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Demon Mark W. Phelps: It started with not honoring his dad, whom he had judged.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 4, 2006, 11:58:22 AM12/4/06
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http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm

*** Begin letter ***

"Many people have been asking me, over the past several weeks, about my
father. They want to know what I think about him and 'What is he really
like?' People's interest in what I think baffles me, but after careful
consideration, I decided to respond.

What is he like? Well, it's been 19 years since I left home, but his
behavior still appears to be the same. He considers his environment to
be against him without admitting, acknowledging or taking
responsibility for how he contributes to that. He likes to show himself
as being moral, pro-family, pro-Bible, but his actions just don't add
up to that. I believe in God and the Bible, and my father's behavior
doesn't fit the description of behavior that would show in the life of
one who loves God; behavior characteristics such as Love, Joy, Peace,
Longsuffering, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness,
Self-control. Instead, my father's behavior characterizes, I believe,
Hate, Outbursts of Wrath, Contention, Jealousy, Vengefulness, Misery,
Harshness, and Selfish ambition. He mis-states the truth about his own
behavior, about others, about the Bible, with apparent ease and
regularity. He behaves with a viciousness the likes of which I have
never seen. He accepts no genuine accountability in his life and is
subject to no one. His lifestyle betrays the sacred trust of
what a pastor, husband, father and grandfather should be. I suppose if
a comparison were made between the life of Jesus Christ and my father,
there would not be much to compare.

I also realize that my father is a very unstable person who is
determined to hurt people. And because he is so bound to be hateful and
hurtful, and because he's so untrustworthy, I believe it's a good idea
to respond to him with caution much like the caution used when dealing
with a rattlesnake or a mad dog. You see, the causes that he crusades
for, including the Bible, are not the issue here. He simply wants to
hate and to have a forum for his hate. If the causes he focuses on were
the issue, that is, if they really meant something to him in his heart
and he meant for the things he does to be for the good, his behavior
would not be what it is. He would not betray his message with his
behavior. But, when he needs to, to vent his hate, he readily goes
outside the bounds of any previously stated 'value' or 'cause' he may
have supported. He experiences no moral dilemma when it comes to doing
what he wants to do. If it weren't the homosexuals, it would be
something else.

Yet checks and balances on his behavior are appropriate, on the part of
the community, in order to at least confine his destructive behaviors
and to limit his influence. I believe that Topekans are making a good
effort to try and stop him and should continue to do so. He can seem
very intimidating. He can use foul language and come across with a
booming voice to the community, but the truth is, like the Wizard of
Oz, when Toto pulls the curtain back, instead of this big powerful
individual, it's only a small, pathetic old man.

I feel sorry for my father as I would for anyone who displays this kind
of hate and evil viciousness. These can only be the manifestations of
tortured, injured and agonizing souls." -- Mark W. Phelps

*** End letter ***

It saddens me to read this.

Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
peace.

Laus Deo ! !

May GOD continue to heal the hearts of his mom and dad and other family
and friends with HIS living water so that they can love others a little
bit more and GOD a lot more, in Jesus' most precious and holy name.

Amen.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Conspiracy of Doves

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Dec 4, 2006, 1:23:09 PM12/4/06
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Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
evil.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 4, 2006, 1:30:45 PM12/4/06
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:
> Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
> evil.

Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who did in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><

Cary Kittrell

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Dec 4, 2006, 1:52:45 PM12/4/06
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...still waiting for you to enlighten us all as to how Sigmund
could have gnashed his teeth while lacking a lower jaw...

-- cary


Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Dec 4, 2006, 2:02:03 PM12/4/06
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Nasty psychobot B'Chung, Klingon master of wretched axcuses wrote:

> Conspiracy of Doves wrote:
>
> > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
> > evil.
>
> Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly.

It's a pity it doesn't bother you enough to face up to it.

Conspiracy of Doves

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Dec 4, 2006, 2:26:29 PM12/4/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Conspiracy of Doves wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > It saddens me to read this.
> > >
> > > Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
> > >
> >
> > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
> > evil.
>
> Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
> iniquities.
>

What truth? The truth is that Fred Phelps is a hateful, petty, sad,
latently homosexual (although we don't hold that against him, only how
he deals with it) maniac, and you are deluded enough to consider him a
good and honorable man. His son Mark was intelligent enough to see Fred
for what he was and managed to escape that horrible little family, and
you consider him evil for it. You condemn him for not honoring his
father. Fred Phelps is not worthy of anyone's honor. He is a disgrace
to the human species. You despise Mark Phelps for his intelligence and
compassion: positive human qualities (contrary to what you believe)
that he developed in spite of his father's influence.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 4, 2006, 3:01:04 PM12/4/06
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Conspiracy of Doves wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm
> >
> > > > It saddens me to read this.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

> > > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
> > > evil.
> >
> > Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
> > iniquities.
>
> What truth?

Your question reminds me of that which Governor Pontius Pilate asked of
LORD Jesus Christ.

Here is HIS answer:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !!! Laus Deo !!!!! Marana tha !!!!!!!

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose

to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in

Chris Johnson

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Dec 4, 2006, 3:01:07 PM12/4/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate your supposed love for us and
stop trolling Usenet, thus allowing us to have the pleasure of
forgiving all your iniquities.

You are contemptible with your feigned piety and love. It is abundantly
clear that you care nothing for others; your refusal to accept polite
requests to desist shows that your evangelizing is for your own
benefit, not those you profess to love. You are a sanctimonious
hypocrite, and if I weren't sure that you entirely lack human emotion,
I would say you should be ashamed of yourself.

P.S.
sci.med.cardiology readers, sorry about the crosspost. I would have
sent this to one of the Christian groups instead, but I only know Chung
crossposts there, not that he reads there.

Cary Kittrell

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Dec 4, 2006, 3:21:39 PM12/4/06
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Why? Do you find Fred Phelps to be an admirable Christian?
Do you think his actions bear witness to the message of Christ?


-- cary

Cary Kittrell

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Dec 4, 2006, 3:29:45 PM12/4/06
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Chapter and verse, please, in which Jesus said that in response
to Pilate's question.

Please put your Scriptural reference here ---->

-- cary

mark...@yahoo.com

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Dec 4, 2006, 4:36:28 PM12/4/06
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That is your answer. You have absolutely zero evidence that your god
exists or that your jesus had any supernatural characteristics.
Demonstrate that your bible is anything more than a book of ancient
mythology and we will stop looking on you with contempt and pity. Until
then, you are no different from someone who worships the gods of
ancient Greece or Egypt.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 4, 2006, 7:02:50 PM12/4/06
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Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind.

What you see that is in common between your dad and me is the love that
we both have for GOD.

Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not demons) that is of this
world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

You clearly have become satan's minion:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

In the Holy Spirit, I know you used to be Mark W. Phelps:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.marriage/msg/c7c2e04ebcdbf3f5?

Art Deco

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Dec 4, 2006, 7:56:03 PM12/4/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

[screed flushed]

>*** End letter ***
>
>It saddens me to read this.
>
>Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>
>When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>peace.

You're an asshole, Chunk.

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Art Deco

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<mark...@yahoo.com> wrote:

It is a quotation from the NCV* translation.

*(New Chunk Version)

Art Deco

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Dec 4, 2006, 8:00:30 PM12/4/06
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<"mwph...@gmail.com"> wrote:

[screed snippage]

>> tortured, injured and agonizing souls." -- Mark W. Phelps
>>
>> *** End letter ***
>>
>> It saddens me to read this.
>

>It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind.
>
>>

>> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>

>God be praised for compelling Andrew to conclusively prove that he has
>no connection with the Holy Spirit. I did not write the words which
>Andrew quoted. My dad's name isn't Fred; I don't even have a "Fred" in
>my family.

As I suspected when I first saw that diatribe.
>
>The benefit in Andrew's failure here is that it clearly demonstrates two
>things: how desperate he is, and how disconnected from God he is. May
>the readers be encouraged to avoid the path of blasphemy which Andrew
>has chosen. Andrew is reaping what he sowed when he utterly rejected
>God by blaspheming the Holy Spirit.


>
>>
>> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>> peace.
>

>And here I thought Andrew was calling down fire upon me. He was calling
>it down upon Mark W. Phelps all along.

