(rev 1.0.2) America Is Freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it (encl. {HRI 20060702-V3.4} 'REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against Humanity')
Koos Nolst Trenite
But Criminal Minds - such as the ones I have pointed out to you,
both here and by Islamic Fatwa (*) - Criminal Minds
have everything in reverse. So THEY shout, that "America is
'occupying Iraq'," and not freeing it.
'
'
The truth that everyone can see, and has indeed seen, is not a matter
of opinion, nor propaganda, but is the simple fact:
America is freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it.
'
The following conclusion is inevitable as well, to anybody with a
normal (not sick or 'al-Sadric' or otherwise Criminal, but a normal)
mind.
'
'
REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against Humanity,
by the Sociopaths Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, Jiang Zemin, Zapatero,
etc.
2 July 2006
{HRI 20060702-V3.4}
(Version 3.4
on 3 July 2008)
(Attachments
are posted
separately)
(Suitable for foreign
language students)
'
What I did read below, TO ME sounds like a very clear and massive
indictment against (it is an official accusation of) those who could
and who were asked to - but who REFUSED TO -
END THE EVIL. (See Attachments 1. and 2.)
'
It is an official and formal accusation of those who were, instead,
ridiculing and calling those "evil," who were and are handling evil,
and calling those - calling you and me that is -
"evil" FOR handling the evil;
yes, they are so calling those,
who are willing to, and who at times did, give their life
in order to stop the evil for us.
The soldiers there, like in World War II, give their
life for our security, which is the consequence of
their choice to serve and protect us,
much as it is my choice too, to protect you from
those who inflict evil on you and your friends,
on a global scale, by exposing and making the evil
understood and recognizable to you
- the first and main and often sufficient condition
for remedying and preventing it.
To then ACCUSE me (or the soldiers) of exposing
themselves to mortal danger, is the typical Insanity
we hear or read daily from those WHO DO NOT WANT
EVIL STOPPED, but who want it to be hidden, and
Criminal Minds not recognized.
Thus the Associated Press (of America) with
its CEO Tom Curley, holds a daily tally NOT
of soldiers' achievements, but of their
deaths.
If I would complain of the mortal
attacks on me or my body, then some
people would "advise" me: 'Well,
why don't you just stop caring for
people? It's your own fault, that you
get attacked...'
'
'
How insane have you been made by Criminal Minds and by their parrots
(their parrots, sometimes Associated Parrots, like
journalists who are relaying to you, what Criminal Minds
want you to hear, but who fail at the same time to report
the truth)?
Very, very insane - utterly insane indeed - well, not you and I
of course, but others have been made, and are being made insane.
*(3)
This is done to others by Criminal Minds - these have everything in
reverse.
'
Criminal Minds have everything in reverse. (I just repeat it
so that, at some time, others are likely to notice it.)
They want you to see Evil as "normal."
And you must be made to "see" (to feel, to sense) Good as
being "very, very bad."
They blame those who do Good, as "doing the evil," and
those who do the Evil, you are invited to treat as if
THOSE are "normal," "right," "lawful," and "to be
supported by you."
They cause you to have a stubborn grin, of
"how right and strong of you it is," to not
see Criminal Minds as these are, but to treat
these as if they are "normal," and "to be taken
as friends,"
AND, that "those who DO see Criminals as Criminals,
'are evil', 'hateful,' 'destructive of life'."
'
'
They, Criminal Minds, make your mind be so, that
decent, caring people (they mean, that also you) "are evil," and
that
you "are causing the harm," and that you "are causing the
murdering" (they really do like to think that) *(6)
("A US military vehicle which attempted to approach the
scene of the blast, withdrew in a hail of stones thrown by
angry residents." - Baghdad - AFP, 20060701)
and they state that in their public speeches, in Friday Prayers
of the Muslim community,
and they make it so, that they, the Criminals themselves,
and of course those who refuse to stop Criminals, including
certain heads of state who support or who allow Criminals
their evil,
are "the good people," or are "the normal heads of state," and are
"the ones you better support, for your own good."
'
That is, how utterly insane Criminal Minds have actually made
you, now. (Have made others, I mean, of course, not you and me -
WE always have a very precise viewpoint on who causes evil, and,
on who protects us from evil - isn't it...)
'
'
'
'
Not only did the individuals who stand now accused, like Putin,
Chirac, and the like, REFUSE to stop Evil,
but they were also OBSTRUCTING others from handling the Evil,
even though it was their own job as head of state,
directly to do all they could, to assist.
All, that some, like Putin (in Russia), Chirac (in
France), Schroeder (in Germany) and Jiang Zemin (in China)
and the others would have had to do, was
to say "Yes, I agree that YOU stop the Crimes,"
without themselves even having to do or to pay
anything.
'
But instead, they - Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, and Jiang Zemin,
etc. - knowingly and deceptively committed those Crimes
against Humanity, as are described in the previous paragraph.
'
'
'
And I have to point it out to you, because it has been smashed and
sucked out of your awareness, by the Criminals,
who are aided in that also by the parrots of various News
Agencies, such as the Associated Parrots (AP) and the Agency
of French Parrots (AFP), and the United Parrots International
(UPI), and so on.
That is how utterly insane the Criminal Minds have
actually made you, now. (That means: others, of course -
not you and me, but others have been made utterly insane
by Criminal Minds, insane about who caused the evil, and
about those who enjoyed the evil and who perpetuated it.)
(Your and my awareness of that matter, of course, has
been always correct, and we have held that always
unwaveringly in our minds, isn't it - also for
others to see and to feel the truth - of what
actually happened, of what was done by whom, and of
the intention with which it was done.)
'
'
'
In order to refresh my and your awareness a little bit, I did read
the Crimes again, that do form the basis of accusing those who
refused to stop the Crimes, and who, instead, deceptively condoned
and secretly encouraged these Crimes against Humanity,
which is the guilt of Putin, Chirac, Schroeder, Jiang Zemin (and now
Hu Jintao), etc.,
THEIR GUILT SEVERELY AGGRAVATED BY THE FACT THAT IT WAS PART OF
THEIR JOB TO BRING ABOUT GLOBAL SECURITY AND TO STOP CRIMES
AGAINST HUMANITY,
AND SEVERELY AGGRAVATED BY THE FACT, THAT THEY COULD VERY EASILY
HAVE MOVED - BY MERELY APPROVING THAT OTHERS DO - TO STOP THE
EVIL.
Instead, they preferred to have much damage and burden
inflicted on others, seemingly "to aid their own group or
position or Swiss and other bank accounts."
'
'
It is PART OF THEIR JOB, to communicate to THEIR
people, also and in particular to Islamic people
in their country, what ACTUALLY IS going on,
- the Internet search engine providers and
technical builders, like Google and Yahoo
and Microsoft Network and the Cisco
management, would certainly agree with that,
and also the Eutelsat satellite broadcast
providers would gladly assist to inform
people correctly, isn't that so -
much like people are also informed CORRECTLY about
a tsunami, or about the explosion of an atomic
reactor, or about a severe earthquake, occurring in
another country.
'
And when talking to those who can only, or who
have to think mainly, in terms of money (in
terms of present and future possessions) the
following is obvious to them:
You can not make a financially even
vaguely sound decision, of course,
if half of the data, and the most
important data, about a situation, or
about a region, about a population,
about people or about a country
is and remains deliberately hidden from
you,
particularly when presented as
"not hidden" - the typical way a
Criminal Mind presents "data" -
for instance by China's News Agency,
and by the Inverted or upside-down
"government" of China, that it,
'Xinhua,' stands for.
'
'
'
It is PART OF THE JOB OF LEADERS, to communicate to THEIR people, what
ACTUALLY IS going on, so that people can and do react correctly,
reacting indeed as is their inherent nature, reacting to care for
life, to protect life and possessions.
Remember, however, that 'Criminal Minds have
everything in reverse'
- THEY "know," that "it is the nature of people, to
destroy others and to prey on others" - because
that is THEIR OWN nature.
But in fact, it is only one percent of the
population who is like that, and these,
in times of anarchy, may drag another
maybe twenty percent temporarily with them,
or when ORGANIZED (that is not anarchy, but it
is evil steered and organized, also called
"stability" by Criminals and by their parrots,
tightly organized evil, as in Nazi Germany or
in current Communist dictatorships)
it might rise temporarily, as still in North
Korea, and in the past in Germany, and at one
time long ago in Cuba, to above fifty percent
- in highly organized evil that means, as it
is currently maintained and organized
globally by the Chinese Communist Party
"government," and not only in their slave
states such as North Korea,
but their organized evil also includes
their "diplomatic" corps etc. abroad, in
your country and in other non-suspecting
countries, I mean.
'
'
Criminal Minds have everything in reverse, so they
would just laugh very hard in your face - they would
completely ridicule you, openly or secretly -
if you state, that it is PART OF THE JOB of leaders,
to communicate to THEIR OWN people, what ACTUALLY
IS going on so that people can and do react
correctly,
indeed, reacting naturally (also as Moslems)
to care for life,
which is made possible when they have correct data,
INCLUDING correct data about who would or will
hinder the help given,
which includes of course the exposure of
Criminal Minds they falsely admire or
admired (label all dictators plus the
revolutionaries who brought them to
power, not as "friends of 'the People'"
and not as "friends of the Nation," but
as what they are - severely destructive
Criminal Minds).
Also you know, that Criminals do hide and
distort and oppose that correct data,
and that they do foster Hate against those
who do help naturally and who do help with
great responsibility.
It is thus most vital, of course, to
know whether data is coming from the
Chinese News Agency Xinhua and from
similar, Criminal News Agencies,
so that you know, that what you get
as "correct data," is what Criminals
want seen and known "as true."
'
'
So that is yet another Crime against Humanity: As leaders they
conspired to prevent their own population from being informed
correctly, and they THUS PREVENT(ED) their OWN people from
stopping very severe Crimes against Humanity.
And then they claim, that "they merely represent the
will of the people" - Criminal Minds ENJOY lying.
Those are despicable Crimes, committed by the heads of
state mentioned, Putin, Chirac, Schroeder, Jiang Zemin,
etc., and by their respective successors who continued
these Crimes against Humanity.
'
'
Human Rights is not a matter of papers and laws,
although a lawyer, a judge, even a diplomat (yes, an
occasional Minister for Immigration even) is likely to
see it like that, inhumanely, as "people are papers," and
such professionals are trained to "see" things through
that distortion,
they are TRAINED NOT TO SEE, not to go and see whom
they have in front of them, or to deliberately
ignore it, even when they DO see whom they have in
front of them,
instead, they talk about "what is 'legal' and
'lawful' and 'agreed upon'"
- not wanting to admit, that those are
the very tools that Criminal Minds use
(they have everything in reverse,
remember - so it is 'laws' and
'rules' and 'agreements,' forming
a basis, an instrument,
WITH THIS SIMPLE TRICK, THEY
SUDDENLY HAVE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
EMPLOYEES, AND THOUSANDS OF
JUDGES, AND MILLIONS OF
SOLDIERS "ON THEIR SIDE,"
OR AT LEAST UNDER THEIR
COMMAND,
that THEY use)
in order to deceive and to betray
and to mislead people - *(4)
translated into German (and also into 'Swiss')
as "'Ordnung muss sein'," as "laws are senior
to people" -
"rules are senior to people" in Germany,
they can not simply face or they refuse
to face the PURPOSES for the rules,
because then they would have to stand
up to Criminal Minds,
and to them, "laws and rules and
agreements are 'THE SOLUTION' to
having to face Criminal Minds,"
they are (still) obsessed by
'having solutions' - instead
of enjoying life together
which INCLUDES looking at
people and facing Criminal
Minds and Destructive
Cowards - *(6)
they are allowing, they are even
encouraging
- as the Criminal Mind
Socrates defended his own
hidden lies and his hidden
cowardice, at his death,
that's basically what he
said in order NOT to have
his own lies discovered
(but which I discovered
in my present life time,
that)
to HIDE his lies, he then
claimed the very, very
destructive lie, that
"the laws are senior to
people" -
encouraging and justifying laws
and rules to be used to DESTROY
life and TO DENY AND OPPOSE TRUTH
from being exposed and acted upon,
they are denying - remember, that Criminal
Minds have everything in reverse (they are
DENYING) - that those very laws and rules are
there in the first place FOR people, to help
people who should be helped, and also to deny
help to people who would destroy others,
- and that applies also to Louise
Arbour's Human Rights Council, etc. -
so, Human Rights IS NOT 'papers and laws,'
but Human Rights is about people, about individuals, as you will read
below.
You also did not need laws and bilateral agreements in
order to help others at Earthquakes or Tsunamis, did you.
You naturally help. You help, because it is your
FEELING, it is your nature, and so it is with all
normal people.
But also there, Criminal Minds will try to
divert or block your help from reaching those
people who need it.
And they will try to make you accept their
lies, their reversals of truth and their
'Buddhistic' goals to eradicate you forever,
"so you never have to suffer again":
Telling the world, that 'freeing you
from a torture cell in Husseins' Iraq,'
"is illegal," that "everybody is against
freeing you," and that "it is evil to
free you."
Criminal Minds, also those of Buddhism, have
everything in reverse.
'
What was happening in Iraq, and what is happening now
in China, and in some other dictatorial countries,
is a million times worse than any natural disaster,
as a natural disaster lacks the intention and
practice of malice.
(See Attachments 1. and 2. below)
'
'
This is about helping people,
and thus it is about your facing THE CRIMINALITY of those who
obstruct and who refuse to cooperate *(5)
in handling very, very severe Crimes against very many people.
'
The claim of the licensed medical profession of being
"the ones that ARE helping people," is a carefully built
fallacy (a facade, a building of lies) *(1) and you will
find,
after you have shed the appropriate amount of tears
and have gone though various stages and outbursts of
amazement and utter incredulity when you look at and
are about to understand what you see,
that the licensed medical profession is NOT about facing
Criminality, at all. *(2)
You remove such obstructive people from any position of
authority, and you oppose and deny their claims of being
authoritative, as they clearly are only pretending to be so.
(See Attachments 1. and 2. below)
'
It is your natural desire to help people, so, do so! Maybe you will
even get the idea - who knows - to help me,
'
Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet
'Men of all nations came
to listen to Solomon's wisdom,
sent by all the kings of the world,
who had heard of his wisdom.'
