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Jay Stevens

Jay Stevens is a novelist, historian, and journalist with a special
interest in states of consciousness. He is the author of Storming
Heaven: LSD and the American Dream, and co-author of Drumming at the
Edge of Magic with Grateful Dead percussionist Mickey Hart and
ethnomusicologist Fredric Lieberman. He lives most of the year on a
farm in Vermont, where he writes and continues the alchemical family
tradition of making maple syrup. At present he is finishing two
companion volumes to Storming Heaven entitled Burning Down the House
and Consciousness Wars.

Books by Jay Stevens

Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream (Grove Press 1998) ISBN
0-8021-3587-0

Drumming at the Edge of Magic (with Mickey Hart & Fredric Lieberman)
(1990 Harper San Francisco) ISBN 1-888358-18-1

Planet Drum: A Celebration of Percussion and Rhythm (with Mickey Hart
& Fredric Lieberman) (1998 Harper San Francisco) ISBN 1-888358-20-3

External links

Jay Stevens' website

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Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream (Paperback)
~ Jay Stevens
Jay Stevens (Author)

(Author) "Had you asked your average hippie about beginnings, you
would have discovered there were as many as there were hippies-
everyone had a favorite chronology..." (more)

4.9 out of 5 stars See all reviews (34 customer reviews)

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Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream

(34 customer reviews)

16 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
"Turn On" To This Fascinating Book!

I was born in 1960, so I was a little to young to appreciate the
"Summer Of Love", Haight-Ashbury and the entire late 60's counter-
culture movement. My fascination with that era began with Jimi Hendrix
and other musicians associate with it. Most of the social aspects I
was aware of were written by the "slanted" view of the media,
teachers, politicians and parents; not the...
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Published on April 4, 2003 by "The Woj"

5 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
A comfortably mediocre history of the 1960s

I'm at a loss to understand why everyone likes this books so much. One
guess is that that the "five star" rating reflects the weirdness and
coolness of the events portrayed rather than the history itself.
Personally, I find the historical and bibliographic breadth limited,
and the author's analysis and discussion of the events unfortunately
never gets beyond...

Published on July 3, 1999

16 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
"Turn On" To This Fascinating Book!, April 4, 2003
By "The Woj" (Downers Grove, IL) -

I was born in 1960, so I was a little to young to appreciate the
"Summer Of Love", Haight-Ashbury and the entire late 60's counter-
culture movement. My fascination with that era began with Jimi Hendrix
and other musicians associate with it. Most of the social aspects I
was aware of were written by the "slanted" view of the media,
teachers, politicians and parents; not the most objective of
viewpoints
When I heard about this book I picked it up ... ASAP and was not
disappointed. I will not go into lengthy discussions of this book like
other reviewers (or even spell all the words correctly). While
reading, Jay Stevens was placing me "there", "right there" where is
was all happening from Aldous Huxley, to Timothy Leary and Ken Kesey.
The story unfolds "expertly" and the characters involved are so well
described, it feels like I've met them personally.

While much of the information is public knowledge, there are many
fascinating, generally unknown tidbits: from the CIA's LSD involvement
to insights on Leary & Kesey.
Anyone who holds any interest in this subject will not be disappointed
with this book. From someone who grew up on The Brady Bunch, The
Monkees & Happy Days....this book is a definite eye opener into a
cultural wave I wish I had been riding.... so "Turn On, Tune In & Get
This Book". Help other customers find the most helpful reviews

11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
A Fascinating History, March 2, 2001
By nonamespecified -

It seems to me, as others have said, that the discovery of LSD ranks
up there with the top scientific discoveries of the century. The mere
fact alone that there exists a substance, 50 micrograms of which,
would be sufficient to perhaps reorient your entire life and
understanding of the universe, whether or not one ever actually tries
it, is well worth remembering on those occasions when we get a little
too self-preoccupied. This book documents the history of the reactions
of various individuals as they encountered this substance through an
amazingly varied set of contexts, and through an intricately woven web
of connections. I have a mild annoyance with the book in that the
author is relentless in his effort to remain 'above it all' and
regards everything with an amused and detached air. It is a puzzling
attitude in a way. But the stories he tells are all well-crafted and
make compelling reading. His lack of reflection on the ultimate
meaning of LSD for our view of what it is to be 'normal' may be quite
intentional, but it seems to give the book an unnecessarily
superficial orientation which I found a bit strange. Help other
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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
The Politics of Consciousness, January 17, 2006
By Mr Potato Head (Sierra Foothills CA) -

What if you could take a pill or otherwise ingest some substance that
would make you see your whole world totally differently than you have
seen it before? How do you think your life would change, or would you
be any different at all?

As we all know, even if we weren't there...this is a large part of
what the 1960's were about. And this book provides a window into the
web of events and players that emerged during that turbulent time in
our evolution. In my view, it presents an unbiased social history of
consciousness expanding chemistry and it's consequences on the human
mind and by extension, upon the greater society as a whole. The author
uses scenes that are vivid and intimate into the players that had
major roles in this upheaval of the status qou - Tim Leary, Allen
Ginsberg, Richard Alpert(aka. Ram Dass), Jack Kerouac, Ken Kesey,
Aldous Huxley, to name just a few. And of course, they all had their
own opinions on how the revolution was to proceed, with frequent
disagreements. There is also considerable light shed on the fact that
LSD, mescaline, psilocybin, and other compounds were being used with
considerable effectiveness within parts of the psychoanalytic
community for several years before the powers that be came in and put
them back in the box. But even if they hadn't passed laws against
these tools, it would have eventually come crashing down of it's own
weight. In the end, it was too radical a departure from the societal
norms and the movement itself had no real leaders. Leadership was
anathema to the revolution, the paradox being that authority was what
was being disempowered. The result is that the dream spiraled out of
control and we eventually ended up with Ronald Raygun as President and
we haven't quite been the same since.

The central question posed by this book seems to be: Who is the
ultimate arbiter of what you do with your consciousness? I would
suggest that if your answer involves anyone or anything outside your
self, then you are not truely free. Help other customers find the most
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
A very thorough and valuable history of the early years, May 6, 2001
By Martian Bachelor (Feminacentric America) -

This investigative tour de force covers in great detail the years from
1943 (and a little before) up through the LSD hysteria circa 1965-7.
I'm marking it down a star because of its inexplicable lack of an
index, which greatly reduces its value as a research reference --
which it surely deserves to be. There are so many biographies trying
to be told simultaneously here that it sometimes got a bit confusing.
It also tends to go off on occasional tangents, digressing at what to
me seemed like too great a length regarding some of the characters of
the story which (again) to me seemed more like minor ones not worth
the many background pages devoted to them. But those are rather small
quibbles really.

Stevens is pretty good at keeping central issues front and center as
events unfold: eg, how the psychological models evolved over time, and
the socio-political question of whether the power of this amazing
molecule was for the masses or just for the few -- both of which
became more or less moot as events over-ran things.

I liked "Acid Dreams" a microgram or two more than this book, probably
because it emphasizes cultural rather than personal history more, but
still had a difficult time putting "Storming Heaven" down for very
long. It's extremely information-rich and well-written -- it's rather
dispassionately objective while still being interesting. It would
probably only disappoint those looking for simple answers.

6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
It pulls all of the loose ends together, September 28, 2005
By Umberto (Kansas City) -

The author takes the reader on a fascinating journey to visit the
people, places, and cultures of the psychedelic movement. This book
contains interesting inside information about Albert Hoffman, Aldous
Huxley, Timothy Leary, Richard Alpert, Jack Kerouac, Alan Ginsberg,
Neal Cassady, Ken Kesey, Owsley, and a myriad of minor players whose
names are fading into history. The story is chronicled from the Swiss
Labs where LSD was first discovered to its legitimate use in the
psychiatric profession to the artistic salons of the 50's to Harvard
to the native villages of Mexico to Leary's temporary home at the
Millbrook mansion to Kesey's Prankster hang-out in La Honda to the
Haight-Ashbury to the streets of America. An enjoyable peek into
diverse cultures from the psychiatric clinicians to world renowned
authors and artisans to the faculty of Harvard and Berkley to pre-
Columbian mushroom cults to the Beat poets to the Hell's Angels to the
Hippies. It is The Doors of Perception, The Psychedelic Experience, On
the Road, Howl, Holy Goof, Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, and Living
with the Dead all rolled into one. Exhaustively researched, a very
entertaining read from front to back. Like the era that it chronicles,
I hated for the book to end. Help other customers find the most
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
Five stars plus, January 6, 2007
By Brian P. Akers -

It is no fluke that this book has an average rating of five stars from
amazon.com readers. This is simply one of the most informative,
enjoyable and engaging presentations ever written on the subject of
hallucinogenic drugs in modern history, and how they made their way
from the obscurity of laboratories and clinical research to become a
fixture in the counterculture of the 1960's and beyond. The
complexities of the story make it a formidable challenge for any
narrator, but Stevens proves easily equal to the task. In the pages of
this book, the reader is introduced to the dramatis personae with an
immediacy as though meeting them in person. Many of the facts
discussed herein have been recounted before by many capable others.
But never have they been put into such a vivid and vibrant perspective
as this, so thorough and rich with nuance. That's important because
the depths of this story, stranger as it is than any fiction, are
where its meaning emerges most clearly. Ever since the impact of LSD
and its profound, pervasive influences on our life and times, modern
society will never be the same. And it is impossible to imagine what
popular culture would now be like without the psychedelic revolution
of the 20th century. "Storming Heaven" offers the best single account
of how and why this is so. This is a real page-turner, very difficult
to put down, and is highly recommended for the interested reader. Help
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
Rare Insight into Drugs & Counterculture in the Postwar US, January
6, 1998
By A Customer

This review is from: Storming Heaven: Lsd and the American Dream
(Hardcover)
Stevens transports us to times and places that *should* be alien, and
*should* be unusual, but instead takes us into parlors, labs, music
halls, and jungles to give us what sounds and tastes like the real
poop on how, and more importantly, why a drug culture was so
ferociously and speedily born in postwar America. So real are his
profiles, and so uncharacteristically down to earth compared to the
other well known and more academic studies of the genre, that we, as
readers, can easily see and identify with why Hoffman, the Wassons,
Alpert, Leary, Huxley, et al took to these unique alkaloids in an
ongoing attempt to seek new truths, often to to validate inner
yearnings. Stevens feels like he was there, and so will you. If
nothing else, "Storming Heaven" is a great read simply because Stevens
is so very, very *on*. A must read if you are even remotely interested
in the modern drug phenomenon, with a few bonuses of drugs in history
(and theory) thrown in for good measure. I lent my copy out four years
ago, never got it back, and have since regretted it! Help other
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
The Sixties, Microgram by Microgram, February 21, 2008
By JOHN J. MCGRAW "author of Brain & Belief" (Solana Beach, CA USA)
-

This is the definitive account of the 1960s psychedelic drug scene.
Stevens does a great job of conveying the highs and lows of LSD and
its proponents. His ability to relate endless facts while retaining a
fast-paced narrative structure is amazing. I found this one of the
most "addicting" books out there about the significance of drugs in
American culture. Stevens reviews all the major personalities: Albert
Hoffman, Timothy Leary, Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters, the
Grateful Dead, Alan Watts, Jack Kerouac, Aldous Huxley, and more. If
you're interested in this electric decade, the power of psychedelics
to warp the mind, or any of the poet-prophets who were compelled to
experiment with and sing the praises of acid then this book is sure to
delight. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews

6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
Quality journalistic-type writing, March 27, 2003
By Ross James Browne (Atlanta, Georgia United States) -

_Storming Heaven_ is a non-ficticious account of the history of the
spread of LSD in America and England during the 50's and 60's. It
gives detailed accounts of all of the major players in the early days
of the synthesization and distribution of this drug. It is not as
thoughtful or philosophical as I hoped, and has little to say about
the implications and nuances of the actual effects of the drug.
However, I came to accept this book for what it is, which is a matter-
of-fact description of how this drug progressed from the university
offices and laboratories to the streets of San Francisco. This book
has much to say about both the east-coast and west-coast acid scenes
of the 50's and 60's. In the east, you have Timothy Leary, Richard
Alpert, and Alan Watts, and their whole gang of weirdos hanging out in
an acid-soaked mansion in Millbrook NY. It is very interesting to read
about the(mis)adventures of these three men, all of whom (especially
Alan Watts) are gifted and accomplished writers. For those who are
fans of their work, _Storming Heaven_ is a must-read if for no other
reason than to get some idea of the formative influences of these
writers.

The west coast scene, in contrast, was less intellectual and more of a
free-for-all. Jay Stevens describes the exploits of Ken Kesey, and the
riders of his magic bus. Of course any discussion of Ken Kesey will
inevitably lead to a discussion of the Grateful Dead, and the
handiwork of their "chemist" mr. Owlsley. Stevens also covers the
involvement of the Hell's Angels in this west coast movement. All of
this makes for very entertaining, albeit light, reading.

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
enthralled, February 5, 2000
By A Customer

Storming Heaven chronicles the advent of LSD (as well as many other
halucinagens) from its early days as a pharmaceutical curio to
indispensable ingredient of sixties social upheaval. In rich detail it
explains how, from the Sandoz pharmaceutical labs in Switzerland it
made its timely way to American shores where it found, in the form of
Timothy Leary, (and before him Aldous Huxley) its high priest. Help
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
The Battle betwen God's Flesh and Green Money, September 6, 1999
By A Customer

Segue to the end: money wins. Personal greed (or some variant of
Maslow's hierarchy) triumphs over freedom of the mind. How pure these
early pioneers of mind expansion were in their intentions. And how
naive.
What kind of society could sustain a populace of blissed-out fun-
seeking consumer bees more bent on self-discovery than on collecting
and distributing green pollen? The answer to this question posed such
a threat to the established system that what resulted was no less than
a civil war, with one side winning a smashing victory.

Life in the trenches is so boring, we need our legal opiates to blot
out the meaninglessness. How dare a group of outsiders suggest an
alternative marketing channel! What would hapen to G.M., Seagram's,
the Papal seat, and the organized crime syndicates working in the
underground economy? Better to have a bloodless revolution (well,
almost...see Chicago in 1968 and Kent State University in 1970) than
to tolerate such an open threat to income production and distribution.

This book is a fine social study that is a "must" reading for anyone
who would attempt to explain the America we live in today. Going
beneath the headlines without sounding too much like Oliver Stone
opens up other interpretations of what happened and suggests what
could have been.

If you were born between 1945 and 1965 and want to know why you and
your friends are doing this instead of that, read this book. If you
are a student of modern American history, read this book. I have read
it three time since it was first published (just finished it again),
and as a baby-boomer born in 1952, I can appreciate just how close to
the mark the author makes his shot.

2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
An incredible slice of modern history, November 13, 2009
By J. C. Walker (London, UK) -

Storming Heaven is a book that will forever stay dear to my heart as
it literally changed my life. I can't expect anyone else to have the
same experience I did, and it changed it in a way you probably
wouldn't imagine, but I can definitely recommend you this book and say
it is a fantastic read. Jay Stevens has written a completely non-
sensationalistic, thoroughly researched and extremely compelling
account of a chapter in modern history that has, unfortunately, become
distorted in contemporary consciousness. This book doesn't create a
rose-tinted view of the American 60's cultural revolution, but instead
unearths its roots, explores its good side and bad, and never forgets
to remain dogged in pursuit of the truth. That isn't to say that the
book is dry, far from it, this is a page-turner that will ultimately
break your heart.

The story contained within is fascinating, far broader than mere drug
experiences and filled with unforgettable characters. It is an
incredible history lesson about a recent time you probably thought you
already understood, but after reading this, will realize you didn't.
If you have any interest in modern history, American culture, or
indeed the potent chemical mentioned in the book's title, this is
*essential* reading.

It expanded my perceptions without the use of drugs, I hope it will do
the same for you. Help other customers find the most helpful
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Superb analysis of the causes of the Sixties phenomenon, June 2,
2009
By Morley Chalmers (Toronto, Ontario Canada) -

What a fabulous piece of writing Storming Heaven is! Simply superb. It
helped connect the dots on that incredible decade, the Sixties, like
nothing I've ever seen before. The rise, the cresting, and the fall.
Greatly appreciated Help other customers find the most helpful
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Superb, August 3, 2008
By Alistair. S. Praties "Buzzardwarrior" (Edinburgh, Scotland) -

This is one of the best books I have read -certainly the best in the
category of social history. Jay Stevens has researched his material
meticulously and has delivered the narrative in a most enthralling
manner. I found it hard to lay the book down. Whether, like me, you
lived through the psychedelic experience of the sixties or you have
but a passive interest, you will be amazed to learn of the full impact
that the psychedelic culture has had on Western society, religion and
philosophy -right through to the chemical hedonism of today.

This is truly a superb read! Help other customers find the most
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Gotta throw in my five stars too-, July 1, 1999
By A Customer

Fascinating history of psychedelic drugs that weaves it's way through
pharmacology, psychiatry, academia and ends up in the middle of Haight
Street... Mr. Stevens beautifully summarizes the cultural mindset of
the 50's and 60's. What amazes me is how fast everything soured... I
can't say enough good things about this book. What a trip... Help
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
Tune in, turn on, drop out!, March 8, 2008
By Doc Smiley (Studio City, CA USA) -

I bought this on the recommendation of Dr. Stanley Krippner in a
lecture on ayahuasca. It is absolutely the best book I have read on
the history of the psychedelic movement during the past 100 years or
so. Timothy Leary is not dead - he's only outside looking in. :-) Help
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
An absolute gem!, July 28, 2000
By Richard J Murphy (London) -

I loved this book. It had me gripped to it from start to finish. It
facinated, humoured and impired me. If you have any interest in this
remarkable substance and the psycho-social revolution it unleased then
buy this book. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
a missing part of american culture revealed, March 20, 2000
By Tim Shortnacy "followingthepath" (round rock, texas... just north
of austin..) - See all my reviews

if they taught this kind of history in school, I don't think i would
have ever been bored enough to draw stupid comics of stick figures
running about the pages of my notes and classwork.... a truly
inspiring journey into the souls of some truly brave people in their
journey to break on through..... Help other customers find the most
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
read this now, you are late, March 18, 2000
By A Customer

This book is a fair account of the affects and consequenses of mature
ingestion of the chemical Lysergic acid---please read thids book it is
an eye opener for the skeptic--get it in the library first if you
doubt this quick review. Help other customers find the most helpful
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
Once one begins Storming Heaven one can't put it down, March 29,
1999
By A Customer

Storming Heaven is by far the most informative and comprehensive work
I have ever read about the 60's Psychdelic movement! A breathtaking
roller coaster ride down the steep inclines of the human psyche. If
this subject at all perks your interest you won't be able to put it
down! Help other customers find the most helpful reviews

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
A Real Mind Opener, May 29, 1998
By John Walker (j.c.w...@bigfoot.com) (Sheffield, UK) -

This review is from: Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream
(Paperback)
This is a brilliantly researched and executed book. It will change
your view on a lot of things (from religion from politics). There is a
LOT more to this book than just LSD, it is an expose on an incredible
(and misunderstood) time in recent history. This is a brilliant book.
I assure you it is worth your time and effort. Grab a copy if you ever
see it. It WILL open your mind. Help other customers find the most
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
The Best History of the Psychedelic Movement, May 26, 1996
By A Customer

This review is from: Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream
(Paperback)
If you read the literature on the psychedelic movement widely enough,
it can all become a bit of a jumble -- "Hey, haven't I read about this
same party in four different memoirs?" Jay Stevens does a wonderful
service by telling this incredibly complex tale with grace, economy
and clarity. He's fair, compassionate, and unlike a lot of other
people who have written about the counterculture lately, he "gets it."
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
lost history, August 22, 2007
By j0e_x (Canopus) -

This should be required reading in American History. Who knew Canada
had legal LSD centers? And the characters- Nin, Huxley, Kesey, Leary
and Capt.Al Hubbard (??). Will we ever see their like again? Really a
very sad story, and a fascinating one. Nice to see the Chief Boo Hoo,
old Art Kleps in there as well. Sen. Kennedy: "Is your title really
Chief Boo Hoo?" Art Kleps: "I'm afraid so, sir." Help other customers
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An Exceptional Weave of an Interesting History, January 16, 2003
By Norm Zurawski (Millington, NJ United States) -

In the spirit of the subject matter, the best word to describe this
book is...cool. The author appears to have a genuine desire to
objectively explore the history, for better or worse, of LSD and its
role in American culture. Stevens does not approach this work being
for nor against LSD. He just looks. As a result, this book comes out
with flying colors...pun intended.

This book is a diamond in the rough for those who wish to take that
same exploratory approach in reading about LSD and the history of this
potent and controversial drug. It's not geared for people who are
vehemently pro/anti LSD. Preconceived notions should be checked at the
door before embarking on this adventure.

Stevens looks at LSD from its very beginnings, where characters such
as Hoffman, Osmond, and Huxley help pave the way for much of what
comes later in the book. As the narrative moves on, familiar names
such as Ginsberg, Leary, Burroughs, Kerouac, Alpert, Metzner, Kesey,
Cassady, Weil, Watts, and Wolfe, among others, enter and exit the
stage like bit actors in this great showcase. If you've ever been
enamored with the doings of any of those names, this book weaves a
pattern from threads of various legacies in one fascinating tapestry.

As a caveat to the above paragraph, none of those characters is
covered in much detail, with the exception of Timothy Leary. This is
more a result of Leary's intense involvement with the scene than
Stevens' focusing on one extraordinary character. Some of those people
(Burroughs, for instance) make very brief but interesting
appearances.

In addition to those mentioned, many unknown but intriguing characters
fill the pages of this book. More than likely, every one of them will
lead you to read on, until another name segues into the narrative.
Stevens does a great job researching this story and presenting it to
the reader in one piece.

Every time I review a book I do my best to find something which was
lacking, no matter how much I enjoyed it. In this particular case, I
have a hard time pinpointing anything to find fault with. The only
complaint I might have is that it was too short. One imagines that
pages and pages of material never made it to press and it's a shame
this book had to end where it did. I would have kept reading if it
were twice as long.

I do have to cede a point that one other reviewer makes. He comments
that the prevalence of 5 star ratings, "reflects the weirdness and
coolness of the events portrayed rather than the history itself." I do
have to lend some credence to that point and admit that this may be
true. However, as this subject matter is relatively new to me, the
book still rates 5 stars in terms of an introduction to the subject.
As a history on the subject, it's the role of the author to tell the
story, and Stevens does that well.

In all, a great read. A fascinating perspective brought to you by
someone trying to elucidate the ups and downs of LSD and the movement
it helped create. Again, this is not going to be a favorite of the pro-
LSD hippie or the anti-drug conservative. But for those of you who
want a fairly balanced, comprehensive view of the history of LSD and
how it influenced culture in America, I strongly recommend this book.

Very well done.

A trip, October 13, 2000
By Jay Stevens (Missoula, MT) -

Let's get a couple of things straight: No, I am not the author. No,
I'm not related to the author. So despite the name, I think I'm pretty
unbiased, although some might think otherwise after reading the
following glowing review of Jay Stevens' book, "Storming Heaven."

This was a great book.

Mr. Stevens tracks LSD from its inception through San Francisco's "the
Summer of Love" in late 60s. He artfully describes the discovery of
the drug and its effect on the psychologists who first used it on
their patients and on themselves. He introduces Alduous Huxley, Tim
Leary, and Ken Kesey-the pied pipers of LSD-and explains their
fascination for psychedelics. He discusses the drug's decline, its
unpopularity with government officials, its abuse by "untrained"
American kids, and the progressive marginalization of the drug's
"prophets." And all the while, Stevens skillfully gives voice to the
drug's proponents' vision of a "metal frontier" to be crossed using
LSD, pushing human beings along the evolutionary path.

It is clear from Mr. Stevens' book that LSD played a major role in the
fundamental changes wrought in the 1960s. LSD tore down personal
constructs and unveiled egos. LSD gave everyday Americans a chance to
experience mystical visions. LSD gave many new insight into the nature
of being. It was a psychological drug, and explains why most of the
social change that occurred in the 1960s was psychological in nature.

But while Mr. Stevens in his Epilogue seems to laud the continuation
of psychological exploration by a handful of "inner" explorers who use
a series of newly developed designer psychedelics, I think he
misrepresents the importance of these drugs.

First, the assumption that LSD will lead man (and woman) along the
evolutionary path assumes that this path is straight and pointed in a
forward direction. That is, that evolution is a natural process from
simple to complex, from amoebas to man and beyond. Instead, science
now concludes that evolution is more of a willy-nilly process. Species
constantly bloom a number of seemingly useless mutations, and changes
in environment conditions dictate which mutation reigns supreme. After
all, it seems that the next species to inherit the planet is likely to
be the cockroach, for the cockroach has the rigor and hardiness to
withstand the destruction of the planet by humans. And cockroaches are
hardly superior in intelligence or complexity.

Second, is the assumption that LSD can "lead" us anywhere. While LSD
gives visions, reveals fundamental truths about personality, it
doesn't change anything. It's up to the individual in the end to enact
change, to mutate. We only have to look at the example of Tim Leary to
realize this. While Mr. Leary was turned on to the drug and believed
its in therapeutic value, in the text he remained a womanizing,
upperly-mobile egoist; he just traded in his tweed for buckskin, and
academia for psychedelia.

Basically LSD is a shortcut. It's a quick-fix buzz. In that way, it's
the ideal substance for America. "Vision in a can." "Become a mystic
in 12 easy hours." I would've liked to Mr. Stevens explore this facet
of LSD a little more. But he seems to be totally enchanted with the
cosmic possibilities...

In any case, the writing is superb. It's the perfect book to read to
begin exploring the important texts of the 20th century bohemian
movement. Read this alongside "Brave New World," "One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest," "On the Road," "Electric Cool-Aid Acid Test," and
"Howl," among other texts.