Chunk's deep down desire is to be relevant, somehow.

Art Deco

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Dec 4, 2006, 8:01:55 PM12/4/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> > I feel sorry for my father as I would for anyone who displays this kind
>> > of hate and evil viciousness. These can only be the manifestations of
>> > tortured, injured and agonizing souls." -- Mark W. Phelps
>> >
>> > *** End letter ***
>> >
>> > It saddens me to read this.
>>
>> It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind.
>
>What you see that is in common between your dad and me is the love that
>we both have for GOD.

Still sticking to your lies, Chunk? What a surprise.

Still running away from those tough words? What a surprise.

Art Deco

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Dec 4, 2006, 8:09:53 PM12/4/06
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister <use...@heathens.org.uk>
wrote:

He just tries to paper over his lunacy with pseudo-Christian screed.

Cary Kittrell

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Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
he quoted that letter?

Isn't that just the most interesting thing?...


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Andrew's tailspin continues. My dad's name is not Fred; and the only
> love Fred Phelps has is for himself. This is a flaw which Andrew shares
> with Fred Phelps.

>From your judgment of your dad, it is understandable why you have
rejected him.

>From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his
heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the
brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD.

Your having 12 other siblings with only 3 others estranged from him
like you would indicate that you are untruthful about your dad having
love only for himself. If this were true, he would have 13 estranged
children along with an estranged wife.

> > Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul,
> > mind, and strength:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> >
> > Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not demons) that is of this
> > world:
> >
> > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> >
> > You clearly have become satan's minion:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >
> > In the Holy Spirit, I know you used to be Mark W. Phelps:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.marriage/msg/c7c2e04ebcdbf3f5?
>

> Praise God for compelling Andrew to reveal that he thinks Google is the
> Holy Spirit.

Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit continues.

> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction
> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that
> conviction.

The purpose of the holy fires being called down from heaven is to
lovingly put you out of your misery and to protect others from you.
Just as GOD allowed satan to speak his mind (Book of Job), so HE has
and will continue to allow you to do the same for now. It remains HIS
infinite will that souls retain HIS generous gift of free will.

> Make no mistake: the Holy Spirit does not need me in order
> to convict Andrew of his sin.

Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you.

As for my sins:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

> Andrew's desperation will continue with
> or without me, because I am not the source of his conviction.

You are projecting again:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

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Mark K. Bilbo

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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:58:22 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> It saddens me to read this.
>
> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>
> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
> peace.
>
> Laus Deo ! !
>
> May GOD continue to heal the hearts of his mom and dad and other family
> and friends with HIS living water so that they can love others a little
> bit more and GOD a lot more, in Jesus' most precious and holy name.

Oh my fucking not god you're defending Fred Phelps?

Before, you were just nuts. Now you've gone flat out to evil...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about
a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of
comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is
aware that they are myths and that he believes them only
because they are comforting. But he dare not face this
thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his
opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are
disputed." -Bertrand Russell

Mark K. Bilbo

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The truth is, Fred Phelps is an evil man. Your choice to defend evil means
you are evil.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Mark K. Bilbo

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Fred Phelps is an evil man. Your choice to defend evil means you are evil.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

Mark K. Bilbo

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You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
person?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini

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Art Deco

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<"mwph...@gmail.com"> wrote:

>Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>>
>>> In article <041220061756034942%er...@netcabal.com> Art Deco
>>> <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [screed flushed]
>>>>
>>>>> *** End letter ***
>>>>>
>>>>> It saddens me to read this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>>>>>
>>>>> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>>>>> peace.
>>>> You're an asshole, Chunk.
>>> Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
>>> he quoted that letter?

This was likely his awesome Google searching abilities, paired with his
infinite capacity for self delusion.


>>
>> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
>> person?
>

>That's what he thinks. And he's wrong.

He's an idiot, as well as a liar. I've also noticed that the coward no
longer replies to me.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> I haven't rejected my dad.

You have rejected your biological dad.

> >
> >>From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his
> >> heart, soul, mind, and strength.
>

> My dad has no sermons.

Your biological dad does.

> >
> > Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the
> > brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD.
> >
> > Your having 12 other siblings with only 3 others estranged from him
> > like you would indicate that you are untruthful about your dad having
> > love only for himself. If this were true, he would have 13 estranged
> > children along with an estranged wife.
>

> I do not have 12 siblings.

You have 12 biological siblings.

> >>> Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul,
> >>> mind, and strength:
> >>>
> >>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> >>>
> >>> Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not demons) that is of this
> >>> world:
> >>>
> >>> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> >>>
> >>> You clearly have become satan's minion:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >>>
> >>> In the Holy Spirit, I know you used to be Mark W. Phelps:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.marriage/msg/c7c2e04ebcdbf3f5?
> >>
> >> Praise God for compelling Andrew to reveal that he thinks Google is the
> >> Holy Spirit.
> >
> > Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit continues.
>

> Praise God for compelling Andrew to speak these words to himself.

Actually, I have written them to you.

> >> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction
> >> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that
> >> conviction.
> >
> > The purpose of the holy fires being called down from heaven is to
> > lovingly put you out of your misery and to protect others from you.
> > Just as GOD allowed satan to speak his mind (Book of Job), so HE has
> > and will continue to allow you to do the same for now. It remains HIS
> > infinite will that souls retain HIS generous gift of free will.
> >

> >> Make no mistake: **the Holy Spirit does not need me** in order

**emphasis** added.

> >> to convict Andrew of his sin.
> >
> > Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you.
>

> Andrew's false testimony against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.

"the Holy Spirit does not need me" are your words. See **emphasis**
above.

> > As for my sins:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
> >
> >> Andrew's desperation will continue with
> >> or without me, because I am not the source of his conviction.
> >
> > You are projecting again:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>

> Andrew, lost as he is, cannot help but resort to fleshly tactics such as
> psychobabble.

Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Pastor Kutchie

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Look in the fucking mirror.

Pastor Kutchie

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mwph...@gmail.com wrote:

> It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind.
>

To coin a phrase: "Amen and amen!".

Mark K. Bilbo

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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:34:48 +0000, mwph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>>
>>> In article <041220061756034942%er...@netcabal.com> Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [screed flushed]
>>>>
>>>>> *** End letter ***
>>>>>
>>>>> It saddens me to read this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>>>>>
>>>>> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>>>>> peace.
>>>> You're an asshole, Chunk.
>>> Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
>>> he quoted that letter?
>>
>> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
>> person?
>

> That's what he thinks. And he's wrong.

Well, to be fair, he is insane...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned
for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it
fits its hole"
-Douglas Adams

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 5, 2006, 8:11:28 AM12/5/06
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Pastor Kutchie wrote:

You are the pastor and not I.

Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
of intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ made to
our heavenly Father lifting up those who have been convicted by the
Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love others a
little bit more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor Kutchie
whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Bob (this one)

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Dec 5, 2006, 8:54:28 AM12/5/06
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People join the American military - sign on as government
employees - to protect and defend this country. And, too
often, this is the story

Where the hell is their employer? Where the hell is
congress? Where the hell is Bush?

Do what you can...

<http://operationhomefront.net/index.asp>

Pastorio
(I thought I'd pick up one of these crossposts and put it to
good use.)

Bob (this one)

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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>
>> Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [screed flushed]
>>>
>>>> *** End letter ***
>>>>
>>>> It saddens me to read this.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>>>>
>>>> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>>>> peace.
>>> You're an asshole, Chunk.
>> Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
>> he quoted that letter?
>
> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
> person?

He doesn't *think* so. He *knows* so because of his, um,
"gift" of, er, discernment.

Pastorio

William Wagner

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:26:40 AM12/5/06
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In article <12naupu...@corp.supernews.com>,

Another way to help.

http://www.homesforourtroops.org/site/PageServer

Bill

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and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

Cary Kittrell

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:58:49 AM12/5/06
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In article <zsGdnVKh6fSkSenY...@giganews.com> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> writes:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>
> > In article <041220061756034942%er...@netcabal.com> Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> [screed flushed]
> >>
> >> >*** End letter ***
> >> >
> >> >It saddens me to read this.
> >> >
> >> >Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
> >> >
> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >> >
> >> >When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
> >> >peace.
> >>
> >> You're an asshole, Chunk.
> >
> > Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
> > he quoted that letter?
>
> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
> person?


Heh heh heh...isn't this fascinating? In a decade and a half
of reading Usenet, I cannot recall ever seeing anyone stick
his foot this far into it.


-- cary


Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 5, 2006, 11:55:00 AM12/5/06
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<SNIP>

MARK PHELPS, SON OF FRED PHELPS, DOES NOT POST HERE YOU IDIOT.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to
believe in him, then he should know what would prove his
existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason
to believe in him.
-Woden

Cary Kittrell

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In article <1165296035.9...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> writes:
> Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:


{...}

>
> > >> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction
> > >> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that
> > >> conviction.
> > >
> > > The purpose of the holy fires being called down from heaven is to
> > > lovingly put you out of your misery and to protect others from you.
> > > Just as GOD allowed satan to speak his mind (Book of Job), so HE has
> > > and will continue to allow you to do the same for now. It remains HIS
> > > infinite will that souls retain HIS generous gift of free will.
> > >
> > >> Make no mistake: **the Holy Spirit does not need me** in order
>
> **emphasis** added.
>
> > >> to convict Andrew of his sin.
> > >
> > > Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you.
> >
> > Andrew's false testimony against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
>
> "the Holy Spirit does not need me" are your words. See **emphasis**
> above.

Actually, what the world can see is desperately dishonest mis-editing,
since Mark's actual words were:

Make no mistake: the Holy Spirit does not need me in order to


convict Andrew of his sin.


but you maliciously snipped to try to put an entirely
different and misleading meaning into his mouth.


-- cary

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Cary Kittrell

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Eh? Speak up sonny, my tinitus is giving me fits today.


-- cary


truth

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As he shouldn't this is a Christian NG isn't it.

Mark K. Bilbo

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WHA'D YOU SAY???

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
- Seneca the Younger

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 5, 2006, 2:33:17 PM12/5/06
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Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote::
> > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote::
> Andrew is deluded.

In this continued ever closer walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me
completely well.

> I just spoke with my biological dad this morning.

Glad to read this.

> We expressed our love and affection for one another.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to reconcile with your biological dad and to renounce your earlier
false witness that he loved only himself.

If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's
time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your
choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 5, 2006, 2:54:35 PM12/5/06
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Per article <1165347197.2...@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>
posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> Christ Jesus, HE keeps me


And somehow you broke off your leash and
now UseNet must suffer from your yapping.

--
Cm~

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 5, 2006, 5:59:29 PM12/5/06
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> Typical of the deluded to think that they are completely well.

Typical of satan-worshippers to believe that the brethren of LORD Jesus
Christ are delusional.

> > > I just spoke with my biological dad this morning.
> >
> > Glad to read this.
> >
> > > We expressed our love and affection for one another.
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> > to reconcile with your biological dad and to renounce your earlier
> > false witness that he loved only himself.
>

> Andrew remains deluded.

See above.

> My biological dad and I were never at odds.

That is not what I discern.

> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad.

>From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you
would reject your biological dad entirely.

> That Andrew continues to
> propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair.
> Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation.

You are projecting.

> > If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's
> > time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your
> > choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>

> Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.

Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will
> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life.

Again, you are projecting:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

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Mark K. Bilbo

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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:43:43 -0800, mwphelps wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:34:48 +0000, mwph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <041220061756034942%er...@netcabal.com> Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
>> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [screed flushed]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> *** End letter ***
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It saddens me to read this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>> >>>>> peace.
>> >>>> You're an asshole, Chunk.
>> >>> Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
>> >>> he quoted that letter?
>> >>
>> >> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
>> >> person?
>> >
>> > That's what he thinks. And he's wrong.
>>
>> Well, to be fair, he is insane...
>

> The evidence certainly points in that direction....

And that big, flashing sign, "Warning! Net Kook!" seems to be indicating
something...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

Art Deco

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Dec 5, 2006, 9:02:42 PM12/5/06
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Cary Kittrell <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

Hahahahahahahahahaha, this is excellent. Chunk has managed to paint
himself into a corner with no escape. Because he claimed the Spirit of
God told him that "mwphelps" is the son of the frothing loonie Fred
Phelps of Topeka, KS, Chunk cannot concede that he is dead wrong with
another one of his kooky assertions; if he did he would be admitting
that his "inspiration" is a bag of hot air. So he is forced to
continue repeating the lie over and over.

<makes nachos>

In the mean time, I'll go ahead and nominate Andy Chunk for the Bolo
Bullis Foam Duck.

Any seconds?

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:00:31 PM12/5/06
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Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> wrote in
news:051220061902429091%er...@netcabal.com:

Fuck yes. Seconded.

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Colonel of the Fanatic Legion. FL# 555-PLNTY Motto: ABUNDANCE!.
Supreme Holy Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Hail Petitmorte!
"....your harassment will probably endure until I get around to punishing
you into a legal and economic pulp, hence, I have no need to rush the
legal actions." - Ed explains why it's still February of 2002.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:12:14 PM12/5/06
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In article <051220061902429091%er...@netcabal.com>,

Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> wrote:
>Cary Kittrell <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>>In article <zsGdnVKh6fSkSenY...@giganews.com> "Mark K. Bilbo"
>><gm...@com.mkbilbo> writes:
>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:03:43 +0000, Cary Kittrell wrote:
>>>
>>> > In article <041220061756034942%er...@netcabal.com> Art Deco
>>> > <er...@netcabal.com> writes:
>>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> [screed flushed]
>>> >>
>>> >> >*** End letter ***
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It saddens me to read this.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have
>>> >> >peace.
>>> >>
>>> >> You're an asshole, Chunk.
>>> >
>>> > Did you notice that our Andrew had the wrong "Mark W Phelps" when
>>> > he quoted that letter?
>>>
>>> You're kidding? You're *not kidding are you? He thinks they're the same
>>> person?

Still apparently does, despite mwphelps' repeated assertions to the
contrary.

>>Heh heh heh...isn't this fascinating?

Oh, absolutely.

>>In a decade and a half
>>of reading Usenet, I cannot recall ever seeing anyone stick
>>his foot this far into it.
>
>Hahahahahahahahahaha, this is excellent. Chunk has managed to paint
>himself into a corner with no escape. Because he claimed the Spirit of
>God told him that "mwphelps" is the son of the frothing loonie Fred
>Phelps of Topeka, KS, Chunk cannot concede that he is dead wrong with
>another one of his kooky assertions; if he did he would be admitting
>that his "inspiration" is a bag of hot air. So he is forced to
>continue repeating the lie over and over.

If I needed any more corroboration that the voice in Andy's head is *NOT*
the Holy Spirit, I've got it now. Thank you Jesus.

><makes nachos>

<pops open a coupla cold ones and hands one to AD>

>In the mean time, I'll go ahead and nominate Andy Chunk for the Bolo
>Bullis Foam Duck.
>
>Any seconds?

I thought he had one already, but if my memory is faulty here, your
nomination is enthusiastically seconded.

Sucking up to Phabulous Phred Phelps looks like a fine campaign strategy
for Rookie Kook of the Year as well!

Charlotte
--

Art Deco

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:42:44 PM12/5/06
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<sits back>


>
>>In the mean time, I'll go ahead and nominate Andy Chunk for the Bolo
>>Bullis Foam Duck.
>>
>>Any seconds?
>
>I thought he had one already, but if my memory is faulty here, your
>nomination is enthusiastically seconded.

Thanks, I couldn't remember if he has or not, so I figured it wouldn't
hurt to err on the cautious side. If so, it can probably be morphed to
a Special Ops Cody.


>
>Sucking up to Phabulous Phred Phelps looks like a fine campaign strategy
>for Rookie Kook of the Year as well!

I can't recall any serious challengers at this point, it seems likely
he's a shoe-in.
>
>Charlotte

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 5, 2006, 10:57:34 PM12/5/06
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> God be praised for compelling Andrew to confess that he is a
> satan-worshipper.

Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit has resulted in a loss of reading
comprehension.

> >>>> I just spoke with my biological dad this morning.
> >>>
> >>> Glad to read this.
> >>>
> >>>> We expressed our love and affection for one another.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> >>> to reconcile with your biological dad and to renounce your earlier
> >>> false witness that he loved only himself.
> >>
> >> Andrew remains deluded.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> >> My biological dad and I were never at odds.
> >
> > That is not what I discern.
>

> Andrew is completely mistaken and deluded; a fact which should indicate
> to him that his discernment is faulty.

Hint: There is only one Son Who has never be at odds with HIS Father.

You are not this sinless Son.

> A person such as Andrew, who is
> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the
> skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy
> Spirit, has lost even that faculty.

You are not the Holy Spirit.

However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and
have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above.

> >> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad.
> >
> > From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you
> > would reject your biological dad entirely.
> >
> >> That Andrew continues to
> >> propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair.
> >> Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation.
> >
> > You are projecting.
>

> Andrew is desperate.

You are still projecting.

> >>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's
> >>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your
> >>> choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >
> >> Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >
> > Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>

> Did Andrew write "the LORD"?

Yes.

There are many lords.

Christ Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords.

HE is the LORD of lords.

Jesus is LORD GOD Almighty.

> Did Andrew just attach "the" to "LORD"?

Because there are many lords, "the" is necessary here.

> According to Andrew, Andrew is himself without a relationship with the Lord.

Your past use of "the" with LORD Jesus Christ was inappropriate for
someone claiming to be HIS brethren and revealed that you did not have
a personal relationship with HIM.

Retrospectively we now know why.

In your letter about you dad, you wrote about believing God and the
Bible but there is no mention about a personal relationship with Jesus
Christ. Negatively comparing your dad to Jesus Christ indicates that
you have been using HIS name to commit the sin of dishonoring your dad
instead of walking with HIM in a personal relationship.

> >> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will
> >> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life.
> >
> > Again, you are projecting:
>

> Andrew is desperate.

Again, you are still projecting:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

> However, Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as


> far as I am concerned.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully so there has been
no false testimony.

Instead, your bearing false witness is forgiven though only GOD can
forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad
and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological
family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from
them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned.

This saddens me.

Art Deco

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> >> My biological dad and I were never at odds.
>> >
>> > That is not what I discern.
>>
>> Andrew is completely mistaken and deluded; a fact which should indicate
>> to him that his discernment is faulty.
>
>Hint: There is only one Son Who has never be at odds with HIS Father.
>
>You are not this sinless Son.

He never claimed to be, you idiot.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 6, 2006, 12:46:45 AM12/6/06
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Art Deco wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> My biological dad and I were **never** at odds.

**emphasis** added.

> >> > That is not what I discern.
> >>
> >> Andrew is completely mistaken and deluded; a fact which should indicate
> >> to him that his discernment is faulty.
> >
> >Hint: There is only one Son Who has never be at odds with HIS Father.
> >
> >You are not this sinless Son.
>
> He never claimed to be

see **emphasis**

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love others a
little bit more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor Art
whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> Hint: my biological dad and I have NEVER been at odds. Andrew's envy is
> showing. Andrew will just have to swallow his envy and deal with the facts.

Without the LORD, your fantasies, which includes an imaginary
biological dad, are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> > You are not this sinless Son.
>

> I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew
> will just have to deal with it. It is not my fault if Andrew's dad
> mistreated him, and that this causes Andrew to yearn jealously for a
> healthy dad/son relationship.

In this imperfect world, an absence of discipline and correction is an
unhealthy dad/son relationship except when the Son is LORD Jesus
Christ.

> >> A person such as Andrew, who is
> >> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the
> >> skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy
> >> Spirit, has lost even that faculty.
> >
> > You are not the Holy Spirit.
>

> Never claimed to be.

You have implied it.

> Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy
> Spirit.

Again, you are not the Holy Spirit.

> > However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and
> > have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above.
>

> No. But this is clearly true of Andrew Chung.

Your inability to maintain eye contact is telling.

> >>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad.
> >>
> >>> From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you
> >>> would reject your biological dad entirely.
> >>>
> >>>> That Andrew continues to
> >>>> propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair.
> >>>> Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation.
> >>> You are projecting.
> >> Andrew is desperate.
> >
> > You are still projecting.
>

> Andrew is desperate.

Again, you are still projecting.

> With no source of knowledge to tap into since he
> blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble.

No, simply observing you.

> >>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's
> >>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your
> >>>>> choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >>>> Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >>> Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >> Did Andrew write "the LORD"?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > There are many lords.
> >
> > Christ Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords.
> >
> > HE is the LORD of lords.
> >
> > Jesus is LORD GOD Almighty.
> >
> >> Did Andrew just attach "the" to "LORD"?
> >
> > Because there are many lords, "the" is necessary here.
> >
> >> According to Andrew, Andrew is himself without a relationship with the Lord.
> >
> > Your past use of "the" with LORD Jesus Christ was inappropriate for
> > someone claiming to be HIS brethren and revealed that you did not have
> > a personal relationship with HIM.
>

> Andrew's own words condemn him.

Again, you are projecting.

> >
> > Retrospectively we now know why.
> >
> > In your letter about you dad, you wrote about believing God and the
> > Bible but there is no mention about a personal relationship with Jesus
> > Christ. Negatively comparing your dad to Jesus Christ indicates that
> > you have been using HIS name to commit the sin of dishonoring your dad
> > instead of walking with HIM in a personal relationship.
>

> In his arrogance and despair, Andrew cannot bear the idea that he's
> wrong about me.

Your inability to maintain eye contact remains telling.

> In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face
> the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the
> Spirit".

Again, you are projecting.

> One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with
> the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is non-corporeal. There is no contact to be made.

Those in the Holy Spirit know this.

> Another implication is that Andrew was led to the
> Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has
> chosen to utterly reject Him. Yet another implication is that Andrew
> will have to actually admit to his wrong-doing. This is likely the most
> painful implication for Andrew, since he displays classic over-achiever
> behaviors. Recent research has been empirically demonstrating that men
> of less-than-average stature tend to behave "over-the-top" in order to
> compensate for their lack of height. The literature suggests that this
> is especially true of men of Asian descent.

Actually, my height is above average.

> Clearly, one of the three implications is the case.

Your attempt to shift the focus from your identity is telling.

> >>>> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will
> >>>> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life.
> >>> Again, you are projecting:
> >> Andrew is desperate.
> >
> > Again, you are still projecting:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >
> >> However, Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as
> >> far as I am concerned.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully so there has been
> > no false testimony.
>

> And yet, Andrew continues to write lies. Andrew is indeed exercising a
> choice, but it is not the one he claims.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while concurrently
stating that one of us is untruthful.

> > Instead, your bearing false witness is forgiven though only GOD can
> > forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
>

> If Andrew had any clue how to understand the Word of God, he would know
> (a) what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is,

In the Holy Spirit, I know.

> (b) that he is guilty of it,

Again, your false witness is forgiven though only GOD can forgive your
greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. See above.

> (c) that I am not guilty of it, and

What has been archived in Google where you have blasphemed the Holy
Spirit, Who was guiding another member of the brethren of LORD Jesus
Christ to challenge you, is irrefutable.

> (d) that while God *can* forgive it, He will not forgive it.

The latter is up to GOD. HE has changed HIS mind before (Book of
Jonah) and can do this again.

> > In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad
> > and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological
> > family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from
> > them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned.
>

> What an amusing sentence!

Your feigned amusement

> Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions:
>
> ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad;

Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., however is your biological dad.

> ~None of his children are my biological siblings;

The biological children of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. are your
biological siblings.

> ~I have zero biological siblings;

Yes, you are estranged from them as well

> ~Andrew Chung is wrong;

Your atheist friends want to believe this but that would mean that they
would have to believe you. As you should be well aware by now, they
are adverse to placing their faith in anything. I suspect that many
have a nagging suspicion that you are Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of
Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. They remember asking you and getting a
non-response.

> ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit;

There is no other explanation for how I know your identity.

> ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case;

It remains my choice to trust the Holy Spirit and accept HIS guidance
in everything I say, do and write.

> ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric;

It remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that
needs saving here.

> ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical;

Indeed, it has been anticipated.

> ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face";

Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no
face that needs saving here.

> ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some
> very important ways.

Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily to remain a new
creature in HIM so that neither pride nor shame is a problem.

> >
> > This saddens me.
>
> Actually, it shames Andrew.

In the Holy Spirit, there is no shame.

Flying Rat

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teh HaterCabal will be putting the prolific Pambo forward for
k00ksideration, but Chunkyboi is a strong front runner. Should be a
great election this year!

FR

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In article <MPG.1fe0e854b...@news.readfreenews.net>,

SPammy isn't eligible for Rookie Kook of the Year. Andrew won his KotM
this year, so he is. SPammy has to run in the veteran class this year -
and, yes, she is on the ballot automatically.

You can vote for both. I know I'll be doing so ;).

Charlotte
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> Nothing imaginary about it.

It does not surpise me that in your imagination you have constructed an
imaginary dad who is the polar opposite of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr.,
your biological dad, whom you have described as someone that does not
have any qualities in common with who you believe Jesus Christ to be.

> Andrew will just have to deal with that,
> and the fact that my relationship with my dad is exponentially better
> than his relationship with his own dad.

Indeed, such are the limits of the imagination... none ! ! !

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you

to unwittingly show even to the undiscerning that you have been
fantasizing an imaginary dad to replace your biological one.

> >>> You are not this sinless Son.
> >> I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew
> >> will just have to deal with it. It is not my fault if Andrew's dad
> >> mistreated him, and that this causes Andrew to yearn jealously for a
> >> healthy dad/son relationship.
> >
> > In this imperfect world, an absence of discipline and correction is an
> > unhealthy dad/son relationship except when the Son is LORD Jesus
> > Christ.
>

> Finally, we get to the root of Andrew's pathology. In the absence of
> any gross physical impairment, psychopathology is almost always the
> result of poor or incomplete socialization. What we see in Andrew's
> behavior is typical for victims of childhood abuse; and this abuse, I
> suspect, Andrew is admitting as a cry for help.

It does not surprise me that you believe your biological dad's use of
the rod to discipline you was child abuse. What child does not think
this during the discipline. Only thing is that apparently you did not
grow up as others have to retrospectively realize it was necessary but
instead you ran away from home to escape from receiving discipline.
This has resulted in your being stuck in the false belief that your
biological dad's disciplining you was child abuse. To think otherwise
would cause you to lose your justification for running away from home.

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.

The latter two qualities means that HE is a disciplinarian.

Your knowing this aspect about GOD though HIS written Word, the Holy
Bible, which you know well through your biological dad has compelled
you to remain distant from HIM just as you are distant from your
biological dad.

> >>>> A person such as Andrew, who is
> >>>> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the
> >>>> skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy
> >>>> Spirit, has lost even that faculty.
> >>> You are not the Holy Spirit.
> >> Never claimed to be.
> >
> > You have implied it.
>

> Wrong. Andrew has inferred it.

Your claim that my rejecting you is blaspheming the Holy Spirit implies
that you believe you are the Holy Spirit.

> >> Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy
> >> Spirit.
> >
> > Again, you are not the Holy Spirit.
>

> Correct. And I never claimed to be the Holy Spirit.

See above.

> >>> However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and


> >>> have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above.
> >> No. But this is clearly true of Andrew Chung.
> >
> > Your inability to maintain eye contact is telling.
>

> You see, dear readers, how the mention of Andrew's biological dad has
> dredged up this "eye contact" business again?

It remains a tell for those who are untruthful like you.

> >>>>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad.
> >>>>> From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you
> >>>>> would reject your biological dad entirely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> That Andrew continues to
> >>>>>> propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair.
> >>>>>> Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation.
> >>>>> You are projecting.
> >>>> Andrew is desperate.
> >>> You are still projecting.
> >> Andrew is desperate.
> >
> > Again, you are still projecting.
>

> If it's psychobabble Andrew wants, he shall have it. Andrew is
> currently stuck in a positive feedback loop of my own creation.

Indeed, you are the source of your own projection.

> I created it so that Andrew would, by means of transference, condemn the
> parts of himself which I presented to him by acting as he acts. This he
> has done and continues to do.

It remains my choice to passively reflect back your projection as would
a mirror.

This is why you know nothing about my relationship with my dad.

> The current result of the feedback loop is the dredging up of a past
> with an abusive dad. I anticipated this. I suspect that this is why
> Andrew is unable to let go of the notion that famed hate-monger Fred
> Phelps is my dad; for Andrew Chung, Fred Phelps is, metaphorically, his
> dad. It is necessary for Andrew to continue to insist that Fred is my
> biological dad, because this gives Andrew a pathway for condemning his
> own abusive dad without fear of reprisals from same.
>
> Andrew's relationship with his dad is the reason for both his academic
> over-achievement and his inability to use it. Andrew's relationship
> with his dad is the reason for his over-the-top behavior on Usenet,
> including his own characterization of it as "walking on water".
> Andrew's relationship with his dad is the reason for his nearly 18,000
> Usenet posts, and for his legalistic mindset.
>
> Andrew will likely label what I have written as "dark fantasy" or with
> some other pejorative; this is to be expected, as Andrew's denial and
> reaction formation run very, very deeply. I'm convinced that only with
> the help of a competent therapist, who deals in such pathology, will
> Andrew finally come to grips with this painful part of his life.

Small problem with your fantasy, my biological dad is not a
disciplinarian (he is not Christian). Instead, the discipline that I
had needed came directly from my heavenly Father, who once chastened me
so severely that I lost part of a finger and in another instance had me
beaten by several demon-possessed police officers to the point of
death.

Looking back, had HE not disciplined me during those times of my life,
I would have ended up inextricably tied up in sin and the ways of this
world.

> >> With no source of knowledge to tap into since he
> >> blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble.
> >
> > No, simply observing you.
>

> See above.

Please do.

> >>>>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's
> >>>>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your
> >>>>>>> choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >>>>>> Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >>>>> Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >>>> Did Andrew write "the LORD"?
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>> There are many lords.
> >>>
> >>> Christ Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords.
> >>>
> >>> HE is the LORD of lords.
> >>>
> >>> Jesus is LORD GOD Almighty.
> >>>
> >>>> Did Andrew just attach "the" to "LORD"?
> >>> Because there are many lords, "the" is necessary here.
> >>>
> >>>> According to Andrew, Andrew is himself without a relationship with the Lord.
> >>> Your past use of "the" with LORD Jesus Christ was inappropriate for
> >>> someone claiming to be HIS brethren and revealed that you did not have
> >>> a personal relationship with HIM.
> >> Andrew's own words condemn him.
> >
> > Again, you are projecting.
>

> See above.

Please do.

> >
> >>> Retrospectively we now know why.
> >>>
> >>> In your letter about you dad, you wrote about believing God and the
> >>> Bible but there is no mention about a personal relationship with Jesus
> >>> Christ. Negatively comparing your dad to Jesus Christ indicates that
> >>> you have been using HIS name to commit the sin of dishonoring your dad
> >>> instead of walking with HIM in a personal relationship.
> >> In his arrogance and despair, Andrew cannot bear the idea that he's
> >> wrong about me.
> >
> > Your inability to maintain eye contact remains telling.
>

> See above for why this "eye contact" business has cropped up again.

See above for how your inability to maintain eye contact helps even the
undiscerning know that you have been untruthful.

> >
> >> In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face
> >> the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the
> >> Spirit".
> >
> > Again, you are projecting.
>

> See above.

Please do.

> >
> >> One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with
> >> the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > The Holy Spirit is non-corporeal. There is no contact to be made.
> >
> > Those in the Holy Spirit know this.
>

> No, I'm finished reflecting Andrew's rigid "daddy-please-love-me"
> persona. See above for an explanation of Andrew's thinking and behavior.

You are still projecting even more so now than ever.

> >
> >> Another implication is that Andrew was led to the
> >> Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has
> >> chosen to utterly reject Him. Yet another implication is that Andrew
> >> will have to actually admit to his wrong-doing. This is likely the most
> >> painful implication for Andrew, since he displays classic over-achiever
> >> behaviors. Recent research has been empirically demonstrating that men
> >> of less-than-average stature tend to behave "over-the-top" in order to
> >> compensate for their lack of height. The literature suggests that this
> >> is especially true of men of Asian descent.
> >
> > Actually, my height is above average.
>

> As stated above, Andrew's denial runs very deeply.

As if Yao Ming could suffer from a Napolean-complex much less be in
denial about it.

> >> Clearly, one of the three implications is the case.
> >
> > Your attempt to shift the focus from your identity is telling.
>

> Andrew's poor relationship with his own dad is palpable here. He
> desperately needs for me to be the biological son of Fred Phelps. This
> gives him yet another thing to despise about me, the object of his
> transference. In so doing, Andrew is able to hate and condemn his own
> dad from a safe distance, and without fear of reprisals.

Your use of the words despise and hate reminds me of how you have
publicly condemned your biological dad in the letter you have written
above.

In the Holy Spirit, I know that one of the reasons you have
participated on usenet especially in alt.atheism is because there you
have received much comfort in witnessing the derision and scorn that
atheists have had towards accounts of how your dad allegedly mistreated
you and your brother. What has kept you from openly revealing your
identity is the fact that the rest of your biological family and their
extended church family are very internet-savvy as borne out by how
effectively they have used the internet to further their ministry.

> is not feigned. I am quite tickled by Andrew's feeble attempt to
> reconcile to mutually exclusive statements.

It serves the purpose to inform others about what they are witnessing.

> >> Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions:
> >>
> >> ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad;
> >
> > Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., however is your biological dad.
>

> Wrong. But metaphorically, Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., is Andrew's dad.

Your friends in alt.atheism, who have been your source of comfort in
every instance when your letter about Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. is
posted surreptitiously by you onto usenet, react adversely to
metaphors so that this will likely result in decreased ratings with
your fan club.

> >> ~None of his children are my biological siblings;
> >
> > The biological children of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. are your
> > biological siblings.
>

> Wrong. But, apparently this "Fred Phelps" business is dredging up a
> great deal more pain for Andrew than I had anticipated. One wonders
> about Andrew's relationship with his own biological siblings. Clearly,
> Andrew sees himself as Mark W. Phelps, the son who had the courage to
> break away from his abusive dad, Fred Phelps. However, Andrew is
> terribly conflicted about his fantasy, and insists upon casting himself
> in the role of "dutiful, loyal son", all the while wishing he could
> summon up the courage to walk away from his own abusive dad.

Your friends at alt.atheism have enough trouble understanding the
brethren of LORD Jesus Christ to the point of causing cognitive
overload that this fanciful twist you are now introducing is likely
going to cause a cerebrovascular accident or two or three.

> >> ~I have zero biological siblings;
> >
> > Yes, you are estranged from them as well
>

> Wrong. However, clearly Andrew is feeling the angst of some sort of
> estrangement from his own siblings, if he has any. If not, then the
> fantasy siblings which an only child will often create are likely the
> targets of Andrew's frustration. In other words, if Andrew had
> siblings, he would be the best and most loyal of them.

Such is the tangled web that untruthful people like MWPhelps weaves.

> >
> >> ~Andrew Chung is wrong;
> >
> > Your atheist friends want to believe this but that would mean that they
> > would have to believe you. As you should be well aware by now, they
> > are adverse to placing their faith in anything. I suspect that many
> > have a nagging suspicion that you are Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of
> > Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. They remember asking you and getting a
> > non-response.
>

> Asked and answered in another post elsewhere on this group. Again, see
> above for an explanation of Andrew's inability to let go of this fantasy
> about Fred Phelps.

Their nature is to be skeptical. You are now a blip on their radars.

No more cloaking for you.

> >> ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit;
> >
> > There is no other explanation for how I know your identity.
>

> Clearly, Andrew is beginning to doubt himself. The plain, provable,
> undeniable, empirical fact is that Andrew does not know my identity.
>
> However, it is clear that his desire to know my identity is tied
> securely to his desire to know himself. The more he knows of me, the
> more of his angst he can transfer to me. The more he does that, the
> more hatred he can launch at himself. The issue here, of course, is one
> of safety for me. If Andrew ever did learn my identity, he would do his
> utmost to destroy me; for in Andrew's mind, I represent the worst of
> himself.

If you believe that your friends at alt.atheism are buying this, you
have no explanation for why they doubt the veracity of the Holy Bible.

> >> ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case;
> >
> > It remains my choice to trust the Holy Spirit and accept HIS guidance
> > in everything I say, do and write.
>

> In other words, Andrew will continue to attack the self he has
> transfered onto me.

It is interesting how you feel attacked by your own reflection.

> >> ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric;
> >
> > It remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that
> > needs saving here.
>

> Of course not. This is because Andrew has transferred that "face" to
> me, and is intent upon destroying it.

It is interesting how you feel threatened by your own reflection.

> >
> >> ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical;
> >
> > Indeed, it has been anticipated.
>

> In other words, Andrew is so intent upon destroying what he sees of
> himself in me, and in Fred Phelps, that his crusade to prove a
> connection between us will continue.

Your own behavior has served as proof for your friends at alt.atheism.

As for me, I do not need proof.

In the Holy Spirit, I know who you are because GOD knows who you are.

> >> ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face";
> >
> > Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no
> > face that needs saving here.
>

> See above.

Please do.

> >
> >> ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some
> >> very important ways.
> >
> > Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily to remain a new
> > creature in HIM so that neither pride nor shame is a problem.
>

> See above.

Please do.

> >
> >>> This saddens me.
> >> Actually, it shames Andrew.
> >
> > In the Holy Spirit, there is no shame.
>

> However, in Andrew's childhood home, there was a great deal of shame.
> It is no wonder that Andrew retreats to this statement upon being
> confronted with his shame.

Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Sorry the truth has taken away your hope which resided in your friends
in alt.atheism.

They now know that your real motivation for hanging out with them is to
steal their love while attempting to thwart any opportunities for them
to know LORD Jesus Christ.

Art Deco

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<"mwph...@gmail.com"> wrote:

>> In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad
>> and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological
>> family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from
>> them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned.
>

>What an amusing sentence!


>
>Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions:
>
>~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad;

>~None of his children are my biological siblings;

>~I have zero biological siblings;

>~Andrew Chung is wrong;


>~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit;

>~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case;

>~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric;

>~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical;

>~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face";

>~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some
>very important ways.

~Andrew Chung is a liar, a fraud, and a spammer.

Art Deco

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> > In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad
>> > and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological
>> > family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from
>> > them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned.
>>
>> What an amusing sentence!
>
>Your feigned amusement

Liar.


>
>> Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions:
>>
>> ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad;
>
>Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., however is your biological dad.

Liar.


>
>> ~None of his children are my biological siblings;
>
>The biological children of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. are your
>biological siblings.

Liar.


>
>> ~I have zero biological siblings;
>
>Yes, you are estranged from them as well

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung is wrong;
>
>Your atheist friends want to believe this but that would mean that they
>would have to believe you. As you should be well aware by now, they
>are adverse to placing their faith in anything. I suspect that many
>have a nagging suspicion that you are Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of
>Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. They remember asking you and getting a
>non-response.

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit;
>
>There is no other explanation for how I know your identity.

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case;
>
>It remains my choice to trust the Holy Spirit and accept HIS guidance
>in everything I say, do and write.

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric;
>
>It remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that
>needs saving here.

Liar.


>
>> ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical;
>
>Indeed, it has been anticipated.

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face";
>
>Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no
>face that needs saving here.

Liar.


>
>> ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some
>> very important ways.
>
>Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily to remain a new
>creature in HIM so that neither pride nor shame is a problem.

Liar.

Pretty much says it all.

Art Deco

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Charlotte L. Blackmer <c...@green.rahul.net> wrote:

>In article <MPG.1fe0e854b...@news.readfreenews.net>,
>Flying Rat <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>In article <051220062042449251%er...@netcabal.com>, er...@netcabal.com
>>says...
>>> Charlotte L. Blackmer <c...@green.rahul.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <051220061902429091%er...@netcabal.com>,
>>> >Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks, I couldn't remember if he has or not, so I figured it wouldn't
>>> hurt to err on the cautious side. If so, it can probably be morphed to
>>> a Special Ops Cody.
>>> >
>>> >Sucking up to Phabulous Phred Phelps looks like a fine campaign strategy
>>> >for Rookie Kook of the Year as well!
>>>
>>> I can't recall any serious challengers at this point, it seems likely
>>> he's a shoe-in.
>>
>>teh HaterCabal will be putting the prolific Pambo forward for
>>k00ksideration, but Chunkyboi is a strong front runner. Should be a
>>great election this year!
>
>SPammy isn't eligible for Rookie Kook of the Year. Andrew won his KotM
>this year, so he is. SPammy has to run in the veteran class this year -
>and, yes, she is on the ballot automatically.
>
>You can vote for both. I know I'll be doing so ;).
>
>Charlotte

Plus the Kook of the Year ballot will have every KotM winner since the
year 0 on it, so the competition is tough.

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<"mwph...@gmail.com"> wrote:

>A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having
>chest pains. I think it's my heart."
>
>The cardiologist says, "Okay. Take of your left shoe and let's have a
>look."
>
>The guy says, "What? Why my left shoe?"
>
>Cardiologist says, "Because that's where your heart is located."
>
>Guy says, "No it's not. My heart is in my chest."
>
>Cardiologist says, "Maybe for most people; but your heart is in your
>left foot."
>
>Guys says, "Are you kidding me? No, doc. My heart is in my chest, just
>like every other normally developed human being."
>
>Cardiologist says, "No. Not yours. You heart is in your left foot. In
>the Holy Spirit, I know this to be true."
>
>Guy says, "You're wrong, doc. My heart's not in my left foot. My
>heart's in my chest. I can feel it beating with my hand. In fact, I
>can see my chest respond to its movement. Check it out for yourself."
>
>Cardiologist says, "No need for me to check it out. In the Holy Spirit,
>I know that your heart is in your left foot. And you're a blasphemer, too."
>
>Guy says, "I'm a what? What in the world are you talking about? Are
>you really a cardiologist?"
>
>Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your questions are meaningless.
>In the Holy Spirit, I know that your heart is in your left foot. There
>is no other explanation for how I know that your heart is in your left
>foot."
>
>Guy says, "Look doc. I know you have some pretty advanced education,
>and I'm pretty sure that you were taught some pretty simple and reliable
>methods to determine whether my heart is in my chest or in my foot."
>
>Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless.
>In the Holy Spirit, I know, unequivocally, assuredly, positively that
>your heart is in your foot."
>
>Guy says, "Alrighty then. You have a nice day doc. I'm going someplace
>where they actually use their brains."
>
>Guy leaves the cardiologist's office, and gets help at a nearby hospital
>emergency room. After he recovers, the guy wonders if the public should
>be protected from the cardiologist.

IAWTP.

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In three words:

Changing the subject.

Back to the subject at hand:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?:

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you

to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W.


Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr.

mwph...@gmail.com wrote:
> A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having
> chest pains. I think it's my heart."
>
> The cardiologist says, "Okay. Take of your left shoe and let's have a
> look."
>
> The guy says, "What? Why my left shoe?"
>
> Cardiologist says, "Because that's where your heart is located."
>
> Guy says, "No it's not. My heart is in my chest."
>
> Cardiologist says, "Maybe for most people; but your heart is in your
> left foot."
>
> Guys says, "Are you kidding me? No, doc. My heart is in my chest, just
> like every other normally developed human being."
>

> Cardiologist says, "No. Not yours. You heart is in your left foot. In


> the Holy Spirit, I know this to be true."
>
> Guy says, "You're wrong, doc. My heart's not in my left foot. My
> heart's in my chest. I can feel it beating with my hand. In fact, I
> can see my chest respond to its movement. Check it out for yourself."
>

> Cardiologist says, "No need for me to check it out. In the Holy Spirit,


> I know that your heart is in your left foot. And you're a blasphemer, too."
>
> Guy says, "I'm a what? What in the world are you talking about? Are
> you really a cardiologist?"
>
> Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your questions are meaningless.

> In the Holy Spirit, I know that your heart is in your left foot. There


> is no other explanation for how I know that your heart is in your left
> foot."
>
> Guy says, "Look doc. I know you have some pretty advanced education,
> and I'm pretty sure that you were taught some pretty simple and reliable
> methods to determine whether my heart is in my chest or in my foot."
>

> Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless.


> In the Holy Spirit, I know, unequivocally, assuredly, positively that
> your heart is in your foot."
>

> Guy says, "Alrighty then. You have a nice day doc. I'm going someplace

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Chris Johnson

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mwph...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry. Come again?

IAWTP = "I agree with this post"

Peter Barber

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But, but - you forgot the bit where he says:

"Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you

to unwittingly show even to the layman that you have been
fantasizing an imaginary heart to replace your biological one."

And don't you remember this bit:

Cardiologist says, "May GOD continue to heal your heart with HIS living
water curing you of
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can l..."

Guy says, "Whoa there, doc. I'm not diabetic, and the only reason I'm
panicking is that your sign says 'Cardiologist' and you don't seem to
know where my heart is!"

(But I like this post. I like it a lot.)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 7, 2006, 2:59:02 AM12/7/06
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Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > In three words:
> >
> > Changing the subject.
> >
> > **Back** to the subject at hand:

**emphasis** added

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?:
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> > to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W.
> > Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr.
>

> And here I thought Andrew was going to change the subject.

See **emphasis**

> Instead, he posts a statement which fits precisely the pattern of the
> cardiologist in the parable. It's just uncanny.

It does not surprise me to see how quickly what you imagine becomes
real to you.

You created an imaginary dad who never disciplined you to replace your
biological dad who often did.

You created an imaginary family where you are an only child getting all
the attention to replace your biological family where there were twelve
other siblings competing for your parents' affection.

You created an imaginery god which you have imagined to have given you
all that you have imagined.

> Why, one might be tempted to wonder if Andrew *is* the cardiologist in
> the parable.

Only if one believed the fiction you are attempting to pass off as the
truth.

Such is the hope of satan's minions such as yourself:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

Know that holy fire from heaven is enroute to your location:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1348055d48784253?

> > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote the following work of fiction in hopes of changing the subject:

Amusing and entertaining work of fiction by Mark W. Phelps, estranged
son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. that rivals his earlier fictional work
concerning his biological dad as quoted in the OP:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/16c279ece5fbd098?

Mark must think atheists are idiots who believe only what they want to
believe.

Are they ?

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Art Deco

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Dec 7, 2006, 7:09:29 PM12/7/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>In three words:
>
>Changing the subject.
>
>Back to the subject at hand:

[random self-quotation flushed, unread, along with the support ng Chunk
loves to troll]

The subject is your status as a net.kook, Chunk.

Art Deco

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Dec 7, 2006, 7:10:40 PM12/7/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Know that holy fire from heaven is enroute to your location:

Kook.

Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 8, 2006, 10:10:43 AM12/8/06
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:59:02 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > In three words:
>> >
>> > Changing the subject.
>> >
>> > **Back** to the subject at hand:
>
> **emphasis** added
>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?:
>> >
>> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
>> > to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W.
>> > Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr.
>>
>> And here I thought Andrew was going to change the subject.
>
> See **emphasis**
>
>> Instead, he posts a statement which fits precisely the pattern of the
>> cardiologist in the parable. It's just uncanny.
>
> It does not surprise me to see how quickly what you imagine becomes
> real to you.
>
> You created an imaginary dad who never disciplined you to replace your
> biological dad who often did.
>
> You created an imaginary family where you are an only child getting all
> the attention to replace your biological family where there were twelve
> other siblings competing for your parents' affection.
>
> You created an imaginery god which you have imagined to have given you
> all that you have imagined.

No, it's simpler than that.

You. Are. Wrong.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 9, 2006, 3:22:10 PM12/9/06
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Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > In three words:
> >> >
> >> > Changing the subject.
> >> >
> >> > **Back** to the subject at hand:
> >
> > **emphasis** added
> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?:
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
> >> > to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W.
> >> > Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr.
> >>
> >> And here I thought Andrew was going to change the subject.
> >
> > See **emphasis**
> >
> >> Instead, he posts a statement which fits precisely the pattern of the
> >> cardiologist in the parable. It's just uncanny.
> >
> > It does not surprise me to see how quickly what you imagine becomes
> > real to you.
> >
> > You created an imaginary dad who never disciplined you to replace your
> > biological dad who often did.
> >
> > You created an imaginary family where you are an only child getting all
> > the attention to replace your biological family where there were twelve
> > other siblings competing for your parents' affection.
> >
> > You created an imaginary god which you have imagined to have given you

> > all that you have imagined.
>
> No, it's simpler than that.

Indeed:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c66d29055ea66c5f?

"He certainly has beguiled you, his atheist friends."

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Mark whom I love unconditionally.

Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 9, 2006, 4:47:33 PM12/9/06
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Oh this ought to be good.

Explain why an atheist would need to "beguile" atheists. If the real Mark
Phelps were to show up in alt.atheism, declaring he was an atheist, he'd
be *welcomed.

Get it Andy? We're atheists. For real. We *welcome new atheists showing up
in our newsgroup.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems.
-Scott (#1045)

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 8:38:36 AM12/10/06
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Demon MWPhelps is not an atheist but an anti-christian masquerading as
different persona, one an atheist (Conspiracy of Doves aka
mark_d...@yahoo.com) and another as a Christian (mwph...@flash.net)
and still others.

> If the real Mark
> Phelps were to show up in alt.atheism, declaring he was an atheist, he'd
> be *welcomed.

And so you have welcomed satan who has had no problems declaring
himself to be an atheist.

> Get it Andy? We're atheists. For real. We *welcome new atheists showing up
> in our newsgroup.

Yes, after rejecting the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, you have been
misled by satan down the wide and meandering path taken by many to
their doom and destruction.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water to cure our
depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our neighbors a

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 9:40:56 AM12/10/06
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Demon MWPhelps wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Demon MWPhelps wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Demon MWPhelps wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >
> > > > > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright
> > > > > evil.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
> > > > iniquities.
> > >
> > > What truth?
> >
> > Your question reminds me of that which Governor Pontius Pilate asked of
> > LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > Here is HIS answer:
> >
> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
>
> That is your answer.

I am not LORD Jesus Christ.

We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, have chosen to walk ever closer
to HIM so that those who are of the world like you, demon MWPhelps,
routinely get us confused with HIM.

This is why you needed to pay Judas Iscariot to lead you to HIM.

It was not until Judas kissed Jesus that you knew HIM from either
Peter, John, or the others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:13:38 AM12/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> said:

> misled by satan

Satan's name should be capitalized.
No, really, it should. Look it up.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan

--
Cm~

And "freedom of speech" is something that
allows retarded kooks like you to scribble
invalid and impotent collections of words
and place them out in the public.

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:20:11 AM12/10/06
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Per article <r54nn2hnc6i7pv6r1...@4ax.com>
posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks,
Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> said:

> On 9 Dec 2006 12:22:10 -0800, in alt.usenet.kooks, Slanderous dimwit
> and butcher of atlanta "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" signed up for an

> one day you stop, braying to imaginary fictions and delusions and
> start thinking.

They said you were an optimist; they were right.

> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> >Andrew <><
>

> Simpering fool. he is almost half a step removed from a witch doctor.

An insult to witch doctors everywhere, I'm sure.

--
Cm~


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:37:07 AM12/10/06
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Barbara's Cat wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > atheists are misled by satan

>
> Satan's name should be capitalized.
> No, really, it should. Look it up.
>
> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan

In the Holy Spirit, my choice remains not to capitalize the name of the
source of all lies, who is the prince of this world.

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not the prince of lies) that is
of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our


neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:44:12 AM12/10/06
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Per article <1165761656....@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> I am not LORD Jesus Christ.

That first step towards sanity was a hard one, eh?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 10:56:27 AM12/10/06
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Barbara's Cat wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > I am not LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> That first step towards sanity was a hard one

Thanks be to GOD for compelling you to share your experience.

> , eh?

Indeed.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of

Art Deco

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:08:28 AM12/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>I am not LORD Jesus Christ.

You are just a frothy little kook trying to seem important by spewing
crap to usenet.

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:19:43 AM12/10/06
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Per article <1165766187.6...@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>

posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> Barbara's Cat wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > I am not LORD Jesus Christ.
> >

> > That first step towards sanity was a hard one, eh?
>
> Indeed.
>
> Andrew <><

<snicker>

"Good" post editing is to die for, isn't it?

Barbara's Cat

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:40:58 AM12/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> Barbara's Cat wrote:


>
> > Andrew, in ignorance, sadly wrote:
> >
> > > misled by satan
> >
> > Satan's name should be capitalized.
> > No, really, it should. Look it up.
> >
> > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan
>
> In the Holy Spirit, my choice remains not to capitalize the name
> of the source of all lies, who is the prince of this world.

IOW, you celebrate your ignorance.

> Fear GOD

Why? Is he going to attempt to hurt me?
That's awfully damned rude of the guy.
Perhaps the bitter idiot should look into
professional anger management therapy.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 1:05:18 PM12/10/06
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Worshipper of satan, Barbara's Cat wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Worshipper of satan, Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > atheists are misled by satan

> > >
> > > Satan's name should be capitalized.
> > > No, really, it should. Look it up.
> > >
> > > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan
> >
> > In the Holy Spirit, my choice remains not to capitalize the name
> > of the source of all lies, who is the prince of this world.
>
> IOW, you celebrate your ignorance.

What is written plainly requires no other words. Clearly, you wish to
celebrate satan's rule in this accursed world however, his rule will
soon be over.

This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not the prince of lies) that is
of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Your consolation price is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our

Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 10, 2006, 2:40:14 PM12/10/06
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Well that makes no sense whatsoever.

>> If the real Mark
>> Phelps were to show up in alt.atheism, declaring he was an atheist, he'd
>> be *welcomed.
>
> And so you have welcomed satan who has had no problems declaring
> himself to be an atheist.

Satan doesn't exist.

>> Get it Andy? We're atheists. For real. We *welcome new atheists showing up
>> in our newsgroup.
>
> Yes, after rejecting the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, you have been
> misled by satan down the wide and meandering path taken by many to
> their doom and destruction.

Satan doesn't exist.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton

Mark K. Bilbo

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Dec 10, 2006, 2:40:34 PM12/10/06
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 07:37:07 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Barbara's Cat wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > atheists are misled by satan
>>
>> Satan's name should be capitalized.
>> No, really, it should. Look it up.
>>
>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan
>
> In the Holy Spirit, my choice remains not to capitalize the name of the
> source of all lies, who is the prince of this world.

Why? You and your dad are estranged?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------

"Creationists criticize evolutionists for the demeaning idea
of 'coming from apes' and say that man is more noble than
that, and then have sermons where man is called a miserable
worm worthy to be burned eternally in hell."
-William Bagley

Art Deco

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Dec 10, 2006, 3:13:54 PM12/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Barbara's Cat wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > I am not LORD Jesus Christ.
>>
>> That first step towards sanity was a hard one
>
>Thanks be to GOD for compelling you to share your experience.

Hi, PeeWee!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:54:30 PM12/10/06
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Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Barbara's Cat wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > atheists are misled by satan
> >>
> >> Satan's name should be capitalized.
> >> No, really, it should. Look it up.
> >>
> >> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Satan
> >
> > In the Holy Spirit, my choice remains not to capitalize the name of the
> > source of all lies, who is the prince of this world.
>
> Why?

This serves to show that we, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, are not
of this world just as the Messiah is not of this world.

Just as HE refused to honor the prince of this world, we do likewise.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our


diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor

Mark whom I love unconditionally.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 10, 2006, 11:56:23 PM12/10/06
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Simply an observation.

> >> If the real Mark
> >> Phelps were to show up in alt.atheism, declaring he was an atheist, he'd
> >> be *welcomed.
> >
> > And so you have welcomed satan who has had no problems declaring
> > himself to be an atheist.
>
> Satan doesn't exist.

If that were true, there would be no lies.

He is the source of all lies.

> >> Get it Andy? We're atheists. For real. We *welcome new atheists showing up
> >> in our newsgroup.
> >
> > Yes, after rejecting the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, you have been
> > misled by satan down the wide and meandering path taken by many to
> > their doom and destruction.
>
> Satan doesn't exist.

Again, if that were true, there would be no lies.

Diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic are problems that have arisen
because of satan's lies.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our

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