1 Kings 4:34
_________
Footnotes:
(*) 'First International Law on Islamic countries -
Fatwa (Islamic Decision) on some known Islamic demons:
Saddam Hussein, Khomeini, Yasser Arafat, Khamenei,
Bashar al-Assad, Ahmadinejad, Muqtada al-Sadr,
Manouchehr Mottaki, Nasrallah, Haniyeh, Gaddafi,
Omar al-Bashir, Mahathir Mohamad'
{HRI 20070223-V3.0.1} (Version 3.0 on 4 Apr 2008)
(23 February 2007 - Version 3.0.1 on 12 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.british/msg/
5560079c74f712ea
(Version 3.0.1 was also posted as Version 3.0, on 12 June)
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/6d805561c184c7f8
(Footnotes updated only up to 29 June 2007)
(1) 'The Dan Brown Code - The Trillion Dollar Question'
{HRI 20060610-V3.4}
(10 June 2006 - Version 3.4 on 10 July 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/2721c03970946e56
(2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
(13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc
(3) 'Definition Of Insane - Relation To Humor'
{HRI 20030205-V2.3.3}
(5 Feb 2003 - Version 2.3.3 on 13 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.martial-arts/msg/83cdfa7c46d584d1
(4) 'If Pilate Had Provided King Solomon's Justice...'
{HRI 20041102-V1.3}
(2 November 2004 - Version 1.3 on 2 Apr 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/human-rights-issues/msg/8a0076d89f741b32
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/10e1d33aa5888fe3
(5) 'Kofi Annan, the typical "sane Criminal" - one who, to "maintain"
a position (in the UN) protects and hides severe Criminals'
{HRI 20060608-V1.1}
(8 June 2006 - Version 1.1 on 9 June 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/cffc79dde74820cd
(6) 'Defining 'Destructive Coward' (Definition)'
{HRI 20050610-V3.2.2}
(10 June 2005 - Version 3.2 on 9 Sep 2006)
(Version 3.2 (or 3.2.2) published on 17 (or 18) May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/4c3b304dfedd9f84
{HRI 20050610-V3.2.2.1} (published on 18 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/f6117566a8d4bd84
'
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References:
'Intense Joy of Beautiful Hate - Emanating from Criminal Minds'
{HRI 20060629-V4.1}
(29 June 2006 - Version 4.1 on 1 Aug 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/f9acf8f938a4e5e6
'Sports, The Game of Not Facing Evil Individuals
- The Beijing 2008 Olympic Games Boycott'
{HRI 20060618-V1.4}
(18 June 2006 - Version 1.4 on 23 June 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/a880bf1ba370b9e5
'Kofi Annan, the typical "sane Criminal" - one who, to "maintain"
a position (in the UN) protects and hides severe Criminals'
(8 June 2006 - Version 1.1 on 9 June 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/cffc79dde74820cd
'North-Korea is managed by the Chinese Criminal government as a
front group for China, TO CREATE very costly trouble for you'
(21 June 2006) (version for China's Great Wall)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.congress/msg/7f3a3f0fc6c10d03
'U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour is
Destructively Insane by Definition of {HRI 20030205}'
(23 June 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/4deee3dc894eaf0e
'China NOT A VALID MEMBER of the United Nations Organization (UN,
UNO, ONU)'
{HRI 20060429-V2.1.2} - quotes {HRI 20060427-V1.1}
(29 April 2006 - Version 2.1.2 on 1 May 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/b753bf3df40e6a39
{HRI 20060429-V2.1.2-c} (in 'mainland' English)
(29 April 2006 - Version 2.1.2-c)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/d0bd2c13c146645f
'
___________
Attachments:
(issued separately, as follows)
1. 'Iraq: A Population Silenced' - Dec 2002, public document from
the US House Armed Services Committee.
found, with explanations, and typeset, in
'Iraq, A Population Silenced' - Report on Saddam Hussein's
criminal insanity'
{HRI 20060702-A1-V1.0.1}
(2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6da229514738e9f
2. ''The Shadow Of A Monster,' being the body-double of Saddam
Hussein's son Uday - Report on Saddam Hussein's criminal
insanity'
{HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.1}
(2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.1)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/4c41d6b3b912ccb9
{HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.2} (V1.0.2 has a short intro message)
(2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.2)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.greek/msg/a8b60b031f82d4bc
A telling report about Latif Yahia's years of horror with
Saddam's sadistic son Uday Hussein.
12 April 2003, by Lance Laytner, http://www.unison.ie
'
__________
Issue Note:
A previous issue of HRI 20060702, that included the attachments, but
those practically without typesetting or explanations, was:
'REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against
Humanity, by the Sociopaths Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, Jiang
Zemin, Zapatero, etc.'
{HRI 20060702-V3.3.2.1}
(2 July 2006 - Version 3.3.2 on 10 Sept 2006) [for instance at]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/f9c97ccbaa8fdf6d
'
_____
Books:
(A3) (Robert D. Hare)
'Without Conscience - the disturbing world of
the psychopaths among us,' in particular its Chapter 7.,
about 'white-collar Psychopaths.'
By Robert D. Hare, University of British Columbia, 1993.
(New York: Pocket Books, 1995)
(New York: Guilford Press, 1999 - ISBN 1-5730-451-0)
http://www.hare.org/home/index.html
From the back cover of the book:
'Robert Hare makes a strong case for the view that
psychopaths are born, not made. A chilling, eye-opening
report - and a call to action.'
'Of exceptional value to anyone wishing to look behind and
guard against these baffling predators [or parasite- or
virus-personalities] who live amongst us in fearful [in
large] numbers [sixty million of them on Earth].'
'
(A4) (Hervey Cleckley)
'The Mask Of Sanity - the acclaimed study of the
psychopathic personality'
By Hervey Cleckley, Medical College of Georgia, USA.
(St. Louis, MO - USA: Mosby Press Medical Library, 1982)
(New York: New American Library, ISBN 0-452-25341-1)
From the back cover of the book:
'Arrogant, shameless, immoral, impulsive, antisocial,
superficial, alert, self-assured, boastful, callous,
remorseless, charming, irresponsible:
'This is the poisonous mix of traits, that make up the
psychopathic personality. [...]
'Psychopaths also sit in corporate boardrooms [as
directors of companies or institutions] or function
as scientists or physicians [medical doctors] or in
any number of respectable capacities [holding
respected jobs or positions].
'They are all legally competent. [In the legal sense,
they are not insane, because they can talk and
think as brilliantly as a lawyer, to achieve their
purposes.]
'None of them "hears voices" or displays any
psychosis [that a psychiatrist could easily
recognize or could recognize at all, as these can not
and also do not want to define psychosis correctly].
'But they [psychopathic personalities] are all headed
for [causing others] big trouble, in a life-long
string of [causing] disasters [for others], that
could run the gamut [range, the whole spectrum]:
From [causing] financial ruin, to murder.
'Psychiatrists know neither the cause nor the cure of
this disorder [and they can not and do not want to
define 'disorder' either, and they have been working
and will continue to work very hard to hide the
cause of any 'disorder'] which evades [their]
established definitions of either sanity or insanity;
[So, I have defined all these terms, for you,
in the Human Rights Issues {the HRI's}, as none
indeed existed. So it is for the first time in
history, that correct definitions exist and
have been published.]
'indeed, psychiatrists themselves
[and any persons who try to help and to
understand Criminal Minds - any people who
try to help them]
'are at times as helplessly manipulated by the
psychopath, as are the psychopath's other victims.'
'
____________
Verification:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
Copyright 2006-2008 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths,
who vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and of themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific 'agenda,' but only to educate, and to
encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
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Ian Parker
are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to
democracy in Latin America support for democracy in Iraq is strange.
It would be a "Damascus road" experience, except that the only people
on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US imposed) tyrants.
- Ian Parker
Plato Been
interesting, but IT IS interesting, that this individual,
Ian Parker denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of others
(souls).
Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity hoax.
Ian Parker denies the observations of others, as regard extra-
terrestrial civilization and the evidence of these visible on
Earth.
'
Such all are indicators for suspecting a sociopath originating
those ideas, in this case apparently confirmed to be Ian Parker.
'
Criminal Minds are all very standard, and once you know, it is
not difficult to detect many of them.
Entirely their opposite,
KNT
Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright conditions as usual ('learnware')
__________________________
Ian Parker
> It is not "respondent's" non-sequitur and false "data" that are
> interesting, but IT IS interesting, that this individual,
>
> Ian Parker denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of others
> (souls).
>
> Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity hoax.
>
> Ian Parker denies the observations of others, as regard extra-
> terrestrial civilization and the evidence of these visible on
> Earth.
>
> '
>
> Such all are indicators for suspecting a sociopath originating
> those ideas, in this case apparently confirmed to be Ian Parker.
>
> '
>
> Criminal Minds are all very standard, and once you know, it is
> not difficult to detect many of them.
>
> Entirely their opposite,
>
> KNT
>
> Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
> Copyright conditions as usual ('learnware')
>
> __________________________
>
>
>
> > What about the 2 million + people who have fled the new tyrants abd
> > are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to
> > democracy in Latin America support for democracy in Iraq is strange.
>
> > It would be a "Damascus road" experience, except that the only
> > people on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US imposed)
> > tyrants.
>
lot of hypocracy in organised religion. That is as different point.
The idea of people being forced to flee a country they have grown up
in because they say their prayers the wrong way should be abhorrent to
everyone, as is suicide bombing and 72 houris.
The hoax is not Einstein - Relativity is well attested. The hoax is
the Black Sun, the CIA and neo nazi proaganda. Tell me please, is GPS
a hoax? What do you buy when you get Tom Tom and various other GPS
based devices?
Extraterrestrial life - I would like to see a rational discussion. The
consensus view is that life is common but that intelligent life is
rare. There is no evidence we have been visited by intelligent
extraterrestrials, the arguments, based to a degree on where our
technology is going (ET technology presumably went the same way).
Roswell is 1950s SF and the docuyments coming to light show it to have
been a gigantic hoax.
Nobody worships "divine Albert". Einstein said that God did not play
dice. Well he does
This is a discussion in sci.physics.research on this very topic. As
well as quantum mechanics there is the question of chaos. I felt the
discussion was disappearing into philosophical semantics - but there
you are. I personally like the Ian Stewart formulation of chaos based
on topology.
Roswell as I keep saying has been a hoax from beginning to end. The
hoax only survived as long as it did because of secrecy. If the
documents had not been classified their auhors would now be in jail
for fraud.
On the question both of extraterrestrial life and extraterrestrial
intelligent life I feel we should look. Do you object to measuring
optical activity in the ice of Europa? I want to look and do tests
which are as definitive as possible. Same is true of ET intelligent
life. There we are up against a problem. Either ET wants to be
observed - in which case he would have been observed yonks ago. If he
does not it is impossible to obseve him.
Radio/optical transmission will be on a maximum entropy principle and
undetecable. As I have said Radio Reloj with its sync pulses is going
to disappear very shortly. ET will be invisible to SETI. In fact the
only thing that won't be invisible will be the effect of civilization
on the home planet.
- Ian Parker
Koos Nolst Trenite
5 July 2008
{HRI note 20080705-II}
1. Ian Parker(*) denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of
others (souls).
He claims to acknowledge "The Soul or God," instead, without further
defining that. However, every person is a soul.
2. Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity Hoax, and
claims, with others, that the Hoax is proven correct with the
engineering of the Global Positioning System (GPS).
However, the (GPS) calculations mentioned (quoted here, below) do not
apply to time, but to atomic clocks, meaning essentially, to the orbit
of electrons around atomic nuclei.
Then you can say as well, that "time will speed up," in the (ficti-
tious) case, that Earth moves into a closer orbit of the sun,
(shorter year) or, if Earth speeds up its rotation around itself
(shorter day).
To an indoctrinated physicist, that makes perfect sense.
'
To a normal person however, it is more like shortening his lunch
break:
TIME DOES NOT CHANGE, but the lunch break shortens.
'
In other words, there is a complete difference between TIME, and
MEASURING TIME.
Which is, why Mr. Albert Einstein's "Relativity" - that "time is
relative," and that "space is determined by photons" - IS A HOAX.
And that is, why Mr. Stephen Hawking, the one with the Black
Holes, the Big Bangs, etc., is a HOAX TOO.
But, fiction sells well, and is absorbed greedily, and
made millionaires of Dan Brown and of J.K. Rowling, who
do admit, however, that at least some part of their work
IS fiction.
'
The belief in the Einstein Hoax, coincides with the (Ian Parker's)
denial of the spirit or soul - of the person experiencing his lunch
break getting shorter - BECAUSE he is a soul, and because HE knows he
does not perceive only photons, and is not a brain, but a soul.
See further:
'Definition of Perception ... Fine Particle Physics ...'
{FPP-HRI 20080608-V3.4}
(8 June 2008 - Version 3.4 on 24 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/86abd93d0b48fc74
____________
Verification:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
Copyright 2008 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths,
who vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and of themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific 'agenda,' but only to educate, and to
encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
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'
'
"GPS and Relativity
According to the theory of relativity, due to their constant movement
and height relative to the Earth-centered inertial reference frame,
the clocks on the satellites are affected by their speed (special
relativity) as well as their gravitational potential (general
relativity). For the GPS satellites, general relativity predicts that
the atomic clocks at GPS orbital altitudes will tick more rapidly, by
about 45,900 nanoseconds (ns) per day, because they are in a weaker
gravitational field than atomic clocks on Earth's surface. Special
relativity predicts that atomic clocks moving at GPS orbital speeds
will tick more slowly than stationary ground clocks by about 7,200 ns
per day. When combined, the discrepancy is 38 microseconds per day; a
difference of 4.465 parts in 1010.[17]. To account for this, the
frequency standard onboard each satellite is given a rate offset prior
to launch, making it run slightly slower than the desired frequency on
Earth; specifically, at 10.22999999543 MHz instead of 10.23 MHz.[18]
GPS observation processing must also compensate for another
relativistic effect, the Sagnac effect. The GPS time scale is defined
in an inertial system but observations are processed in an
Earth-centered, Earth-fixed (co-rotating) system, a system in which
simultaneity is not uniquely defined. The Lorentz transformation
between the two systems modifies the signal run time, a correction
having opposite algebraic signs for satellites in the Eastern and
Western celestial hemispheres. Ignoring this effect will produce an
east-west error on the order of hundreds of nanoseconds, or tens of
meters in position.[19]
The atomic clocks on board the GPS satellites are precisely tuned,
making the system a practical engineering application of the
scientific theory of relativity in a real-world environment."