Technicolored Masterpiece of a Maelstrom, January 8, 2000
By Ian Hough (Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts) -

This is very likely the best book I have ever read. It gave me a taste
for any non-fiction which is written in "story" form. Jay Stevens
leads us down a realistic but picturesque garden path, stopping at
many points along the way to point out the more fascinating
individuals and descriptions of the world, created by this incredible
chemical. He quotes one voyager as saying "I was struck more by its
strangeness than its beauty." Obviously a man with some experience of
that other world, Stevens is slick as well as humane in his treatment
of what it did to a generation, and what happened to them when it was
over. From the moment Albert Hofmann accidentally ingested the stuff
in Basle, to the studious setting of Huxley's awakening, to Tim Leary
and his anti-establishment stance in the bowels of Harvard, to Allen
Ginsberg's being born again, and on into the psychological armageddon
beyond Altamont, Stevens' voice never wavers, but becomes ever
clearer, more colorful and true. I lay on a bed for two days straight
and read this big book. It was a trip, and the volume stands in a very
convenient spot on my bookshelf. It shines. Help other customers find
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Superb in every way, May 1, 1999
By A Customer

This is simply one of the greatest works of non-fiction, and I only
stop there because it's so difficult to categorize. History,
biography, science and sociology seamlessly mingle in some of the most
ecstatic -- yet not over-the-top -- prose one is likely to encounter.
This is one of those books that you are truly sad to see end, so rich
is Stevens' portrayal of a time and its remarkable characters, Leary
and Kesey foremost among them. For once a book that deserves the
epithet 'remarkable'. Help other customers find the most helpful
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Excellent Psychedelic History, September 30, 1998
By A Customer

This book is pure information. And I cannot get enough of it. Help
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5 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
A comfortably mediocre history of the 1960s, July 3, 1999
By A Customer

I'm at a loss to understand why everyone likes this books so much. One
guess is that that the "five star" rating reflects the weirdness and
coolness of the events portrayed rather than the history itself.
Personally, I find the historical and bibliographic breadth limited,
and the author's analysis and discussion of the events unfortunately
never gets beyond the obvious. A somewhat better bet is Acid Dreams by
Lee and Shlain. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews

1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
The book itself is mind-expanding!, June 18, 1999
By A Customer

Obviously, the subject of LSD is a touchy one, yet Jay Stevens'
painstaking research gains the trust of the reader early and maintains
it throughout. I am a chemist, and he describes the circumstances
surrounding the discovery of LSD perfectly. My father is a
psychologist, and he was surprised at Jay Stevens' insights into the
state of psychological research in the post-war era. This book is much
more of a social history than it is a history of LSD- I only wish Jay
Stevens would write more books. Help other customers find the most
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For those that were there and for those that were not there!, May 18,
1999
By god...@aol.com (Las Vegas, Nevada) -

An amazing compilation of the scene! If you took the psychedelic
drugs, you were blown away by what was happening. If you didn't take
the psychedelic drugs, I hope you were blown away by what was
happening. If you weren't taking the drugs and/or weren't blown away,
then read this book, it is your last chance. War, Karma, Instant
Nirvana, the nature of consciousness and mental illness...It is your
mind; examine it! Help other customers find the most helpful
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Allowing "Generation X " to understand "Generation?", September 30,
1997
By A Customer

This review is from: Storming Heaven: Lsd and the American Dream
(Hardcover)
When generation X looks back on the past, it's easy to get the
picture. Cheech and Chong and Woodstock right? Jay Stevens who
obviously feels this stereotyping is getting out of hand, sends us 19
to 30 range on a magic carpet ride. Storming Heaven distributes the
controversial substance LSD in a form uunlike most non fiction.
Labratories and bordellos, parks and experiments come to life, while
Stevens carefully rations narcotic expertise with historical fact.
This books provides anyone wanting crystal clear perspective about LSD
as well as history in the last half century. Right down to the bicycle
ride home.(I'll let you find out) Help other customers find the most
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7 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
Very good but ignores many facets of certain indivuals, February 10,
2007
By Cwn_Annwn (Copenhagen, Denmark) -

This was a very good book. You get lots of interesting stuff about
Aldous Huxley, the famous beat writers, Owsley, Timothy Leary, Ken
Kesey and the evolution of the so called counterculture as a whole.

The problems that I have with Storming Heaven is not for what was in
it but what was left out. For one Stevens was WAY too easy on Timothy
Leary. The author seemed almost like a school girl with a crush when
he recounts his visit to Learys home for an interview for the book. He
comes off more as a fan than he does an objective writer at times when
he deals with Leary. Why wasn't it mentioned that it has come out that
Leary was a government informant and information he gave led to the
death of two members of the Weather Underground? Its also a known fact
that Leary was surrounded by CIA assets and there is a lot of evidence
that he was a government agent himself, and at the least he was
feeding them information.

There is also a fleeting mention that wasn't elaborated on about Ken
Kesey that he had LSD experiments done on him at Stanford by the guy
that ended up in charge of the CIAs Mkultra mind control program. This
really makes me wonder about Kesey. Its more or less accepted history
that the first LSD to get out on the street level was what Kesey stole
from the medicine chest at his job as a night shift janitor at a
mental hospital and distributed it among his elitist friends. Kesey
went from writing what was probably the best novel written during the
1960's to, while becoming a counterculture hero, never writing another
thing worth reading again. Did doing too much LSD scramble his brains
and ruin his creativity or was his creativity nullified by Mkultra
programming? Its hard to say for sure but I have to wonder if Kesey
was not under some sort of mind control or was being used by the CIA
in one way or another. There are a lot of unanswered questions in my
mind about Kesey.

They also fleetingly mention the Brotherhood of Eternal Love who were
major LSD distributors and were known to be full of CIA people and had
a close association with a Jewish man named Ron Starks who was a CIA
spook that also happened to the biggest LSD dealer in the world.
Starks was not even given the first mention in this book!

I mean with all these ivy league, Mkultra and CIA connections to the
elites of the so called counterculture I have to seriously wonder how
much of the hippy movement of the late 60's was an organic rebellion
against what was (and still is) a very repressive society both
socially and politically and how much of it was intentional social
engineering that came from the highest levels of the power structure.
Many people believe that the anti-war movement was flooded with drugs,
in particular LSD, by federal agents. Its well known that the
government tried to subvert and destroy the anti-war movement with the
cointelpro program so why wouldn't they also use drugs to try to
destroy it? While it can't be denied that LSD has enhanced many an
artist, writer and musicians work can you honestly say that sitting
around frying on acid all the time is going to do anything but disable
political activists who in many cases were in a life and death
struggle? Besides that the fact remains that many people became
permanently damaged as result of doing acid.

All that said I would definitely recomend reading or of you can get it
cheap, buying Storming Heaven. I could hardly put it down once I
started reading it. I realize that this book was more geared toward
looking into what psychelic drugs can do with the mind and its
exponents history and theories on the subject than any conspiratorial
maneuverings by the US government involving LSD but it just didn't go
deep enough into the rabbit hole for my tastes. Help other customers
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Rational and Irrational Beliefs: Research, Theory, and Clinical
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~ Daniel David (Editor), Steven Jay Lynn (Editor), Albert Ellis
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Ethical Educational Leadership in Turbulent Times: (Re) Solving Moral
Dilemmas (Paperback)
~ Joan Poliner Shapiro
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ethical framework, February 18, 2008
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Since I'm taking a class that requires this book, it was not a free
choice of book. However, so far it's proving to be an interesting
framework for ethics in education. Help other customers find the most
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Varieties of Anomalous Experience: Examining the Scientific Evidence
(Hardcover)
~ Etzel Cardena (Editor), Steven Jay Lynn (Editor), Stanley C.
Krippner (Editor)
Key Phrases: anomalous healing experiences, strong synesthesia,
anomalous healing events, New York, Journal of Near-Death Studies,
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59 of 61 people found the following review helpful:
This book is a gem., June 19, 2000
By Sharon S. (Bethesda, MD) -

How fortunate we are to now have in one volume a comprehensive and
scholarly review of the scientific evidence for anomalous experiences.
The fascinating subject matter of this book includes such diverse
phenomena as lucid dreaming, out of body experiences, past life
experiences, and alien abduction. What makes this book different from
other treatments of some of these topics is that the authors have no
hidden agenda or viewpoint that they are trying to put forth. They are
not trying to convince you that something does or does not exist.
Instead it is an even-handed look at the available data and various
competing explanations. And even though it is a scholarly review, it
is well written, engaging, and easy-to-read. Varieties of Anomalous
Experience: Examining the Scientific Evidence belongs on the bookshelf
of anyone who has an interest in understanding and explaining these
unusual phenomena. You won't be disappointed. Help other customers
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34 of 37 people found the following review helpful:
Essential Reading on the Topic, August 7, 2002
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Books surveying anomalous experience have tended to come from the
skeptic side of the fence and have leaned toward the debunking end of
the spectrum. While they have their uses, there's always the nagging
suspicion that they might not be fair to all the evidence. While this
book isn't as easy reading as those of the skeptics, it really shoots
at being a balanced examination of the evidence, pro and con, with
intelligent discussion about where the weight of what we know falls.
Each chapter tackles one anomalous phenomenon and follows a consistant
structure. First, the experience is clearly defined so that we know
what is and is not being addressed. Then, the actual phenomenology of
the phenomenon out in the field is surveyed. Since the book is geared
toward those in the psychological and helping professions, the
emotional, physical, and mental aftereffects of having the experience
are then examined. The range of differences between experients is
presented,then issues involving psychopathology, clinical assessment,
background theories, and methodology of research are shown. Each
chapter is written by an authority on that specific phenomenon and
they provide a summation conclusion at the end where they render their
professional judgment on the topic. If you're looking for a
sensational or spooky handling of the subjects, this isn't your book;
but if you want a very level headed analysis of what is happening in
these fields of research, you need to be familiar with this work. Even
better, each chapter provides pages worth of bibliography, pro and
con, on each subject, that will keep you going for years. Help other
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
Psychology and parapsychology, February 24, 2007
By Sean K. Sayers Montalvo -

Excellent book. I never thought that it could have been posible to
explain parapsychology and psychology in the light of each other. It
has been a great text book for one of my courses. It has helped to
create a more in depth vision of the relationship between both areas.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
Look No Further, Seek No Other;, March 24, 2004
By A Customer

What a delight, I first became interested in the paranormal and this
weird stuff after reading Jerry D. Coleman's "Strange Highways" and
was very glad to see that another book such as "Varieties of Anomalous
Experience" could be on the same tone, meaning, well written,
informative and most important left up to me to decide and draw my own
conclusions! Great book, a wonderful read! Help other customers find
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Varieties of Anomalous Experience., February 23, 2009
By New Age of Barbarism "zosimos" (EVROPA.) -

_Varieties of Anomalous Experience: Examining the Scientific
Evidence_, first published in 2000 by the American Psychological
Association, and edited by psychologists Etzel Cardena, Steven Jay
Lynn, and Stanley Krippner is a collection of various essays examining
experiences which may be classified as "anomalous" from the
perspective of psychological science. The title for this book is
derived from a similar book written by the famous psychologist and
philosopher William James entitled _The Varieties of Religious
Experience_ which examined varieties of religious experience from the
perspective of a psychologist. This book considers anomalous
experience to be defined as "an uncommon experience (e.g. synesthesia)
or one that, although it may be experienced by a substantial amount of
the population (e.g., experiences interpreted as telepathic), is
believed to deviate from ordinary experience or from the usually
accepted explanations of reality." Anomalous experiences are thus
considered in light of "unusual people", parapsychological phenomena,
altered states of consciousness, and psychopathology or abnormal
psychology, and in terms of various cultural factors. In the current
culture, there is widespread mention of such experiences (through for
example such television programs as _The X-Files_) and in the past
science has frequently taken a hostile view to such experiences,
arguing for skepticism. This book however is unique in that all
viewpoints including non-skeptical ones are given a full hearing.
Also, many of the articles that appear in this book take a sympathetic
approach to non-skeptical interpretations of anomalous experiences.

This first article to appear in this book is entitled "Introduction:
Anomalous Experiences in Perspective" by the editors Etzel Cardena,
Steven Jay Lynn, and Stanley Krippner. This article defines the terms
"anomalous" and "anomalous experience" and provides an understanding
of what is meant by such experiences. It then provides a history of
the study of anomalous experiences and provides some detailed critique
of investigations into such topics as parapsychology. Then appears the
outline for the chapters in the book and finally the purpose of the
book mentioning reasons why one might study anomalous experiences and
concluding that a psychology that takes the challenge of William James
to build a comprehensive study of human experience must also examine
those experiences which may be considered anomalous.

Section I of this book is entitled "Conceptual and Methodological
Issues". The first article in this section is entitled "Anomalous
Experiences, Peculiarity, and Psychopathology" by Howard Berenbaum,
John Kerns, and Chitra Raghavan and considers the role of peculiarity
and psychopathology and their possible relationships to those who have
anomalous experiences. The second article is entitled "Methodological
Issues in the Study of Altered States of Consciousness and Anomalous
Experiences" by Ronald J. Pekala and Etzel Cardena and provides an
examination of some methodological issues in the study of altered
states of consciousness and anomalous experiences including
phenomenological and psychophenomenological approaches to these
issues. The authors conclude this article with some recommendations
for researchers.

Section II of this book is entitled "Anomalous Experiences". Each of
the articles in this section consider a different type of anomalous
experience. They consider these experiences in terms of human
differences, cultural factors, and psychopathology. They also provide
various explanations and theories of these experiences considering
both skeptical and non-skeptical interpretations and offering reasons
that support each of these theories. This section contains several
useful and interesting articles that offer a truly open-minded
approach to anomalous experiences that takes these experiences
seriously (while in the past they may have been taken less than
seriously by prior researchers). The articles included in this section
are:

"Hallucinatory Experiences" by Richard P. Bentall,

"Synesthesia" by Lawrence E. Marks,

"Lucid Dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge and Jayne Gackenbach,

"Out-of-Body Experiences" by Carlos S. Alvarado,

"Psi-Related Experiences" by Elisabeth Targ, Marilyn Schlitz, and
Harvey J. Irwin,

"Alien Abduction Experiences" by Stuart Appelle, Steven Jay Lynn, and
Leonard Newman,

"Past-Life Experiences" by Antonia Mills and Steven Jay Lynn,

"Near-Death Experiences" by Bruce Greyson,

"Anomalous Healing Experiences" by Stanley Krippner and Jeanne
Achterberg,
"Mystical Experience" by David M. Wulff.

These articles provide interesting studies of various anomalous
experiences that may not fit into previous scientific or religious
understandings of reality. In particular, for example psi-related
phenomena challenge current scientific understandings and near-death
experiences offer the possibility of the survival of human personality
after death. As such, these experiences prove highly interesting and
this book offers a truly open-minded approach from the perspective of
psychology that examines such experiences. For too long, modern
science has conveniently ignored or tried to deny such experiences and
it is precisely for this reason that this book serves as such a
valuable contribution. This book offers one of the unique studies on
such experiences from the perspective of mainstream modern psychology
and is published by the APA, the main organ of mainstream psychology.
As such, this book gives some legitimacy to experiences and theories
that have previously been ignored or denied. As the editors maintain
however, if one is to offer a comprehensive psychology as William
James suggested, then one must provide a study of all human experience
including those experiences which are deemed anomalous. This book
offers exactly such a study.
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Serious, trustworth writing., February 15, 2010
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Texts and Contexts (4th Edition) (Paperback)
~ Steven Jay Lynn (Author)
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1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Clever but too simplfied, July 2, 2007
By Lit. Prof. (Lima, Ohio) -

I assigned this book in an undergraduate course that included an
introduction to critical theory. The book is cleverly written and is
intended to be accessible. It features sample analyses for each of the
theoretical approaches, and keeps things light with occasional jokes
and cartoons, which help keep theory from being intimidating. Indeed,
the book is frequently entertaining. It outlines six major schools of
literary criticism (New Criticism, Reader-Response, Deconstruction,
Psychological criticism and gender criticism), and the chapters are
well-organized. The front cover features a useful set of summaries for
each approach: its assumptions, practices, and typical questions. All
this is good. I found, however, that the book is so intent on
summarizing the theories briefly and clearly that it oversimplifies
and leaves out important points. I therefore found myself filling in
the gaps and sending my students to supplementary readings from other
textbooks that I had NOT adopted and had instead put on reserve as
supplementary readings (Lois Tyson's Critical Theory Today and Charles
Bressler's Literary Criticism: An Introduction to Literary Theory and
Practice). So I'm back to looking for a text for my class. I would
recommend Lynn's book as a back-up (the way I used Tyson and Bressler)
and as brush-up reading for people who already have some background in
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Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology (Paperback)
~ Scott O. Lilienfeld Phd (Editor), Steven Jay Lynn Phd (Editor),
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36 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
Well researched, balanced, and provocative, January 31, 2003
By Eric G. Mart (Manchester, NH United States) -

This review is from: Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology
(Hardcover)
This edited volume contains chapters which provide critical analysis
of a variety of important subjects in clinical psychology. Lillienfeld
et al take a hard look at general issues such as diagnosis and
treatment as well as specific issues including New Age treatments for
psychological disorders and tests and personality measures. It also
examines other subjects such as controversial interventions for ADHD,
trauma and autism. The book will spark a great deal of argument and
some outrage, since there are a lot of oxen and sacred cows being
gored therein. But it is long past time that the yawning chasm between
science and clinical practice was addressed, and this volume does an
admirable job. I recommend this book to all thoughtful clinicans, as
well as general readers with an interest in clinical psychology. Help
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14 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
Well written, but may be missing something., December 27, 2006
By Bookworm -

This review is from: Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology
(Hardcover)
As a psychologist who is aware of some of the questionable research
and clinical practices in psychology I read this book with interest.
Many of the chapters were interesting and the criticisms valid. I was
disappointed, however, that a book that claims to debunk pseudoscience
seemed to have a major blindspot. For example Waschbusch and Hill's
chapter examines treatments for ADHD without reference to the
controversy that exists about the validity of ADHD as a
neurobiological syndrome. There is debate about the unscientific
manner in which groups of nonspecifc behaviours are named as
syndromes, in the absence of any physical evidence. Discussing
treatments for these "disorders" without mentioning this at all seems
a glaring oversight in a book that devotes so much attention to issues
of diagnosis and assessment and claims to expose pseudosicence. It
hardly takes courage or insight to criticise the fringe elements, but
what about blatant pseudoscientific practices carried out by
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
Timely exploration of controversial topics, November 1, 2006
By Karen Franklin "Forensic Psychologist" (El Cerrito, CA, USA)
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Why do clinicians keep practicing forms of therapy that lack
scientific support?

This edited book explores the widening gap between scientists and
practitioners in the field of clinical psychology. It covers many of
the most pressing controversies surrounding diagnosis, treatment
methods, specific disorders, and the self-help movement.

It is well written and exceptionally balanced. I recommend it highly
to my clinical psychology graduate students, but I think it is also
valuable for practicing clinicians and for other people who are
interested in the specific topics covered, including recovered memory
therapy, autism treatment, ADHD, new age therapies, multiple
personality disorder (aka dissociative identity disorder), trauma
treatment, herbal antidepressants, and - one of my favorite chapters -
substance abuse recovery. Help other customers find the most helpful
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
Clarity, November 6, 2006
By A. Montgomery (Victoria, Australia) -

Although largely aware of the plethora of pseudoscientific nonsence
that besets the field of mental health, it is very refreshing to have
this collation of information brought together in one volume. As a
clinical psycholgist I am confronted daily by people who have been
referred to purveyors of unscientific, and often damaging,
"interventions". All too frequently, these people have been referred
to such snake-oil sellers by mental health professionals -
psychologists, psychaitrists, medical doctors etc. This book, and
hopefully further editions of it, should be compulsory reading for
everyone seeking to work in the mental health and forensic fields.
Only by truly embracing scientific methodology and an unremitting
scepticism can we hope to move forward in understanding mental health
and criminal problems. Our patients, their families, and the public
deserve no less.

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32 of 45 people found the following review helpful:
A must read, March 15, 2003
By A Customer

This review is from: Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology
(Hardcover)
I am finishing my Ph.D. in psychology this year, and this is a
definate read for anyone in the field, espececially those who are
considering persuing a career in psych. This book has confimed my long-
standing fears as a graduate student: That there is much non-science
in the field of psych and the profession is openly hostile to those
that say so, while at the same time donning the semantically garb of
"scientist". The truth is there is very little science in psych these
days, and it is psychology's "dirty little secret". Help other
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15 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
A Must Read for People on Both Sides, February 6, 2004
By Monica Pignotti (Tallahassee, FL, United States) -

This review is from: Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology
(Hardcover)
In the preface, the editors noted that this book will make a lot of
people angry, especially proponents of the therapies being critiqued
in this book. While this is undoubtedly true for many such proponents,
I think it would be a serious mistake for such people to dismiss what
is being said in this book. I am one of the top practitioners of
Thought Field Therapy and found this book to be of tremendous value
and feel gratitude, not anger towards its authors. Having explored
many of the controversial, new therapies, I know better than anyone
the pitfalls and hazards of drifting into pseudoscience and quite
frankly, have repeatedly been dismayed at what I have seen in terms of
a complete inability to engage in critical thinking on the part of
many people involved in the endless array of "alternative" therapies.
Much of the problem, I believe, comes from ignorance of the principles
outlined in this book. The list of features of pseudosciences is
especially helpful and should be read and carefully considered by all
proponents of unconventional approaches. In this way, as Carl Sagan
puts it, "deep truths can be winnowed from deep nonsense". This book
should be required reading in graduate schools, as well as courses
that train people in any of these controversial, new approaches and I
intend to incorporate this into what I teach. Help other customers
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10 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
The "James Randi" of Psychology, April 24, 2005
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Lilienfield does a bang-up job debunking some of the long-held myths
in Clinical Psychology. Don't allow that to lead you to conclusion
that this book is about bashing the Science of Psychology, however!
Clinical Psychology is something quite different from the evidence-
based side of the field, and this book illustrated that it is infested
with more pseudo-science than science. That's partly because such a
large percentage of the public has no critical thinking skills, and
cannot see the difference between self-help nonsense and real science.
Lilienfield does a good job helping us start on the road toward
discerning the snake oil from the medicine.

It's almost laughable that one reviewer showers this book with
accolades while also touting herself as a top expert in yet another
pseudo-scientific "therapy," Thought Field Therapy. Lilienfield et al.
actually cover that idiocy in this marvelous book, pointing out that
there's no such thing as "thought fields," and no validity to the
notion that TFT has any effect on mental or physical health! Like the
great Investigator of the Supernatural, James Randi, Scott O.
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27 of 29 people found the following review helpful:
A must-have mythbuster!

After reading the editorial reviews on this book, I decided to
purchase a copy. It is a treasure trove of examples of behavior and
myths that we believe to be true - but are actually false. Written by
psychologists and based on science, this book describes the most
common myths that people hold about a variety of human experiences.
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28 of 54 people found the following review helpful:
superficial and misleading

Unfortunately this book is a rather sad attempt to "bust" some events
that psychologists and psychiatrists currently disagree about. both
sides can raise literature that supports their viewpoint. Novices
lacking substantial experience can easily be misled by some statements
contained here that are in themselves inaccurate and poorly analyzed.
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27 of 29 people found the following review helpful:
A must-have mythbuster!, October 3, 2009
By Reader "NY" (New York) -

After reading the editorial reviews on this book, I decided to
purchase a copy. It is a treasure trove of examples of behavior and
myths that we believe to be true - but are actually false. Written by
psychologists and based on science, this book describes the most
common myths that people hold about a variety of human experiences.
For example, does handwriting reveal your personality? Does playing
Mozart to infants boost their intelligence? Do opposites attract? Is
the polygraph really an accurate means of detecting dishonesty? If you
think the answer to any of these questions, is "yes," you need to read
this book. I couldn't put it down as I went from myth to myth learning
about the facts based on science versus the myths we have believed for
decades. I agree with the reviewer who says that this is a much-needed
mythbuster for consumers. Easy-to-read and fascinating facts! I
couldn't put it down. Highly recommended, a must-have mythbuster! Help
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20 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
Timely publication!, October 12, 2009
By David K. Hogberg (Albion, MI) -

Although I have been long retired from teaching (psychology), Scott's
book makes me wish to return to the classroom. There can never be too
much urging to become or remain critical in one's thinking about the
outlandish claims that've been made over the years about what
psychology is not. I recommend 50 Great Myths to people who have read
only little or a lot about what people do when they behave. DKH

19 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
Instant Classic, November 6, 2009
By Jerry Haeffel (Notre Dame, IN) -

There are now two books that every psychology undergraduate (and
graduate) student should be required to read and own -- Stanovich's
"How to Think Straight about Psychology" and this book. This book is a
ray of hope during a (frightening) time when subjective experience is
favored over objective/empirical data. Chalk one up for science. Help
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10 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
Psychology 101 Redux, November 30, 2009
By Brandon Schultz -

There are two very impressive aspects of this book: 1) the types of
"myths" that the authors tackle, and 2) the quality of their
literature reviews. On the first point, I was excited to see the
authors make strong evidence-based critiques of the Alcoholics
Anonymous model of addictions treatment, the long-term effects of
childhood sexual abuse, the autism 'epidemic,' and others. It would
have been easy to write another 'skeptics diary' of obvious
psychomythology (e.g., phrenology, ESP, etc), but the authors really
stick their necks out in some instances. On the second point, the
authors' conclusions are well-supported by the research they cite. As
a school psychologist, I was impressed to see a very thoughtful
handling of the research on so-called 'learning styles,' for example.
I've not seen a better handling of this topic in any book meant for
mass consumption, and this section alone was worth the purchase. So
overall, I would describe the book as a very well-written Psychology
101 Redux that debunks a lot of common misconceptions.

