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Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 15, 2012, 12:01:25 AM5/15/12
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Kuv mloog mas Dr, Shouav Yang hais tau raug chua kawg lawm, yog ua tau
no Hmoob yuav tau mob siab los sib koom seb Hmoob lub neej puas yuav
peem tsheej mus rau ib txoj zoo kom lwm haiv neeg ho saib taus Hmoob
thiab no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPm2NotRjk
Kuv ntseeg hais tias peb Hmoob txoj kev txawj ntse ces nyaj yuav mus
tsi tshaj Dr. Shoua Yaj cov lus no lawm thiab, yog tias muaj kev ncaj
ncees nyob nrog lub koom haum Haiv.
Qhov txhawj yog muaj ntau lub koom tsi haum heev ua haiv thiab no mas
tsam ho peem tsi tsheej xwb, vim Hmoob ib txwm yeej nyiam tus neeg dag
ntau dua li tus neeg hais tiag.
YTK
no Hmoob yuav tau mob siab los sib koom seb Hmoob lub neej puas yuav
peem tsheej mus rau ib txoj zoo kom lwm haiv neeg ho saib taus Hmoob
thiab no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPm2NotRjk
Kuv ntseeg hais tias peb Hmoob txoj kev txawj ntse ces nyaj yuav mus
tsi tshaj Dr. Shoua Yaj cov lus no lawm thiab, yog tias muaj kev ncaj
ncees nyob nrog lub koom haum Haiv.
Qhov txhawj yog muaj ntau lub koom tsi haum heev ua haiv thiab no mas
tsam ho peem tsi tsheej xwb, vim Hmoob ib txwm yeej nyiam tus neeg dag
ntau dua li tus neeg hais tiag.
YTK
Moghlub
May 15, 2012, 12:53:20 AM5/15/12
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Vow!.... zag nua Dr. Shoua has raug tej yaam koj xaav nov lawm laiv, puas yog? hahahahaha....
Txhua zag mas kuv tsi noog los sis noog mivx ces kuv tso tseg lawm. Zag nuav kuv kuj ua ib sab noog Dr. Suav cov lug taag nrho. Kuv saib mas nwg kuj has tau ib co lug phim rua cov laug noog tawm sis sov puas yuav cob phum os?
M
Txhua zag mas kuv tsi noog los sis noog mivx ces kuv tso tseg lawm. Zag nuav kuv kuj ua ib sab noog Dr. Suav cov lug taag nrho. Kuv saib mas nwg kuj has tau ib co lug phim rua cov laug noog tawm sis sov puas yuav cob phum os?
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 2:04:36 AM5/15/12
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TABSIS yog lawv mus txog tim ub thaib nug tias. peb lees txhaum lawm. nej hmoob yuav kom peb thaib ua cas nej thiaj yuav tias ncaj ncees lawm nej yuav kiag li ntawd thiab nej rov mus tsev txhoj tuaj qw qw lawm?
thaum thaib nug li no hmoob yuav teb li cas? nco ntsoov yog hmoob muaj txhiab lub ntxa uas thaib khawb lawm. hmoob yuav kom ib lub ntxa yuac ib hom solution mas tsis muaj neeg nrog nej hmoob tham lawm lawv kom nej mus tsev saisai tsam lawv kom tub ceev xwm muab nej ntxeev t is qaib pov tom ncuaj los yog tom tshav dav hlau mam kom nej nyias them nyias pib dav hlau rov los tsev.
peb puas tau muaj ib qhov solution uas yog thaib lees txaum tias yuav kho kom ncaj ncees thiab kom hmoob zoo siab no. hmoob yuav kom thaib ua li cas?
1. ib co yuav kom thaib mus muab cov txha txhua txhua lub ntxa thaib tau khawb lawm rov los faus kom xwm yeem nkaus li qub.
2. ib co yuav kom tau nyiaj los rau cov xeeb ntxwv tau ua neeb mus kho sab yeeb ntuj.
3. ib co yuav kom thim thiab xa hmoob co txha rov rau tsev hmoob tus tswv cuab nyob tom qab mam coj cov txha mus faum raws hmoob nyiam. kom thaib yuav tsum them nqe xa txha thiab nqe mus yuav av tshiab tau faus cov txha.
hmoob cov requests mas tsis yog tas 3 nqe saum toj xwb xyov tseem yuav yog pua npaug li kuv teev los ntawd. nej sim xav seb 8ntau mas thaib 8ntxub hmoob tsis xav nrog hais. yog yuav mus nrog thaib hais kuv xav kom hmoob koom yuav tsawg mentsis. txhob nqa pua pua hom requst solution mus nrog thaib hais tsam peb pom hneev khau zom zaws ntawm cov mus tej cev xwb os. tsam cov ciaj mus hais rau cov tuag. tabsis tseem yog coj siav ciaj mus pauv siav tuag tim thaib xwb os.
yug los yog neeg mas yam twg los teeb meem nkaus xwb ntag ov. txhob xav tias yog hmoob thiaj teeb meem. yog hmoob los teeb meem. yog thaib, blog, suav, nyablaj, meskas, haiv twg los teeb meem tas.
xav t ias teeb meem tas npaum li ntawv txhob yug los ua yam muaj sia li neeg thiab tsiaj lawm. yug los yog POB ZEB xwb los teeb meem ib yam nkaus.
xav tias yog teeb meem ntau npaum li ntawd ces tsum tsum txhob rov los yug lawm. yuam kev loj os lub tswv8 no. tsis rov los yug mas haj yam teebmeem loj. ces maj sib tw rov los yug xwb ntag. zoo li thaum txiv neej cov kab coob coob li millions tus sib tw khiav mus txeem poj niam lub qe menyuam. tsuas muaj ib tug thiaj mus tau rau sab hauv xwb. lub qe yeej auto loj tuab tuab tuaj kom tsis muaj tus txim mus tau ntxiv lawm. teebmeem yog tsis khiav kom cauj mentsis poob qab ces tsis dhau 24 teev ces dej nquab tas kawm tuag dua ib lwm.
nej xav tias kuv piav kev vwm. yog kuv vwm tiag mas nej xav SCIENCE puas tau lees tias energy can not be destroy it can only be transform into a different form of energy. txoj sia yog ib hom energy hauv neeg lub cev. tsis muaj energy ces cev tuag. since energy can not be destroy. lub energy/ txoj sia tsuas yog pauv mus ua lwm hom energy lawm xwb. txhob xav t ias ua neej laus tuag ces tas nej dim kiag lawm. lub cev tuag los vim energy transform lawm xwb. yuav ntsib teeb meem tom ntej tsis tas tsis kawg.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 2:11:28 AM5/15/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
energy cannot be destroy nor create
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 4:46:04 AM5/15/12
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 15, 2012, 8:14:11 AM5/15/12
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Pom leej twg es lawv twb muab yus tsim txom lawm los tseem mus kom
lawv nrog kho, peb tsi tau kom thaib los nrog txiav rooj plaub khawb
ntxa, rooj plaub khawb ntxa no mas peb yuav coj thaib mus rau United
Nation nrog txiav txim raws li txoj cai ua neeg nyob hauv ntiaj teb
xwb.
Qhov loj hauv neeg txoj kev muaj txoj cai ua neeg, ib haiv neeg tsawg
nyob rau hauv ib lub teb chaws twg los xij, yog lub teb chaws ntawd
tau yuam txoj cai kev ua neeg tau txhub muj tsim txom li Thaib ua rau
Hmoob zaum no uas Thaib khawb Hmoob toj ntxas, thaum zoo li no lawm
yog thaib tsi xav yuav haiv neeg tsawg uas zoo li Hmoob nrog lawv
lawm, yog li no lawm ces Hmoob yuav tau nyob Hmoob kheej ua tswv av
ntawm Hmoob, Hmoob tej toj txha tau muab faus txij li cas rau hauv
daim av thaib lawm ces Hmoob yuav tsum yuav txij li ntawd los ua Hmoob
tug, ua ib lub teb chaws rau Hmoob nyob Hmoob kheej lawm, kom xwv
Hmoob tus neeg ciaj los kom muaj chaw nyob, tus tuag los kom muaj chaw
faus.
Kuv tsi tau pom ib haiv neeg twg es yuav coj zoo li Hmoob coj, tsuas
yog Hmoob thiaj coj li ntawd, luag twb muab yus cov Hmoob tsim txom
caij tsuj tua yam tsi txuag txiaj lawm los tseem hais tias txhob muab
tej kev luag ua phem rau Hmoob ntawd los hais tsam txhaum luag, tus
neeg txhaum twb yog tus tsim txom yus tus Hmoob lawm ntag ne es yus
mus hais no yus Hmoob tseem txhaum tau li cas rau lawv. Hmoob ces
tsuas pom qhov uas raug luag lwm haiv siv Hmoob ua nees caij, ua twm
laij liag mas Hmoob maj nrus ceg dev kawg nkaus, thaum luag tau teeb
meem lawm luag siv Hmoob mus pab luag tiv thaiv, thaum muaj kev nyab
xeeb txias lawm luag muab Hmoob cuam pov tseg zoo li tej khoom tshwj
tsi zoo siv, tej li no los Hmoob yeej tsi txawj tu siab, tsi ras xeev
li.
Hmoob tseem yuav tos txog thaum twg li muaj txoj cai rau Hmoob hais
yuav av rau Hmoob nyob Hmoob kheej tau ntawd thiab no los, Hmoob txoj
cai rhawv haiv ua kom tsheej ib haiv neeg tiag tiag ces yog zoo li
niaj Hnub no Thaib Khawb Hmoob Ntxa, Nplog Liab tua Hmoob tau 36 xyoo
ntau los no, tej li hais los no yog txoj cai yuav hais kom Hmoob mus
nyob tau Hmoob kheej.
Tsi txhob ua li yav tag lawm es Mee Moua lawv twb yog cov xub pib lub
ncauj kev mus hais lawm los Siab Lauj lawv tseem nqu ceg dev mus hais
thiab, sib txeeb ua plhu rau thaib ua plhu rau Hmoob kom Hmoob qhuas
tias lawv ob pab ntawd mas ntse kawg no uas tus neeg qhuas ces yog
neeg npub thiaj qhuas lawv ob pab ntawd xwb, tus neeg noj mov hlob mas
yeej tsi qhuas ib zaug. Niag neeg ruam thiaj sib txeeb mus ua plhu li
ntawd.
Moghlub,
> Vow!.... zag nua Dr. Shoua has raug tej yaam koj xaav nov lawm laiv, puas yog? hahahahaha....
qhov luj yog txuj cai kev ua neeg peb yuav tau paub txug tas ib tus
tuab neeg muaj txuj kev muaj txuj cai kev ua neeg ib yaam le luas lwm
haiv neeg hab, yog thaum luas muab yug cov Hmoob caij tsuj lawm yuav
tau has kom muaj chaws txawb chaw rau tso kom Hmoob muaj chaw nyob ib
yam li lawv thiab, lawv los yog neeg, peb Hmoob los yog neeg tib yam.
> Txhua zag mas kuv tsi noog los sis noog mivx ces kuv tso tseg lawm. Zag nuav kuv kuj ua ib sab noog Dr. Suav cov lug taag nrho.
yuav tsi paub lub ntsab qhov tseeb ntawm tug tuab neeg tuaj has cov
lug rau suav dlawg ntawd, Moob le tes txawm yog ua le koj has ntaag
tag, tsuas noog miv miv ntawm lub hauv paug xwb tes tub paub taag le
lawm tes Moob ua dlaab tsi los txhaj ua tsi pum qaab chua txuj kev
yuav ua moog le, luas has miv xwb los yug paub ntau lawm nuas es ua
yam twg los tsi tav vim yug paub dhlau qhov luas thaam lawm. Thaum
luas thaam yus tsi mloog luas cov lug le, thaum luag txib yug moog ua
dlej num tes yug tsi paub lub ntsab txuj kev kws luas kom yug ua tes
yus moog ua tom ntej tom qaab ua dlog ua dlig le tej miv nyuas tsi
paub qaab hau.
Qhov kws mloog puab has miv es paub ntau tes tsuas yog ua tau tuab
qhov kws moog yos hluas nkauj luas tej ntxhais mos mos es maub dlub
ntawd mas awb has miv nov miv xwb tes yeej paub ntau lawm los mas tug
kwv aw!!!, sis ntsib dlua os.
YTK
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 12:33:28 PM5/15/12
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tham muaj ceem kawg li thiab ntxim yuav tau pab nyiaj npaum li yus muaj pub 6 lub koom haum uas yuav mus hais zaum no lawm ntag. TABSIS txhob muag lub npe mus coj thaib mus rau UN txiav txim tabsis qhov tiag sawv daws twb ntsib tsis tau UN thiab UN tsis tau lees yuav nrog hmoob nce rooj 4 ntug phua kiag ib lub txim 6 thaib. tsam mus txog ces thaib muab yus lem 6 ub 6 no yus txaus txaus yees ces dhia caws caws rov los tsev thiav ev hniav khau tasluaj pawg lug.
yog yuav nce rooj plaub tim UN tsis lam xuas ncauj piav tij tauj tij tauj xwb ces tau. ntaub ntawd thiab pov thawj yuav tau mus lawm txaus tsheb thauj. yog UN twb kam thiab qhib schedule lawm mam mus. ntaub ntawv thiab pov thawj tsis tau mus hmoob cia li yuav nkag nkag mus khob khob qhov rooj UN yeej tsis kk kiag li os. hmoob mag kooshaum dag txaus txaus lawm thov txhob dag hmoob lawm os.
mus puas ntsib tau UN thiab UN puas nrog hmoob hais no ma?
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 1:04:54 PM5/15/12
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tsam mus ntsib UN na tseem yog gangster tuaj ntxias hmoob yuav nyiaj xwb mus na ntsib tsis tau tus tseem UN thiab lawv tsis nrog yus hais 4 li.
Moghlub
May 15, 2012, 1:47:29 PM5/15/12
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Nyob zoo yawm Tshaj,
Please stop putting words in others' mouth like you just did to me. I have not revealed my reasons as to why I did not listen, watch or read what you posted in the past and yet you jumped in to make all kinds of assumptions for me. You could have kindly asked me why I said what I said. Txawm le ntawd los xij, tej koj has tsi mob tsi khaus kuv dlaab tsi. Making such simple assumptions for others only reveal your own narrow views.
Has txug qhov teebmeem Thaib/Suav khawb Moob ntxaa nyob qhov tsua ntawd kuv ntseeg has tas peb feem coob yeej nyob ib lub nkoj xwb tawm sis tu sab tas Hmoob tsi muaj kev koomteg.
Ua tsaug,
M
Please stop putting words in others' mouth like you just did to me. I have not revealed my reasons as to why I did not listen, watch or read what you posted in the past and yet you jumped in to make all kinds of assumptions for me. You could have kindly asked me why I said what I said. Txawm le ntawd los xij, tej koj has tsi mob tsi khaus kuv dlaab tsi. Making such simple assumptions for others only reveal your own narrow views.
Has txug qhov teebmeem Thaib/Suav khawb Moob ntxaa nyob qhov tsua ntawd kuv ntseeg has tas peb feem coob yeej nyob ib lub nkoj xwb tawm sis tu sab tas Hmoob tsi muaj kev koomteg.
Ua tsaug,
M
Born2beMhong
May 15, 2012, 2:33:12 PM5/15/12
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LOL@tijlaug Yajtshajkoob,
kuv nco tau lawm hais tias, koj twb hais tias XengXiong twb hais tej
lus no rau UN ua ntej lawm. yog vim li cas, lub koomhaum no hos hais
tau txawv ua luaj li no lawm thiab. mloog tej no, ntxim tusiab heev
laid, zoo li hmoob ua haujlwm tsi nrog lub homphiaj li nawb.
mloog Diane cov lus thiab seb--lub no puas yog los ua qhov project no
specify xwb--los yog lub koomhaum no tsim tsa los thav hmoob from here
onto the future...lub sijhawm no, peb hmoob yuav poob nyiaj ntau npaum
li cas tiag?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1ulGI2IkM&feature=relmfu
kuv nco tau lawm hais tias, koj twb hais tias XengXiong twb hais tej
lus no rau UN ua ntej lawm. yog vim li cas, lub koomhaum no hos hais
tau txawv ua luaj li no lawm thiab. mloog tej no, ntxim tusiab heev
laid, zoo li hmoob ua haujlwm tsi nrog lub homphiaj li nawb.
mloog Diane cov lus thiab seb--lub no puas yog los ua qhov project no
specify xwb--los yog lub koomhaum no tsim tsa los thav hmoob from here
onto the future...lub sijhawm no, peb hmoob yuav poob nyiaj ntau npaum
li cas tiag?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1ulGI2IkM&feature=relmfu
Txawj Xav
May 15, 2012, 3:08:31 PM5/15/12
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COV PHOOJ YWG.
Aib Dr. Soua Yang no ces zoo le Hmoob hais:
"Ncauj Puam Sub Nkawv, Tes Taw Tuag Zwg Xwb".
Tos kuv hais li mas txij thaum nws kawm tau nws daim PH.D.
los no nws ua tau dab tsi rau Hmoob. Kuv tsuas pom
nws nyob "YOUTUBE" tas li, tab sis "HAS NO RESULT".
Kuv tus Txawj Xav no mas "ONLY BELIEVE PEOPLE WITH RESULT -- NOT JUST
TALK... TALK".
Txawj Xav.
Aib Dr. Soua Yang no ces zoo le Hmoob hais:
"Ncauj Puam Sub Nkawv, Tes Taw Tuag Zwg Xwb".
Tos kuv hais li mas txij thaum nws kawm tau nws daim PH.D.
los no nws ua tau dab tsi rau Hmoob. Kuv tsuas pom
nws nyob "YOUTUBE" tas li, tab sis "HAS NO RESULT".
Kuv tus Txawj Xav no mas "ONLY BELIEVE PEOPLE WITH RESULT -- NOT JUST
TALK... TALK".