(quoted from Wikipedia of today's date)
(*) On Jul 4, 12:45 pm, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 07:45, [I wrote, as] Plato Been <plato...@gmail.com>
> > It is not "respondent's" non-sequitur and false "data" that are
> > interesting, but IT IS interesting, that this individual,
>
> > Ian Parker denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of others
> > (souls).
>
> > Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity Hoax.
>
> > Ian Parker denies the observations of others, as regard extra-
> > terrestrial civilization and the evidence of these visible on
> > Earth.
>
> > '
>
> > Such all are indicators for suspecting a sociopath originating
> > those ideas, in this case apparently confirmed to be Ian Parker.
>
> > '
>
> > Criminal Minds are all very standard, and once you know, it is
> > not difficult to detect many of them.
>
> > Entirely their opposite,
>
> > KNT
>
> > Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
> > Copyright conditions as usual ('learnware')
>
> > __________________________
> > On Jul 3, 2:46 pm, Ian Parker <ianpar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[Ian Perker wrote non-sequitur and false "data" as follows]
> > > What about the 2 million + people who have fled the new tyrants
and
> > > are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to
> > > democracy in Latin America support for democracy in Iraq is
strange.
>
> > > It would be a "Damascus road" experience, except that the only
> > > people on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US
imposed)
> > > tyrants.
[Ian Parker wrote about himself]
>
> I do not deny the existence of God or a Soul. I feel that there is a
> lot of hypocracy in organised religion. That is as different point.
> The idea of people being forced to flee a country they have grown up
> in because they say their prayers the wrong way should be abhorrent
to
> everyone, as is suicide bombing and 72 houris.
>
> The Hoax is not Einstein - Relativity is well attested. The Hoax is
> the Black Sun, the CIA and neo nazi proaganda. Tell me please, is
GPS
> a Hoax? What do you buy when you get Tom Tom and various other GPS
> based devices?
>
> Extraterrestrial life - I would like to see a rational discussion.
The
> consensus view is that life is common but that intelligent life is
> rare. There is no evidence we have been visited by intelligent
> extraterrestrials, the arguments, based to a degree on where our
> technology is going (ET technology presumably went the same way).
> Roswell is 1950s SF and the docuyments coming to light show it to
have
> been a gigantic Hoax.
>
> Nobody worships "divine Albert". Einstein said that God did not play
> dice. Well he does
>
>
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.research/browse_frm/thre.
..
>
> This is a discussion in sci.physics.research on this very topic. As
> well as quantum mechanics there is the question of chaos. I felt the
> discussion was disappearing into philosophical semantics - but there
> you are. I personally like the Ian Stewart formulation of chaos
based
> on topology.
>
> Roswell as I keep saying has been a Hoax from beginning to end. The
> Hoax only survived as long as it did because of secrecy. If the
> documents had not been classified their auhors would now be in jail
> for fraud.
>
> On the question both of extraterrestrial life and extraterrestrial
> intelligent life I feel we should look. Do you object to measuring
> optical activity in the ice of Europa? I want to look and do tests
> which are as definitive as possible. Same is true of ET intelligent
> life. There we are up against a problem. Either ET wants to be
> observed - in which case he would have been observed yonks ago. If
he
> does not it is impossible to observe him.
Ian Parker
wrote:
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
(just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
connected with the Roswell Hoax?
- Ian Parker
Mitchell Jones
<40e1e5c2-bcc7-441d...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Koos Nolst Trenite <Ambassador...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Einstein Hoax, GPS, and the soul - the Shortened Lunch Break
>
> 5 July 2008
> {HRI note 20080705-II}
>
> 1. Ian Parker(*) denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of
> others (souls).
>
> He claims to acknowledge "The Soul or God," instead, without further
> defining that. However, every person is a soul.
***{There is an observable difference between the situation when a
person is in the world and the situation when he is not in the world:
when in the world, you observe and act; when not in the world, you do
neither. In support of this distinction, we have the fact that untold
numbers of beings came into the world before you and, when they opened
their eyes, you did not see. Then, when one particular being came into
the world and opened his eyes, you did see. The obvious implication is
that there is a recipe for each of us, an arrangement of physical
constituents which will bring us into the world. When no being so
arranged is in the world, when we have no physical embodiment, we do not
observe and act. It is only when a being arranged in accordance with a
particular recipe comes into the world, that that particular individual
enters the world.
Death occurs when the material embodiment of a being becomes rearranged
in such a way that the essence, the defining characteristics, of that
being are no longer present. Death means you are no longer in the world:
you no longer observe and act; your recipe has ceased to be fulfilled.
What then remains of you, if you cannot observe and act? The answer: the
recipe for you remains, the mechanical universe capable of bringing
together the ingredients in accordance with that recipe remains, and
time goes on. And with the passage of sufficient time, those ingredients
will be brought together again--which means: sometime in the future,
perhaps billions of years after your death here on Earth, your recipe
will once again be fulfilled, and you will enter the world again. Any
thing which can be eventually will be, and the fact that we are here now
is proof that each of us can be.
Does the essence of you--the characteristics that a being coming into
the world after your death must have in order for you to once again
observe and act--meet your personal definition of "soul"? If so, then
this "soul" is only a potentiality--something the mechanical universe is
capable of producing--and exists only in the sense that a recipe exists.
A recipe for a cake is not a cake, and a recipe for a man is not a man.
Dead is dead. There are no ghosts: the dead are not conscious; they do
not learn; they do not act.
--Mitchell Jones}***
[snip]
*****************************************************************
If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ
Dr. Henri Wilson
wrote:
Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true
concept of relativity.
A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever
their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for
this.
Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in
the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed,
irrespective of relative source movement.
Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
> - Ian Parker
Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
Plato Been
effective method to hide his true nature and his past acts.
> Dead is dead. There are no ghosts: the dead are not conscious; they do
> not learn; they do not act.
>
> --Mitchell Jones
Thus the following applies to him:
Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION to talk to me (rev 2.0)
7 December 2007
(Version 2.0
on 23 Apr 2008)
'
Demonic creatures have NO permission to talk to or speak with me,
unless specifically asked by me, and then only on the question
asked of them by me or by someone for me.
This has always been so, wherever and whenever I could recognize them.
This is how it is in the street, and it is not at all different
in the Usenet newsgroups.
'
'
You can think of these Demonic creatures as street bums,
as to how their soul is, and
as to how the Energies they emanate, are.
Some even claim, that (their and) any soul, and
(those and) any Energies, (also those THEY emanate)
DO NOT EXIST,
so that they are not recognized as the source
of Evil Energies,
nor recognized as Evil souls (that are obvious
from their past-lives).
'
Their only purpose is to destroy life,
and the only reason for their shouting to get a connect-
ion, is, to try and get (to steal) Energy from others,
as they are Energy-vampires too,
and it is not hard to imagine, what THEY would use that
Energy for.
'
'
Do these Hate Beauty, Love and Truth?
Certainly, they so do hate very intensely, very forcefully, with
tremendous rancor.
'
They abhor and are disgusted by genuine Beauty, Love and Truth,
which they may try to approach and "admire" IN ORDER TO
DESTROY IT and to obtain and pervert and subvert the
Energy of.
'
'
Me being fully and wholly their opposite, my communications are so
Strong in Beauty, so All-embracing in Love, and so Rich in Truth,
that these my communications (my Energies) do literally 'burn the
soul' of any Demonic creature, sociopath or mental street bum and
the like:
To such individuals, any communication of mine acts as
'Holy Water,' it burns their soul
- and they react accordingly... some sort of 'explode,'
others, feeling forced to have to feel and to face the
actuality of how people really are,
including feeling the existence and thus the
Energies of demons like l. ron hubbard, and of
his evil soul mates,
will go onto a 'killing spree,' a 'knife-stabbing' "fest"
for them,
TO RE-ESTABLISH THEIR LIES, THEIR FALSE FEELINGS,
AND TO 'DICTATORIALIZE' their lies and false
feelings onto others,
to eradicate and exterminate decent people, and
to kill those who emanate the Energy of pure, penetrating
Truth, of pure, penetrating Beauty, and of pure, and
equally penetrating Love.
'
Therefore - being KIND to them - they are ordered to filter out
of their perception, any communications
not meant for them, not written for them and not posted
or published for them,
that are written by me.
'
'
Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably the most Intelligent, the most
Beautiful and the most Caring philosopher known, and on top of that
the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher known on Earth and
beyond.
KNT hrp&p
_________
reference:
'l. ron hubbard is a 'demon' pretending to be "good" '
(21 April 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/2c9e876e79b3e4c8
Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')
On Jul 6, 10:36 pm, Mitchell Jones <mjo...@21cenlogic.com> wrote:
> In article
> <40e1e5c2-bcc7-441d-8fcd-94b97bd89...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Ian Parker
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
> >NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
> >orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
> >rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
> >(just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
> >connected with the Roswell Hoax?
>
> Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true
> concept of relativity.
>
> A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever
> their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for
> this.
>
> Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
>
> Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in
> the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed,
> irrespective of relative source movement.
>
> Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
>
Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under
different pseudonymes.
The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is
a compromise on various Aether theories. Poncaré in fact produced a
relativisic principle. It was a purely mathematical formulation of
Special Relativity. The equations of Quantum Electrodynamics are
invariant under the Lorenz transformation. The world we inabit being
governed by QE must obey Special Relativity by means of mathematical
theorem.
It should be pointed out tthough that Schroedinger's equation is not
relativistically invariant as it stands. You need to base QE on the
Dirac equation. This sticks its neck out and gives us antiparicles.
You need antiparticles to make the equations invariant. The positron
exists. Now this to anyones mind must be a tremendous vindication.
Indeed so deeply embedded is Relativity that when the weak nuclear
force exhibits asymmetry with regard to the antiparticles we say it
does not have mirror image symmetry. This tells us that the chemistry
of stereo isomers is different to a part in 10^12.
General Relativity is NOT an aether theory in any way. It cannot be.
It says some striking and testable things about gravity. Things fall
because space is curved. Precession of orbit of Mercury, bending of
light near the Sun (the 1919 eclipse of the Sun).
However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly
proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any
chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco?
- Ian Parker
m II
> Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true
> concept of relativity.
>
> A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever
> their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for
> this.
>
> Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
>
> Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in
> the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed,
> irrespective of relative source movement.
>
> Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
> www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
>
> All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
http://www.searchmash.com/search/einstein+plagiarist
--
Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter
blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups.
Dr. Henri Wilson
wrote:
>On 7 Jul, 01:03, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
>> >NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
>> >orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
>> >rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
>> >(just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
>> >connected with the Roswell Hoax?
>>
>> Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true
>> concept of relativity.
>>
>> A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever
>> their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for
>> this.
>>
>> Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
>>
>> Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in
>> the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed,
>> irrespective of relative source movement.
>>
>> Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
>>
>How come there are so many different people talking arrant nnionsense.
>Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under
>different pseudonymes.
They are real people who have rejected indoctrination with Einsteiniana.
>The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is
>a compromise on various Aether theories. Poncaré in fact produced a
>relativisic principle. It was a purely mathematical formulation of
>Special Relativity. The equations of Quantum Electrodynamics are
>invariant under the Lorenz transformation. The world we inabit being
>governed by QE must obey Special Relativity by means of mathematical
>theorem.
Einstein's theory is NOT relativity at all. It is an aether theory that makes
the aether appear redundant.
The second postulate clearly requires an absolute aether to operate. How else
would all starlight in the universe traveling towards planet earth move at the
same speed?
Variable star brightness curves are a c+v effect, as I and others have shown.
>It should be pointed out tthough that Schroedinger's equation is not
>relativistically invariant as it stands. You need to base QE on the
>Dirac equation. This sticks its neck out and gives us antiparicles.
>You need antiparticles to make the equations invariant. The positron
>exists. Now this to anyones mind must be a tremendous vindication.
>Indeed so deeply embedded is Relativity that when the weak nuclear
>force exhibits asymmetry with regard to the antiparticles we say it
>does not have mirror image symmetry. This tells us that the chemistry
>of stereo isomers is different to a part in 10^12.
......irrelevant...
>General Relativity is NOT an aether theory in any way. It cannot be.
>It says some striking and testable things about gravity. Things fall
>because space is curved. Precession of orbit of Mercury, bending of
>light near the Sun (the 1919 eclipse of the Sun).
GR describes a universe in which light speed from all sources is always
measured to be the same by all observers. It merely distorts and curves 'space'
to make that appear true.
In individual cases, it can produce teh same answeers as the BaTh. For
instance, the gravitational blue shift for falling light is the same in both
theories...not surprising.
The GR approach is as stupid as using Earth centrism to describe the motion of
planets.
>However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly
>proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any
>chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco?
There is absolutely NO experimental evidence in support of Einstein's
relativity.
spudnik
the same is true for Big Bang cosmologists, who *assume* that
all of the "photons" are being generated by matter (and that
all quasars are as far away as a Doppler shift'd indicate, but
those are rather exceptional for *any* theory, so far).
Lt.Col. Corso may have been the original Roswell hoaxer; at least
his coauthor exposed him as *a* hoaxer, when Corso couldn't make it
to the bookstore for the signing; he was dying.
> However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly
> proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any
> chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco?
thus:
only that there is no absolute vacuum per Blaise Pascal's experiment
-- he didn't know about partial pressures --
so no "final" value of c, unless it can be calculated
from other known constants & "an ideal region of perfectly empty
space;"
ours is close-enough for all work.
Newton's corpuscles were sum-totally alleviated
by Young's experiments: all essential properties are those
of waves, aside from the seeming ballisticness of the photoelectric
effect, or
when Moon hits your eye like that.
Roswell is strictly a psychological "denial" of the people
of the area about its two elements of cache from around WW2,
as well as a sort of tourist attraction (couldn't be that large,
though .-)
"faster than light" is an idea that is required
by no known physical principles, other than "hard SF,"
the same as multiverses et al ad vomitorium.
> If the light postulate is true, then miraculous effects (time
> dilation, length contraction etc.) do exist and Einstein is at least
> one of the discoverers of the fantastic world we live in. However if
> the light postulate is false, that is, if the speed of light obeys
> Newton's model presenting light as discontinuous bullet-like particles
> and disobeys Maxwell's model presenting light as discontinuous field,
> then Einstein's 1954 confession resolves all remaining problems:
>
> http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a...
> Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
> be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
> Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
> theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
> physics."
thus:
he didn't get that with my example of slaloms,
that he applied to skiing, either, but you have to realize that
the "straight line," even if it exists in a particular stretch,
is also a slalom/brachistochrone/tautochrone. so, I just realized,
the fact that it takes longer to fall from a higher heighth,
is partly a result of "terminal velocity" with air drag.
> It seems that the theory from which his "laws of inertia" are derived
> excludes the Sun's gravity as a "physical cause". If it works anywhere
> at all, that could only be in a very small box. ;)
thus:
well, obviously, the gallilean principle of relativity;
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[snip babble]
> The second postulate clearly requires an absolute aether to operate. How else
> would all starlight in the universe traveling towards planet earth move at the
> same speed?
All these years of whining about relativity can be boiled down to the
nugget of truth displayed here.
[snip babble]
Ian Parker
> Dr. Henri Wilson wrote:
> > Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true
> > concept of relativity.
>
> > A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever
> > their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for
> > this.
>
> > Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
>
> > Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in
> > the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed,
> > irrespective of relative source movement.
>
> > Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
> > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
> >www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
>
> > All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
>
> http://www.searchmash.com/search/einstein+plagiarist
>
1) Is Relativity true (special and general)?
2) Was Einstein a plagiarist etc.
3) What are the motives of "the Einstein Hoax.
I don't think we need waste that much time with "1". Relativity has
been subjected to more tests than any other scientific theory. The
only "controversial" theory that rivals Relativity is Evolution.
Was Einstein a plagiarist? Now all scientists are dependent on their
contemporaries for ideas. Poincaré had the idea for Special
relativity. Poincaré's theory was far less complete than Einstein's.
ll scientists work with other people. Einstein was sometimes wrong, as
he was when he said "Gott wuerfelt nichts" God does not play dice. We
now know that there is chance even at a classical level, and that
chaos demanding ever greater accuracies for predictions into the
future. We can in fact formulate chaos thermodynamically and if we do
we get a constant supply of entropy as we advance in time. Gott
wuerfelt!
I don't know who compiled the "Einstein Hoax" but it is drivel from
beginning to end. Scientists I think are too polite - call drivel
drivel.
We now come to the most interesting part why? Why is so much effort
being expended to discredit Einstein. Roswell, The Black Sun and the
fact that Einstein was Jewish spring to mind. The interesting fact is
that the "Einstein Hoax" seems to be directed solely at Relativity.
Quantum Theory, for which Einstein ironically won a Nobel Prize he was
far less happy with. The reasons I feel stem from WW2.
The US government after WW2 told the people that it was tracking down
war criminals. We now know that that was patently untrue. The CIA set
up a pipeline.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip.htm
Nazi scientists were set at Roswell and other places to carry out
black projects for the CIA and not prosecuted. OK you might say,
people who had relatives killed in the Holocaust do feel a desire for
closure, but if these people have valuable information it should be
used and we should swallow our feelings. Yes, the only trouble is that
the Nazis in general and the Black Sun in particular only had red
herrings to contribute. In 1933 the Germans were internationally
acknowledged to be the leading scientific nation. At the end of the
war they were behind in virtually every field. The only field in which
they had a lead was in liquid fuelled rockets. The Me262 was a great
aircraft but its performance was rapidly overtaken (completely
independently) by the Meteor.
The other aspect is that Nazis start to influence US policy, both
towards Latin America and also internally (viz McCarthy). McCarthy as
we shall see also had a brief to protect the holy nonsense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA
A pipeline was set up. The "Organization der ehemaligen SS Anhoeriger"
sent people to Latin America. Some, of course to the US for
"paperclip". My contention is that "paperclip" was a complete and
utter waste of resources. It violated the basic laws of Physics. If
gravity is the result of a curvature of space then any attempt to
produce antigravity was doomed to failure. Even if you don't accept
full relativity a moments reflection will tell you that if you stepped
into an antigravity machine and broke free of the Earth's gravity you
would have to supply 11^2*10^6/2 J/Kg (11km/s).
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/contents.htm
This is an online book which tells you the whole history of Roswell
and all this nonsense. Roswell BTW is just over 200km from Los Alamos
The plutonium at Roswell mentioned in the book can only have come from
Los Alamos. We come here to McCarthy the keeper of holy nonsense.
http://www.thocp.net/biographies/oppenheimer_robert.htm
Oppenheimer attended Harvard University for his undergraduate studies.
Besides excelling in physics and chemistry, he continued to study
languages, published poetry, and developed an interest in Oriental
philosophy.
Now that is "mis khayyid" if anything ever was! Think he might
actually speak or be able to learn ARABIC! He might actually know
something about the Middle East!
No, to talk about Arabic is really a little bit of a chronoclasm. He
was a good scientist and he had to be discredited for this reason. His
only crime, so called, was to oppose the development of the H bomb. He
did however abide by the decision of the majority. No the real reason
why he was removed is simply this. If he had stayed associated with
Los Alamos the whole of the Black Sun would have been unravelled far
sooner and quite a lot of money would have been saved.
The Nazis and McCarthy were BTW wonderful anticommunists. Not only did
Ludendorff help Lenin into power but the Germans and Soviets gave each
other mutual assistance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet-German_relations_before_1941
Scientists do have a moral responsibility and this cannot be ducked. I
wonder whether the development of a robotic defense capability is
really a good thing. If soldiers are kept out of "harms way" won't
there be more wars and more ethnic cleansing? Iraq BTW has produced
far more refugees than Israel ever did.
I regret that even at this point so much effort is being expended in
Einstein Hoaxes, far more than is spent explaining Relativity. However
probably there are not that many active Einstein Hoaxers. It should be
appreciated that one person based in Langley can have a number of
aliases and appear to be a large group of people when in fact he is
only one. The CIA are still intent on defending "Paperclip". They are
moving from attacking Relativity directly, something which even they
must now realize is pointless to attacking Einstein on a personal
level. They are utterly despicable. I think other posters should
realize that what appears to be a group is really just one person
under different aliases.
The same thing applies to conspiracy theories 9/11 and the Moon
Landings spring to mind. The intention of the CIA is to infiltrate
liberal groups and set up straw conspiracies that can subsequently be
used to discredit them.
Demolition charges in the Twin Towers is used to cover up the
monumental incompetence (admitted even in the official reports) of the
CIA and the role they had in bringing OBL (like Lenin and Ludendorff
before him) to power. Afghanistan was governed extremely badly and the
women subject to monumental abuse. This would however have been the
concern of no one had OBL not bit the hand that helped him to power.
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Ian Parker
299,792,458 m/s
This is a DEFINITION. To me the interesting thing is that c is more
accurate than the scratches on the bar in Paris. The other interesting
fact is that means are now available to actually count at optical
frequencies.
This is to me remarkable.
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
> these guys must not believe in Dirac's positron, but
> the same is true for Big Bang cosmologists, who *assume* that
> all of the "photons" are being generated by matter (and that
> all quasars are as far away as a Doppler shift'd indicate, but
> those are rather exceptional for *any* theory, so far).
>
cosmological distances. We know about the Physics that makes threm
work and we have optical spectra of some of them. You see a quasar
consists of a black hole which is actively moving matter and a galaxy.
Spectra have been taken of these objects so we know their red shift.
The distances are certainly cosmological. If they are NOT far away
what is the alternative explanation for red shift?
"All the photons being generated by matter". I don't know what you
mean. Photons must have a reason for their existence. Are you
referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the
Universe became transparant.
- Ian Parker
Koobee Wublee
> On 8 Jul, 15:49, m II <c...@in.the.hat> wrote:
> >http://www.searchmash.com/search/einstein+plagiarist
>
> It seems to me that there are two independent questions here.
>
> 1) Is Relativity true (special and general)?
The Lorentz transform manifests the twin’s paradox. Thus, the Lorentz
transform cannot be valid. Since SR is an interpretation to the
Lorentz transform, SR cannot be true. <shrug>
The Einstein field equations are derived from faulty mathematical
foundations such as:
** The idol (Riemann curvature tensor)
** The myth (Einstein-Hilbert action)
** The vomit (Hilbert’s Lagrangian)
> 2) Was Einstein a plagiarist etc.
In his 1905 paper, Einstein used garbage to derive the Lorentz
transform. In his 1920 book, Einstein used (0 = 0) to rederive the
Lorentz transform. He knew the answer. He must be a plagiarist.
Back to his 1905 paper, Einstein derived (E = m c^2 / sqrt(1 – v^2 /
c^2)) through a series of errors. Again, he knew the answer before.
He must be plagiarist.
The list goes on. Mr Bjerknes has two books out addressing this
issue.
> 3) What are the motives of "the Einstein Hoax.
You claimed to have only 2 independent questions, but I see three.
What is your motive?
> I don't think we need waste that much time with "1".
That is because you never understood the Lorentz transform and the
field equations.
> Relativity has
> been subjected to more tests than any other scientific theory.
This is a myth. MYSTICISM IS WISDOM.
> The
> only "controversial" theory that rivals Relativity is Evolution.
Nonsense.
> Was Einstein a plagiarist?
Yes, absolutely beyond any reasons of double.
> Now all scientists are dependent on their
> contemporaries for ideas.
Excuse for Einstein’s plagiarism. PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY.
> Poincaré had the idea for Special
> relativity.
Poincare was the first to analyze the Lorentz transform officially. I
surmise Voigt might have done that already more a decade prior.
Seeing through the absurdity of relative simultaneity that manifests
the twin’s paradox, Voigt opted to publish the Voigt transform instead
of the Lorentz transform in 1887.
> Poincaré's theory was far less complete than Einstein's.
This is not true, but an interpretation is merely an interpretation.
<shrug>
> ll scientists work with other people. Einstein was sometimes wrong, as
> he was when he said "Gott wuerfelt nichts" God does not play dice. We
> now know that there is chance even at a classical level, and that
> chaos demanding ever greater accuracies for predictions into the
> future. We can in fact formulate chaos thermodynamically and if we do
> we get a constant supply of entropy as we advance in time. Gott
> wuerfelt!
If there is no lies in the current revised history, Einstein was
always wrong. He is even wrong to plagiarize the nonsense of the
Lorentz transform. <shrug>
> I don't know who compiled the "Einstein Hoax" but it is drivel from
> beginning to end.
The old-timers refer the author of “Einstein Hoax” as Mr. Wittke.
> Scientists I think are too polite - call drivel
> drivel.
<shrug> The same scientists are driveled in Orwellian education where
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
> We now come to the most interesting part why? Why is so much effort
> being expended to discredit Einstein.
So, it is personal for you because you hate your messiah to be exposed
as merely a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar.
> Roswell, The Black Sun and the
> fact that Einstein was Jewish spring to mind. The interesting fact is
> that the "Einstein Hoax" seems to be directed solely at Relativity.
How do you explain that?
> Quantum Theory, for which Einstein ironically won a Nobel Prize he was
> far less happy with. The reasons I feel stem from WW2.
Someone has to do something to create the messiah out of a nitwit, a
plagiarist, and a a liar. <shrug>
> The US government after WW2 told the people that it was tracking down
> war criminals. We now know that that was patently untrue. The CIA set
> up a pipeline.
>
> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip.htm
The only thing correct about the revised history of WWII seems to be
which side won the war. <shrug>
> Nazi scientists were set at Roswell and other places to carry out
> black projects for the CIA and not prosecuted.
You seem to believe in whole bunch of crap. <shrug>
> OK you might say,
> people who had relatives killed in the Holocaust do feel a desire for
> closure, but if these people have valuable information it should be
> used and we should swallow our feelings.
These people don’t give a dam about their dead relatives. They merely
want to profit from their demise. The profit is not only limited to
the stipend the German government and corporations gave away every
month. To care about their deceased relatives, they ought to find out
the real reasons and circumstances to bring to a truth and complete
closure. But no, they continue to profit from it.
> Yes, the only trouble is that
> the Nazis in general and the Black Sun in particular only had red
> herrings to contribute.
You are so wrong about that.
> In 1933 the Germans were internationally
> acknowledged to be the leading scientific nation.
That is very debatable, but I will give in to this one.
> At the end of the
> war they were behind in virtually every field.
I strongly dispute this one.
> The only field in which
> they had a lead was in liquid fuelled rockets.
This is not the only field.
> The Me262 was a great aircraft
Too bad, it was built as a fighter. According to Hitler, it was best
to have this fast aircraft developed as a bomber. A better aircraft
more suitable as a fighter is DO335. The Jewish Luftwaffe field
marshal, Milch, really screwed that one up. Wait, a Jewish field
marshal in the Luftwaffe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_335
> but its performance was rapidly overtaken (completely
> independently) by the Meteor.
ME 262 was developed in 1941. Hind sight being 20/20 should not be
construed as any capable assessment of any situation. <shrug> Heard
of GO229? It only took Northrup 30 years to reverse-engineer this
baby the first triple 1000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_229
If Udet were still in charge of which aircraft to produce, the war
would have been very much different. <shrug>
> The other aspect is that Nazis start to influence US policy, both
> towards Latin America and also internally (viz McCarthy).
You must be a conspiracy nut.
> McCarthy as
> we shall see also had a brief to protect the holy nonsense.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA
This is total garbage. The organization is merely one to help these
men to live out their lives peacefully, but it did not work very
well. Peiper was killed by a mob.
> A pipeline was set up. The "Organization der ehemaligen SS Anhoeriger"
> sent people to Latin America. Some, of course to the US for
> "paperclip". My contention is that "paperclip" was a complete and
> utter waste of resources. It violated the basic laws of Physics. If
> gravity is the result of a curvature of space then any attempt to
> produce antigravity was doomed to failure. Even if you don't accept
> full relativity a moments reflection will tell you that if you stepped
> into an antigravity machine and broke free of the Earth's gravity you
> would have to supply 11^2*10^6/2 J/Kg (11km/s).
>
> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/content...
So, you believe in antigravity as well. :-)
> This is an online book which tells you the whole history of Roswell [...]
More conspiracy nonsense.
> Oppenheimer [...] He
> was a good scientist and he had to be discredited for this reason. His
> only crime, so called, was to oppose the development of the H bomb. He
> did however abide by the decision of the majority. No the real reason
> why he was removed is simply this. If he had stayed associated with
> Los Alamos the whole of the Black Sun would have been unravelled far
> sooner and quite a lot of money would have been saved.