However, I would take issues with a few of the "Other Myths to
Explore" at the end of the chapters, which could be easily
misinterpreted. For example, on page 63 the authors claim that
"children with extremely high IQs have much higher levels of creative
accomplishment in adulthood than other children." While this is
generally correct, it ignores research showing that 'extremely' high
IQs do not predict the next Einsteins or Lincolns. In Lewis Terman's
famous study, his high IQ group did very well into adulthood, but not
up to Terman's predictions of greatness--in fact, most turned out to
be very average adults. Such 'nuggets' at the end of the chapters are
a little too concise, and this is why I give the book 4 stars rather
than 5.

And if the authors are reading, I recommend the following myths for
future editions:

Stimulant use in childhood increases the risk of addictions in
adulthood

ADHD is caused by video games and excessive television viewing

It is easy for criminals to fake mental retardation in order to avoid
the death penalty
Boys are more aggressive than girls

"Wilderness Programs" are highly effective for juvenile delinquents

The DARE program is very effective in reducing/preventing drug use

Adolescents with jobs are less likely than their unemployed peers to
engage in risky behavior

Child abuse is much more common now than ever before

I could go on, but I'll stop there. The point is, even though
psychology is a 'soft science,' there are issues around which
consensus has been built. Yet, many misonceptions still exist. Indeed,
many readers unfamiliar with the field may find some of the authors'
conclusions controversial (autism and the MMR vaccine leaps to mind),
but the research evidence to the contrary is very compelling. This
book does a great job explaining how. Help other customers find the
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
What we might want to believe, February 2, 2010
By Edward M. Freeman "Ioannis Edward M. Freeman" (Miami, Florida)
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Myths, like memory, can reconstruct events for ceremony and solace. In
its cultural or religious sense, myth can serve as transformer. That
is not the sense of myth utilized in this book.

In this book, a myth is a false and misleading conclusion, which urban
legend supports despite evidence to the contrary. The purpose of this
book is to present evidence to the contrary, still encouraging readers
to decide for themselves. I appreciated an authorial tone of respect
for readers throughout the book. Along the way, however, the book does
more. It also questions the motives of myth extenders--the people who
benefit by keeping the myths alive.

Hapless myth extenders for 50 urban legends have been exposed. Of
course, some of these myth extenders have built empires on charisma
and mumbo-jumbo. However, who among us has never been an unwitting
accomplice to the charade? Not I.

I have participated by having made conjectures contrary with myths
that these esteemed authors collected, analyzed and exposed in this
book. After I had become aware that I should check my sources before I
spoke a next time, I should have identified a questionable conclusion
with more scruple in speech. The value of this book in my opinion is
that it collects 50 prominent myths, and raises sufficient caution in
evidence that the book taught me academic humility again. Evidence
speaks louder than charisma and mumbo-jumbo.

5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
A must read book for all intelligent people, November 25, 2009
By D. Gerzon (Paramus, NJ United States) -

I want to say that this book was like a breath of fresh air in the
ocean of "garbage" that is constantly unleashed on all of us in today.
It seems that almost anybody with access to a computer can write a
book today with dubious claims that takes time and efforts to avoid.
So it was with great pleasure that when I finally got my hands on this
book I felt once again that there are still healthy and sane people
around me who do care for scientific facts. I got recommendation for
this book from newsletter sent by Stephen Barrett, M.D from [...] and
as always I was not disappointed.

You would think that books like that would become a must read not only
for adults but for teens and young adults who just start their lives
and are very receptive to all this popular psychology that flies
around. I would insist that both my children (8 and 13) read this book
and discuss it with us. It's very important for us as parents to teach
our children to be able to distinguish the pop-psychology from
scientific facts. But most importantly I want my children to
understand that some of those myths can be not so innocent and can
create real damage.

So 5 stars for this book are well deserved. Thank you. Help other
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
A dose of science, February 1, 2010
By Max Polun (Hamilton, NJ USA) -

All too often the popular perception of psychology has been clouded by
a great many myths, misconceptions and outright falsehood. This book
give a dose of what the current mainstream scientific views are on a
great number of subjects (the 50 myths are just the ones that are
explained, each chapter has a list of short items that are given 1
sentence answers). The book honestly points out where legitimate
controversy still exists, but most of the myths discussed are not
particularly controversial. The only thing keeping it from perfection
is a somewhat dry style, that may keep it from being the best for the
general audience.

A good read for anyone with an interest in science or psychology, but
not necessarily any formal psychological training. Help other
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
Required Reading1, December 23, 2009
By D. Flaten -

This book should be required reading for anyone currently or proposing
to go into education. It forces us to take another look at current
misconceptions that may affect our teaching and other educational
services. Every statement is supported by research. The book included
an extensive list of sources. Read it slowly and enjoy. Help other
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2 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
A fine pick for any psychology collection, January 12, 2010
By Midwest Book Review (Oregon, WI USA) -

50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology offers both students of
psychology and consumers a fine book discussing science and everyday
psychology. It offers facts and pinpoints fallacies about psychology,
debunking popular myths and presenting evidence that also explains why
people come to believe in these falsehoods. It's a fine pick for any
psychology collection. Help other customers find the most helpful
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28 of 54 people found the following review helpful:
superficial and misleading, January 26, 2010
By royal see "roman" (missoula) -

Unfortunately this book is a rather sad attempt to "bust" some events
that psychologists and psychiatrists currently disagree about. both
sides can raise literature that supports their viewpoint. Novices
lacking substantial experience can easily be misled by some statements
contained here that are in themselves inaccurate and poorly analyzed.
Take for example hypnosis. While hypnosis does not register as delta
wave sleep or even rem sleep, yet anyone who has deep experience with
the phenomenon knows that it is not alpha nor beta wave wakefulness as
wakefulness is normally defined. in fact deeper hypnotic states
contain more theta waves akin to deep meditative states that are not
sleep yet are not exactly normal wakefulness. hundreds of EEGS have
been conducted on hypnotized and deeply meditating subjects that show
little alpha or beta.this is enough to bust the mythbusters myth. Then
again when hypnosis is properly conducted with the right subject the
bodily physiological changes and heightened susceptibility to
suggestions is unmistakable. While people may snap out of a deep state
if asked to violate a personal value, yet with proper manipulation
people can do rather strange things they would normally never do.

Lets bust another of this silly books myths.The book claims that anger
is not too helpful and it is but a catharsis.It seems that whoever
wrote this does not exactly seem to comprehend that anger is a
biological evolutionary organismic state that serves a function in
most common species.While some individuals use anger as a defense
against deeper hurts in an inappropriate and sometimes unhealthy
manner, i speak of rage-aholics who derive no benefit from raging
other than a "catharsis",...yet for many others expressing anger can
constitute a breakthrough in their healing.The expression needs to be
expressed in a non harmful way perhaps in one's privacy or in session
away from the target of the anger. When expressed genuinely and as a
reaction to some hurt or neglect or other abuse, anger will no longer
be a "catharsis" per se rather it will be a well formed well expressed
affect, emotion or feeling in therapy jargon and it can have a healing
effect especially if connected to the underlying hurt.
Another myth this book creates is the view that memory is only
reconstructive and hence the implication is that it most probably is
tainted by later cognitions perceptions and errors. This smells to me
like the unholy controversy about uncovered or repressed memories.
This controversy is not scientific and never was. Anyone who has
worked deeply with simple and traumatic memories recognizes that BOTH
kinds of memories are available either via visual remembrances or body
movement in addition to the more common verbal thought memories.
Moreover any scientifically disciplined worker with memory research
will tell you that while reconstructive memories may be prone to
interferences and errors yet other deeper memories are almost like
recordings. One of my patients uncovered a conversation with her
deceased dad at age two or so where he tells here about a suitcase
buried under a sofa in the old house that was currently occupied by a
relative. The patient had enough courage to check her revelation, took
permission to look at the recalled location and found a case with
parting letters to her explaining the conditions of her adoption. a
letter to an uncle, a handgun and 2 kilos of gold jewelry belonging to
her deceased at birth mother! The woman had no previous recollection
of any of this at any point in her life. she was in her early forties
when this emerged. I provide this as one of dozens of anecdotes in
only one practice,where the patient rediscovered verbatim previously
unknown things. A male patient in his thirties wailing non verbally in
terror and contorting his body in typical birth movements of the legs
torso head and neck pointed to his temples suggesting pain there
accompanying the deep fear. After working with him for a while ,he
relaxed and reached a closure but was not sure what his body was
reliving. He was asked to have his mother call me. asked about a
complicated delivery , she was stunned affirming that the head would
simply not emerge for painfully excessive stretches of time. She asked
how i had known and and was surprised even further when asked if
forceps extraction had been used extensively.Again she was stunned and
admitted that no one knew this but the forceps had been used very
intensely and the baby had almost died , that he cried constantly for
over a week. To any clinician experienced enough to recognize a body -
expressed memory, this would be a bullet through the heart of this
book's memory myth. We have just busted the busters again. And to nail
the coffin of that myth ,there is EEG work plus SPECT scan imaging
showing unusual and uncommon brainwave and brain activity patterns
when deep accurate memories emerge indicating a special theta -delt-
beta combination of brainwaves when this happens, a highly unusual
mixture in perfectly normal brained people who are actually re living
mind and body an old usually traumatic situation.

I highly recommend the title"pseudoscience in biological psychiatry"
in addition to "the love that wasnt" and "blaming the brain" amongst
other works to allow the layman and the serious and aspiring therapist
not to be mislead by superficial attempts like this reviewed title
sometime making sweeping statements based on one or two measly studies
to attempt to disprove perhaps a hundred years of solid clinical
experience. Rather sad. I will use an example from nutrition to
demonstrate that studies are deceptive and frequently twisted to back
up ones own subjective opinion. In the case of vitamin C, one pathetic
study came out saying that 200 milligrams daily was more than enough
and another said that 500 is the redline for humans. The media ran
this one disparaging study and people started fearing vitamin C. What
the foolish media did not tell everyone was that there were upwards of
13000 (that's correct thirteen thousand ) studies globally
demonstrating the safety and effectiveness of vitamin C for humans
including megadoses of 10-20000mgs per day and even more if given IV.
Interestingly, a sober statistical research of scientific and medical
articles showed that in only a few years after publication and
universal acceptance as scientific truths, approximately 60 percent
prove to be worthless,either outright faked or erroneous in execution
and interpretation.60 percent of what science and medicine believe
today will metamorphose into worthless garbage in a few years.
Shamefully sad. i believe this book is one of these silly superficial
books that may mean good and sounds scientific here and there but in
the end tends to propagate its own myths. I fear the emperor has no
clothes!

To be fair ,my evaluation was based on partial reading of the contents
and thus the book may possibly contain some acceptable material along
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Very interesting, November 14, 2009
By Diana "dazed and confused" (Las Vegas, nv USA) - See all my
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21 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
Delivers what it says....
I used this book (actually the 3rd edition) in preparing for my
comprehensive exams for my master's degree. The title is descriptive.
The book is short excerpts of key writings on the organization theory.
The selection of readings is appropriate. The only complaint I have is
that sometimes I wished I had the complete book in question! On the
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1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
Boring
This is a very boring and dry read. The print is small and the
chapters are long. I had a hard time reading even portions of this.
Get it at the library if you have to read this book for a class.

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Delivers what it says...., March 14, 2000
By M. Broderick "mikebinok" (Oklahoma City, OK USA) -

I used this book (actually the 3rd edition) in preparing for my
comprehensive exams for my master's degree. The title is descriptive.
The book is short excerpts of key writings on the organization theory.
The selection of readings is appropriate. The only complaint I have is
that sometimes I wished I had the complete book in question! On the
other hand, some of this stuff is really dry. If you are pursuing the
field in an academic way, this is a valuable book. But I can't imagine
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Somewhat Boring, but Necessary, November 20, 2009
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The first 45 pages of this book were extremely BORING! Once you get
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Org Mgt, November 16, 2009
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This book is the same book that was suggested on my syllabus for my
graduate Management Theory class, but was a whole lot cheaper online!
It arrived in a very timely mannner - and its soft cover!

The introductons are the best because it overs a clear overview of the
each section - some of the outdated writing of the articles can be a
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Dense, but well worth the read, October 30, 2009
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If you want to know what was, and how we got to where we are today,
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great transaction, September 22, 2009
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Boring, March 23, 2009
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Good reference book, June 29, 2008
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dull, dull, dull, April 16, 2007
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Monday, February 22, 2010
There's a Trojan in the EVM!

A Surya Prakash
The Pioneer
Tuesday, February 23, 2010

The debate on the integrity of the electoral process when electronic
voting machines are used to cast votes got a fillip recently when a
group of concerned citizens organised workshops in New Delhi and
Chennai and invited some international experts who have played a part
in the abolition of electronic voting in some countries of Europe and
in a majority of the States in the US.

Among these experts was Mr Rop Gonggrijp, a computer hacker from the
Netherlands who hacked a machine on a live television show and became
instrumental in the banning of EVMs in his country; Mr Alex
Halderman, professor of computer science at the University of
Michigan and an authority on electronic voting security; and, Mr Till
Jaeger, the attorney who argued against the use of EVMs before the
German Federal Constitutional Court leading to the order banning of
these machines in Germany. The Indian viewpoint on the vulnerability
of EVMs was offered by Mr Hari Prasad, a noted 'hactivist' from
Hyderabad, who first raised the red flag about the integrity of the
EVM-based election process.

According to Mr Gonggrijp and Mr Halderman, EVMs can be tampered with
either at the manufacturing stage or when they are stored in State
capitals for deployment in elections or at the polling booths. They
are convinced that Indian EVMs are no different from those that were
deployed in the Netherlands, Germany or Ireland, before they were
discarded in those countries. One of the ways to rig an election is
to introduce a Trojan in the display section of the control unit.
This chip would give 'fixed' results on the EVM screen. In other
words, whatever the voters' preference, the control unit would
display numbers as per the hacker's plan.

Mr Gonggrijp is a prominent campaigner for election transparency and
verifiability, and his technical opinion appears to have clinched the
issue against electronic voting in Germany as well. "When the vote
count happens inside a machine and there is no way in which the
result can be cross-checked, the election ceases to be transparent,"
he says. The lack of transparency appears to be the Achilles heel of
electronic voting. Nobody knows what goes on inside these machines.
This is the point on which the German Constitutional Court has held
the deployment of EVMs as un-constitutional. It says the Constitution
emphasises the public nature of elections and requires all essential
steps to be open to public scrutiny.

While all these experts are categorical in their rejection of
electronic voting devices, EVMs enjoy a great deal of credibility and
public trust in India. This is so because the campaign about the
unreliability of these machines is yet to get off the ground.
However, politicians of various hues appear to be wary of these
machines and have even accused rivals of 'manipulating' them, albeit
without a shred of evidence to establish mischief.

However, there are those like Mr Hari Prasad who have been demanding
that the Election Commission offer opportunities for them to
demonstrate the vulnerability of EVMs. The EC initially went along
with the idea but developed cold feet and abruptly stopped one such
exercise by Mr Prasad and his colleagues last September. Why did the
EC back out?

Two other Indians who have plunged into this campaign are Mr
Subramanian Swamy, whose petition against EVMs is currently before
the Delhi High Court, and Mr GVL Narasimha Rao, election analyst and
author of Democracy at Risk -- Can We Trust Our Electronic Voting
Machines?. This book outlines the story of EVMs in India, Europe and
the US, and describes how the non-response of the EC to questions
raised by Mr Gonggrijp and Mr Hari Prasad has contributed in no small
measure to the growing concern in political parties about the
reliability of voting machines.

According to Mr Rao, among those who have raised doubts about EVMs
are Mr LK Advani, leader of the BJP, Mr Ghulam Nabi Azad, Union
Minister and Congress leader who attributed his party's defeat in
Odisha last year to "manipulation" of EVMs, Mr Prakash Karat, general
secretary of the CPI(M), Mr Sharad Yadav, president of the JD(U), Mr
Mulayam Singh Yadav, president of the SP, Ms Mamata Bannerjee,
president of Trinamool Congress, Mr Chandrababu Naidu, leader of the
Telugu Desam, Ms Jayalalithaa, leader of the AIADMK, and leaders of
the Pattali Makkal Katchi. One look at this list and you realise that
there is a doubting Thomas everywhere -- in every one of the three
known national coalitions and in different regions.

Mr Karat has formally written to the EC. He has said there are
several questions in regard to the reliability of EVMs. Among them
are: Possibility of incorporating a Trojan in the chip; possibility
of manipulation of the chip at the manufacturing stage; lack of EC
control over the technical process; and lack of third party
inspection. He has said the EC must control the manufacture of EVMs,
allow third party inspection and randomly shift EVMs from State to
State.

After talking to experts, Mr Rao lists eight situations in which EVMs
can be rigged. The EC has sought to counter these arguments by saying
that the Indian EVMs are standalone machines which are not part of
any network. Therefore, any surmise based on operating system based
EVMs would be completely erroneous.

These arguments have been countered by Mr Ulrich Wiesner, a physicist
and software engineer, who was the petitioner before the
Constitutional Court in Germany. In a statement that is part of the
rejoinder affidavit filed by Mr Swamy in the Delhi High Court, Mr
Wiesner has said that EVMs in the Netherlands, Germany and Ireland
were also standalone machines with no connection to the Internet. He
says, "It is common sense that someone who has sufficient access to
open the machines and replace the software or hardware can implement
virtually any functionality . . . that would not be spotted by
tests."

The EC is a public body with a fat budget. If it is to command the
confidence of all stake-holders in the democratic process, it must
function in a transparent manner and answer the questions raised by
these citizens and experts. The inflexible and non-transparent
attitude of the commission is lending credence to the argument that
possibly it has no answers or, worse, it has something to hide.

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Subject: A NOTE ON MUSHRIF'S BOOK 'WHO KILLED KARKARE?' *** Jai
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A note on Mushrif's book "Who killed Karkare?"
Sunday, January 10, 2010

Forwarded message from A Chowgule

In October 2009, Pharos Media Publishing Pvt Ltd published a book by
SM Mushrif entitled "Who killed Karkare?". Mushrif retired as the
Inspector General of Police, Maharashtra, in 2005, apparently before
he was due to officially leave the police force. What the back cover
of the book says is quite instructive:

"Political violence, or terrorism, by State as well as by non- State
actors has a long history in India. The allegation that sections of
and individual Indian Muslims indulged in "terrorism" surfaced for
the first time with the ascent of the Hindutva forces in mid-1990s
and became state policy with the BJP's coming to power at the Centre.
With even "secular" media joining the role as stenographers of
security agencies, this became an accepted fact so much so that
common Indians and even many Muslims started believing in this false
propaganda. This book, by a former senior police officer, with a
distinguished career that included unearthing the Telgi scam, peeps
behind the propaganda screen, using material mostly in the public
domain as well as his long police experience. It comes out with some
startling facts and analysis, the first of its kind, to expose the
real actors behind the so-called "Islamic terrorism" in India whose
greatest feat was to murder the Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare
who dared to expose these forces and paid with his life for his
courage and commitment to truth. While unearthing the conspiracy
behind the murder of Karkare, this book takes a hard look at some of
the major incidents attributed to "Islamic terrorism" in India and
finds them baseless."

Essentially the contention of Mushrif is that terrorism in the name
of Islam is a fiction, and what we are seeing in India is actually
violence being organised by 'Hindutva forces'. The book also
contends that there are what are called Brahminical elements in the
nation at various level, whose objective is to capture the state
power by any means.

It would seem that various events conspired to expose these
'Brahminists' whose plan for domination of India was unravelling.
The investigation into the alleged acts of terrorism by Sadhvi Pragya
Singh and Lt Col Shrikant Purohit was the main point which was in the
process of turning the needle of suspicion to these 'Brahmanical'
forces, and so put an end to their 'evil' programme. These
investigations were led by Hemant Karkare who was, at the time of his
death, the head of the Anti-Terrorist Squad in Maharashtra.

Mushrif contends that the terrorist attack on November 26, 2008,
provided the 'Brahmanical' forces an opportunity to reverse these
events. It would seem that two or three days prior the intelligence
agencies in Maharshtra had specific information that some
organisations in Pakistan had firmed up plans to send terrorist by
boat to Mumbai, with the targets being the Taj Mahal Hotel, the
Oberoi hotels, the Leopold Café and the Nariman House. Instead of
increasing the security to the city, and so thwart the plans of these
Paksitani organisations, the 'Brahmanical' forces devised a plan to
use the opportunity to kill Karkare and so stop the line of
investigation that he was pursuing.

Mushrif contends that these terrorists had no intention of striking
at the Chattrapati Shivaji Terminus, one of the main railway station
in Mumbai. The ones who conducted these attacks were individuals
provided by the 'Brahmanical' forces in the police. It would seem
that the 'Brahmanical' forces in the police have a stock of such
people in their control, who can be unleashed to create mayhem at
their beck and call. Through various stratagems, Karkare was enticed
to go to Cama Hospital near the railway station, where he was
ambushed by the two 'terrorists' from the police stock.

After this, according the plan, these two 'terrorists' apparently
fled in a car, which was also part of the 'armoury' available to the
'Brahmanical' forces in the police - Mushrif contends that the
hijacking story by the 'alleged' owner of the car is fake one. The
police force waiting at Chowaptty had information that the car was
heading in their direction, and they were instructed to kill one of
the two and keep the other alive, so as to provide 'evidence'
pointing out that the act was actually a part of Islamic terrorism.

In such involved situations, all things do happen as planned, and
both the 'terrorists' were killed. However, there was a contingency
plan in place, and a third individual from the stock was provided to
take the place of the person who was to survive.

As conspiracy theories go, this must surely take the cake. That the
'Brahmanical' forces in the police can come out with such an
elaborate plan in a matter of two days would make these people to be
highly innovative. Furthermore, the 'revelation' that the police
have people in stock to undertake such activities must be seen as a
source of deep worry.

What I would like to deal in this note is not to evaluate the
'startling facts and analysis' provided by Mushrif, but the
implications that would automatically follow if Mushrif is right.

First, Mohammed Ajmal Kasab is innocent, and that it is incumbent on
his defence lawyer to present the book in the court. He was not part
of the original team of two who created the mayhem at the railway
station, nor was he even remotely involved in the killing of Karkare.
He was put in place, only by accident - that is the original two were
killed, one by design and the other inadvertently.

Second, the conspiracy of the 'Brahmanical' forces should be
thourougly investigated. The various members of the 'civil society'
who forever rant against such 'Brahmanical' forces are silent on the
issue, given that the book has been in print for three months. Even
now it is not too late for the members to take up the cause of Kasab.
These members are always on the look out to establish what they call
their 'secular' credentials, and are in the forefront of projecting
themselves as defenders and benefactors of the Muslim community in
India.

Thridly, Pakistan should highlight 'startling facts and analysis' at
international forums. It is probably the best ammunition that it has
to establish its claimed innocence.

It would also be interesting to narrate what are the implications if
Mushrif is wrong.

First, obviously Mushrif has allowed himself to be a tool in the
hands of forces whose interests are not inimical to the well-being of
our nation.

Second, the role of the publishers in printing all this should also
be investigated. I understand that the book has been printed in Urdu
and Hindi, obviously to try and influence the minds of the Muslims in
India, and so increase their alienation.

Thirdly, the silence of the 'concerned society' has to be
investigated. They are forever looking out for opportunities to
condemn the various Hindu organisations at the drop of a hat.

Mushrif's book is, in more sense than one, a dynamite. It cannot be
allowed to go into obscurity by the society, if the institutions that
are an integral part of keeping it sane are to function in the way
they should. No one can be allwed to mess around with them.

End of forwarded message from A Chowgule

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Forwarded message from K Malhotra

JSK. Ignoring the facts; assuming things, spreading false and
baseless reports; and above-all protecting and supporting terrorists
makes Mushriff himself a terrorist? He should be sued and arrested.
JSK.

End of forwarded message from K Malhotra


Forwarded message from Vranivanji
Sunday, January 10, 2010

One can't find a better example of Al Taqiyya. This fine muslim --
Mushrif beats even ChaNakya!!!

End of forwarded message from Vranivanji

Forwarded message from M Iyer
Sunday, January 10, 2010

world over, there are worries about islamic terrorism. we must know
who is behind the publishing house and what are Mushrif's connection.
yes, he is right - the kashmiri muslims who massacred and ethnic
cleansed pandits, are brahmins. pakistani muslims who indulged in
genocide of hindus, are brahmins. bangladeshi muslims who indulged
in genocide of hindus, are brahmins. afzal guru, kasab, musharaf,
zardari, are, brahmins. the muslims who ruled us for 700 years were
brahmins - at that time, they committed the greatest genocide of
hindus - 100 million hindus were massacred. muslim invaders thought
that by killing brahmins, they could destroy hinduism. so, the
muslims killed maximum number of brahmin priests. the funny thing,
the invaders were brahmins who killed fellow brahmins. the invading
muslims - sorry brahmins, destroyed thousands and thousands of hindu
temples.

you all remember a posting - that Saudi people paid some 10 million
dollars to two top channelists of India, to cover only the muslim
side of the gujarat riots. all of you know, how the coverage was.

it is quite possible that the government to avoid criticism, may have
encouraged the publication of such a book..in India, anybody can
write anything and get away with it.remember, the entire media is in
the hands of minorities and their coverage is always anti-hindu and
anti-india.the Italian led, UPA is bent upon destroying hindu
renaissance by floating theories like saffron terror, hindu terror,
right wing terror and now brahminical terror.

see the fun - with one purohit and a lady sanyasin, mushrif says that
it is brahminical conspiracy. he desserves a nobel, a pulitzer and a
booker.