Txawj Xav.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 3:52:27 PM5/15/12
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 15, 2012, 5:39:15 PM5/15/12
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 15, 2012, 6:22:14 PM5/15/12
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Ua tsaug ntau ntau uas koj muab lub koom haum no coj tuaj tso rau sawv
daws tau saib, hais rau koj tias kuv tsi tau hnov txog lub koom haum
no hlo li, zaum no yog thawj zaug kuv hnov thiab pom, qhov zoo ces yog
lub koom haum no kuj yog ib qhov kev ras txog tias nws thiab lub koom
haum tseem muaj qhov hlub txog Hmoob, xav pab Hmoob, tab sis tsi paub
lub hom phiaj kev ua yog yuav ua li cas xwb. Lub hom phiaj kev Hmoob
yuav sib pab lub zog ua mus tom ntej zaum no mas yog tas nrho Hmoob
thoob ntiaj teb lo sib sau ua ib ke koom hais ib lo lus rau txua fab
xws li kevuas luag tua Hmoob tsim txom Hmoob, khawb Hmoob toj ntxas
li niaj hnub nim no.
Qhov tsi zoo yog peb Hmoob tseem muaj tus cujpwm hais tias xav ua kom
tau ntsej muag ntawm yus tus kheej no ntau dua qhov sawv daws los ua
feem koom ua ib lub zog loj kom UN zoo pab.
> kuv nco tau lawm hais tias, koj twb hais tias XengXiong twb hais tej
> lus no rau UN ua ntej lawm.
cov toj ntxas uas thaib khawb thiab txoj kev uas nplog liab tau tua
tsim txom Hmoob los tau 36 xyoo no sau ua ib tsab cai coj mus hais qog
qhia rau UN tas lawm, rooj plaub no mas tsi tau yog yuav muab hais
tsawg tsuag kom tas li qee pab Hmoob uas tau mus nrog thaib sib hais
ntawd, txoj cai peb yuav hais thaib zaum no yog peb yuav muab ua lub
hauv paus los hais txog dej av rau Hmoob nyob tib yam.
Daim av luaj puas no tsi yog thaib tsim tau rau thaib nyob xwb, daim
av no yog ntuj tsim rau ntiaj teb tib neeg txhua nywj keeb haiv neeg
nyob, peb Hmoob yog ib nywj keeb haiv neeg uas nyob rau lub ntiaj teb
ib yam li luag lwm haiv thiab, mas yog tias thaum peb Hmoob ua dab tsi
los muaj kev txhaum tas txhua txhia yam li niaj hnub no luag ua rau
Hmoob lawm ntag ces qhov no yog qhov qhia tau rau Hmoob hais tias luag
yuav ua rau kom Hmoob txawj los sib koom siab ua ib ke hais kom Hmoob
muaj ib daim av rau Hmoob nyob kheej mas thiaj tas.
Qhov kuv hais tias Dr. Shoua Yang hais yog lawm ntawd mas yog kuv
tsuas qhuas hais tias Dr. Shoua pom txog lub ntsiab qhov tseeb uas
yuav muab coj los hais xwb, tab sis tsi tau yog hais tias Dr. Shouav
lawv yuav muab ua dua ib lub ncauj lus coj mus qog qhia rau UN ntawm
lawv klheej tau, ua ntej lawv yuav ua tau mas Dr. Shoua lawv yuav tau
mus nug txog cov koom haum ntau lub uas lawv twb muab hais ua ntej
lawm seb lawv hais mus txog twg lawm, thiab mus khuam rau qhov twg
lawm, thaum paub qhov tseeb tias cov ncauj lus mus khuam rau ntu twg
lawm ces Dr. Shoua Yang lawv li muaj cai muab ntau lub koom haum uas
mus hais tib rooj plaub zuaj los ua ib ke, ua ib pab kom muaj zog, los
yog Dr. Shoua lawv pab mus koom rau lwm lub koom haum uas twb ua tau
mus rau hauv UN tas lawm los yeej zoo, tsi txhob ua ntau pab.
Hais li tus poj niam Hmoob Tsab hais ces twb yog tsi paub es thiaj coj
mus rau Thaib hais cov plaub khawb Hmoob ntxa, tej nom tswv nws hais
tias nws nim ua tau phooj ywg ntawd tsi ruaj khov ib zaug vim thaib
twb yog tus tso cai rau pab neeg suav ntawd khawb ntxa lawm es yuav ua
cas thaib thiaj yuav pab yus tu tau plaub, tsi tau hlo li.
Nyob li ntawm tus Mrs Chang cov lus nws kuj yuav kom Hmoob los sib pab
ua ke no tab sis ua cas nws ho tsi paub qhov uas nws tus kheej yuav
tsum mus koom lwm lub uas twb muab tej ncauj lus ntawd coj mus hais
rau UN tag lawm koom nrog lawv ua ib ke, es nws ho hais nws li ntawd.
>................................yog vim li cas, lub koomhaum no hos hais
> tau txawv ua luaj li no lawm thiab. mloog tej no, ntxim tusiab heev
> laid, zoo li hmoob ua haujlwm tsi nrog lub homphiaj li nawb.
Tseeb li koj cov lus kawg nkaus lawm, koj yeej yog thoob tsib txog lub
> laid, zoo li hmoob ua haujlwm tsi nrog lub homphiaj li nawb.
zog loj uas yuav ua tau ntawm Hmoob nyob qhov twg lawm ntag, koj cov
lus txhais tau tias yuav tau koom ua ib sob ib roog lus hais tib lub
hom phiaj thiaj muaj yeej thiab luag neeg ntiaj teb thiaj yuav pab
Hmoob taug tu Hmoob rooj plaub.
Hmoob zoo li muaj qee yim neeg muaj kev noj kev haus es los hais lus
rau hauv rooj noj ntag, txiv hais tas los niam yuav hais, niam hais
tas los tub yuav hais, tub hais tas los cov kwv yuav los hais mas hais
hais tag ib tsev neeg, leej twg hais los hais tib cov qub lus, yog coj
li no ces tsi muaj good leader.
Tom ntej yav pem suav neeg ntiaj teb yuav pom Hmoob muab roj ntshav
puas rau 4 lub teb chaws xws li Suav, Nyablaj, Nplog, thiab Thaib.
Qhov xau no ces kuv ntseeg tau tias Hmoob yuav tau los sib koom ua ke
hais tib roog lus mas thiaj muaj chaw mus, luag neeg UN thiaj paub
tias Hmoob haum xeeb lawm.
Moghlub,
Kuv txawm has tau sab koj zog lawm los xob xaav le caag, koj ua sab
luj luj txhaj tau nttuj ntoo, koj yeej paub kuv zoo lawm.
YTK
phwvnyawm
May 15, 2012, 8:00:10 PM5/15/12
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Tij laug Yaj Tshaj Koob..aw
> Qhov xau no ces kuv ntseeg tau tias Hmoob yuav tau los sib koom ua ke
> hais tib roog lus mas thiaj muaj chaw mus, luag neeg UN thiaj paub
> tias Hmoob haum xeeb lawm.
Hmoob ces zoo nkaus li nej cov ua kas moos ntag.......nyias ua nyias
muaj txog 10 tawm pab.........yus tus yeeb ncuab tsis tas tua.....
ntxias nws rov sib ntxuav nws xwb ces hauj lwm tiav. Thaib thiab cov
Suav khawb ntxa ntawd yeej paub hmoob lub hlwb zoo-oo lawm hmoob ces
heev thawj-j npaj xwb,thaum pib mas leej twg los twb mob-b siab 2
nphlaw xwb ces nyob nquas......hais li tus muam hmoob Tsab ntawd hais
ces Thaib mas ntshai yuav tau zoo muag hmoob cov pob txha rov rau
hmoob kawg li....... 200 tawm tus cov pob txha Thaib tseem tuav ntawd
lawv....thaib yuav kom hmoob them 200 txhiab,yog li ib tug neeg twg 1
txhiab.
Koj txhob tos hnub hmoob yuav koom siab koom hais ib los
lus........tuag 10 tiam hmoob twb tsis sib koom nawb.......hmoob yog
ib haiv neeg siab phem tshaj plaws......ua pes tsawg tiam los thiaj
tsis muaj Av nrog luag nyob.......thiab lub ntuj yeej paub tias muab
Av rau hmoob nyob los hmoob yeej yuav kav tsis tau.....yog ntuj muab
ib daim Av rau hmoob ntshai hmoob yuav sib tua hmoob tuag tag ces cia
txhob muab......cia kom lwm haiv neeg zoo li Thaib tab meeg khawb
hmoob tej ntxa yam tsis ntshai hmoob kiag.....hmoob ces twb los ntshav
muag xyov pes tsawg 100 xyoo lawm los yeej tsis txawj sib hlub
li.......niaj hnub nim no tseem coj thaj qub xwb ces kawg tsis muaj
hnub zoo.......koj puas pom cov koos tsis haum......txij 1975
los ......tsis muaj ib lub es ua yuav koom haum....ua-ua mus ces koom
tsis haum lawm xwb ned.Pab peb hmoob tu siab kawg nkaus nawb.Kuv ces
ua ib siab ua Meskas qhev......es thaum laus tshuav tau mus nyob tom
tsev laus....cov Meskas tu yus ntau yus rig puav,cem yus los puav los
cia lawv ntau lawv cem lawv tshuav tau lub chaw pw xwb.
Sib ntsib dua
> Qhov xau no ces kuv ntseeg tau tias Hmoob yuav tau los sib koom ua ke
> hais tib roog lus mas thiaj muaj chaw mus, luag neeg UN thiaj paub
> tias Hmoob haum xeeb lawm.
muaj txog 10 tawm pab.........yus tus yeeb ncuab tsis tas tua.....
ntxias nws rov sib ntxuav nws xwb ces hauj lwm tiav. Thaib thiab cov
Suav khawb ntxa ntawd yeej paub hmoob lub hlwb zoo-oo lawm hmoob ces
heev thawj-j npaj xwb,thaum pib mas leej twg los twb mob-b siab 2
nphlaw xwb ces nyob nquas......hais li tus muam hmoob Tsab ntawd hais
ces Thaib mas ntshai yuav tau zoo muag hmoob cov pob txha rov rau
hmoob kawg li....... 200 tawm tus cov pob txha Thaib tseem tuav ntawd
lawv....thaib yuav kom hmoob them 200 txhiab,yog li ib tug neeg twg 1
txhiab.
Koj txhob tos hnub hmoob yuav koom siab koom hais ib los
lus........tuag 10 tiam hmoob twb tsis sib koom nawb.......hmoob yog
ib haiv neeg siab phem tshaj plaws......ua pes tsawg tiam los thiaj
tsis muaj Av nrog luag nyob.......thiab lub ntuj yeej paub tias muab
Av rau hmoob nyob los hmoob yeej yuav kav tsis tau.....yog ntuj muab
ib daim Av rau hmoob ntshai hmoob yuav sib tua hmoob tuag tag ces cia
txhob muab......cia kom lwm haiv neeg zoo li Thaib tab meeg khawb
hmoob tej ntxa yam tsis ntshai hmoob kiag.....hmoob ces twb los ntshav
muag xyov pes tsawg 100 xyoo lawm los yeej tsis txawj sib hlub
li.......niaj hnub nim no tseem coj thaj qub xwb ces kawg tsis muaj
hnub zoo.......koj puas pom cov koos tsis haum......txij 1975
los ......tsis muaj ib lub es ua yuav koom haum....ua-ua mus ces koom
tsis haum lawm xwb ned.Pab peb hmoob tu siab kawg nkaus nawb.Kuv ces
ua ib siab ua Meskas qhev......es thaum laus tshuav tau mus nyob tom
tsev laus....cov Meskas tu yus ntau yus rig puav,cem yus los puav los
cia lawv ntau lawv cem lawv tshuav tau lub chaw pw xwb.
Sib ntsib dua
hmongf...@gmail.com
May 15, 2012, 8:08:17 PM5/15/12
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On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:08:31 PM UTC-5, Txawj Xav wrote:
> Kuv tus Txawj Xav no mas "ONLY BELIEVE PEOPLE WITH RESULT -- NOT JUST
> TALK... TALK".
>
> Txawj Xav.
thim xav dua es ho txawj xav tiag tiag. hais siab koj zog lawm...bye.
neegtojsiab
May 16, 2012, 7:11:56 AM5/16/12
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Cov phooj ywg, cov lus Dr. Suav hais no kuv mloog tsis tau tas, tawm
sis nws tsis yog nyuam qhuav tshwm. Yeej tshwm nyob ua ntu zus ntuj
qub qab tuaj lawm. Cov lus yuav los ua haiv thiab ua ib lub Kooshaum
ces yog thiab nraug chua kawg. Li cas los xij, tej zaum suav daws lub
hom phiaj nyaj yuav tsis txawv ntau, ua ntej, peb Hmoob tsawg heev,
xav pom txoj kev moj them ntawm cov Kooshaum tso mam mus hais rooj
plaub khawb Hmoob ntxa ntawd. Rooj plaub no sis yog rooj plaub haiv
nawb; nws tsis yog plaub ntawm tog tsev. Yog tsis muaj txoj kev moj
them, rooj plaub no tej zaum yuav sawv los kuj tsis paub, tawm sis
yuav muaj kev cov nyom loj . Qhov kev cov nyom ntawm vim txoj kev ib
tug los nyom ib tug; thaum zoo li no lawm ces yuav ua rau neeg ntiaj
teb tsis pab peb.
sis nws tsis yog nyuam qhuav tshwm. Yeej tshwm nyob ua ntu zus ntuj
qub qab tuaj lawm. Cov lus yuav los ua haiv thiab ua ib lub Kooshaum
ces yog thiab nraug chua kawg. Li cas los xij, tej zaum suav daws lub
hom phiaj nyaj yuav tsis txawv ntau, ua ntej, peb Hmoob tsawg heev,
xav pom txoj kev moj them ntawm cov Kooshaum tso mam mus hais rooj
plaub khawb Hmoob ntxa ntawd. Rooj plaub no sis yog rooj plaub haiv
nawb; nws tsis yog plaub ntawm tog tsev. Yog tsis muaj txoj kev moj
them, rooj plaub no tej zaum yuav sawv los kuj tsis paub, tawm sis
yuav muaj kev cov nyom loj . Qhov kev cov nyom ntawm vim txoj kev ib
tug los nyom ib tug; thaum zoo li no lawm ces yuav ua rau neeg ntiaj
teb tsis pab peb.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 16, 2012, 7:32:58 AM5/16/12
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Koj tej lus koj hais yog lawm,lub ncauj tsi hais los lub siab xav
nraim tias yog vim li cas Hmoob yuav muaj cov ntshav ua twm zeej noj
kheej li niaj hnub no Hmoob ua li koj cov lus hauv qab no tias...
> Hmoob ces zoo nkaus li nej cov ua kas moos ntag.......nyias ua nyias
> muaj txog 10 tawm pab.......
rau 1920 ntawd mas xam hais Hmoob tseem tsi tau txawj ntawv es txoj
kev kawm kev txawj ntse tsi muaj, kev xa xov mus los-los tsi cuag ncua
es txoj kev sib pab thiaj tu ncab tu ncua li yav tag lawm. Ua cas tam
sim no yog tiam 21st xyoo 2012 lawm, twb muaj lub suab nrov tias Hmoob
muaj "tub ntxhais" txawj ntawv siab coob, Hmoob muaj coob tus paub qab
hau lawm no, los tseem niaj hnub ua zaj qub tas li, koj ua koj taw
ntsees, kuv ua kuv taw ntsees li ntseeb xwb, sawv daws txawm yuav tsi
xav tias tab txawm peb nyias ua nyias los suav daws tsuas koom tib pab
tib neeg los khiav kev sib pab txog tus dej num yuav ua mus tom ntej
xwb nav......cov neeg pom txog txoj kev raug luag txhub muj tsim txom,
kev yuav sib pab ntawd lis teg dej num los kuj tsi coob ua luaj twg
leej neeg, yog tias tseem muab sib cais ces ib leeg coj 10 tawm nyuag
leej mus ua txoj num lawm xwb ces yuav ua cas muaj zog sawv taus.
>..............................hais li tus muam hmoob Tsab ntawd hais
> ces Thaib mas ntshai yuav tau zoo muag hmoob cov pob txha rov rau
> hmoob kawg li....... 200 tawm tus cov pob txha Thaib tseem tuav ntawd
> lawv....thaib yuav kom hmoob them 200 txhiab,yog li ib tug neeg twg 1
> txhiab.
Yog li koj hais tiag, thaib tau zoo ua luam kawg nkaus, yus rov hais
> hmoob kawg li....... 200 tawm tus cov pob txha Thaib tseem tuav ntawd
> lawv....thaib yuav kom hmoob them 200 txhiab,yog li ib tug neeg twg 1
> txhiab.
yus tus kheej ua ntej tiag peb Hmoob ces yeej yog pab niag neeg xeeb
txawm tau cov roj ntshav ruam es tab txawm txawj ntawv siab npaum cas
los tseem ruam li qub. Mloog tus muaj Daine Chang ntawd tham ces tus
tseem fwv Thaib yeej hais tias Hmoob yog neeg tsi muaj av, tus tseem
ciaj los tsi muaj chaw rau Hmoob nyob, tus tuag lawm los tsi muaj chaw
rau Hmoob faus. thaib yuav kom Hmoob tshwm nyiaj yuav Hmoob cov cev
tuag rov qab, tab sis tsi muaj chaw rau Hmoob faus, thaib hais li
ntawd los tseem yuav tshwm nyiaj mus yuav cov pob txha rov qab tej no
ces yog Hmoob cov ntshav tseem ruam tiag tiag li. Thaum zoo li no lawm
peb tsi tau nrog thaib hais txog cov pob txha tuag rov los rau peb tam
sim no, peb yuav tau los hais txog daim av nyob ua ntej tso, muaj daim
av nyob lawm mas thiaj muaj chaw faus, daim av uas peb Hmoob nrog luag
koom nyob peb muaj txoj cai tib yam li lawv, ib tus neeg tau nyob thaj
av twg txij li 15 xyoo rov saum lawm thaj chaw ntawd yog nws li lawm,
tus Hmoob uas los nyob hauv daim av thaib ntawd twb los nyob tau 1-2
puas xyoo lawm thiab, yog li no hnub no peb cov Hmoob nyob txij twg
ces txij ntawd yog Hmoob li av tib yam.