One of the conditions of the Yalta conference was to allow the allies
to share equally among the spoil of war prize. While the clowns
working on the Manhattan project were busy playing jokes on each other
and trying to enrich Uranium by using electromagnetism, the Nazis
under two different teams were doing centrifuge and bleeder reactor to
enrich Uranium and Plutonium respectively. Half of the enriched
uranium was tested prior to August of 1945. The other half was
dropped on Hiroshima, and the plutonium was dropped on Nakasaki. The
US had no more atomic weapons right after that to continue to fire
bomb the entire Japanese islands. Oppenheimer and his fellow
communists were merely pissed off at the government for cheating the
Soviets from this war spoil. Von Neumann had too much conscience. It
was rumored in his deathbed he might spill the beans.
> The Nazis and McCarthy were BTW wonderful anticommunists. Not only did
> Ludendorff help Lenin into power but the Germans and Soviets gave each
> other mutual assistance.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet-German_relations_before_1941
The Soviet-Nazi nonaggression pact was signed only a week or two
before the Nazi invasion of Poland, and you call that full blown
cooperation.
Hitler only sent Von Ribbentrop to USSR after Poland reneged (after
urging from the western allies to do so) on the treaty of Danzig to
allow this port city to become a free port. Hitler did not want to
fight both the western allies and the Soviets at the same time. That
is why this pact was signed.
> Scientists do have a moral responsibility [...]
But they don’t. I have had enough of this.
Koobee Wublee
> How come there are so many different people talking arrant nnionsense.
First of all, we have to find out about what nonsense is in
nnionsense.
> Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under
> different pseudonymes.
I smell witch hunt.
> The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is
> a compromise on various Aether theories.
SR is one of the many interpretations to the Lorentz transform, and
there is nothing more than that. <shrug>
> Poncaré in fact produced a
> relativisic principle.
Poincare did not produce any principles in relativity nor did anyone
else besides Galileo (the principle of relativity) and Voigt
(constancy in the speed of light).
> It was a purely mathematical formulation of
> Special Relativity. The equations of Quantum Electrodynamics are
> invariant under the Lorenz transformation. The world we inabit being
> governed by QE must obey Special Relativity by means of mathematical
> theorem.
>
> It should be pointed out tthough that Schroedinger's equation is not
> relativistically invariant as it stands. You need to base QE on the
> Dirac equation. This sticks its neck out and gives us antiparicles.
> You need antiparticles to make the equations invariant. The positron
> exists. Now this to anyones mind must be a tremendous vindication.
> Indeed so deeply embedded is Relativity that when the weak nuclear
> force exhibits asymmetry with regard to the antiparticles we say it
> does not have mirror image symmetry. This tells us that the chemistry
> of stereo isomers is different to a part in 10^12.
>
> General Relativity is NOT an aether theory in any way. It cannot be.
> It says some striking and testable things about gravity. Things fall
> because space is curved. Precession of orbit of Mercury, bending of
> light near the Sun (the 1919 eclipse of the Sun).
Bullsh*t to the max.
> However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly
> proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any
> chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco?
You are no PhD but a PhD want-to-be. <shrug.
Androcles
"Koobee Wublee" <koobee...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a0dd9d15-0503-43bc...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 9, 6:45 am, Ian Parker wrote:
> On 8 Jul, 15:49, m II <c...@in.the.hat> wrote:
> >http://www.searchmash.com/search/einstein+plagiarist
>
> It seems to me that there are two independent questions here.
>
> 1) Is Relativity true (special and general)?
The Lorentz transform manifests the twin’s paradox. Thus, the Lorentz
transform cannot be valid. Since SR is an interpretation to the
Lorentz transform, SR cannot be true. <shrug>
The MMX and Sagnac transforms manifests the aether’s paradox. Thus, the
Maxwell -Lorentz-Wublee aether cannot be valid. Since Wublee aether is an
interpretation to the Maxwell-Lorentz aether, Wublee must be a fuckhead.
<shrug>
spudnik
doppler shift is not the only plausible reason
for redshifts. are there any blueshifts, at all,
by the way?
> The distances are certainly cosmological. If they are NOT far away
> what is the alternative explanation for red shift?
>
> "All the photons being generated by matter". I don't know what you
> mean. Photons must have a reason for their existence. Are you
> referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the
> Universe became transparant.
thus:
Eric Gisse
> On Jul 7, 3:29 am, Ian Parker wrote:
>
> > How come there are so many different people talking arrant nnionsense.
>
> First of all, we have to find out about what nonsense is in
> nnionsense.
>
> > Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under
> > different pseudonymes.
>
> I smell witch hunt.
>
> > The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is
> > a compromise on various Aether theories.
>
> SR is one of the many interpretations to the Lorentz transform, and
> there is nothing more than that. <shrug>
Provide one literature reference that agrees with you. Otherwise it is
just personal opinion.
[snip]
Koobee Wublee
> On Jul 9, 12:18 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > SR is one of the many interpretations to the Lorentz transform, and
> > there is nothing more than that. <shrug>
>
> Provide one literature reference that agrees with you. Otherwise it is
> just personal opinion.
So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
is no one agrees with my point of view. Well, so far the only one
agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
a whacko as we all have known. Mike has also seen my point of view on
the subject of the metric being no tensor but merely a matrix.
Professor Roberts agreed with me that it takes a unique metric and a
unique coordinate system to describe an invariant geometry, but he
stopped short of accepting the metric being merely a matrix.
A few years ago, when I discovered that Milch the Luftwaffe field
marshal had a Jewish father, I was totally in shock because of what I
was told. After a week or two or broken spirit, I have recovered and
accepted the reality ever since. From then on, I vowed not to accept
the so-called authority with great faith. In doing so, I was able to
keep going and have kept my sanity. The truth will get you eventually
if you are an ethical and honest person which so far I see you as a
henchman to quell any truth. <shrug>
The twin’s paradox remains a spike into the heart of SR. Brushing
away the mystical spell cast on GR, the naked field equations just
fall apart after their mathematical foundation is exposed.
Eric Gisse
> On Jul 9, 9:40 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 9, 12:18 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > > SR is one of the many interpretations to the Lorentz transform, and
> > > there is nothing more than that. <shrug>
>
> > Provide one literature reference that agrees with you. Otherwise it is
> > just personal opinion.
>
> So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
> is no one agrees with my point of view.
Its' like telling a crazy person they are crazy. There's no real
point.
Challenging your opinions is remarkably pointless as you are unable to
defend them. I ask for proof, you tell me to "look it up" or some such
bullshit. Its' actually impressive to see you use the same excuse time
after time for years on end - maybe you actually believe you've
supplied the proofs at some indefinite point in the past. It is
interesting to see that you can never actually supply the proof
though.
> Well, so far the only one
> agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
> a whacko as we all have known. Mike has also seen my point of view on
> the subject of the metric being no tensor but merely a matrix.
So your only supporters are people you admit are lunatics. What does
that say about you?
> Professor Roberts agreed with me that it takes a unique metric and a
> unique coordinate system to describe an invariant geometry, but he
> stopped short of accepting the metric being merely a matrix.
And if one was to actually look at what he said, what would be seen?
How about a link to the post where he says it? I expect that you can't
provide the reference and instead will tell me to find it myself.
>
> A few years ago, when I discovered that Milch the Luftwaffe field
> marshal had a Jewish father, I was totally in shock because of what I
> was told. After a week or two or broken spirit, I have recovered and
> accepted the reality ever since. From then on, I vowed not to accept
> the so-called authority with great faith. In doing so, I was able to
> keep going and have kept my sanity. The truth will get you eventually
> if you are an ethical and honest person which so far I see you as a
> henchman to quell any truth. <shrug>
So you reject the status quo out of spite rather than informed reason?
My, what a nuanced position.
>
> The twin’s paradox remains a spike into the heart of SR. Brushing
> away the mystical spell cast on GR, the naked field equations just
> fall apart after their mathematical foundation is exposed.
Your arguments are void. You cannot explain what you perceive to be
flaws in special or general relativity, all you can do is repeat the
point and hope it becomes valid through repetition.
Observe your insistence on using misleading, non-standard, confusing,
and plain /wrong/ terminology despite being repeatedly corrected ever
since you started using this pseudonym.
Observe how you are unable to supply actual proofs for your claims.
Observe how you revert to ad-hom attacks against myself, Einstein, and
others when you are called on your bullshit.
Lather, rinse, repeat. You are a crazy person - I respond to you only
so long as it entertains me as I have no expectation of ever seeing
you fixed or even acknowledge that you have a problem.
Odysseus
<61b80a79-cac2-4a77...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
spudnik <Spac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> photons from antimatter look the same.
>
> doppler shift is not the only plausible reason
> for redshifts. are there any blueshifts, at all,
> by the way?
Certainly: M31 in Andromeda is a prominent example from the Local Group.
But beyond a certain distance (~10-20 Mpc?) no galaxies have fast enough
proper motion to offset their cosmological redshifts.
--
Odysseus
Androcles
> > SR is one of the many interpretations to the Lorentz transform, and
> > there is nothing more than that. <shrug>
>
> Provide one literature reference that agrees with you. Otherwise it is
> just personal opinion.
So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
is no one agrees with my point of view. Well, so far the only one
agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
a whacko as we all have known.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The 19th century aetherialist, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
The stupid broken senile cunt cannot address the issue and merely
whines about his precious aether.
Ian Parker
> A few years ago, when I discovered that Milch the Luftwaffe field
> marshal had a Jewish father, I was totally in shock because of what I
> was told. After a week or two or broken spirit, I have recovered and
> accepted the reality ever since. From then on, I vowed not to accept
> the so-called authority with great faith. In doing so, I was able to
> keep going and have kept my sanity. The truth will get you eventually
> if you are an ethical and honest person which so far I see you as a
> henchman to quell any truth. <shrug>
>
Why is it shocking.are you a nazi? To me what is shocking is the fact
that Ludendorff sent Lenin to St Peterburg in a sealed train, financed
Lenin, bleated to the allies when Bolsevism came nearer to Germany and
then concocted with Hitler the myth of the Jewish conspiracy.
OBL was sent by Reagan to Afghanistan in the equivalent of a "sealed
train". That too is shocking. 9/11 occured because of CIA
incompetance, even the official reprt makes this clear.
Explosive charges in the twin towers is also a myth concocted to cover
up these facts.
> The twin’s paradox remains a spike into the heart of SR. Brushing
> away the mystical spell cast on GR, the naked field equations just
> fall apart after their mathematical foundation is exposed.
Where is the paradox?
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
Heil Hitler! How come the Manhatten team produced 2 nuclear bombs.
Germany in fact used its Uranium for anti tank wespons. It in fact
gave up on nuclear bombs.
- Ian Parker
Koobee Wublee
> On Jul 9, 10:17 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
> > is no one agrees with my point of view.
>
> Its' like telling a crazy person they are crazy. There's no real
> point. [snipped the rest of crap]
You are really intoxicated with Einstein’s fermented diarrhea.
Koobee Wublee
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
> > is no one agrees with my point of view. Well, so far the only one
> > agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
> > a whacko as we all have known.
>
> The 19th century aetherialist, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
> or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
Androcles the nitwit, the plagiarist, the aether-denier is out of
control again. This time he is crying wolf.
> The stupid broken senile cunt cannot address the issue and merely
> whines about his precious aether.
Androcles is mad just because the great Koobee Wublee does not endorse
his denial in the Aether. Whine, cry, yell, talk to your deceased
daughter.
Wait! Your daughter is trying to contact you from the other side of
the aether. Don’t deny it. Look for it. <shrug>
Androcles
=============================================
The 19th century fuckhead, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
Koobee Wublee
> On 10 Jul, 07:17, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
> > A few years ago, when I discovered that Milch the Luftwaffe field
> > marshal had a Jewish father, I was totally in shock because of what I
> > was told. After a week or two or broken spirit, I have recovered and
> > accepted the reality ever since. From then on, I vowed not to accept
> > the so-called authority with great faith. In doing so, I was able to
> > keep going and have kept my sanity. The truth will get you eventually
> > if you are an ethical and honest person which so far I see you as a
> > henchman to quell any truth. <shrug>
>
> Why is it shocking.are you a nazi?
No.
> To me what is shocking is the fact
> that Ludendorff sent Lenin to St Peterburg in a sealed train, financed
> Lenin, bleated to the allies when Bolsevism came nearer to Germany and
> then concocted with Hitler the myth of the Jewish conspiracy.
>
> OBL was sent by Reagan to Afghanistan in the equivalent of a "sealed
> train". That too is shocking. 9/11 occured because of CIA
> incompetance, even the official reprt makes this clear.
>
> Explosive charges in the twin towers is also a myth concocted to cover
> up these facts.
So, you believe in another conspiracy conjecture to over rule another
conspiracy conjecture. That is total madness. <shrug>
> > The twin’s paradox remains a spike into the heart of SR. Brushing
> > away the mystical spell cast on GR, the naked field equations just
> > fall apart after their mathematical foundation is exposed.
>
> Where is the paradox?
So, a self-claimed PhD in physics has not heard of the paradox of SR.
It is the twin’s paradox. Study, understand, and come back to discuss
it.
Koobee Wublee
> Heil Hitler!
You are mad.
> How come the Manhatten team produced 2 nuclear bombs.
Beats me.
> Germany in fact used its Uranium for anti tank wespons.
This is the first time I heard of it using depleted uranium instead of
tungsten for armor penetration, but I am not surprised that the Nazi
were the first to enrich uranium and plutonium years before the US
repeated the same feats.
> It in fact
> gave up on nuclear bombs.
There is no indication that the Nazi were able to devise a device able
to detonate the enriched uranium or plutonium that I have come across,
but if the war had dragged on for another few months, I would not be
surprised nuclear bombs would be dropping in Paris, London, Warsaw,
and the advancing Soviet troops.
Eric Gisse
True to form, the crazy person responds with something insane.
Androcles
On Jul 10, 3:49 am, Ian Parker wrote:
> On 10 Jul, 07:17, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
> > A few years ago, when I discovered that Milch the Luftwaffe field
> > marshal had a Jewish father, I was totally in shock because of what I
> > was told. After a week or two or broken spirit, I have recovered and
> > accepted the reality ever since. From then on, I vowed not to accept
> > the so-called authority with great faith. In doing so, I was able to
> > keep going and have kept my sanity. The truth will get you eventually
> > if you are an ethical and honest person which so far I see you as a
> > henchman to quell any truth. <shrug>
>
> Why is it shocking.are you a nazi?