End of forwarded message from M Iyer

Forwarded message from Ishwa
Sunday, January 10, 2010

I couldn't suppress a big smile when reading the whole note, here a
selection:

"Essentially the contention of Mushrif is that terrorism in the name
of Islam is a fiction, and what we are seeing in India is actually
violence being organised by 'Hindutva forces'."

"The book also contends that there are what are called Brahminical
elements in the nation at various level, whose objective is to
capture the state power by any means."

"The investigation into the alleged acts of terrorism by Sadhvi
Pragya Singh and Lt Col Shrikant Purohit was the main point which was
in the process of turning the needle of suspicion to these
'Brahmanical' forces, and so put an end to their 'evil' programme.
These investigations were led by Hemant Karkare who was, at the time
of his death, the head of the Anti-Terrorist Squad in Maharashtra."

"Instead of increasing the security to the city, and so thwart the
plans of these Paksitani organisations, the 'Brahmanical' forces
devised a plan to use the opportunity to kill Karkare and so stop the
line of investigation that he was pursuing." etc.

This last allegation is the biggest joke of the whole writing.
Instead of nailing and punishing the obvious AtankvAdIs, the blame is
put on others. , now was this also planned by "Hindutva forces" or
"Brahminical elements"?

How stupid and amateurish can an ATS managing team be, to go with
three leaders in one car, and that at a terroristic attack. This is
an invitation to trouble. What was Karkare thinking? He showed his
""(in)capability" and "ir)responsibility then. A laughing stock
internationally!

The role of the ATS, their connections/interacions with the leading
national and local political parties and how they treated Pragya and
Purohit has raised many eye brows.

What's new with these allegations. That someone really cares to take
this serious is something to wonder about.

The aim of Mushrif is obvious when he says that "terrorism in the
name of islam is a fiction". Let's forget the native Dawood
Ibrahims....or one has to see in him an (i)Brahimin. Does Mushrif
where a Chador before his eyes here? There goes his credibility.

His next move is also obvious, the scape goat has to be found with
the "Hindutva forces". Now, which politically motivated groups have
problems with any "Hindu(tva) forces"?

Not completely happy with that, the further focus has to be on the
"Brahminical elements". The line of thinking will bring you to the
right direction of groups who are targetting these "elements". And
let's accept, these "elements" are the traditional scape goats from
the colonial period on, with getting even support from some
AryasamAjIs. (sorry to say this, as my sympathy is with the great
work done by SvAmI DayAnanda SarasvatI and the Arya Samaj. But this
stereotypical "anti-Brahminical attitude" of some persons within this
group, and the misplaced appeasing and apologetic Muslim attitude of
the Agni(d)veSHas is too much.)

We don't have to look far away to find the political groups who are
supporting the theory and allegations of this book, within India and
outside.

And beware if you accuse a Pakistani citizen (as an Indian): he
cannot be a terrorist, he has a poor background or is maltreated by
Hindus and is a victim of the Indian system ......A real success
formula of the media and Muslim voter/minority. A base psychology
trick of the cold ground.

The real heroes of India are not the Karkares with their dubious
actions and affiliations, but the jawans, security personnel, etc.
They sacrificed their lifes for the nation, but corrupt police and
politicians behaving in an appeasing and vote-minded way supported by
equally corrupt media are the real supporters or stimulators behind
the success of the real actors, who happen to be most often: Muslim
terrorists.

Mushrif's Muslim motives are very clear. He lost immediately his
credibility when he didn't accept the reality of terrorism in the
name of Islam, forgetting the local Dawood Ibrahims (not to say all
the AtankVadis like the GhaznavIs, TimUrs, etc. who in the name of
Islam killed thousands of innocent citizens). And what about Afzal,
etc.?

The taboo, dogma and denial connected with Islam and Muslims to
anything that is unfavorable for that category is the real issue.
This category has real records behind their heinous deeds. The stupid
and uqually clever tactics to divert attention of their deeds to the
"Hindutva forces" and "Brahminical elements" i the result of a good
(direct or indirect) cooperation with the pseudo-secular forces.

End of forwarded message from Ishwa

Forwarded message from Ravi
Sunday, January 10, 2010

The saving grace is that Mushrif (with reluctance) acknowledges that
26/11 was a Paki operation. How magnanimous that he has not accused
the Brahminical forces. Isn't that a great concession? That proves
that he is secular :-)

Who knows? this book might be prescribed as a text for class X by
West Bengal, Kerala or other Congy governments!!!!!!!! Conspiracy
theories seems to thrive in this group. 9/11, Christmas bomber, and a
host of other Islamic terror is being white washed as Zionist (and
Brahminical) mischief.Time-pass I suppose.

End of forwarded message from Ravi


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Contents

White House acts on Jai Maharaj's recommendation, October 17, 2002

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about the reunification of south Asia

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about no war in summer, April 30, 2000

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about calm in Kargil, June 29, 1999

Prediction by Edmond Wollmann for the USA, June 27, 1999

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about military action in Kargil, June 13,
1999

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about Louise Woodward

Prediction by Jai Maharaj about Sonia Maino-Gandhi, January 27, 1998

Predictions by Edmond Wollmann based on US chart, July 4, 1997

Predictions by Edmond Wollmann for the USA, July 1998 to July 1999

Correct astrology prediction by Jai Maharaj useful to client, July 24,
1998

Inaugural message by Jai Maharaj; predictions by Chakrapani Ullal
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White House acts on Jai Maharaj's recommendation

Subject: White House acts on Jai Maharaj's recommendation
From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-
maharaj,alt.jyotish,alt.astrology,sci.astrology.hindu
Message-ID: <Jyotish-13...@news.mantra.com>
Date: 17 Oct 2002 19:23:44 UTC

The White House and other world leaders have taken advantage of the
auspicious time window I recommended five days ago:

Two items below:

o October 12, 2002 - Jai Maharaj recommends (US-Iraq)
o October 17, 2002 - U.S. Offers compromise

My previous post, posted on October 12, 2002:

Subject: Jai Maharaj recommends (US-Iraq)
From: use...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-
maharaj,alt.jyotish,alt.astrology,sci.astrology.hindu
Message-ID: <Jyotish-US-Ira...@news.mantra.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:32:09 UTC

Jai Maharaj recommends (US-Iraq)

An auspicious window for the US-Iraq situation begins at 5:40 p.m.
(HST) on October 15, 2002 and ends at 4:37 a.m. (HST) on October 18,
2002. It is this during period that I recommend that world leaders
take important steps.

HST is 10 hours behind UTC.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

The above article is archived by Google at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Jyotish-US-Iraq-1235.20021012%40news.mantra.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

Today's news:
U.S. Offers U.N. Resolution Deal

By Edith M. Lederer, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 12:42 p.m. ET (6:42 a.m. HST)

United Nations (AP) - Facing strong opposition from dozens of nations,
the United States has backed down from its demand that a new U.N.
resolution must authorize military force if Baghdad fails to cooperate
with weapons inspectors, diplomats told The Associated Press on
Thursday.

Instead, the United States is now floating a compromise which would
give inspectors a chance to test Iraq's will to cooperate on the
ground. If Iraq then failed to disarm, the Bush administration would
agree to return to the Security Council for further debate and
possibly another resolution authorizing action.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said he believes there are now
"favorable conditions" for council agreement on a resolution that will
lead to the quick return of inspectors.

The new compromise also drops tough wording explicitly threatening
Iraq upfront, although the diplomats, who spoke on condition of
anonymity, said a threat of consequences will be implied.

The diplomats said France, which has been the main stumbling block for
the United States, was studying the new offer amid a flurry of
diplomatic activity aimed at solving an impasse among the Security
Council powers on Iraq. . . .
[...]
This is only an excerpt -- read the complete news at:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20021017/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_iraq_43

Jai Maharaj
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Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

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REUNIFICATION IN THE NEWS CONSISTENT WITH PREDICTION

The following posts are archived in the Google and other archives:

Subject: REUNIFICATION: BHARAT AND PAKISTAN
From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jai-
maharaj,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,alt.jyotish,alt.politics.bush
Message-ID: <Bharat-041...@news.mantra.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Jun, 2001

Three items of interest:

o December, 1993 - India-Pakistan Reunification
- Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

o April, 1994 - Reunification appears to be a certainty
- Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

o June, 2002 - 'If Germany can unite, so can India, Pak'
- Home Minister L. K Advani

ITEM 1 - My 1993 post

[ Subject: India-Pakistan Reunification
[ From: [old e-mail address] (Jai Maharaj)
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
[ Message-ID: <2dtanh$2...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
[ Date: 5 Dec 1993 18:53:37 UTC

[ Namaskaram! and Aloha from the 50th state of the U.S. --
[ Hawaii:
[
[ I have often mentioned in this forum that nearly all
[ great Vedic astrologers in the world agree that India
[ and Pakistan will reunite shortly after the year 2,000
[ (I have presented the month and year in SCI and
[ alt.astrology in March).
[
[ What do the intellectual geniuses of SCI think how this
[ process will begin, what agreements/conditions will be
[ signed, who are the key players, will the international
[ community take part in the process, and so on . . .
[
[ -=Om Shanti=- Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ http://www.mantra.com/jai
[ Om Shanti

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ITEM 2 - My 1994 post

[ Subject: Re: India-Pakistan
[ From: [old e-mail address] (Jai Maharaj)
[ Newsgroups: alt.astrology
[ Message-ID: <2ng8pe$k...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
[ Date: 1 Apr 1994 04:43:26 UTC

[ Wrote Mahesh Nawani (naw...@netcom.com):
[> It shall be really interesting to note if any
[> progress is done by [...]
[
[ Namaste! Yes, I have also had the good fortune and
[ Parmatma's blessings to examine the possiblity of the
[ reunification of the countries in question. The
[ reunification appears to me to be a certainty soon
[ after the turn of the Gregorian century.
[
[ -=Om Shanti=- Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ http://www.mantra.com/jai
[ Om Shanti

The above post is archived by Google at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2ng8pe%24k23%40usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu&output=gplain

ITEM 3 OF 3 - Today's news

'If Germany can unite, so can India, Pak'

NEW DELHI: Home Minister L K Advani has
said if East and West Germany could unite,
there was no reason why India and Pakistan
could not form a confederation.

Indo-Pak confederation possible: Advani

PTI
The Times of India
Saturday, June 8, 2002

Indraprasth - Home Minister L K Advani has said if East
and West Germany could unite, there was no reason why
India and Pakistan could not form a confederation of
their own free will after resolving all problems through
dialogue and not by violence or terrorism.

"If East and West Germany could unite despite acrimonious
political relations, why not India and Pakistan? There
may be difficulties, but it is not impossible.

"A day will come when the people of both countries will
realise that partition has done no good to them," Advani
said on Saturday after launching a monthly journal, South
Asia Politics, here.

"The most important thing to move towards a confederation
is that all disputes and problems between India and
Pakistan be resolved only through dialogue and not by
violence or terrorism", the home minister said.

Referring to an assessment of the US Administration about
existence of a possibility of "revolutionary change" in
Indo- Pak relations during the Lahore bus trip by Prime
Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, he said this could not
happen "as the then Pakistan army chief (Pervez
Musharraf) had other things in mind which led to the
Kargil war".

In Agra too, Musharraf described terrorists as "freedom
fighters". But now, the world community had accepted the
reality about cross-border terrorism and asked Pakistan
to "act in accordance with the promises (to contain
terrorism) it has made", Advani said.

Source - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=12389045

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

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[ Subject: REUNIFICATION IN THE NEWS CONSISTENT WITH PREDICTION
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj (http://www.mantra.com/jyotish)
[ Organization: Mantra Corporation
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian, alt.jyotish, soc.culture.pakistan,
[ soc.culture.bangladesh, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, hawaii.nortle
[ Date: February 9, 1998

Excerpts from today's news:
"New Delhi - The leader of India's [Bharatiya
Janata Party] expected to top upcoming national
elections, said here Friday that Pakistan and
Bangladesh should reunite with India.
[...]
"[L. K. Advani] said people should realise that
the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947 'has
not served the interest of any section of undivided
India.'
"He said the countries should 'voluntarily' come
together either as a confederation or a single
country, following the example of Germany or the
European Union."
[...]
End of Excerpts
- Agence France-Presse, February 9, 1998.

The news item is consistent with published predictions:

It was several years ago that I had occasion
to post in alt.astrology and soc.culture.indian
the findings using Jyotish, Vedic astrology, that
Bharat (aka India) and Pakistan are destined for
reunification soon after the end of this Gregorian
century (the year 2000). Later, other countries
in south Asia will reunite as well. A few other
Jyotishis have reached the same conclusion. The
credit goes to our ancient sage-scientists for
developing the science of Jyotish for thousands of
years.

In my posts, I have expressed the opinion that the
best way to begin the process of reunification is
to bring down the trade barriers which exist at
the borders. No self-serving politician, no religious
fanatic, no communist-leftist will be able to act
against a process which benefits the majority. Money
talks these days in the way governments are run.

The latest world news is only a click away at
http://www.flex.com/~jai

Happily for more than a billion people on our
planet in south Asia, and for many more, today's
news brings:

January 15, 1998

Correspondent Report
By Douglas Bakshian
Dhaka, Bangladesh

Introduction

The leaders of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan say economic
cooperation among their nations will bring an era of
prosperity to south Asia. VOA correspondent Douglas Bakshian
reports from Dhaka.

Text

Addressing a one-day business and trade summit in the
Bangladeshi capital, the leaders of the three largest nations in
south Asia spoke of the potential of a bright new future for the
region.

Indian prime minister Inder Kumar Gujral said economic
cooperation and the free movement of capital, goods and services,
will pave the way to prosperity.

Inder Kumar Gujral:

I am confident that in the next century our region will
successfully overcome poverty and usher in an era of
prosperity. Our products will once again be recognized
for their excellence, even as our workers will be prized
for their skill and ingenuity.

As one immediate measure to improve trade, Mr. Gujral said India
is prepared to double the number of freight trains running
between Pakistan and India to 30 a month. He also called for a
regional investment treaty and efforts to ease the tax burden on
regional business people.

Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif, for his part, said
investment and trade polices of south Asian nations should be
coordinated to make doing business easier throughout the region.
He also emphasized the role of foreign investment in bringing
prosperity to south Asia.

Nawaz Sharif:

South Asia is fast becoming attractive to foreign
investment. They seek both our markets as well as
relatively cheaper skills and resources. In the
emerging international economic environment our hope of
socio-economic prospect (progress?) lies in our ability
to attract foreign investment.

Mr. Sharif said Pakistan is committed to establishing a free
trade area in south Asia in the near future -- however, he also
warned that south Asia must rid itself of long-standing tensions
if the region is to make progress. He gave no examples, but
Pakistan and India have a history of bad relations, and have
fought three wars.

Meanwhile, Bangladeshi leader Sheikh Hasina praised Mr. Sharif
and Mr. Gujral as men of vision. She said peace between their
nations is essential for stability in south Asia as a whole.

Sheikh Hasina:

These two visionary men have shown a sense of
determination to put India-Pakistan relations on a
better footing. Peaceful co-existence between India and
Pakistan is of great importance in ensuring peace,
stability and economic development in south Asia.

More than one-hundred business people from India, Bangladesh and
Pakistan are taking part in the summit. The business leaders
are exchanging ideas and proposals on ways to improve trade and
commerce in the region. (Signed) neb/db/mmk

15-Jan-98 6:59 am EST (1159 UTC) nnnn Report 2-225314
Source - Voice of America
Copyright (C) 1998 Mantra Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Two of numerous previous posts on the subject:

[ Subject: Re: Reunification: NAO!
[ From: j...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: February 16, 1996
[ Message-ID: <6rNJxQ9z...@mantra.com>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
[ alt.fan.jai-maharaj,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.nepal,
[ soc.culture.sri-lanka
[
[ Perhaps the most important benefit of reunification is the
[ synergistic advantage of pooling resources and strategies for
[ common regional goals. The reunification of countries in south
[ Asia appears to be the only solution for lasting peace and
[ prosperity. Reunification will make it easier for south Asians to
[ compete globally because we will not be fighting against each
[ other. Moreover, why should we allow the seeds of discord and
[ divisionism planted by foreign occupiers to continue to take root?
[
[ New Asian Order - NAO!
[
[ Jai Maharaj <j...@mantra.com> Om Shanti
[
[ In the article <4fvtqu$2...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>,
[ of 15 Feb 1996 18:25:34 UTC,
[ fa...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Fatima Ibrahim Al-Shirawi) wrote:
[ > Since reunification should theoretically be beneficial for each
[ > of its components, perhaps someone could elaborate on the
[ > specific advantages towards reunification for other countries
[ > besides India . . . Pakistan in particular. I must confess, I
[ > see little benefit in Pakistan and India being reunited.
[ > Signed: Saif Al Shirawi (Fatima's brother).

[ Subject: Reunification - Bring Down Trade Barriers
[ From: j...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: June 26, 1996
[ Message-ID: <0sL0xQ9z...@mantra.com>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
[ soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.nepal,
[ alt.fan.jai-maharaj,hawaii.nortle
[
[ > From: j...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:21:16 -1000
[
[ I think that many influential people in all south
[ Asian countries are beginning to realize that the time
[ for wars among ourselves is over.
[
[ As soon as trade barriers are brought down -- the
[ latest news stories exhibit much promise in this regard
[ -- large corporations and banks are going to prevail
[ over battle-happy politicians and generals.
[
[ *** Reunite South Asia For Lasting Peace ***
[
[ Jai Maharaj <j...@mantra.com> *-=Om Shanti=-*

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"NO WAR" PREDICTED BY JAI MAHARAJ

The following post is archived in the Deja News and other archives:

[ Subject: 'Astrologers see war - Is this true ????' Jai Maharaj
answers
[ From: address....@web.site www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai
Maharaj)
[ Organization: Mantra Corporation
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,
[ alt.jyotish,alt.astrology,soc.culture.pakistan
[ Message-ID: <Jyotish-16...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 03:15:20 UTC

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An recent exchange of messages by e-mail is offered:

[ Subject: Re: Astrologers see war for - Is this true ????
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ To: [...]
[ Cc: [...]; [...]; . . .
[ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000

April 30, 2000

Namaskaram

I am grateful to [...] in bringing us together by means
of his e-mail message (appended below).

There will be no war between Bharat and Pakistan this
summer. Violence in Jammu and Kashmir, and elsewhere
in Bharat, perpetrated by the Terrorist State of Pakistan
and Muslim terrorists will continue as it has since 1947.

When news stories about the possibility of a Bharat-
Pakistan war in the summer began to appear earlier this
year, I examined the Jyotish charts of both countries
(based on August 14/15, 1947 times) and was *not* able to
predict even a Kargil-level war for this summer, and had
occasion to post this conclusion in the Usenet newsgroups
in March.

Other Jyotishis have been reported as predicting a war,
and if the newspapers have accurately published the news
items, then I respect the fact that they must have a
reason for the predictions -- a reason that is not yet
evident to yours truly.

In service to Dharm, I remain,

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish

Predictions Registry
http://www.flex.com/~jai/registry

Om Shanti

The above message is in response to the following:

----- Original Message -----
> Subject: Astrologers see war for - Is this true ????
> From: [...]
> To: "Dr. Jai Maharaj"; [...]; [...]; . . .
> Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000
>
> [...]
> http://www.deccanchronicleonline.com/cover6.htm - 23-apr-2000
>
> Nasty lineup of stars spells war with Pak
>
> Hyderabad: Predictions from professional astrologers is
> nothing new. But a rare planetary formation due to take
> place in May has emboldened them to state that natural
> and man-made calamities are in store for the country,
> including the possibility of a war over the next few
> months.
>
> According to the astrologers, during the first week of
> May, all the planets are expected to assemble in "Mesha
> Rashi" compressed between Rahu and Ketu, which, they
> said, was not auspicious for mother earth and humankind.
>
> Panchangam expert Madugula Nagaphani Sarma predicted a
> war with a neighbouring country and added that the
> country would emerge victorious due to the presence of
> "Sani, Guru and Kujudu' at one place.
>
> Eminent astrologer V V Rao too predicted a war and said
> conglomeration of planets in Mesha Rashi with Rahu and
> Ketu holding sway over them were the definite signs of a
> possible war looming large over the country besides a
> political uncertainty continuing to haunt the nation.
> Another astrologer, Mohan Ram, told Deccan Chronicle that
> the rare celestial event called "Shastagruha Kutami" was
> most likely to occur on May 3 and would have adverse
> affects on human beings.
>
> "The planets cannot exercise their individual powers as
> they like, and the conglomeration of planets would lead
> to a tussle to exercise their powers, and would have
> adverse affects in the crust of the earth resulting in
> the formation of lava and ultimately causing
> earthquakes", he said.
>
> In July, a pournami (full moon) will occur sandwiched
> between two amasvasyas (new moon) which is also
> considered inauspicious, according tothe astrologers.
> While this amasvasya will occur on July 1 and July 31
> respectively, the inauspicious full moon is due on July
> 16, they said.
>
> There is also the possibility of the Ionosphere getting
> damaged further which in turn would cause radiational
> effects leading to widespread allergic diseases and also
> aggravation of asthma.Ram, however, sought to dispel the
> fears that the diseases would effect only those whose
> stars would be weak during the particular time and also
> depending upon the time and stars during which they were
> born.However, there is a positive side too to the
> celestial event.
>
> Children born during the particular period of the
> conglomeration of planets would not only be born with
> valour,vigour and bravery but will also possess shrewd
> brains due to the presence of Sani, Guru and Kujudu."It
> is a very rare combination of valour, vigour, bravery and
> brains found in the human beings since their origin and
> those born during such a time are really lucky", said
> Nagaphani Sarma.

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Correct prediction by Jai Maharaj about calm in Kargil

According to Jyotish, the Divine Science of Light:

Summary: Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer, made the prediction
about Kargil on June 20, 1999 at 2230 hours UTC that "a calm
approaches within 192 hours from now." The 192-hour time window ended
on Wednesday, July 7, 1999 at 2230 hours UTC, that is, on Thursday,
July 8, 1999 at 0400 hours IST. The Indian Express reported that "The
Shrinagar-Leh highway, closed to civilian traffic since the Kargil
crisis broke out in early May, was reopened for the public" on July 8,
1999 (read this and other news articles below).

Withdrawal confirmed; fighting stops

By Harbaksh Singh Nanda
United Press International
Monday, July 12,1999 at 0540 hours UTC

DRASS, India, July 12 (UPI) -- There is a lull in fighting along the
Pakistan-India border as artillery on both sides has been silent for
several hours.

Both Indian and Pakistan say today that Islamic rebels are
withdrawing from disputed territory and India is claiming victory,
saying that very soon the Indian-controlled Kasmir will be free of
infiltrators. An Indian senior military official, without confirming
an
official cease-fire, said: ``We do not shoot people in their back. If
they are going back, we will let them.''

Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee on Sunday said,
``Pakistani intrusion has decisively been turned back.''

After a meeting with top India army commanders Vajpayee said: ``The
turning point has come. Operation Vijay (Victory) is going to be a
great
Vijay.''

He asserted the rebels will soon be evicted from Kashmir. The Indian
army has not specified a timeframe for when this will happen.

In Islamabad, the Pakistani Cabinet has endorsed President Clinton
and Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's appeal to Islamic rebels
to
withdraw from Kashmir.

So far 1,150 people have been killed in the conflict, of which 785
are Pakistani Islamic rebels. However, independent observers and
soldiers on both sides say the figure is much higher.

Fighting in the mountainous Kashmir began in May, when Indian troops
unleashed an operation to push out what it calls are Islamic
mercenaries
and Pakistani army regulars from the Indian side of the disputed
Himalayan region.

Neighboring India and Pakistan both claim the whole of Kashmir. India
controls two-thirds of the border region and Pakistan holds the rest.
Since simultaneous independence in 1947 India and Pakistan have
fought three wars, two of them over Kashmir.

Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: SHRINAGAR-LEH HIGHWAY REOPENED TO PUBLIC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,
alt.culture.kashmir,soc.culture.indian.marathi,alt.politics.clinton,
alt.politics.usa.congress,soc.culture.pakistan,hawaii.nortle
From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
Message-ID: <Bharat-18...@news.mantra.com>
Keywords: Jyotish, defence, defense, BJP, Hindu, Bharat, Kashmir,
Kargil, India, Sensex, USA, Sharif, Clinton, Pakistan, Jai Maharaj
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:42:36 UTC

Please note: the 192-hour countdown is based
on the following June 29, 1999 prediction:

[ Subject: Re: Patience or cowardice?
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj <j...@mantra.com>
[ To: [A writer]
[ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:43:00 -1000
[
[ [...] with Congressman Bob Barr's legal complaint
[ against the White House.
[
[ But war is what *is* happening right now in Kashmir.
[ How else do you define war? According to my Jyotish-
[ based estimate, a calm approaches within 192 hours
[ from now -- 2230 hours UTC on June 29, 1999.
[ [...]
[ Namaste, Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer Om Shanti

Most of the military action moved from Kargil to
Batalik and Dras areas during the past 72 hours.

The latest news from the Indian Express,
and previous posts are offered:

Kargil Special

SHRINAGAR-LEH HIGHWAY REOPENED TO PUBLIC

The Indian Express
Thursday, July 8, 1999

Shrinagar: The Shrinagar-Leh highway, closed to
civilian traffic since the Kargil crisis broke out in
early May, was reopened for the public today, officials
here said. The 434 km-long National Highway 1A, the
lifeline linking Leh with Shrinagar via Drass in Jammu
and Kashmir, was reopened for the public following the
recapture of Tiger Hills in Drass and Jabar Hills in
Batalik sector in Kargil district by the army from
Pakistani intruders who had been targeting the road,
reports PTI.

The reopening of the highway would facilitate the
supply of foodgrains, petroleum products and other
essential commodities to Leh and Kargil districts for
the entire winter. The highway remains blocked during
winter because of heavy snowfall.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: KARGIL OPERATION
[ WILL END SOON, SAYS THAKRE
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-18...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:34:55 UTC

KARGIL OPERATION WILL END SOON: THAKRE

Patna, July 8, 1999 (UNI, The Hindu) - BJP president
Kushabhau Thakre today said the Kargil operation would
end "very soon." "Our soldiers have gained control of
almost all the sensitive posts in the sector," Thakre
told reporters here. Criticising the Congress for
saying that the Lahore bus diplomacy has failed, he
said "the entire nation knows that only due to Prime
Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee's visit to Lahore, the
country could get outside support on the Kargil issue."
Even Pakistan's long-time friendly countries like
China, the United States and the Gulf Nations
"supported us," he said. "The bus trip paid us" the
reward for our honest approach to bring a conducive
atmosphere in the region and to have friendly relations
with the neighbouring countries," he added. Replying to
a question on the convening of a special Rajya Sabha
session to discuss the Kargil issue, Thakre said there
was no need and pointed out that eminent leaders
including two former Prime Ministers Chandrashekhar and
H. D. Deve Gowda and a majority of Chief Ministers had
expressed their views against such a demand.

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: SHARIEF WILL IMPLEMENT
[ ACCORD, SAYS U.S.
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-05...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 05:26:00 UTC

SHARIEF WILL IMPLEMENT ACCORD: US

By C. K. Arora in Washington
Rediff On the Net
Wednesday 7, 1999

The United States is confident about the ability of
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharief to redeem the
commitment he had made to President Bill Clinton that
his government would take steps to restore the sanctity
of Line of Control in Kashmir and de-escalate tension
in the Kargil sector.

Both the White House and the state department made
statements to this effect, trying to set at rest doubts
raised about Sharief's competence to deliver on his
promise.

''Certainly we believe, he (Sharief) is the prime
minister of Pakistan and that he speaks on behalf of
the government,'' state department spokesman James
Foley remarked.

To drive his point home, he made a reference to
Pakistan army Chief Pervez Musharraf's statement
supporting the US-Pakistan accord.

Foley said the comment of the army chief in the last 24
hours indicating support for the restoration and
sanctity of the LoC was 'very important'.

He said it was in the interest of both India and
Pakistan that de-escalation be achieved as the first
step in order to return to the sanctity of the LoC.

''I think it is our presumption that the government of
Pakistan has the influence necessary to defuse the
situation,'' a White House official said.

When asked to comment on Pakistan Foreign Minister
Sartaj Aziz's statement that the restoration of the LoC
should be linked to the resolution of the larger
Kashmir issue, he said, ''It is our understanding that
the sequence of events would be concrete steps in line
with the Simla accord followed by cessation of
hostilities and then re-invigoration of the Lahore
process and declaration made in February that they will
engage on all issues related to the relationship
between Pakistan and India including Kashmir.''

''I think Pakistan, India and US all recognise the
danger of the current situation and the need to take
appropriate steps to defuse the situation rather than
risk further escalation,'' he added.
- UNI

Source - http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/jul/07kash2.htm

BLAIR BACKS US-PAK ACCORD

Rediff On the Net
Wednesday 7, 1999

British Prime Minister Tony Blair met Pakistan Prime
Minister Nawaz Sharief yesterday and backed a
Washington accord designed to resolve the Kargil
conflict, officials said.

Blair and Sharief, en route back to Pakistan after
talks with US President Bill Clinton, met for half an
hour to discuss the fighting in Kargil.

A spokesman for Blair said Britain welcomed the joint
US-Pakistan statement issued on Sunday in which Clinton
and Sharief agreed that concrete steps should be taken
to restore the military Line of Control dividing the
forces of the two countries.

''(Blair) said the statement represented real progress
towards reducing tension with India. The prime minister
and Sharief agreed on the importance of swiftly
implementing the actions proposed in the statement,''
the spokesman said.
- UNI
Source - http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/jul/07kash1.htm

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: PAK ARMY NOT AGAINST PULL-OUT,
[ SAYS MUSHARRAF
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-19...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 19:36:05 UTC

PAK ARMY NOT AGAINST PULL-OUT: GEN MUSHARRAF

Mujahideen will be told to withdraw

The Times of India
Wednesday, July 7, 1999

Islamabad - Giving the first indication of pulling out
from Indian territory in Kargil, Pakistan said on
Tuesday it would ``appeal'' to the infiltrators to
withdraw. Its army also set at rest speculation that it
was opposed to the move by maintaining that it had
``complete understanding'' with the government on the
issue.

Making a statement in the National Assembly, minister
of state for foreign affairs Muhammad Saddiq Kanju said
that the Pakistan would appeal to the Mujahideen to
withdraw. He added that the question of withdrawal of
Pakistani forces from the Indian side did not arise
``as they have not crossed the LoC''.

Mr Sharif had agreed to urge the Mujahideen, mostly
activists of Pakistan-based militant groups, to return,
he said even as the opposition severly criticised Mr
Sharif's ``deal'' with US President Bill Clinton.

Explaining the phrase ``concrete steps'' in the joint
Clinton-Sharif statement, Mr Kanju said: ``As we have
no presence across the LoC, the only step on our part
can be to appeal to the Mujahideen (to withdraw).''

Trying to rebut the criticism for the climbdown, Mr
Kanju said: ``This is the first time that the US has
agreed to play a direct role in the search for a final
settlement of the Kashmir dispute.''

He claimed that the Clinton-Sharif statement recognised
Kashmir's ``centrality to peace and stability in South
Asia''. Mr Kanju's statement aimed at Jamat-i-Islami
and other fundamentalist groups which called a
nationwide shutdown and Black Day to protest ``sell-
out'' by Mr Sharif on Kargil.

In Rome, Pakistan's special envoy Mian Khurshid Mahmood
Kasuri said Pakistan would welcome a ceasefire to cool
the Kashmir conflict and avert a full-scale war for
which it was ready but not willing.

Pakistan army chief General Pervez Musharraf said in
Islamabad that any decision on withdrawal would be
taken only after Mr Sharif returned from the US. About
1,500 to 2,000 ``highly-trained'' Mujahideen were still
fighting against the Indian Army, he said.

Gen Musharraf told the Urdu daily Jung that ``there is
complete understanding between the (Pakistani) army and
the government'' on Mr Sharif's Washington mission. On
how the withdrawal would be conducted, Gen Musharraf
said: ``These Mujahideen will be asked to change their
positions. We have to see how they respond to that
request.''

The army chief, however, declined comment when asked
what the plan of action would be if the Mujahideen
refused to return but admitted that he was concerned
about the developments.

He also ruled out that Pakistan would go for quid pro
quo for withdrawing from Kargil by asking India to pull
out from Siachen, saying: ``There is no question of
exchanging Kargil with Siachen.''

The director-general of Inter-services public
relations, Brig Rashid Qureshi, meanwhile, ruled out
withdrawal of Pakistani troops from the LoC. He said
Pakistan army positions were ``on the LoC'' and it
continued to observe all vehicular movements on the
Drass-Kargil road.

``That road shall remain under threat,'' Brig Qureshi
said, adding that Pakistani troops were able to fire on
the Drass-Kargil road as any convoy moving on it could
not avoid their eye. He alleged that Indian troops
indulged in intense artillery firing into the Pakistani
side and some Indian planes even dropped bombs across
LoC but without violating Pakistani airspace.(Agencies)

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: SENSEX, RUPEE JUMP ON PEACE SIGNS
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-23...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:43:06 UTC

SENSEX JUMPS 112 POINTS, RE 16 PAISE ON PEACE SIGNS

Business Times Bureau
the Yimes of India
Tuesday, July 6, 1999

Mumbai - The stock markets in India and Pakistan
welcomed the diplomatic breakthrough in Washington
wherein Pakistan has assured to take concrete steps to
restore the line of control in Kashmir. This has given
a feeling that chances of war between India and
Pakistan have subsided.

Though the mood was still cautious, there was a sense
of optimism among the market players. Reflecting the
trend, in the forex market, the rupee gained by about
16 paise as it closed sharply higher at 43.23/24
compared to 43.39/40 of Friday last.

The BSE Sensex closed at 4,306.40--its highest level
since August 1997, against last Friday's close of
4,194.55, netting a sharp gain of 111.85 points or 2.67
per cent.

In Pakistan, the Karachi Stock Exchange's 100-share
index went up by 18.01 points, representing 1.63 per
cent.

In the Indian forex market, forward rates tracked the
spot market. Monthly premiums on an average fell by 4-5
paise. The sixth month and the yearly annualised
premium closed lower at 4.87 per cent and 5.52 per
cent, respectively against 5.13 per cent and 5.88 per
cent of the previous day.

In the stock markets, the broad-based BSE Natex,
comprising 100 stocks, rose by 53.72 points or nearly 3
per cent to close at its 52-week high of 1,854.23 from
the previous close of 1,800.51. On the National Stock
Exchange, the S&P CNX Nifty advanced further to close
at 1,230.25, showing a rise of 32.40 points or 2.7 per
cent over its previous close of 1,197.85.

According to market circles, a host of reasons were
responsible for this surge in sentiment. First, the
markets believed that a political solution to the
Kargil crisis is in sight, following US mediation.

Second, reports that the Indian army recaptured key
peaks on the India-Pakistan border meant that even if a
political solution was not forthcoming, a military
victory was inevitable.

Third, there were signs of imminent economic recovery.
The latest data pointed to improving industrial output,
exports, bumper crops and strong rural consumption.

In fact, the latest data on wholesale price index
showed inflation at its lowest levels since the early
1980s. Market analysts said that the country appeared
to be recovering from a three-year slowdown in
industrial growth.

Fourth, operators at NSE squared up their short
positions due to approaching end of account on Tuesday.
This along with speculative buying on BSE, led to
handsome gains in many of the counters.

Foreign institutional investors (FIIs) too reportedly
made all-round purchases focussing their attention on
software and pharmaceutical scrips. However, domestic
institutions chose to book profits in scrips like
Reliance, BPL Ltd, Bajaj Auto, NIIT and others.

Several marketmen said that the Sensex was now tipped
to cross the 4320-level. The next resistance is
expected to be at the 4390 level, dealers said.

Describing Monday's movements, a leading stockbroker
said that there was no runaway bull charge surge, as
the market was still cautious. ``However, if a solution
really comes through, then the Sensex would go for the
4,500-level,'' he added.

Meanwhile, at the forex market, heavy dollar unloading
by banks and corporates contributed to the
strengthening of the rupee. Opening higher at 43.29/39,
which itself was the day's low, the rupee continued its
rally as the market virtually turned into a sellers'
one.

Corporates and banks offloaded their dollar position
expecting further rise of the rupee value in the wake
of the encouraging India-Pakistan development.
Importers, however, preferred to stay away, awaiting
further appreciation of the Indian unit, dealers said.

While winding up of long positions was cited as the
main factor behind the rupee's upsurge, a section of
the forex market believed that the currency was over-
valued in the longer term and needed to correct itself.

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: SHARIF ASSURANCE TO
[ CLINTON ON WITHDRAWAL OF FORCES
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-18...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:08:04 UTC

SHARIF ASSURANCE TO CLINTON ON WITHDRAWAL OF FORCES

Washington, July 5, 1999 (UNI) - The end to the two-
month-old conflict in Kargil appears imminent following
an assurance by Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif
to US President Bill Clinton that he would withdraw
soon his forces, including the Mujahideens, who crossed
into Kashmir. US officials, who briefed the press after
a three-hour meeting between President Clinton and
Pakistani Prime Minister, gave this indication, saying
``our understanding is that there will be withdrawal of
the forces now.'' They, however, declined to spell out
exactly when the forces would pull out. ``I think it is
safe to say that the President and both Prime Ministers
have a great sense of urgency here, and that we would
like to see positive steps in the very near future,''
one of the officials said.

The latest news from UNI, and previous posts are now offered:

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: U.S.-PAK AGREE FOR
[ PAKISTAN TO WITHDRAW
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-23...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:36:01 UTC

Sunday, July 4, 1999 at 2259 hours UTC

Correspondent Report
By Deborah Tate
The White House

Introduction

The United States believes that under an agreement
reached between president Clinton and Pakistani prime
minister Nawaz Sharif Sunday, guerrillas who crossed
into Indian-held Kashmir will be withdrawn. VOA's
correspondent Deborah Tate reports from the White
House.

Text

After a hastily-arranged three-hour meeting here in
Washington requested by Mr. Sharif, Mr. Clinton and the
Pakistani leader issued a joint written statement
saying they agreed that 'concrete steps' will be taken
to restore the line of control dividing Kashmir.

A senior U.S. official who did not want to be
identified says it is the United States' understanding
there will be a withdrawal of guerrilla forces from the
Indian side of Kashmir.

In the joint statement, Mr. Clinton urged that once
such action is taken there be an immediate end to
hostilities. Mr. Clinton called Indian prime minister
Atal Behari Vajpayee to brief him on the meeting with
Mr. Sharif.

India launched an offensive to push Pakistani-backed
guerrillas out of Indian-controlled Kashmir in late may
-- raising fears of a wider conflict on the
subcontinent. Islamabad has insisted it was not behind
the invasion, a position Washington has disputed.
(Signed) neb/dat/pt

July 4, 1999 6:59 p.m. EDT 2259 hours UTC Report 2-251419
Source: Voice of America

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti


[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: U.S. SAYS PAKISTAN WILL WITHDRAW FORCES
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-ID: <Bharat-23...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:12:36 UTC

U.S.: PAKISTAN WILL WITHDRAW FORCES

By Lawrence Knutson
The Associated Press
Sunday, July 4, 1999 at 18:40 hours ET

Washington (AP) - Pakistan's prime minister met with
President Clinton for more than three hours Sunday and
agreed ``that concrete steps will be taken'' to restore
the ``Line of Control'' separating Pakistani and Indian
forces near Kashmir.

``Our understanding is that there will be a withdrawal
of the (Pakistani) forces now,'' said a U.S. official
who briefed reporters on the meeting under condition of
anonymity. ``Both have a great sense of urgency. We
want to see steps taken very quickly.''

The officials declined to elaborate on exactly what
``concrete steps'' Pakistan might take.

``Our position has been that the forces across the Line
of Control need to be returned to the Pakistani side,''
the U.S. official said.

Another said, ``The prime minister will have to make
those decisions himself on how he will undertake to
implement the decisions contained in this document.''

``The president urged an immediate cessation of the
hostilities once these steps are taken,'' a joint
statement issued by the two leaders said.

The statement, issued by Clinton and Prime Minister
Nawaz Sharif, said that the two agreed that an Indian-
Pakistani dialog begun last February in Lahore
``provides the best forum for resolving all issues
dividing India and Pakistan, including Kashmir.''

``The president said he would take a personal interest
in encouraging an expeditious resumption and
intensification of those bilateral efforts, once the
sanctity of the Line of Control has been fully
restored,'' the statement said.

The two leaders called the current fighting in Kashmir
dangerous and said it ``contains the seeds of a wider
conflict.''

The statement did not spell out what specific steps
Pakistan might take, nor was there any indication of
what India's response might be.

Clinton also repeated his intention to visit South Asia
in the relatively near future.

Sharif requested the meeting and flew from Islamabad,
the Pakistani capital, to attend. The president agreed
to meet with the Pakistani leader after conferring by
telephone Saturday with Sharif and Indian Prime
Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

Officials said that Clinton again called Vajpayee
during a break in the meeting to keep him informed of
the course of the conversation and that National
Security Adviser Sandy Berger called his counterpart in
India when the meeting had concluded.

White House officials said Clinton would not attempt to
mediate the dispute. They said he continues to believe
that the Kashmir problem must be resolved by direct
dialogue between India and Pakistan.

But White House officials said Saturday that Clinton,
Sharif and Vajpayee all agree ``the situation is
dangerous and could escalate if not resolved quickly.''

The meetings between Clinton and Sharif occurred at
Blair House, the official government guest house that
is across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House.

For more information, please visit the following links:

Kashmir Information Network
http://207.159.86.9/

The Real Kashmir Story
http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/may/28jk.htm

Satyamevajayate
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The Holocaust of Hindus site 1
http://www.geocities.com/~lavlesh/islam.html

The Holocaust of Hindus site 2
http://members.tripod.com/~sudheerb/holocaust1.html

Posted on 07/04/1999 16:10:14 PDT by Jai

Sources of the above and more news and discussion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/

Archives of similar posts here:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/posts.html

A previous post:

[ Subject: 192-HR COUNTDOWN: CLINTON INTERRUPTS I-DAY
[ TO MEET SHARIF
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Message-Id: <Bharat-20...@news.mantra.com>
[ Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 08:52:27 UTC

192-hr countdown: Clinton interrupts I-Day to meet Sharif

[ Subject: Re: Patience or cowardice?
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj <j...@mantra.com>
[ To: [A writer]
[ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:43:00 -1000
[
[ [...] with Congressman Bob Barr's legal complaint
[ against the White House.
[
[ But war is what *is* happening right now in Kashmir.
[ How else do you define war? According to my Jyotish-
[ based estimate, a calm approaches within 192 hours
[ from now -- 2230 hours UTC on June 29, 1999.
[ [...]
[ Namaste, Jai Maharaj Om Shanti

A news report from the Voice of America:

Sunday, July 4, 1999 at 0340 hours UTC

Correspondent Report
By David Golust
Washington

Introduction

President Clinton is interrupting his Independence Day
holiday for some personal diplomacy on the Kashmir
crisis. He meets in Washington Sunday with Pakistan
prime minister Nawaz Sharif. More from VOA White House
correspondent David Gollust.

Text

The meeting -- to be held at the Blair House official
guest residence near the White House -- was requested
by Mr. Sharif, who flew to Washington after a Saturday
telephone talk with Mr. Clinton.

The president also conferred by phone with Indian prime
minister (Atal Bihari) Vajpayee, who Clinton aides say
raised no objection to the Washington meeting.

A brief statement by the White House says all the
parties agree the Kashmir situation is dangerous and
could escalate, if it is not resolved quickly.

White house officials say Mr. Clinton is concerned by
the hostilities. He has had repeated contacts with
both sides, as he did a year ago when the two south
Asian powers tested nuclear weapons.

They say the president does not intend to try to
mediate the Kashmir conflict and wants the parties,
themselves, to quickly resume a high-level dialogue.
(Signed) neb/dag/wd/wd

July 3, 1999 11:40 p.m. EDT 0340 UTC Report 2-251400

Source - Voice of America

A news report just in:

BHARAT SAYS RECAPTURES KEY KASHMIR STRATEGIC HEIGHT

India Says Recaptures Key Kashmir Strategic Height

Reuters
Sunday July 4 3:20 AM ET

Nayee Dillee (Reuters) - India said Sunday it had captured
the strategic Tiger Hill on its side of a military line
of control in Kashmir after a fierce night-long battle.

``I am delighted to tell you that a battalion of the
Grenadiers recaptured Tiger Hill after a long and
bloody battle,'' a senior defense official told Reuters
on condition of anonymity, referring to the 15,060-foot
peak that commanded a vital stretch of the Indian
highway through northern Kashmir.

``I am not a religious man, but I prayed very hard this
morning,'' the Indian defense official said.

Military officials said troops launched their final
assault on Tiger Hill Saturday, with intense artillery
exchanges between Indian and Pakistan gunners on both
sides of the Line of Control (LOC) that slices through
the Kashmir valley.

Tiger Hill looks down on India's National Highway 1-A,
the main supply route for India's northernmost region
of Ladakh as well as troops holding the Siachen Glacier
north of the Drass and Kargil sectors where the
fiercest fighting is now raging.

India launched an intense air and ground offensive in
May to dislodge guerrillas occupying strategic heights
on its side of the military Line of Control dividing
Kashmir and accused Islamabad of backing them with
regular soldiers. Pakistan denies the charge, saying it
gives no more than moral and political support to what
it calls Kashmiri ``freedom fighters.''

Jai Maharaj
j...@mantra.com
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

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Predictions by Edmond Wollmann
Subject: US 99/2000
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology,alt.divination,alt.paranormal,
alt.astrology.metapsych
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:43 PM

The year revolves around urgent issues (requiring closure) regarding
flexibility of the imagination and ocean discoveries, other
dimensional
perspectives (UFO), dreams, drugs, intrigue, spying, deception
regarding humanitarian concerns and humanitarian equality issues. A
contradiction, conflict and paradox regarding human resources that
will
not find easy resolution is indicated. Also, regarding the unreal and
camouflage with reference to social interactions, the congress (and
the
president's resources), and hopes for the world economic structure
stabilization. An international power struggle from this deception,
especially with resources and international law (or religious
beliefs),
is very high in manifestation probability. Difficulty resolving
diplomatic issues and gaining control by the US (re: Legal conflicts
with other countries) initiates an urgent war (most probable
economic).
China, is front and center. The Middle East accelerates in conflict
along with India and Pakistan. Tensions are high and global economic
tensions heighten as well. But this is because the world is
accelerating in conscious awareness in the transformation age. Issues
that have been ignored and suppressed are now rising to be resolved
(yes, there is a collective Unconscious).

These issues are in high negative profile beginning with the
lunar eclipse of July 28, 1999 and August 11 (when the president,
national security, and the status of a nation is questioned: Who knew
what and when? re: resources). A reckless need for the US to prove
itself brings legal complications and exaggerated stubbornness by
economic partners. A powerful opponent must NOT be underestimated.
Congress (the Republican right) comes under fire for deceit and
limiting the country in so doing to promote more "right wing judgment"
issues. The youth of the nation are especially oppositional. Poor
judgment in foreign policy threatens with tremendous enduring
difficulties as a result. All of the issues find positive resolution
beginning on January 24, when an Arthurian perspective begins that
colors speculation about the future.

Religious power struggles continue. The Pope may not make it
past the spring of the new Millennium. This event is symbolic in that
the Religious structure will begin to destructurize itself as the
momentum of rigidity and judgment creates an implosion. The science of
following must end. Ritual has little to do with "spirituality", it
only induces the powerless to continue to follow and discount their
own
connection to "All That Is" wherein a "personal relationship with
"God"
is a GIVEN. The dark moon now becomes more powerful (black Moon in
astrology, which symbolizes where the positive infusion of perspective
results from the removal (destructurization of unnecessary fears) of
superficial and out of integrity support relied upon in the past).

The new moon of December 7, brings powerful spiritual issues to
the forefront. The eclipse of January 21 brings issues of air power
and
higher ideals into the world (Altair, the Flyer is emphasized) and an
urgent new beginning is called for. The intellect begins to become
more
highly valued. February 5 completes a humanitarian alteration of
consciousness and awakening of the unconscious phase 1 (the beginning
was delineated by myself in the 1993 Horoscope Yearbook entitled "The
Uranus/Neptune Conjunction: A Collective Unconscious Awakening".

By the beginning of May 2000 the picture brightens when an
inspirational infusion of the spiritual awareness of youth
demonstrates
the victorious triumph of integrity on the 1st, 13th, 29 and 30th of
this month. Love is now seen to be a state of being, not
something "given." The public consciousness begins to real-ize a
recognition of choice with reference to political leaders and the
president.

This completes the initiation of the Arcturian1 phase 1. More to come.
Best to all.

"I believe I shall, in some shape or other, always exist; and, with
all
the inconveniences human life is liable to, I shall not object to a
new
edition of my life, hoping, however, that the errata of the last may
be
corrected." Benjamin Franklin on reincarnation

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
� 1999 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
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Correct prediction by Jai Maharaj about military action

According to Jyotish, the Divine Science of Light:

[...] More of the same will continue, the activity getting more
intense beginning at a point during the next 72 hours or so.

- Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi, Saturday, June 13, 1999
at 0317 hours UTC, Bharatvarsh Mailing List
http://www.egroups.com/group/bharatvarsh

News excerpts:

FORCES PUT ON HIGH ALERT

Nayee Dillee - The Army, the Navy, the Air force and the Coast Guard
are all in a state of ``high alert'' following Pakistani troop
movements along both the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir and the
entire India-Pakistan border. [...]
- The Times of India, Tuesday, June 15, 1999

MASSIVE ASSAULT LAUNCHED TO RECAPTURE TIGER HILL

Nayee Dillee - In what may well mark the turning point in the 23-day-
old Operation Vijay, the Indian Air Force's Mirage-2000 jets struck
with devastating effect over the past 48 hours, killing at least 100
intruders and pulverising more than 80 structures containing
ammunition and military stores in Muntho Dalo, north-east of Batalik.

The air superiority Mirage-2000 fighters unleashed 500-pound bombs
with lethal accuracy on Pak intruder positions, situated at a height
of 14, 600 feet at Muntho Dalo. The target area was being used as a
staging-cum-supply camp by the Pakistan Army for launching operations
in the Ladakh sector. [...]

- The Hindustan Times, Thursday, June 17, 1999

Jai Maharaj
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Om Shanti

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Predictions by Edmond Wollmann
Subject: Re: PREDICTIONS BY ASTROLOGERS - REGISTRY INAUGURATED
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@aznet.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.astrology.metapsych,alt.astrology,alt.jyotish,alt.astrology.asian...
Message-ID: 33E4D3...@aznet.net
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:08:32 -0700

Predictions based on US chart. July 4, 1997

The year revolves around relationships and the psychology of them with
regard to government officials and the public consciousness. There is
a profound defensiveness and protectiveness by government officials
and their positions as the public consciousness gets very personal
into the lives of leaders. The indirect manipulations of propoganda
invites cageyness. Elusiveness will do no good. The world will be in
your living room. The home and family issues of the government come to
the fore as a direction.

Also at issue, the debts of the nation and financial relations with
other countries, the trade deficit and deaths of those in government
office. All of these affairs are subject to compulsive and
temperamental disruption.

Political funds of BOTH parties and the speculation and extension
profile of the nation are under extreme change and revelation. All
forms of advisory groups for and of the people are extremely
unstable.