Tus muam Hmoob Tsab hais ntxiv tias thaib yog Huam Xais Miab no, tej
lus no hais tau rau qhov uas yus tais caus lawv lub tswv yim lawm,
txoj cai tsi tau yog tias peb hais hnub no xyoo no tsi tag ces yuav
cia li tag mus, tsi yog li ntawd, peb hais hnub no xyoo no tsi tiav
los peb yuav ua 1-2 puas xyoo ntau tiam neeg los hais rooj plaub no
kom txog hnub Hmoob muaj av nyob, txawm pes tsawg 100 xyoo ntxiv los
Hmoob tseem tshuav ib txoj cai ntawm thaib tsi ploj, Hmoob yuav tau
hais kom muaj av nyob mas thiaj muaj chaw faus tuag, tsi yog tias
thaib muab pob txha rov rau Hmoob ces Hmoob cia li zoo siab, peb yuav
tau paub meej meej tias thaib twb muab tus tuag rho tawm hauv lub chaw
faus tus neeg lawm qhov no txhaum Hmoob kev cai txoj kev ua neeg lawm,
hais li no xwb sawv daws paub ntau hauv lub ntsiab lawm.
>.............................................hmoob ces twb los ntshav
> muag xyov pes tsawg 100 xyoo lawm los yeej tsis txawj sib hlub
> li....
Yog tiag Hmoob kev txom nyem raug luag tsim txom tsi tau zoo ua noj ua
> li....
haus los tau ntau tshaj 5000 xyoo lawm los tseem ua thaj qub tas li-
li koj hais saum, Hmoob tej ntshav muag ces los puv tas tej qab roob
los tsi muaj tus sawv ua nom Hmoob yuav los pab daws tso kom Hmoob
ciaj taus Haiv kom txhob muaj tej xwm txheej li peb tham los no ntxiv
lawm no los tsi muaj tus ua li, tab sib txeeb ntsia ntoov thooj nyiaj
nkaus xwb, muab tej kev sib hlub sib pab nrauj ncua tseg, peb txawm
yuav zoo li tus tsov es ntsia ntsoov thooj nqaij tas li xwb es yuav ua
cas thiaj hloov tau tus xeeb ceem no pov tseg.
Qhov Nplog tua Hmoob tau 36 xyoo ntau thiab thaib khawb Hmoob ntxa,
Suav khawb Hmoob ntxa yog lawv qhia kom Hmoob txawj sib hlub thiab
paub pom txog txoj kev sib koom mus ciaj Haiv neeg muaj av nrog luag
nyob xwb, hnub no lawm tom ntej Hmoob yuav muaj "TSEEM FWV HMOOB KHEEJ
LAWM" Hmoob tsi koom leej twg ntxiv lawm, Hmoob muaj txoj cai loj yuav
ncau mus ua ib Haiv neeg lawm tiag tiag tab sis yog ib feem tseem tsi
tau paub ras txog tias txoj kev ua ib haiv neeg muaj teb chaw no tseem
ceeb npaum cas tiag ntawd yog dab tsi xwb thaum paub lawm Hmoob yuav
caum tes nroos sib pab, tab si yuav tau muaj kev ncaj ncees. Qhov zoo
yog muaj nyablaj, muaj nplog liab, muaj thaib, muaj suav tau tsim txom
Hmoob ua hnub ua hmo, ua txhiab-b xyoo los lawm tej no yog lawv ua
qhia rau Hmoob twb ras xeev los ua Hmoob tus tseem fwv coob zuj zus
tuaj lawm, lawv yuav tsim Hmoob ua kom Hmoob mus nyob Hmoob kheej ua
ib lub "Nation Hmong" xwb, pab npuaj tes ua lawv tsaug ntau ntau.
YTK
kwvtijhmoob
May 16, 2012, 8:28:19 AM5/16/12
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phwvnyawm-- haj..haj..haj... koj tib leeg thiaj pom li kuv pom thiab
thiaj hais tau raws kuv siab xwb. hnub twg koj tuaj txog pem mn no
wb mam noj tawv npua teb ci nraum kuv qab tsag tham nawb..
haj..haj..haj...
thiaj hais tau raws kuv siab xwb. hnub twg koj tuaj txog pem mn no
wb mam noj tawv npua teb ci nraum kuv qab tsag tham nawb..
haj..haj..haj...
Born2beMhong
May 16, 2012, 11:09:37 AM5/16/12
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On May 15, 7:00 pm, phwvnyawm <phwvnya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
tham li koj rau tijlaug YTK thiab laud....LOLz!
tijlaug Phwv,
kuv muab saib los mas, yeej yog tim Ntshav Hmoob ntag--tabsi, zoo li
peb hmoob no nyiam nyiam Volunteer los ua nws txoj haujlwm ces cias li
ua li nws xav lawm xwb. zoo li tsi sibsablaj li, vim li no tej kam no
thiaj li zoo li koj ua tij hais ned--tej no, koj kwv lawv twb forsee
puas thaum tsi tau pib los lawm aws.
ua cas lawv twb tso tib cov Top Advisors mus nrog Thaib sibtham xwb,
es lawv yuav ua tau yuam kev tshuav li no tiag mas...lub sijhawm no,
ces li koj ua tij hais os--luag khawb yus pobtxhas tag lawm los luag
tseem yuav yuav yus Nyiaj mus txiv yus tej neeg tej pobtxhas rov qab
thiab laiv yom. ntshe peb tsheej luas niam no, tsi keej li tej laus
thaum ub lawm tiag laud--yog luag twb nqa yus pobtxhas mus lawm es
tseem yuav kom yus muab nyiaj them mas thiaj li tau yus cov pobtxhas
rov qab...ntuj aws....LOLz!
tos kuv tsi tuaj zog kiag li los, lub sijhawm no--cov Hmoob Thai
tseem yuav tau nyiaj ib cag nrog thiab....LOLz! zoo li tus muam Diane
Chang no hais thiab hnov lus moos cuas mas, lawv tseem yuav muab
$35,000.00 dollars no mus them rau cov hmoob attorney Thaib, mas lawv
thiaj li yuav kam los saib tej nyuag ntaubntawv ua hais txog case ua
khawb hmoob ntxas no thiab no laiv. yog li mas, twb tsi tag Thaib tau
nyiaj dawb dawb xwb, Hmoob Thaib los tseem yuav tau Hmoob Ameska nyiaj
siv tibsi.... cas tham thiab piav txog tej dabneeg no--cas yuav mus
txaus tusiab ua luaj li.
ua li cas kuv me kwvtij Dr Shoua es yuav mus tham lus ntau ua luaj li
thiab, es cov ua mus nrog Thaib tham ua yog Attorney li former
Senator of MN Mee Moua thiab Attorney Siab Lo ua nrog Nais Phoos tus
tub Tsav lawv mus nrog Thaib tham ned, vim li cas cov Attorney no hos
tsi tuaj tham rau peb li Pejxeem mloog thiab lawv qhov Strategy...es
tseem hos cias li lwm tus li kuv me kwvtij Dr Shoua lawv tuaj tham tej
niag lus Pajpaws li no thiab...ntuj aws...cas yuav qaub kuv pobntseg
ua luaj li no...
tos kuv tso li rau tijlaug YTK mas, vim kuv mloog tej no tag mus nrog
rau li tijlaug YTK hais ntawm Seng Xiong lawv ntiag tug tag....kuv
cias li--tsi pom qab yuav cev tau ib lub penny li lawm tiag.
kuv twb hnov Diane Chang tias, Thaib yog PhimXoomHuam no nav...vim li
cas tseem hos yuav cias li ua dog ua dig li no thiab--thaum kawg ces
yus nyiaj los poob, dabtsi los poob tag li--yus tsi muaj ib qhov BASED
li ntag. es yus twb yuav ua plaub ua ntug thiab hais xaiv hais lus
es yus tsi tuav kom khov kho li es yus ua mus ua los--yus twb yeej
lawm los...zoo li yus cias li yuav yog tus SWB li lawm thiab.
ntuj aws, peb hmoob ces yeej tseem coj kiag li qub--tus ua los tsi
sablaj li...nyias ua kiag li nyias lub siab Hmoob xwb tiag tiag. hais
los yeej tsi yuav li ntag.....smiles...thaum pib kiag xwb, hauv kuv
lub zos nad...tijlaug Yingb yuav hnov lawm thiab...muaj coob tus mas
ua heev tsi heev li--yus hais tias kom tham nrog Cai thiab hais lus
kom yuav TAU thiab noj nyog mus los tau xwb. muaj ib cov mas tsi kam
li ntag, lawv ua kiag li lawv lub siab qhuas thiab nws xav tau xwb----
thaum ua tag tuaj kom pab Signature no...kuv xav xav, kuv cias li tsi
Signature rau. vim hais tias, nws tsi yog hais kom mus noj nyog mus
los tau hos...nws hais lus kom mobsiab thiab puvncauj xwb...ces tsi
xav kom muaj npe nyob hauv tej list zoo li ntawd thiab ces kuv ua ib
siab tsi signature li ntag hod....hahhahahaa LOLz!
kwvtijhmoob neb txhob phov ntau ntau nawb, kuv yuav kom tijlaug Yingb
nrog thiab Neegtojsiab thiab kuv tuaj muab neb cov tawv Npuateb noj
kom tag ua ntej ntag nawb...hahahaha LOLz!
koj kwv Born
Thorn...@yahoo.com
May 16, 2012, 11:25:46 PM5/16/12
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Lawv le kuv ncu dr suav cov lug mas muaj qee yaam nwg kuj has tau ok
lawm hab kuas caag has moog has lug zoo le yaw ca le yog ib tug saub
kws moog cuag tau yawm saub lawm hab tsij sub es. Muab xaam has tas dr
suav tsis yog kawm tav dr rua politic xwb kuas yaw kuj loj sis paub
txuj ntuj lug hab moog cuag tau tswv ntuj lawm hab, hwb caag yuav moog
haib ua luaj le hov mas. Yog zoo le hov nua ntshai yuav tsis qoos teg
le mej ib co has lawm tag; kuv noog nwg has moog has tuaj ca le ua
saub vwm tsuj tsawv lawm sub laiv. Xaav nug dr suav has tas teb
chaws thaib nyob taj tug hab vaam meej le naj nub nuav puas yog vim
muaj vp hab tug kaulau nee Moob Yaaj (nov qaab npe lawm) kws dr suav
teev rua huv nwg cov lug paab es Thaib txhaj le vaam meej? Dr suav, as
a doctor xob txua tej lug cuav ntawm ko, kuv noog mas koj tsuas yog
has kuas cov Moob laug tsis paub tom ntej tom qaab lug poog koj xwb
tej ntawm ko tsis muaj ib nyuag qhov tseeb hlo le. Txawm tas tej tug
laug tsis tau kawm ntaub ntawv sab le kuv nuav los tub paub has tas
koj ib nraab lug yog lug cuav xwb kws koj txua rua xwb. Kuv xaav nug
koj has tas vim le caag mej cov tub txawg tsis hu ib suab kuas suav
dlawg cov kws xaav xaav pab Moob lug ua tuab tug xwb es koj nim yuav
muaj koj ib paab, Laura nim muaj Laura ib paab, tug puj Moob Tsaab mej
has los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab, Mee Moua los nwg muaj nwg ib paab
hua Sab Lauj hab Cha vp puab los nwg nim mua nwg ib paab hua peb yawm
kwv tij Xeeb Xyooj los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab hab maj? Mej cov nuav
mas tug twg los nyag nim cuab nyag zaaj txhaj le yuav tau noj xwb,
paab mej txaj muag dlhau lawm hab lauj. Mej yuav muab qhov nyuag Thaib
khawb Moob ntxaa coj lug has kuas UN muab Thaib ib thaaj aav faib ua
teb chaws Moob, awb yawb, yawb caag es yuav muaj zoo formula ua luaj
tag le lauj, kab has tas yawm YTK mej tes tsis yog moog has yeej Thaib
xwb hua tseem yuav moog txeeb tau Thaibteb hab nuav mas caag yuav moog
zoo tag tag le. Tog le kuv xij has tas nub twg tug faajkhum laug qaug
mas yuav tsum muaj cov faajkhum miv luj hlub tuaj ntxoov lub roob nua,
seb yuav pib muaj lawm tag tag lauj!
lawm hab kuas caag has moog has lug zoo le yaw ca le yog ib tug saub
kws moog cuag tau yawm saub lawm hab tsij sub es. Muab xaam has tas dr
suav tsis yog kawm tav dr rua politic xwb kuas yaw kuj loj sis paub
txuj ntuj lug hab moog cuag tau tswv ntuj lawm hab, hwb caag yuav moog
haib ua luaj le hov mas. Yog zoo le hov nua ntshai yuav tsis qoos teg
le mej ib co has lawm tag; kuv noog nwg has moog has tuaj ca le ua
saub vwm tsuj tsawv lawm sub laiv. Xaav nug dr suav has tas teb
chaws thaib nyob taj tug hab vaam meej le naj nub nuav puas yog vim
muaj vp hab tug kaulau nee Moob Yaaj (nov qaab npe lawm) kws dr suav
teev rua huv nwg cov lug paab es Thaib txhaj le vaam meej? Dr suav, as
a doctor xob txua tej lug cuav ntawm ko, kuv noog mas koj tsuas yog
has kuas cov Moob laug tsis paub tom ntej tom qaab lug poog koj xwb
tej ntawm ko tsis muaj ib nyuag qhov tseeb hlo le. Txawm tas tej tug
laug tsis tau kawm ntaub ntawv sab le kuv nuav los tub paub has tas
koj ib nraab lug yog lug cuav xwb kws koj txua rua xwb. Kuv xaav nug
koj has tas vim le caag mej cov tub txawg tsis hu ib suab kuas suav
dlawg cov kws xaav xaav pab Moob lug ua tuab tug xwb es koj nim yuav
muaj koj ib paab, Laura nim muaj Laura ib paab, tug puj Moob Tsaab mej
has los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab, Mee Moua los nwg muaj nwg ib paab
hua Sab Lauj hab Cha vp puab los nwg nim mua nwg ib paab hua peb yawm
kwv tij Xeeb Xyooj los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab hab maj? Mej cov nuav
mas tug twg los nyag nim cuab nyag zaaj txhaj le yuav tau noj xwb,
paab mej txaj muag dlhau lawm hab lauj. Mej yuav muab qhov nyuag Thaib
khawb Moob ntxaa coj lug has kuas UN muab Thaib ib thaaj aav faib ua
teb chaws Moob, awb yawb, yawb caag es yuav muaj zoo formula ua luaj
tag le lauj, kab has tas yawm YTK mej tes tsis yog moog has yeej Thaib
xwb hua tseem yuav moog txeeb tau Thaibteb hab nuav mas caag yuav moog
zoo tag tag le. Tog le kuv xij has tas nub twg tug faajkhum laug qaug
mas yuav tsum muaj cov faajkhum miv luj hlub tuaj ntxoov lub roob nua,
seb yuav pib muaj lawm tag tag lauj!
dony
May 17, 2012, 12:30:26 AM5/17/12
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Raws li kuv nco mas zoo li thaum i koj hais tias yog niag Vajkhaum
tsis vau mas yeej yuav ntxoov Hmoob thiab Hmoob yuav mus tsis txog
qhov twg no los tsis yog na? Kuv xav hais tias koj yuav tsum txhob ua
li niag vajkhaum ntawd laiv. Yog koj tseem dhau los ua ib niag
Vajkhaum thiab ces peb cov dr.s. yeej yuav kawg mus tsis taus li thiab
nawb. Kuv saib koj thiab kuv laus lawm ces cia wb nyob ib sab ntsia
xwb cia tej hluas ua saib mus paus txog qhov twg las ma yuam os..Phiaj
Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 17, 2012, 7:07:04 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 10:25 pm, Thornsp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thurnsp,
Tam li kuv paub mas koj thiab Dr. Yang Dao nej yog ib qhab nab ua hauj
lwm rau nplog liab, thaum i kuv hnov koj hais txog niag fajkhaum laus
mas phem dag noj dag haus kawg nkaus no, kuv xav tias ntshe yog koj
nrog Hmoob ib pab kas moos twg es koj hais no uas ua cas txog thaum
paub qhov tseeb no na has koj yog ua hauj lwm rau nplog liab. Koj
ntseeg nplog liab npaum ntawd ua cas koj tsi nyob twb ywm tim nplog
txhob khiav tuaj tim teb chaws thib 3 no, es thaum twg koj pom Hmoob
meskas los ces koj ua niag neeg thov khawv raws Hmoob meskas qab ncuj
nciav, thiab koj tso me nyuam tuaj thov khawv nyiaj ua yam niag rhuav
plhu ntsuav li hais no-no.
> le mej ib co has lawm tag; kuv noog nwg has moog has tuaj ca le ua
> saub vwm tsuj tsawv lawm sub laiv.
Kuv xav nug koj hais tias tus neeg Vwm coj yam ntxwv kev noj nyob zoo
li cas? Tus neeg tsi Vwm ho coj tus yam ntxwv zoo li cas no? koj sim
piav me ntsis tshab txhais rau peb mloog thiab suas.
> khawb Moob ntxaa coj lug has kuas UN muab Thaib ib thaaj aav faib ua
> teb chaws Moob, awb yawb, yawb caag es yuav muaj zoo formula ua luaj
> tag le lauj, kab has tas yawm YTK mej tes tsis yog moog has yeej Thaib
> xwb hua tseem yuav moog txeeb tau Thaibteb hab nuav mas caag yuav moog
> zoo tag tag le.