No.
Liar.
The 19th century fuckheaded lying Nazi, Wublee, has no explanation for
Ian Parker
This is probably the most accurate reference on the war in
Afghanistan, the role of OBL and the CIA. You cannot get away from the
fact that the CIA did support him and did unleash Islamic extremism.
When the Taliban gained power they produced one of the most obnoxious
régimes in hisory. However nobody would have worried had they not
decided to bite the hand that armed them
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/Executive%20Summary_OIG%20Report.pdf
Official report - monumental incompetance.
gives summary.
There is one thing in particular which is worrying me and that is the
level of anti semitism in some of the contributions. Do we have a neo
nazi organization?
It seems to me that the Jews are responsible whenever bum decisions
are taken. Whether OBL's or Lenin's "sealed train" or even the war in
Iraq. It was the CIA that lied about WMD, Bush and Blair who swallowed
those lies whole.
They are the people responsible for 1.3 million refugees in Syria, 1m
in Jordan and 2m internally in Iraq. NO ONE ELSE.
As someone who has studied Physics and have found the experimental
evidence for Relativity indisputable, it seems odd to me that so many
people are disputing it so energetically. I think this is a cover for
Roswell and the fraud perpetrated there. It is certainly an organized
disinformation campaign. It is not just a few people having difficulty
with some of the concepts.
Ordinary Americans should be dead worried about the antisemitism. I
don't support everything the Jewish lobby does, but I feel it is a
necessary counterweight. The thought strikes me. are these people in
favor of a Middle Eastern peace where Israel exchanges land +
technology transfer in exchange for peace, or are they secretly
working for more intolerance and an Arab victory? - Might I add
against their own government.
- Ian Parker
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
> On Jul 10, 3:54 am, Ian Parker wrote:
>
> > Heil Hitler!
>
> You are mad.
>
> > How come the Manhatten team produced 2 nuclear bombs.
>
> Beats me.
>
> > Germany in fact used its Uranium for anti tank wespons.
>
> This is the first time I heard of it using depleted uranium instead of
> tungsten for armor penetration, but I am not surprised that the Nazi
> were the first to enrich uranium and plutonium years before the US
> repeated the same feats.
>
WW2. In WW2 though it was not depleted. DU is in fact cheaper than
Tungsten and at the lastter stages of the war the Germans faced a
shortage of raw materials.
> > It in fact
> > gave up on nuclear bombs.
>
> There is no indication that the Nazi were able to devise a device able
> to detonate the enriched uranium or plutonium that I have come across,
> but if the war had dragged on for another few months, I would not be
> surprised nuclear bombs would be dropping in Paris, London, Warsaw,
> and the advancing Soviet troops.
But you are just claiming they were. They were years azway. The
Manhatten team in fact thought they were a lot further advanced than
they were. Threre would in fact have been little enthusiasm for a
nuclear bomb simply to finish Japan off.
- Ian Parker
Plato Been
Lunch Break
5 July 2008
{HRI note 20080705-II-A}
(Addition on
11 July 2008)
The Einstein Hoax:
"Space is created by photons."
Space (therefore) "is curved" because photons, of course,
bend to gravity.
"Time is created by photons."
Time and space (therefore) "are relative."
The soul (therefore) "does not exist."
'
Speed faster than light (therefore) "does not exist."
(Therefore, space travel, Roswell, etc. "does not exist.")
'
'
The facts:
"Science" is largely being DESTROYED by Criminal Minds.
This is very obvious in the medical "sciences," that
wholly deny life itself and therefore they have a host
of diseases "with no known cause" (nor cure), and a near
endless syupply of bad "cures."
In 'modern' physics and 'modern' astronomy "sciences"
life itself is also wholly denied, by Criminal Minds,
resulting in Big and smaller Bangs, and a plethora of
other nonsensical, highly destructive assumptions as
"scientific" and "rational" - as "rational" as denying
that air exists.
I quote from my recent work: *(1)
[begin quote]
' You have been made so exceedingly, so nauseatingly
and so FORCEFULLY stupid BY Criminal Minds, that it
is, of course, hard to tell you, that the Earth is
not flat nowadays.
This happened only a few hundred years ago,
there was a Big Bang, making a Brief History
of Time,
and this is actually part of the
formation process of planets,
suddenly the disk of Earth warped in a
space-time continuum vortex, to have its
edges meet
in curved space, which is the natural
space of the Universe, its edges meeting
due to the 'One-Stonian' attraction of edges
- these being rock-formations made
primarily of silicates, or stones
as you know these by their common
name -
into a cosmic event known as multi-dimensional
'orbification'
- involving both the dimensions two and
three,
as can be described mathematically by
differential equations of similar or
higher dimension,
when these are posited in
Non-Euclidian space, of course.
This happened all in a time space of nano-
seconds, and so, nobody noticed the actual
event - until much later,
scientists did find certain anomalies which
indicated to them
- the anomalies being unequivocally
confirmed by double blind studies,
and by public polls, did prove -
that the Earth in fact HAD changed from being
a flat disc;
the main evidence presented was, that
the Earth appeared now to be an orb,
the shape of a ball, a sphere.
Thus it came to pass, that, as the Earth's disc
world turned, it changed into a ball, an orb,
which made it also easier for it to circle the
sun in an orbit (rather than the sun orbiting
around the Earth) and
this aided in keeping its climate stable.
'
' Finished joking - NOT joking, now:
[end quote]
"Science" is largely engaged in DESTROYING KNOWLEDGE and
in DENYING the most vital facts, BECAUSE it is being
undermined largely BY Criminal Minds (sociopaths).
Einstein is a hoax, and he knew that himself, too.
Ian Parker - being persistent in his malice - IS a Criminal Mind.
Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright conditions as usual ('learnware')
________
Footnote:
'Definition of Perception - Protecting against the Criminal Mind
- Fine Particle Physics on the main Poisonous Life Energy
Particles'
{FPP-HRI 20080608-V3.4}
(8 June 2008 - Version 3.4 on 24 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/86abd93d0b48fc74
__________________________________________________________
On Jul 6, 3:29 pm, Ian Parker <ianp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
> NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
> orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
> rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
> (just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
> connected with the Roswell Hoax?
>
> - Ian Parker
Ian Parker
>
> __________________________________________________________
> On Jul 6, 3:29 pm, Ian Parker <ianpar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
> > NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
> > orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
> > rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
> > (just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
> > connected with the Roswell Hoax?
>
This is all the Honywell Buzzword Generator. Everything said has
merely served to confirm what I have said.
- Ian Pa\rker
Koobee Wublee
> On 10 Jul, 18:10, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > This is the first time I heard of it using depleted uranium instead of
> > tungsten for armor penetration, but I am not surprised that the Nazi
> > were the first to enrich uranium and plutonium years before the US
> > repeated the same feats.
>
> DU is used in modern anti armor rounds. The properties were known in
> WW2.
Yes, it is very obvious. <shrug> Can you express your opinion in
line with your claimed education of being a PhD?
> In WW2 though it was not depleted.
Depleted uranium is not depleted in WW2. So, how does that make any
sense?
> DU is in fact cheaper than
> Tungsten and at the lastter stages of the war the Germans faced a
> shortage of raw materials.
It depends on the relative supply abundance. It looks the PhD in you
has failed to understand the basic economics. <shrug>
> > There is no indication that the Nazi were able to devise a device able
> > to detonate the enriched uranium or plutonium that I have come across,
> > but if the war had dragged on for another few months, I would not be
> > surprised nuclear bombs would be dropping in Paris, London, Warsaw,
> > and the advancing Soviet troops.
>
> But you are just claiming they were.
I was claiming the enriched uranium and plutonium that US has claimed
to have achieved towards the summer of 1945 were indeed having a Nazi
origin. <shrug>
> They were years azway. The
> Manhatten team in fact thought they were a lot further advanced than
> they were.
The Manhattan team was a joke where the members would rather play
jokes on each rather than working on the hopeless problem in which
they all thought. They all believed in Heisenberg’s claim earlier
aimed to mislead the allies about the minimum fission material needed.
Even after they got hold of German enriched fission material, safety
to handle these radioactive materials was not implemented. Even Von
Neumann himself was succumb to the radiation poisoning.
> Threre would in fact have been little enthusiasm for a
> nuclear bomb simply to finish Japan off.
The lack of enthusiasm was because that they did not develop the
enrichment. It was the two separate teams of Nazi’s that did it.
<shrug>
Koobee Wublee
> On 10 Jul, 18:04, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > So, a self-claimed PhD in physics has not heard of the paradox of SR.
> > It is the twin’s paradox. Study, understand, and come back to discuss
> > it.
>
> http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&id=ToYxFL5wmBIC&dq=OBL+in+Sovie...
So, what is the paradox of SR has anything to do with your Bin Laden?
> This is probably the most accurate reference on the war in
> Afghanistan, the role of OBL and the CIA. You cannot get away from the
> fact that the CIA did support him and did unleash Islamic extremism.
Are you schizophrenic? Is the changing of subject a deliberate
attempt or a schizophrenic issue?
> When the Taliban gained power they produced one of the most obnoxious
> régimes in hisory.
According to their enemies. Just because they refused to allow the US
and its western allies to build the oil pipeline, you don’t have to
call them an obnoxious regime.
> However nobody would have worried had they not
> decided to bite the hand that armed them
Usually, they don’t. An oath is a very powerful binding except in
certain culture. <shrug>
> There is one thing in particular which is worrying me and that is the
> level of anti semitism in some of the contributions. Do we have a neo
> nazi organization?
Your worry is a farce. There is no witch hunt. <shrug>
> It seems to me that the Jews are responsible whenever bum decisions
> are taken. Whether OBL's or Lenin's "sealed train" or even the war in
> Iraq. It was the CIA that lied about WMD, Bush and Blair who swallowed
> those lies whole.
So, a Brit has figured out the intricacies played out in the CIA.
Wow! Did you do so through the Enigma machine which was already
obtained by the Great Britain two years before Hitler came into power?
> They are the people responsible for 1.3 million refugees in Syria, 1m
> in Jordan and 2m internally in Iraq. NO ONE ELSE.
Have you been there to tally up all these refugees?
> As someone who has studied Physics and have found the experimental
> evidence for Relativity indisputable, it seems odd to me that so many
> people are disputing it so energetically.
This means you are very shallow minded. <shrug>
> I think this is a cover for
> Roswell and the fraud perpetrated there. It is certainly an organized
> disinformation campaign. It is not just a few people having difficulty
> with some of the concepts.
Here we go again --- blaming your incompetence in understanding of SR
on the Roswell.
> Ordinary Americans should be dead worried about the antisemitism.
How do you know? You are a Brit and not an American.
> I
> don't support everything the Jewish lobby does, but I feel it is a
> necessary counterweight.
So, what does your statement really mean? Do you not mean what you
say or say not what you mean? Is it how you got your PhD?
> The thought strikes me. are these people in
> favor of a Middle Eastern peace where Israel exchanges land +
> technology transfer in exchange for peace, or are they secretly
> working for more intolerance and an Arab victory? - Might I add
> against their own government.
You are utterly f*cked up beyond imagine to tie the stupidity of SR
with the unfair politics in the middle east.
Koobee Wublee
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
> > > is no one agrees with my point of view. Well, so far the only one
> > > agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
> > > a whacko as we all have known.
>
> > The 19th century aetherialist, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
> > or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
>
> Androcles the nitwit, the plagiarist, the aether-denier is out of
> control again. This time he is crying wolf.
>
> > The stupid broken senile cunt cannot address the issue and merely
> > whines about his precious aether.
>
> Androcles is mad just because the great Koobee Wublee does not endorse
> his denial in the Aether. Whine, cry, yell, talk to your deceased
> daughter.
>
> Wait! Your daughter is trying to contact you from the other side of
> the aether. Don’t deny it. Look for it. <shrug>
> =============================================
>
> The 19th century fuckhead, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
> or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
There is nothing to explain why zero is zero. Androcles is an idiot
who cannot understand the concept of zero --- a stupid Brit with
mentality not any more advanced than during the renaissance. <shrug>
Koobee Wublee
> On Jul 10, 8:56 am, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > You are really intoxicated with Einstein’s fermented diarrhea.
>
> True to form, the crazy person responds with something insane.
Pardon me. I did not know the stuff I was responding to was a work of
an insane man. That means you are insane. That also explains why you
are a multi-year super senior today. <shrug>
Androcles
> > "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So, you are broken except hanging on to the thread of hope that there
> > > is no one agrees with my point of view. Well, so far the only one
> > > agrees with me on the GPS stuff is Androcles and hanson. Androcles is
> > > a whacko as we all have known.
>
> > The 19th century aetherialist, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
> > or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
>
> Androcles the nitwit, the plagiarist, the aether-denier is out of
> control again. This time he is crying wolf.
>
> > The stupid broken senile cunt cannot address the issue and merely
> > whines about his precious aether.
>
> Androcles is mad just because the great Koobee Wublee does not endorse
> his denial in the Aether. Whine, cry, yell, talk to your deceased
> daughter.
>
> Wait! Your daughter is trying to contact you from the other side of
> the aether. Don’t deny it. Look for it. <shrug>
> =============================================
>
> The 19th century fuckhead, Wublee, has no explanation for Sagnac
> or MMX and is left mumbling and muttering that others are whacko.
There is nothing to explain why zero is zero.
==============================
HAHAHA! Sagnac is NOT zero, you fucking bumbling cretin.
Ian Parker
The Manhatten team produced the goods. You ask the Japanese. Hiroshima
was U235 and a gun. Nagasaki was Pu239 and an implosion device.
Nagasaki was a lot more eficient than Hiroshima in terms of conversion
efficience although both were rated at 20KT. The Germans produced
nothing. Manhatten worked in parallel on two different systems both of
which worked.
Probieren geht ueber studieren is a GERMAN proverb. Manhatten worked,
no other nuclear program in WW2 did.
I feel I should have made it clear that isotopes have no effect on
chemical properties. DU is ever so slightly <0.02% denser than Natural
Uranium which was used in German anti tank weapons.
Aldebaron and the Black Sun produced nothing either in Germany durinf
the war or after at Roswell and Area 51. "Aldebaron khayyid" was vital
for the Holocaust, that is just a pun of mine. I don't think you
appreciate it. Join the Iraq club!