The women of the nation become a prominent force, and the extension
and love giving idea with regard to the feminine aspect will have
great power and commands center stage. The avant garde with regard to
relationship becomes the national topic. More revelations with regard
to Military sexual harrassment are VERY likely (Please see my "Jupiter/
Uranus conjunction Intellectual Revelations" article) and the militia
issue continues.

Foreign countries test our intelligence network and in science great
benifits are discovered through space exploration by July 14th. This
is also a date for public issues regarding those in government
positions and their sexual escapades. On August 1st-4th new domestic
policies, home, family and womens issues rise to prominance. Foreign
intrigue and camouflage possible on October 20-22-compassion is
needed. By November 18-22 the intensity of relationship and monetary
issues and the recklessness in their handling becomes common knowledge
that disrupts the status quo. The status of the country is tested and
pressed by February 20-21, 1998 along with the president. The clash of
egos. By May of 98 more militaristic or scientific revelations -this
time of a positive nature. By May 30th women speak out as emotional
issues of law, religion or public opinion threaten.

As Pluto crosses the 7th of the US in February the alteration of the
populace will begin to shift dramatically as belief coercion becomes
public knowledge. The position of President is seen for what it is.

Thank you for allowing me to post this. I had to repost this

Subject: Usa 97 From: Edmond Wollmann
Date: 1997/08/03
Newsgroups: alt.astrology.metapsych

because the original dated 6/19/97 was cancelled from the archives or
removed somehow.

-- Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.

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Predictions by Edmond Wollmann
Subject: USA 98
From: Edmond Wollmann [alch...@email.msn.com]
Message-ID: <01bdb271$2c3a2aa0$c381400c@default>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:26:17 -0700

The year (from July 98 to July 99) revolves around the law,
philosophy, spiritual understanding, truths, beliefs and the conflict
possible through the interaction of diverse truths.

The law with reference to national security, the public and secrets
held for manipulative advantage are exaggerated and come under public
scrutiny. The public security and public trust is at issue.
International agreements and shared responsibilities of their leaders
are required to reassess peace offerings and the religious and
philosophical conflicts of their peoples. The armed services
exaggerate information to force a view. The public consciousness
shifts to greater issues of purposeful existence. By May of 99 US
secrets and communication of them accelerates empathy rather than
strategy. If this is resisted and strategy continues, the bureaucracy
experiences a RESOURCE CRISIS. The forcing of values and views implies
the dis-belief by the forcing party in them, and in their validity.
The public mind challenges the governmental manipulation of
information. New information of a scientific nature with reference to
our place in the universe trips up efforts to "spin." Revelations in
understanding begin. On September 23, 98 and Jan 3, 99 the public
philosophic perspective is clear. The propagandic spin machines reap
what they have sown. A country of the people is exercised. The
possibility of visitor interaction is great on these dates. Confusion
is the beginning of wisdom. More control is assumed by a once
complacent populace. On September 27 an out of control public view is
best left to unfold naturally. On October 2, the armed forces again
spin the need for their level of readiness for rapid deployment-
deception is possible on these dates. Other countries expansion and
changed status initiates another level of developmental challenge to
the national philosophy. Problems the US refuses to look at are
brought front and center. Power decentralization threatens the status
quo. There is room for all truths. By the end of November, the
challenges to the technological/territorial materialistic domination
view undergo the final phase of de-structurization. Obsession with
domination and control will quickly be doused. Racial and belief
system conflict is exceedingly high at this time. Spiritual knowledge
MUST be integrated into the world view.

By Christmas day the avant garde individualistic pioneer challenges
the system of Orion domination and control!! Time to wake up to Orion
light! The direction of a nation is challenged! Nothing makes the
darkness go-like the light! The knight is proven worthy. Dis-covery
and exploration is the sign of the healthy ego and path to heaven. On
January 3 the spiritual are clear, and the fearful, confused. By the
end of January 99 the Uranus/Neptune conjunction is in full swing and
the rigid and powerless are revealed. There is NO ONE TRUTH!
Maliciousness, does not "kill" truth. Changes in the "status" of a
nation are underway. Security concerns MUST be replaced with growing
trust. By February 14 the intent of the founding fathers is revealed
in the brilliance of the inventor, the seeker, the "awakened ones" and
the individualistic pioneer who accelerates the collective. To be
continued upon further momentum real-izations. Edmond H.
Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.

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Excerpts from actual correspondence:

Message from a client:

[ Subject: new info
[ From: W.
[ To: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Cc: L.
[ Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 1:28 p.m.
[
[ Dear Jai,
[
[ I wanted to let you know that I
[ have made a few appointments here.
[
[ july 23 signing . . .
[ [...]
[ thanx, peace,
[ W.

The astrologer recommends about 3 hours later:

[ Subject: Re: new info
[ From: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ To: W.
[ Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 4:11 p.m.
[
[ Namaste!
[ Dear W.:
[
[ 1. My recommendation is that the July 23
[ task be moved to the forenoon of July 24,
[ if possible.
[ [...]
[
[ Jai Maharaj
[ Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
[ http://www.flex.com/~jai
[ j...@mantra.com
[ Om Shanti

The client writes back on the recommended day:

[ Subject: Re event update
[ From: W.
[ To: Dr. Jai Maharaj
[ Cc: L.
[ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:00:49 -0400
[
[ Dear Jai,
[ update on events......
[ went to . . . on the 23rd as scheduled (couldn't change)
[ but BEHOLD!! none were available, they called me at
[ 12:43 pm to tell me one is available the 24th!!
[ signing contract for a year . . .
[ [...]
[ W.

I publish actual examples of success with the science
of Jyotish, Vedic astrology periodically to sing the
praise of Paramatma (Divine Supreme Soul) and our


sage-scientists who passed down the knowledge to us

through our previous generations. Readers are invited
to read about more such examples and other information
by visiting the web site mentioned below:

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

About 25,000 links to posts by yours truly:
http://www.flex.com/~jai
Om Shanti

http://www.flex.com/~jai/registry/predictionuse.html

PREDICTIONS BY ASTROLOGERS -
REGISTRY INAUGURATED

From: j...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)

Newsgroups: alt.astrology,alt.jyotish,alt.astrology.asian,
soc.culture.indian,alt.religion.hindu,alt.fan.jai-maharaj
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 21:08:46 UTC

Readers always send e-mail after they see a post by me about this or
that prediction coming true. Many ask for more information, some ask
about the services I provide as a consultant, critics send threats and
vulgarities, and a few offer congratulations.

That is not fair. Only the errors are of my own making.

Jyotish, known in the West also as Vedic, Hindu, Indian or Eastern
astrology, is a science that was developed by our sage-scientists for
thousands of years. If you wish, please see "A Brief History of
Astrology" at http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/history1.html

Most of the work, perhaps all of it, has already been done. We in the
modern times sift through the huge pile of coal accumulated over
generations to find the jewels of wisdom that will help us through.

In order to focus attention more on the science and less on any one
astrologer, I will begin posting predictions published by other
astrologers. Here is one from Chakrapani Ullal:

[About a comet hitting Jupiter] "It is looked at as an omen affecting
mostly heads of state, also religion and holy people, but not really
holy people. It will have similar effects as Rahu conjunct Jupiter,
which happened last in 1987-88, when all the spiritual people,
priests, gurus got into trouble. It may also take the form of more
health problems requiring surgery. The results will not be strongly
seen until six months later, in 1995." - Hinduism Today, June 1994.

A collection of published predictions is also being offered in the
PREDICTION REGISTRY (tm) -- soon available at the web sites mentioned
below.

Also available is a mailing list about Holistic Jyotish. If interested
in joining, please write to me about more information.

Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer

http://www.flex.com/~jai
http://members.aol.com/Jyotishi
Om Shanti


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WHY DOES HATE-SPEWING BIGOT "Dr" JAI MAHARAJ HAVE HIS OWN FAQ?
Anonymous Wrote:

FAQs about "Dr." Jai Maharaj, aka Jay Stevens:

Usenet's Racist Vegetarian Hate Criminal

http://www.geocities.com/drjosemariachi/jay_faq.html

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:38:48 -0800 (PST), fanabba <...@aol.com

Sine you cannot refute his arguments, you are making personal attacks
on Dr. Jai Maharaj.

Anonymous Wrote:

fanabba ("Dr" Jai Maharaj sock puppet) squealed:.

What arguments?

Can you dispute the fact that he (you) is a hate-spewing bigot?

Your (his) bigotry is self evident.

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:25:20 -0500, Patriot Games <...@America.Com

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:58:29 -0600, Peter Perfect
<...@gSNIPTHISPARTmail.com
Yep, that would be YOU.

And:

"Peter Principle" <...@CUTITOUTgmail.comhttp://groups.google.com/group/
alt.politics/msg/c2c1c07 657947d08?hl=en&dmode=source

Yep, definitely a FRAUD.

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@4ax.com pete...@gmail.com posted:

You or some other posted appears to be claiming that
I have sockpuppets posting here. That is not true
as far as I know. Also, no one can substantiate the
claim that I have sockpuppets posting in the
USENET newsgroups or anywhere else because it is false.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

Anonymous Wrote:

"Dr". Jai Maharaj, THE HATE-SPEWING BIGOT squealed:
.
As far as you know?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

How could you possibly not be sure about
whether or not
you are inventing false identies or not
and responding to your own posts?

Wouldn't that be something anyone would be *completely*
certain about?

BRHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous Wrote:

There are forgers around -- I've exposed many of them.

Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

Discussion Title: WHY DOES HATE-SPEWING BIGOT "Dr" JAI MAHARAJ HAVE
HIS OWN FAQ?
Title Keywords: DOES HATE-SPEWING BIGOT "Dr" MAHARAJ HAVE
FAQ?

http://omgili.com/newsgroups/soc/culture/indian/26937400-5fcc-42eb-9256-1b8dfeb2cb9br22g2000vbpgooglegroupscom.html

Who is Dr. Jai Maharaj? And why is he here?
Author Name Remember Me?

Who is Dr. Jai Maharaj? And why is he here?

#1 November 29th 04, 07:37 AM
tony roberts
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

Who is Dr. Jai Maharaj? And why is he here?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How did you people find your way into rec.aviation.piloting?
We ALL rush to misc.writing screenplays and alt callahans anyway to
hang
on your every word,
So to read them again here is just sensory overload.
We therefore request that you to drop the crosspost to us - thereby
leaving us free to look forward to, and savour each and every word of
every post to misc.writing.screenplays.

Thank you so much - we appreciate it.

Tony
--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Anyone know why Dr. Maharaj posts more than anyone else on this and
most of
the other boards?

tony roberts

Ads

#2 November 29th 04, 04:04 PM
Ken Brod
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

From: "Peter Duniho"
Newsgroups:
misc.writing.screenplays,alt.callahans,alt.tv.rea l-
world,alt.tv.sopranos,alt.writing,misc.writing.sc
reenplays,rec.arts.movies.current-films
Subject: Who is Dr. Jai Maharaj? And why is he here?
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:32:50 -0800

Please don't cross-post so liberally. This thread has nothing to do
with
rec.aviation.piloting. If the person in question does post "more than
anyone else on this [sic] and most of the other boards [sic]", it's
only
because he or someone else put so many damn newsgroups on the
"Newsgroups:"
field.

Nor is it okay for you to cross-post so liberally. Please don't cross-
post
in response to an improper cross-post.

k.

Ken Brod
#3 November 29th 04, 04:11 PM
G.R. Patterson III
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

Ken Brod wrote:

Nor is it okay for you to cross-post so liberally. Please don't cross-
post
in response to an improper cross-post.

The only way to reach the original poster and his ilk is to cross-post
exactly
like the original poster did.

George Patterson
My mother is 82 and she still doesn't need glasses.
Drinks right out of the bottle.

G.R. Patterson III
#4 November 29th 04, 04:28 PM
Ken Brod
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
Ken Brod wrote:

Nor is it okay for you to cross-post so liberally. Please don't
cross-post
in response to an improper cross-post.

The only way to reach the original poster and his ilk is to cross-post
exactly
like the original poster did.

George Patterson
My mother is 82 and she still doesn't need glasses.
Drinks right out of the bottle.

No, that's not true. Another way is post a single message in each
group.
Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but two wrongs don't make a right. My
post is a
good case in point: your response went to exactly one group--this one.

And the person to whom I responded did *not* post exactly like the
cross-posting original poster; he cross-posted to every other group
*but*
this one. He obviously thinks it's okay to clutter up other groups
with his
garbage, but not his own.

k.

Ken Brod
#5 November 29th 04, 04:55 PM
G.R. Patterson III
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

Ken Brod wrote:

And the person to whom I responded did *not* post exactly like the
cross-posting original poster; he cross-posted to every other group
*but*
this one. He obviously thinks it's okay to clutter up other groups
with his
garbage, but not his own.

Peter cross-posted to all the other groups and not to this one because
he
knows that the original poster does not frequent this one and would
not see
the message if it appeared here. Peter, on the other hand, does not
frequent
the others, so he doesn't know where the other poster is. It is also
highly
desireable that other posters in those groups see this complaint.

And there's no difference to a reader whether a message is cross-
posted or
individually posted to several groups. In fact, some browsers will
mark a
message as read in all newgroups once someone reads it in one if it's
cross-posted, so cross-posting is preferable for this type of post.

Peter behaved exactly as he should have.

George Patterson
My mother is 82 and she still doesn't need glasses.
Drinks right out of the bottle.

G.R. Patterson III
#6 November 29th 04, 04:58 PM
Ken Brod
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

Ken Brod wrote:

And the person to whom I responded did *not* post exactly like the
cross-posting original poster; he cross-posted to every other group
*but*
this one. He obviously thinks it's okay to clutter up other groups
with
his
garbage, but not his own.

Peter cross-posted to all the other groups and not to this one because
he
knows that the original poster does not frequent this one and would
not
see
the message if it appeared here. Peter, on the other hand, does not
frequent
the others, so he doesn't know where the other poster is. It is also
highly
desireable that other posters in those groups see this complaint.

Peter cross-posted having no idea whether his message was relevant to
the
groups to which he posted. That's wrong. In fact, that's the same
criticism
Peter had for the original poster.

The conversation you and I are having right now is of no relevance to
any
other group. That's I am not involving any other group.

And there's no difference to a reader whether a message is cross-
posted or
individually posted to several groups. In fact, some browsers will
mark a
message as read in all newgroups once someone reads it in one if it's
cross-posted, so cross-posting is preferable for this type of post.

There's a big difference: When people reply to a cross-post, they
generally
repeat the sin of the original post. Again, my posts here are a good
case in
point: We are not bothering any other groups with this exchange. Nor
should
we.

Peter behaved exactly as he should have.

Again, no. Cross-posting material not relevant to a group is wrong.
Period.
And that some knuckle-head (the original poster, not Peter) started it
all
does not transform an irrelevant post into a relevant one. I.e., just
because the original idiot encroached on my group does not make it
okay for
Peter to do the same.

k.

Ken Brod
#7 November 29th 04, 05:22 PM
G.R. Patterson III
external usenet poster Posts: n/a

Ken Brod wrote:

Again, no. Cross-posting material not relevant to a group is wrong.
Period.

I would agree with that. Where we disagree is this. I feel that
Peter's post was
relevant to all of the groups to which it was posted. It was a plea to
not
cross-post to this group.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to
have
been looking for it.

G.R. Patterson III
#8 November 30th 04, 03:32 AM
Walter Bushell
external usenet poster Posts: n/a
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In article ,
"N9NWO" wrote:

"Herbert Becker" wrote in message
...
: Anyone know why Dr. Maharaj posts more than anyone else on this and
most
of
: the other boards?

He is an anti gun idiot who got chased off of Talk.Politics.Guns.

The guy is so political that he needs to be examined by the courts for
mental illness.

He is the reason for soc.culture.hawaiian he caused so much (off
topic)
noise on the alt group, so they wouldn't have to listen.

--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.

http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=19031&mode=linear

Welcome back, Dr. Jai Maharaj Ji !
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:38:15 -0800 (PST), fanabba <...@aol.com

Welcome back, Dr. Jai Maharaj Ji !
We missed you.

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:55:12 +1100, "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
" <...@kangarooistan.com is Malcum Fabian, a lying, arselifting piece
of abo shit ."

Next time aim better.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the
governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about
his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@1g2000vbm.googlegroups.com fanabba <...@aol.com
Dhanyavaad, fanabba ji!
And dhanyavaad for your service to Hindu dharm.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:11:05 -0800 (PST), uNmaiviLambi <...@yahoo.com

On Dec 16, 8:38 am, fanabba <...@aol.com
Welcome Maharajji!

suswaagatham

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@r1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com uNmaiviLambi
<...@yahoo.com

Dhanyavaad uNmaiviLambi ji.
Dhanyavaad for your continued service to Hindu dharm!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:48:51 -0600, "harmony" <...@hotmail.com

"uNmaiviLambi" <...@r1g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 16, 8:38 am, fanabba <...@aol.com
<<Welcome Maharajji!

suswaagatham
well, i see a lot of good decent folks are signing up.
i am planning to host a party for jai maharaj ji in houston.
security will be tighter than was at the whitehouse to discourage
gatecrashers like beer belly.

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@news.suddenlink.net "harmony" <...@hotmail.com

Dhanyavaad. I trust that it won't be too humid in Houston that time
of year. These bullet-proof vests can get quite uncomfortable, you
know. When we met earlier this year a moving-target strategy was
used. You may recall that the seating arrangement had to be changed
at one point. No armor was worn, and you and I were safe, thanks to
the excellent work by the security sleuths.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:53:37 -0600, "harmony" <...@hotmail.com

<...@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai
Maharaj)message news...@WUyRO...

folks, this is an invitation for signing up for a party.
we need one volunteer who can identify the beer belly 50ft away for
pre-emption.

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@news.suddenlink.net "harmony" <...@hotmail.com

Dhanyavaad for the invitation. I'm bringing the guava juice, or
maybe the mango-guava-passion-fruit nectar.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:58:52 +0900, Hunter <...@iinet.net.au

We'll be able to pick you and jai from a mile away.

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:27:05 +0900, Hunter <...@iinet.net.au

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! You think you peices of shit are remotely
significant in the scheme of things??? Don't worry, I don't think
anyone
would waste the cents it would cost for the bullets to put you dogs
down, I'm sure everyone is happy to let the rabies run its' course!
Hahaha stupid fucktards. What happened, did India open it's asylum
doors
and point all of their residents to the West?

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:48:42 -0500, "P. Rajah" <...@newsguy.com

You will note that Jay is apparently having a "conversation" with
"harmony" aka pradipshithead parekh, about what supposedly occurred
during their alleged meeting. Obviously, there is not a shred of
validity to Jay's remarks, for two reasons. One, they would have
already
discussed any "strategy" during the alleged meeting. Second, the
scoundrels and blackguards who form Jay's coterie of VHP terrorists
already converse in password-protected web forums rather than on sci,
and meetings if any are discussed and arranged there. Jay's bombast
here
is merely to stoke his broken ego(and to encourage pradipshithead to
keep sucking his ass) with pretensions of importance.

Discussion Title: Welcome back, Dr. Jai Maharaj Ji !
Title Keywords: Welcome back, Maharaj

http://omgili.com/newsgroups/soc/culture/indian/4e29b711-3a2e-4b20-9546-2872419f7b571g2000vbmgooglegroupscom.html

Mumbai Attackers were 'Hindus' & 'White Men' (hey isn't 'Dr' Jai
Maharaj a hindu?)
Anonymous Wrote:

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/

Anonymous Wrote:

Jay Stevens, aka ""Dr." Jai Maharaj", is a white guy who has delusions
of being an Indian Swami.

BTW, does anybody know where he was when all this crap was happening?

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."
Albert Einstein

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:32:22 -0500, "leo...@primus.ca" <...@primus.ca

On 11/29/08 9:49 PM, in article
d31c...@k12g2000yqk.googlegroups.com,
"mob...@yahoo.com" <...@yahoo.com
Not true!!!

Anonymous Wrote:

moby...@yahoo.com is a Muslim troll. The troll (Faris Jawad)
emigrated from southern India to Canada, where he makes a living as a
computer programmer. One of his IP addresses points to the
intersection of Victoria Ave. and Pinnacle St. in Belleville, Canada,
about 200 km east of Toronto. His account has been banned because he
violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use. The troll uses many
sockpuppet names including: Brain-dead Republicunts, The Pretzel,
Islam, Ramabriga, ourf...@lycos.com, Cosmic programmer,
visu...@yahoo.com, LeBlanc, Islamaphobia, Yaako Warrior,
glob...@yahoo.ca, whil...@live.ca, Matt, Anti-Muslim
Bigots, V-for-Vendicar, fruitella, Zionism equal Racism, The Chemical
Oil Nazi, LORD RAMA RANTER, Muslim With Mission, Wayne, Ian Balchin,
Qahir Al-Ashrar, Venkataraman the Biiiig Hindu, Liu Yan, ISLAMOPHOBIA,
Möbius Pretzel, Buddy III, Mujahid, V i v a P a l e s t i n e!,
Burhan, Farid Ahmed, Kope, Death to Israel..Israel has no Right to
Exist, Franko Pizza, rick murphy, rich murphy, ISLAM - THE SOLUTION OF
MODERN PROBLEMS, Faris Jawad, Sabastawi, The Founding Church, Ilan
Ramon: Kike Lost in Space. Proudly serving Islam and al Quds, Katrina,
Ahura Mazda, TROLLS HUNTER, Kayid Al-Kuffar, Firnando, R Geovani,
Blondes Gaulloises, Zimbawi, Muslims Always Victorious, Islam Will
Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire, Muslims Are Good Folks, Katucha,
katucha is the zionists worst nightmare, We are Muslims, and we are
extremely proud of it, Born To Serve Islam, All praise is due to Allah
Lord of the Worlds, the Owner of all of the creation, Ardalan
Keykavoussi, Tommy Davis, LORD RAMA. (The 19 terrorists who attacked
our nation on September 11, 2001 used a total of 364 aliases.)

Islam is a supremacist political ideology. The Arabs, especially the
Quraish tribe, are, according to Islam, the master race of the
universe. Other Muslims are their helpers, and the rest of us are
called kuffars. According to the sharia law, Arab women cannot marry
non-Arab men because Allah has chosen the Arabs above others. The word
kuffar is as pejorative as the word nigger; it means a non-Muslim
beast in a human form. Muslims who treat the kuffars as human beings
are apostates, so they must be killed, preferably by their own
families. (According to the hadith, a special reward in paradise is
reserved for the killers of apostates.)

Muslims broke world records of genocide (270 million victims),
slavery, religiously sanctioned rape, abuse of human rights, and
prohibition of scientific inquiry. Two years after Adolf Hitler became
the Chancellor, the Haavara Agreement permitted emigration of German
Jews to Palestine. Haj Amin El-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem,
persuaded Adolf Eichmann and Adolf Hitler that Jews should be killed
before they flee Germany.

Islam forbids Muslim emigration to the lands of the infidels because a
Muslim minority cannot enslave the infidel majority. Despite this
prohibition Muslims emigrate to the West, not as migrants, but as
conquerors. They live in sharia mini-states and expand these mini-
states by terrorizing infidel neighbors and driving them out. Any
society not willing to subjugate itself to Islamic authority is,
according to Islam, in a state of war, or Dar al-Harb, with Islam.
Arabic proverb says "first comes Saturday, then Sunday." It means that
Arabs are going to exterminate Jews before they exterminate
Christians. It also means that Israel is the first line of defense
against Islam. Another Arabic proverb (al-fikr kuffar) says that the
very act of thinking (fikr) makes one an infidel (kuffar).

Islam, like cancer, has the sole purpose of making more of itself. It
will kill our civilization unless it is cut, poisoned, and radiated
into remission.