Kuv xav nug koj tias neeg ntiaj teb ib sij muaj dua ib lub teb chaws
tshiab ntxiv quj qees tuaj ntawd yog ua li cas thiaj li muaj taus tej
teb chaws li ntawd ntxiv quj qees? Kuv pom koj rab nriam mas muab ceem
tau nkeg dhau hwv lawm hov los zeeg hniav xwb yuav siv tsi tau rau
Hmoob, tab sis yog ua dev raws nqaij rau nplog liab tua no nyaj yuav
tshaj lij ua tau heev rau lub tswv yim thau haiv ntawd. Thaum cov hauv
SCH no hais txog Dr. YD thiab Dr. Pao Thao nkawd mus txais Liam tim
nplog mas koj tsi tuaj qw ib suab li cuag li koj twb tsaug zog tas li
tsi sawv, koj txoj kev ua tau tsuas yog ua tau ntawm ntug cub rau
Hmoob xwb ne.
Yog ntse npaum koj ko ua cas tsi mus khaws nplog quav ci thiab tos noj
nplog liab cov mov txeej hauv av tim nplog es tseem tuaj raws Hmoob
qab ncuj nciav li niag neeg thov khawv tsi muaj tsev nyob. GVP kuj
muaj ntau qhov zoo thiab, VP tsi zoo tab sis nws ho yog GVP no laiv,
thaum VP hnub nyoog 34 xyoo xwb nws twb tau GVP lawm, tus neeg hluas
npaum twb tau General lawm no GVP yeej yog neeg ntse tsim nyog ntawm
nws txoj kev txawj lawm ov. Koj li yog dev raws nqaij xwb tsi tas tawm
tuaj hais lus, ua ntej yus yuav hais lus yus yuav qhia tau ib cov lus
tseem ceeb rau neeg paub thiab kawm koj tej lus txawj lus ntse, ua cas
tsi muaj ib lo lus uas kuv yuav khaws koj cov lus cia ua ntshuaj li,
pab koj tus siab tias ua neeg hais lus tsi muaj qab hau rau neeg kawm.
>..................................................................koj nim yuav
hab, niag ruam le nplog lab es txhaj le muab Liam rua mej xwb ov, mej
twb ua tsi tau ib nyuag qhov num rau nplog liab li, nej lam dag nplog
liab nyiaj noj nkaus xwb tus neeg dag thiab Vwm ces txawm yog koj
ntag, tus neeg Vwm mas nws tsi paub tus tswv tsev yog leej twg li
lawm, leej twg qhib qhov rooj ces nkag mus rau lub qhov rooj ntawd Vim
lub Hlwb hnov qab tsi meej pem lawm ua zaj twg los tsuas lawv luag kua
hnia luag paus tas li xwb ces yog neeg Vwm.
Kwv Dony,
Koj cov lus no yog kawg lawm nawb...
> Raws li kuv nco mas zoo li thaum i koj hais tias yog niag Vajkhaum
> tsis vau mas yeej yuav ntxoov Hmoob thiab Hmoob yuav mus tsis txog
> qhov twg no los tsis yog na? Kuv xav hais tias koj yuav tsum txhob ua
> li niag vajkhaum ntawd laiv. Yog koj tseem dhau los ua ib niag
> Vajkhaum thiab ces peb cov dr.s. yeej yuav kawg mus tsis taus li thiab
> nawb. Kuv saib koj thiab kuv laus lawm ces cia wb nyob ib sab ntsia
> xwb cia tej hluas ua saib mus paus txog qhov twg las ma yuam os..Phiaj
Nws twb ua tsi tau ib nyuag qhov pab ib tus Hmoob qhov twg hlo li, nws
tsuas ua tau qhov uas dag nplog liab nyiaj noj nkaus xwb. Ua cas tsob
Fajkhaum qaug tav ntuj no lawm es Thorsp ho ua tau dab tsi rau Hmoob
thiab, tsi tau li ne, ua neeg cas yuav ntse nrau qwb ua luaj yuav ua
cas tau noj thiab no.
YTK
Thurnsp,
Tam li kuv paub mas koj thiab Dr. Yang Dao nej yog ib qhab nab ua hauj
lwm rau nplog liab, thaum i kuv hnov koj hais txog niag fajkhaum laus
mas phem dag noj dag haus kawg nkaus no, kuv xav tias ntshe yog koj
nrog Hmoob ib pab kas moos twg es koj hais no uas ua cas txog thaum
paub qhov tseeb no na has koj yog ua hauj lwm rau nplog liab. Koj
ntseeg nplog liab npaum ntawd ua cas koj tsi nyob twb ywm tim nplog
txhob khiav tuaj tim teb chaws thib 3 no, es thaum twg koj pom Hmoob
meskas los ces koj ua niag neeg thov khawv raws Hmoob meskas qab ncuj
nciav, thiab koj tso me nyuam tuaj thov khawv nyiaj ua yam niag rhuav
plhu ntsuav li hais no-no.
> le mej ib co has lawm tag; kuv noog nwg has moog has tuaj ca le ua
> saub vwm tsuj tsawv lawm sub laiv.
li cas? Tus neeg tsi Vwm ho coj tus yam ntxwv zoo li cas no? koj sim
piav me ntsis tshab txhais rau peb mloog thiab suas.
> khawb Moob ntxaa coj lug has kuas UN muab Thaib ib thaaj aav faib ua
> teb chaws Moob, awb yawb, yawb caag es yuav muaj zoo formula ua luaj
> tag le lauj, kab has tas yawm YTK mej tes tsis yog moog has yeej Thaib
> xwb hua tseem yuav moog txeeb tau Thaibteb hab nuav mas caag yuav moog
> zoo tag tag le.
tshiab ntxiv quj qees tuaj ntawd yog ua li cas thiaj li muaj taus tej
teb chaws li ntawd ntxiv quj qees? Kuv pom koj rab nriam mas muab ceem
tau nkeg dhau hwv lawm hov los zeeg hniav xwb yuav siv tsi tau rau
Hmoob, tab sis yog ua dev raws nqaij rau nplog liab tua no nyaj yuav
tshaj lij ua tau heev rau lub tswv yim thau haiv ntawd. Thaum cov hauv
SCH no hais txog Dr. YD thiab Dr. Pao Thao nkawd mus txais Liam tim
nplog mas koj tsi tuaj qw ib suab li cuag li koj twb tsaug zog tas li
tsi sawv, koj txoj kev ua tau tsuas yog ua tau ntawm ntug cub rau
Hmoob xwb ne.
Yog ntse npaum koj ko ua cas tsi mus khaws nplog quav ci thiab tos noj
nplog liab cov mov txeej hauv av tim nplog es tseem tuaj raws Hmoob
qab ncuj nciav li niag neeg thov khawv tsi muaj tsev nyob. GVP kuj
muaj ntau qhov zoo thiab, VP tsi zoo tab sis nws ho yog GVP no laiv,
thaum VP hnub nyoog 34 xyoo xwb nws twb tau GVP lawm, tus neeg hluas
npaum twb tau General lawm no GVP yeej yog neeg ntse tsim nyog ntawm
nws txoj kev txawj lawm ov. Koj li yog dev raws nqaij xwb tsi tas tawm
tuaj hais lus, ua ntej yus yuav hais lus yus yuav qhia tau ib cov lus
tseem ceeb rau neeg paub thiab kawm koj tej lus txawj lus ntse, ua cas
tsi muaj ib lo lus uas kuv yuav khaws koj cov lus cia ua ntshuaj li,
pab koj tus siab tias ua neeg hais lus tsi muaj qab hau rau neeg kawm.
>..................................................................koj nim yuav
> muaj koj ib paab, Laura nim muaj Laura ib paab, tug puj Moob Tsaab mej
> has los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab, Mee Moua los nwg muaj nwg ib paab
> hua Sab Lauj hab Cha vp puab los nwg nim mua nwg ib paab hua peb yawm
> kwv tij Xeeb Xyooj los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab hab maj? Mej cov nuav
> mas tug twg los nyag nim cuab nyag zaaj txhaj le yuav tau noj xwb,
Ua le ne koj tug kws ua num nrug paab nplog lab ho ua tau dlaab tsis
> has los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab, Mee Moua los nwg muaj nwg ib paab
> hua Sab Lauj hab Cha vp puab los nwg nim mua nwg ib paab hua peb yawm
> kwv tij Xeeb Xyooj los nwg nim muaj nwg ib paab hab maj? Mej cov nuav
> mas tug twg los nyag nim cuab nyag zaaj txhaj le yuav tau noj xwb,
hab, niag ruam le nplog lab es txhaj le muab Liam rua mej xwb ov, mej
twb ua tsi tau ib nyuag qhov num rau nplog liab li, nej lam dag nplog
liab nyiaj noj nkaus xwb tus neeg dag thiab Vwm ces txawm yog koj
ntag, tus neeg Vwm mas nws tsi paub tus tswv tsev yog leej twg li
lawm, leej twg qhib qhov rooj ces nkag mus rau lub qhov rooj ntawd Vim
lub Hlwb hnov qab tsi meej pem lawm ua zaj twg los tsuas lawv luag kua
hnia luag paus tas li xwb ces yog neeg Vwm.
Kwv Dony,
Koj cov lus no yog kawg lawm nawb...
> Raws li kuv nco mas zoo li thaum i koj hais tias yog niag Vajkhaum
> tsis vau mas yeej yuav ntxoov Hmoob thiab Hmoob yuav mus tsis txog
> qhov twg no los tsis yog na? Kuv xav hais tias koj yuav tsum txhob ua
> li niag vajkhaum ntawd laiv. Yog koj tseem dhau los ua ib niag
> Vajkhaum thiab ces peb cov dr.s. yeej yuav kawg mus tsis taus li thiab
> nawb. Kuv saib koj thiab kuv laus lawm ces cia wb nyob ib sab ntsia
> xwb cia tej hluas ua saib mus paus txog qhov twg las ma yuam os..Phiaj
tsuas ua tau qhov uas dag nplog liab nyiaj noj nkaus xwb. Ua cas tsob
Fajkhaum qaug tav ntuj no lawm es Thorsp ho ua tau dab tsi rau Hmoob
thiab, tsi tau li ne, ua neeg cas yuav ntse nrau qwb ua luaj yuav ua
cas tau noj thiab no.
YTK
Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 17, 2012, 7:25:51 AM5/17/12
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Thornsp,
Koj lub tswv yim puas npaum tus liab no? twb tsi piv li tus liab no,
Liab tseem ntse dua koj lawm es koj yuav ua cas nrog taus Hmoob nyob
xib txig. Koj ntsia seb liab ntse npaum cas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0jlplwD-s
Luag yog liab luag tseem paub dua koj lawm es koj twb tsi piv liab
lawm es yuav ua cas paub tau li liab thiab no puas yog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO0RfW8fJc
Koj zoo li tus no naws tsi ua dab tsi li tsuas txais dhia cov lag rau
ub rau no ces txog kawg los zaum qhov qub li no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3SXXmjbJTM&feature=related
YTK
Koj lub tswv yim puas npaum tus liab no? twb tsi piv li tus liab no,
Liab tseem ntse dua koj lawm es koj yuav ua cas nrog taus Hmoob nyob
xib txig. Koj ntsia seb liab ntse npaum cas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0jlplwD-s
Luag yog liab luag tseem paub dua koj lawm es koj twb tsi piv liab
lawm es yuav ua cas paub tau li liab thiab no puas yog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO0RfW8fJc
Koj zoo li tus no naws tsi ua dab tsi li tsuas txais dhia cov lag rau
ub rau no ces txog kawg los zaum qhov qub li no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3SXXmjbJTM&feature=related
YTK
Born2beMhong
May 17, 2012, 11:09:33 AM5/17/12
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YTK & Dony,
tijlaug YTK aws, koj teb Thornsp ua dabtsi naj....hahahhahaa LOLz!
twb yog li Phiajzeb hais lawm ned, Thornsp yeej ib txwm hais tseg
tias, tos tus ntoo Fajkhaum nkoj kiag lawm ces zoo li Tauv Huab ua
yuav Kajnrig thiab Yajntshi lawm ntag. txhua yam ces yuav ua tau xws
li Hmoob lub siab ntshaw lawm no nawb.
Ziag no, Ntoo Fajkhaum twb lov ntho lawm dhau 1 xyoo no lawm--hmoob
yeej tsi pom tau Huab Kajnrig nyob qhov twg li--hmoob tseem phem tshaj
thiab zoo kiag li nram Africa ua li cov Hyena es sibtog puv zej puv
zos thoob plaws lub teb chaw Ameska no thiab tiag nawb.
yog li, txhob tham nrog cov neeg ua Saub es muaj wrong prediction no
lawm nawb...hahhahaa LOLz!
Born2beHmong
tijlaug YTK aws, koj teb Thornsp ua dabtsi naj....hahahhahaa LOLz!
twb yog li Phiajzeb hais lawm ned, Thornsp yeej ib txwm hais tseg
tias, tos tus ntoo Fajkhaum nkoj kiag lawm ces zoo li Tauv Huab ua
yuav Kajnrig thiab Yajntshi lawm ntag. txhua yam ces yuav ua tau xws
li Hmoob lub siab ntshaw lawm no nawb.
Ziag no, Ntoo Fajkhaum twb lov ntho lawm dhau 1 xyoo no lawm--hmoob
yeej tsi pom tau Huab Kajnrig nyob qhov twg li--hmoob tseem phem tshaj
thiab zoo kiag li nram Africa ua li cov Hyena es sibtog puv zej puv
zos thoob plaws lub teb chaw Ameska no thiab tiag nawb.
yog li, txhob tham nrog cov neeg ua Saub es muaj wrong prediction no
lawm nawb...hahhahaa LOLz!
Born2beHmong
neegtojsiab
May 17, 2012, 12:28:05 PM5/17/12
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Cov py, leej twg ua los nyias yeej muaj nyias ib lub tswv yim
zoo...kav tsij ua. Tam sim no xav pom thiab paub ces seb leej twg
yog tus yuav los coj tsev neeg Hmoob mus rau ib ruam rau txoj kev
tshav ntuj xwb os. Niaj hnub no nej txhua tus qhov muag pom kev yeej
paub thiab pom hais tias Hmoob txom nyeem npaum cas lawm nev? Pej
xeem Hmoob, ntseeg tau hais tias, feem coob yeej tos seb leej twg
thiaj yog tus cawm seej lawm.....? Kev sib theev lub tswv yim yuav
tau muaj thiaj vam meej, tawm sis lub tswv yim xwb, nej cov qhov muag
pom kev txhob tawm tsam tus neeg.... yog thaum ib tug ua yog lawm, tim
tsum koj nej txhua tus lub qhov muag pom kev los nrog koom tes thiab
qhib nej lub tswv yim vam meej los ua kom tau ib txoj kev vam meej rau
tsev Hmoob taug.....
NTS
zoo...kav tsij ua. Tam sim no xav pom thiab paub ces seb leej twg
yog tus yuav los coj tsev neeg Hmoob mus rau ib ruam rau txoj kev
tshav ntuj xwb os. Niaj hnub no nej txhua tus qhov muag pom kev yeej
paub thiab pom hais tias Hmoob txom nyeem npaum cas lawm nev? Pej
xeem Hmoob, ntseeg tau hais tias, feem coob yeej tos seb leej twg
thiaj yog tus cawm seej lawm.....? Kev sib theev lub tswv yim yuav
tau muaj thiaj vam meej, tawm sis lub tswv yim xwb, nej cov qhov muag
pom kev txhob tawm tsam tus neeg.... yog thaum ib tug ua yog lawm, tim
tsum koj nej txhua tus lub qhov muag pom kev los nrog koom tes thiab
qhib nej lub tswv yim vam meej los ua kom tau ib txoj kev vam meej rau
tsev Hmoob taug.....
NTS
kwvtijhmoob
May 17, 2012, 12:29:27 PM5/17/12
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born-- ytk tham xwb kuv ntsia twb txaus dhau hwv lawm. koj tsis txhob
txawj txawj tham hyena ntxiv rau thiab tsam ib chim lion tawm tuaj ces
ho dhia tsis qhig ov mog haj..haj..haj...
>kwvtijhmoob neb txhob phov ntau ntau nawb, kuv yuav kom tijlaug Yingb
>nrog thiab Neegtojsiab thiab kuv tuaj muab neb cov tawv Npuateb noj
>kom tag ua ntej ntag nawb...hahahaha LOLz!
yog nej sawvdaws tuaj tiag no kuv mam li caw koj kwv nomleej thiab
phwvnyawm neb txiv nomkhwb tuaj thiab es mam kom nws nqa 4-5 hwj cawv
tuaj ntxiv thiab peb thiaj tsoo khob muaj ceem nawb. tab sis koj ces
kuv twb paub lawm, lam hais xwb yuav tuaj tsis tau vim thaum i koj twb
twv twv rau zeh tias koj yuav tuaj sib tw nrog zeh khiav liab qab ncig
tshav npas no tab sis koj rov nplab hlaub tuaj xwb ces zeh thiaj ua ib
siab tawm hauv sch no mus lawm tsis tuaj ntxiv lawm ne
haj..haj..haj...
txawj txawj tham hyena ntxiv rau thiab tsam ib chim lion tawm tuaj ces
ho dhia tsis qhig ov mog haj..haj..haj...
>kwvtijhmoob neb txhob phov ntau ntau nawb, kuv yuav kom tijlaug Yingb
>nrog thiab Neegtojsiab thiab kuv tuaj muab neb cov tawv Npuateb noj
>kom tag ua ntej ntag nawb...hahahaha LOLz!
phwvnyawm neb txiv nomkhwb tuaj thiab es mam kom nws nqa 4-5 hwj cawv
tuaj ntxiv thiab peb thiaj tsoo khob muaj ceem nawb. tab sis koj ces
kuv twb paub lawm, lam hais xwb yuav tuaj tsis tau vim thaum i koj twb
twv twv rau zeh tias koj yuav tuaj sib tw nrog zeh khiav liab qab ncig
tshav npas no tab sis koj rov nplab hlaub tuaj xwb ces zeh thiaj ua ib
siab tawm hauv sch no mus lawm tsis tuaj ntxiv lawm ne
haj..haj..haj...
TseemYeej
May 17, 2012, 12:49:17 PM5/17/12
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Yawg hlob YTK thiab Yawg hlob Born,
On May 17, 8:09 am, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> yog li, txhob tham nrog cov neeg ua Saub es muaj wrong prediction no
> lawm nawb...hahhahaa LOLz!
Ua cas es luag lwm tus tawm suab los yog ua tej yam twg no pheej
txhaum neb tas li ne. Senator of MN Mee Moua thiab Attorney Siab Lo ua
los txhaum, Diane Chang ua los txhaum, Dr. Suav hais los txhaum,
Thornsp hais los txhaum. Pab twg pawg twg ua dabtsi tiv thaiv Hmoob
ces txhaum neb tag tib si. Neb rau siab ntso thuam thiab cem luag lwm
tus tsw quav ntxiag tas li xwb. Ua li no, neb ua tau dab tsi tsheej
haj lawm thiab, los yog tseem tuaj npuas ncauj li koj kuv peb hauv SCH
no thiab xwb? Hahaha....
Thov ne 2 tug ua hlob, yuav coj peb kom ciaj haiv lawm tom ntej, hais
lus kom tuaj nruab nrab ntug me ntsis thiab yom os. Yawg hlob YTK ces
twb tsis kam qhia nws tus kheej li, tabsis tsawm luag tej mas phab mas
lis li. Yawg hlob Born los tib yam, tsis kam piav txog nws tej dej nwm
uas nws ua tau pub rau Hmoob li, tsuas tab haj thuam luag lwm leej lwm
tus tas li xwb. Sau ntawv mas aub yauj e...tsheej phab tsheej pheev
cuag dej nyab nras li. Tig sab twg los nws yeej nco ntsoov qhuas tias
nws mas tshajlij tshaj lwm leej lwm tus li.
Ntuj e...Ua cas nim yuav cuag rho nrig ntau av li os. Yog rho nrig
ntaus av ces leej twg los ham tsis ntaus raug tag li las mas, tab qis
muag ntaus twb raug nav.
Txawm hais tau sab neb zog lawm los, thov zam txim rau nyuag yaus tus
txuj qis thiab nawb.
Nyuag yaus TseemYeej.
On May 17, 8:09 am, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> yog li, txhob tham nrog cov neeg ua Saub es muaj wrong prediction no
> lawm nawb...hahhahaa LOLz!
txhaum neb tas li ne. Senator of MN Mee Moua thiab Attorney Siab Lo ua
los txhaum, Diane Chang ua los txhaum, Dr. Suav hais los txhaum,
Thornsp hais los txhaum. Pab twg pawg twg ua dabtsi tiv thaiv Hmoob
ces txhaum neb tag tib si. Neb rau siab ntso thuam thiab cem luag lwm
tus tsw quav ntxiag tas li xwb. Ua li no, neb ua tau dab tsi tsheej
haj lawm thiab, los yog tseem tuaj npuas ncauj li koj kuv peb hauv SCH
no thiab xwb? Hahaha....
Thov ne 2 tug ua hlob, yuav coj peb kom ciaj haiv lawm tom ntej, hais
lus kom tuaj nruab nrab ntug me ntsis thiab yom os. Yawg hlob YTK ces
twb tsis kam qhia nws tus kheej li, tabsis tsawm luag tej mas phab mas
lis li. Yawg hlob Born los tib yam, tsis kam piav txog nws tej dej nwm
uas nws ua tau pub rau Hmoob li, tsuas tab haj thuam luag lwm leej lwm
tus tas li xwb. Sau ntawv mas aub yauj e...tsheej phab tsheej pheev
cuag dej nyab nras li. Tig sab twg los nws yeej nco ntsoov qhuas tias
nws mas tshajlij tshaj lwm leej lwm tus li.
Ntuj e...Ua cas nim yuav cuag rho nrig ntau av li os. Yog rho nrig
ntaus av ces leej twg los ham tsis ntaus raug tag li las mas, tab qis
muag ntaus twb raug nav.
Txawm hais tau sab neb zog lawm los, thov zam txim rau nyuag yaus tus
txuj qis thiab nawb.
Nyuag yaus TseemYeej.
Mouatony
May 17, 2012, 1:05:46 PM5/17/12
to
Ib tsoom bojyaig Moob,
Kuv los xaam pum le Thorn..has hab vim Dr.Suav tsi yog tej tuab neeg
kawm nqev nqev es leej twg tsi paub tabsi yug yog ib tug Assistance
Professor es lus lug ( bausuav ) nuas yuav has tsi tau vim yug yog ib
tug educator mas yuav tsum refer tsua yaam kws muaj txuj cai xwb. Yog
bausuav nuas ce yog SAUB lawm es SAUB txhaj pw ua bausuav xwb.
Thanks,
MT
Kuv los xaam pum le Thorn..has hab vim Dr.Suav tsi yog tej tuab neeg
kawm nqev nqev es leej twg tsi paub tabsi yug yog ib tug Assistance
Professor es lus lug ( bausuav ) nuas yuav has tsi tau vim yug yog ib
tug educator mas yuav tsum refer tsua yaam kws muaj txuj cai xwb. Yog
bausuav nuas ce yog SAUB lawm es SAUB txhaj pw ua bausuav xwb.
Thanks,
MT
phwvnyawm
May 17, 2012, 2:16:34 PM5/17/12
to
Kwvtij hmoob,
Tus Born yuav nrog sib tw khiav LIAB QAB yog Hnubkaj tsis yog Zhen
nawb.
Yawg hlob Thorps,
Tus col. hmoob Yaj Dr Suav hais....... npe hu ua Vam Xeeb Yaj.
Hmoob ua plaub ces ua-ua tsis muaj chaw xaus ces thaum kawg ua li Dr
Suav Yaj hais xwb los mas.........MAM MUS HAIS PLAUB SAUM NTUJ.
Nej puas hnov Dr Suav zaj npau suav maj......Thaib yawg hauj SAM luam
Phob thiab cov hmoob raug khawb ntxa twb ua plaub nyob saum ntuj lawm
no ned.
Ntshai zaum no hmoob twb KWV PAIB nyob saum ntuj lawm thiab
lauj.......hmoob ces keej tib qhov kwv PAIB nkaus-s xwb.
Tus Born yuav nrog sib tw khiav LIAB QAB yog Hnubkaj tsis yog Zhen
nawb.
Yawg hlob Thorps,
Tus col. hmoob Yaj Dr Suav hais....... npe hu ua Vam Xeeb Yaj.
Hmoob ua plaub ces ua-ua tsis muaj chaw xaus ces thaum kawg ua li Dr
Suav Yaj hais xwb los mas.........MAM MUS HAIS PLAUB SAUM NTUJ.
Nej puas hnov Dr Suav zaj npau suav maj......Thaib yawg hauj SAM luam
Phob thiab cov hmoob raug khawb ntxa twb ua plaub nyob saum ntuj lawm
no ned.
Ntshai zaum no hmoob twb KWV PAIB nyob saum ntuj lawm thiab
lauj.......hmoob ces keej tib qhov kwv PAIB nkaus-s xwb.
neegtojsiab
May 17, 2012, 2:34:31 PM5/17/12
to
Kwvtijhmoob, koj txhob twv2 kuv nyuag hlob Born thiab py Yingb nkawd
nawb. Nyob rau MadCity yawg yog peb ib tug tij laug uas koom peb cov
kwv tij caiv plawv nrad kawg li thiab hos. Yog kuv lam nyob MadCity
thiab txhob kos tau npe kawm ntawv lub caij ntuj so no mas kuv nrog
hlob Born nkawd tuaj kom koj pom peb cov me kwv tij...... qhov kuv
txhawj xeeb me ntsis ces tsam tuaj pom cov kwv tij coob tus, cov txiv
thiab tij laug lam muab hlob Born tso pw xwb yog nej yuav tsoo cawv
thiab npias nas...hahaha!
nawb. Nyob rau MadCity yawg yog peb ib tug tij laug uas koom peb cov
kwv tij caiv plawv nrad kawg li thiab hos. Yog kuv lam nyob MadCity
thiab txhob kos tau npe kawm ntawv lub caij ntuj so no mas kuv nrog
hlob Born nkawd tuaj kom koj pom peb cov me kwv tij...... qhov kuv
txhawj xeeb me ntsis ces tsam tuaj pom cov kwv tij coob tus, cov txiv
thiab tij laug lam muab hlob Born tso pw xwb yog nej yuav tsoo cawv
thiab npias nas...hahaha!
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 17, 2012, 3:26:07 PM5/17/12
to
On Monday, May 14, 2012 11:01:25 PM UTC-5, Yaj Tshaj Koob wrote:
> Kuv mloog mas Dr, Shouav Yang hais tau raug chua kawg lawm, yog ua tau
> no Hmoob yuav tau mob siab los sib koom seb Hmoob lub neej puas yuav
> peem tsheej mus rau ib txoj zoo kom lwm haiv neeg ho saib taus Hmoob
> thiab no.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPm2NotRjk
>
> Kuv ntseeg hais tias peb Hmoob txoj kev txawj ntse ces nyaj yuav mus
> tsi tshaj Dr. Shoua Yaj cov lus no lawm thiab, yog tias muaj kev ncaj
> ncees nyob nrog lub koom haum Haiv.
>
> Qhov txhawj yog muaj ntau lub koom tsi haum heev ua haiv thiab no mas
> tsam ho peem tsi tsheej xwb, vim Hmoob ib txwm yeej nyiam tus neeg dag
> ntau dua li tus neeg hais tiag.
>
>
> YTK
muaj ntau pab nyias hais nyias txoj kev mas thiaj yog tsis kam los taug ib txoj kev li ntag. ntshe nej xwb kuv ces tsam no zaum saib lawm xwb os. tsis yog hais tias sawv daws koom taug ib txoj kev. yog ntsib txoj kev tws los sib pab tho kom tau kev mus. txoj kev mus hla dej los sib pab ua phuaj hla. muaj kuj ha tob los ua choj hla. nyias xav taug nyias txoj ces mus mus kev tws ces zaum tsaws quaj xwb xa tho kev los ib/ob leeg xwb tho tho rian yaig ti nkaus ko los kev tsis tau tshab.
> Kuv mloog mas Dr, Shouav Yang hais tau raug chua kawg lawm, yog ua tau
> no Hmoob yuav tau mob siab los sib koom seb Hmoob lub neej puas yuav
> peem tsheej mus rau ib txoj zoo kom lwm haiv neeg ho saib taus Hmoob
> thiab no.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPm2NotRjk
>
> Kuv ntseeg hais tias peb Hmoob txoj kev txawj ntse ces nyaj yuav mus
> tsi tshaj Dr. Shoua Yaj cov lus no lawm thiab, yog tias muaj kev ncaj
> ncees nyob nrog lub koom haum Haiv.
>
> Qhov txhawj yog muaj ntau lub koom tsi haum heev ua haiv thiab no mas
> tsam ho peem tsi tsheej xwb, vim Hmoob ib txwm yeej nyiam tus neeg dag
> ntau dua li tus neeg hais tiag.
>
>
> YTK
kaj tsij sib tw nyias mus nyias txoj kuv mam zaum no saib.
DownUnder
May 17, 2012, 3:44:39 PM5/17/12
to
On Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:31:05 AM UTC-6, DownUnder posted to
SCH:
The National Hmong Grave Desecration Committee (NHGDC) remains as the
ACTIVE body to work to find a final solution to this tragedy in
THailand. Since 2001, NHGDC has been carried out fundraising to get
$200,000 as a capital in preparation to work with the Government of
Thailand. So far, the target is not yet me.
So please contribute any $ you can..talk to your Hmong business
friends to contribute - any amount is welcome.
As the work before us is urgent,NHGDC has asked the Hmong Advocacy
International Services (HAIS) to assist in their quest. As the
coordinator of HAIS-OZ, I believe that this one noble project as HAIS-
Thailand had been very active at the onset of this problem. At that
early stage, HAIS-Thailand, after compiling all the information and
consulting with our Hmong-Thai lawyers, a proposed legal action was
considered but due to the lack of funding, it was not possible to
launch that legal action.
But HAIS-Thailand and THai-Hmong Lawyer group remain ready to assist
any action that concern with Thailand.
HENCE, I like to see all the Hmong around the globe to get behind
NHGDC or to set up their own organization to work together with the
existing Hmong org esp NHGDC to solve this problem.
NHGDC and HAIS have been considering a United GLOBAL STRATEGY to be
mounted by all the Hmong from 4 corners of the globe at once -
coordinated - to solve this problem for once and for all.
Over the years, lots of works have been done by the NHGDC and other
organizations around the USA and they have been having dialogue with
the UN, Government of Thailand, US Embassy in Bangkok, the Chinese
Foundations concerned and the Thai local Governor to find a lasting
solution for this problem. Many proposals have been considered.
Hence I call upon every Hmong around the globe to come on board, by
providing ideas, time, energy and donation so we can mount a GLOBAL
ACTION from Hmong in every countries in the West to end this tragedy
of the Hmong in Thailand.
I count on ALL YOUR support in any shape or form.
I have attached a Youtube Video Documentary of the exhumation of
Hmong graves in Wat Tham Krabok. Please be advised of the strong
graphics
in this video and may not be suitable for everyone. Please contact
NDHDC
if any one of you need Brochure and DVDs of this video.
http://savetubevideo.com/?v=Z1fufl92z0A
Additional notes: Please refer to Dr Shoua YTahg & Diane Chnag Youtube
video for more update.
As for funding contribution, please contact Yang Fundraising
Committee
Chair, NHGDC:
shawnyang09 at gmail.com.
ADDITIONAL NOTE: We only need to contribute $10/.person. Or just $5/
person... IF worse to worse... Just give $1/person/year for the next ,
3, 4 or 5 years. Is that NOT IMPOSSIBLE??
Contact for HAIS-Oz:
Mr Moualy Mouanoutoua
moualeemouanoutoua at yahoo.com.au
du
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.hmong/msg/73e547008b6bbb56
DownUnder
More options Feb 27, 4:27 pm
It is all about Hmong!!
In my little book, "The Root & the Fruit - Hmong Identity", I have
outlined what consitutes part of being "Hmongness".
On addition, to our Hmong gene, speaking Hmong, Hmongness means that
we CARE about one another. This CARING covers THREE groups of people:
1. CARE for the LIVINGS: Yus tsev neeg, yus kwv-tij neejtsa thiab
txhua tus Hmoob. Thaum mub peb nyob ntuj qubqab, kuv tseem nco
ntsoov, kuv thaug kev pog tim Hoeueikhininh (near Muag Souei) tuaj mus
rau Phakhao. Tuaj dhau Ban Na xwb ces tsaus ntuj lawm. Kuv thiaj kuv
tijlaug ub tab tom tuaj txog ib lub zov Hmoob. Ib tsev Hmoob cia li
kom ub los pwb hauv lawv tsev tso vim tsaus ntuj lawm. Lawv muaj mov
rau ub noj tag, pua chaw rau wb pw. Sawv los, tseem ua tshais rau wb
noj, ntim wb ib pob su thiab wb mam sawv kev tuaj Phakhao. This is
WHAT is what I mean BEING HMONGNESS is all about.
2. CARE for the DEADS: Yus yug los ua ib tug Hmoob, yuv yuav tau CARE
rau yus tej members uas tau tag ib sim neej lawm. Tsis yog tias tuag
lawv ces yuav tso po-tseg...NO..NO... Yus ib tus neeg tuag lawm, yus
yuav tau ua lub nteev kom phim nws, xav nws mus kom txog pojyawg tswv-
txoob (Cov Xtian ces yuav tsum xav mus kom txog Vajtswv). Tsis tag li
no xwb, yus yuav tau nrhia ib thaj chaw kom zoo rau tus tuag, saib
memtoj kom muaj nqi zoo rau cov tub, cov ntxhais nyob tom qab. Yog
lub ntxa pua me-ntsi xwb, yus yuav tau ua neeb mus kho ntxa - ib thaj
neeb yuav siv ib tug Npua loj, ib thaj neeb yuav tau ntiav tus txiv
neeb txog li 12 hla nyiaj mas luag thiaj kam ua. Vim kev ua neeb mus
kho ntxa no mas tseem ceeb heev rau tus tuag thiab rau cov tseem muaj
siav nyob. Tus Txiv Neeb yuav tau mus haiv ib ncig nws tej vajtsev,
mus Xab nws vaj nws tseb thiab mus kho memtoj thoob pawg, mus tsa nws
rooj noj rooj haus , rooj nom rooj tswv ect... so it is a complex
issue.. but all this has to be done BEFORE any thing can be done to
that grave.
FURTHJERMORE, thaum tus tuag lub cev tseem nyob, nws ib cov ntsuj-plig
tseem nrog tus tuag nyob kom txog hnub uas nws lub cev lwb tag, ua av
thag du lub lawm, tsis tshuav dabtsis li lawm, tej ntsuj plig mam li
mus thawj-thiab tau. Lino, thaum Thaib muab Hmoob cov ntxa khawb, nws
ua rau tej ntsuj-plig tsisi mauj chaw nyob, tsis muaj vaj tsis muaj
tsev, tej n tsuj-plig qhuab tag hnub tag hmo, yuav nyob los tsis muaj
chaw, yuav mus los tsis tau txog caij vim tus khauj-khaum tus tuag
tseem nyob ntawd,,, ua rau tej ntsuj-plig qhuab nyuav, ts=ag hnub tas
hmoo... yuav ua kev looj-koov t=rau tej mentub menyaum, xeeb-leej xeeb-
ntswv mus ntau tiam..
Liino, thaum Thaib mus muab Hmoob cov ntxa tim Thaiteb khawb mas yog
ib
qhov UA TXHAWM (VIOLATION) loj tshaj npaws nyob hauv ib tug Hmoob lub
neej.
This is the GREATEST Violation of of our Hmong way of life of caring
for
our loved ones. Nothing can be more gross, more grave than disturbing
our loved ones graves.
IF this happen when we were still living in Laos, Hmoob yeej yuav ua
plaub thoob tebchaws. So, let it be UNDERSTOOD the GROSS violation
that were happening to the hmong by digging our loved ones's graves in
Thailand!!!
3. CARE for the NOT YET TO BE BORN... This is also related to the
burial sites of our loved one. Leej twg los yeej mus nria kom tau
qhov mejtoj zoo rau yus cov me tub me nyuam - ob tug tib sis. This is
also a matter of great importance. As I have mentioned once before,
thaum ub, peb muab peb yawg Xaivkaub cov mu tso qhov chaw zoo kawg
tabsis ho tso rau pem toj Lauj Khiabtoom lub ntxa lawm. Lauj Kiabtoom
tsev neeg tseem tsis zoo siab, ua plaub nrog peb tsev neeg tib si.
This is all about doing the best, caring for those yet to be born, as
part of the Hmong believe & practice over the past 5000 years.
In CONCLUSION, the grave desecration in Thailand is one of the
GREATEST violation of the Hmong way of life and those actions cannot
be left unresolved. Even those, it had happened in 2005 but progress
has been steadily moving ahead toward a satisfactory solution. The
first phase has been completed - that the Thai government has given
the undertaking that NO Hmong graves in THailand will be disturbed in
the future.
Now.. we are seeking the SOLUTION - for the two Thai Foundations to
re-
burial of all the remains in accordance with the Hmong religious
practices.
Now as we are moving to the final phase, I call upon all the Hmong
around the globe to combine force to mount a GLOBAL action to settle
this GREATEST violation for once and for all.
This is for ALL the Hmong.
Final NOTE:
NB: Tej haujlwm no tsis yog kev yuav ua kom tau ntse tau muag, tau
phlu lis tej tus SCH tau haus tawm hauv no.
This is a HMONG CAUSE that need to be solved once and for all.
The ONLY difficulty that I envisage is that (1) there are many groups
of Hmong who have worked very hard on their own, based on their own
PLAN of ACTIONS.
(2) So far, there has NOT been a ONE VISION - lub Homphiab for all
Hmong to work toward. THIS MUST BE our TOP PRIORITY NOW to formulate
ONE GLOBAL VISION only.
(3) The Hmong in each countries are working on their own plan - there
is NO COORDINATION from all the Hmong in different countries,
(4) LAST and MOST IMPORTANT.... we NEED to have ONE GLOBAL
ORGANISATION ONLY... and
(5)we must STOP using the word HMONG only
because we do not have a country, we are only a group of people who
are CITIZEN of many countries around the globe. So STOP using the word
HMONG only... WE MUST change our paradigm - take on a NEW approach,
using our GREATEST resource that is there for our disposal to use!!!.
( 6)^) WE must START using the wording such as - HMONG_AMERICAN
Orgnaisation, Hmong-OZ Organisation, Hmong-France org, Hmong-Canadian
Org ect...
(7) We must use our RIGHT as CITIZEN of our adopted countries, using
our respective government as our platform, use our Gov resource for
our cause.. use our Tax money to carry our causes..
Once we have this shift or paradigm, then only then, we will have a
platform to stand on, we will have the plentiful resource to draw
on... and we will call upon our elected government to be our
VOICE...this is the time that we are EXERCISING our RIGHT as citizen
of our respective countries...
REMEMBER... we are NO LONGER just a group of hill billy Hmong - not
any more... we are NOW CITIZEN of some of the most powerful countries
on this earth...SO.. it is TIME to FLEX our muscles and STAND UP, be
HEARD and be NOTICED and let the world know that the Hmong of the 1st
century can NOT be bully as it was in the past.
I am ready to stand up... play my part as I can, with what I have, as
an Oz Hmong.
So.. what about YOU?? Plese send in all your positive comment.
We need to be part of he SOLUTION... NOT part of the problem!
DR Pao Saykao
Executive member
HAIS - OZ
SCH:
The National Hmong Grave Desecration Committee (NHGDC) remains as the
ACTIVE body to work to find a final solution to this tragedy in
THailand. Since 2001, NHGDC has been carried out fundraising to get
$200,000 as a capital in preparation to work with the Government of
Thailand. So far, the target is not yet me.
So please contribute any $ you can..talk to your Hmong business
friends to contribute - any amount is welcome.
As the work before us is urgent,NHGDC has asked the Hmong Advocacy
International Services (HAIS) to assist in their quest. As the
coordinator of HAIS-OZ, I believe that this one noble project as HAIS-
Thailand had been very active at the onset of this problem. At that
early stage, HAIS-Thailand, after compiling all the information and
consulting with our Hmong-Thai lawyers, a proposed legal action was
considered but due to the lack of funding, it was not possible to
launch that legal action.
But HAIS-Thailand and THai-Hmong Lawyer group remain ready to assist
any action that concern with Thailand.
HENCE, I like to see all the Hmong around the globe to get behind
NHGDC or to set up their own organization to work together with the
existing Hmong org esp NHGDC to solve this problem.
NHGDC and HAIS have been considering a United GLOBAL STRATEGY to be
mounted by all the Hmong from 4 corners of the globe at once -
coordinated - to solve this problem for once and for all.
Over the years, lots of works have been done by the NHGDC and other
organizations around the USA and they have been having dialogue with
the UN, Government of Thailand, US Embassy in Bangkok, the Chinese
Foundations concerned and the Thai local Governor to find a lasting
solution for this problem. Many proposals have been considered.
Hence I call upon every Hmong around the globe to come on board, by
providing ideas, time, energy and donation so we can mount a GLOBAL
ACTION from Hmong in every countries in the West to end this tragedy
of the Hmong in Thailand.
I count on ALL YOUR support in any shape or form.
I have attached a Youtube Video Documentary of the exhumation of
Hmong graves in Wat Tham Krabok. Please be advised of the strong
graphics
in this video and may not be suitable for everyone. Please contact
NDHDC
if any one of you need Brochure and DVDs of this video.
http://savetubevideo.com/?v=Z1fufl92z0A
Additional notes: Please refer to Dr Shoua YTahg & Diane Chnag Youtube
video for more update.
As for funding contribution, please contact Yang Fundraising
Committee
Chair, NHGDC:
shawnyang09 at gmail.com.
ADDITIONAL NOTE: We only need to contribute $10/.person. Or just $5/
person... IF worse to worse... Just give $1/person/year for the next ,
3, 4 or 5 years. Is that NOT IMPOSSIBLE??
Contact for HAIS-Oz:
Mr Moualy Mouanoutoua
moualeemouanoutoua at yahoo.com.au
du
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.hmong/msg/73e547008b6bbb56
DownUnder
More options Feb 27, 4:27 pm
It is all about Hmong!!
In my little book, "The Root & the Fruit - Hmong Identity", I have
outlined what consitutes part of being "Hmongness".
On addition, to our Hmong gene, speaking Hmong, Hmongness means that
we CARE about one another. This CARING covers THREE groups of people:
1. CARE for the LIVINGS: Yus tsev neeg, yus kwv-tij neejtsa thiab
txhua tus Hmoob. Thaum mub peb nyob ntuj qubqab, kuv tseem nco
ntsoov, kuv thaug kev pog tim Hoeueikhininh (near Muag Souei) tuaj mus
rau Phakhao. Tuaj dhau Ban Na xwb ces tsaus ntuj lawm. Kuv thiaj kuv
tijlaug ub tab tom tuaj txog ib lub zov Hmoob. Ib tsev Hmoob cia li
kom ub los pwb hauv lawv tsev tso vim tsaus ntuj lawm. Lawv muaj mov
rau ub noj tag, pua chaw rau wb pw. Sawv los, tseem ua tshais rau wb
noj, ntim wb ib pob su thiab wb mam sawv kev tuaj Phakhao. This is
WHAT is what I mean BEING HMONGNESS is all about.
2. CARE for the DEADS: Yus yug los ua ib tug Hmoob, yuv yuav tau CARE
rau yus tej members uas tau tag ib sim neej lawm. Tsis yog tias tuag
lawv ces yuav tso po-tseg...NO..NO... Yus ib tus neeg tuag lawm, yus
yuav tau ua lub nteev kom phim nws, xav nws mus kom txog pojyawg tswv-
txoob (Cov Xtian ces yuav tsum xav mus kom txog Vajtswv). Tsis tag li
no xwb, yus yuav tau nrhia ib thaj chaw kom zoo rau tus tuag, saib
memtoj kom muaj nqi zoo rau cov tub, cov ntxhais nyob tom qab. Yog
lub ntxa pua me-ntsi xwb, yus yuav tau ua neeb mus kho ntxa - ib thaj
neeb yuav siv ib tug Npua loj, ib thaj neeb yuav tau ntiav tus txiv
neeb txog li 12 hla nyiaj mas luag thiaj kam ua. Vim kev ua neeb mus
kho ntxa no mas tseem ceeb heev rau tus tuag thiab rau cov tseem muaj
siav nyob. Tus Txiv Neeb yuav tau mus haiv ib ncig nws tej vajtsev,
mus Xab nws vaj nws tseb thiab mus kho memtoj thoob pawg, mus tsa nws
rooj noj rooj haus , rooj nom rooj tswv ect... so it is a complex
issue.. but all this has to be done BEFORE any thing can be done to
that grave.
FURTHJERMORE, thaum tus tuag lub cev tseem nyob, nws ib cov ntsuj-plig
tseem nrog tus tuag nyob kom txog hnub uas nws lub cev lwb tag, ua av
thag du lub lawm, tsis tshuav dabtsis li lawm, tej ntsuj plig mam li
mus thawj-thiab tau. Lino, thaum Thaib muab Hmoob cov ntxa khawb, nws
ua rau tej ntsuj-plig tsisi mauj chaw nyob, tsis muaj vaj tsis muaj
tsev, tej n tsuj-plig qhuab tag hnub tag hmo, yuav nyob los tsis muaj
chaw, yuav mus los tsis tau txog caij vim tus khauj-khaum tus tuag
tseem nyob ntawd,,, ua rau tej ntsuj-plig qhuab nyuav, ts=ag hnub tas
hmoo... yuav ua kev looj-koov t=rau tej mentub menyaum, xeeb-leej xeeb-
ntswv mus ntau tiam..
Liino, thaum Thaib mus muab Hmoob cov ntxa tim Thaiteb khawb mas yog
ib
qhov UA TXHAWM (VIOLATION) loj tshaj npaws nyob hauv ib tug Hmoob lub
neej.
This is the GREATEST Violation of of our Hmong way of life of caring
for
our loved ones. Nothing can be more gross, more grave than disturbing
our loved ones graves.
IF this happen when we were still living in Laos, Hmoob yeej yuav ua
plaub thoob tebchaws. So, let it be UNDERSTOOD the GROSS violation
that were happening to the hmong by digging our loved ones's graves in
Thailand!!!
3. CARE for the NOT YET TO BE BORN... This is also related to the
burial sites of our loved one. Leej twg los yeej mus nria kom tau
qhov mejtoj zoo rau yus cov me tub me nyuam - ob tug tib sis. This is
also a matter of great importance. As I have mentioned once before,
thaum ub, peb muab peb yawg Xaivkaub cov mu tso qhov chaw zoo kawg
tabsis ho tso rau pem toj Lauj Khiabtoom lub ntxa lawm. Lauj Kiabtoom
tsev neeg tseem tsis zoo siab, ua plaub nrog peb tsev neeg tib si.
This is all about doing the best, caring for those yet to be born, as
part of the Hmong believe & practice over the past 5000 years.
In CONCLUSION, the grave desecration in Thailand is one of the
GREATEST violation of the Hmong way of life and those actions cannot
be left unresolved. Even those, it had happened in 2005 but progress
has been steadily moving ahead toward a satisfactory solution. The
first phase has been completed - that the Thai government has given
the undertaking that NO Hmong graves in THailand will be disturbed in
the future.
Now.. we are seeking the SOLUTION - for the two Thai Foundations to
re-
burial of all the remains in accordance with the Hmong religious
practices.
Now as we are moving to the final phase, I call upon all the Hmong
around the globe to combine force to mount a GLOBAL action to settle
this GREATEST violation for once and for all.
This is for ALL the Hmong.
Final NOTE:
NB: Tej haujlwm no tsis yog kev yuav ua kom tau ntse tau muag, tau
phlu lis tej tus SCH tau haus tawm hauv no.
This is a HMONG CAUSE that need to be solved once and for all.
The ONLY difficulty that I envisage is that (1) there are many groups
of Hmong who have worked very hard on their own, based on their own
PLAN of ACTIONS.
(2) So far, there has NOT been a ONE VISION - lub Homphiab for all
Hmong to work toward. THIS MUST BE our TOP PRIORITY NOW to formulate
ONE GLOBAL VISION only.
(3) The Hmong in each countries are working on their own plan - there
is NO COORDINATION from all the Hmong in different countries,
(4) LAST and MOST IMPORTANT.... we NEED to have ONE GLOBAL
ORGANISATION ONLY... and
(5)we must STOP using the word HMONG only
because we do not have a country, we are only a group of people who
are CITIZEN of many countries around the globe. So STOP using the word
HMONG only... WE MUST change our paradigm - take on a NEW approach,
using our GREATEST resource that is there for our disposal to use!!!.
( 6)^) WE must START using the wording such as - HMONG_AMERICAN
Orgnaisation, Hmong-OZ Organisation, Hmong-France org, Hmong-Canadian
Org ect...
(7) We must use our RIGHT as CITIZEN of our adopted countries, using
our respective government as our platform, use our Gov resource for
our cause.. use our Tax money to carry our causes..
Once we have this shift or paradigm, then only then, we will have a
platform to stand on, we will have the plentiful resource to draw
on... and we will call upon our elected government to be our
VOICE...this is the time that we are EXERCISING our RIGHT as citizen
of our respective countries...
REMEMBER... we are NO LONGER just a group of hill billy Hmong - not
any more... we are NOW CITIZEN of some of the most powerful countries
on this earth...SO.. it is TIME to FLEX our muscles and STAND UP, be
HEARD and be NOTICED and let the world know that the Hmong of the 1st
century can NOT be bully as it was in the past.
I am ready to stand up... play my part as I can, with what I have, as
an Oz Hmong.
So.. what about YOU?? Plese send in all your positive comment.
We need to be part of he SOLUTION... NOT part of the problem!
DR Pao Saykao
Executive member
HAIS - OZ
TseemYeej
May 17, 2012, 4:35:37 PM5/17/12
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My ol flien doctawm pov,
On May 17, 12:44 pm, DownUnder <drpaosay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am ready to stand up... play my part as I can, with what I have, as
> an Oz Hmong.
> So.. what about YOU?? Plese send in all your positive comment.
> We need to be part of he SOLUTION... NOT part of the problem!
> DR Pao Saykao
> Executive member
> HAIS - OZ
Regardless you are ready or not, just don't switch the original topic
into your own. You have been stealing someone else show for too many
times.
I'm sick of that kind of behaviors!
Yor ol flien TseemYeej.
On May 17, 12:44 pm, DownUnder <drpaosay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am ready to stand up... play my part as I can, with what I have, as
> an Oz Hmong.
> So.. what about YOU?? Plese send in all your positive comment.
> We need to be part of he SOLUTION... NOT part of the problem!
> DR Pao Saykao
> Executive member
> HAIS - OZ
into your own. You have been stealing someone else show for too many
times.
I'm sick of that kind of behaviors!
Yor ol flien TseemYeej.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
May 17, 2012, 5:18:54 PM5/17/12
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Noob nom aw!! tsi txhob lam xav xav tsej nkhuj nkhoob hais luag tej li
ko os, kuv tsi tau thuam lawv ib qho qhov twg uas lawv hais ua yog
lawm es kuv hais lawv nawb, tej uas kuv hais lawv twb yog lawv cov
txawj cov ntse uas twb tau ua yav tag dhau los thiab cov uas tseem tab
tom ua mus ntawd, tab txawm leej twg mus hais los tsuas mus hais tib
qhov qub num li tus uas xub xub mus hais qog qhia ua ntej lawm thiab
xwb no ne. 9 pab 10 pab los mus hais tib qhov num xwb no ces thiaj
hais lawv, tej li lawv ua no puas tau yog ib txoj hauv kev zoo haum
raug raws li koj siab lawm los puas yog. Tsuas pom Hmoob es thiaj ua 9
pab 10 pab los puav leej mus sib txeeb hais tib qhov dej num tas li
ntawd, yog ua no luag neeg UN tseem mloog thiab mas ntshe tsi tag tuaj
mus muag khoom hauv khw los yeej tau nyiaj noj lawm os.
Kuv tsuas hais tias cov txawj txawj ntse ntse uas yuav ntau thawj rau
peb Hmoob ntawd, yuav tau los sib koom ua ib ke ua tib pab kom muaj ib
lub zog loj mus hais thiaj sawv taus, thiab thiaj muaj phaj tshab
txaus rau tus yuav mus ntauj kev, hais li no los tseem yog thuam lawv
thiab raug rau koj tus ua nyuag yau lawm ntag.
Mee Moas, Siab Lauj mus hais tib qhov plaub khawb ntxa ua ke rau tim
thaib teb, tej no puas tsim nyog ua li ntawd thiab? Seng Xiong twb
muab sau ua ib txoj cai hais txog Thaib khawb Hmoob ntxa coj mus txog
rau UN lawm, tus muam Diane Chang lawv los tseem ua mus tib qhov num
rau tim UN thiab, Dr. Shoua Yang los kuj piav txog tias qhov thaib
khawb Hmoob ntxa zaum no yog Thaib yuam txoj cai hauv neeg ntiaj teb
lawm thiab. Yog li tag nrho cov muaj npe saum lawv puav leej mus hais
tib txoj cai uas Thaib khawb Hmoob ntxa thiab xwb no koj tus ua nyuag
yau xav ne puas tsim nyog cia nyias mus hais nyias zaj tswv yim li
ntawd rau luag no zoo dua lov, los koj tus ua nyuag yau xav tias yuav
tsum yog sawv daws los sib koom ua ke ua ib pab mus hais mas luag
thiaj ntseeg peb Hmoob no los li cas? Koj twb hnov tus muam Hmoob Tsab
hais tias UN yuav kom lawv los hais Hmoob kom Hmoob kos tau 70 txhiab
lub npe mus rau UN no, qhov no twb yog UN xav paub saib Hmoob puas tau
sib koom siab ua ib ke lawm los tsi tau xwb.
