will favors the latter. Monachdu is Mynachdy farm, Llanfair-yng-Nghornwy. FamilySearch has 'Llanfairynghornwy' records, but they are copied over from findmypast, hiding the father's name. There is what seems to be a single Thomas family during this period, with sons including Griffith (bap. 1737) and William (bap. 1739).


Catherine Coleman is likely the daughter of David and Elizabeth b. 8 Oct., bap. 2 Nov. 1747, St. Leonard Shoreditch.

taf

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 1:45:38 PM UTC-5, taf wrote:

Griffith Thomas, father of Henry Brockholes Thomas, was probably the Griffith Thomas, son of Griffith and Sarah of the Minories, who was born 24 April 1828 and bap 18 May at St. Botolph Aldgate.

I believe you are correct in identifying Griffith Sr. as the Griffith Thomas bap 3 Aug 1777, St. Botolph, son of Griffith & Catherine. Griffith Sr. was buried at Maker, Cornwall on 20 August 1844 as Griffith Thomas of Anderton, age 67. According to a transcription of his M.I. he died 14 August 1844 age 67. Both records result in a 1777 birth year.

FYI - I identified Griffith Thomas of Anderton, Maker, Cornwall as Griffith Sr. based on his daughter Ann's death notice, The Times (London) November 28, 1882, p. 1, col. 2: “On the 25th inst., at Park House, Englefield-green, Surrey, the residence of her brother, Griffith Thomas, ANN THOMAS, of Anderton, Maker, Cornwall, eldest daughter of Griffith Thomas, late of the same place, in her 74th year."

Ann was listed with the Griffith Thomas Jr. family in 1841 and she was also called his sister in an 1839 criminal case:
https://books.google.com/books?id=yq4DAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA562

According to the National Probate Calender her will was proved 10 February 1883 by Sarah Thomas and Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, both of Anderton House, her sisters.

St. Botolph parish records record the baptisms of Ann (1809), Sarah (1811), and Catherine Elizabeth (1825), all daughters of Griffith & Sarah Thomas of the Minories.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

> Griffith Thomas, father of Henry Brockholes Thomas, was probably the Griffith Thomas, son of Griffith and Sarah of the Minories, who was born 24 April 1828 and bap 18 May at St. Botolph Aldgate.

Oops, make that 1808 not 1828.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

> FYI - I identified Griffith Thomas of Anderton, Maker, Cornwall as Griffith Sr. based on his daughter Ann's death notice, The Times (London) November 28, 1882, p. 1, col. 2: “On the 25th inst., at Park House, Englefield-green, Surrey, the residence of her brother, Griffith Thomas, ANN THOMAS, of Anderton, Maker, Cornwall, eldest daughter of Griffith Thomas, late of the same place, in her 74th year."
>
> Ann was listed with the Griffith Thomas Jr. family in 1841 and she was also called his sister in an 1839 criminal case:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=yq4DAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA562
>
> According to the National Probate Calender her will was proved 10 February 1883 by Sarah Thomas and Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, both of Anderton House, her sisters.
>
> St. Botolph parish records record the baptisms of Ann (1809), Sarah (1811), and Catherine Elizabeth (1825), all daughters of Griffith & Sarah Thomas of the Minories.
>
> Gawin

I should also add that in 1851 eight-year old Henry B. [Brockholes] Thomas (whose ancestry we are discussing) was enumerated in the household of Ann & Sarah Thomas at Higher Anderton, Parish of Maker, Cornwall. According to the census he was their nephew.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:39:48 PM UTC-5, taf wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-7, taf wrote:

> The Anglesey connection in the will favors the latter. Monachdu is Mynachdy farm, Llanfair-yng-Nghornwy. FamilySearch has 'Llanfairynghornwy' records, but they are copied over from findmypast, hiding the father's name. There is what seems to be a single Thomas family during this period, with sons including Griffith (bap. 1737) and William (bap. 1739).

>

> taf

The father's name was William (see digital images of the parish records in Findmypast).

[taf]

This Griffith Thomas sailed repeatedly with EIC ships, and may have been friend of (eventually Captain) John Coxon, with whom he appears repeatedly:

Pacific, 499 tons, 1st voyage, to 'Coast and Bay'
sailed Portsmouth 14 April 1765
arrived Downs 17 December 1766
Captain Charles Barklay
Surgeon Griffith Thomas
Purser John Coxon

Pacific, 499 tons, 2nd voyage, to 'Coast and China'
sailed Downs 2 January 1768
arrived Downs 16 June 1769
Captain Charles Barklay
Surgeon Griffith Thomas

Bridgewater, 499 tons, 1st voyage, to 'Coast and China'
sailed Portsmouth 11 January 1770
arrived Downs 20 August 1771
Captain Nicholas Skottowe
Surgeon Griffith Thomas

Osterley, 499 tons, 1st voyage, to 'Bencoolen and China'
sailed Downs 29 December 1771
arrived Downs 26 May 1773
Captain Francis Fortescue
Surgeon Griffith Thomas

Grosvenor, 729 tons, 2nd voyage, to 'Coast and China'
sailed Downs 18 January 1775
arrived Downs 18 August 1776
Captain David Saunders
1st Mate John Coxen
Surgeon Griffith Thomas

Grosvenor, 729 tons, 3rd voyage, to 'Coast and Bay'
sailed Plymouth 9 February 1778
arrived Downs 16 November 1779
Captain John Coxen
Surgeon Griffith Thomas

Note that in 1771, he arrived back in August, married in November, wrote his will in December, and then was off again days later.

Children of Griffith and Catherine (Coleman) Thomas bap. at St. Botolph without Aldgate:
William, bap. 8 May 1774 (of 'Minories')
Catherine, bap. 9 April 1775 (of 'Minories')
Griffith, bap. 3 August 1777 (of 'Minories')
*Elizabeth b. 24 March 1780, bap. 16 April 1780 (of 'Minories')

Note on the last: Griffith must have had a bit of a surprise when he returned in November 1779 from a 21 month voyage to find his wife 5-months pregnant. He died 2 months later, perhaps of mortification.

Catherine is probably the "Catherine Thomas a Wom^n" of Minories bur. 7 August 1785.

Had Griffith lived beyond January 1780, it might not have been for long. On its next voyage under John Coxon, leaving in June 1780, the Grosvenor ran head-long into the African coast, broke up and sank. 2/3 of the crew and almost all the passengers made it ashore, only to have all but 18 crew die (1/8 of the original complement, with none of the passengers surviving) during a 400-mile trek from the wreck site to the Dutch settlements at the Cape.

taf

[taf]

On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 3:39:48 PM UTC-7, taf wrote:

> Catherine Coleman is likely the daughter of David and Elizabeth b. 8 Oct., bap. 2 Nov. 1747, St. Leonard Shoreditch.
>

If the Old Bailey records are any indication, her father David Coleman of The Minories might politely be called a 'trader in second hand goods', or less charitably, a fence. The parents of the 1747 Catherine (perhaps the same as Griffith's wife), may be the David Coleman and Elizabeth Blaydon (of St. James, Westminster) married 9 Mar 1745 Saint George's chapel, Mayfair, but it is on the other side of the city.

taf

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here's another Edward III line for Jack's great-grandfather Giles Newton.

Generations 1-15 are from Leo’s Genealogics < genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002026&tree=LEO >

which includes research by Will Johnson
< groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/0Nr47yaoXEM/7bhBt0epIPgJ >

Generations 18-21 are from The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, The Mortimer-Percy Volume, Part 1, p. 162; digital image at Internet Archive < archive.org/details/plantagenetrollo01ruvi/page/n0 >.

1) Edward III (1312-1377), m. Philippa of Hainault

2) John Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399), m. (3) 1396 Katherine (Roet) Swynford (1350-1403)

3) John Beaufort 1st Earl of Somerset (c1371-1409/10), m. 1397 Lady Margaret Holland (d. 1439) dau of Thomas Holland 2nd Earl of Kent

4) Edmund Beaufort Duke of Somerset K.G. (1406-1455), m. c1431 Lady Eleanor Beauchamp (1408-1468), widow of Thomas Ros 8th Lord Ros and dau of Richard Beauchamp 5th Earl of Warwick

5) Margaret Beaufort (d. 1474) m. (2) Sir Richard Darell of Littlecote

6) Margaret Darell m. c1483 James Touchet 7th Lord Audley (1465-1497)

7) John Touchet Lord Audley (c1483-1558) m. Mary Griffin

8) George Touchet Lord Audley (d. 1560) m. Elizabeth Tuke

9) Henry Touchet Lord Audley (d. 1563) m. Elizabeth Sneyd (d. 1609)

10) Anne Touchet m. Thomas Brooke of Norton Priory (d. 1622)

11) Sir Richard Brooke of Norton (1571-1632) m. (1) Jane/Joan Chaderton (1574-1601)

12) Elizabeth Brooke (1595-1622) m. Torrell Jocelyn, of Oakington (1590-1656)

13) Theodora Jocelyn (1622-after 1691) m. 1647 Samuel Fortrey, of Byall Fen (1622-1681)

14) Catherine Fortrey m. 1687 Sir Peter Apsley of Apsley co. Sussex

15) Catherine Apsley (1688-1768) m. Allen Bathurst 1st Earl Bathurst (1684-1775)

16) Anne Bathurst (1722-1803), m. 1752 Rev. James Benson, L.L.D., Chancellor of the Diocese of Gloucester & Prebendary of Gloucester Cathedral (c1720-1785)

Sources:
(a) Egerton Brydges, Collins’s Peerage of England: Genealogical, Biographical, and Historical, Vol. 5 (1812), p. 92; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/peerageofengland05colluoft/page/92 >.

(b) Marriage record, 13 April 1752, for the Revd. James Benson & the Honble Miss Ann Bathurst; St. Peter Parish, Siddington, Gloucestershire; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Death notice for Lady Anne Benson, The Gloucester Journal, February 14, 1803, p. 3 col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. ““On Monday died, at her house in Barton street, near this city, Lady Anne Benson, relict of Dr. Benson, late Chancellor of this diocese.”

(d) Burial record, 11 February 1803, for Lady Ann Benson Relict of the Revd. James Benson L.L.D.; St. Mary de Lode Parish, Gloucestershire; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Burial record, 16 September 1785, for the Revd. James Benson, L.L.D., Chancellor of the Diocese of Gloucester & Prebendary of this Church, died 12th September; Gloucester Cathedral; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(f) Thomas Rudge, The History and Antiquities of Gloucester: From the Earliest Period to the Present Time…, p. 247; digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=_IEOAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA247 >.

(g) Will, James Benson Doctor of Laws and Prebendary of Gloucester, 16 July 1781, proved 12 October 1785; PROB 11/1134; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names his daughters Mary and Jane Benson and his wife Lady Anne Benson, whom he appointed sole executor.

17) Jane Benson (1758-1799) m. 1786 William Fendall of Matson, co. Gloucester (1757-1813)

Sources:
(a) Baptismal record, 16 May 1758, for Jane, daughter of James & Anne Benson; St. Mary Parish, Siddington, Gloucestershire; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Marriage record, 18 September 1786, for William Hendell [sic] and Jane Benson; Newton Nottage, Glamorgan; "Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900," FamilySearch < familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFC9-L7Z >.

(c) Marriage notice for William Fendall and Jane Benson, The British Chronicle, or Pugh’s Hereford Journal, September 28, 1786, p. 3, col. 4; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “At few days since was married, at Newton, in Glamorganshire, the Rev. Martin Benson, to Miss Benston, of the city of Gloucester; and at the same time, Wm. Fendall, Esq. to Miss Jane Benson, of the same place.”

(d) Death notice for Mrs. William Fendall, Jackson’s Oxford Journal, January 11, 1800, p. 3, col. 3; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “At Matson, near Gloucester, the Lady of William Fendall, Esq.”

(e) Burial record, 20 December 1799, for Jane Fendall, wife of Wm. Fendall Esq.; Matson Parish, Gloucestershire; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(f) Monumental inscription for Jane Fendall, Gloucester Cathedral; digital image, WikiMedia Commons
< commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Memorial_to_Jane_Fendall_in_Gloucester_Cathedral.jpg >. “In Memory of JANE FENDALL / Wife of WILLIAM FENDALL Esqr. / And youngest Daughter of the late / Revd. JAMES BENSON L.L.D. / Who departed this life December XXIV MDCCXCIX / Aged XLI Years / And lies interred in the neighboring Church of / MATSON.”

(g) “Fendall Family,” Gloucestershire Notes and Queries, Vol. 7, pp. 60-61; digital images, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=hNMxAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA61 >.

(h) Baptismal record, 22 September 1757, for William, son of John & Sarah Fendall, Red Lion Square; St. George the Martyr Church, Queen Square, Camden, London; “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(i) Burial record, 18 October 1813, for William Fendall; West Tanfield, York; “England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(j) Death notice for ----- Fendall, The Monthly Magazine; Or, British Register, Vol. 36, November 1, 1813, p. 365; digital image, HathiTrust < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044015473143;view=1up;seq=377 >. “At Tanfield-hall [Yorkshire], ----- Fendall, esq.”

(k) Death notice for Wm. Fendall, The Monthly Magazine; Or, British Register, Vol. 36, December 1, 1813, p. 461; digital image, HathiTrust < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044015473143;view=1up;seq=473 >. “At Tanfield Hall [Yorkshire], Wm. Fendall, esq. formerly of Portland-street, London.”

(l) Will, William Fendall of Matson in the County of Gloucester Esquire, 22 August 1809, proved 20 December 1813; PROB 11/1550; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He mentions several relatives including his “eldest son” John.

18) Rev. John Fendall (1793-1862) m. 1823 Martha Theodosia Blacker (1798-1878)

Sources:
(a) Baptismal record, 24 November 1794, for John, 13 months old, son of William Fendall, Esq. & Jane his wife; Matson Parish, Gloucestershire; digital image, “Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1813,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Marriage record, 29 December 1823, for John Fendall, Clk, and Martha Theodosia Blacker; Oldbury Parish, Shropshire; digital image, “Shropshire Marriages,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(c) Death notice for Rev. John Fendall, Salisbury and Winchester Journal, June 21, 1862, p. 8, col. 6; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On the 19th inst., at the Rectory, South Tedworth, the Rev. John Fendall, aged 68 years.”

19) Harriet Fendall (1826-1913) m. 1848 John Fendall Newton (1812-1877)

20) William Latham Newton (1862-1948) m. 1886 Violet Harrison (1862-1951)

21) Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

Gawin

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

Over the weekend I checked out the Peerage News newsgroup to find out what, if anything, was posted on his topic there.

The first page in this link takes you here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/Peerage- News/brooksbank%7Csort:date/peerage-news/-hRk7xlZqrA/Ds-eJ46yDAAJ

I wonder if Olivier posted this?

A link below #31 leads to the next two generations further back.

http://theesotericcuriosa.blogspot.com/2018/01/family-affair-shaking-family-tree-of_84.html

Next are there's a chart covering several generations of Brooksbank's matrilineal descent and and showing a relationship between him and Susan Alexandra (Sigourney) Weaver:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/Peerage-News/brooksbank%7Csort:date/peerage-news/-hRk7xlZqrA/Ds-eJ46yDAAJ

[gawin...@gmail.com]

There's also been some discussion on The Royal Forums, but not very detailed. I pointed out his Jewish ancestry and his relationship to Elizabeth Gaskell, author of Cranford, North and South, and Wives and Daughters, etc.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f113/jack-brooksbank-family-and-background-44266.html

[leslie...@gmail.com]

On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 9:28:58 AM UTC-7, Matthew Connolly wrote:
> I see that Jack Brooksbank has a descent from the Baker-Cresswell family, a line I’m very familiar with. Through a Gordon-Cumming marriage there are five descents from Henry VII via James V of Scots; by my last count, there are some 320 paths from Edward III down to Mary Emma Baker-Cresswell, great-great-grandmother of Jack Brooksbank.

------------------

The Cresswell family has a descent from Edward IV,
which is outlined in
John Hodgson, A history of Northumberland, in Three Parts,
Part 2, Volume 2:

https://archive.org/details/historyofnortpt202hodguoft/page/200

https://archive.org/details/historyofnortpt202hodguoft/page/202


Leslie

[John Higgins]

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 9:18:25 PM UTC-7, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm posting several additional EIII lines for Mary Rhoda (Hill) Meyrick, all through her maternal grandmother Frances Maria (Gore) Bringhurst, who descended from the Beauforts.
>
> Gawin
>
>

> A15) Frances Jane Gorges Gore (c1758-1829), m. (2) 1778 William Gore of Woodford, co. Leitrim M.P. (1744-1815)
>
> Sources:
> (a) Marriage notice for William Gore and Lady Morres, Finn’s Leinster Journal (Kilkenny), April 15-18, 1778, p. 3, col. 2; digital image, Irish Newspaper Archives < www.irishnewsarchive.com >. “William Gore of Woodland, in the county of Leitrim, Esq; to Lady Morres, relict of the late Sir Haydocke Morres, Bart., of Kilcreen, in the County of Kilkenny.”
>
> (b) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), p. 140 (Ralph Gore); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA140 >.
>
> (c) Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, Privy Council, and Order of Precedence, 99th ed. (1949), p. 951 (Harlech); digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse/page/952 >.
>
> (d) Death notice for Lady Morres Gore, The Morning Post (London), May 2, 1829, p. 4, col. 2; digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “On Monday, the 20th ult. at Paris, Lady Morres Gore, relict of William Gore, Esq. and mother of Wm. Ormsby Gore, Esq. of Porkington, Salop.”
>
> (e) Burial record, 23 April 1829, for Lady Morres Gore, age 71; City of Paris and Its Environs; digital image, “UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969,” Ancestry < www.ancesry.com >.
>
> (f) Will, Frances Morres Gore, of Chester Street, Parish of St. Georges Hanover Square, widow of William Gore Esquire of Baker Street, 24 June 1829, proved 24 June 1829; PROB 11/1757; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She made bequests to several children and grandchildren including her son William Ormsby Gore and granddaughter Maria Jane Bringhurst. She also mentioned her mother Mrs. Elizabeth Gore.
>
> Sources for her 1st marriage to Sir Haydock Evans Morres, 2nd Bt.:
> (a) Marriage notice for Haydocke Evans Morres and Miss Gore, The Leinster Journal, July 18-22, 1772, p. 2, col. 2; digital image, Irish Newspaper Archive; < archive.irishnewsarchive.com >. “Last Saturday was married at Barrowmount, Haydocke Evans Morres, Esq; Representative in Parliament for this city [Kilkenny], to Miss Gore, only daughter of Ralph Gore, of Barrowmount, Esq; whose many graceful accomplishments, joined to a most amiable disposition, give a pleasing hope as well to do honour to the state of Matrimony, as to secure its felicity.”
>
> (b) George Dames Burtchaell, Genealogical Memoirs of the Members of Parliament for the County and City of Kilkenny… (1888), p. 162 (Haydocke Evans Morres); digital image, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=gH_UAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA79 >.
>
> (c) The Complete Baronetage, Vol. 5, p. 359 [Morres]; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/completebaroneta05coka/page/358 >.
>
>

I believe that an Edward III descent for William Gore of Woodford, 2nd husband of Frances Jane Gorges Gore (A15 above) has not yet been mentioned in this thread. Here it is:

1. Edward III, King of England; m. Philippa of Hainault
2. Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester; m. Eleanor de Bohun
3. Anne [Plantagenet]; m. (3) William Bourchier, Count of Eu
4. Henry Bourchier, Earl of Essex, Count of Eu
5. William Bourchier, 1st Lord Fitzwarine; m. (1) Thomasine Hankeford
6. Fulke Bourchier, 2nd Lord Fitzwarine, m. Elizabeth Dinham
7. John Bourchier, 3rd Lord Fitzwarine, 1st Earl of Bath; m. (1) Cecilia Daubeney
8. Elizabeth Bourchier; m. Edward Chichester
9. Sir John Chichester; m. Gertrude Courtenay [of Powderham]
10. Sir Edward Chichester, 1st Viscount Chichester; m. (1) Anne Coplestone
11. Col. John Chichester of Dungannon; m. Mary Jones
12. Elizabeth Chichester; m. Sir John Cole, 1st Baronet, of Newland (d. before 5.X.1691)
13. Catherine Cole; m. Thomas Brooke of Colebrooke (bur. 23.II.1696)
14. Henry Brooke of Colebrooke (bur 17.VII.1761); m. 29.III.1711 Lettice Burton (d. 1763)
15. Lettice Brooke; m. 18.V.1740 Robert Gore of Woodford
16. William Gore of Woodford (11.VIII.1744-2.IV.1815); m. 10.II.1778 Frances Jane Gorges Gore

Details on almost all of the individuals in this descent can be found in the Genealogics database. The few connections not shown in Genealogics can be easily verified via the peerages (i.e., Burke's).

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

This article is one of several I've found that includes a fairly substantial amount of information on the Heywood family (Hannah Heywood Brooksbank, Jack Brooksbank's ancestor #65). I have no idea whether the people covered lead to any royal descents. Hannah's on the right side of the page, about ½ of 2/3 of the way down for anyone who's interested. This states that Hannah's paternal granndfather married as his second wife Hannah, daughter of Richard Milnes of Wakefield, referencing a pedigree of that family on page 20 which I'll check when I get a chance.

https://books.google.com/books?id=g_oKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA66&dq=%22arthur+heywood%22+stanley+brooksbank&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBpZfb4dTeAhXOhOAKHdXoAfcQ6AEISDAG#v=onepage&q=%22arthur%20heywood%22%20stanley%20brooksbank&f=true

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-6, hoove...@yahoo.com wrote:
> This article is one of several I've found that includes a fairly substantial amount of information on the Heywood family (Hannah Heywood Brooksbank, Jack Brooksbank's ancestor #65). I have no idea whether the people covered lead to any royal descents. Hannah's on the right side of the page, about ½ of 2/3 of the way down for anyone who's interested. This states that Hannah's paternal granndfather married as his second wife Hannah, daughter of Richard Milnes of Wakefield, referencing a pedigree of that family on page 20 which I'll check when I get a chance.
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=g_oKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA66&dq=%22arthur+heywood%22+stanley+brooksbank&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBpZfb4dTeAhXOhOAKHdXoAfcQ6AEISDAG#v=onepage&q=%22arthur%20heywood%22%20stanley%20brooksbank&f=true

This might one of the several articles you've found:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101076468717;view=1up;seq=305

Through his mother Jack also descends from Hannah (Heywood) Brooksbank's sister Elizabeth (Heywood) Jones:

1) Elizabeth Heywood (1784-1848) m. 1806 Hugh Jones (1777-1842)

2) Emma Jones (c1821-1904) m. 1840 Hon. Richard Denman (1814-1887)

3) Emma Sophia Georgiana Denman (1845-1939) m. (1) 1872 Maj. Oswin Cumming Baker Cresswell (1844-1886)

4) Mary Emma Baker Cresswell (1878-1970) m. 1897 Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Bt. (1862-1932)

5) Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972) m. 1921 Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)

6) Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006) m. 1949 Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926)

7) Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953) m. 1985 George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949)

8) Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)

Gawin

[John Higgins]

Based on the pedigrees in MGH 3rd ser. vol. 4 that Gawin cites above, there are almost certainly Edward III descents behind Hannah Heywood and her sister Elizabeth. As a start the line goes backward via Heywood, Hobson, Preston, Franklin, and Belasyse. When I have time in the morning, I'll try to lay out the details - if someone else doesn't beat me to it!

[gawin...@gmail.com]

When I worked on this months ago I wasn't able to place Elizabeth (Frankland) Preston.

One source states she was the daughter of Sir Thomas Frankland (who married a granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell), which seems chronologically tight:
https://books.google.com/books?id=Bww5AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42

But she's not listed in either Noble's "Memorials of the House of Cromwell" or Waylen's "House of Cromwell."

Thinking she might be Sir Thomas's sister I checked Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire but she's not mentioned there either:
https://archive.org/details/dugdalesvisitati2dugd/page/244

But I may have missed something.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

> When I worked on this months ago I wasn't able to place Elizabeth (Frankland) Preston.
>
> One source states she was the daughter of Sir Thomas Frankland (who married a granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell), which seems chronologically tight:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=Bww5AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42
>
> But she's not listed in either Noble's "Memorials of the House of Cromwell" or Waylen's "House of Cromwell."
>
> Thinking she might be Sir Thomas's sister I checked Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire but she's not mentioned there either:
> https://archive.org/details/dugdalesvisitati2dugd/page/244
>
> But I may have missed something.
>
> Gawin

Hmmm...I believe Elizabeth w/o of Edward Preston and mother of Elizabeth (Preston) wife of James Hobson has been misidentified as a Frankland.

According to the article from Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica linked above, Elizabeth (Preston) Hobson “da. of Edward Preston, Esq., of New Malton, by Elizabeth Frankland his wife” was bap. at St. Michael’s, New Malton, 7 Nov. 1717 (see p. 266).

FamilySearch shows the baptisms of several children of Edward Preston at St. Michael's: Anne (19 Oct 1703, b. 1 Oct), Charles (9 April 1706, b. 25 Mar), James (2 Feb 1713), Edward (28 Feb 1714), Mary (16 July 1716), Catherine (7 Oct 1718), Elizabeth (7 Nov 1717), Joseph (26 May 1720), William (30 May 1722), and John (30 May 1724).

I couldn't find any marriage for Edward Preston and Elizabeth Frankland. I also checked Ancestry and Findmypast. I did find a transcribed marriage record for Edward Preston and Elisabeth Richinson, married at York 1 Feb 1712.

The marriage settlement of Edward Preston and Elizabeth Rickinson, dated 3 Feb 1713, mentions the manor of Rillington which is approx. 3 miles east of Malton:
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a3654022-9b00-4de8-9320-44e4cbb8b0c8

According to Findmypast, Edward Preston of New Malton's will was proved in the Prerog. Court of Yorkshire in March 1741.

The 6 May 1743 marriage settlement of "James Preston of New Malton gentleman [eldest son and heir of Edward Preston deceased]" and Bridget Cartwright also mentions the manor of Rillington, so it seems the Edward Preston who married Elizabeth Rickinson is identical to Edward of New Malton:
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/25f9ae19-7801-49a5-a67a-ab6b73e3d16e

The Preston-Cartwright marriage settlement mentions William Rickinson. The PCC will of William Rickinson "late of the Middle Temple London now of New Malton in the County of York Esquire," dated 29 Nov 1774 and proved 26 Apr 1779, names the following relatives:
(1) Great nephew Edward Cottrell of the City of York Gent
(2) Niece Mrs. Elizabeth Hobson the wife of James Hobson of the City of York Esquire
(3) Great nephew William Coulson of Scarborough, Mariner
(4) Niece Mrs. Ann Parkin wife of Mr. Parkin mariner
(5) Great nephew James Preston of New Malton, County of York Esq.
(6) Land now in the possession of Mrs. Bridget Preston (no relationship stated)
(7) Nephew William Preston of Weybridge in the County of Surrey

So it appears Elizabeth (Preston) Hobson was the daughter of Edward Preston and his wife Elizabeth Rickinson(not Frankland), the sister of William Rickinson.

Gawin

[John Higgins]

Thanks for this. I agree with your conclusion that Edward Preston's wife Elizabeth must be a Rickinson, not a Frankland. The will of William Rickinson certainly makes that clear. She must have been Edward Preston's 2nd wife, because the baptismal records you mention give him two children born several years before their marriage.

I suspected that Elizabeth Frankland was the weak link in the possible royal descent, because the only two references I could find to her were in the two articles cited early in the thread, in MGH and in TERAS. Interestingly, both articles were published in 1902 and were authored by the same man, "Lord Hawkesbury" - i.e., Cecil George Savile Foljambe, then Baron Hawkesbury (1893 cr.) and later 1st Earl of Liverpool (1905 cr.). I wonder how he happened to make this error...

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Oops...I goofed earlier...Anne and Charles Preston were bapt. at St. Michael-le-Belfry, York not St. Michael, New Malton, so their father Edward must not be Edward Preston of New Malton.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Findmypast includes a transcription of a marriage license dated 1 Feb 1712 for Edward Preston of Malton (no age) and Elizabeth Rickinson of Scarborough, age 22.

It also shows a license dated 8 Jan 1711 for Edward Preston of Malton, age 27, and Katherine Taylor of Gowthorpe, age 23, to be married at Wharram PC or Foxhole PC. Their marriage settlement (13-14 Mar 1712) is referenced here: https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/data/gb50-uddlg/uddlg/50/9

According to parish records Edward Preston, s/o Joseph, was baptized at St. Michael, New Malton 18 Aug 1684. This matches the age in the 1711/2 marriage license. Other children of Joseph baptized at St. Michael were Woodsworth (2 Nov 1668), Mary (8 May 1671), Frances (13 Sep 1674), and James (16 July 1677).

The following burials were recorded at St. Michael: Woodsworth Preston s/o Joseph (23 Aug 1671), Frances Preston d/o Joseph (17 Aug 1679), Mr. Joseph Preston (22 July 1695), Mr. James Preston (2 Mar 1707), Mrs. Elizabeth wife of Mr. Edward Preston (30 May 1724), and Mr. Edward Preston Gentleman (15 Jan 1741) who was buried in the quire.

Gawin

[Matthew Connolly]

I guessed that the following might also pertain to the same Edward Preston:

“Ralph Cheatham of New Malton, gentleman, made his will, 28 April, 1709, leaving his lands in Rillington, Scarborough, Selby, Kippax, and elsewhere, to Edward, Mary, and Elizabeth, children of Mrs. Mary Preston, of New Malton.”

https://archive.org/details/TheYorkshireArchaeologicalAndTopographicalJournal.Volume3/page/n101 (last note on p.80).

Ralph Chetham appears on p.74 as a witness in 1672 along with M. Norcliffe, identified as Marmaduke of the Oswaldkirk family in a footnote. The Hobson pedigree in MGH has Richard Hobson married to Anne, daughter of Thomas Norcliffe, and I wondered if that could be Thomas of Oswaldkirk (which would give a descent from Edward IV, among others); but the chronology again seems too tight, as his daughter Ann was apparently baptised in 1661 and Richard and Anne Hobson were having children by 1675. It may be, of course, that the whole of Lord Hawkesbury’s pedigree needs to be treated with some caution (I was about to post the Rickinson material yesterday but found Gawin had beaten me to it - and did a much better job than I would have!)

-Matthew

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

I thought I'd check into the Denman family in Jack Brooksbank's ancestry starting with Thomas Denman, 1st Lord Denman in Burke's Peerage (1910). His coverage included, “His lordship, m. 18 Oct. 1804, Theodosia Anne, eldest daughter Rev Richard Revers, rector of Saxby, co. Leicester by Theodosia Dorothy his wife, 3rd dau of Rev William Anderson, Bart, of Lea, Lincolnshire . . .” Here's a link to this Anderson family from the 1880 editon of Burke's Peerage. Theodosia Dorothy is listed toward the bottom of the right half of the page which shows,

https://books.google.com/books?id=u6IaAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA30&dq=%22sir+william+anderson%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwir6ITIstzeAhXSrFkKHUjUAhkQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=%22sir%20william%20anderson%22&f=false

(footnote at the bottom of the page)
Rev Sir William Anderson, m. Anne, daughter of John Maddison, by Katherine Whichcott, of Harpswell, co. Lincs. There's a footnote on the bottom the page … concerning the Maddison family. (Which brought to mind recent posts where the Maddison family was discussed).

[John Higgins]

Edward III lines behind Katherine Whichcott and Rev. Sir William Anderson, Bt. were discussed in this thread on oct. 25. There are Edward III lines behind John Maddison via his mother Theodosia Newcomen through her mother Mildred Ayscough [of Blyborough]. Mildred's paternal great-grandmother was Elizabeth Dymoke, from whom Edward III descents can be easily traced in the Genealogics database.

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Thank you for posting this. I wonder if Ralph Cheatham and Mary Preston were in some way related.

According to Findmypast Mr. Ralph Cheatham was buried at St. Michaels, New Malton 4 Nov 1718 and his will was proved in the Prerogative Court of York 19 Nov. Mrs. Mary Preston widow was buried at St. Michaels 17 Oct 1722.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

I'm posting another possible Edward III line for Jack's maternal grandmother Joanna (Holland) Newton through her Drake ancestors. I say possible because its only valid if Alice Neville wife of Christopher Conyers was truly the illegitimate daughter of Richard Neville "the Kingmaker" as stated in the Visitation of Somerset.

The Drakes have other proven lines through Edward I so I'll post them as well.

Generations 3-10 are from Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families. 2nd ed., vol. 1, 2011, pp. 663-65; digital images, Google Books < books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=PA663 >.


1) Edward III
2) John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, m. (3) Catherine (Roet) Swynford
3) Joan Beaufort, m. (2) Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland
4) Richard Neville, 5th Earl of Salisbury (1400-1460), m. 1420 Lady Alice Montague (1407-1462)
5) Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick (1428-1471), & an unknown mistress
6) Alice Neville, m. Christopher Conyers of Pinchingthorpe, Yorkshire (d. 1543)
7) Agnes Conyers, m. Geoffrey Lee of Cawood, Yorkshire & Southwell, Notts (d. between 1545-51)

See also:
https://archive.org/details/visitationsofcou00beno/page/14

www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/lee-geoffrey-1488-154552

8) Richard Lee of Maidstone, Kent (d. 1573), m. Elizabeth Crispe

9) Mary Lee (d. 1637), m. Henry Drake of Wambrook, co. Dorset & Frenches, Reigate, co. Surrey (d. 1609)

10) Edward Drake of Frenches, Reigate, co. Surrey (c1587-after 1630), m. Mary Thornhull dau of William Thornhull of Thornhull, co. Dorset

Sources:
(a) William R. Drake, “Some Account of Richard Drake, of Esher Place (temp Queen Elizabeth).” Surrey Archaeological Collections, vol. 7, 1880, pp. 204-13 at 211-12 (note 1); digital images, Archaeology Data Service
< archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/surreyac/contents.cfm?vol=7 >.

(b) W. Bruce Bannerman, ed., The Visitations of the County of Surrey: Made and Taken in the Years 1530…1572…and 1623…. The Publications of the Harleian Society, vol. 43, 1899, p. 102; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/visitationsofcou43beno/page/102 >.

(c) Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History…. Vol. 2, 1921, pp. 536-38; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293107476008;view=1up;seq=420 >.

(d) Owen Manning & William Bray, The History and Antiquities of the County of Surrey…. Vol. 1, 1804, p. 310; digital image, FamilySearch
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/299243 >, image 471.

(e) “Parishes: Reigate,” A History of the County of Surrey. Vol. 3, ed. H E Malden, 1911; transcription, British History Online < www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/surrey/vol3/pp229-245 >. States Edward Drake sold Frenches in 1630.

11) Edward Drake of Bletchingley, co. Surrey (c1615-1662), m. Anne ---- [Best?] (d. 1689)

Sources:
(a) William R. Drake, “Some Account of Richard Drake, of Esher Place (temp Queen Elizabeth).” Surrey Archaeological Collections, vol. 7, 1880, pp. 204-13 at 211-12 (note 1); digital images, Archaeology Data Service
< archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/surreyac/contents.cfm?vol=7 >.

(b) W. Bruce Bannerman, ed., The Visitations of the County of Surrey: Made and Taken in the Years 1530…1572…and 1623…. The Publications of the Harleian Society, vol. 43, 1899, p. 102; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/visitationsofcou43beno/page/102 >.

(c) Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History…. Vol. 2, 1921, pp. 536-38; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293107476008;view=1up;seq=420 >.

(d) Owen Manning & William Bray, The History and Antiquities of the County of Surrey…. Vol. 1, 1804, p. 310; digital image, FamilySearch
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/299243 >, image 471.

(e) Burial record, April 1662, for Edward Drake; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, co. Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(f) Will, Edward Drake of Blechingly, co. Surrey, Gent., 20 March 1662, probate 15 May 1662; PROB 11/308; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names his wife Anne and children (all under 21) including Ralph “my eldest sonne.”

(g) Burial record, 21 November 1689, for Mrs. Ann Drake widow; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, co. Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

12) Ralph Drake of Bletchingley, co. Surrey (1645-1695), m. 1683, Martha Glyd (1654-1694) dau of Richard Glyd of Pendhill, co. Surrey

Sources:
(a) Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History…. Vol. 2, 1921, pp. 536-38; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293107476008;view=1up;seq=420 >.

(b) Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History…. Vol. 1, 1921, pp. 314-15; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library < babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293107476008;view=1up;seq=420 >.

(c) Owen Manning & William Bray, The History and Antiquities of the County of Surrey…. Vol. 1, 1804, p. 310; digital image, FamilySearch
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/299243 >, image 471.

(d) Baptismal record, 7 April 1645, for Ralph Drake, born 31 March, son of Edward; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Will, Ralph Drake of Blechingly, co. Surrey, Gent., 3 August 1694, probate 16 February 1696; PROB 11/436; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names several relatives including his son John.

(f) Burial record, 17 July 1695, for Ralph Drake; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(g) Marriage record, 28 August 1683, for Mr. Ralph Drake and Mrs. Martha Glyd; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(h) Baptismal record, 16 February 1654, for Martha Glyd, daughter of Richard Glyd, Gent, born 9 February; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(i) Burial record, 1 August 1694, for Mrs. Martha Drake the wife of Mr. Ralph Drake; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

13) John Drake of London (1690-1745), m. 1721 Anne Hayes (d. 1766)

Sources:
(a) Baptismal record, 7 August 1690, for John the son of Ralph and Martha Drake; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History…. Vol. 2, 1921, pp. 536-38; digital images, HathiTrust Digital Library
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=msu.31293107476008;view=1up;seq=420 >.

(c) Marriage record, 20 Feb 1721, for John Drake and Anne Hayes; St. Margaret Westminster; digital image, “Westminster Marriages,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(d) Burial record, 10 July 1745, for Mr. John Drake; St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, co. Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Will, John Drake, Citizen and Farrier of London, 12 July 1743, codicils 3 August 1744 and 4 July 1745, probate 5 August 1745; PROB 11/741; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He names several relatives including his wife Ann and son Ralph, who were appointed co-executors.

(f) Burial record, 8 April 1766, for Mrs. Anne Drake (widow); St. Mary Parish, Bletchingley, co. Surrey; digital image, “Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

14) Rev. Ralph Drake (from 1768 Brockman) of Beachborough, Kent (1724-1781), m. 1761 Caroline Brockman (1726-1801) dau of Henry Brockman of Cheriton, Kent.

Sources:

(a) Bernard Burke, “A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland. 6th ed., 1879, vol. 1, p. 195; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/genealogical01burk1879/page/194 >.

(b) Baptismal record, 3 April 1724, of Ralph Drake, born 2 April, son of John and Ann; St. Martin Orgar and Saint Clement Eastcheap, London; transcription, “England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Baptismal record, 24 July 1726, of Carolina Brockman, born 16 July, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth; Cheriton, Kent; transcription, “England, Kent, Canterbury Parish Registers, 1538-1986," FamilySearch
< familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGNJ-2264 >.

(d) “List of Marriages in the Year 1761,” The Gentleman’s Magazine, vol. 31, June 1761, p. 284; digital image, HathiTrust Digital Library
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000080773926;view=1up;seq=304 >. “May 30. Rev. Mr. Drake, fellow of St. John’s College, Oxford, - to Miss Caroline Brockman.”

(e) C. Greenwood, An Epitome of County History…. Vol. 1, 1838, p. 306; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/epitomeofcountyh01greeuoft/page/n559 >.

15) Rev. Julius Drake Brockman, Rector of Cheriton & Vicar of Newington (1768-1849), m. 1793 Harriet Locke (1771-1815) dau of Rev. Thomas Locke, Rector of Newcastle, co. Limerick

Sources:
(a) Bernard Burke, “A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland. 6th ed., 1879, vol. 1, p. 195; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/genealogical01burk1879/page/194 >.

(b) C. Greenwood, An Epitome of County History…. Vol. 1, 1838, p. 305; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/epitomeofcountyh01greeuoft/page/n557 >.

(c) “Clergy Deceased,” The Gentleman’s Magazine, New ser., vol. 32, Nov. 1849, p. 549; digital image, Internet Archive
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077262770;view=1up;seq=575 >.

16) Harriet Ann Drake Brockman (1805-1877), m. 1829 Thomas Houssemayne Du Boulay (1804-1872)

17) Col. Woodforde George Du Boulay (1848-1923), m. 1879 Rose Hawkins (1859-1932)

18) Violet Houssemayne Du Boulay (1892-1979), m. 1919 Godfrey Holland (1872-1966)

19) Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926)

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Here are Mrs. Newton's Edward I lines via the Drake family. My information is taken from Leo's Genealogics and the sources cited below.

1) Edward I (1239-1307), m. (1) 1254 Eleanor of Castile (c1244-1290)

A2) Elizabeth (1282-1316), m. (2) 1302 Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford & Essex (1276-1322)

A3) Margaret de Bohun (1311-1391), m. 1325 Hugh de Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon (1303-1377)

A4) Lady Elizabeth de Courtenay (c1333-1395), m. Sir Andrew Luttrell of Chilton, Devon

A5) Sir Hugh Luttrell of Dunster Castle, Somerset (c1364-1428), m. Catherine Beaumont (d. 1435) dau of Sir John Beaumont of Sherwell

A6) Sir John Luttrell of Dunster Castle, Somerset (c1394-1430), m. Margaret Touchet (c1398-1438) dau of John Touchet 4th Lord Audley

A7) Sir James Luttrell of Dunster Castle, Somerset (c1426-1461), m. 1440/1 Elizabeth Courtenay (d. 1493) [same as B7]

A8) Sir Hugh Luttrell of Dunster Castle, Somerset (d. 1521/2), m. 1487 Margaret Hill dau of Robert Hill of Houndston

A9) Sir Andrew Luttrell of Dunster Castle, Somerset (c1486-1538), m. 1514 Margaret Wyndham (d. 1580) [same as C10]

A10) Elizabeth Luttrell, m. (2) Sir George Speke of White Lackington, Somerset (c1530-1584)

Sources:
(a) John Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland…. Vol. 4, 1838, p. 538; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/b28748773_0004/page/538 >.

(b) www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/speake-%28speke%29-sir-george-1530-84

A11) Barbara Speke, m. William Thornhull, of Thornhull, co. Dorset

Sources:
(a) John Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland…. Vol. 4, 1838, p. 538; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/b28748773_0004/page/538 >.

(b) Henry St. George and Sampson Lennard, The Visitation of the County of Dorset, Taken in the Year 1623. The Publications of the Harleian Society, vol. 20, 1885, p. 92; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/visitationofcound00stge/page/92 >.