- Ian Parker
Koobee Wublee
> On 12 Jul, 07:42, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > The lack of enthusiasm was because that they did not develop the
> > enrichment. It was the two separate teams of Nazi’s that did it.
> > <shrug>
>
> The Manhatten team produced the goods. You ask the Japanese. Hiroshima
> was U235 and a gun. Nagasaki was Pu239 and an implosion device.
> Nagasaki was a lot more eficient than Hiroshima in terms of conversion
> efficience although both were rated at 20KT.
The Los Alamos clowns used up all silver reserves on low-resistance
wires. They were hoping to enrich fissionable uranium through
electromagnetism. That could not have worked.
> The Germans produced
> nothing. Manhatten worked in parallel on two different systems both of
> which worked.
On the other hand, the Germans correctly applied centrifuge to enrich
uranium during WWII.
> Probieren geht ueber studieren is a GERMAN proverb. Manhatten worked,
> no other nuclear program in WW2 did.
Centrifuge is by far the most effective means of enriching uranium.
Since the Los Alamos clowns did not incorporate centrifuge, they could
not have obtained the enriched uranium. <shrug>
> I feel I should have made it clear that isotopes have no effect on
> chemical properties. DU is ever so slightly <0.02% denser than Natural
> Uranium which was used in German anti tank weapons.
Yes, I agree. Since depleted uranium suits no other useful purpose,
might as well use it for armor penetration. If the Nazi did indeed do
that, they are more likely to be depleted uranium. <shrug>
> Aldebaron and the Black Sun produced nothing either in Germany durinf
> the war or after at Roswell and Area 51.
All are myths. <shrug>
> "Aldebaron khayyid" was vital
> for the Holocaust, that is just a pun of mine. I don't think you
> appreciate it. Join the Iraq club!
That is correct that I do not appreciate it because I have no idea
what you are talking about. <shrug>
Androcles
On Jul 12, 11:57 am, Ian Parker wrote:
> On 12 Jul, 07:42, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > The lack of enthusiasm was because that they did not develop the
> > enrichment. It was the two separate teams of Nazi’s that did it.
> > <shrug>
>
> The Manhatten team produced the goods. You ask the Japanese. Hiroshima
> was U235 and a gun. Nagasaki was Pu239 and an implosion device.
> Nagasaki was a lot more eficient than Hiroshima in terms of conversion
> efficience although both were rated at 20KT.
The Los Alamos clowns
-------------------------------------
Hey fuckhead!
Sagnac is not zero.
What does you magic aether say about that?
spudnik
a way of looking at Einstein's photoelectrical effect (see:
the "photons" "dysappear" into the apparatus, or
similalry into the "lightcones" of the eyeball);
there is no neccesity of making the quantum of light
to be a "point," or in any way localized. so,
superstringtheory at least gets rid of hte point,
from the get-go & without further a-do.
howsoever it is that matter bends space,
as measured by Gauss for the government of France
in the 19th cce, light travels through this bent medium,
which apparently also alters the shape of it --
no timespace utterances needed.
> > "Space is created by photons."
>
> > Space (therefore) "is curved" because photons, of course,
> > bend to gravity.
>
> > "Time is created by photons."
>
> > Time and space (therefore) "are relative."
> > > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
> > > NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic
> > > orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is
> > > rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand
> > > (just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it
> > > connected with the Roswell Hoax?
thus:
a-hem, Uncle Bucky left a clue to 4d calculus in _S_, and
I'm surprized that I've never seen it implimented, although
its one special property makes it weird, for a fermatian or
cartesian system. well, I did see some sort of whack
at it in a historical text on coordination, but it wasn't
quite in the natural order of the thing, as I recall.
anyway, weird is good, in mathematics;
also, Nel Cliffordson mentioned it!
as it was, I'm sure that UB never used calculus, or tried to;
did he even have a class in it?
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"Give jihad a chance in The Sudan, Rhodesia, and
other former colonial moments -- Yahoo!TM;
you're going to feel my computerized draft,
boys'n'girls: NO AMERICAN MIDDLESCHOOLER LEFT BEHIND;
NO RHODESIA SCHOLARS IN HARM'S WAY!"
http://larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3526lar_soros_pamph.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526save_nations_parasites.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526zim_brit_op.html
spudnik
to be the max phenomenal speeed. in deed,
what would possibly require such a quality, since
we are well into the era when light was found,
not to be instaantaneously transmitted, viz Ole Roemer?
of course, the current version of peri-light transit doesn't make
for much of a "Wow, my Bad Twin; you're really been living fast!"
... by the time he got back from the nearest "type F planet,"
you'd both be dead.
not even quantum teleportation is FTL, putting aside
for the moment the problem of EinsteinPodolskyRosen,
which is probably just another matter, although experimentally
invalidated!
why is this phenomenon so difficult for you to reconcile,
mister Plato Been Gone a Long Time, Now?
thus:
there aren't even any photons, other than as
a way of looking at Einstein's photoelectrical effect (see:
the "photons" "dysappear" into the apparatus, or
similarly into the "lightcones" of the eyeball);
there is no neccesity of making the quantum of light
to be a "point," or in any way localized. so,
superstringtheory at least gets rid of that point,
from the get-go & without further a-do, even if
it's not just a string, a "one-dimensional object" ...
howsoever it is that matter bends space,
as measured by Gauss for the government of France
in the 19th cce, and experimentally adduced
by the classical Greek geometers, light travels
hrough this bent medium, which apparently also
alters the shape of it -- no timespace utterances needed,
it's so very, blatantly bended-up!
Roswell is a big double-entendre from WW2, but you could see that
someone who embraces it could go no further. that is really the gist
of the "Lt.Col. Corso School" of Roswellology, that
virtually *all* of 20th cce science & technology
[http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/]
came out of Corso's dyspersal of the pile of crap
that fell out of the sky, there, to the big corporations.
that is to say,
humans are incapable of generating ideas!
Koobee Wublee
> Hey fuckhead!
>
> Sagnac is not zero.
> What does you magic aether say about that?
So, the nitwit Androcles cannot accept electromagnetism. <shrug>
Sagnac effect exhibits no anomalies. <shrug>
An effect that results in no anomalies does not refute the Aether. Do
you not understand the very basic logic here?
The Aether is predicted by the electromagnetism. Without the Aether,
electromagnetism cannot manifest the laws as described. This is
despite the Einstein Dingleberries claiming otherwise to support
Poincare’s conjecture in the non-existence of the Aether on the
nonsensical but elegant Lorentz transform.
The principle of relativity works with SR but not with
electromagnetism. Do you accept electromagnetism? If yes, shut the
f*ck up. Electromagnetism does not allow any ballistic theory of
light. If no, then ok. Do you have a better model to describe
electromagnetism? If not, that does not mean you are wrong, but you
have no right to challenge and deny the Aether. <shrug>
Androcles
On Jul 14, 1:54 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
> Hey fuckhead!
>
> Sagnac is not zero.
> What does you magic aether say about that?
So, the nitwit Androcles cannot accept electromagnetism. <shrug>
========================================
The fuckhead Wublee cannot accept ring laser gyroscopes
or explain how they work with his stupid aether, attempts to
squirm away from the subject.
{Rant deleted}
Squirm, you cocksucker, squirm.
Ian Parker
>
> The Aether is predicted by the electromagnetism. Without the Aether,
> electromagnetism cannot manifest the laws as described. This is
> despite the Einstein Dingleberries claiming otherwise to support
> Poincare’s conjecture in the non-existence of the Aether on the
> nonsensical but elegant Lorentz transform.
>
with. Maxwell had a very mechanistic view of aether. Do you need an
aether with SR? You don't, in fact in SR you have a mathematical
description. If you have an aether you are favoring one frame or
reference over another.
> The principle of relativity works with SR but not with
> electromagnetism.
On the contrary electromagnetism is fully consistent with SR without
modification. The equation that had to be made consistent was in fact
Schroedinger's equation. This was made consistent by the Dirac
equation, the positron etc. etc.
>Do you accept electromagnetism? If yes, shut the
> f*ck up. Electromagnetism does not allow any ballistic theory of
> light.
You seem here to be arguing against a quantum mechanical view of
light. Electromagnetic theory is quantized, just as dynamics is
quantized.
>If no, then ok. Do you have a better model to describe
> electromagnetism? If not, that does not mean you are wrong, but you
> have no right to challenge and deny the Aether. <shrug>
It amazes me how little substance there really is in all of this. I
would have thought the CIA and the Black Sun would have done better.
Still no one speaks Arabic - viz Iraq. It is perhaps not surprising
that no one speaks Physics either. As far as "ballistic theory" is
concerned, perhaps the title should have been the Plank hoax.
Why is it that the Germans never produced a bomb if they had all these
great ideas? Electromagnetic separation is a perfectly sound concept
for small quantities of material, it is afdter all the vprinciple on
which mass spectromets operate. Moreover it was important to get a
small quantity of absolutely pure 235. The precise mass, and hence
energy had to be determined.
I return to "probieren geht ueber studieren".
- Ian Parker
BTW - It is correct German to insert an "e" instead of an umlaut.
Koobee Wublee
> On 15 Jul, 07:07, Koobee Wublee < wrote:
> > The Aether is predicted by the electromagnetism. Without the Aether,
> > electromagnetism cannot manifest the laws as described. This is
> > despite the Einstein Dingleberries claiming otherwise to support
> > Poincare’s conjecture in the non-existence of the Aether on the
> > nonsensical but elegant Lorentz transform.
>
> A lot of scientists have mental visualisation which others dispense
> with.
So, what does that mean in simple American English?
> Maxwell had a very mechanistic view of aether.
What is a mechanistic view of the Aether?
> Do you need an aether with SR?
No, but you need the Aether with the Maxwell’s equations. <shrug>
> You don't, in fact in SR you have a mathematical
> description.
Despite, SR is nonsense because of the Lorentz transform that
manifests the twin’s paradox. <shrug>
> If you have an aether you are favoring one frame or
> reference over another.
Maybe. I’d rather leave this discussion down the road when it is more
appropriate for me to address this issue.
> > The principle of relativity works with SR but not with
> > electromagnetism.
>
> On the contrary electromagnetism is fully consistent with SR without
> modification.
This is not true in general. Just because Ampere’s law obeys the
principle of relativity with two current flows, magnetic effect in
general requires an absolute reference. <shrug>
> The equation that had to be made consistent was in fact
> Schroedinger's equation.
No, the set of the Maxwell equations is not Schroedinger’s equation.
> This was made consistent by the Dirac
> equation, the positron etc. etc.
No, again, the set of the Maxwell equations is not Dirac’s equation.
> >Do you accept electromagnetism? If yes, shut the
> > f*ck up. Electromagnetism does not allow any ballistic theory of
> > light.
>
> You seem here to be arguing against a quantum mechanical view of
> light. Electromagnetic theory is quantized, just as dynamics is
> quantized.
No, electromagnetism is not quantized. The equation (E = h f) does
not imply quantization to light. That is because you have denied the
Aether. In doing so, you cannot cope with the particle-like nature of
light. That is your problem. <shrug>
> >If no, then ok. Do you have a better model to describe
> > electromagnetism? If not, that does not mean you are wrong, but you
> > have no right to challenge and deny the Aether. <shrug>
>
> It amazes me how little substance there really is in all of this. I
> would have thought the CIA and the Black Sun would have done better.
> Still no one speaks Arabic - viz Iraq. It is perhaps not surprising
> that no one speaks Physics either. As far as "ballistic theory" is
> concerned, perhaps the title should have been the Plank hoax.
Here we go again. Black Sun, CIA, Arabic, Iraq, etc. What the heck
are you talking about?
> Why is it that the Germans never produced a bomb if they had all these
> great ideas?
One good explanation is that the war ended so soon. The constant
allied bombing does not help either.
> Electromagnetic separation is a perfectly sound concept
> for small quantities of material, it is afdter all the vprinciple on
> which mass spectromets operate.
It would take hundreds of years to produce enough quantity to produce
a bomb. That is why the Los Alamos guys decided to milk it at the
expense of the government. After all, the war was going so well,
there was really no need to rush it. After presented with Harteck’s
centrifuge, they were shocked. After all, they did not even know how
to handle the radioactive material unlike the Germans. A number of
the Los Alamos physicists succumbed to radiation including Von
Neumann.
> Moreover it was important to get a
> small quantity of absolutely pure 235. The precise mass, and hence
> energy had to be determined.
>
> I return to "probieren geht ueber studieren".
<shrug>
> BTW - It is correct German to insert an "e" instead of an umlaut.
Big deal. <shrug>
Eric Gisse
[...]
> No, but you need the Aether with the Maxwell’s equations. <shrug>
Why? There is no reference to any medium - material or otherwise - in
Maxwell's equations.
>
> > You don't, in fact in SR you have a mathematical
> > description.
>
> Despite, SR is nonsense because of the Lorentz transform that
> manifests the twin’s paradox. <shrug>
Lorentz transforms are only valid for constant velocity, and the
traveling twin accelerates when he turns around. Why can you not
understand this?
[snip]
Dr. Henri Wilson
wrote:
>Just one point about the actual value of c. It is
>
>299,792,458 m/s
>
>This is a DEFINITION. To me the interesting thing is that c is more
>accurate than the scratches on the bar in Paris.
'c' is a universal constant. It also appears to be the valie of light speed wrt
its source. (although this could be very slightly energy dependent).
The value of c can be accurately determined from any good TWLS experiment in a
vacuum.
OWLS is not necessarily equal to c. It can have any value.
>The other interesting
>fact is that means are now available to actually count at optical
>frequencies.
I don't think so. Slower beats are counted.
>This is to me remarkable.
>
>
> - Ian Parker
Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
Koobee Wublee
> On Jul 15, 12:29 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> > No, but you need the Aether with the Maxwell’s equations. <shrug>
>
> Why? There is no reference to any medium - material or otherwise - in
> Maxwell's equations.
Go back to study more carefully about the Maxwell equations. <shrug>
> > Despite, SR is nonsense because of the Lorentz transform that
> > manifests the twin’s paradox. <shrug>
>
> Lorentz transforms are only valid for constant velocity, and the
> traveling twin accelerates when he turns around.