The essence of Islam is intense hatred of the kuffars for the sake of
Allah. Every Muslim indoctrinates his children with this hatred. If
you remove hatred from Islam there is nothing left.
_____________________

“Unbelievers are the vilest of created beings.” - Koran (98:6)

“I have been made victorious with terror.” - Muhammad (according to
Bukhari: 4.52.220)

"Human blood is the life-line of Islam, violence its hallmark, and
hate its foundation. In the beginning, Islam lives on the blood of
infidels. When that is unavailable, or becomes difficult, Islam must
cannibalize itself." - Abul Kasem

In a poll taken for the Davos World Economic Forum, stunning numbers
of Europeans fear a "threat" from Muslims with whom they "interact":
79 percent of Danes, 67 percent of Italians, 68 percent of Spaniards,
65 percent of Swedes and 59 percent of Belgians. source:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0408/blankley042308.php3?printer_friendly

Islam is already the fastest-growing religion in Europe. Driven by
immigration and high birthrates, the number of Muslims on the
continent has tripled in the last 30 years. Most demographers forecast
a similar or even higher rate of growth in the coming decades. source:
http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=60

Europe’s Muslim population is set to increase from around 13% today to
between 22% and 37% of the population by 2025. source:

http://news.scotsman.com/europeanunion/CIA-gives-grim-warning-on.2595505.jp

The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to
3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe.
Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into
Muslim families… By 2025, one-third of all European children will be
born to Muslims… In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five
percent of all murderers are Muslims… France will have a Muslim
majority in less than 25 years! Another telling statistic is that
although the Muslims are 12% of France's population, 70 percent of a
total of 60,775 prisoners in France are Muslims! All of France's urban
suburbs are being roamed by Muslim black African or Arabic gangs… A
very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that
segment of the population that relies not so much on education and
work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one
thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France.
Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent"
and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges
from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are
Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and
street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants… source:
http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

Muslim per-capita arrest rate on terrorism-related charges in the
United States is 2.5 times higher than in Europe… If the United
States, despite the much better socio-economic standing of its
Muslims, suffers from 2.5 times more terrorism per capita than does
Europe, socio-economic improvements are unlikely to solve Europe's
problems.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=932DF90B-4644-49A7-A754-C26
3BF74DE9B

"Like children playing with dynamite, Western intellectuals,
journalists, and diplomats fantasize that they are achieving results
in the Middle East with their words, promises, apologies, money, and
concessions. Yet how can such innocents cope… with polities and
societies whose basic ruling ethos is that of the serial killer?… Can
anyone really expect a stable society capable of progress in Pakistan
when a large majority of the population expresses admiration for Usama
bin Ladin? And what about the Saudi system where, as one local writer
put it, the big Usama put into practice what the little Usama learned
in a Saudi school?… The radical forces in the region are not expecting
to retain or gain power by negotiating, compromising, or being better
understood. They believe they are going to shoot their way into power
or, just as good, accept the surrender of those they have intimidated.
That is why so much of the Western analysis and strategies for dealing
with the region are a bad joke." - Barry Rubin, source:
http://globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=3952&cid=6&sid=20

"Europe is being targeted for deliberate colonization by Muslim
states, and with coordinated efforts aimed at our Islamization and the
elimination of our freedoms. We are being subject to a foreign
invasion, and aiding and abetting a foreign invasion in any way
constitutes treason. If non-Europeans have the right to resist
colonization and desire self-determination then Europeans have that
right, too. And we intend to exercise it." - "Fjordman" source:
http://www.islam-watch.org/Fjordman/European-Declaration-Independence.htm

"We must not recognize any government authority, or any authority at
all besides Allah… We are not Americans. We are Muslims… We will burn
down the master's house. We reject the U.N., reject America, reject
all law and order. Don't lobby Congress or protest because we don't
recognize Congress. The only relationship you should have with America
is to topple it… The so-called terrorists are the only people who
truly fear Allah… We must join with these organizations. They are the
only worthy causes, and the mighty superpower only fears them…
Eventually there will be a Muslim in the White House dictating the
laws of Shariah." - Muhammad Faheed (Muslim Student Association
speaker, USA) source:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31571

It is Islamic violence which threatens Holland and all of Europe.
Exactly as in the 1930s, it is the weakness of European leaders which
allows the threat to grow. Just as the League of Nations refused to
stand up to fascism in pre-WW2 Europe, the United Nations grovels
before Islam today. source: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2414

"There does not exist an identifiable body of Muslims, substantive in
number or an outright majority, who could be described as "moderate"
by their repudiation of Muslim extremists. Violence has been an
integral part of Muslim history, irrespective of whether it is
sanctioned by Islam, and Muslims who unhesitatingly use violence to
advance their political ambitions have created a climate within their
faith culture that any Muslim who questions such practice is then
deemed apostate and subject to harm. Consequently, what might pass for
"moderate" Muslims, the large number of Muslims unaccounted for as to
what they think, in practical terms constitute a forest within which
extremists are incubated, nurtured, given ideological and material
support, and to which they return for sanctuary." - Salim Mansur

"A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners
who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance: try
making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or
Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't
live five minutes." source:

http://citizenwarrior2.blogspot.com/2007/10/taqiyya-religious-deception.html

“Muslims who share the same goals as Osama bin Laden but are pursuing
them through non-violent means are celebrated by gullible Westerners
as moderates.” - Robert Spencer

65% Muslims favor Caliphate, 71% Muslims favor “strict application of
Shari’a law in every Islamic country.” source:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/apr07/START_Apr07_rpt.pdf
(Only the Caliph can wage offensive jihad and offensive jihad is his
main duty.)

"To say that moderate Islam is the solution to radical Islam implies
several things: that moderate Islam exists; that it represents the
true (though perhaps currently disregarded) norm of Islam; and that
radical Islam is a departure from that norm." - Lawrence Auster

At what point is it okay to fight dictators like Saddam or the al
Qaeda terrorists who want to take his place? It turns out that the
answer, according to Gandhi, is NEVER. During World War II, Gandhi
penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender
to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he
criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as
they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered
themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown
themselves into the sea from cliffs.” “Collective suicide,” he told
his biographer, “would have been heroism.” source:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTM1NTg1YjFhMGE5MzZjZDUzNzNhNzdkMjE2YmEyNT
Y

What Islam is not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8789NMWZ9EI

Tears of Jihad: http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad

Muslim persecution of Christians: http://tinyurl.com/5rro8p
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html

American Muslim leader Khalid Abdul Muhammad speaks about whites (2
min. video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJh_mNXPw-E

Hate preaching in Western mosques (2 min. video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tWTtveFL8

Muslims in America (3 min. video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ

Islam's war on freedom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIq7tsVvEoY

Islam is conquering England: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8aQtoE4nZM

Young Talib beheads Ghulam Nabi: http://tinyurl.com/2rb2e3

Shariah finance = jihad with money:
http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/home/18-headline-item/518-shariah-compli
ant-finance-jihad-with-money

The Third Jihad (32 min. video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a11RyysChYc

History of Jihad: http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/History_of_Jihad

Islam = illiteracy, poverty and backwardness:
http://www.islam-watch.org/SujitDas/Holy-Islam-Illiteracy-Poverty-Backwardness.
htm

Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against the West: http://europenews.dk/en/node/5811

Brigitte Gabriel explains Islamic terror (40 min. video):
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9D6A6635769F608D

Latest offerings from the religion of peace: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Brigitte Gabriel founded ACT, the most effective anti-Islamist
organization in the U.S.: http://www.actforamerica.org/

ACT also has international chapters:

http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/local-chapters/international-chapters

Anonymous Wrote:

The bushfilth gets off on torture and murder,
even that of children and babies.

Discussion Title: Mumbai Attackers were 'Hindus' & 'White Men' (hey
isn't 'Dr' Jai Maharaj a hindu?)
Title Keywords: Mumbai Attackers were 'Hindus' 'White Men' (hey
isn't 'Dr' Maharaj hindu?)

http://omgili.com/newsgroups/alt/politics/gw-bush/d31c5832-11cd-421a-9034-19ed2c2eac5ak12g2000yqkgooglegroupscom.html

Thank you, Dr. Jai Maharaj
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:38:51 -0700 (PDT), fanabba <...@aol.com

Thank you, Dr. Jai Maharaj, for your timely and important postings in
this newsgroup.

Anonymous Wrote:

In article <...@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com fanabba <...@aol.com
You are quite welcome.

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:12:33 -0500, "harmony" <...@hotmail.com

"fanabba" <...@j35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

jai maharaj ji: the one and only, the vip of newsnet.
i say it with all sincerity.

Anonymous Wrote:

On Mar 18, 1:12 am, "harmony" <...@hotmail.com
The good doctor is the longest serving sci member. He's outlasted all
his detractors.

Three cheers for him.

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:17:28 GMT, NYST <...@you.know

Unlike his "detractors", Jay Stevens is on the payroll of the saffron
klan. His website underwent a major redesign in 1998 when the BJP
formed
the government in New Delhi. People who have regular jobs are
absolutely
unable to flood Usenet with the consistency and volume that Jay puts
out. As a matter of fact, Verizon considers him a major spammer, and
filters him out of their newsfeeds. A good thing too. Tens of millions
of Americans don't have his sh*t inflicted on them.

http://omgili.com/newsgroups/soc/culture/indian/548868ec-9e02-4e9c-8c3d-626083b7b6acj35g2000yqhgooglegroupscom.html

Sid Harth

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"Dr." Jai Maharaj is actually Jay/Johnny Stevens from Hawaii. He has
no
higher education qualifications and is not a doctor of anything. This
claim to being a doctor is just one of his many lies that he uses to
try
and prey on people who are in pain in order to get at what little
money
they have. He is a spammer of long standing on usenet (newsgroups). He
is also an anti-Christian and anti-Muslim religious bigot.

http://www.varioustopics.com/arthritis/250012-re-dr-khalsas-simple-secrets-for-life-without-chronic-pain.html

The liquidateous History of Christianity

"Dr. Jai Maharaj" Information

This person's game is to use outdated articles to attract people to
his website, where he sells psychic services. What's most amusing is
that many of the groups to which his messages are crossposted do not
exist. He plagues many USENET groups. His standard method of
responding to an attack on his credibility is to repost the original
article or to post the sender's personal contact information and
threaten to report the sender to his-her ISP for spamming or making
threats (the very definition of irony).

Some info re: Jai Maharaj:

Chinas Coming Collapse A Danger To Us All

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:02:18 GMT, Otis Willie PPP: China has gone
through many unthinkable hardships to come...

mantra.com Mantra Corporation P. O. Box 1919 Honolulu HI, 96792-68
plus 119 US IP Address 206.126.0.13 flex.com Business Enbreasty Name:
MANTRA CORPORATION Record Type: Master Name for a Domestic Profit
Corporation File Number: 82087 D1 Status: Active Purpose: BUSINESS
CONSULTING, MARKETING,ADVERTISING AND RELATED SERVICES Place
Incorporated: Hawaii 1919 WAIANAE Hawaii 96792-68 plus 119 United
States of America Officer Information STEVENS,JAY R (possibly "Jai
Maharaj") MILLER,JOAN E (possibly "Harmony") 11-30-1990 Articles of
Incorporation

Flex.com 206.126.0.0 - 206.126.15.255 P.O.Box 22481 Honolulu, HI
96823-2481 US

IP Address 206.126.0.13

EMAIL PROTECTED Flexnet, Inc. Flex Information Network 808.732.8849
HAWAII Email: PROTECT ED 's First Public Access Internet Provider IP
Address: 199.201.240.1

hindu.org Himalayan Academy *107 Kaholalele Road* Kapaa, HI 11111 US
IP Address 64.75.159.118

Quite a few domains not worth mentioning here...

His "real" name is supposed to be Jay Stevens.

A member of the "flame Jay Stevens" group is "Jose Mariachi", )another
self-proclaimed "doctor"?)..."Mariachi" web site could be another
bogus cash grab remarkably similar to Stevens' site, mantra.com.

Here's a Jai FAQ long

http://www.jucee.org/China/The-liquidateous-History-of-Christianity.html

Sid Harth

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When I feel ashamed to be a Muslim!

By Firoz Bakht Ahmed
IANS
Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 12:35 IST

As a Muslim, my head goes down in shame each time I find a Muslim name
attached to insane acts of terror. I feel let down by such Muslims. It
agonises me when I hear that Muslim tenants are refused accommodation
in many cities. Recently, in London, a Muslim of Indian origin was
arrested for suspected _link_s to the terror plot aimed at blowing up
planes flying from Britain to the US. Sane Muslim voices aren't loudly
heard. Even British Muslims condemning the July 7 London bombings
added a but (root cause) to their denunciation. Killings of innocents
cannot be justified for any reason. Many Muslims are guilty of not
speaking out against what happened in Darfur while many are guilty of
being sympathetic to Saddam Hussein who was responsible for the deaths
of thousands. Many Muslims are guilty of not speaking out against the
unjust acts of fellow Muslims against non-Muslims. O terrorists!
Whatever you do, however many of us you kill will not stop life where
freedom is strong and people can live in harmony. Whatever you do,
however many you kill, you will fail. Extremist attacks anywhere are
acts depravity and wickedness - planned to take innocent lives. It is
not the weapon of the weak against the strong but one of the angry
against the defenceless and innocent. The terror attacks on the
makeshift Ram temple at Ayodhya was aimed at derailing the India-
Pakistan peace process besides damaging the country's secular fabric.
Muslims must openly condemn terror attacks so that they do not get
clubbed with the terrorists on account of their silence. Note that
'jehad' is the most misunderstood and misconstrued concept by non-
Muslims, and even Muslims. The true concept of jehad is not to be
against other communities, groups or religions but against one's
selfish nature, vices and shortcomings. First an individual wages
jehad against himself to get cleansed. He then continues the efforts
with his wife, family, locality and the entire community. This is
Jehad-e-Akbar, the right meaning of jehad. Muslims must come out
openly on the streets against terror outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba, Al
Qaeda, Harkat-ul- Ansar, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Sipah-
e- Sahaba and such others. Today Islam is under scanner because many
people have come to believe that the religion advocates violence. Not
all of them can be wrong as people judge by what they see. Today
terrorists speak and act violently in the name of Islam. The
terrorists who struck on Mumbai's trains in July sought to drive a
wedge between Hindus and Muslims. Militants have no religion except
death and destruction of the innocent. At the same time, the
government must find out if these tragedies take place because of
security lapses or whether the fight against terrorism has slackened.
It is perplexing how terrorists repeatedly gain entry into sensitive
areas despite heavy security. Indian Hindus and Muslims are to be
congratulated for acting with restraint following the Mumbai disaster.
Given the fluid communal situation in India, the saner elements in the
communities should take adequate steps to thwart attempts by
communalists to play up such incidents. (Firoz Bakht Ahmed, writer of
this article, is a commentator on social, educational and political
issues. He can be reached at firozba...@rediffmail.comThis e-mail
address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled
to view it ) More at:

http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEH20060817021347&_title_=T...


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Pakistan let al-Qaida front fund UK plot

GLOBAL INSECURITY Pakistan let al-Qaida front fund UK plot Terror war
'ally' didn't outlaw 'charitable' group even after U.S. blacklisted it
WorldNetDaily.com Wednesday, August 16, 2006 WorldNetDaily has learned
that ally Pakistan failed to outlaw an al-Qaida charitable front after
it was tied to last year's London bombings, and the inaction allowed
the charity to finance the new London-_base_d plot to bomb U.S.-bound
jetliners. On April 28, the U.S. Department of State added Pakistan-
_base_d Jamaat-Ud-Dawa to its blacklist of Specially Designated Global
Terrorist Organizations. But the Pakistani government did not follow
suit. Islamabad neglected to blacklist Jamaat-Ud-Dawa (JUD) or freeze
its assets, allowing the al-Qaida front to continue to operate legally
inside Pakistan's borders. Authorities have traced money for the
British sky terror operation back to the JUD charity. Funds were
funneled through three separate bank accounts in Pakistan. The money
was to be used by the Pakistani-British suicide bombers to buy plane
tickets for dry runs and the final targeted flights. JUD is _base_d in
Lahore, where at least one of last year's London bombers received aid,
and maintains branches in Karachi and Peshawar. Ringleader Mohammed
Sidique Khan visited a madrassa (Islamic school) run by JUD in Lahore
just before the July 2005 attacks. Sources say Scotland Yard is
furious that terror-war partner Islamabad failed to dismantle the
Pakistan-_base_d terror infrastructure that supported the London
bombings. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf vowed to crack down on
militant groups in Lahore and Karachi in the wake of last year's
attacks. U.S. authorities, meanwhile, are pressing Musharraf to close
at least four known al-Qaida training camps operating inside Pakistan.
Experts say Al-Qaida's inner circle has found sanctuary in Pakistan.
Osama bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan in the northern tribal areas
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Jonah Goldberg: Islamic radicals, Nazism _link_ed

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Jonah Goldberg: Islamic radicals, Nazism _link_ed

By Jonah Goldberg The Union Leader Manchester, N.H.

http://www.unionleader.com

Tuesday, August 22, 2006

The Jews everywhere are the Muslims' bitter enemies, said a prominent
Islamic leader. Throughout history, the irreconcilable enemy of Islam
has conspired and schemed and oppressed and persecuted 40 million
Muslims, he said. In Palestine, the Jews are establishing a _base_
from which to extend their power over neighboring Islamic countries.
And, he proclaimed, this war, which was unleashed by the world Jewry,
provided Muslims the best opportunity to free themselves from these
instances of persecution and oppression. Sound like Hezbollah leader
Sheik Hassan Nasrallah? Or perhaps Iranian President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad? Nope. It was the grand mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-
Husseini, in 1942. An ardent Nazi supporter, al-Husseini delivered his
speech at the opening of the Islamic Institute in Berlin, one day
after the Allies denounced the Nazis, for carrying into effect Hitlers
oft-repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people in Europe. Al-
Husseini's address was approved by Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von
Ribbentrop, and Joseph Goebbels was in attendance. The Reich press
office widely distributed the comments. President Bush undoubtedly
didn't have any of this in mind last week when he dubbed our enemies
in the War on Terror Islamic fascists. But his comments

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Tirupati Declaration:

Hindus of the world unite

Wednesday, August 23, 2006

With Hinduism under siege from various quarters, it was time for a
show of unity and purpose. And that is what was witnessed at the
historic meeting of Tirumala Tirupati Samrakshana Samiti (TTSS) at
Tirupati Saturday last. The meeting's purpose was simple and
straightforward ? to show in no uncertain terms the protest against
the rampant and brazen evangelical activities in Tirupati and Tirmula
by Christian missionaries. Led by the two most respectable and revered
sawmijis in our midst today, Swami Dayanand Saraswati and Vishveshwara
Theertha Swami of Pejawar Mutt, the meeting, made a clarion call
against the sinister attempts at proselytization by the missionaries
and adopted the historical Tirupati Declaration. The following are the
three cardinal Articles of this Historic Declaration: I) We Hindus
assembled here declare that we do not support, directly or indirectly,
any group, institution, religion, media, or political force, which
preaches, practices or works against Hindu dharma in this country. ii)
We appeal to all the Hindus in this country and elsewhere to subscribe
to and support this declaration, the Tirupathi declaration. iii) We
want all the Hindu religious endowments to be managed by Hindu bodies,
and not by the government. We want the secular government to release
all religious endowments from its hold. In addition to the above
declarations, the following resolutions were also adopted unanimously:
a) Immediate action must be taken to bring under TTD control over 250
sq. kilometre area covering various Theerthams closely associated with
the legend of Lord Venkateswara as against the 27.5 sq. kilometres
under Andhra Pradesh Government order (G.O.) No.338. In this context,
they quoted Mackenzie's manu_script_ of the year 1801 as per which the
Seven Hills extended up to the Swarnamukhi River near Sri Kalahasti in
the east, Nagapatala Devarakonda in the west, Yerraguntla Thota in
Rayachoti Taluk in the north and Pillari Kanuma near Narayana Vanam in
the south. Such a law would ward off any threat of non-Hindu
activities on the Seven Hills. b) Only Hindus by law should be made
eligible for appointment in TTD Service. c) Andhra Pradesh Government
should immediately give up its plans to convert Tirumala into a luxury
tourist spot. d) There should be a legal ban on all non-Hindu
activities in TTD. medical and educational institutions. e) TTD funds
should be used only for Hindu spiritual activities. f) The Dharma
Prachara Parishad should be renamed as Hindu Dharma Prachara Parishad.
Speaking on the prohibition of non-Hindu appointments in TTD, the
Swamijis urged that immediate steps should be taken to deport 40
Christian employees and other non- Hindus at Tirumala. The Swamijis
alleged that the TTD's medical and educational institutions have
become centres of proselytisation by non-Hindus. They demanded that
the Devastanam should punish those non-Hindus indulging in such
evangelical activities and identify the TTD and State Government
Officials encouraging them directly or indirectly and to transfer them
from Tirupati forthwith. The TTSS also charged TTD with diverting
devotees' offerings to other activities owing to Government political
pressure. 'These offerings made by Hindu devotees were meant for
running temples, conducting religious festivals and providing pilgrim
amenities and propagating Hindu Dharma. They are not meant for the
evangelization programmes of Andhra Pradesh Government under a
Christian Chief Minister,' they said. The TTSS also expressed its deep
concern over the increase in evangelical activities at Tirumala and
Tirupati and cited the documentary evidence adduced by the Five Member
Fact Finding Committee appointed by the Pontiff of Pejawar with
Justice Bikshapathi, former High Court Judge as its head. The meet
also cited High Court Ruling which said: 'The rights of Tirumala-
Tirupati vest with Lord Venkateswara himself and the Trust Board and
the EO are only trustees of the property. None can take any measures
violating the right. All the Seven Hills fall under Tirumala (W.P. No.
26145 of 1996-97(2) and 59 (D dated 7.9.1996). In conclusion, Pejawar
Swamiji categorically told media persons that the Members of the TTSS
fervently hope that their legitimate demand would be acted upon before
9 August, 2006 and that further action by the TTSS would be decided
after ascertaining the nature, intention and direction of Government
response. A host of other influential Swamijis from different parts of
India including Varada Ramanuja Jeeyar from Uttar Pradesh and Members
of the Tirupati Fact Finding Committee, T S Rao, former Director
General of Police, R. Srihari, former Vice Chancellor of the Dravidian
University, Krishniah, State Backward Classes Welfare Leader and other
prominent persons also attended the meeting. Several thousand Devotees
deeply concerned about the need for protecting the Seven Hills and the
Tirupati Temple joined in in the call. V.Sundaram In News Today More
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Divine will inscrutable

The Hindu A paradox that often confounds the common man is why even
those who are righteous often face sorrows and moral dilemmas testing
their fidelity to Dharm. As all human beings are subject to Karm, they
have to face both joy and sorrow in worldly life and hence adherence
to Dharm is bound to create conflict in the mind in life situations
but it is essential to resolve doubts that arise in day-to-day life.
Yudhishthir's predicament after the Mahabharat war is a pointer that
even the virtuous person finds it difficult to face the vagaries of
life with equanimity. In his discourse, Nochur Shri Venkataraman said
Dharmputra's (Yudhishthir) allegiance to Dharm was so total that even
the Lord came only second in his reckoning. So he blamed himself for
bringing about the fratricidal war, which had resulted in so much loss
of life. It did not occur to him who was a devotee of Krishna that
Dharm was subject to the divine will and that there is no Dharm above
the Lord. He had only a role to play in the divine scheme and thus
there was no need to blame himself for the outcome of the war. Lord
Krishna had gone as the envoy of the Pandavs to Hastinapura to convey
Yudhishthir's wish to find an amicable solution and avert a war. But
that was not to be. Only Vidur and Krishna remained unperturbed during
this calamity because the former was a man of wisdom and the latter
the Almighty, who had manifested in the world to reinstate Dharm. Thus
even a righteous person will face sorrows in life and only a realised
person will remain unaffected by the vicissitudes of life. Dharmputra
expressed his remorse when Lord Krishna came to bid farewell to Kunti
and the Pandavs, and it was then that He directed him to Bheeshm, who
was lying on a bed of arrows, awaiting for the auspicious hour
(Uttarayan) to shed his mortal coil, to learn the nuances of Dharm
from him. The Pandavs and Lord Krishna accompanied him. Bheeshm then
advised Yudhishthir, No man can ever discover the intention of Shri
Krishna; even seers get bewildered in their seeking to find it out.
Therefore, knowing it for certain that all these events depend on the
will of Providence, O chief of Bharatas, follow His will, ruler of
men, and protect the helpless people, as you are their sole monarch.
Then he enlightened Yudhishthir about the intricacies of Dharm. More
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UNDERSTANDING ENGINEERS

Forwarded message Understanding Engineers -

Take One Two engineering students were walking across a university
campus when one said, Where did you get such a great bike? The second
engineer replied, Well, I was walking along yesterday, minding my own
business, when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike, threw it to the
ground, took off all her clothes and said, Take what you want. The
second engineer nodded approvingly and said, Good choice; the clothes
probably wouldn't have fit you anyway. Understanding Engineers - Take
Two To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it
needs to be. Understanding Engineers - Take Three A priest, a doctor,
and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group
of golfers. The engineer fumed, What's with those blokes? We must have
been waiting for fifteen minutes! The doctor chimed in, I don't know,
but I've never seen such inept golf! The priest said, Here comes the
greens keeper. Let's have a word with him. He said, Hello, George!
what's wrong with that group ahead of us? They're rather slow, aren't
they? The greens keeper replied, Oh, yes. That's a group of blind fire
fighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last
year, so we always let them play for free anytime. The group fell
silent for a moment. Then the priest said, That's so sad. I think I
will say a special prayer for them tonight. The doctor said, Good
idea. I'm going to contact my ophthalmologist colleague and see if
there's anything he can do for them. The engineer said, Why can't they
play at night? Understanding Engineers - Take Four What is the
difference between mechanical engineers and civil engineers?
Mechanical engineers build weapons; civil engineers build targets.
Understanding Engineers - Take Five The graduate with a science degree
asks, Why does it work? The graduate with an engineering degree asks,
How does it work? The graduate with an accounting degree asks, How
much will it cost? The graduate with an arts degree asks, Do you want
fries with that? Understanding Engineers - Take Six Three engineering
students were gathered together discussing the possible designers of
the human body. One said, It was a mechanical engineer. Just look at
all the joints. Another said, No, it was an electrical engineer. The
nervous system has many thousands of electrical connections. The last
one said, No, actually it had to have been a civil engineer. Who else
would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?
Understanding Engineers - Take Seven Normal people believe that if it
ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broke,
it doesn't have enough features yet. Understanding Engineers - Take
Eight An engineer was crossing a road one day, when a frog called out
to him and said, If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess.
He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket. The frog
spoke up again and said, If you kiss me and turn me back into a
beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week. The engineer
took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it to the
pocket. The frog then cried out, If you kiss me and turn me back into
a Princess, I'll stay with you for one week and do ANYTHING you want.
Again, the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back
into his pocket. Finally, the frog asked, What is the matter? I've
told you I'm a beautiful princess, and that I'll stay with you for one
week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me? The engineer
said, I don't have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog, now
that's cool. End of forwarded message Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om
Shanti

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CHRISTIAN PASTOR CONVICTED OF RAPING 3 WOMEN

Pastor guilty of sex assault Hornbuckle drugged, attacked 3 women,
jury finds after 33 hours

By Jeff Mosier

The Dallas Morning News Wednesday,

August 23, 2006 Fort Worth -

Terry Hornbuckle bowed slightly and church members held hands as a
judge announced Tuesday that the Arlington minister was guilty of
sexually assaulting three women. [Caption] Terry Hornbuckle (center)
is facing two to 20 years in prison, but could also be eligible for
probation. The Tarrant County jury's verdict ended more than 33 hours
of deliberations spanning a week. Jurors began hearing testimony
shortly afterward to determine whether Mr. Hornbuckle deserves
probation or two to 20 years in prison for his crimes. The sentences
will run concurrently. Photo by Michael Ainsworth / DMN I think that
the evidence was strong, and the defendant was guilty, prosecutor Sean
Colston said after the verdict was announced. That's what turned the
case. Mr. Colston said that anything less than the maximum sentence
would be inappropriate for Mr. Hornbuckle, founder of Agape Christian
Fellowship church. Two of his victims were church members, and one
testified that she was a virgin when the minister drugged and raped
her shortly after her 21st birthday. Defense attorney Mike Heiskell
said that he never argues with the jury's decision but that he would
try to convince them that probation is a fair sentence. Mr. Hornbuckle
has no prior criminal record. We hope the jury will see the redemptive
side of Terry Hornbuckle, Mr. Heiskell said. The three women all
testified that Mr. Hornbuckle drugged them. Two said they were raped
either while they were blacked out or groggy from a drug. One of the
victims tested positive for benzodiazepine, a class of drug that can
cause drowsiness and amnesia. Defense attorneys argued during the
trial that Mr. Hornbuckle was a playboy outside the pulpit and that
any extramarital sex was consensual. Mr. Hornbuckle's wife, Renee, who
is now senior pastor at Agape, declined through a spokesman to comment
after the verdict. Charles Richardson, chairman of the Agape board of
directors, said church officials would make a statement after the
trial ends. Mrs. Hornbuckle, who sat through the entire trial -
including testimony about her husband's womanizing and drug use - sat
ramrod straight when the verdict was read by state District Judge
Scott Wisch. The handful of church members remaining in the courtroom
held hands, a common practice during Agape services. Mr. Richardson
grasped Mrs. Hornbuckle's shoulder and murmured: I'm sorry. I'm really
sorry. In accordance with Judge Wisch's warnings, there was no crying
or other overt display of emotion in the audience when the verdict was
read. Church members had filled the courtroom at the beginning of the
three-week trial, but the number had dwindled to barely more than a
half-dozen at the end. Leon Haley, one of Mr. Hornbuckle's attorneys,
said this week he was hopeful of a not-guilty verdict. He said that a
lawyer's rule of thumb is that the longer a jury deliberates, the
better the chance that it will find the defendant not guilty. The
prosecutors, defense attorneys and judge said they had never
participated in a case in which a jury deliberated so long. Jurors
began discussing the cases about 4:15 p.m. the previous Tuesday. They
sent 41 notes to the judge asking to look at evidence, requesting
legal definitions and calling for copies of testimony. Judge Wisch
said this week that there was no indication that the jury was
deadlocked despite the large number of notes and long deliberations.
About 3:30 p.m. Tuesday, the jury sent its 42nd note, saying that it
had reached a unanimous verdict. For two weeks, the jury listened to
sordid and sometimes explicit testimony about the three separate rape
cases. The first victim, a longtime Agape member, told jurors that her
mistake was trusting the man who baptized her. The woman said Mr.
Hornbuckle lured her to a Euless apartment, where he fed her drugged
punch after she rejected his repeated requests to get her drink on.
After waking up naked, she tried to get dressed but was held down by
Mr. Hornbuckle and raped, she said. The second victim, who used the
pseudonym Jane Doe on the witness stand, said that Mr. Hornbuckle
began counseling her when her boyfriend left. She said she didn't want
to have sex with the minister but that he exploited her emotional
vulnerability and his position of authority. The third victim, whose
pseudonym was Kate Jones, was not an Agape church member. She said she
met Mr. Hornbuckle at a Bedford health club, where he used a fake name
and claimed to be a counselor for Dallas Cowboys rookies and a former
NFL p_layer_. She testified that she and Mr. Hornbuckle smoked
methamphetamine before he drugged and raped her in her home. The
punishment phase started late Tuesday afternoon with testimony about a
glass pipe, lighter and bag of methamphetamine in Mr. Hornbuckle's
Cadillac Escalade after he was arrested. Mr. Heiskell noted that there
has already been testimony about Mr. Hornbuckle's drug problems, and
he called his client a meth addict. Mr. Hornbuckle's bail was revoked
twice for failing drug tests and once for failing to provide a urine
sample for a drug test. He has been held in the Tarrant County jail
since March without bail. Testimony will continue at 9 a.m. today.
Staff writer Laurie Fox contributed to this report. THE CHARGES A look
at the rape charges against Terry Hornbuckle: o The first accuser, a
member of Mr. Hornbuckle's church, testified that he served her fruit
punch with a drug in it and that she woke up naked. The woman said
that when she tried to get dressed, Mr. Hornbuckle held her down and
raped her. o The second accuser, using the pseudonym Jane Doe, said
her pastor made sexual advances after she went to him for counseling.
She said she eventually had sex with him because it seemed easier. o
The third woman, who testified as Kate Jones, said she met Mr.
Hornbuckle at a fitness club. She said Mr. Hornbuckle drugged and
raped her after they smoked methamphetamine together. TIMELINE 1986 -
Mr. Hornbuckle founds Victory Temple Bible Church in Arlington with 15
members. 1987 - He moves his church to a vacant Dairy Queen. Nov. 26,
1988 - Mr. Hornbuckle and Renee Fowler marry. 1988 - Victory Temple
moves to Fort Worth with 165 members. 1992 - Victory Temple changes
its name to Agape Christian Fellowship. 1995 - Agape moves to an 8,000-
square-foot building. It has 250 members. May 16, 1999 - Agape holds a
grand opening for its 30,000-square-foot church called The Destiny
Center. July 27, 2003-Sept. 1, 2004 - Time period in which Mr.
Hornbuckle's three accusers say he raped them. Dec. 29, 2004 - Mr.
Hornbuckle is accused of tampering with a witness. Dec. 30, 2004 - Mr.
Hornbuckle is accused of retaliation. March 11, 2005 - Mr. Hornbuckle
is indicted on four counts of sexual assault involving three women. He
is arrested and found with methamphetamine. April 15, 2005 - Mr.
Hornbuckle is charged with possession of methamphetamine. April 17,
2005 - Mr. Hornbuckle is reinstated as senior pastor of Agape. He had
been suspended after his arrest.

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NUCLEAR WAR-FEAR Cataclysm fears raised on Islamic 'holy' date Mideast
experts worry Islamic fanatics seeking heaven may spark violence
August 21, 2006

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Bharat-US nuke deal: BJP'S STAND VINDICATED

BJP's stand vindicated

By Vivek Gumaste

The Pioneer Tuesday, August 22, 2006

The assertion that the BJP's strident agitation against the proposed
India-US civil nuclear cooperation deal has fallen flat in the face of
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's feisty rejoinder in Parliament is a
simplistic conclusion to a complicated issue. It belies the fact that
Mr Singh's much delayed rebuttal was prompted by the relentless
opposition of the BJP for whom it represents the successful
culmination of a long and conscientious campaign. An analysis of the
sequence of events following the July 18 deal tells the story of a
model Opposition guided by national security and genuinely empathetic
to the concerns of its scientists, rather than one driven by partisan
political interests. The sweeping claim by some that the BJP's
argument was inherently fragile and _base_d on blind opposition to the
UPA Government is fallacious. As recently as three days prior to the
Prime Minister's path-breaking speech in Parliament, eight eminent
scientists, including three former chairmen of the Atomic Energy
Commission (AEC), voiced specific _object_ions to the nuclear
cooperation deal. The fact that this time Mr Manmohan Singh consulted
with AEC chairman Anil Kakodkar, till recently a staunch critic of the
deal, in preparing his response, validates the stance of the
Opposition. Another key factor was former Prime Minister Atal Bihari
Vajpayee's opposition to the deal. The admission by Mr Manmohan Singh
that goal posts have been changed and the reassurance that subsequent
additions by extraneous sources like the US Congress and NSG will not
be allowed to influence the agreement, vindicates this anxiety and
aborts backdoor methods to muzzle India's strategic intentions.
Executive decisions regarding international treaties have so far
remained beyond the purview of Parliament. The Prime Minister's offer
to have the final treaty ratified by Parliament along the lines of the
US system is a welcome by-product of this imbroglio, reinforcing the
principle of collective responsibility. In contrast to previous
statements, Mr Manmohan Singh's latest speech was a success as it was
a frank, honest and sincere attempt to address the concerns of all
parties involved: A change effected in no small measure by the BJP in
particular and the Communists to a lesser extent. More at:
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'Our relatives are traders not terrorists'

By Syed Firdaus Ashraf in Mumbai

Rediff Thursday, August 24, 2006

Is keeping beard a sin in this world? screams Abdul Kadar Kolsawala,
70, on the top of his voice in his two- room apartment at Memon Colony
in Jogeshwari, a north- western suburb of Mumbai. The terrorists get
away all the time but it is only innocent Muslims who are caught, says
Kadar. It has become difficult to move around with a beard. The police
doubt your credentials all the time. My son is innocent and he has
nothing to do with terrorism, he adds. Kolsawala's son Ayub was
detained by the Dutch police along with eight friends and two cooks at
Schipol airport, Amsterdam, on Wednesday. He was one of the passengers
travelling by a Northwest Airlines flight to Mumbai on Wednesday,
which flew back to Amsterdam after the pilot asked for help. The plane
was escorted back by F-16 fighters. My son had gone with friends in
connection with his garment business in Port of Spain in the West
Indies, said Kolsawala. According to him, Ayub must have been seated
with his group, which probably raised the suspicions of the cabin
crew. Eleven Muslim passengers sitting together must have made the
airline crew uneasy, says Kolsawala. Ayub Kolsawala and with his group
had gone to attend a trade fair and had been in Trinidad for the last
35 days. They go to different trade fairs abroad where they sell
garments from India. They have been doing so for the last 10 years and
have visited many countries. We knew they were on the plane which was
grounded but were shocked to see their names in the detained list on
television, said Shabana Batliwala, wife of Iqbal Batliwala, a friend
of Ayub. My husband goes abroad regularly for business trips and he is
a trader. He has nothing to do with terrorism. I am shocked that he
has been detained, she adds. Out of the 12 passengers, six are from
Memon Colony in Jogeshwari, three from the nearby Behram Baug and
three are from South Mumbai. The entire neighbourhood in this colony
of Muslims in Jogeshwari, is shocked to learn that their neighbours
have been detained. The Memons hail from Gujarat and are Sunni
Muslims. They are mostly involved in trading or business. The family
members are also upset that no one from the Indian consulate in teh
Netherlands or the Mumbai police had bothered to inform them about
their relatives' detention. Farzeen Chotani started crying when she
came to know that her husband Shakeel Usman Chotani had been detained.
My husband travels frequently. He has nothing to do with terrorism. I
just hope he is released soon, said Farzeen. Shakeel last called
Farzeen on Monday when he told her about his travel plans to Mumbai. I
thought he would arrive by Wednesday night. When I came to know that
plane was grounded, I thought he would be a delayed by a day or two.
Now, I am in shock to know that he is being labelled a terrorist, adds
Farzeen. P.S. Those detained were identified as Sohail Abdul Aziz
Nizami, Ayub Qadir, Sajid Qadir, Yusuf Haji Ghaffar Memon, Nur
Mohammed Batliwala, Shakeel Usman Chotani, Ayub Khan, Ehsan Farooqi,
Ghulam Mustafa, Mohammed Yusuf, Mohammed Imran and Mohammed Iqbal
Batliwala.

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Traveling exhibit seeks to replace misconceptions about Hinduism
By Gloria Labounty Sun Chronicle Staff
The Sun Chronicle Attleboro-North Attleboro, MA
Aug 14, 2006 Attleboro -

It's one of the oldest religions of the world and one that is becoming
more prominent in this area, but it is also one of the most
misunderstood. With its unique view of divinity, its belief in a
cyclic universe and its stress on spiritual exploration, Hinduism is a
faith that many Westerners fail to grasp. There are a lot more
misconceptions than real knowledge, said Sampath Kumar of Attleboro.
Now residents of this area will have a chance to learn more. Kumar has
arranged a two-day visit by a traveling exhibition that depicts,
through 30 posters, some of the aspects of Hindu faith, culture and
traditions. The free exhibit will be at the Attleboro Public Library
on North Main Street from noon to 8 p.m. on Wednesday, Aug. 23, and
Thursday, Aug. 24, and will be open to the public. Sponsored by Hindu
Swayamsevak Sangh, a non-profit cultural organization aimed at
promoting and preserving Hindu culture, the exhibit has been making
its way around the country and has been well received by both Hindus
and non-Hindus, said Kumar, who is a member of the organization. The
posters touch on various themes, including Hinduism's basic concepts
and way of living, its temples and traditions, its contributions in
math and science, its Yoga and dharmic nature, its roles for women,
and its art, architecture, dance and music. Kumar, who came to this
country 16 years ago from his homeland of India, is now enlisting the
help of other local Hindus to staff the exhibit and answer questions
posed by visitors. Hindu families moving in A number of Hindu families
have been moving to the Attleboro area and buying homes here, he said,
but their culture and their faith may not be as readily understood
because Hinduism is not an organized religion the way Christianity is,
and is not as visible. Although Hindus have temples, such as the ones
in Ashland and Fall River, they do not gather there frequently and
instead pray any time of the day, and often pray at home, where many
of them have set aside special rooms with altars. For Hindus, Kumar
said, the focus is on looking inward, toward peace and meditation, and
on a one-on-one communion with God. This is a very different approach
to spirituality, he said. Hindus do not proselytize and have no
mandate to convert others, Kumar said, so the exhibit is not meant to
influence anyone's religious perspective. There is no one message, no
one book, no one messiah in Hinduism, he said, and people are free to
explore and to inquire, because the more they ask, the more they will
realize. Simple answers to spirituality do not satisfy people, he
said. In general, Hindus see the divine in every living thing, and
believe in gods and goddesses, but as manifestations of the one God, a
view that is often misconstrued. Yet Hinduism is not only about God.
It is also about art, architecture, science, math, and many other
aspects of Hindu culture and tradition that American Hindus are hoping
to preserve through the younger generations, and hoping to demonstrate
through this exhibit. Kumar hopes people will come to see Hinduism as
a gentle, tolerant religion that focuses on harmony and mutual
respect. Hindus, he said, are a model ethnic group that is generally
well educated, law abiding and family focused. We have set the right
tone to be accepted into American society, Kumar said. Ever since the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, he said, Americans have become
more aware of the need to understand other religions and cultures. He
wants that awareness to include Hinduism, which he said is now a
permanent part of the American landscape. The more we know about each
other, the more understanding we have, the more we appreciate each
other, Kumar said. To learn more about the traveling exhibit, visit
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From India business schools to top of world's boardrooms
By Mary Jane Credeur and Ashok Bhattacharjee
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International Herald Tribune Thursday, August 24, 2006 Atlanta -

When Rajat Gupta could not find a decent job in India after earning a
degree in mechanical engineering from the Indian Institute of
Technology in Delhi in 1971, he did what many of his compatriots did.
He moved to the United States. He attended Harvard Business School,
then landed a job at the New York office of McKinsey in 1973. Twenty-
one years later, in 1994, Gupta, 57, became the first foreign-born
chief executive of the consulting firm. As Gupta's rise illustrates,
PepsiCo, which last week named Indra Nooyi as its next chief
executive, was not the first global corporation to recognize the
caliber of executive talent from India. The annual reports of many
large companies show Indians are landing big jobs. And like Gupta and
Nooyi, most are products of an investment in higher education the
country made more than 40 years ago. There is a huge demand for Indian
executives, said Rana Talwar, the former chief executive of Standard
Chartered in London who runs Sabre Capital, a buyout firm. The quality
of the education is very good. And Indians can adapt to any
environment. When we grew up, we got used to adverse conditions. Those
coming of age in the executive suite often were educated at one of two
institutions founded in the 1950s and 1960s: IIT or the Indian
Institutes of Management. Created after India achieved independence
from Britain in 1947, they were designed to train leaders for India's
postwar industrial development. They did, but not only for India. Arun
Sarin, chief executive of Vodafone Group in Newbury, England,
graduated from IIT in Kharagpur. So did Ajit Jain, a potential
successor to Warren Buffett at Berkshire Hathaway in Omaha, Nebraska.
Nooyi, 50, earned her degree at IIM in Calcutta. At least eight of the
500 biggest companies in the world are headed by Indians. Lakshmi
Mittal, chairman of Mittal Steel, _base_d in Rotterdam, runs the
world's largest steel maker; Mukesh Ambani is chief executive of
Reliance Industries, the largest nonstate company in India; and Ramani
Ayer is chief executive of Hartford Financial Services Group, _base_d
in Hartford, Connecticut. Part of what makes Indian graduates
desirable is their willingness to move for a job, said Ajay Banga,
chief executive of Citigroup's $18.3 billion Global Consumer Group
International in New York. Banga should know. He has relocated 10
times in 25 years. Banga's first job was with Nestlé in Delhi 1981,
which moved him to Calcutta and Mumbai. He returned to Delhi to work
for PepsiCo in 1995, then went to Madras when he was hired by
Citigroup in 1996. Three months later, the bank offered him a senior
marketing position in London. My boss said 'Ajay, you've got
aspirations beyond what you're doing. Come to London and be the
marketing head,' Banga said. If I had stayed in India, I would have
been lucky to just become the marketing director of some company
there. Nooyi's older sister, Chandrika, paved the way for her to leave
India, moving to Beirut with Citibank shortly after graduating from
IIM in Ahmedabad. Nooyi left next, followed by her younger brother,
Narayanan, who studied at Yale in 1981 when he was 17, Nooyi's mother,
Shantha Krishnamoorthy, said. There was a lot of opposition at home
from the elders to letting Chandrika go to Beirut then, Krishnamoorthy
said during an interview from Madras. I would console my mother by
saying that 'The candle has to melt to let the light shine,' she said.
She told her mother to think of her as the candle. Someone has to make
a sacrifice if the children are to do well. The attitude complements
the rigorous education, much of it American-inspired, at the IIT and
IIM schools. One in 50 applicants to the IIT schools is accepted, and
at the IIM management college in Ahmedabad, the rate is one in 532,
according to the Economist Intelligence Unit rankings. At the Stanford
Graduate School of Business, one in 13 is accepted. Even with the
education, staying in India would have meant working for the
government or a private company making the equivalent of $60 or $70 a
month, said Vinod Gupta, who went to the University of Nebraska after
graduating from IIT-Kharagpur in 1967. Gupta, no relation to
McKinsey's Rajat Gupta, founded InfoUSA in 1971 after his job was
eliminated at a mobile- home manufacturer. InfoUSA, _base_d in Omaha,
Nebraska, owns a data_base_ of consumers and businesses used by
Internet sites. When Gupta visited his hometown of Rampur, a few years
ago, he ran into an old IIT classmate. He was selling vegetables from
a small stand on the sidewalk. If I had not come to America, I might
be stuck in that same village selling vegetables, Gupta said. But
things are changing. With India's economy growing 9 percent to 10
percent annually, many graduates - and some who left the country - are
remaining in the country, or returning home. Ten years ago, an
overseas posting for a colleague would be viewed with envy, but today
it is not a big deal, said Roopa Kudva, director and chief rating
officer with Standard & Poor's Crisil in Mumbai. There are more people
who want to work here because India itself is turning out to be a
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LTTE funded U.S. Congressman' s 2005 trip to Vanni in Shri Lanka:

A sequel to Asian Tribune report Daya Gamage - US National
Correspondent for Asian Tribune Thu, 2006-08-24 17:45

Washington, D.C. 24

August (Asian Tribune.com) - United States Congressman Danny Davis'
trip to Shri Lanka from March 30 to April 5, 2005, spending most of
his time in the regions of the Vanni and Kilinochchi Districts,
controlled by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, was in fact funded
by the Liberation Tigers, it was revealed by federal authorities,
according to an August 23 datelined report in Chicago Tribune. The
Democratic Congressman from Illinois says that he was unaware that the
Tamil Tigers paid for the trip and on his required congressional
disclosure form has reported that the trip was paid for by a Hickory
Hills, Illinois- _base_d Tamil cultural organization, the Federation
of Tamil Sangams of North America. According to the Chicago Tribune
report Davis had believed that the trip was paid for by the Tamil
federation, which in accordance with congressional ethics rules sent
to him a written statement of travel expenses, more than US $7,000
each for Davis and his aide, Daniel Cantrell. Congressman Danny Davis
said he knew that the group was associated with the Tamil Tigers but
did not realize that the trip's costs were covered with the funds
controlled by the (Shri Lanka) rebel group. Davis' seven day trip to
Shri Lanka's Tamil Tiger territory came under scrutiny this week
following the arrests of 11 supporters of the Tamil Tigers in New York
on charges of participating in a broad conspiracy to support the
terrorist group through money laundering, arms procurement and bribery
of U.S. officials, the Chicago Tribune reports. Asian Tribune on 15
April (2005) under the caption Tamils Want Peace With Dignity and
Justice, says U.S. Congressman who toured Shri Lanka carried an
exclusive interview in which this Online Daily said that the trip was
organized by Tamil expatriates who have _link_s to the Tamil Tiger
outfit. This week, the Asian Tribune report became the catalyst for
one of the authors of the Chicago Tribune report Mike Dorning to
scrutinize Congressman Davis' exclusive visit to Shri Lanka's Tiger
territory. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam or popularly known as
Tamil Tigers is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization in the
United States since 1997. The Tigers have been fighting the Government
of Shri Lanka to win a separate independent state for the Tamil
minority (12.5%) in this South Asian island-nation' s predominantly
Tamil north and east districts since mid eighties. They accuse the
government, which they say is largely controlled by the ethnic
majority Sinhalese (74%), of discriminating against the Tamil minority
which the government denies. A Norwegian-brokered ceasefire was signed
between the two warring parties in 2002 but was mostly confined to the
paper as Shri Lanka's military stepped up its offensive against Tiger
positions in early this month. The Shri Lanka government has
repeatedly said that they were prepared to sit with the Tamil Tigers
for a dialogue and that the government favors devolution of political
and administrative powers to the periphery. Congressman Danny Davis
told last year's Asian Tribune interview that a group of Shri Lankan
expatriates wanted him to visit their country to examine how tsunami
disaster funds are being disbursed as a substantial amount has been
collected in his congressional district to which he agreed. The Asian
Tribune, in an editorial comment, said in the body of the April 15,
2005 interview with Davis that it was a strategic move on the part of
the LTTE to get a United States Congressman to tour the areas they
hold for a political lecture while completely blocking the dissenting
opinion reaching the American lawmaker. The Congressman told this
correspondent during the interview that he was aware he was visiting
only the LTTE controlled areas in Shri Lanka. As to why he did not
make any effort to meet non-LTTE officials or Shri Lanka Government
officials, the Davis told Asian Tribune that it was not on his agenda.
Chicago Tribune report _link_s Danny Davis to some of the activists of
the Tamil Tigers who were taken into custody by the United States
authorities on Monday allegedly conspiring to procure military
hardware, surface-to-air missiles, AK 47s, communication equipment and
attempt to bribe U.S. officials to remove LTTE from the State
Department Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) list. Chicago Tribune
says that Congressman Davis past Saturday (19) talked in Chicago with
a supporter of the Tamil Tigers who was among 11 people arrested on
charges of conspiring to aid the rebel group through money laundering,
procurement of arms, including surface-to air missiles and bribery of
public officials. That Tamil Tiger supporter , says Chicago Tribune,
Murugesu Vinayagamoorthy, was described in a federal criminal
complaint as a high-level operative who served as an intermediary
between the Tigers' leaders and foreign backers. Davis said he first
met Vinayagamoorthy, a 57-year-old London physician, at a Tamil
cultural event in the Chicago suburbs at which both of them gave
speeches a few years ago. Vinayagamoorthy also participated in several
of the meetings that Davis held while visiting Shri Lanka, the
congressman said. The criminal complaint against Vinayagamoorthy
asserts that he had direct and frequent contact with leaders of the
(Shri Lanka) rebel group and was often dispatched to facilitate Tamil
Tiger projects around the world. The Chicago Tribune continued to
report in its August 23 edition that without mentioning Davis or his
aide by name, the complaint (before the U.S. District Court in
Brooklyn, New York) describes a series of transactions in which
Vinayagamoorthy and others charged in the case allegedly laundered US
$13,150 in Tamil Tiger funds at the direction of a top guerilla leader
to pay for travel of two individuals to Tamil-controlled Shri Lanka.
The two individuals were Davis and Cantrell, Law enforcement officials
said, the Chicago Tribune says. Another person arrested in the case,
Nachimuthu Socrates, was listed as a director in 2004 of the Tamil
cultural organization, the Federation of Tamil Sangams of North
America, which Congressman Danny Davis listed in public disclosure
forms (to Congress required by law) as trip's sponsor. Davis told the
Chicago Tribune that he always assumed that the organization had a
connection with the Tamil Tigers. Congressman Danny Davis' visit to
Shri Lanka's Tamil Tiger controlled areas prompted Asian Tribune to
unleash a scathing criticism of the Shri Lanka Embassy in Washington
in its analysis of 18 April (2005) captioned Shri Lanka's Foreign
Public Diplomacy in U.S. in Jeopardy. In that analysis the Asian
Tribune said Asian Tribune in its month-long monitoring found that
Shri Lanka mission has absolutely no idea of LTTE front organization
operations even much closer to its own location in the eastern states
of the United States. If the Tiger activities are on the downward
trend, according to (Shri Lanka deputy chief of mission in Washington)
Mr. Bandara's understanding, Asian Tribune is at a loss to know a
Tiger front organization, which the Shri Lanka embassy has no interest
to find out, strategically organized Congressman Davis' tour to the
Tiger land. In fact, a senior State Department official told this
correspondent that the Tiger activists in Chicago gave the United
States Congressman the impression that he was touring the tsunami
disaster region in the eastern Shri Lanka but was tricked to enter
Vanni, the Tiger stronghold. Asian Tribune, in conclusion, said