A12) Mary Thornhull, m. Edward Drake [see Generation 10 in the Edward III line posted above]

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A3) Margaret de Bohun (1311-1391), m. 1325 Hugh de Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon (1303-1377)

B4) Sir Philip de Courtenay of Powderham (1347-1406), m. c1378 Anne Wake (c1344-1404) dau of Sir Thomas Wake of Blysworth

B5) Sir John Courtenay of Powderham Castle (d. before 1415), m. Joan Champernoun (c1386-1419) dau of Sir Richard Champernoun

B6) Sir Philip Courtenay of Powderham Castle (1404-1463), m. Elizabeth Hungerford (d. 1476) dau of Walter Hungerford 1st Baron Hungerford

B7) Elizabeth Courtenay (d. 1493), m. 1440/1 Sir James Luttrell [see A7]

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1) Edward I (1239-1307), m. (2) 1299 Margaret of France (1279-1317)

C2) Thomas of Brotherton, 1st Earl of Norfolk (1300-1338), m. (1) Alice Hayles (d. 1326) dau of Sir Roger Hayles

C3) Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk (c1322-1399), m. (1) 1327 John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave (1315-1353)

C4) Elizabeth de Segrave, Baroness Segrave (1338-bet 1368-75), m. 1349 John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray (1340-1368)

C5) Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk (1365/6-1399), m. 1384 Lady Elizabeth Fitzalan (c1370-1425) [same as D6]

C6) Lady Margaret de Mowbray (d. 1459), m. c1422 Sir Robert Howard of Stoke Neyland (d. 1436)

C7) John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk (c1423-1485), m. (1) Katherine Moleyns (d. 1465) dau of Sir William de Moleyns

C8) Lady Margaret Howard, m. Sir John Wyndham (1451-1503)

C9) Sir Thomas Wyndham of Felbridge, Norfolk (d. 1521), m. Eleanor Scrope, dau of Sir Richard Scrope of Bentley

C10) Margaret Wyndham (d. 1580), m. 1514S Sir Andrew Luttrell [see A9]

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A3) Margaret de Bohun (1311-1391), m. 1325 Hugh de Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon (1303-1377)

D4) William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton (1312/3-1360), m. 1335 Elizabeth Badlesmere (1313-1356) dau of Batholomew Badlesmere, 1st Baron Badlesmere

D5) Lady Eleanor de Bohun (c1344-1385), m. 1359 Richard Fitzalan, 4th Earl of Arundel (1346-1397)

D6) Lady Elizabeth Fitzalan (c1370-1425), m. 1384 Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk [see C5]

Gawin

[leslie...@gmail.com]

There's another royal descent of interest for this Drake family.

The memorial inscription recorded in,
Uvedale Lambert, Blechingley: A Parish History...,
states that the mother of Martha (Glyd) Drake [generation 12]
was named Anne Stoughton.

Anne (Stoughton) Glyd was a sister of Rose (Stoughton) Otis of New Hampshire.
They were both descendants of Henry III, as detailed in Richardson's
Magna Carta Ancestry:


https://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA3-PA113&dq=richard+glydd+stoughton&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ6LqKhODeAhWqmeAKHfuvDMcQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=richard%20glydd%20stoughton&f=false


Leslie

[gawin...@gmail.com]

I'm posting another Edward I line for Jack's maternal grandmother Joanna (Holland) Newton.

Generations 1-12 are from Leo’s Genealogics.

1) Edward I (1239-1307), m. (1) 1254 Eleanor of Castile (c1244-1290)

2) Joan of Acre (1272-1307), m. (1) 1291 Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl of Gloucester & 7th Earl of Hertford (1243-1295)
3) Eleanor de Clare (1292-1337), m. (1) 1306 Hugh le Despencer, 2nd Lord Despencer (d. 1326)
4) Isabel le Despencer (c1312-after 1356), m. 1321 (annulled 1344), Richard FitzAlan, 3rd Earl of Arundel (c1307-1375/6)
5) Sir Edmund FitzAlan (c1329-1382), m. Sibyl de Montagu, dau of William de Montagu, 3rd Earl of Salisbury
6) Philippa FItzAlan (c1352-1399), m. Sir Richard Cergeaux of Colquite, Cornwall (c1340-1393)
7) Philippa Cergeaux (c1373-1420), m. Sir Robert Pashley (c1370-1422)
8) Anne Pashley (c1399-1444), m. Edward Tyrrell, of Downham, Essex (d. 1442)
9) Philippa Tyrrell, m. Thomas Cornwallis of Brome, Suffolk (c1421-1484)
10) William Cornwallis of Brome Hall, Suffolk (c1470-1519), m. Elizabeth Stanford (d. 1537) dau of John Stanford of Stagsden

11) Affra Cornwallis (d. 1560?), m. 1525 Sir Anthony Aucher of Bishopsbourne, Kent (c1500-1558)

Additional sources:

(a) John Burke and John Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, 1838, p. 44; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/agenealogicalan02burkgoog/page/n44 >.

(b) Nick Kingsley. “(250) Aucher of Otterden Place and Bourne Park, Baronets.” Landed Families of Britain and Ireland, 14 Feb. 2017
< landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2017/02/250-aucher-of-otterden-place-and-bourne.html >.

12) Edward Aucher of Bishopsbourne, Kent (c1539-1568), m. 1560 Mabel Wroth (c1541-1579) dau of Sir Thomas Wroth of Durants, Enfield, Middlesex

Additional sources:

(a) John Burke and John Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, 1838, p. 44; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/agenealogicalan02burkgoog/page/n44 >.

(b) Nick Kingsley. “(250) Aucher of Otterden Place and Bourne Park, Baronets.” Landed Families of Britain and Ireland, 14 Feb. 2017
< landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2017/02/250-aucher-of-otterden-place-and-bourne.html >.

13) Anthony Aucher of Bishopsbourne, Kent (1562-1609/10), m. (1) c1584 Margaret Sandys (1566-1590), dau of Edwin Sandys, Archbishop of York

Sources:

(a) John Burke and John Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, 1838, p. 44; digital image, Internet Archive < archive.org/details/agenealogicalan02burkgoog/page/n44 >.

(b) Nick Kingsley. “(250) Aucher of Otterden Place and Bourne Park, Baronets.” Landed Families of Britain and Ireland, 14 Feb. 2017
< landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2017/02/250-aucher-of-otterden-place-and-bourne.html >.


14) Edwin Aucher of Willesborough, Kent (c1584-1661), m. 1611 Mary Gibbon (d. 1680), dau of John Gibbon of Charlton Park, Bishopsbourne, Kent.

Sources:

(a) John Burke and John Bernard Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, 1838, p. 44; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/agenealogicalan02burkgoog/page/n44 >.

(b) Nick Kingsley. “(250) Aucher of Otterden Place and Bourne Park, Baronets.” Landed Families of Britain and Ireland, 14 Feb. 2017
< landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2017/02/250-aucher-of-otterden-place-and-bourne.html >.

(c) Joseph Meadows Cowper, ed. Canterbury Marriage Licenses. 1st ser., 1568-1618 (1892), p. 15; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/canterburymarria01cant/page/10 >. “Awcher, Edwin, of St. M. Bredin’s, Cant., g., and Mary Gibbon of Bishopsbourne, v. At Kingstone. Venelis vir Thomas Hardres of St. M. Bredin’s, miles, bonds. April 3, 1611.”

(d) Marriage record, 4 April 1611, for Edwin Aucher (of St. My. Bredin, Canterbury, Gent.) and Mary Gibbon (of Bishopsbourne); Kingston, Kent; transcription, “Kent, East Kent Marriage Index 1538-1754,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >.

(e) Monumental inscription for Edwin Aucher, Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “Willesborough,” Kent Archaeological Society
< www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsWillesborough/01.htm >. “Depositum integerrimi Viri Edwini AUCHER, Armigeri; qui, Annos natus 77. Denatus .. Septembris 1661 ut renascatur in Vitam Aeternam.”

(f) Burial record, 14 December 1680, for Mary Aucher Widow; Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >.

15) Anthony Aucher of Willesborough, Kent (1617/8-1673), m. 1653 Elizabeth Deedes (d. 1690)

Sources:

(a) John Philpot. The Visitation of Kent: Taken in the Years 1619-1621. Ed. Robert Hovenden. The Publications of the Harleian Society, vol. 42 (1898), p. 181; digital image, Internet Archive
< archive.org/details/visitationofkent00camd/page/180 >.

(b) Thomas Alfred Walker, Admissions to Peterhouse or S. Peter's College in the University of Cambridge: A Biographical Register...1912, p. 59; digital image, HathiTrust Digital Library
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015053661891;view=1up;seq=75 >.

(c) Baptismal record, 1 March 1617/8, for Anthony Aucher, son of Edwin; Bishopsbourne, Kent; transcription, “England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(d) Marriage record, 27 September 1653, for Anthony Aucher and Elizabeth Deedes; Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “Kent, East Kent Marriage Index 1538-1754,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(e) Burial record, 12 January 1673, for Anthony Aucher; Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >.

(f) Will, Anthony Aucher, undated, probate March 1673; Court of the Archdeaconry of Canterbury, registered copy wills, vol. 73, f. 232; digital image, “Probate records for the Court of the Archdeaconry of Canterbury, 1449-1858,”
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/232273 >, film 188973, image 231. He names his wife Elizabeth (appointed executrix), mother Mrs. Mary Aucher, son Edwin, and daughters Mary, Frances, and Elizabeth.

(g) Burial record, 1 April 1690, for Elizabeth Aucher Widow; Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >.


16) Mary Aucher (1656-1703), m. 1689/90 William Randolph of Burton, Kent (c1662-1705)

Sources:

(a) Joseph Meadows Cowper, ed. The Regyster Booke of Chrystenynges, Maryages and Buryalls of the Parish of St. Alphaege in the Cyttye of Canterburye, 1558-1800 (1889), p. 33; digital image, “Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “Mary, d. of Anthony Aucher, gentleman, was borne March 30th and was baptized April 2th following, anno dom. 1656.”

(b) Joseph Meadows Cowper, ed. Canterbury Marriage Licenses. 4th ser., 1677-1700 (1898), pp. 474-75; digital images, FamilySearch
< https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/385535 >, vol. 4, images 247-48. “Randolph, William, Junior, of Kennington, g., ba., 28, and Mary Aucher of Willesborough, v., 28. At Willesborough. Feb. 22, 1689.”

(c) Marriage record, 23 February 1690, for Will Randolph Jnr (of Kennington, Gent, age 28) and Mrs. Mary Randolph (of Willesborough); Willesborough, Kent; transcription, “Kent, East Kent Marriage Index 1538-1754,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >.

(d) Burial record, 19 August 1703, for Mary Randolph of Canterbury; Kennington, Kent; digital image, “Parish Registers for Kennington, 1671-1951,” FamilySearch < www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/650734 >, film 1866559, image 497.

(e) Monumental inscription, Mary Randolph, Kennington, Surrey; transcription, “Kennington,” Kent Archaeological Society
< www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsKennington/01.htm >. “Hic jacet Maria Antonij AUCHER Armig. Filia, et Gulielmi RANDOLPH Jun. Uxor, quae obijt 15 Die Augusti 1703. Aetatis 39.”

(f) Burial record, 22 November 1705, for Mr. Will. Randolph; Kennington, Kent; digital image, “Parish Registers for Kennington, 1671-1951,” FamilySearch
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/650734 >, film 1866559, image 498.

(g) Monumental inscription, William Randolph, Kennington, Surrey; transcription, “Kennington,” Kent Archaeological Society
< www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsKennington/01.htm >. “Hic jacet Corpus Gulielmi RANDOLPH de Burton, Jun, Gent; qui obijt 19 Die Novembris 1705. Aetatis 53.”

(h) Will, William Randolph of the City of Canterbury Gent, 11 November 1703, probate Feb 1705; Court of the Archdeaconry of Canterbury, registered copy wills, vol. 80, f. 303; digital image, “Probate records for the Court of the Archdeaconry of Canterbury, 1449-1858,”
< www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/232273 >, film 188981. He names his son Thomas and daughters Abigal, Elizabeth, and Katherine, all under 15.

(i) H. B. Thomas. “Birchley and the Randolphs of Biddenden.” Archaeologia Cantiana, vol. 68, 1954, pp. 62-71; digital images, Kent Archaeological Society
< www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/Vol.068%20-%201954/068-02.pdf >.


17) Elizabeth Randolph (1693-1752), m. 1714/5 Henry Brockman of Cheriton, Kent (1685-1752)

Sources:

(a) Baptismal record, 27 July 1693, for Elizabeth daughter of William and Mary Randolph; Denton, Kent; transcription, “England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(b) Joseph Meadows Cowper, ed. Canterbury Marriage Licenses. 5th ser., 1701-1725 (1905), p. 61; digital image, FamilySearch
< https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/385535 >, vol. 5, image 42. “Brockman, Henry, of Cheriton, ba., and Eliz. Randolph of the Precincts of the Abp’s. Palace, Cant., spr. At Ch. Ch. or St. Alphage, Cant. Feb. 26, 1714.”

(c) Marriage record, 5 February 1714, for Henry Brockman (Gent of Cheriton) and Mrs. Elizabeth Randolph (of the Precincts of the Bishops Palace); Christ Church Cathedral, Canterbury, Kent; digital image, “Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Marriages,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(d) Burial record, 13 June 1752, for Elizabeth Brockman; St. Martin Parish, Cheriton, Kent; transcription, “Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(e) Burial record, 19 March 1752, for Henry Brockman; St. Martin Parish, Cheriton, Kent; transcription, “Kent, Canterbury Archdeaconry Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(f) H. B. Thomas. “Birchley and the Randolphs of Biddenden.” Archaeologia Cantiana, vol. 68, 1954, pp. 62-71; digital images, Kent Archaeological Society
< www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/Vol.068%20-%201954/068-02.pdf >.


18) Carolina Brockman (1726-1801), m. 1761 Rev. Ralph Drake (later Brockman) [see Generation 14 in Edward III posted on Nov 18]

Source:

Baptismal record, 24 July 1726, for Carolina Brockman, born 16 July, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth; Cheriton, Kent; transcription, "England, Kent, Canterbury Parish Registers, 1538-1986," FamilySearch < familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGNJ-2264 >.

Gawin

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Oops, for "Kennington, Surrey" in Generation 16 read "Kennington, Kent."

[Brad Verity]

So much great research has been posted in this thread. And I finally have the time to take a look at it in some detail.

On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 1:46:29 PM UTC-7, John Higgins wrote:
> In my data I currently show 8 Edward III lines for Mary Rhoda Hill. Most of them were posted by Olivier Guionneau last week - all of them through Jane Broughton, wife of Sir Rowland Hill, 1st Bt, and daughter of Sir Brian Broughton, 3rd Bt., and his wife Elizabeth Delves. Here's an additional line, starting with Cardinal Henry Beaufort, illegitimate (later legitimized) son of John of Gaunt.

I have this line in my database, and can add a few Edward I lines to it.

> 1. Cardinal Henry Beaufort (d. 11.IV.1447) (unm.)
> 2. [illeg.] Joan Beaufort; m. Sir Edward Stradling (d. ca. 1453)
> 3. Sir Henry Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 1476); m. Elizabeth Herbert
> 4. Thomas Stradling of St. Donat's (d. 8.IX.1480); m. Janet Mathew
> 5. Sir Edward Stradling (d. 8.V.1535); m. Elizabeth Arundell of Lanherne (d. 20.II.1513)
> 6. Jane Stradling (20.II.1505-1555); m. Alexander Popham of Huntworth (d. 11.VI.1556)
> 7. Katherine Popham (d. 9.XI.1588); m. 3.II.1558 (his 2nd) William Pole [or Poole] of Shute, Devonshire (31.VII.1515-15.VIII.1587)
> 8. Sir William Pole of Colcombe (27.VIII.1561-9.II.1635/6) [the antiquary - see ODNB]; m. (1) 30.VII.1583 Mary Periam (30.IV.1567-2.V.1605)
> 9. Eleanor Pole (bap. 22.V.1597, bur. 7.IV.1676); m. Anthony Floyer of Floyers Hayes and of Berne, Dorsetshire (bur. 2.XI.1671)

Anthony Floyer of Berne House (Generation 9 above) descends from Edward I, starting with:
1A) Sir Hugh Courtenay of Haccombe (c.1360-1425, great-great-grandson of Edward I) m. 3) Philippa Arcedekne (1386-by1416), and had
2A) Joan Courtenay (1411-1465) m. 1) Sir Nicholas Carew of Mohan Ottery (1406-1448, descended from Edward I), and had
3A) Alexander Carew of Antony House (d. 1492) m. Isabel Hatch, and had
4A) John Carew of Antony House m. Thomasine Holland, and had
5A) Joan Carew m. 1511 John Floyer of Floyers Hayes, and had
6A) William Floyer of Floyers Hayes (d. 1578) m. Elizabeth Kirke (d. 1566), and had
7A) Anthony Floyer of Floyers Hayes (d. 1608) m. Anne Martyn (d. 1627, descended from Edward I), and had
8A) Anthony Floyer of Berne House (c.1596-1671) m. Eleanor Pole (see Generation 9 above)

> 10. William Floyer of Berne, Dorset (d. 7.I.1680/1); m. (1) 22.V.1641 Margaret Lawrence of Creech Grange

Margaret Lawrence (b. Creech Grange, Steeple, Dorset, bap. 13 Oct. 1625 St Michael & All Angels Church, Steeple), wife of William Floyer of Berne House (see Generation 10 above) descends from Edward I, starting with:
1B) Sir Hugh Courtenay of Haccombe (c.1360-1425, great-great-grandson of Edward I) m. 4) Maud Beaumont (d. 1467), and had
2B) Sir Hugh Courtenay of Boconnoc House (c.1420-1471) m. Margaret Carminow (1422-1482), and had
3B) Elizabeth Courtenay m. John Trethurffe of Trethurffe House (d. 1510), and had
4B) Joan Trethurffe m. John Tregarthen, Heir of Tregarthen (d. 1503), and had
5B) Joan Tregarthen (1499-1583) m. 2) John Wadham of Merrifield (d. 1578), and had
6B) Margaret Wadham (d. 1606) m. Sir Nicholas Martyn of Athelhampton House (d. 1596), and had[*]
7B) Elizabeth Martyn m. Henry Brune of Athelhampton House (1550-1594), and had
8B) Grace Brune (d. 1664) m. Sir Edward Lawrence of Creech Grange (c.1594-1647), and had
9B) Margaret Lawrence (b. 1625) m. William Floyer of Berne House (see Generation 10 above)

[*] Another dau of Dame Margaret (Wadham) Martyn (Generation 6B above) was Anne Martyn (d. 1627), wife of Anthony Floyer of Floyers Hayes (see Generation 7A above)

> 11. Anthony Floyer of Abbot's Wooton, Dorset (living 1682); m. settlement 21.IX.1664 Sarah Gould of Upway, Dorset (living 1728)

Sarah (Gould) Floyer above was buried 9 Feb 1733 St Laurence Church, Upwey, Dorset.

> 12. Rev. William Floyer, rector of Trusham (b. 1676, bur. 1.IX.1742); m. Sarah Burwell

SARAH BURWELL, b. 28 Mar. 1699 London, bap. 4 Apr. 1699 St Lawrence Jewry, London; bur. 18 Aug. 1756 St Michael Church, Trusham, Devon; m. 1st 25 Oct. 1717 St Mary Church, Ottery St Mary, Devon, Rev. WILLIAM FLOYER, Rector of Trusham 1715-42 (bap. 16 Nov. 1689 St Andrew Church, Charmouth, Dorset; bur. 1 Sep. 1742 St Michael Church, Trusham - see Generation 12 above); m. 2nd 31 July 1747 St Mary Magdalene Church, Stoke Canon, Devon, JOHN HARRIS (whom I've been unable to further identify).

Sarah has several lines of descent from Edward I. Here's one thru Old Jockey of Norfolk:
1C) John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk (c.1425-1485, descended from Edward I) m. 1) Katherine Moleyns (c.1425-1465), and had
2C) Lady Margaret Howard m. Sir John Wyndham of Felbrigg Hall (1453-1502), and had
3C) Sir Thomas Wyndham of Felbrigg Hall (d. 1522) m. 1) Eleanor Scrope (c.1477-by 1509, descended from Edward I), and had
4C) Margaret Wyndham (c.1500-1580) m. Sir Andrew Luttrell of Dunster Castle (c.1486-1538, descended from Edward I), and had
5C) Elizabeth Luttrell m. 2) Sir George Speke of White Lackington (c.1530-1584), and had
6C) Anne Speke (c.1555-1588) m. Sir George Trenchard of Wolfeton House (c.1548-1630), and had
7C) Elizabeth Trenchard (1587-1656) m. John Browne of Frampton Court (1580-1659, descended from Edward I), and had
8C) Jane Browne (d. by 1658) m. 2) Rev. John Stoughton of London (1593-1639), and had
9C) Jane Stoughton (c.1637-1680) m. Dr. Thomas Burwell of Dorchester, physician (d. 1702), and had
10C) Hamey Burwell of Waxway, Dorset (1663-1749) m. Elizabeth --- (whom I've been unable to further identify), and had
11C) Sarah Burwell (1699-1756), wife of Rev. William Floyer (see Generation 12 above)

> 13. Margaret Floyer (1722-1806); m. 12.II.1743 James Cornish (bap. 2.I.1720, d. 18.X.1785)
> 14. Philip Cornish (bap. 1.III.1753); m. Mary Mackenzie of Clarendon, Jamaica

Dr. PHILIP CORNISH of Exeter, surgeon, b. 1 Mar. 1753 East Teignmouth, Devon, bap. 29 Mar. 1753 St Michael Church, East Teignmouth; d. 4 Nov. 1824 Barn Field, Exeter, bur. 10 Nov. 1824 St David Church, Exeter; m. 6 May 1775 St Paul Church, Exeter, MARY MACKENZIE (b. c.1750; d. 15 Apr. 1828 The Citadel, Hawkstone Park, Hodnet, Shropshire), dau. of George Mackenzie of Clarendon, Jamaica (1711-c.1780) & Mary Stevens (d. 1798).

> 15. Elizabeth Rhodes Cornish (d. 16.XII.1842); m. 16.XI.1795 Col. John Hill of Hawkestone [grandparents of Mary Rhoda Hill]

Elizabeth Rhodes Cornish was bap. 8 June 1776 St Stephen Church, St Stephen-by-Saltash, Cornwall.

> The families of Floyer and Cornish are covered in various editions of Burke's LG.

Cheers, -------Brad

[Brad Verity]

On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 10:39:00 AM UTC-7, Brad Verity wrote:
> 11) Rev. CHRISTOPHER SYKES, Rector of Roos 1819-41, b. 18 Oct. 1774 Wheldrake, Yorkshire, bap. 19 Oct. 1774 St Helen Church, Wheldrake; d. 9 Nov. 1857 Roos; bur. 16 Nov. 1857 All Saints Church, Roos; m. 14 May 1799 St Martin Church, Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire, LUCY DOROTHEA LANKFORD (b. Fence House, Hurdsfield, Cheshire, bap. 25 Mar. 1773 St Michael Church, Macclesfield; d. 17 Dec. 1828 Roos, bur. 23 Dec. 1828 All Saints Church, Roos), dau of Henry Lankford of Stockport, silk merchant (1735-1792) & Sarah Stafford (1736-1791, descended from Edward III), and had

Since the Edward III descents for Lucy Dorothea (Lankford) Sykes above, don't seem to have made it yet into any online databases, here they are:

Edward III had 2 sons A1 & B1 (see below):
A1) Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Elizabeth de Burgh, and had
A2) Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March, and had
A3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy, and had
A4) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1394-1455) m. Lady Eleanor Neville (1403-1472, descended from Edward III), and had
A5) Sir Ralph Percy (1425-1464) m. Eleanor Acton, and had
A6) Margaret Percy m. Ralph Harbottle of Beamish Hall (1453-1504, descended from Edward I), and had
A7) Sir Guiscard Harbottle of Beamish Hall (1485-1513) m. Jane Willoughby, and had
A8) Mary Harbottle (1507-1556) m. Sir Edward Fitton of Gawsworth (d. 1548), and had
A9) Sir Edward Fitton of Gawsworth (1527-1579) m. Anne Warburton (1527-1574, descended from Edward I), and had
A10) MARY FITTON, b. c.1547; bur. 3 Dec. 1571 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden, Cheshire; m. (contract 1552), as his 1st wife, WILLIAM TATTON of Wythenshawe Hall, Northenden (b. c.1543; d. 19 May 1611, bur. 30 May 1611 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden), son of Robert Tatton of Wythenshawe Hall (c.1515-1579) & Dorothy Booth (c.1520-1600, descended from Edward I), and had
A11) ROBERT TATTON of Wythenshawe Hall, b. c.1564; d. 10 Jan. 1624 Southwark, Surrey; m. 1583, ELEANOR WARREN (b. c.1565; d. unknown), dau. of John Warren of Poynton Hall (1535-1587, descended from Edward I) & Margaret Molyneux (c.1544-1617, descended from Edward I), and had
A12) WILLIAM TATTON, Heir of Wythenshawe Hall, b. 1585; d. 8 Jan. 1617 (drowned in the Mersey), bur. 15 Jan. 1617 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; m. 19 Feb. 1603 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden, as her 1st husband, KATHERINE LEYCESTER (b. c.1586; d. 13 Jan. 1666, bur. St Wilfrid Church, Northenden), dau. of Sir George Leycester of Toft Hall (c.1566-1612) & Alice Leycester, and had
A13) ROBERT TATTON of Wythenshawe Hall, b. 14 May 1606; d. 19 Aug. 1669, bur. 24 Aug. 1669 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; m. 9 Jan. 1629 St Mary Church, Bowdon, Cheshire, ANNE BRERETON (b. c.1610; bur. 8 Apr. 1670 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden), dau. of William Brereton of Ashley (c.1569-1630) & Jane Warburton (d. 1627, descended from Edward I), and had
A14) ROBERT TATTON of Stockport, Cheshire, b. 25 Apr. 1639 Wythenshawe Hall, bap. 13 May 1639 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; bur. 16 Feb. 1686 St Mary Church, Stockport; m. ANNE DAVENPORT (see B13 below), and had
A15) WILLIAM TATTON of Wythenshawe Hall, b. 5 Aug. 1674 Bramall Hall, Stockport, bap. there 20 Aug. 1674; bur. 30 Nov. 1732 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden; m. 26 Jan. 1699 St James Church, Gawsworth, Cheshire, HANNAH WRIGHT (bap. May 1680 St Michael Church, Macclesfield, Cheshire; bur. 26 Sep. 1733 St Wilfrid Church, Northenden), dau. of Peter Wright of Macclesfield, and had
A16) LUCY TATTON, bap. 29 Oct. 1712 Bramall Hall, Stockport; d. before 1769; m. 21 Nov. 1734 St James Church, Taxal, Cheshire, JOHN STAFFORD of Macclesfield, barrister-at-law (b. 1705; d. 29 Aug. 1775 Macclesfield, bur. 1 Sep. 1775 St Michael Church, Macclesfield), and had
A17) SARAH STAFFORD, bap. 23 Feb. 1736 St Michael Church, Macclesfield; bur. there 30 Apr. 1791; m. 20 June 1761 St John the Baptist Church, Saltersford, Cheshire, HARRY LANKFORD of Stockport, silk merchant (bap. 8 Apr. 1735 St Edward Church, Leek, Staffordshire; bur. 22 Dec. 1792 St Michael Church, Macclesfield), son of Samuel Lankford of Macclesfield (1707-1760) & Dorothy Dale (d. 1748), and had
A18) LUCY DOROTHEA LANKFORD, b. Fence House, Hurdfield, Cheshire, bap. 25 Mar. 1773 St Michael Church, Macclesfield; d. 17 Dec. 1828 Roos, Yorkshire, bur. 23 Dec. 1828 All Saints Church, Roos; m. 14 May 1799 St Martin Church, Ashton upon Mersey, Cheshire, Rev. CHRISTOPHER SYKES, Rector of Roos 1819-41 (1774-1857, descended from Henry VII), and are ancestors of Jack Brooksbank

B1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. 3) Katherine Roet, and had
B2) Lady Joan Beaufort (1377-1440) m. 1) Sir Robert Ferrers of Wem (c.1372-1396), and had two daus B3 & C3 (see below)
B3) Mary Ferrers (1394-1458) m. Sir Ralph Neville of Oversley (c.1395-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
B4) John Neville of Oversley (c.1415-1482) m. Elizabeth Newmarch, and had
B5) Joan Neville (c.1434-bef.1482) m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.1428-1463), and had
B6) Margaret Gascoigne (b. c.1455) m. Sir Christopher Ward of Givendale (1453-1521), and had
B7) Anne Ward (c.1473-1521) m. Ralph Neville of Thornton Bridge (1469-1522), and had
B8) Katherine Neville (1499-bef.1555) = Sir Arthur Darcy of Brimham (see C8 below), and had
B9) Frances Darcy, illegit. (b. c.1531) m. Peter Gobard of London (d. 1568), and had
B10) John Gobard of Coventry (1564-1625) m. Lucy Smith (d. 1634), and had
B11) Anne Gobard (1593-1675) m. 1) Thomas Legh of Adlington Hall (1593-1644, descended from Edward I), and had
B12) Anne Legh (b. 1623) m. Peter Davenport of Bramall Hall (1622-1658, descended from Edward I), and had
B13) ANNE DAVENPORT, bap. 19 Dec. 1647 St Mary Church, Stockport; bur. there 1 Feb. 1728; m. ROBERT TATTON of Stockport (see A14 above)

C3) Elizabeth Ferrers (1393-1434) m. John, 4th Lord Greystoke (c.1390-1436), and had
C4) Joan Greystoke (c.1409-by 1487) m. 1) John Darcy of Temple Hurst (1404-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
C5) Richard Darcy, Heir of Temple Hurst (1424-bef.1455) m. Eleanor Scrope (c.1425-1471), and had
C6) Sir William Darcy of Temple Hurst (1443-1488) m. Euphemia Langton (d. 1494), and had
C7) Thomas, 1st Baron Darcy (1467-1537) m. 1) Dowsabel Tempest, and had
C8) Sir Arthur Darcy of Brimham (c.1505-1561) = Katherine Neville (see B8 above)

Cheers, ------Brad

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On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:56:16 PM UTC-6, Brad Verity wrote:

>
> Sarah has several lines of descent from Edward I. Here's one thru Old Jockey of Norfolk:
> 1C) John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk (c.1425-1485, descended from Edward I) m. 1) Katherine Moleyns (c.1425-1465), and had
> 2C) Lady Margaret Howard m. Sir John Wyndham of Felbrigg Hall (1453-1502), and had
> 3C) Sir Thomas Wyndham of Felbrigg Hall (d. 1522) m. 1) Eleanor Scrope (c.1477-by 1509, descended from Edward I), and had
> 4C) Margaret Wyndham (c.1500-1580) m. Sir Andrew Luttrell of Dunster Castle (c.1486-1538, descended from Edward I), and had
> 5C) Elizabeth Luttrell m. 2) Sir George Speke of White Lackington (c.1530-1584), and had

>

> Cheers, -------Brad

Jack Brooksbank has another line from Elizabeth Luttrell and Sir George Speke (see my Nov. 18 post) but I missed Eleanor Scrope's Edward I line.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:56:16 PM UTC-6, Brad Verity wrote:

> 10C) Hamey Burwell of Waxway, Dorset (1663-1749) m. Elizabeth --- (whom I've been unable to further identify), and had

Elizabeth wife of Hamey Burwell was probably the Eliz. Burwell buried 28 April 1735 by Willm. Floyer at Ottery St. Mary, Devon. Hamey Burwell was buried there 2 Oct. 1749 and Sarah Burwell and William Floyer, Clerk, Rector of Trusham were married there 25 Oct. 1717.

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:56:16 PM UTC-6, Brad Verity wrote:

>

> SARAH BURWELL, b. 28 Mar. 1699 London, bap. 4 Apr. 1699 St Lawrence Jewry, London; bur. 18 Aug. 1756 St Michael Church, Trusham, Devon; m. 1st 25 Oct. 1717 St Mary Church, Ottery St Mary, Devon, Rev. WILLIAM FLOYER, Rector of Trusham 1715-42 (bap. 16 Nov. 1689 St Andrew Church, Charmouth, Dorset; bur. 1 Sep. 1742 St Michael Church, Trusham - see Generation 12 above); m. 2nd 31 July 1747 St Mary Magdalene Church, Stoke Canon, Devon, JOHN HARRIS (whom I've been unable to further identify).
>

John Harris is called "Mr. John Harris of Hennock" in the parish register marriage record (digital image, Findmypast) and "John Harris of Hennock in the County of Devon Gentleman" in Sarah's will (PROB 11/825, digital image Ancestry).

Presumably he was the John Harris, son of John and Elizabeth, born 4 June 1683 and baptized 21 June at Hennock.

Mr. John Harris married Mrs. Elizabeth Pynsent at Hennock 12 July 1708.

Mrs. Elizabeth Harris was buried at Hennock 30 July 1745.

John Harris, Gent. was buried at Hennock 4 April 1760.

In her will Sarah (Burwell) Floyer Harris also mentions "John Harris the younger of Hennock, clerk." Presumably he was the John Harris son of Mr. John Harris who was baptized at Hennock 11 October 1709. The Revd. Mr. John Harris "late Vicar of this parish" was buried at Hennock 21 August 1772.

(See digital images of Hennock parish registers in Findmypast)

According to CCED John Harris was appointed Vicar of Hennock 24 Feb 1756.

http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/DisplayAppointment.jsp?CDBAppRedID=323200

Gawin

[Brad Verity]

On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:12:13 AM UTC-8, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Elizabeth wife of Hamey Burwell was probably the Eliz. Burwell buried 28 April 1735 by Willm. Floyer at Ottery St. Mary, Devon. Hamey Burwell was buried there 2 Oct. 1749 and Sarah Burwell and William Floyer, Clerk, Rector of Trusham were married there 25 Oct. 1717.

Yes, I agree that the 1735 burial entry at Ottery St Mary is that of Hamey Burwell's wife Elizabeth - good find. I hope someday her maiden name and parentage can be uncovered.

Excellent - thank you, Gawin! It's great to have Sarah's second husband John Harris so thoroughly identified. I've added what you've found on him into my database.

On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:08:19 AM UTC-8, gawin...@gmail.com wrote:
> Jack Brooksbank has another line from Elizabeth Luttrell and Sir George Speke (see my Nov. 18 post) but I missed Eleanor Scrope's Edward I line.

I've been busy with non-genealogical matters these past couple weeks, but I look forward to reviewing all of your posts in detail.

Thanks & Cheers, ------Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:52:50 AM UTC-6, Brad Verity wrote:

>
> Yes, I agree that the 1735 burial entry at Ottery St Mary is that of Hamey Burwell's wife Elizabeth - good find. I hope someday her maiden name and parentage can be uncovered.

Believe me, I tried.... :-)

[leslie...@gmail.com]

There might be more royal descents for the Brooksbanks family,
through the Tracy family of Toddington, Gloucestershire.


First there is a Bray family pedigree, from Miscellanea Genealogica
et Heraldica, vol. 1:

https://books.google.com/books?id=XCQFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA62&dq=giles+bray+anne+chetwode&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWnteoxvveAhUSKK0KHShxBJIQ6AEITjAG#v=onepage&q=giles%20bray%20anne%20chetwode&f=false


1 Edmund Bray = Dorothy Tracy
|
2 Giles Bray = Anne Chetwode
|

The following generations are in the Genealogics database,
without source citations:

http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00701910&tree=LEO)


Part of the line of descent is mentioned in The Parliamentary History of
the Principality of Wales...:

https://books.google.com/books?id=rbYlAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA137&dq=reginald+kemeys+ann+proby&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjp3eu3x_veAhVQS6wKHYxdBXkQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=reginald%20kemeys%20ann%20proby&f=false


The connection with the Kemeys family is also mentioned in
the Clitherow Family papers:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/b292a2ca-9c28-4b37-8265-cf3875816561


3 Edmund Bray = Frances Ashcombe
|
4 Reginald Bray = Jane Rainton
|
5 Ann Bray = Edward Kemeys
|
6 Reginald Kemeys = Anne Proby
|
7 Anne Kemeys = James Clitherow
|
8 Philippa Clitherow = Benjamin Brooksbank



Leslie

[hoove...@yahoo.com]

Dorothy Tracy married twice and is listed in Genealogics with no children/descendants by her first husband Edmund Bray. As usual more royal descents for Jack Brooksbank through this family.

http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00060119&tree=LEO&parentset=0&display=standard&generations=8

Edward III, King of England=Philippa van Holland en Hainault
Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence, Earl of Ulster=Lady Elizabeth de Burgh
Philippa of Clarence (Plantagent)=Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March,
Earl of Ulster
Elizabeth Mortimer=Henry 'Hotspur' Percy, Lord Percy
Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland=Lady Eleanor Nevill (descendant of
Edward III)
Lady Katherine Percy=Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent, 4th Baron Grey of “Ruthyn”
Anne Grey of “Ruthin”=John Grey, 8th Lord Grey of Wilton
Edmund Grey, 9th Lord Grey of Wilton=Florence Hastings
Elizabeth Grey=John Brydges, 1st Baron Chandos
Hon. Elizabeth Brydges=Henry Tracy of Toddington
Sir John Tracy, of Toddington=Anne Throckmorton
Dorothy Tracy, of Toddington=(1) Edward Bray (no descendants listed in
Genealogics), m. (2) Edward Conway, 1st Viscount Conway (three children
listed in Genealogics)

[Brad Verity]

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 11:28:14 PM UTC-8, lma...@att.net wrote:
> There might be more royal descents for the Brooksbanks family,
> through the Tracy family of Toddington, Gloucestershire.

Dear Leslie,

Very cool - Edward III descents further back on the Brooksbank paternal line. Great digging!

[snip]

> 1 Edmund Bray = Dorothy Tracy
> |
> 2 Giles Bray = Anne Chetwode
> |

Anne Chetwode has Edward III descents as well.

Edward III had 2 sons A1 & B1 (see below):
A1) Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Elizabeth de Burgh, and had
A2) Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March, and had
A3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy, and had

A4) Lady Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1436) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford (1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
A5) Mary Clifford (c.1420-by 1458) m. Sir Philip Wentworth of Nettlestead (1424-1464), and had
A6) Sir Henry Wentworth of Nettlestead (1448-1499) m. 1) Anne Say, and had
A7) Sir Richard Wentworth of Nettlestead (by 1480-1528) m. Anne Tyrrell (descended from Edward I), and had
A8) Thomas, 1st Baron Wentworth (1501-1551) m. Margaret Fortescue (see B7 below), and had
A9) Margery Wentworth (c.1537-1587) m. 2) Sir William Drury (1527-1579, descended from Edward I), and had
A10) Jane Drury m. Sir Richard Chetwode of Warkworth (descended from Edward I), and had
A11) Anne Chetwode m. Sir Giles Bray of Barrington Park (see above)

B1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. 3) Katherine Roet, and had

B2) Lady Joan Beaufort (1377-1440) m. 2) Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, and had
B3) Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Alice Montagu (1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
B4) John Neville, 1st Marquess Montagu (c.1431-1471) m. Isabel Ingaldesthorpe (1441-1476, descended from Edward I), and had
B5) Lady Anne Neville (c.1460-1486) m. Sir William Stonor of Stonor Park (c.1449-1494, descended from Edward I), and had
B6) Anne Stonor (c.1484-1518) m. Sir Adrian Fortescue of Stonor Park (c.1481-1539), and had
B7) Margaret Fortescue (b. 1504) m. Thomas, 1st Baron Wentworth (see A8 above)

[snip]

> 3 Edmund Bray = Frances Ashcombe
> |

Frances Ashcombe has an Edward I descent thru the Talbots:
1) Richard, 4th Lord Talbot (c.1361-1396, great-great-grandson of Edward I) m. Ankaret Lestrange, and had
2) Alice Talbot (c.1393-1436) m. 1) Sir Thomas Barre (c.1390-by 1420), and had
3) Elizabeth Barre (c.1414-1468) m. Sir Edmund Cornewall, Heir of Burford (c.1382-1435), and had
4) Thomas Cornewall of Burford (c.1431-aft.1472) m. Elizabeth Lenthall (d. 1489), and had
5) Sir Edmund Cornewall of Burford (c.1450-1489) m. Margaret Horde (d. 1499), and had
6) Anne Cornewall m. Peter Blount of Sodington Hall (c.1459-1527), and had
7) Thomas Blount of Sodington Hall (d. 1562) m. 1) Katherine Stanford, and had
8) Elizabeth Blount m. William Clifton of Barrington Court (d. 1564), and had
9) Hester Clifton m. Miles Sandys of Fladbury (c.1530-1601), and had
10) Hester Sandys (1569-1656) m. Sir Thomas Temple, 1st Bt of Stowe (1567-1637), and had
11) Katherine Temple m. Sir William Ashcombe of Alvescot (1589-1627), and had
12) Frances Ashcombe m. Sir Edmund Bray of Barrington Park (see above)

> 4 Reginald Bray = Jane Rainton
> |
> 5 Ann Bray = Edward Kemeys
> |
> 6 Reginald Kemeys = Anne Proby
> |
> 7 Anne Kemeys = James Clitherow
> |
> 8 Philippa Clitherow = Benjamin Brooksbank

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:08:53 PM UTC-8, hoove...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dorothy Tracy married twice and is listed in Genealogics with no children/descendants by her first husband Edmund Bray. As usual more royal descents for Jack Brooksbank through this family.
> http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00060119&tree=LEO&parentset=0&display=standard&generations=8
>
> Edward III, King of England=Philippa van Holland en Hainault
> Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence, Earl of Ulster=Lady Elizabeth de Burgh
> Philippa of Clarence (Plantagent)=Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March,
> Earl of Ulster
> Elizabeth Mortimer=Henry 'Hotspur' Percy, Lord Percy
> Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland=Lady Eleanor Nevill (descendant of
> Edward III)
> Lady Katherine Percy=Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent, 4th Baron Grey of “Ruthyn”
> Anne Grey of “Ruthin”=John Grey, 8th Lord Grey of Wilton
> Edmund Grey, 9th Lord Grey of Wilton=Florence Hastings
> Elizabeth Grey=John Brydges, 1st Baron Chandos
> Hon. Elizabeth Brydges=Henry Tracy of Toddington
> Sir John Tracy, of Toddington=Anne Throckmorton

Like Frances (Ashcombe) Bray (see above), Anne (Throckmorton) Tracy has an Edward I descent thru the Talbots.
1) Richard, 4th Lord Talbot (c.1361-1396, great-great-grandson of Edward I) m. Ankaret Lestrange, and had
2) Alice Talbot (c.1393-1436) m. 1) Sir Thomas Barre (c.1390-by 1420), and had
3) Elizabeth Barre (c.1414-1468) m. Sir Edmund Cornewall, Heir of Burford (c.1382-1435), and had
4) Eleanor Cornewall (c.1435-1519) m. 2) Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle (1429-1509), and had
5) Elizabeth Croft m. John Whittington of Pauntley (c.1463-1525), and had
6) Thomas Whittington of Pauntley (c.1485-1546) m. Margery Needham, and had
7) Margaret Whittington (c.1518-1578) m. Sir Thomas Throckmorton of Corse Court (by 1516-1568), and had
8) Anne Throckmorton (d. 1581) m. Sir John Tracy of Toddington Manor (c.1540-1591, descended from Edward III - see above)

> Dorothy Tracy, of Toddington=(1) Edward Bray (no descendants listed in
> Genealogics), m. (2) Edward Conway, 1st Viscount Conway (three children

> listed in Genealogies)

Cheers, ------Brad

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Another colonial New England connection for Jack Brooksbank. He's a direct descendant of John Glover of Boston, Mass., who is included in Robert Charles Anderson's "The Great Migration." John Glover's son Thomas returned to England and was the grandfather of Elizabeth Thomson wife of Stamp Brooksbank.

1) John Glover of Prescot, Lancashire & later of Boston, Mass. (1600-1653/4), m. Anna ------
2) Thomas Glover of Hackney, London (1626/7-1707), m. 1652 Rebecca Boucher (d. 1709)
3) Mary Glover (d. 1723), m. 1680 Joseph Thomson/Thompson of Hackney, London (1656-1721)
4) Elizabeth Thomson/Thompson (1701-1758), m. 1722 Stamp Brooksbank (1694-1756)

Sources:

(a) Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Vol. 3, G-H (2003), pp. 72-76 (vide John Glover); digital images, “New England, The Great Migration and The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(b) Baptismal record, 11 August 1701, Eliza., daughter of Joseph Thomson by Mary his wife, born 6 August; St. John at Hackney Parish, Hackney; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Burial record, 13 May 1709, Mrs. Rebeckah Glover Wid. [“in Trench’s vault”]; St. John at Hackney Parish, Hackney; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(d) Burial record, 4 August 1721, Joseph Thomson [“in the Church”], St. John at Hackney Parish, Hackney; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Burial record, 15 November 1723, Mrs. Mary Thomson Wid. [“Buryed in the N. Isle”], St. John at Hackney Parish, Hackney; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(f) Burke’s Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage… 99th ed. (1949), pp. 269-70 (vide Brooksbank)
< archive.org/stream/burkesgenealogic1949unse#page/268/mode/2up >.

(g) G. A. Cathew, The Hundred of Launditch and Deanery of Brisle in the County of Norfolk…Part 3 (1879), p. 469
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951d00653389m;view=1up;seq=493 >.

(h) Anna Glover, Glover Memorials… (1867), pp. 1-99
< archive.org/details/glovermemorials00glovgoog/page/n8 >.

(i) John Hunter, Familae Minorum Gentium. Ed. John W. Clay. Vol. 4 (1896) (The Publications of the Harleian Society, Vol. 40), p. 1285
< archive.org/details/FamiliaeMinorumGentiumV40/page/n119 >.

(j) Letters of administration, Elizabeth Brooksbank of Hackney, widow (died intestate 1758), granted 7 August 1762 to daughter Mary Brooksbank, spinster; digital image, “Bank Of England Wills Extracts 1717-1845,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(k) Marriage record, 14 October 1680, Joseph Thompson & Mary Glover, St. Leonard Parish, Shoreditch, Hackney; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >.

(l) Marriage record, 26 December 1721, Stamp Brooksbank of St. Olave & Elizabeth Thompson of Hackney, St. Mary le Bow Parish, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(m) Will, Joseph Thomson of Hackney in the County of Middlesex Esqr, dated 21 May 1715, proved 9 August 1721; PROB 11/581; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >. He made bequests to his only son Joseph Thomson, daughters Frances, Mary, and Elizabeth, his wife Mary (appointed executrix), and mentions a parcel of ground in London purchased from his father in law Mr. Thomas Glover.

(n) Will, Joseph Thompson of Nonsuch Park, Surrey, Esquire, dated 26 May 1743, proved 20 October 1743; PROB 11/729; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >. He made bequests to several relatives including his “Sister Brooksbank” and her [unnamed] sons and daughters.

Gawin

[leslie...@gmail.com]

There is a fairly well documented treatment of the
Kemeys family here (Reginald is at XXII):

http://kemmisfamily.us/TheKemmisBook/kemmis07.html
http://kemmisfamily.us/TheKemmisBook/kemmis06.html

The Kemeys ancestry has several royal descents, which
I haven't verified:

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=aet%2Dt&id=I71846


Leslie

[leslie...@gmail.com]

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 2:06:55 PM UTC-8, Brad Verity wrote:

The line of descent from Dorothy Tracy down to the Clitherow family
is recorded in Stemmata Chicheleana, tables # 340, 341 and 344:

https://archive.org/details/stemmatachichele00buckuoft/page/n249
https://archive.org/details/stemmatachichele00buckuoft/page/n251
https://archive.org/details/stemmatachichele00buckuoft/page/n253


Leslie

[gawin...@gmail.com]

Jack Brooksbank may have another colonial New England line. Paul Allestree of London, merchant (d. 1702), great-grandfather of Elizabeth Bond (1727-1810) wife of Joseph Brooksbank, was probably identical to the Paul Allestree of Boston, Massachusetts whose father Ralfe apprenticed him in 1641.

Source: Note-Book Kept By Thomas Lechford, Esq., Lawyer, in Boston, Massachusetts Bay, from June 27, 1638, to July 29, 1641 (1885), p. 437
< archive.org/details/notebookkeptbyth00lech/page/880 >.

Paul Allestree is also mentioned in New England records as a ship factor, making his last appearance in 1650.

On 31 January 1655 Paul "Allistra" (of the parish of St. George Botolph Lane, London, merchant) married Elizabeth Savill (of [Cruched?] Fryars, Spinster) at St. George.

Source: digital image of parish register, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

1) Paul Allestree of London, Merchant (d. 1702), m. 1655 Elizabeth Savill (d. 1680)
2) Elizabeth Allestree (c1664-1741), m. 1684 Thomas Corbett Citizen & Grocer of London (1651-1709/10)
3) Catherine Corbett (1692-1770), m. 1718 Benjamin Bond of Leadenhall Street, London, Turkey Merchant (1685-1763)
4) Elizabeth Bond (1727-1810), m. (1) 1752 Joseph Brooksbank (1725-1759) and (2) William Snell

Additional sources:

(a) Paul Allestree & Ralfe Allestree entries, Boston, MA: Inhabitants and Estates of the Town of Boston, 1630-1822 (Thwing Collection), p. 1637; digital image, American Ancestors < www.americanancestors.org/DB530/i/0/1/0 >.

(b) Paul Allestree entry, 1655, 30516, Boyd's Inhabitants of London & Family Units 1200-1946, digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(c) Burial record, 13 July 1680, for Elizabeth the wife of Paule Allestree, St. Martin Orgar Parish, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(d) Burial record, 30 September 1702, for Pawlle Allestree (in ye new Vault), St. Martin Orgar Parish, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >.

(e) Will of Paul Allestree of London Merchant, dated 27 January 1700, proved 6 November 1702; PROB 11/467; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He made bequests to several relatives including his daughter Elizabeth Corbet wife of Thomas Corbet.

(f) George J. Armytage, ed. Allegations for Marriage Licences Issued by the Vicar-General of the Archbishop of Canterbury, July 1679 to June 1687 (1890), p. 173 < archive.org/details/allegationsforma30chur/page/172 >. “1684 July 25 Thomas Corbett, of St. Mary Overies, Southwark, Surrey, Grocer, Bachr, abt. 32, & Elizabeth Allestree, of St. Martin Orgars, Lond., Spr., abt. 20, with consent of her father Paul Allestree; at St. Mary Overies or [blank].”

Gawin

[gawin...@gmail.com]

I’m posting *possible* Edward I lines for Jack Brooksbank’s ancestor Elizabeth Bond (1727-1810) wife of Joseph Brooksbank.

I say possible because one researcher (Richard Williams) identifies Elizabeth’s grandfather Thomas Corbett Citizen & Grocer of London as Thomas Corbett the son of Roger Corbett of Blakeland, Bobbington, co. Stafford, a descendant of Edward I. See www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/corbett/1053/

The identification seems highly likely:

(1) Thomas Corbett of Bobbington was born 1651. Jack’s ancestor Thomas Corbett was about 32 at his marriage in 1684.
(2) In 1667/8 Thomas Corbett the son of Roger Corbett of Bobbington Staffordshire Gent was apprenticed to a member of the Grocers’ Company. Jack’s ancestor Thomas Corbett was called “Citizen and Grocer of London.”
(3) In 1680 Thomas Corbett of Bobbington was unmarried and a Citizen of London. Jack’s ancestor Thomas Corbett "Grocer & Bachelor" married in London in 1684.
(4) Thomas Corbett of Bobbington was the son of Roger Corbett and his wife Catherine Barnesley. Jack’s ancestor Thomas Corbett named a son Roger and his only daughter Catherine.

Thomas Corbett of Bobbington had at least six lines from Edward I. Generations 1-11 are from David Faris. Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists… (1996), pp. 5-6, 24-25, 45-46, 54-55, 60-62, 102-103, 106, 263-65; digital images, Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

LINE A
1A) Edward I, m. Eleanor of Castile
2A) Joan of Acre (1272-1307), m. (1) 1290 Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl of Gloucester (1243-1295)
3A) Margaret de Clare (1292-1342), m. (2) 1317 Hugh de Audley, Earl of Gloucester (c1289-1347)
4A) Margaret de Audley (c1325-1348), m. 1336 Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford (1301-1372)
5A) Elizabeth de Stafford (c1337-1375), m. (2) 1349 Sir John de Ferrers of Chartley (c1331-1367)
6A) Sir Robert de Ferrers of Chartley (1357/9-1412/3) m. (2) Margaret le Despenser (d. 1415) [see 6B]
7A) Sir Edmund de Ferrers of Chartley (c1387-1435), m. Ellen Roche (d. 1440)
8A) Sir William de Ferrers of Chartley (c1412-1450), m. Elizabeth Belknap (d. 1471)
9A) Anne de Ferrers (c1438-1468/9), m. (1) Sir Walter Devereux 1st Lord Ferrers K.G. (c1433-1485)
10A) Elizabeth Devereux (d. 1541), m. (1) Sir Richard Corbet of Moreton Corbet, co. Salop (1451-1493)
11A) Sir Robert Corbet of Moreton Corbet, co. Salop (c1477-1513), m. Elizabeth Vernon (d. 1563) [see 9C]
12A) Jane Corbet, m. Thomas Lee of Langley, co. Salop (d. 1561)

Sources:
(a) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 1 (1889), p. 138 [Corbett pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.28/page/n191 >.

(b) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 2 (1889), p. 319 [Lee pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.29/page/n41 >.

(c) Will, Thomas Lee of Langley, co. Salop, Esquire, dated 28 May 1561, proved 24 January 1562[/3]; PROB 11/46/40; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. He made bequests to several relatives including his unmarried daughter Joyce. For a transcription of the will & notes on the Lee family, see Nina Green’s The Oxford Authorship site < www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-46-40.pdf >.

(d) Inquisition, 24 November 13 Elizabeth
< discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ec2ae6b1-7254-4f92-8054-ccaed8679c13 >. “Thomas Lee late of Langley, deceased, occupied and held the chapel [at Longley or Langley] and yard and profits and tithes and detained them from Easter 2 Edward VI until his, T.L.'s death on 18 October 3 Elizabeth (1561)….”

13A) Joyce Lee, m. after 1561 Robert Moreton of Haughton, co. Salop

Sources:

(a) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 2 (1889), p. 319 [Lee pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.29/page/n41 >

(b) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 2 (1889), p. 368 [Morton pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.29/page/n91 >

14A) Jane Moreton (d. 1652), m. 1588 Thomas Corbett of Longnor, co. Salop (c1562-1645)

Sources:

(a) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 2 (1889), p. 368 [Morton pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.29/page/n91 >

(b) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 1 (1889), p. 140 [Corbett pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.28/page/n193 >

(c) Richard Williams. “Corbet Corbett of Shropshire,” Genealogy.com (9 December 2000) < www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/corbett/1053/ >. “Thomas Corbet of Longnor, Salop c1562-1645 / m 11 Aug ?1585 Longnor: Jane Moreton dau and coheir of Robert Moreton of Haughton, / Salop Esquire c1530-.... QV; d 1 Dec 1652 / d 26 Dec 1645 aged 83; i Leebotwood, Salop; Adm (PCC) Oct 1646.”

(d) Marriage record, 11 August 1588, for Thomas Corbett & Jane Morton; Longnor, Shropshire; digital image “Shropshire Marriages,” Findmypast
< www.findmypast.com >

(e) Will, Jane Corbett of Longnor, parish of Condover, co. Salop, Widow, dated 5 January 1651[/2], proved 25 March 1654; PROB 11/242; digital images, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry
< www.ancestry.com >. She asked to be buried in the chancel of the parish church of Leebotwood and made bequests to several relatives including her sons Thomas, Roger, and Mr. George Corbett (appointed executor), her daughter Mrs. Ursula Stanley; her son Roger’s two children Anne and Thomas; and Mrs. Anne Corbett Widow, wife of her late grandchild Edward Corbett Esquire, deceased.

(f) Monumental inscription, Jane Corbet of Longnor, died 1 December 1652, St. Mary Church, Leebotwood, Shropshire; digital image, Find A Grave
< www.findagrave.com/memorial/17555352/jane-corbet >.

15A) Roger Corbett of Blakeland, Bobbington, co. Stafford (1600-1661), m. 1646 Catherine Barnsley (1621-1691)

Sources:

(a) The Visitation of Shropshire…1623… Part 1 (1889), p. 140 [Corbett pedigree]
< archive.org/details/TheVisitationOfShropshireV.28/page/n193 >

(b) Staffordshire Pedigrees Based on the Visitation of that County Made by William Dugdale…1663-1664…. (1912), p. 57 [Corbet pedigree]
< archive.org/details/
StaffordshirePedigreesBasedOnTheVisitationOfThatCountyMadeByWilliam/page/n67 >

(c) Richard Williams. “Corbet Corbett of Shropshire,” Genealogy.com (9 December 2000) < www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/corbett/1053/ >. “Roger Corbet of "Blakelands", Bobbington(in Claverley, Salop) gentleman 1600-c1663 / c 5 Aug 1600 Longnor yr son of Thomas Corbet of Longnor, Salop c1562-1645 QV / m Nov 1646 Catherine Barnsley dau and heir of John Barnsley of "Blakelands", / Bobbington(in Claverley, Salop); (as Mrs. 5 hearths, Bobbington) 1666 HT; / i 24 Nov 1691 Bobbington / d c1663; [? i 17 Jan 1661 Bobbington]”

(d) Baptismal record, 5 August 1600, for Roger, son of Mr. Thomas Corbett and Jane his wife; Longnor, Shropshire; digital image, “Shropshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(e) Baptismal record, 11 November 1621, for Katherin daughter of John Barnsley; Holy Cross Parish, Bobbington, Staffordshire; digital image, “Staffordshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(f) Marriage record, 24 November 1646, for Roger Corbett Gent. & Katherine Barnsley; Claverley, Shropshire; digital image, “Shropshire Marriages,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(g) Marriage record, 28 November 1646, for Mr. Roger Corbett & Katherine Barnsley; Holy Cross Parish, Bobbington, Staffordshire; digital image, “Staffordshire Marriages,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(h) Burial record, 17 January 1661, for Mr. Roger Corbett; Holy Cross Parish, Bobbington, Staffordshire; digital image, “Staffordshire Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(i) Burial record, 24 November 1691, for Katherine Corbett Widow; Holy Cross Parish, Bobbington, Staffordshire; digital image, “Staffordshire Burials,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

16A) Thomas Corbett, Citizen & Grocer of London (1651-1709/10), m. 1684 Elizabeth Allestree (c1664-1741)

Sources:

(a) Staffordshire Pedigrees Based on the Visitation of that County Made by William Dugdale…1663-1664…. (1912), p. 58 [Corbet pedigree]
< archive.org/details/
StaffordshirePedigreesBasedOnTheVisitationOfThatCountyMadeByWilliam/page/n69 >

(b) Richard Williams. “Corbet Corbett of Shropshire,” Genealogy.com (9 December 2000) < www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/corbett/1053/ >. “Thomas Corbet [2] c 30 Nov 1651 Bobbington; m (by licence) 25 Jul 1684 St Mary / Ovary, Southwark, Surrey: Elizabeth Allestree of St Martin Ongar and Enfield / and Paulfield, Middx: She Will (PCC) ....: He d 18 Jan ?1709; i 8 Feb ?1706 St / Martin Vintry.”