Koj ua nyuag yau kuj soj ntsuam saib peb cov Hmoob txoj kev ua dej num
rau Hmoob txhua fab xws li Kas Moos ua teb chaws los muaj 10 tawm pab
mus hais tib lub hom phiaj, tib txoj ncauj ke, tsuas yog nyias ua
nyias ib pab kheej mus hais xwb, ua li ntawd yog zoo lawm los tsi
zoo , hais txog kev mus hais toj ntxha raug thaib khawb los muaj txog
5 pab mus hais thiab, kuj zoo sib xws nkaus li cov ua kas moos, sawv
daws ua ntau pab mus hais tib qhov kev khawb toj ntxas li ntawd, koj
xav ne yuav yog ua li sawv daws ua los no thiaj yuav tau noj los li
cas, los yog yuav cia kav liam tsi tas ua li, los yog yuav cia nyias
ua nyias li ntawd kom ib leeg ho tau me ntsis nyiaj siv.
Kev hais lus yog tsi sau ntau es yuav cas hais tas tej lus phem thiab
zoo rau hauv, koj twb yog neeg txawj ntawv koj kuj xyuas luag tej phau
ntawv seb tuab npaum cas thiaj hais tas luag tej lus rau hauv phau
ntawv.
YTK
Born2beMhong
May 17, 2012, 5:17:34 PM5/17/12
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Unko Tseemyeej aws,
tej yam nuav miv miv xwb os--yog tsi muaj cov neeg hais ncaj ncaj li
Born no ces leej twg los pheej khav thiab hais tau ntau ntau thiab
xwb. yuav tsum muaj cov neeg ua tham lus tu nrhawv nrho li
Born2beHmong no kiag thiab. li ntawd, cov neeg ua nyiam nyiam tham
lus no thiaj li tau ceev nws thooj me faj thiab yuav hais dabtsi los
thiaj li coj TSWB rawv nrog nws mas lod.
Yog koj tsi cias cov ua hais tau thiab ncaj nraim thaum peb tuaj tham
li hauv tej Forum li no thiab tej Meeting ces cov neeg khavtheeb thiab
hais lus ntau ntau ntawd lawv nyiam nyiam tham lus kawg kiag
ned....koj puas paub, koj me tub Born mas nws mus zaum lub rooj
Meeting twg lawm ces cov neeg tham lus ntau ntau li no--lawv yeej tsi
kab hais ib los lus li ntag nawb. vim leej twg hais ntau, ces nws DOV
CAV kiag li nws rov rov rau tej nyuag Forum li no ces ua nws tws lus
nrho xwb ces leej twg los tuaj ces yeej hais qhov yog yog thiab zoo
zoo xwb....yog Born zaum hauv tej Meeting lawm ntag ces yeej tsi muaj
leej twg lam tham lus ntau ntau thiab tsheej pab tsheej pheev li ntag
nawb...hahahhahaa LOLz!
Kwvtijhmoob,
yog li tijlaug Phwvnyawm hais lawm nawb, tsi yog Zhen hos yog Hnubkaj
nawb...vim Hnubkaj lawv yog me nyuam ntxhais NOM ces thaum Born yuav
kom khiav LIAB QAB ncig July 4th, ces Hnubkaj cias li chim kiag thiab
npau kiag khiav lawm tus yees tiag ned. haahahahaha LOLz...hos peb
cov me nyuam neeg no xwb ces txawm khiav puas tsawg zaus los peb tsi
nrov npe qhov twg tuaj li nawb, Npawg Kwvtijhmoob....LOLz!
hos hais txog qhov koj yuav caw kuv me kwv Nomleej thiab unko Nomkhue
nkawv tuaj mas--tsam tsi phim kuv me tijlaug Phwvnyawm thiab lawv coob
tus ua yuav thaum sibtham li cov neeg nyob Lycee lawm ned. vim kuv
nyuag Unko Nomkhue thiab Nomleej no mas--luag npav lub Qaug nkaus
xwb. yog koj coj tuaj ces tag hauv ris li ntag hod...yeej tham tsi
tau dabtsi tseemceeb li ntag nawb....smiles and LOLz@Kwvtijhmoob.
Neegtojsiab aws,
koj ntshai tej no ua dabtsi naj....Kwvtijhmoob ces lam ua ncauj
puamsuavkhawv xwb...hahahhaaa LOLz! li tijlaug Phwvnyawm hais os, cov
neeg no mas ntshai yus tshaj ntshai dab lawm thiab--yeej tsi kam tawm
los sibfwm ntsej fwm muag li os nawb. kawg kuv twb mus lub funeral
home hmoob Vwj 2 zaug no--npaj siab qees yuav mus nrog Kwvtijhmoob
tham thiab haus ib me kho beer sibzeem no--nws twb tsi pom nws ntshiab
qhov twg. cov no mas lam hais li koj ua kwv xwb nawb....LOLz! yeej
tsi lam kam tawm kiag li tijlaug Yingb thiab tijlaug Phwvnyawm peb li
nawb....LOLz!
kuv mas, txiv ntxawm Sayassith (Choj), Dr Gary Yia, Txiabneeg,
YuePheng thiab coob tus no mas kuv tus Born no mus Tuav kiag Tes thiab
qhia kiag tias...tus ua cem cem nej thiab nthe nthe nej ces yog kuv
ntag nawb...no ntag hov.....hahhahahaa LOLz!
yog zaum tag no, kuv nqi mus Sactown ces kuv twb mus Noj Fawm nrog kuv
me Unko Tseemyeej lawm nawb...hahahaha LOLz!
Born2beHmong
tej yam nuav miv miv xwb os--yog tsi muaj cov neeg hais ncaj ncaj li
Born no ces leej twg los pheej khav thiab hais tau ntau ntau thiab
xwb. yuav tsum muaj cov neeg ua tham lus tu nrhawv nrho li
Born2beHmong no kiag thiab. li ntawd, cov neeg ua nyiam nyiam tham
lus no thiaj li tau ceev nws thooj me faj thiab yuav hais dabtsi los
thiaj li coj TSWB rawv nrog nws mas lod.
Yog koj tsi cias cov ua hais tau thiab ncaj nraim thaum peb tuaj tham
li hauv tej Forum li no thiab tej Meeting ces cov neeg khavtheeb thiab
hais lus ntau ntau ntawd lawv nyiam nyiam tham lus kawg kiag
ned....koj puas paub, koj me tub Born mas nws mus zaum lub rooj
Meeting twg lawm ces cov neeg tham lus ntau ntau li no--lawv yeej tsi
kab hais ib los lus li ntag nawb. vim leej twg hais ntau, ces nws DOV
CAV kiag li nws rov rov rau tej nyuag Forum li no ces ua nws tws lus
nrho xwb ces leej twg los tuaj ces yeej hais qhov yog yog thiab zoo
zoo xwb....yog Born zaum hauv tej Meeting lawm ntag ces yeej tsi muaj
leej twg lam tham lus ntau ntau thiab tsheej pab tsheej pheev li ntag
nawb...hahahhahaa LOLz!
Kwvtijhmoob,
yog li tijlaug Phwvnyawm hais lawm nawb, tsi yog Zhen hos yog Hnubkaj
nawb...vim Hnubkaj lawv yog me nyuam ntxhais NOM ces thaum Born yuav
kom khiav LIAB QAB ncig July 4th, ces Hnubkaj cias li chim kiag thiab
npau kiag khiav lawm tus yees tiag ned. haahahahaha LOLz...hos peb
cov me nyuam neeg no xwb ces txawm khiav puas tsawg zaus los peb tsi
nrov npe qhov twg tuaj li nawb, Npawg Kwvtijhmoob....LOLz!
hos hais txog qhov koj yuav caw kuv me kwv Nomleej thiab unko Nomkhue
nkawv tuaj mas--tsam tsi phim kuv me tijlaug Phwvnyawm thiab lawv coob
tus ua yuav thaum sibtham li cov neeg nyob Lycee lawm ned. vim kuv
nyuag Unko Nomkhue thiab Nomleej no mas--luag npav lub Qaug nkaus
xwb. yog koj coj tuaj ces tag hauv ris li ntag hod...yeej tham tsi
tau dabtsi tseemceeb li ntag nawb....smiles and LOLz@Kwvtijhmoob.
Neegtojsiab aws,
koj ntshai tej no ua dabtsi naj....Kwvtijhmoob ces lam ua ncauj
puamsuavkhawv xwb...hahahhaaa LOLz! li tijlaug Phwvnyawm hais os, cov
neeg no mas ntshai yus tshaj ntshai dab lawm thiab--yeej tsi kam tawm
los sibfwm ntsej fwm muag li os nawb. kawg kuv twb mus lub funeral
home hmoob Vwj 2 zaug no--npaj siab qees yuav mus nrog Kwvtijhmoob
tham thiab haus ib me kho beer sibzeem no--nws twb tsi pom nws ntshiab
qhov twg. cov no mas lam hais li koj ua kwv xwb nawb....LOLz! yeej
tsi lam kam tawm kiag li tijlaug Yingb thiab tijlaug Phwvnyawm peb li
nawb....LOLz!
kuv mas, txiv ntxawm Sayassith (Choj), Dr Gary Yia, Txiabneeg,
YuePheng thiab coob tus no mas kuv tus Born no mus Tuav kiag Tes thiab
qhia kiag tias...tus ua cem cem nej thiab nthe nthe nej ces yog kuv
ntag nawb...no ntag hov.....hahhahahaa LOLz!
yog zaum tag no, kuv nqi mus Sactown ces kuv twb mus Noj Fawm nrog kuv
me Unko Tseemyeej lawm nawb...hahahaha LOLz!
Born2beHmong
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 17, 2012, 5:56:13 PM5/17/12
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--idnk
DownUnder
May 17, 2012, 9:43:47 PM5/17/12
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My ol flien...et. al...
Just for your information, when this issue started, I was among the
the first person (Mon, 7 Nov 2005 ) to organise a group (our Thai
chapter of HAIS) to investigate as the digging was happening. After
our investigation, our Thai team, include a Hmong Thai lawyer, made
the recommendation to the US-based group (on Friday, 11 November 2005
23:08) to take what we considered to be the most EFFECTIVE action to
STOP the digging. But our recommendation was NOT taken... so the
digging continued - as we know that it is now history.
Recently, I was asked to come on board as an Advisor to the National
Hmong Grave Desecration (NHGD) since I was some of the few first
people involved at the beginning, so I accepted the invitation - and I
am trying to assist as I can by connecting NHGD to our Thai Hmong
group, including a Hmong Lawyer in Thailand who is willing to assist
NHGD in Thailand.
As it stands now, things are going according to plan BUT we need
funding and petition as Diane Chang has said. All are going well BUT
if thing goes off tract, for any reason, NHGD has no choice but to
take some drastic move.
Many scenarios have been discussed but when the time comes, NHGD will
have no choice but takes the NEXT best move for the Hmong globally....
and I would ask that if that drastic ACTION has to happen, I love all
Hmong to stick together - for the betterment of all the Hmong
globally.
du.
Just for your information, when this issue started, I was among the
the first person (Mon, 7 Nov 2005 ) to organise a group (our Thai
chapter of HAIS) to investigate as the digging was happening. After
our investigation, our Thai team, include a Hmong Thai lawyer, made
the recommendation to the US-based group (on Friday, 11 November 2005
23:08) to take what we considered to be the most EFFECTIVE action to
STOP the digging. But our recommendation was NOT taken... so the
digging continued - as we know that it is now history.
Recently, I was asked to come on board as an Advisor to the National
Hmong Grave Desecration (NHGD) since I was some of the few first
people involved at the beginning, so I accepted the invitation - and I
am trying to assist as I can by connecting NHGD to our Thai Hmong
group, including a Hmong Lawyer in Thailand who is willing to assist
NHGD in Thailand.
As it stands now, things are going according to plan BUT we need
funding and petition as Diane Chang has said. All are going well BUT
if thing goes off tract, for any reason, NHGD has no choice but to
take some drastic move.
Many scenarios have been discussed but when the time comes, NHGD will
have no choice but takes the NEXT best move for the Hmong globally....
and I would ask that if that drastic ACTION has to happen, I love all
Hmong to stick together - for the betterment of all the Hmong
globally.
du.
TseemYeej
May 17, 2012, 10:47:44 PM5/17/12
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My ol flien doctawm pov,
On May 17, 6:43 pm, DownUnder <drpaosay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just for your information, when this issue started, I was among the
Me not asking for yor information, me telling you to stop stealing
> Just for your information, when this issue started, I was among the
someone else topic. That's all me have said! Me using e-z language not
too hard for a doctor to understand.
Yor ol flien TseemYeej.
Born2beMhong
May 18, 2012, 10:13:21 AM5/18/12
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Dr Pao oz,
koj yog ib tug Board nyob hauv lawm thiab--kuv xav kom txhob tham lus
ntau ntau es koj piav kiag nej qhov strategies ua yuav ua ntxiv no
thiab nej cov steps tom ntej no kiag xwb. piav very simple and define
rau peb mloog xwb. dhau kiag qhov no, peb thiaj li paub yuav pab
tswv8 thiab tswv9 thiab nyiaj txiag.
yog tham lus ua phab ua pheev li no xwb...ces zoo li tej lau thaum ub
tham xwb....thaum kawg, peb yuav plam tagnrho ib puas yam tsav duas
xwb.
thanks in advance,
Born2beHmong
koj yog ib tug Board nyob hauv lawm thiab--kuv xav kom txhob tham lus
ntau ntau es koj piav kiag nej qhov strategies ua yuav ua ntxiv no
thiab nej cov steps tom ntej no kiag xwb. piav very simple and define
rau peb mloog xwb. dhau kiag qhov no, peb thiaj li paub yuav pab
tswv8 thiab tswv9 thiab nyiaj txiag.
yog tham lus ua phab ua pheev li no xwb...ces zoo li tej lau thaum ub
tham xwb....thaum kawg, peb yuav plam tagnrho ib puas yam tsav duas
xwb.
thanks in advance,
Born2beHmong
kwvtijhmoob
May 18, 2012, 10:41:58 AM5/18/12
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On May 18, 9:13 am, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
born-- diane chang twb hais meej lawm. yog koj xav paub lawv cov
strategies ces mus mloog diane cov lus nram qab no xwb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1ulGI2IkM&feature=relmfu
born-- diane chang twb hais meej lawm. yog koj xav paub lawv cov
strategies ces mus mloog diane cov lus nram qab no xwb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu1ulGI2IkM&feature=relmfu
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 18, 2012, 1:00:53 PM5/18/12
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TseemYeej
May 18, 2012, 12:35:43 PM5/18/12
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Yawg hlob YTK,
On May 17, 2:18 pm, Yaj Tshaj Koob <mutant_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Noob nom aw!! tsi txhob lam xav xav tsej nkhuj nkhoob hais luag tej li
Hahaha...Ib tug neeg muaj kev npau suav loj npaum ko, xav pheej kom
Hmoob muaj HAIV es ua cas yuav tais caus ua luaj ko naj? Yog xav ua
tus thawj mas hais lo twg yog lo ntawd mas thiaj li paub. Yog hu luag
ua Noob NOM mas muab kom taus nyiaj hnub nyiaj hli rau luag noj ntag.
Hos ho xav hu luag ua Noob DEV no mas yus txawm yuam kom tau luag
"tsej nkhuj nkhoob" ntag no mas yus thiaj yuav pheej taus HAIV nawb.
> ............. 9 pab 10 pab los mus hais tib qhov num xwb no ces thiaj
Yawg hlob awd...Ib rab qeej yeej yuav tsum muaj ntau ntiv thiaj nrov
zoo mloog las sav. Txawm yuav mus 9 pab 10 pawg los tsuav mus ua Hmoob
lub luag hauj lwm xwb ces zoo-oo kawg lawm las mas. Koj sim ua twb zoo
xav saib maj, thaum ub yawg hlob vp nej mus ntau ThoobHaimHim ne, nej
tog phaj2 mas sau nthwv qas Hmoob, qas Nplog Qabteb, qas Thaib
Dubncaug tuaj tsheej tiaj. Hos tog AibNoob ces hmo ntuj mam tso 2-3
tug nyuag tuaj tsuj kev mus-s los-s ua kev lwj ntsuav cuag cas. Nruab
hnub rov mus nkaum hauv qhov taub tag lawm, tos-s tsaus ntuj ntais mam
rov mus ua zaj qub dua. Kajntug taig kis, nej mus lajtabvees pom hneev
taw log laig cuag muaj Nyablaj tsheej koosphoo tuaj lawm, nej ib tug
hem ib tug ces cia li poob plig tag thiab xam kev khiav lawm xwb ne.
Lawv zov qoos-s, thaum phom nrov doog diaj ces ua nws Thaib, Nplog
Hmoob NabYub suaj kaum kiag. Tshuav nej cov Hmoob XeevKhuam rov los
yam xiam npiab tsawv xwb.
Kev siv TomTxwv no mas luag yeej siv tau noj los lawm tis kaus yaig
nawb, yog li no, yus los yuav tau thau yus tej TomTxwv los siv thiab
thiaj muaj yeej hov.
> Kev hais lus yog tsi sau ntau es yuav cas hais tas tej lus phem thiab
> zoo rau hauv, koj twb yog neeg txawj ntawv koj kuj xyuas luag tej phau
> ntawv seb tuab npaum cas thiaj hais tas luag tej lus rau hauv phau
Hahaha...Yawg hlob awd...nyuag yaus xav mas ntshe 1 txiaj kub yuav
muaj nqis dua 1choj nyiag no nav. Txawm sau ntawv tsheej phab tsheej
pheev los yuav yog sau muaj paus muaj ntsis thiaj siv tau nav.
Yawg hlob Born,
On May 17, 2:17 pm, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Unko Tseemyeej aws,
> tej yam nuav miv miv xwb os--yog tsi muaj cov neeg hais ncaj ncaj li
> Born no ces leej twg los pheej khav thiab hais tau ntau ntau thiab
> xwb. yuav tsum muaj cov neeg ua tham lus tu nrhawv nrho li
> Born2beHmong no kiag thiab. li ntawd, cov neeg ua nyiam nyiam tham
> lus no thiaj li tau ceev nws thooj me faj thiab yuav hais dabtsi los
> thiaj li coj TSWB rawv nrog nws mas lod.
Yog yus taw 1tug ntiv tes rau luag ces 3nti yeej taw rov rau yus thiab
ov. Nyuag yaus xav mas yog luag tej hais tsis haum yus siab, tsis tas
cav kom muaj yeej muaj swb, cia li xuas kab twj ywm rov los zov TV
hauv tsev xwb ntshe yuav zoo dua no. Nyuag yaus li mas, yav tag los,
tej thawj coj koom haum uas nej tham-m dhau los hauv SCH no, tsis hais
Hmong New Year, NHGDC, los tej 411 los sis UNPO etc.. yeej tuaj ntsib
nyuag yaus thiab mas. Tabsis, nyuag yaus li ces, txawm txaus siab
thiab tsis txaus los yeej tsis ua suab li. Yog leej twg ho tham ntev
zog tsis txawj mus los nyuag yaus tsuas cev ntsivquav rau kom qhua
tshwjxeeb ho zoo sawv kev mus no xwb. Poob tsawg zoo dua poob ntau
laiv.
Hais tsis yog lo twg thov zam txim rau nyuag yaus thiab.
Nyuag yaus TseemYeej.
On May 17, 2:18 pm, Yaj Tshaj Koob <mutant_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Noob nom aw!! tsi txhob lam xav xav tsej nkhuj nkhoob hais luag tej li
Hmoob muaj HAIV es ua cas yuav tais caus ua luaj ko naj? Yog xav ua
tus thawj mas hais lo twg yog lo ntawd mas thiaj li paub. Yog hu luag
ua Noob NOM mas muab kom taus nyiaj hnub nyiaj hli rau luag noj ntag.
Hos ho xav hu luag ua Noob DEV no mas yus txawm yuam kom tau luag
"tsej nkhuj nkhoob" ntag no mas yus thiaj yuav pheej taus HAIV nawb.
> ............. 9 pab 10 pab los mus hais tib qhov num xwb no ces thiaj
> hais lawv, tej li lawv ua no puas tau yog ib txoj hauv kev zoo haum
> raug raws li koj siab lawm los puas yog. ......................................
Yawg hlob awd...Ib rab qeej yeej yuav tsum muaj ntau ntiv thiaj nrov
zoo mloog las sav. Txawm yuav mus 9 pab 10 pawg los tsuav mus ua Hmoob
lub luag hauj lwm xwb ces zoo-oo kawg lawm las mas. Koj sim ua twb zoo
xav saib maj, thaum ub yawg hlob vp nej mus ntau ThoobHaimHim ne, nej
tog phaj2 mas sau nthwv qas Hmoob, qas Nplog Qabteb, qas Thaib
Dubncaug tuaj tsheej tiaj. Hos tog AibNoob ces hmo ntuj mam tso 2-3
tug nyuag tuaj tsuj kev mus-s los-s ua kev lwj ntsuav cuag cas. Nruab
hnub rov mus nkaum hauv qhov taub tag lawm, tos-s tsaus ntuj ntais mam
rov mus ua zaj qub dua. Kajntug taig kis, nej mus lajtabvees pom hneev
taw log laig cuag muaj Nyablaj tsheej koosphoo tuaj lawm, nej ib tug
hem ib tug ces cia li poob plig tag thiab xam kev khiav lawm xwb ne.
Lawv zov qoos-s, thaum phom nrov doog diaj ces ua nws Thaib, Nplog
Hmoob NabYub suaj kaum kiag. Tshuav nej cov Hmoob XeevKhuam rov los
yam xiam npiab tsawv xwb.
Kev siv TomTxwv no mas luag yeej siv tau noj los lawm tis kaus yaig
nawb, yog li no, yus los yuav tau thau yus tej TomTxwv los siv thiab
thiaj muaj yeej hov.
> Kev hais lus yog tsi sau ntau es yuav cas hais tas tej lus phem thiab
> zoo rau hauv, koj twb yog neeg txawj ntawv koj kuj xyuas luag tej phau
> ntawv seb tuab npaum cas thiaj hais tas luag tej lus rau hauv phau
muaj nqis dua 1choj nyiag no nav. Txawm sau ntawv tsheej phab tsheej
pheev los yuav yog sau muaj paus muaj ntsis thiaj siv tau nav.
Yawg hlob Born,
On May 17, 2:17 pm, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Unko Tseemyeej aws,
> tej yam nuav miv miv xwb os--yog tsi muaj cov neeg hais ncaj ncaj li
> Born no ces leej twg los pheej khav thiab hais tau ntau ntau thiab
> xwb. yuav tsum muaj cov neeg ua tham lus tu nrhawv nrho li
> Born2beHmong no kiag thiab. li ntawd, cov neeg ua nyiam nyiam tham
> lus no thiaj li tau ceev nws thooj me faj thiab yuav hais dabtsi los
> thiaj li coj TSWB rawv nrog nws mas lod.
ov. Nyuag yaus xav mas yog luag tej hais tsis haum yus siab, tsis tas
cav kom muaj yeej muaj swb, cia li xuas kab twj ywm rov los zov TV
hauv tsev xwb ntshe yuav zoo dua no. Nyuag yaus li mas, yav tag los,
tej thawj coj koom haum uas nej tham-m dhau los hauv SCH no, tsis hais
Hmong New Year, NHGDC, los tej 411 los sis UNPO etc.. yeej tuaj ntsib
nyuag yaus thiab mas. Tabsis, nyuag yaus li ces, txawm txaus siab
thiab tsis txaus los yeej tsis ua suab li. Yog leej twg ho tham ntev
zog tsis txawj mus los nyuag yaus tsuas cev ntsivquav rau kom qhua
tshwjxeeb ho zoo sawv kev mus no xwb. Poob tsawg zoo dua poob ntau
laiv.
Hais tsis yog lo twg thov zam txim rau nyuag yaus thiab.
Nyuag yaus TseemYeej.
Born2beMhong
May 18, 2012, 3:57:19 PM5/18/12
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yog hais li Diane Chang hais xwb ces kuv mus pw zoo zoo lawm xwb tiag
hod.
vim tias, yus tej pobtxhas xwb los yus tseem yuav tau rho nyiaj rov
qab mus yuav los mas luag thiaj li kam rau yus no ned--tusiab ua luaj
li...nothing else Diane said, that i had not known of..brother!
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨
May 18, 2012, 4:38:04 PM5/18/12
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kaj tsij pos muag quaj nrov nrov xwb os hmoob aw. nej ces tas li ntawd xwb os.
mag lawv muab caum tua tas tsis txaus lawv muab khawb tuam tuag lawm. tsam no ces kom them nyiaj 200,000 $ rau tej yam zoo li yuav them tsis paub kawg.
--idnk
Hmong-Lao
May 22, 2012, 12:27:06 PM5/22/12
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Hmoob tham txog cov ntxa tom Thamkrabot heev ua luaj, ua li cas tsis
hnov leej twg mention txog cov ntxa tom Vinai li? Raws li kuv pom
video, cov ntxha nyob rau zos Vinai los yeej raug khawb tag lawm.
Tsuas tshuav cov uas luag tsis pom lawm xwb.
Thaum thajtsam 1982-83 ntawd, luag tuaj tshom kev thiab tshom quas
tsev (Khej 5/9), twb dawj tau Hmoob tej ntxa ua khaub hlab tawm liab
pes vog, thiab pob txha tawm dawb pes vog (first hand witness). Lub
sijhawm ntawd, Hmoob tseem ruam heev thiaj hais tsis tau ib lo rau
luag li. Yeeb vim li no, luag thiaj tabmeeg tuaj khawb Hmoob ntxa ua
ntu zus los txog rau lub zijceeb no.
Zag nuav txawv zag u lawm, Hmoob coj mus hais txog rau UN los yeej yog
ib qho zoo. Txawm hais tsis tau ib qho dabtsi los tsuav kom luag ntiaj
teb paub hais tias Hmoob no yeej tsis yog ruam ruam li yav tag los
lawm. Kom luag yuav ua ib yam dabtsi rau Hmoob los lawv xav ib zaug
ntxiv tso mam ua ces twb zoo lawm.
Hais txog tej yam zoo li no, ib lub suab xwb yeej nrov tsis muaj zog.
Yim ntau lub suab ces yim nrov muaj zog xwb nawb. Txawm muaj kaum pab
mus hais rau luag los yeej tsis txhaum li mog. Yim muaj ntau pab mus
hais ces luag yim saib qhov issue ntawd tseem ceeb xwb nawb. Tabsis
xav kom sawvdaws ci qos ua ntej es mus hais TIB lo lus xwb luag thiaj
ntseeg thiab mloog raug peb mog.
HL
Hmong-Lao
May 22, 2012, 12:34:16 PM5/22/12
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On May 18, 3:38 pm, idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ <mih...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yog mus hais tsis yeej es yuav costs Hmoob txog tsheej 1-2 puas txhiab
los yeej yuav tau sib pab them li nawb. Qhov loj yog Hmoob lub npe
thiab Hmoob kablis kevcai xwb. Yam tsawg tsawg los nws yuav yog ib qho
lesson rau Thaib thiab neeg ntiaj teb kom tsis txhob lam khawb Hmoob
ntxa ntxiv lawm.
HL
Thorn...@yahoo.com
May 23, 2012, 11:42:42 PM5/23/12
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> Tam li kuv paub mas koj thiab Dr. Yang Dao nej yog ib qhab nab ua hauj
> lwm rau nplog liab, thaum i kuv hnov koj hais txog niag fajkhaum laus
> mas phem dag noj dag haus kawg nkaus no, kuv xav tias ntshe yog koj
> nrog Hmoob ib pab kas moos twg es koj hais no uas ua cas txog thaum
> paub qhov tseeb no na has koj yog ua hauj lwm rau nplog liab. Koj
> ntseeg nplog liab npaum ntawd ua cas koj tsi nyob twb ywm tim nplog
> txhob khiav tuaj tim teb chaws thib 3 no, es thaum twg koj pom Hmoob
> meskas los ces koj ua niag neeg thov khawv raws Hmoob meskas qab ncuj
> nciav, thiab koj tso me nyuam tuaj thov khawv nyiaj ua yam niag rhuav
> plhu ntsuav li hais no-no.
tseem tshaajlij kawg nkaus le hab! Koj tub paub has tas kuv nrug DYD
puab ua ib team ua dlejnum rua Nploglab nua mas koj khub los tsis yog
khoom quav qab dlub kag le lawm hab ov. Kuv txawm yuav ua haujlwm rua
leej twg los ntawd yog kuv dlej kuv num nwg yeej tsis txhum leej twg.
Yog vim le caag kuv ua dlejnum rua Nploglab xwb es hua yuav txhum koj
hab mas lov? Kuv noog mas muaj cov Moob tug puav moog cuag hab tuav
tes tau nrug tej numtswv Nploglab xwb mas koj txujsa tub yuav tu, yuav
tu txug teg le; yog koj tseem pum kag ntawm qhov muag hab tes kawg koj
sav tu dlo taam sim hov lawm xwb lauj. Ntawd yog luag dlej luag num
nas es caag xij yuav khib hab mob koj sab ua luaj le hov mas yawg?
Puag yog koj pum luag ua tau noj lawm es koj sa txhaj yaaj ntsis tu
nrawv nro le ko. Tug tuab neeg lim ham mas thaum yug ua tsis tau le
luag ua lawm txhaj le nrhav tswv yim ha le u le nuav rua luag xwb. Yog
tas koj yog ib tug tuab neeg zoo mas txawm koj xaav tau rua nruab sab
los yeej tsis muab has tawm but you are a no man, no wonder you keep
shooting your own forehead.
Kuv txawm ntseeg tus twg, nyob tebchaws twg los tsis yog koj dlejnum,
tsuav yog Asmelikas pub kuv nyob xwb yeej tsis txhum leej twg. Koj nim
has cuag le koj koj tug tswv teb tswv chaw tswj lub tebchaws
Asemelikas nuav hab muaj authority zawm kuv rua ntawm koj xib teg. Xob
laam cuab ntse le tug ruag tua tsuv le ko, tej lug koj has ko has no
merit.
> Kuv xav nug koj hais tias tus neeg Vwm coj yam ntxwv kev noj nyob zoo
> li cas? Tus neeg tsi Vwm ho coj tus yam ntxwv zoo li cas no? koj sim
> piav me ntsis tshab txhais rau peb mloog thiab suas.
tsis vwm sis txawv le caag tes tug tuab neeg vwm tes zoo le koj ntaag.
Vwm quas ntsuav, zoo le tug dlev vwm kws ncaaj twg kaug twg, txug twg
lawg twg. Tug tuab neeg twg has lug los txhum koj taag huv tuab si le,
koj tej lug tsis muaj ib lu yuav muaj positive le tsuas yog has lug
vwm nkaus nkaus xwb. Coj tug xeeb ceem le ko tes yog xeeb ceem vwm
ntaag ov.
> Kuv xav nug koj tias neeg ntiaj teb ib sij muaj dua ib lub teb chaws
> tshiab ntxiv quj qees tuaj ntawd yog ua li cas thiaj li muaj taus tej
> teb chaws li ntawd ntxiv quj qees?
ca le muaj taug teb chaw tshab. Tsuas yog koj tuab leeg mas txhaj le
xaav tas tuaj tsej cuag tug dlev vwm quav ncaug sis nrug zig huv nuav
tes yuav muaj taus teb chaws xwb. Kuv nug koj has tas lub tebchaws twg
yog lub tebchaws tshab koj refer rua?
Kuv pom koj rab nriam mas muab ceem
> tau nkeg dhau hwv lawm hov los zeeg hniav xwb yuav siv tsi tau rau
> Hmoob, tab sis yog ua dev raws nqaij rau nplog liab tua no nyaj yuav
> tshaj lij ua tau heev rau lub tswv yim thau haiv ntawd.
nplaig puav tes tub zoo, hua koj tes tsuas nov lub suab dlev poob phem
xwb qhov ncauj txhaj le tsis
lu roj txhaj ua rua koj nyob tsis tswm sav yuav tu ntaag.
Thaum cov hauv
> SCH no hais txog Dr. YD thiab Dr. Pao Thao nkawd mus txais Liam tim
> nplog mas koj tsi tuaj qw ib suab li cuag li koj twb tsaug zog tas li
> tsi sawv, koj txoj kev ua tau tsuas yog ua tau ntawm ntug cub rau
> Hmoob xwb ne.
ncaaj nceeg txaus rua numtswv Nplog lawm luag txhaj le tau es koj xij
khib ua dlaab tsi nas yawg! Tug tuab neeg cog yaam qoob zoo, nwg yeej
yuav tau sau yaam qoob hov rov lug kuas koj tes cog xuv paug xwb txhaj
le sau tau xuv paug xwb. Tug tuab neeg muaj evil kws always plan
violent activities txhaj le tsis tau txais liam los xob khib khib sab
mog. Yog xaav tau le ob tug tes kawg yuav tau mav mav xauj ob tug qaab
seb puas nov ob tug paus tswv xwb les es.
>Koj li yog dev raws nqaij xwb tsi tas tawm
> tuaj hais lus, ua ntej yus yuav hais lus yus yuav qhia tau ib cov lus
> tseem ceeb rau neeg paub thiab kawm koj tej lus txawj lus ntse, ua cas
> tsi muaj ib lo lus uas kuv yuav khaws koj cov lus cia ua ntshuaj li,
> pab koj tus siab tias ua neeg hais lus tsi muaj qab hau rau neeg kawm.
pw lawm nyob qhov twg naj? Tug tuab neeg xiam hlwb tsis muaj laaj kaam
ua naj nub tuaj tshev tug u tug nuav, luag ua zoo los txhum koj huv
tuab sis mas kuv saib tsis ntev nua kawg tau moog prescribe tshuaj
xiam hlwb noj tag tag le.
> Nws twb ua tsi tau ib nyuag qhov pab ib tus Hmoob qhov twg hlo li, nws
> tsuas ua tau qhov uas dag nplog liab nyiaj noj nkaus xwb. Ua cas tsob
> Fajkhaum qaug tav ntuj no lawm es Thorsp ho ua tau dab tsi rau Hmoob
> thiab, tsi tau li ne, ua neeg cas yuav ntse nrau qwb ua luaj yuav ua
> cas tau noj thiab no.
nkaus xwb”, yog kuv tub ua tau le nuav lawm tes kuj yog ua tau ib teg
num zoo heev rov rua nwg tug kheej lawm. Ca kuv hua nug koj tas since
Thornspear ua tsis tau dlaab tsis rua Moob kuas nwg ua tau rua nwg xwb
nua es xaav nug koj seb koj hua ua tau dlaab tsi hab maj? Qha seb koj
hua ua tau yaam dlaab tsi rua Moob lawm. Yog has npaum le ko mas koj
yuav tsum ua tau ib yaam dlaab tsi tseem ceeb rua Moob lawm mas txhaj
muaj plus tuaj khaav txiv le ko, yog koj tub ua tsis tau quav dlaab
tsi hab es xij pheej yuav point finger luag lwm tuges koj tsis txaaj
koj ob lub qhov muag le lov? Txawm yug tsis txaaj muag rua lwm tug
los yuav tau paub txaaj muag rov rua yug tug kheej. Tej zaag koj hlwb
ib nyuag qauj zog lawm xwb, kuv yeej tsis tau has tas nub twg tug
faajkhum laug qaug tes kuv, Thornspear yuav sawv nuav nav; kuv ncu mas
kuv tsuas has tas “Moob” txhaj yuav sawv taug nuav xwb. Lu lug “Moob”
nua tes yeej including koj YTK rua huv lawm hab yog tas koj paub tsis
txug nas.
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