Automatic recording of shogi games?

[Daniel Toebbens]

Does equipment exist for the automatic recording of shogi games? In international chess this is done by electronic boards, that are attached to a computer. Nowadays I guess another option would be the use of dedicated image analysis software, which creates a list of the moves from a video of the game.

[Shogi Besancon]

I agree with you Daniel,

I have in target to do it with opencv + webcam + raspberry, but too busy right know. 

It could be a beautifull student project!

Le ven. 8 juil. 2022 à 10:49, Daniel Toebbens <Daniel....@gmx.de> a écrit :

Does equipment exist for the automatic recording of shogi games? In international chess this is done by electronic boards, that are attached to a computer. Nowadays I guess another option would be the use of dedicated image analysis software, which creates a list of the moves from a video of the game.

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[Fabien Osmont]

Hi Daniel,

Would indeed be great.

Still, differences with chess are that drops and koma promotion
detection may be big challenges for board based software.
Image analysis indeed may be an option.

Fabien

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[Ihor Strumetskyi]

Hello!

I'm sorry to interrupt your correspondence.

Just wanted to mention, that there is a service called Heroz Kishin Eye, that uses image recognition technologies to record kifu of the games.

Currently it's in use in JSA since 2021.

I'm not sure if it's available as a public service though.

You can read more about it here:

https://heroz-co-jp.translate.goog/release/2021/03/31_heroz/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Ihor

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[Daniel Toebbens]

 

I guess there is a chance that some japanese enthusiast already did programm such a tool in opencv or a similar.

 

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[Daniel Toebbens]

Hello Ihor,

 

nothing to be sorry about; this kind of information is eactly what I am looking for. Also a good example for why it is hard to find - Heroz does have an English version of their website, but the list of products there does not mention Kishin Eye.  

 

 

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[DARREN PAULL]

Hello Ihor ,

That service you mentioned definitely has a lot of potential!

Darren

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[Shogi Besancon]

Hello everyone,

I contact the Heroz company. Kishin eye is not on the store and there is no plan to release it. 

As I said I have no time right now to do it, but I have some ressources to share :

open CV image detection

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/detect-an-object-with-opencv-python/ 

board reshaping

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/satyamallick_automatic-document-scanner-using-opencv-activity-6955990958832328704-56T8?utm_source=linkedin_share&utm_medium=android_app

opencv image orientation 

https://automaticaddison.com/how-to-determine-the-orientation-of-an-object-using-opencv/ 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27558127/opencv-find-box-within-a-box 

protocole usi (how computer "encrypt" the bord with pieces)

http://hgm.nubati.net/usi.html

Hope it helps!

Gilles

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