It is somewhat true but not entirely true. One must understand how
the Voigt transform is derived. <shrug>
Besides experimental results based on centrifuge do not support any
time dilation. As you must be aware of, centrifuge technology allows
you to get into thousands of g’s. So, proposing the acceleration as a
knight in shining armor to save the nonsense of the Lorentz transform
is rather hopeless. There is no mathematical basis to prove
definitively that acceleration does indeed resolve the twin’s
paradox. Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar was the
first to introduce this Hail-Mary-pass concept. It can be rendered
non-influential to the twin’s paradox using the scenario where each
twin does travel that shares the same acceleration profile. The
mission control merely has to allow the twins to coast for a while
after achieving desired relative speed between them. The identical
acceleration profile should nullify the ridiculous claim by Einstein
that acceleration breaks the symmetry. <shrug>
> Why can you not understand this?
Yes, I do understand it very perfectly. You as a multi-year super-
senior is the one who has a lot of trouble understanding that trivial
concept. <shrug>
Sue...
> On Jul 15, 12:29 pm, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > No, but you need the Aether with the Maxwell’s equations. <shrug>
>
> Why? There is no reference to any medium - material or otherwise - in
> Maxwell's equations.
<< in Eq. (546), the first term on the right-hand side
corresponds to Coulomb's law, >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node52.html
Does Coulomb's law apply to one charge or a pair of charges?
Sue...
Ian Parker
In a centrifuge it is VELOCITY that counts. There is a time dilation
of √(1-v*v/c*c) but this is normally too small to measure. You need a
fairly large velocity and an atomiic clock. If you have an electron
going round in a magnetic filed (1GeV say) the electron sees a frame
of reference (at an instant) that obeys the Lorentz transformation see
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/55ba5dd57a73b923?hl=en
Did that clear things up? Of course not. To me a synchrotron
demonstates that a disc rotates paradox free. Still I expect the disc
paradox would come up in some form. I suggest everyone reads this.
Postings like the one above could not have made - or is there an
ulterior motive.
The time dilation of an electron is simply its energy (compared with
rest energy). Doppler effects again involve Lorentz Transformation. I
can assure everyone that intense beams of VUV/soft X rays are indeed
produced and all rotation is paradox free.
As I have said time after time there are ulterior movives. The CIA
were conned by ODESSA on antigravity. They don't want to have this
fact pointed out, nor do they want an investigation of the number of
ex Nazis that were taken in by the CIA.
McCarthy wittered on. He was quite happy with forces from Aldebaron
and got rid of Oppenheimer because he was not "Aldebaron khayyid". In
fact there were in the US at any time vastly more Nazis than
Communists. McCarthy never suggested a purge of these.
Promotion means that nazi influence persists. The CIA virtually
ordered the US Army to search for WMD it knew did not extist.
Meanwhile a horrendous ethnic cleansing started.
- Ian Parker
spudnik
you can look that up on larouchepub.com; I forgot. the real tragedy,
abundantly documented alsothereat, was Truman's going over MacArthur
*and*
Eisenhower's heads, to begin the nuclear age with an act of terrorism
(although
the firebombings were numerically worse).
"no aether" is just an interpretation, plainly acknowledged by AE --
somebody on one of these fora recently quoted him on that.
if you don't comprehend the proportionality of matter with energy,
via c, you really have no gripe with the twin "paradox" ...
what if you were there triplet deployed at 120-degree trajectory,
away from them?
> Why? There is no reference to any medium - material or otherwise - in
> Maxwell's equations.
> Lorentz transforms are only valid for constant velocity, and the
> traveling twin accelerates when he turns around. Why can you not
> understand this?
thus:
really; line-of-sight is not the quickest path,
nor the least-energy path. if you're ever going
to find out what the shape of the box is (then,
whether ye be in or out of it), you're going to have
to at least "look up" the problem of the tautachrone,
which is the same as the brachistoschrone,
which is how Leibniz popularized his calculus
(solved by Bernoulli, as well). but, please,
don't googolplex it, or you'll never get it!
a related, though maybe "ill-posed" problem, is,
waht is the slowest path?
the brachistochrone (for light-considered-as-a-particle,
AKA geometric optics or ray-tracing) is just an application
of Fermat's least-time principle for light, or rather,
Snell's extension of it to refraction.
> No. The shortest distance may be a straight line, but
> it's not always the most energy efficient. Remember,
thus:
where is *what* ice, there?
newsflash, icebergs calve off of icesheets, either because a)
the icesheet is "collapsing," or b)
precipitation is greater. c)
both of the above in some spots (the part of Antarctica
that sticks-out into the weather e.g.:
the Larsen-B iceshelf broke off, and
"the sky is glowing -- help!")
I read that there are about 4x more polar bears, now,
than there were a few decades ago, presumably because
they like garbage as much as most other bears --
those feelthee Eskimos!
> when all will seem strange and we will wonder where the ice is.
> Why are not we able to connect the environmental dots?
thus:
yes, well, the daily rotation isn't a rational subdivisor,
apparently, of the yearly revolution (at least,
not a direct, "linear" relationship to be seen -- and
why should there be?).
the daylength can always be defined as 24 hours,
regardless of the varying speed of rotation;
Verdi's classical tuning is middle C = 256 cycles per second;
A = 440Hz was established by the Nazis,
at a concert in London, 'cause "it's more brilliant
for the times!"
thus:
garbage, unless you consider the Alain Aspect version
of Schroedinger's undead cat (Erwin's little gedanken joke) viz-a-vu
the EPR paradox,
which is just an interpretation (that is,
the Copenhagen Schoolers' mystical write-up of this experiment;
the cat has been dead for a hundred years, so that
you probably wouldn't be able to find the putrid remains
of *that* particular ****, including the still-damp litter).
what possible phenomenon requires speeds over light,
other than scifi authorships?
> signalling, you should be able to entangle particles to produce
> instantaneous travel.
thus:
his statement could refer to raw coal rocks; I'm sure that
there is a tremendous variation in the darkness of seams
of coal!
> compare the number of stars you can see on a clear moonless night to
> the number of stars you can see on a night when there's a full moon.
thus:
conjuring scifi is silly; it has always been a haven
of supersillyousness or outright spookery, as per "flatland"
by the ridiculous A.A.Skwared, 4D BS from the British Pyschol.Society
etc., and
the latterday mongering of timespace -- the arbitrary spacialization
of time by means of a diagram, which is supposed to be an *aid*
to comprehension of phasespace, not a "reified" ideal of itself,
per Minkowski's youthful exhuberance. (y'know,
Minkowski's stuff is really mathematically worthwhile,
otherwise ... "no, please, don't, stop -- mathematics ?!?!")
*a priori* assumptions of megalithic structures on Venus,
like Hoagland's Balls on Mars foolishness,
really requires an actual program o'space to investigate, since
nature is capable of quite awesome geometries (or
'hype-D physiques,' or it's all ultimately geometry, anyway,
somehow, a la Plato or Bucky Fullerofit); however,
that was shotdown with Kennedy & Nixon:
just as with our nuclear energy, we are still using '50s technology
from the planet Marduk (per ScientologyTM .-)
> > You can consider them "multidimensional" beings who exist through time
> the clearly intelligent infrastructure that can be seen as rational
> and existing/coexisting on Venus?
thus:
that which causes the matter of "time slowing"
in acceleration, is really the same as matter being energy,
somehow, via their proportionality with c,
the speed of light; that's incredibly obvious, although
I know of no school of quantum, that says,
how many quants of light make a proton e.g. (and,
since the "photons" come in all sizes, it's moot .-)
in any case, this is one of the properties of light
that was experimentally verified in the 19th cce, although
it is carachteristically never even mentioned,
in favor of one of the EinsteinHubbleGodot paradoxi/
doctrines of the Department of Einsteinmania/
the Musical Department!
thus:
superstringtheory at least gets rid of that point,
from the get-go & without further a-do, even if
it's not just a string, a "one-dimensional object" ...
howsoever it is that matter bends space,
as measured by Gauss for the government of France
in the 19th cce, and experimentally adduced
by the classical Greek geometers, light travels
through this bent medium, which apparently also
alters the shape of it -- no timespace utterances needed,
it's so very, blatantly bended-up!
Roswell is a big double-entendre from WW2, but you could see that
those who embrace it could go no further. that is really the gist
of the "Lt.Col. Corso School" of Roswellology, that
virtually *all* of 20th cce science & technology
[http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/]
came out of Corso's very own dyspersal of the pile of crap
that fell out of the sky, there, to "some big corporations;"
mayhap, he also wrote the first press-release -- too bad,
he had to wait til he was at death's door, to reap the deal
for the book.
that is to say,
humans are incapable of generating ideas ... or,
it just applies to Americans!
> > > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
--Seargent Barracks Soros McCheeny Pepper,
"Give jihad a chance in The Sudan, Rhodesia, and
other former colonial moments -- Yahoo!TM;
you're going to feel my computerized draft,
boys'n'girls: NO AMERICAN MIDDLESCHOOLER LEFT BEHIND;
NO RHODESIA SCHOLARS IN HARM'S WAY!"
http://larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3526lar_soros_pamph.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526save_nations_parasites.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526zim_brit_op.html
> incorrect value and the reasoning behind it even though our
> civilisation achieved the core principles of 24 hours/360 degrees many
> centuries ago and we use those principles day in and day out,then we
> no longer deserve the title of 'civilisation' regardless oif how
> advanced our technological achievements are.
thus:
garbage, unless you consider the Alain Aspect version
of Schroedinger's undead cat (Erwin's little gedanken joke) viz-a-vu
the EPR paradox,
which is just an interpretation (that is,
the Copenhagen Schoolers' mystical write-up of this experiment;
the cat has been dead for a hundred years, so that
you probably wouldn't be able to find the putrid remains
of *that* particular ****, including the extremely damp litter).
what possible phenomenon requires speeds over light,
other than scifi authorships?
> How does that work?
>
> Well if you entangle photons in a weird way to produce instantaneous
> signalling, you should be able to entangle particles to produce
> instantaneous travel.
thus:
excellent quantifications; "BG" will never reply to it, I guess,
although
his statement could refer to raw coal rocks; I'm sure, though, that
there is a tremendous variation in the darkness of seams
of coal!
> For anyone who believes the moon is too dark to wash out stars -
> compare the number of stars you can see on a clear moonless night to
> the number of stars you can see on a night when there's a full moon.
thus:
conjuring scifi is silly; it has always been a haven
of supersillyousness or outright spookery, as per "flatland"
by the ridiculous A.A.Skwared, 4D BS from the British Pyschol.Society
etc., and
the latterday mongering of timespace -- the arbitrary spacialization
of time by means of a diagram, which is supposed to be an *aid*
to comprehension of phasespace, not a "reified" ideal of itself,
per Minkowski's youthful exhuberance. (y'know,
Minkowski's stuff is really mathematically worthwhile,
otherwise ... "no, please, don't, stop -- mathematics ?!?!")
*a priori* assumptions of megalithic structures on Venus,
like Hoagland's Balls on Mars foolishness,
really requires an actual program o'space to investigate, since
nature is capable of quite awesome geometries (or
'hype-D physiques'); however, that was shotdown with Kennedy & Nixon:
just as with our nuclear energy, we are still using '50s technology
from the planet Marduk (per ScientologyTM .-)
> > You can consider them "multidimensional" beings who exist through time
> the clearly intelligent infrastructure that can be seen as rational
> and existing/coexisting on Venus?
thus:
that which causes the matter of "time slowing"
in acceleration, is really the same as matter being energy,
somehow, via their proportionality with c,
the speed of light; that's incredibly obvious, although
I know of no school of quantum, that says,
how many quants of light make a proton e.g. (and,
since the "photons" come in all sizes, it's moot .-)
in any case, this is one of the properties of light
that was experimentally verified in the 19th cce, although
it is carachteristically never even mentioned,
in favor of one of the EinsteinHubbleGodot paradoxi/
doctrines of the Department of Einsteinmania/
the Musical Department!
thus:
superstringtheory at least gets rid of that point,
from the get-go & without further a-do, even if
it's not just a string, a "one-dimensional object" ...
howsoever it is that matter bends space,
as measured by Gauss for the government of France
in the 19th cce, and experimentally adduced
by the classical Greek geometers, light travels
through this bent medium, which apparently also
alters the shape of it -- no timespace utterances needed,
it's so very, blatantly bended-up!
Roswell is a big double-entendre from WW2, but you could see that
those who embrace it could go no further. that is really the gist
of the "Lt.Col. Corso School" of Roswellology, that
virtually *all* of 20th cce science & technology
[http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/]
came out of Corso's very own dyspersal of the pile of crap
that fell out of the sky, there, to "some big corporations;"
mayhap, he also wrote the first press-release -- too bad,
he had to wait til he was at death's door, to reap the deal
for the book.
that is to say,
humans are incapable of generating ideas ... or,
it just applies to Americans!
> > > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was
--Seargent Barracks Soros McCheeny Pepper,
spudnik
same
as a Doppler shift, whereas the main effect of greater redshift
with distance could simply be tied to the effects of "vacuum;"
it's only relative!
the anamolous associations of the quasars have been amply documented
by the late Halton Arp, who was progressively denied access
to time on the scopes, because of his seeming sacrilege. so, if
the quasars are not as far away as a redshift-is-all-Dopplergangs,
then they are not quite as powerful as calculated. anyway,
I believe that one of the main interpretations is that
quasars are associated with the births of new galaxies
from older ones, or some thing, or it's meitotic, or what ever.
as for the "cosmic background radiation," I just read a snippet
in *Harper's* that coincides with what I thought,
that I'd read some when way back:
"....Geneticists calculated taht humans nearly died out
70,000 years ago. Cosmologists postulated that
the universe began not with a bang, but a splat, and
suggested that the solar system may be saturated
within a billion-light-year-wide bubble of low density, surrounded
by a shell of high density, which would create, for observers
on Earth, the illusion that the universe's expansion is accelerating.
Geologists remain uncertain why the Earth hums."
("Findings," July 2008) or,
what I was originally thinking, is that COBE really saw what
could not be known to be not just a local effect, anyway;
the 2.7K is associatedd with what spectrum?
anyway, "photons" are also created by antimatter;
they are not "antiphotons" that anhialate the good vibrations
o'light!
> consists of a black hole which is actively moving matter and a galaxy.
> Spectra have been taken of these objects so we know their red shift.
> The distances are certainly cosmological. If they are NOT far away
> what is the alternative explanation for red shift?
>
> "All the photons being generated by matter". I don't know what you
> mean. Photons must have a reason for their existence. Are you
> referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the
> Universe became transparant.
thus: