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HHW
May 19, 2013, 12:39:40 AM5/19/13
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alittlesanity
May 19, 2013, 12:52:03 AM5/19/13
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In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
HHW <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
"whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
"The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion? Or did you simply run
out of David Duke quotes?
HHW <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
"whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
"The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion? Or did you simply run
out of David Duke quotes?
dsharavi
May 19, 2013, 1:39:32 AM5/19/13
to
On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
wrote:
> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
wrote:
> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion? Or did you simply run
> out of David Duke quotes?
lol
> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion? Or did you simply run
> out of David Duke quotes?
I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
dsharavi
May 19, 2013, 1:42:12 AM5/19/13
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On May 18, 9:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
following:
Forbes Op/Ed
5/16/2013 @ 4:26PM |2,232 views
Israeli Researcher Challenges Jewish DNA links to Israel, Calls Those
Who Disagree 'Nazi Sympathizers'
The Genetic Literacy Project reports that the ongoing conflict between
Israel and its neighbors over the origins of the “Jewish people” has
surfaced again as an issue of great controversy—with science in the
crosshairs.
It’s particularly troublesome when a scientist—in this case, an
Israeli molecular geneticist whose motivations appear more personal
and ideological than scientific—stokes the contretemps. The current
to the Caucuses and Eastern Europe.
Elhaik, who is now a post-doctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins, is
recirculating the debunked “Khazarian hypothesis” promoted by
journalist Arthur Koestler in his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe,
written before scientists had the tools to compare genomes and
challenge his conclusion.
Khazarian myth
The Khazarian theory–which historians and scientists now believe
should more accurately be called a myth—was more recently recycled (to
great applause by anti-Israeli activists and some pro-Palestinian
groups) in no less convincing form by Israeli French historian Shlomo
Sand in The Invention of the Jewish People, published in 2008—a book
panned by both historians and geneticists.
Elhaik reengaged the controversy late last year when the Oxford
journal Genome Biology and Evolution published his study, “The Missing
Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the
Khazarian Hypotheses.” The young Jewish researcher challenged the so-
called “Rhineland hypothesis”—the broadly accepted genetic and
historic evidence that about 80 percent of Jewish Ashkenazi males
trace their ancestry to a core population of approximately 20,000
Eastern European Jews who originated in the Middle East. Elhaik wrote
that the Khazars converted to Judaism in the eighth century, although
historians believe and genetic evidence confirms that only a fraction
of the population converted, including almost certainly royalty and
some members of the aristocracy.
A paper published in 2000 by geneticists Harry Ostrer, a professor of
genetics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, and University of
Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer showed that most Ashkenazis,
Italians, North Africans, Iraqi, Iranian, Kurdish and Yemenite Jews
share common Y-DNA haplotypes that are also found among many Arabs
from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. Only a small percentage of the Y-
DNA of Jews originated outside of the Middle East—some in the
Caucuses.
The competing Rhineland and Khazarian theories were most recently
discussed by Ostrer in two studies published in 2012 and in his well
received book, Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People. He
found that geographically and culturally distant Jews still have more
genes in common than they do with non-Jews around them, and that those
genes can be traced back to the Levant, an area including modern-day
Israel. “All European [Ashkenazi] Jews seem connected on the order of
fourth or fifth cousins, Ostrer has said.
The concept of the “Jewish people” remains controversial. The Law of
Return, the Israeli law that established the right of Jews around the
world to settle in Israel and which remains in force today, was a
central tenet of Zionism. The DNA that links Ashkenazi, Sephardi and
Mizrahi, three prominent culturally and geographically distinct Jewish
groups, could conceivably be used to support Zionist territorial
claims —except, as Ostrer has pointed out, some of the same markers
can be found in Palestinians, distant genetic cousins of the Jews, as
well. Palestinians, understandably, want their own ‘right of return’.
That disagreement over the interpretations of Middle Eastern DNA also
pits Jewish traditionalists against a particular strain of secular
Jewish ultra-liberals who have joined with anti-Israeli Arabs and many
non-Jews to argue for an end to Israel as a Jewish nation. Their hero
is the Austrian-born Shlomo Sand—and now Elhaik. His study gained buzz
in neo-Nazi websites and radical anti-Israeli and more radical pro-
Palestinian blogs. For example, the notorious former Ku Klux Klansman
David Duke actually attacked Elhaik in his latest anti-Jewish rant—
Duke’s anti-Semitic beliefs hang on the fact that Jews are genetically
cohesive and conspiratorial. “The disruptive and conflict-ridden
behavior which has marked out Jewish Supremacist activities through
the millennia strongly suggests that Jews have remained more or less
genetically uniform and have … developed a group evolutionary survival
strategy based on a common biological unity — something which strongly
militates against the Khazar theory,” Duke wrote in his blog in
February.
While Elhaik’s work has provided ideological support for those seeking
the destruction of Israel, it’s fallen flat among established
scientists, who peer reviewed his work and found it sloppy at best and
political at worst.
“He’s just wrong,” said Marcus Feldman of Stanford University, a
leading researcher in Jewish genetics. “If you take all of the careful
genetic population analysis that has been done over the last 15 years…
there’s no doubt about the common Middle Eastern origin,” he said. He
added that Elhaik’s paper “is sort of a one-off.”
“It’s an unrealistic premise,” said University of Arizona geneticist
Michael Hammer, one of the world’s top Y-chromosomal researchers.
Discover’s Razib Khan did a textured critique in his Gene Expression
blog, noting the study’s historical fuzziness and its selective use of
data to come up with what seems like a pre-cooked conclusion. As Razib
writes, it’s hardly surprising that we would find a small but sizable
Khazarian contribution to the “Jewish gene pool”. In fact the male
line of my own family traces to the Caucuses, suggesting I’m one of
the 20 percent or so of Jews whose lineage traces to converted royal
Khazarians. But that view is widely acknowledged by Ostrer, Hammer,
Feldman, Michael Thomas and every major researcher in this area—as
summarized in my book, Abraham’s Children: Race, Identity and the DNA
of the Chosen People.
The rebuke of Elhaik’s study apparently has irked the beleaguered and
brash researcher. He’s launched a new offensive—the double entendre is
intentional—as chronicled in the Jewish Forward. Elhaik is now calling
the world’s top geneticists “liars” and “frauds.” When I weighed in on
the magazine’s discussion board, Elhaik responded with academic
restraint, claiming my reporting was no better than the geneticists he
trashed, saying it shared “common ground with the Nazism (sic)
ideology.”
Judaism’s tribal roots
Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is not solely a faith-based
religion. Its origins, as is the case with the other prominent
surviving ancient religion, Zoroastrianism, are tribal. The blood
connections mentioned endlessly in the Hebrew Bible are not just
symbolic; the Jews of ancient Israel were a clan of connected tribes
who coalesced over hundreds of years. While Jesus and later Mohammad
transformed the notion of “blood” into “faith”—one could become a
Christian or Muslim through faith alone—Judaism has always retained an
ancestral component.
In the Torah, that blood link is patrilineal, passed on from father to
son. That tradition is preserved today in the Jewish priesthood, known
as the Aaronite line. According to the Bible (and we have no way to
know if this is historical or apocryphal), Aaron was anointed as the
first Jewish priest and his sons and their descendants became the seed
population of the Jewish priesthood. Jewish Cohanim—the word means
‘priests’ in Hebrew—supervised the inner sanctum until the destruction
of the Second Temple in the first century, after which the Aaronite
line was preserved by tradition, with Cohanim having special
privileges and responsibilities to this day.
Are present day Cohanim descended from Aaron? That question is
unanswerable; we do not even know for certain that Aaron or Moses even
existed. However, DNA studies of the Y chromosome have determined that
a majority of self-proclaimed Cohanim (it’s an oral tradition) has a
set of genetic markers that trace back approximately three thousand
years to a single common ancestor. In other words, if there was no
Aaron, there was certainly a High Priest early in the Jewish tradition
whose ancestors have retained evidence of that tradition in their DNA.
As discussed in Abraham’s Children, Judaism has always retained its
tribal roots even as faith-based religions flourished. In the
centuries after the destruction of the Second Temple in the first
century, Jewish lineage became defined through the mother rather than
the father. Jewishness is now based on a triple helix: belief in God
(although many Jews are agnostic or atheist); recognition of ancient
Israel as a Biblical homeland; and literal blood connection with other
Jews, passed on from generation to generation.
To many people—including and especially Jews sensitive to the Nazi
branding of Jews as a race, which led to the near extinction of the
religion—acknowledging the genetic cohesiveness of Judaism is
uncomfortable. Anything that marks Jews as essentially different runs
the risk of stirring either anti- or philo-Semitism. But that doesn’t
mean we can ignore the factual reality of what Ostrer calls the
“biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.” Acknowledging
the genetic distinctiveness of Jews is “fraught with peril,” but we
must grapple with the hard evidence of “human differences” if we seek
to understand their implications of the age of genetics.
More on genetics and science literacy at the Genetic Literacy Project
Jon Entine, executive director of the Genetic Literacy Project, is a
senior fellow at the Center for Health & Risk Communication and STATS
(Statistical Assessment Service) at George Mason University.
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
following:
Forbes Op/Ed
5/16/2013 @ 4:26PM |2,232 views
Israeli Researcher Challenges Jewish DNA links to Israel, Calls Those
Who Disagree 'Nazi Sympathizers'
The Genetic Literacy Project reports that the ongoing conflict between
Israel and its neighbors over the origins of the “Jewish people” has
surfaced again as an issue of great controversy—with science in the
crosshairs.
It’s particularly troublesome when a scientist—in this case, an
Israeli molecular geneticist whose motivations appear more personal
and ideological than scientific—stokes the contretemps. The current
brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is accompanied
by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens
of studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around
the world, Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief
that most Jews trace their seminal ancestry not to the Middle East but
by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens
of studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around
the world, Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief
to the Caucuses and Eastern Europe.
Elhaik, who is now a post-doctoral researcher at Johns Hopkins, is
recirculating the debunked “Khazarian hypothesis” promoted by
journalist Arthur Koestler in his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe,
written before scientists had the tools to compare genomes and
challenge his conclusion.
Khazarian myth
The Khazarian theory–which historians and scientists now believe
should more accurately be called a myth—was more recently recycled (to
great applause by anti-Israeli activists and some pro-Palestinian
groups) in no less convincing form by Israeli French historian Shlomo
Sand in The Invention of the Jewish People, published in 2008—a book
panned by both historians and geneticists.
Elhaik reengaged the controversy late last year when the Oxford
journal Genome Biology and Evolution published his study, “The Missing
Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the
Khazarian Hypotheses.” The young Jewish researcher challenged the so-
called “Rhineland hypothesis”—the broadly accepted genetic and
historic evidence that about 80 percent of Jewish Ashkenazi males
trace their ancestry to a core population of approximately 20,000
Eastern European Jews who originated in the Middle East. Elhaik wrote
that the Khazars converted to Judaism in the eighth century, although
historians believe and genetic evidence confirms that only a fraction
of the population converted, including almost certainly royalty and
some members of the aristocracy.
A paper published in 2000 by geneticists Harry Ostrer, a professor of
genetics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, and University of
Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer showed that most Ashkenazis,
Italians, North Africans, Iraqi, Iranian, Kurdish and Yemenite Jews
share common Y-DNA haplotypes that are also found among many Arabs
from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. Only a small percentage of the Y-
DNA of Jews originated outside of the Middle East—some in the
Caucuses.
The competing Rhineland and Khazarian theories were most recently
discussed by Ostrer in two studies published in 2012 and in his well
received book, Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People. He
found that geographically and culturally distant Jews still have more
genes in common than they do with non-Jews around them, and that those
genes can be traced back to the Levant, an area including modern-day
Israel. “All European [Ashkenazi] Jews seem connected on the order of
fourth or fifth cousins, Ostrer has said.
The concept of the “Jewish people” remains controversial. The Law of
Return, the Israeli law that established the right of Jews around the
world to settle in Israel and which remains in force today, was a
central tenet of Zionism. The DNA that links Ashkenazi, Sephardi and
Mizrahi, three prominent culturally and geographically distinct Jewish
groups, could conceivably be used to support Zionist territorial
claims —except, as Ostrer has pointed out, some of the same markers
can be found in Palestinians, distant genetic cousins of the Jews, as
well. Palestinians, understandably, want their own ‘right of return’.
That disagreement over the interpretations of Middle Eastern DNA also
pits Jewish traditionalists against a particular strain of secular
Jewish ultra-liberals who have joined with anti-Israeli Arabs and many
non-Jews to argue for an end to Israel as a Jewish nation. Their hero
is the Austrian-born Shlomo Sand—and now Elhaik. His study gained buzz
in neo-Nazi websites and radical anti-Israeli and more radical pro-
Palestinian blogs. For example, the notorious former Ku Klux Klansman
David Duke actually attacked Elhaik in his latest anti-Jewish rant—
Duke’s anti-Semitic beliefs hang on the fact that Jews are genetically
cohesive and conspiratorial. “The disruptive and conflict-ridden
behavior which has marked out Jewish Supremacist activities through
the millennia strongly suggests that Jews have remained more or less
genetically uniform and have … developed a group evolutionary survival
strategy based on a common biological unity — something which strongly
militates against the Khazar theory,” Duke wrote in his blog in
February.
While Elhaik’s work has provided ideological support for those seeking
the destruction of Israel, it’s fallen flat among established
scientists, who peer reviewed his work and found it sloppy at best and
political at worst.
“He’s just wrong,” said Marcus Feldman of Stanford University, a
leading researcher in Jewish genetics. “If you take all of the careful
genetic population analysis that has been done over the last 15 years…
there’s no doubt about the common Middle Eastern origin,” he said. He
added that Elhaik’s paper “is sort of a one-off.”
“It’s an unrealistic premise,” said University of Arizona geneticist
Michael Hammer, one of the world’s top Y-chromosomal researchers.
Discover’s Razib Khan did a textured critique in his Gene Expression
blog, noting the study’s historical fuzziness and its selective use of
data to come up with what seems like a pre-cooked conclusion. As Razib
writes, it’s hardly surprising that we would find a small but sizable
Khazarian contribution to the “Jewish gene pool”. In fact the male
line of my own family traces to the Caucuses, suggesting I’m one of
the 20 percent or so of Jews whose lineage traces to converted royal
Khazarians. But that view is widely acknowledged by Ostrer, Hammer,
Feldman, Michael Thomas and every major researcher in this area—as
summarized in my book, Abraham’s Children: Race, Identity and the DNA
of the Chosen People.
The rebuke of Elhaik’s study apparently has irked the beleaguered and
brash researcher. He’s launched a new offensive—the double entendre is
intentional—as chronicled in the Jewish Forward. Elhaik is now calling
the world’s top geneticists “liars” and “frauds.” When I weighed in on
the magazine’s discussion board, Elhaik responded with academic
restraint, claiming my reporting was no better than the geneticists he
trashed, saying it shared “common ground with the Nazism (sic)
ideology.”
Judaism’s tribal roots
Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is not solely a faith-based
religion. Its origins, as is the case with the other prominent
surviving ancient religion, Zoroastrianism, are tribal. The blood
connections mentioned endlessly in the Hebrew Bible are not just
symbolic; the Jews of ancient Israel were a clan of connected tribes
who coalesced over hundreds of years. While Jesus and later Mohammad
transformed the notion of “blood” into “faith”—one could become a
Christian or Muslim through faith alone—Judaism has always retained an
ancestral component.
In the Torah, that blood link is patrilineal, passed on from father to
son. That tradition is preserved today in the Jewish priesthood, known
as the Aaronite line. According to the Bible (and we have no way to
know if this is historical or apocryphal), Aaron was anointed as the
first Jewish priest and his sons and their descendants became the seed
population of the Jewish priesthood. Jewish Cohanim—the word means
‘priests’ in Hebrew—supervised the inner sanctum until the destruction
of the Second Temple in the first century, after which the Aaronite
line was preserved by tradition, with Cohanim having special
privileges and responsibilities to this day.
Are present day Cohanim descended from Aaron? That question is
unanswerable; we do not even know for certain that Aaron or Moses even
existed. However, DNA studies of the Y chromosome have determined that
a majority of self-proclaimed Cohanim (it’s an oral tradition) has a
set of genetic markers that trace back approximately three thousand
years to a single common ancestor. In other words, if there was no
Aaron, there was certainly a High Priest early in the Jewish tradition
whose ancestors have retained evidence of that tradition in their DNA.
As discussed in Abraham’s Children, Judaism has always retained its
tribal roots even as faith-based religions flourished. In the
centuries after the destruction of the Second Temple in the first
century, Jewish lineage became defined through the mother rather than
the father. Jewishness is now based on a triple helix: belief in God
(although many Jews are agnostic or atheist); recognition of ancient
Israel as a Biblical homeland; and literal blood connection with other
Jews, passed on from generation to generation.
To many people—including and especially Jews sensitive to the Nazi
branding of Jews as a race, which led to the near extinction of the
religion—acknowledging the genetic cohesiveness of Judaism is
uncomfortable. Anything that marks Jews as essentially different runs
the risk of stirring either anti- or philo-Semitism. But that doesn’t
mean we can ignore the factual reality of what Ostrer calls the
“biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.” Acknowledging
the genetic distinctiveness of Jews is “fraught with peril,” but we
must grapple with the hard evidence of “human differences” if we seek
to understand their implications of the age of genetics.
More on genetics and science literacy at the Genetic Literacy Project
Jon Entine, executive director of the Genetic Literacy Project, is a
senior fellow at the Center for Health & Risk Communication and STATS
(Statistical Assessment Service) at George Mason University.
alittlesanity
May 19, 2013, 1:48:16 AM5/19/13
to
In article <95c05773-7455-40c9...@wb17g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
He's a human scanner. He does not understand what he posts. He
simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
Zev
May 19, 2013, 1:55:37 AM5/19/13
to
With friends like himself, Hunter doesn't need enemies.
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 8:51:39 AM5/19/13
to
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 8:52:03 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:55:37 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Doesn't he, Jewish person? <B>
wrote:
The Revd
May 19, 2013, 8:59:54 AM5/19/13
to
Why bother with "Hunter"? He's a stupid sack of shite.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:13:47 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
Thanks so much for this informative and accurate article, H! Glad to
see that you've finally come to your senses. what little is left of
them.
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
Thanks so much for this informative and accurate article, H! Glad to
see that you've finally come to your senses. what little is left of
them.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:15:07 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
just one small issue, you linked to page 2 of the article. Just to
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
make sure everyone here can read this excellent article, here's a
tinyurl to page 1.
http://tinyurl.com/beozfwd
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:16:24 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:42:12 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On May 18, 9:39�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
>And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
>following:
Can his mouth truly be big enough to accomodate both his feet, his
legs, and his ass?
wrote:
>On May 18, 9:39�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
>And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
>following:
legs, and his ass?
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:18:26 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:39:32 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I do believe that calling HHW an idiot is an insult to all idiots.
wrote:
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:18:50 AM5/19/13
to
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:21:58 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
very good article nonetheless.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:36:45 AM5/19/13
to
The post DID come from H. Sorry, folks.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 9:38:32 AM5/19/13
to
On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
I treid my best to rescue you, H. I checked the posting host
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-challenges-jewish-dna-links-to-israel-calls-those-who-disagree-nazi-sympathizers/2/
incorrectly and posted that this was a forgery. Part of it I am sure
was that I couldn't believe you'd post this article. But I erred - you
did in fact post the article. You've got some serious issues, poor
man. But thanks again forthe great post.
Message has been deleted
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:20:30 PM5/19/13
to
On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:51:39 -0700, The Rectu, the resident,
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
Don't you, The Rectu? <GB>
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:20:56 PM5/19/13
to
On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:52:03 -0700, The Rectu, the resident,
Does he, The Rectu? <G>
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:22:02 PM5/19/13
to
On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:59:54 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll
<pee...@degenerate.Griks> wrote:
>Why bother with "The Peeler"? He's a stupid sack of Grik skata!
Fuck you, Jewish person!
<pee...@degenerate.Griks> wrote:
>Why bother with "The Peeler"? He's a stupid sack of Grik skata!
Fuck you, Jewish person!
dsharavi
May 19, 2013, 12:29:26 PM5/19/13
to
On May 19, 6:21 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> very good article nonetheless.
It is indeed a good article. And it IS from Hunter.
> I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> very good article nonetheless.
dsharavi
May 19, 2013, 12:30:17 PM5/19/13
to
On May 19, 6:36 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
a change, wasn't it? Maybe he guzzled more tequila last night at his
"comida" than was expected.
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:21:58 -0400, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> ><coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> >I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> >post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> >been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> >very good article nonetheless.
>
> Looks like I just had a senior moment, even though I'm not a senior.
> The post DID come from H. Sorry, folks.
You're forgiven. It was quite a shock to see Hunter posting sense, for
> >I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> >post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> >been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> >very good article nonetheless.
>
> Looks like I just had a senior moment, even though I'm not a senior.
> The post DID come from H. Sorry, folks.
a change, wasn't it? Maybe he guzzled more tequila last night at his
"comida" than was expected.
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:31:52 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:40:38 +0200, The Rectu, the resident,
>senility. LOL
Seems, it looks like, The Rectu! LOL
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:48:16 +0000 (UTC), a little sanity, please wrote:
>
>>> lol
>>> I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
>>
>> He's a human scanner. He does not understand what he posts. He
>> simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
>> words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
>> It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
>> articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
>> him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
>
>That's EXACTLY how I work too! Looks like, I'm having, issues with my, progressing
>
>>> lol
>>> I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
>>
>> He's a human scanner. He does not understand what he posts. He
>> simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
>> words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
>> It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
>> articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
>> him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
>
>senility. LOL
Seems, it looks like, The Rectu! LOL
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:38:39 PM5/19/13
to
On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:18:19 +0200, The Rectu, the resident,
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
Can't you, The Rectu? <GB>
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:52:03 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>te:
>>>
>>>> I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
>>>
>>>I read the article and couldn't believe my eyes.
>>>With friends like himself, Hunter doesn't need enemies.
>>
>> Doesn't he, Jewish person? <B>
>
>Can't I see it, Grik retard that I am? <BG>
>te:
>>>
>>>> I think ole tequila-brain missed the point of the entire article.
>>>
>>>I read the article and couldn't believe my eyes.
>>>With friends like himself, Hunter doesn't need enemies.
>>
>> Doesn't he, Jewish person? <B>
>
Can't you, The Rectu? <GB>
The Peeler
May 19, 2013, 12:39:03 PM5/19/13
to
On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:17:01 +0200, The Rectu, the resident,
Is it, The Rectu? <B>
psychopath of sci and scj, FAKING his time zone, again and
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
>On Sun, 19 May 2013 05:51:39 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>He's a human scanner. He does not understand what he posts. He
>>>simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
>>>words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
>>>It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
>>>articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
>>>him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
>>
>> Do you, really think, so psycho? <G>
>
>It's a fact, psycho!
>>>simply browses the web, searching for articles which contain
>>>words such as "bad", and also the word "Jew" in them, and posts.
>>>It's hardly surprising that, here and there, he stumbles on
>>>articles which are counterproductive to his goal... think about
>>>him as a rather primitive, 1970's AI program on the loose.
>>
>> Do you, really think, so psycho? <G>
>
Is it, The Rectu? <B>
HHW
May 19, 2013, 3:33:15 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 12:42 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 9:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
> following:
No joke, I'm going to post everything I run across about Elhaik.There
> On May 18, 9:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
> following:
will inevitably be endless attacks upon him. We'll see it all I hope.
There was a somewhat ill-tempered one earlier today by Elhaik himself
which, if it's actually by him, indicates that he could use an English
editor. His native language has to be Hebrew.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 3:48:21 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 19, 12:42�am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 18, 9:39�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>>
>> And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
>> following:
>
>No joke, I'm going to post everything I run across about Elhaik.
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! Yeah, that makes sense. Post an article that
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 19, 12:42�am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 18, 9:39�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>>
>> And what a joke on Hunter to have posted the above link to the
>> following:
>
>No joke, I'm going to post everything I run across about Elhaik.
completely contradicts your promotion of Elhaik and his defunct ideas.
H, I keep telling you, you are not smart enough to lie - you're gonna
get caught. You are not bright enough to see that anyone in this group
knows that you would not have posted that article on purpose - it
completely contradicts everything you've been saying forthe past
couple of weeks. You screwed up royally, and now, instead of just
slinking away as any normal person would do, you try some bullshit
about posting everything you can find about elhaik. Hehe, nice try!
It's just incredible that you lack the ability to see that everyone
will see right through that lamest of lame excsuses for posting what
you posted. Your combination of the naivete of a child, the stupidity
of an imbecile, and the ease of lying of a snake results in you being
the carnival clown of SCI. Thanks forthe laughs!
Speaking of laughs...
http://tinyurl.com/baq4lbc
There
>will inevitably be endless attacks upon him.
We'll see it all I hope.
>There was a somewhat ill-tempered one earlier today by Elhaik himself
>which, if it's actually by him, indicates that he could use an English
>editor. His native language has to be Hebrew.
words!!!
HHW
May 19, 2013, 3:55:27 PM5/19/13
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On May 18, 11:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
>
> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
of interest.
Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
in order to treat genetic disease correctly
> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> eviscerated his work.
Has that evisceration actually happened or is this critic confusing
the chronology of articles?
In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
mention him as not much time has gone by. The author is hinting here
that they are actually critics of it. But don't hide anything new
from us, devorah.
wrote:
> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
of interest.
Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
in order to treat genetic disease correctly
> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> eviscerated his work.
the chronology of articles?
In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
I'm guessing not. They probably predate his work and don't so much as
>
> Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
mention him as not much time has gone by. The author is hinting here
that they are actually critics of it. But don't hide anything new
from us, devorah.
HHW
May 19, 2013, 4:02:08 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
lose the match. Keep an eye on the letters section of the Oxford
Journal which published Elhaik's article.
> On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
You lost the last round on this subject. Make a note here: you will
> > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
lose the match. Keep an eye on the letters section of the Oxford
Journal which published Elhaik's article.
HHW
May 19, 2013, 4:13:52 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 8:13 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> Thanks so much for this informative and accurate article, H! Glad to
> see that you've finally come to your senses. what little is left of
> them.
See what I've written above, Miss Richie.
> Thanks so much for this informative and accurate article, H! Glad to
> see that you've finally come to your senses. what little is left of
> them.
HHW
May 19, 2013, 4:16:11 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 8:21 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> very good article nonetheless.
Ha, being read in Israel.
> I just checked the posting host. Although the article is good, the
> post originated from an Israeli poster. Whoever you are, it would have
> been more effective had you simply poasted as yourself. But it's a
> very good article nonetheless.
HHW
May 19, 2013, 4:19:11 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 8:38 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> I treid my best to rescue you, H. I checked the posting host
> incorrectly and posted that this was a forgery. Part of it I am sure
> was that I couldn't believe you'd post this article. But I erred - you
> did in fact post the article. You've got some serious issues, poor
> man. But thanks again forthe great post.
Indeed, I did. I'm going to post everything I find. I ask you to do
> I treid my best to rescue you, H. I checked the posting host
> incorrectly and posted that this was a forgery. Part of it I am sure
> was that I couldn't believe you'd post this article. But I erred - you
> did in fact post the article. You've got some serious issues, poor
> man. But thanks again forthe great post.
the same thing.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 4:53:42 PM5/19/13
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drahcir
May 19, 2013, 4:57:40 PM5/19/13
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enough to see how transparent your hilarious attempt to save face is.
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 4:59:34 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:55:27 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 18, 11:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
>wrote:
>> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
>This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
>of interest.
>
>Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
>with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
>in order to treat genetic disease correctly
>
>> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
>> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
>> eviscerated his work.
>
>Has that evisceration actually happened or is this critic confusing
>the chronology of articles?
YOu oughta know, you imbecile, since you posted the article!!!
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 18, 11:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
>wrote:
>> In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
>This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
>of interest.
>
>Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
>with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
>in order to treat genetic disease correctly
>
>> "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
>> accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
>> eviscerated his work.
>
>Has that evisceration actually happened or is this critic confusing
>the chronology of articles?
drahcir
May 19, 2013, 5:05:03 PM5/19/13
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plainolamerican
May 20, 2013, 10:41:46 AM5/20/13
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On May 18, 11:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
“biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.”
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
---
modern scientists agree .... there's only one race of humans.
those who use their color or any other differences for an advantage
are to be ignored.
HHW
May 25, 2013, 3:38:52 AM5/25/13
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On May 19, 2:48 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
Of course, hilarious, but his parents are Italian and Iranian. I'm not
sure he was even born in Israel.
>
> read more »
drahcir
May 25, 2013, 9:41:14 AM5/25/13
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stupidity.
HHW
May 25, 2013, 4:48:37 PM5/25/13
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On May 25, 8:41 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 00:38:52 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 00:38:52 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
And getting you people out of the faces of our Congress and the IDF
out of Palestine. I'm just a tiny grain of sand on the beach but every
one of them creates a new reality.
>
> read more »
drahcir
May 25, 2013, 5:02:26 PM5/25/13
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I simply care about the truth getting out.
liar here probably not far from a dozen times. Proven beyond any
refutation. Proven so as to make you flee. So, please get a grip.
>And getting you people out of the faces of our Congress and the IDF
>out of Palestine. I'm just a tiny grain of sand on the beach but every
>one of them creates a new reality.
H, YOU ARE A SCREAM!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
HHW
May 25, 2013, 8:50:08 PM5/25/13
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"I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
anything immoral in it."
David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
anything immoral in it."
David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
drahcir
May 25, 2013, 9:01:01 PM5/25/13
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"I am the world's biggest idiot. I have personally checked, and there
is no bigger idiot than me in the entire world."
- HHW, soc.culture.israel archives, 12 June 2008
Aviroce
May 26, 2013, 11:22:43 AM5/26/13
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Yes. HHW must be wrong. We all know Jews are the Chosen People, and
they are above all people according to HaShem. HaShem said that and
HaShem is the God of Gods. Every Jew is a God. Others are not
human. Thus there is nothing wrong about Ethnic cleansing especially
when Jews are concerned. Who can accuse God of Ethnic Cleansing? God
does what God does uninhibited. HHW calls it Ethnic cleansing and you
call it untrue. HHW is not a God to know. You are God and you know
all the truth. People of the world need a good education about the
Special People called Jews; they are among us and they are superior to
us. All we need to do is worship Jews. In a Twilight Zone Episode,
Serling introduces a Mexican child who is supposed to come from
above. The boy argues that people of earth tend to kill strangers
saying, "If God comes to Earth, would these people persecute Him being
a stranger?" and he answers by saying, "His son (Jesus) was killed by
the People." I guess my argument becomes one God killed by many Gods
representing the only God HaShem. We are not smart enough to
understand Ethnic Cleansing in the sense of father of Zionism, Father
of the Likud. Amen.
On May 25, 6:01 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
they are above all people according to HaShem. HaShem said that and
HaShem is the God of Gods. Every Jew is a God. Others are not
human. Thus there is nothing wrong about Ethnic cleansing especially
when Jews are concerned. Who can accuse God of Ethnic Cleansing? God
does what God does uninhibited. HHW calls it Ethnic cleansing and you
call it untrue. HHW is not a God to know. You are God and you know
all the truth. People of the world need a good education about the
Special People called Jews; they are among us and they are superior to
us. All we need to do is worship Jews. In a Twilight Zone Episode,
Serling introduces a Mexican child who is supposed to come from
above. The boy argues that people of earth tend to kill strangers
saying, "If God comes to Earth, would these people persecute Him being
a stranger?" and he answers by saying, "His son (Jesus) was killed by
the People." I guess my argument becomes one God killed by many Gods
representing the only God HaShem. We are not smart enough to
understand Ethnic Cleansing in the sense of father of Zionism, Father
of the Likud. Amen.
On May 25, 6:01 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
drahcir
May 26, 2013, 11:25:13 AM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:22:43 -0700 (PDT), Aviroce
<dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Typical avi waste of bandwidth below. Avi, next time, please keep it
short, for the sake of the internet's future. "Jews suck" will
suffice.
<dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Typical avi waste of bandwidth below. Avi, next time, please keep it
short, for the sake of the internet's future. "Jews suck" will
suffice.
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 11:55:02 AM5/26/13
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this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
not
see in it anything immoral."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
Both are, of course, lies. The question is: Are you man enough to own
up to your lies?
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 11:55:44 AM5/26/13
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On May 25, 1:48 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is not a game, Missy. I simply care about the truth getting out.
From your record here, truth is the last thing you care about.
> This is not a game, Missy. I simply care about the truth getting out.
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 12:01:50 PM5/26/13
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On May 25, 12:38 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 2:48 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> On May 19, 2:48 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> > >There was a somewhat ill-tempered one earlier today by Elhaik himself
> > >which, if it's actually by him, indicates that he could use an English
> > >editor. His native language has to be Hebrew.
> > Very incisive observation there, H!!! O geez, this is too funny for
> > words!!!
>
> I'll redo that. His native language could be Hebrew Italian or Farsi.
> Of course, hilarious, but his parents are Italian and Iranian. I'm not
> sure he was even born in Israel.
He was born in Beersheba. Do you know where Beersheba is, Hunter?
> > >which, if it's actually by him, indicates that he could use an English
> > >editor. His native language has to be Hebrew.
> > Very incisive observation there, H!!! O geez, this is too funny for
> > words!!!
>
> I'll redo that. His native language could be Hebrew Italian or Farsi.
> Of course, hilarious, but his parents are Italian and Iranian. I'm not
> sure he was even born in Israel.
Next lame excuse .....
>
> read more »
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 12:02:51 PM5/26/13
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On May 19, 1:02 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > [...]
>
> > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>
> You lost the last round on this subject.
I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
> On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > [...]
>
> > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>
> You lost the last round on this subject.
up with that?
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 12:05:34 PM5/26/13
to
On May 19, 12:55 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 11:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
> of interest.
It's a credible observation based on Elhaik's writings.
> On May 18, 11:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> This is a personal attack characteristic of a critic with a conflict
> of interest.
>
> Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
> with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
> in order to treat genetic disease correctly
So? You claim your motivation for squatting on these NGS is
> Elhaik very credibly says that his motivations are medical. He works
> with physicians. His medical colleagues have to get the genetics right
> in order to treat genetic disease correctly
patriotic.
> > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > eviscerated his work.
> Has that evisceration actually happened or is this critic confusing
> the chronology of articles?
>
> > In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>
> I'm guessing not.
> They probably predate his work and don't so much as
> mention him as not much time has gone by.
drahcir
May 26, 2013, 12:11:01 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
What I fail to comprehend is that you've corrected this quote of his
probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
proof only of his obliviousness.
wrote:
probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
proof only of his obliviousness.
The Peeler
May 26, 2013, 12:26:21 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Good, question Deborag!
<tsk>
wrote:
<tsk>
The Peeler
May 26, 2013, 12:47:49 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Oh, the IRONY!!!! A Jewish person talking about lies! LOL2
wrote:
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The Peeler
May 26, 2013, 2:18:17 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 19:18:03 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:26:21 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
Isn't it, psycho? <GB>
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:26:21 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>
>>>I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
>>>up with that?
>>
>> Good, question Deborag!
>> <tsk>
>
>Is it, blithering idiot? <BG>
>
>>>
>>>I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
>>>up with that?
>>
>> Good, question Deborag!
>> <tsk>
>
Isn't it, psycho? <GB>
The Peeler
May 26, 2013, 2:18:02 PM5/26/13
to
On Sun, 26 May 2013 19:17:03 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:47:49 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>
>That's right, mangina! <BG>
Is, it malaga? <GB>
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 May 2013 09:47:49 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>What new bullshit site did you get this from? Last time you lied about
>>>this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
>>>""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
>>>not
>>>see in it anything immoral."
>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
>>>
>>>Both are, of course, lies. The question is: Are you man enough to own
>>>up to your lies?
>>
>> Oh, the IRONY!!!! NONE of us jews ever is man enough!
>>>this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
>>>""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
>>>not
>>>see in it anything immoral."
>>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
>>>
>>>Both are, of course, lies. The question is: Are you man enough to own
>>>up to your lies?
>>
>
>That's right, mangina! <BG>
Is, it malaga? <GB>
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 3:15:23 PM5/26/13
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On May 26, 9:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
Hunter isn't oblivious; just extremely dishonest.
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
HHW
May 26, 2013, 8:11:14 PM5/26/13
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Here's Brook on emerging Khazar issues. They're gradually nailing
things down:
1. What was the extent of Judaism in the Khazar Empire?
According to professors Bozena Werbart and Jonathan Shepard, the
Tengri "sun-amulets" disappeared after the 830s from Khazarian graves,
as did other shamanistic possessions, indicating a dramatic shift in
religion in the Khazar kaganate.
There is also the opinion, most recently supported by Vladimir
Petrukhin in his essay in Pletnyova's "Ocherki Khazarskoy
Arkheologii" (1999), that the Chelarevo gravesite in present-day
northern Serbia, with its broken bricks possessing images of the
menorah, shofar, and Star of David, contains the bones of Judaized
Khazarians.
These discoveries may turn out to be just as important as the Kievan
Letter in terms of proving beyond all reasonable doubt that the
Khazars converted to Judaism in large numbers.
2. When did the Khazars convert to Judaism: 8th or 9th century?
This is a highly controversial question, based upon contradictory
information from various primary sources. The earliest possible date
is Yehuda HaLevi's estimate of 740. Abd-al-Jabbar al-Hamdani and other
Middle Eastern writers claim the conversion happened during the reign
of the Abbasids. Al-Masudi would have us believe that the conversion
took place sometime between 786 and 809.
But according to Constantine Zuckerman of the Collège de France
(Paris), the Khazars' conversion to Judaism probably took place in the
9th century rather than in the 8th century. This argument has also
been taken up by Jonathan Shepard and Kevin Brook, who state that the
first record of Khazarian Judaism dates only to about the year 864,
and that the Byzantine missionaries Cyril and Methodius upon their
arrival in Khazaria in 860 approached and debated with a people whom
had not yet adopted full Judaism. It used to be argued that the
Khazars could not have sincerely adopted Judaism if they still had
good relations with the Christian Byzantines even in the late 8th
century. But historical analysis cancels this argument by showing that
the decline in the Byzantine-Khazar relationship is tied directly to
the time of the Khazar conversion to Judaism, and may be dated as
occurring sometime during or after the 830s. A conversion date in the
mid-to-late 830s is supported now also by the Moses coin (discussed
below) which dates from 837-838, whereas just a few years earlier
(around 834) the Khazars and Byzantines were cooperating on building
Sarkel.
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 8:25:04 PM5/26/13
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On May 26, 5:11 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 11:02 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 19, 1:02 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> > > > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > > > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > > > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > > > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > > > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > > > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>
> > > You lost the last round on this subject.
>
> > I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
> > up with that?
>
> There was a time when Kevin Brook was Ratner's primary source:
So?
> On May 26, 11:02 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 19, 1:02 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>
> > > > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
> > > > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
> > > > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
> > > > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
> > > > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>
> > > > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>
> > > You lost the last round on this subject.
>
> > I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
> > up with that?
>
> There was a time when Kevin Brook was Ratner's primary source:
> Here's Brook on emerging Khazar issues. They're gradually nailing
> things down
Kevin Brook.
[flush]
HHW
May 26, 2013, 9:04:38 PM5/26/13
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On May 26, 11:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
"transfer". They still use it.
> >What new bullshit site did you get this from?
It comes from the Central Zionist Archives for Chrissake. That's the
Holy Grail so long as there was anything left in them at the time they
were opened to scholars something like 40 years after the events in
question.
Last time you lied about
> >this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
> >""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
> >not
> >see in it anything immoral."
I note that the parenthetic material differs. I was more in tune with
the law.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
>
> >Both are, of course, lies. The question is: Are you man enough to own
> >up to your lies?
One doesn't have to own up to something which is the truth.
Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
pay me a thousand dollars.
translated into English. The translators' style differs a little. They
came from different sources. Mine at this time is a history which
deals with the Nakba. It's on my desk as we type. The quote appears at
the beginning of the Preface on page xi. Don't pick nits. Ten years
before the Nakba Ben-Gurion was planning the expulsion of the
Palestinians. He had even begun work on the actual operational plans.
Over a half century before Nakba Herzl was writing about doing it.
There is lots of other evidence about that on the record. I'll bet
that quote is even in Benny Morris' ground breaking book about the
Origins of the Palestinian Refugee Problem (sic?) No one doubts the
truth of it today. Your patriotic Zionist history of Israel has
collapsed in a shambles. The Nakba happened, accompanied by many
massacres and the crimes involved were perpetrated with 'malice
aforethought'. The Revisionists stand on top of the heap, victorious.
And the perpetrators should have been hanged or imprisoned for life
like all common war criminals.
Here it is: ISBN 10:1-85168-467-0 It has some meaningless stylistic
editing and editing flaws but is the single most pivotal book in
modern Israeli historiography. And the minute you start defaming the
great Israeli scholar who wrote it, I'll deluge you with quotations
and commentary based upon it.
It's pathetic, Ratner, that that you can't accept even the historical
record but must pretend every bit of incriminating evidence is a
"lie".
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On May 25, 5:50 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 25, 4:02 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
> >> anything immoral in it."
> >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
> >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity. The
> >On May 25, 5:50 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 25, 4:02 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
> >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
> >> anything immoral in it."
> >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
> >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
"transfer". They still use it.
> >What new bullshit site did you get this from?
Holy Grail so long as there was anything left in them at the time they
were opened to scholars something like 40 years after the events in
question.
Last time you lied about
> >this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
> >""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
> >not
> >see in it anything immoral."
the law.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
>
> >Both are, of course, lies. The question is: Are you man enough to own
> >up to your lies?
Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
pay me a thousand dollars.
>
> What I fail to comprehend is that you've corrected this quote of his
> probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
> witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
> proof only of his obliviousness.
The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner. It's obviously been
> What I fail to comprehend is that you've corrected this quote of his
> probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
> witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
> proof only of his obliviousness.
translated into English. The translators' style differs a little. They
came from different sources. Mine at this time is a history which
deals with the Nakba. It's on my desk as we type. The quote appears at
the beginning of the Preface on page xi. Don't pick nits. Ten years
before the Nakba Ben-Gurion was planning the expulsion of the
Palestinians. He had even begun work on the actual operational plans.
Over a half century before Nakba Herzl was writing about doing it.
There is lots of other evidence about that on the record. I'll bet
that quote is even in Benny Morris' ground breaking book about the
Origins of the Palestinian Refugee Problem (sic?) No one doubts the
truth of it today. Your patriotic Zionist history of Israel has
collapsed in a shambles. The Nakba happened, accompanied by many
massacres and the crimes involved were perpetrated with 'malice
aforethought'. The Revisionists stand on top of the heap, victorious.
And the perpetrators should have been hanged or imprisoned for life
like all common war criminals.
Here it is: ISBN 10:1-85168-467-0 It has some meaningless stylistic
editing and editing flaws but is the single most pivotal book in
modern Israeli historiography. And the minute you start defaming the
great Israeli scholar who wrote it, I'll deluge you with quotations
and commentary based upon it.
It's pathetic, Ratner, that that you can't accept even the historical
record but must pretend every bit of incriminating evidence is a
"lie".
drahcir
May 26, 2013, 9:25:44 PM5/26/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 11:11�am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >On May 25, 5:50�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On May 25, 4:02�pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>>
>> >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
>> >> anything immoral in it."
>> >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
>> >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
>
>For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity. The
>Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
>"transfer". They still use it.
That's not the end of it, you lying, deceptive carnival clown.
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 11:11�am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >On May 25, 5:50�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On May 25, 4:02�pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>>
>> >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
>> >> anything immoral in it."
>> >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
>> >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
>
>For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity. The
>Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
>"transfer". They still use it.
Everyone here knows that you pulled it out of context so that it could
seem like it was ben gurion's idea, thus more sinister. You avoid
context to further your lying ways, but you are so fucking stupid, you
think there's a soul in this group who doesn't get it. Unbelievable.
>
>> >What new bullshit site did you get this from?
>
>It comes from the Central Zionist Archives for Chrissake.
within a reply to me.
That's the
>Holy Grail so long as there was anything left in them at the time they
>were opened to scholars something like 40 years after the events in
>question.
>
> Last time you lied about
>> >this, the bullshit site you used provided you with:
>> >""I support compulsory [Palestinian Arab population] transfer. I do
>> >not
>> >see in it anything immoral."
>
>I note that the parenthetic material differs. I was more in tune with
>the law.
>
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/4fe77913ea0274a3
>>
>> >Both are, of course, lies. The question is: �Are you man enough to own
>> >up to your lies?
>
>One doesn't have to own up to something which is the truth.
parenthetical without reference and dislodged the quote from its
context, which completely changes its meaning. Again, everyone knows
it, they just see it as a senile antisemite forgetting that he got
caught with this one 20 times.
>
>Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
>certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
>you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
>pay me a thousand dollars.
>>
>> What I fail to comprehend is that you've corrected this quote of his
>> probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
>> witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
>> proof only of his obliviousness.
>
>The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
no, it's not. Were it the same, you'd have posted the unadorned quote
>Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
>certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
>you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
>pay me a thousand dollars.
>>
>> What I fail to comprehend is that you've corrected this quote of his
>> probably 20 times or more, Anyone who's ever read this group has
>> witnessed it. He knows he's ly;ing with it, yet he continues. It is
>> proof only of his obliviousness.
>
>The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
in context and not show yourself yet again to be a dishonest piece of
drek. You omitted the context for a reason, just as you pulled the
subject of the Greenwald thread I got you on. you're a deceptive
manipulator through and through, and you can't deny it. Here's the
quote in context. Finding it was easy, there's probably 20 deb posts
containing it in reply to you. But you keep doing it because you're
not only a natural-born liar, you're also a forgetful, senile twit:
""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
it."
Sheesh, look at the mound of HHWBabble below!
you have to pay the price. But, you're used to it, dishonest,
deceptive serial l;iar that you are.
By the way, we have compulsory transfer in the US all the time The
term for it is "eminent domain".
dsharavi
May 26, 2013, 9:42:08 PM5/26/13
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On May 26, 6:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 11:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On May 25, 5:50 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On May 25, 4:02 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> > >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
> > >> anything immoral in it."
> > >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
> > >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
> For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity.
For the record, you're a god-damned liar, and your fake quote has been
> On May 26, 11:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On May 25, 5:50 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On May 25, 4:02 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, 25 May 2013 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> > >> "I am for compulsory transfer (ethnic cleansing); I do not see
> > >> anything immoral in it."
> > >> David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June, 1938, Central
> > >> Zionist Archives, minutes, 12 June 1938
> For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity.
debunked more times than your IQ points.
HHW
May 27, 2013, 2:07:31 AM5/27/13
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On May 26, 11:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 08:55:02 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
HHW
May 27, 2013, 2:10:05 AM5/27/13
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HHW
May 27, 2013, 2:21:19 AM5/27/13
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> >Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
> >certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
> >you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
> >pay me a thousand dollars.
>
> >The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
>
>
HHW
May 27, 2013, 2:23:52 AM5/27/13
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That's possible you know. And, I have never set foot in that Emerald
City.
dusty
May 27, 2013, 4:26:54 AM5/27/13
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On May 21, 12:41 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 18, 11:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> “biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.”
> ---
> modern scientists agree .... there's only one race of humans.
>
> those who use their color or any other differences for an advantage
> are to be ignored.
wrote:
> On May 18, 11:39 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2013/05/16/israeli-researcher-c...
>
> “biological basis of Jewishness” and “Jewish genetics.”
> ---
> modern scientists agree .... there's only one race of humans.
>
> those who use their color or any other differences for an advantage
> are to be ignored.
drahcir
May 27, 2013, 9:11:24 AM5/27/13
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And, haha, the parenthetical reference to ethnic cleansing is
accurate.
thirties, fool. It was first used in 1988:
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/14/magazine/on-language-ethnic-cleansing.html
Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
it."
of posting without lying. if you do, you get a lollipop.
drahcir
May 27, 2013, 9:12:32 AM5/27/13
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dsharavi
May 28, 2013, 12:53:39 AM5/28/13
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drahcir
May 28, 2013, 7:52:41 AM5/28/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 17:11:14 -0700 (PDT), HHW
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 11:02 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 19, 1:02 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> > > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > [...]
>>
>> > > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>>
>> > > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
>> > > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
>> > > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
>> > > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
>> > > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>>
>> > > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>>
>> > You lost the last round on this subject.
>>
>> I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
>> up with that?
>
>There was a time when Kevin Brook was Ratner's primary source:
I gotta keep my eye on this rat. Every time he emerges from his hole,
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 11:02 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 19, 1:02 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 19, 12:39 am, dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On May 18, 9:52 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > In article <c72daf0f-ec15-42d6-8425-e2720bb4d...@z10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> > > > HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > [...]
>>
>> > > > "whose motivations appear more personal and ideological than scientific"...
>>
>> > > > "The current brouhaha arises over a recent study by Eran Elhaik and is
>> > > > accompanied by his personal attacks on more mainstream scientists who have
>> > > > eviscerated his work. In the face of overwhelming evidence from dozens of
>> > > > studies over twenty years from geneticists and historians around the world,
>> > > > Elhaik is aggressively stumping on behalf of his belief..."
>>
>> > > > Missed these, you old cut-n-paste champion?
>>
>> > You lost the last round on this subject.
>>
>> I did? How many cups of tequila did you have to swill before you came
>> up with that?
>
>There was a time when Kevin Brook was Ratner's primary source:
he tries to foist something false onto the group. I believe Brook is
an expret on Khazars, and you would never have heard of him if not for
me. Here's what he has to say about Ashkenazim and their relaitionship
with ancient Khazars:
The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European
Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrakhim (Middle
Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim
(Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world
is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J
and E.
Ashkenazim also descend, in a smaller way, from European peoples from
the northern Mediterranean region and even less from Slavs and
Khazars. The non-Israelite Y-DNA haplogroups include Q1b1a (typically
Central Asian) and R1a1 (typically Eastern European but the most
common Ashkenazic variant comes from somewhere in Asia, probably
Central Asia).
Dutch Jews from the Netherlands also descend from northwestern
Europeans.
Sephardim also descend, in a smaller way, from various non-Israelite
peoples.
Georgian Jews (Gruzinim) are a mix of Georgians and Israelites.
Yemenite Jews (Temanim) are a mix of Yemenite Arabs and Israelites.
Moroccan Jews, Algerian Jews, and Tunisian Jews are mainly Israelites.
Libyan Jews are mainly Israelites who may have mixed somewhat with
Berbers.
Ethiopian Jews are almost exclusively Ethiopian, with little or no
Israelite ancestry.
Bene Israel Jews and Cochin Jews of India have much Indian ancestry in
their mtDNA.
Palestinian Arabs are probably partly Israelite.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html
Since HHW seems to also believe that Brook is a reliable source, I'd
say, given the above, that HHW seems to have made a complete reversal
re the issue of Elhaik and Khazars as they relate to ashkenazim, and
since he was the only proponent of the silly idea that Ashkenazim
descend primarily from khazars in this group, for the purposes of the
group, the matter is closed. Whew, it's about time. The below is
IRRELEVANT, although perhaps somewhat interesting.
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May 28, 2013, 7:00:16 PM5/28/13
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HHW
May 28, 2013, 11:24:32 PM5/28/13
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On May 27, 8:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT), HHW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Palestinian refugees.
> And, haha, the parenthetical reference to ethnic cleansing is
> accurate.
> Yet another lie. The term "ethn;ic cleansing" did not exist in the
> thirties, fool. It was first used in 1988:
>
What's in a name? The practice certainly did.
>
> Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
> ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
>
> ""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
> compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
> it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
> by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
> us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
> it."
>
> Hey H, wanna do an experiment. Let's see if you can go an entire day
> of posting without lying. if you do, you get a lollipop.
> >> >Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
> >> >certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
> >> >you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
> >> >pay me a thousand dollars.
>
> >> >The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
>
> >> By the way, we have compulsory transfer in the US all the time The
> >> term for it is "eminent domain".
the legitimate necessity of the taking?? That's eminent domain in
civilized countries. The Palestinians got none of these rights. And it
was foreign intruder-colonialists doing it, not a legitimate
government. Their lands, homes, businesses, bank accounts, furniture,
vehicles, farm animals, crops in the fields, all taken at gun point.
You haven't the tactical sense God gave a wombat.
HHW
May 28, 2013, 11:26:50 PM5/28/13
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dsharavi
May 29, 2013, 12:38:18 AM5/29/13
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> > Yet another lie. The term "ethn;ic cleansing" did not exist in the
> > thirties, fool. It was first used in 1988:
> What's in a name? The practice certainly did.
Indeed it did, and it was used on Jews.
> > Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
> > ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
> > ""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
> > compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
> > it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
> > by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
> > us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
> > it."
> But he and his people did in fact carry it out.
> > Hey H, wanna do an experiment. Let's see if you can go an entire day
> > of posting without lying. if you do, you get a lollipop.
>
> I don't do penny ante bets.
> Fair market compensation, hearings, due process, a chance to contest
> the legitimate necessity of the taking?? That's eminent domain in
> civilized countries. The Palestinians got none of these rights.
Arab state in Palestine. They chose instead to go to war to to deprive
Jews of a state in a portion of Palestine. They chose .... poorly. And
most of us are bored silly by their continued idiocy ... and yours,
Herr Mierda-Para-Cerebros.
dsharavi
May 29, 2013, 12:39:50 AM5/29/13
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are.
You can go back to guzzling your tequila now.
drahcir
May 29, 2013, 8:01:45 AM5/29/13
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>
>
>> And, haha, the parenthetical reference to ethnic cleansing is
>> accurate.
>
>> Yet another lie. The term "ethn;ic cleansing" did not exist in the
>> thirties, fool. It was first used in 1988:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/14/magazine/on-language-ethnic-cleansi...
>
>What's in a name? The practice certainly did.
Fick off, H. You're apparently so senile you try the same lie
>
>> And, haha, the parenthetical reference to ethnic cleansing is
>> accurate.
>
>> Yet another lie. The term "ethn;ic cleansing" did not exist in the
>> thirties, fool. It was first used in 1988:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/14/magazine/on-language-ethnic-cleansi...
>
>What's in a name? The practice certainly did.
repeatedly, only to get shot down. I've proposed before that you might
actually enjoy being publicly humiliated - maybe that's the only way
at your age that you can have some semblance of getting your withered
rocks off.
>
>>
>> Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
>> ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
>>
>> ""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
>> compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
>> it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
>> by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
>> us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
>> it."
>
>But he and his people did in fact carry it out. He led the process.
No one cares about your boring fairy tales, H. Whatever fantasy you
>>
>> Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
>> ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
>>
>> ""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
>> compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
>> it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
>> by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
>> us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
>> it."
>
>But he and his people did in fact carry it out. He led the process.
have does not justify lying about a quote.
>
>
>>
>> Hey H, wanna do an experiment. Let's see if you can go an entire day
>> of posting without lying. if you do, you get a lollipop.
>
>I don't do penny ante bets.
>
>> >> >Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
>> >> >certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
>> >> >you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
>> >> >pay me a thousand dollars.
>>
>> >> >The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
>>
>> >> By the way, we have compulsory transfer in the US all the time The
>> >> term for it is "eminent domain".
>
>Fair market compensation, hearings, due process, a chance to contest
>the legitimate necessity of the taking?? That's eminent domain in
>civilized countries. The Palestinians got none of these rights.
As I have said on numerous occasions, I am completely for all refugees
>
>>
>> Hey H, wanna do an experiment. Let's see if you can go an entire day
>> of posting without lying. if you do, you get a lollipop.
>
>I don't do penny ante bets.
>
>> >> >Sure, so long as the procedure is reliable: You can order two
>> >> >certified copies from the Zionist Archives, one to be sent directly to
>> >> >you and the other directly to me. We publish them here and then you
>> >> >pay me a thousand dollars.
>>
>> >> >The substance of both quotes is the same, Ratner.
>>
>> >> By the way, we have compulsory transfer in the US all the time The
>> >> term for it is "eminent domain".
>
>Fair market compensation, hearings, due process, a chance to contest
>the legitimate necessity of the taking?? That's eminent domain in
>civilized countries. The Palestinians got none of these rights.
created by the 1948 war getting compensation for their loss. But all
means ALL. The compensation for Jewish refugees is estimated at at
least 5 times that of Arab, so let's start the party!
Old man rant below.
Tell it like it is.
May 29, 2013, 3:30:19 PM5/29/13
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Tell it like it is.
May 29, 2013, 3:40:00 PM5/29/13
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Tell it like it is.
May 29, 2013, 4:05:05 PM5/29/13
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Tell it like it is.
May 29, 2013, 4:07:30 PM5/29/13
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dsharavi
May 29, 2013, 4:35:15 PM5/29/13
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On May 29, 5:01 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 20:24:32 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 27, 8:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 26 May 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> >> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 26, 8:25 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 26 May 2013 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> >> >> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity. The
> >> >> >Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
> >> >> >"transfer". They still use it.
>
> >> >> That's not the end of it, you lying, deceptive carnival clown.
> >> >> Everyone here knows that you pulled it out of context so that it could
> >> >> seem like it was ben gurion's idea, thus more sinister. You avoid
> >> >> context to further your lying ways, but you are so fucking stupid, you
> >> >> think there's a soul in this group who doesn't get it. Unbelievable.
>
> >> >> >> >What new bullshit site did you get this from?
>
> >> >> >It comes from the Central Zionist Archives for Chrissake.
Liar.
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 20:24:32 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 27, 8:11 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 26 May 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> >> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 26, 8:25 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 26 May 2013 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT), HHW
> >> >> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >For the record I added the parenthetical material for clarity. The
> >> >> >Zionists have always used the softer, non-criminal sounding term
> >> >> >"transfer". They still use it.
>
> >> >> That's not the end of it, you lying, deceptive carnival clown.
> >> >> Everyone here knows that you pulled it out of context so that it could
> >> >> seem like it was ben gurion's idea, thus more sinister. You avoid
> >> >> context to further your lying ways, but you are so fucking stupid, you
> >> >> think there's a soul in this group who doesn't get it. Unbelievable.
>
> >> >> >> >What new bullshit site did you get this from?
>
> >> >> >It comes from the Central Zionist Archives for Chrissake.
of one of his mentors on The Big Lie.
> >> Your "clipping" away of the statement in its context is noticed, you
> >> ball-less freak. I'll simply replace it for you:
> >> ""I saw in the Peel Plan two positive things: the ideas of state and
> >> compulsory transfer. I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in
> >> it anything immoral, but compulsory transfer can only be effected
> >> by England and not by the Jews..Not only is it inconceivable for
> >> us to carry it out, but it is also inconceivable for us to propose
> >> it."
>
> >But he and his people did in fact carry it out. He led the process.
>
> No one cares about your boring fairy tales, H. Whatever fantasy you
> have does not justify lying about a quote.
> As I have said on numerous occasions, I am completely for all refugees
> created by the 1948 war getting compensation for their loss. But all
> means ALL. The compensation for Jewish refugees is estimated at at
> least 5 times that of Arab, so let's start the party!
> Old man rant below.
drahcir
May 29, 2013, 4:49:31 PM5/29/13
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have a source for that?
wrote:
Tell it like it is.
May 29, 2013, 8:19:54 PM5/29/13
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puts unholy rabbinical rationalizations on par with Abraham, Moses,
and Christ.
When a Jew calling themselves a nation violate the law of Moses to
make war, you are dealing with ethnocentrics. Ethnocentrics in the
middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
dsharavi
May 30, 2013, 5:17:19 AM5/30/13
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On May 29, 1:49 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
Sure do, and I'll email it to you.
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi <dshr...@gmail.com>
dsharavi
May 30, 2013, 5:17:53 AM5/30/13
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On May 29, 5:19 pm, "Tell it like it is."
"Christ", if you refer to Jesus bar Joseph, is dead. For a long time.
Truth and honesty
May 30, 2013, 7:29:56 AM5/30/13
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 17:19:54 -0700 (PDT),
>>> Old man rant below.
>
> Christ is divine. Zionism is political insanity. Like the Talmud. It
> puts unholy rabbinical rationalizations on par with Abraham, Moses,
> and Christ.
> When a Jew calling themselves a nation violate the law of Moses to
> make war, you are dealing with ethnocentrics. Ethnocentrics in the
> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
Nothing here makes any sense. Like you said this guy is a raving lunatic.
--
Honesty. Decency. Integrity
www.youtube.com/watch?v=33An6HotyuI
Nov 20, 2012
Hamas execution of 6 men, dragged in the streets of Gaza
>>> Old man rant below.
>
> Christ is divine. Zionism is political insanity. Like the Talmud. It
> puts unholy rabbinical rationalizations on par with Abraham, Moses,
> and Christ.
> When a Jew calling themselves a nation violate the law of Moses to
> make war, you are dealing with ethnocentrics. Ethnocentrics in the
> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
--
Honesty. Decency. Integrity
www.youtube.com/watch?v=33An6HotyuI
Nov 20, 2012
Hamas execution of 6 men, dragged in the streets of Gaza
The Peeler
May 30, 2013, 9:51:31 AM5/30/13
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 21:29:56 +1000, Truth and honesty
<Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 May 2013 17:19:54 -0700 (PDT),
>
>>>> Old man rant below.
>>
>> Christ is divine. Zionism is political insanity. Like the Talmud. It
>> puts unholy rabbinical rationalizations on par with Abraham, Moses,
>> and Christ.
>> When a Jew calling themselves a nation violate the law of Moses to
>> make war, you are dealing with ethnocentrics. Ethnocentrics in the
>> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
>
>Nothing here makes any sense. Like you said this guy is a raving lunatic.
Look, who's talking! LOL1
<Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 May 2013 17:19:54 -0700 (PDT),
>
>>>> Old man rant below.
>>
>> Christ is divine. Zionism is political insanity. Like the Talmud. It
>> puts unholy rabbinical rationalizations on par with Abraham, Moses,
>> and Christ.
>> When a Jew calling themselves a nation violate the law of Moses to
>> make war, you are dealing with ethnocentrics. Ethnocentrics in the
>> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
>
>Nothing here makes any sense. Like you said this guy is a raving lunatic.
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The Peeler
May 30, 2013, 10:25:36 AM5/30/13
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 15:57:37 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:51:31 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>
>Looks like it, The Rectum! LOL
Innit Grik anus! LOL1
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:51:31 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
>>>
>>>Nothing here makes any sense. Like you said this guy is a raving lunatic.
>>
>> Are you talking about the Grik anus?
>
>>>> middle east are a pain in the ass working against world peace.
>>>
>>>Nothing here makes any sense. Like you said this guy is a raving lunatic.
>>
>
>Looks like it, The Rectum! LOL
Innit Grik anus! LOL1
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