(c) Thomas Corbet entry, 1684, 30515, Boyd's Inhabitants of London & Family Units 1200-1946, digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(d) Baptismal record, 30 November 1651, for Thomas son of Mr. Roger Corbet; Holy Cross, Bobbington, Staffordshire; digital image, “Staffordshire Baptisms,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(e) Apprenticeship record, 20 January 1668/9, for Thomas Corbett; abstract, “London Apprenticeship Abstracts, 1442-1850,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. “Corbett Thomas son of Roger, Bobbington, Staffordshire, gentleman to Richard Chase 20 Jan 1668/9, Grocers' Company.”

(f) George J. Armytage, ed. Allegations for Marriage Licences Issued by the Vicar-General of the Archbishop of Canterbury, July 1679 to June 1687 (1890), p. 173 < archive.org/details/allegationsforma30chur/page/172 >. “1684 July 25 Thomas Corbett, of St. Mary Overies, Southwark, Surrey, Grocer, Bachr, abt. 32, & Elizabeth Allestree, of St. Martin Orgars, Lond., Spr., abt. 20, with consent of her father Paul Allestree; at St. Mary Overies or [blank].”

(g) Burial record, 26 January 1709/10, for Thomas Corbett; St. Martin Vintry Parish, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. “Mr. Thomas Corbett Dyed of a fever the 18 day of January and Buried the 26 Ditto 1709/10 under the Comon Councill Pew in the Midle of the [?] Chancel.”

(h) Will of Elizabeth Corbett, dated 5 July 1733, proved 29 October 1741; PROB 11/712; digital image, “England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >. She made bequests to her sons Thomas and Paul Corbett, daughter Catherine Bond, and other relatives. Proved by Benjamin Bond of the parish of St. Bennet Sherehog, London, merchant & Paul Corbett of the parish of St. Martin Vintry London, merchant. The probate calls her “late of the parish of Endfield in the County of Middlesex Widow.”

(i) Burial record, 4 August 1741, for Elizabeth Corbett; St. Martin Vintry Parish, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

17A) Catherine Corbett (1692-1770), m. 1718 Benjamin Bond of Leadenhall Street, London, Turkey Merchant (1685-1763)

Sources:

(a) Thomas Corbet entry, 1684, 30515, Boyd's Inhabitants of London & Family Units 1200-1946, digital image, Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >.

(b) Baptismal record, 17 July 1692, for Katherine d. of Thomas Corbett Sugar Baker & Elizabeth; St. Saviour Parish, Southwark, Surrey; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(c) Marriage bond, 22 April 1718, for Benjamin Bond (St. Benedict Sheerhogg, London, merchant) & Catherine Corbett (of Endfield, co. Middlesex, Spinster); digital images, “London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(d) Marriage record, 24 April 1718, for Benjamin Bond (parish of St. Bennet Sheerhog, London, Bachelor) & Catherine Corbet (parish of Enfield, co. Middlesex, Spinster); St. Paul’s Cathedral, London; digital image, “London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(e) “Register of Births,” Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 3rd ser., vol. 3 (1900), p. 88 < archive.org/details/miscellaneagenea3190howa/page/n197 >. “My son Benjamin by Catherine my wife, the daughter of Thomas Corbet of College Hill in the Parish of St. Martins Vintry in the City of London, to whom I was married at St. Pauls Cathedral the 24th April 1718… BENJ. BOND…”

(f) Death notice for Benjamin Bond, The Gentleman’s Magazine, and Historical Chronicle. Vol. 33 (October 1763), p. 518
< babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000080773900;view=1up;seq=580 >. “[Oct. 18] Ben. Bond, at Tooting, Surrey, Esq.”

(g) Burial record, 28 October 1763, for Bengaman [sic] Bond Esqr “from Tuting in Surry,” Bunhill Fields Burial Ground, City Road, London; digital image, “England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(h) Administration of estate of Benjamin Bond Senr, Merchant of Leadenhall Street, also described as late of Tooting, co. Surrey, died intestate, dated 20 December 1763; digital image, “Bank Of England Wills Extracts 1717-1845,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Administration granted to Catherine Bond, his widow and relict.

(i) Burial record, 21 March 1770, for Mrs. Cath. Bond “from Tooting in Surry in a Vault,” Bunhill Fields Burial Ground, City Road, London; digital image, “England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970,” Ancestry < www.ancestry.com >.

(j) Administration of estate of Catherine Bond Senr, of Tooting, Widow, died intestate, dated 29 March 1770; digital image, “Bank Of England Wills Extracts 1717-1845,” Findmypast < www.findmypast.com >. Administration granted to her sons Benjamin Bond & George Bond Esqrs & daughter Elizabeth Snell wife of William Snell.

18A) Elizabeth Bond (1727-1810), m. (1) 1752 Joseph Brooksbank (1725-1759) and (2) William Snell

Sources:

(a)“Register of Births,” Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 3rd ser., vol. 3 (1900), p. 88 < archive.org/details/miscellaneagenea3190howa/page/n197 >. “My Daughter Elizabeth by Catherine my said wife was born at my House in Sithes Lane aforesd on the seventeenth day of December 1727, as witness my Hand the 4th day of April 1749. BENJ. BOND Signed in the presence of us – John Warburton, Somerst. Jas Lane, Richmond.”

(b) Burke’s Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage… 99th ed. (1949), pp. 269-70 (Brooksbank)
< archive.org/stream/burkesgenealogic1949unse#page/268/mode/2up >.

(c) John Hunter, Familae Minorum Gentium. Ed. John W. Clay. Vol. 4 (1896) (The Publications of the Harleian Society, Vol. 40), p. 1285 (Brooksbank pedigree)
< archive.org/details/FamiliaeMinorumGentiumV40/page/n119 >.

LINE B
2A) Joan of Acre (1272-1307), m. (1) 1290 Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl of Gloucester (1243-1295)
3B) Eleanor de Clare (d. 1337), m. (1) 1306 Hugh le Despenser 2nd Lord Despenser (d. 1326)
4B) Sir Edward le Despenser (d. 1342), m. 1335 Anne de Ferrers (d. 1367)
5B) Sir Edward le Despenser, 4th Lord Despenser K.G. (1335/6-1375), m. 1354 Elizabeth de Burghersh (1342-1409)
6B) Margaret le Despenser (d. 1415), m. Sir Robert Ferrers of Chartley [see 6A]

LINE C
1A) Edward I, m. (1) Eleanor of Castle
2C) Elizabeth (1282-1316), m. (2) 1302 Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford & Essex (c1276-1321/2)
3C) Eleanor de Bohun (d. 1363), m. (1) 1327 James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormond (c1305-1336/7)
4C) Pernel Butler (d. after 1365), m. 1352 Gilbert Talbot 3rd Lord Talbot (c1332-1387)
5C) Richard Talbot 4th Lord Talbot (c1361-1396), m. (1) c1383, Ankaret le Strange, Baroness Strange (1361-1413) [see 6D]
6C) John Talbot 1st Earl of Shrewsbury K.G. (c1384-1453), m. (1) c1406/7, Maud Neville (1392-1423)
7C) John Talbot 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury K. G. (c1413-1460), m. c1444 Elizabeth Butler (1420-1473) [see 7E]
8C) Anne Talbot (d. 1494), m. 1467 Sir Henry Vernon of Haddon (d. 1515)
9C) Elizabeth Vernon (d. 1563), m. Sir Robert Corbet of Moreton Corbet, co. Salop (c1477-1513) [see 11A]

LINE D
3B) Eleanor de Clare (d. 1337), m. (1) 1306 Hugh le Despenser 2nd Lord Despenser (d. 1326)
4D) Isabel le Despenser (c1312-after 1356), m. 1320/1 (annulled 1344) Richard FitzAlan 3rd Earl of Arundel & 4th Earl of Surrey (c1313-1375/6)
5D) Mary FitzAlan (d. 1363), m. John le Strange 4th Lord Strange (1332-1361)
6D) Ankaret le Strange, Baroness Strange (1361-1414), m. c1383 Richard Talbot 4th Lord Talbot (c1361-1396) [see 5C]

LINE E
3C) Eleanor de Bohun (d. 1363), m. (1) 1327 James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormond (c1305-1336/7)
4E) James Butler 2nd Earl of Ormond (1331-1382), m. c1346 Elizabeth Darcy (d. 1389/90)
5E) James Butler 3rd Earl of Ormond (after 1360-1405), m. c1386 Anne Welles (alive 1396)
6E) James Butler 4th Earl of Ormonde (1390?-1452), m. (1) 1413 Joan de Beauchamp (d. 1430) [see 6F]
7E) Elizabeth Butler (1420-1473), m. c1444 John Talbot 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury K.G. (c1413-1460) [see 7C]

LINE F
2C) Elizabeth (1282-1316), m. (2) 1302 Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford & Essex (c1276-1321/2)
3F) William de Bohun 1st Earl of Northampton K.G. (c1312-1360), m. 1335/8 Elizabeth de Badlesmere (1313-1356)
4F) Elizabeth de Bohun (d. 1385), m. 1359 Richard FitzAlan 4th Earl of Arundel & 5th Earl of Surrey (1346-1397)
5F) Joan FitzAlan (1375-1435), m. William de Beachamp, Lord Bergavenny K.G. (d. 1411)
6F) Joan de Beauchamp (d. 1430), m. 1413 James Butler 4th Earl of Ormonde (1390?-1452) [see 6E]

Gawin

[leslie...@gmail.com]

And another probable royal descent, this one through Mr. Brooksbank's
great grandmother, Dorothy Olive Lawson.

Dorothy's grandfather, Henry Perceval de Bathe, born 1823,
has a proposed descent from Edward I, outlined in Joseph Foster,
The Royal Lineage of Our Noble and Gentle Families (principally Devonians)
vol. 3:

https://books.google.com/books?id=x6tCAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA866&dq=plunkett+de+Bathe+earle&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLsOWpuavfAhUCQawKHbPdA1oQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=plunkett%20de%20Bathe%20earle&f=false


The Carew lineage is included in the Genealogics database.

The only part that I've had some challenges in tracing back are
the Grosvenor and Daniels generations.


Leslie

[moses...@gmail.com]

I enjoy reading the information that someone sent me On the 0Royal families and Porphyria I really enjoyed the website link and I also enjoyed trying to read through that book what a wonderful book. I will need to purchase some day.
Forgive me for the delay in my responding but as I said I have been struggling with some health problems and I also have a six-year-old son who seems to also have some of the symptoms.

I do have a link to a video that is about porphyria. Part of it is about hemophilia as well.
I thought I had saved the video where they actually show you the difference remains and the genetic testing and talk about it but I cannot find it but I know I'll come across it again and I will save it for you.
Angie Moses

https://youtu.be/BumjEoqKR6c

https://youtu.be/bmQwMllhCUM
It is also believed thay that Vlad Dracul and his father had Porphyria. I have come across a couple references to the subject but I have not found any in-depth investigations.

https://www.geni.com/people/Vlad-the-Impaler-Dracula-Prince-of-Wallachia/6000000002447338054

[taf]

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 12:54:58 AM UTC-8, moses...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is also believed thay that Vlad Dracul and his father had Porphyria.

Well . . . .

The chain of speculation runs as follows:

1) One symptom of porphyria is light sensitivity.

2) vampires, including Count Dracula, suffer from light sensitivity.

3) the character of Count Dracula is very remotely derived from traditions regarding Vlad the Impaler, the son of Vlad Dracul.

4) Therefor Vlad Dracul had porphyria.

I hope it is clear how flimsy this is. All retrospective diagnosis is dubious, because the medical records of historical individuals are woefully incomplete, and there are both few symptoms that are unique to a single disease and few diseases that have a single symptom, making it possible to find some symptom of one's favorite disease in just about anyone, if one is willing to cherry-pick (and I am not excepting the George III-porphyria link here: he had red urine, and he went nuts, both of which can happen independent of porphyria).

In this case, though, it is even more problematic, because the association of Vlad the Impaler with vampirism is a much more recent conceit. He was originally remembered as an example of what historical scholars refer to as 'an evil bastard', but it was only much later that this embodiment of evil came to merge with the originally-distinct vampire legends. To put it another way, Count Dracula derives both from legends of evil Vlad and of vampires, but that doesn't mean that Vlad was a vampire (and it is the symptom of vampirism that is the link to porphyria).

The same legends that have Vlad being a nasty dude portray him as reveling in the struggles of the people he impaled - there is an old woodcut showing him out there, in the full light of day, contemplating the death throes of dozens of impaled enemies. There is no reason to think he was particularly light sensitive, nor could he turn himself into a bat (or rather, a hundred bats - it as a conservation of mass issue).

taf

[leslie...@gmail.com]

There is a pedigree of the Bath / De Bathe family in
Betham's Baronetage of England:

https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_iPjUAAAAMAAJ/page/n91


This family has a reported line of descent from Robert Dillon, Chief Justice,
d. 1597, who apparently has a descent from King Edward I.

https://books.google.com/books?id=U2JzeZ2OjdwC&pg=PA152&dq=robert+dillon+elenor+allen&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLrIH-0s7fAhURjq0KHXsuDM4Q6AEILDAA#v=onepage&q=robert%20dillon%20elenor%20allen&f=false


Leslie

[wjhonson]

Leslie do you have the funeral cert of Richard /Grosvenor/ of Easton, co Chester; esq; Sheriff of Chester ? He died 18 Sep 1619