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Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 2, 2016, 5:13:00 AM6/2/16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
A Personal Relationship with Jesus
NonStampCollector
Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
us.
---===
Make a deal with The Devil
A Personal Relationship with Jesus
NonStampCollector
Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
us.
---===
Make a deal with The Devil
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 7, 2016, 8:00:57 AM6/7/16
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Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 8, 2016, 4:39:53 AM6/8/16
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Gordon
Jun 9, 2016, 5:54:07 PM6/9/16
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much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>
%
Jun 9, 2016, 6:15:30 PM6/9/16
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Rod
Jun 9, 2016, 6:57:08 PM6/9/16
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not recruiting those like you. You seem to have
missed the boat. If you have refused the gospel once
and other christians know this, and I am sure that
I have seen you do this; we no longer are required
to seek you out nor care what becomes of you.
Rod
Jun 9, 2016, 7:16:34 PM6/9/16
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On 6/9/2016 5:15 PM, % wrote:
what you don't believe ? It isn't logical or practical
to do so. You have refused the gospel before, and by
biblical rules we are not required to contact you again.
To top it off, apparently someone either doesn't know
or has forgotten this command.
Let me assure you; sane Christians don't want people
like you in the fold, okay ? Please continue on your
present course.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 9, 2016, 7:17:10 PM6/9/16
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Barry Heisenberg asked:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Actually, all who **show** that they personally know (1 John 4:8) GOD
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwf6QD-REMY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> Actually it's **not** written in the Bible that "you should not
>> believe everything you read."
>
> There is much missing in the bible.
Indeed, the most important thing that is missing in the Bible is
Apostle Paul's secret ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) concerning how
to be hungry and satisfied at the same time.
>> Instead, what's written in the Bible is that all Scripture (2 Timothy
>> 3:16) is useful for learning about what is right.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/13BKRyaSmG0/RBYUk83pEQAJ
> As long as you think genocide is right.
It is written that we're not to lean on our own understanding
(Proverbs 3:5) but to instead trust the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6)
GOD with all our heart, which means to lean on Him to "learn about
what is right."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Cw1-qgKTcpI/tFpT5itVEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Eisenberg wrote:
>>> Duke wrote:
>>>> Barry Eisenberg asked:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen God or not?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> If you are saying people haven't seen God and haven't
>>> not seen God the bible agrees with you.
>>>
>>> Has seen
>>>
>>> (Gen. 17:1)--“Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the
>>> LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; Walk
>>> before Me, and be blameless;"
>>> (Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre,
>>> while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
>>> (Exodus 6:2-3)--"God spoke further to Moses and said to him,
>>> "I am the LORD; 3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God
>>> Almighty, but by My name, LORD, I did not make Myself known to them.”
>>> (Exodus 24:9-11)--“Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and
>>> Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10and they saw the God of
>>> Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of
>>> sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11Yet He did not stretch out His
>>> hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and
>>> they ate and drank.”
>>> (Num. 12:6-8)--“He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a
>>> prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a
>>> vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7"Not so, with My servant
>>> Moses, He is faithful in all My household; 8With him I speak mouth to
>>> mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form
>>> of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant,
>>> against Moses?"
>>> (Acts 7:2), "And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and
>>> fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was
>>> in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran . . . '"
>>>
>>> Has not seen
>>>
>>> (Exodus 33:20)--“But He [God] said, "You cannot see My face,
>>> for no man can see Me and live!"
>>> (John 1:18)--“No one has seen God at any time; the only
>>> begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
>>> (John 5:37)--“"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of
>>> Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
>>> (John 6:46)--"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the
>>> One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
>>> (1 Tim. 6:15-16)--“He who is the blessed and only Sovereign,
>>> the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality
>>> and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.
>>> To Him be honour and eternal dominion! Amen.”
>>
>>
>> "About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from
>> Heaven, brighter than the Sun, blazing around me and my companions. We
>> all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in
>> Aramaic,‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to
>> kick against the goads.’ Then I asked, ‘Who are You, LORD?’ ‘I am
>> Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the LORD replied. ‘Now get up and
>> stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant
>> and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of Me." (Acts
>> 26:13-16)
>>
>> GOD "dwells in unapproachable light" (1 Timothy 6:16) which is
>> "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13) so that if allowed to "behold the
>> form of the LORD" (Numbers 12:8), we'd only be able to look down away
>> from His face to see "under His feet (that) there appeared to be a
>> pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself" (Exodus 24:10) and
>> our faces would be glowing like Moses' reportedly was from being
>> exposed to light that is "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/mP7jhnMBEQAJ
> Has anyone seen God **or** not?
**emphasis** added.
The perfect (Matthew 5:48) **logical** answer to your question is
simply "yes" according to the Holy Spirit-guided exegesis of Biblical
verses given above with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD
:-)
>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>
>>> What Would Jesus NOT Do?
>> LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth would not ask "How are you ?" simply
>> because He already knows with the latter being consistent with His
>> being GOD (John 20:28).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/cGsEdDBohnM/5rG4q1LUAwAJ
> Nothing useful apparently.
Indeed everything LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth does is useful :-)
> How are you HeartDoc Andrew?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/SQHWVRcDEQAJ
I am "wonderfully hungry" ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Barry, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of "Trust the Truth - Only the truth can cure the 'hunger
is starvation' delusion:"
http://WDJW.net/T3Book
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://WDJW.net/Matt1619
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwf6QD-REMY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> Actually it's **not** written in the Bible that "you should not
>> believe everything you read."
>
> There is much missing in the bible.
Indeed, the most important thing that is missing in the Bible is
Apostle Paul's secret ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) concerning how
to be hungry and satisfied at the same time.
>> Instead, what's written in the Bible is that all Scripture (2 Timothy
>> 3:16) is useful for learning about what is right.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/13BKRyaSmG0/RBYUk83pEQAJ
> As long as you think genocide is right.
It is written that we're not to lean on our own understanding
(Proverbs 3:5) but to instead trust the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6)
GOD with all our heart, which means to lean on Him to "learn about
what is right."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Cw1-qgKTcpI/tFpT5itVEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Eisenberg wrote:
>>> Duke wrote:
>>>> Barry Eisenberg asked:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen God or not?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> If you are saying people haven't seen God and haven't
>>> not seen God the bible agrees with you.
>>>
>>> Has seen
>>>
>>> (Gen. 17:1)--“Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the
>>> LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; Walk
>>> before Me, and be blameless;"
>>> (Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre,
>>> while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
>>> (Exodus 6:2-3)--"God spoke further to Moses and said to him,
>>> "I am the LORD; 3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God
>>> Almighty, but by My name, LORD, I did not make Myself known to them.”
>>> (Exodus 24:9-11)--“Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and
>>> Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10and they saw the God of
>>> Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of
>>> sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11Yet He did not stretch out His
>>> hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and
>>> they ate and drank.”
>>> (Num. 12:6-8)--“He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a
>>> prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a
>>> vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7"Not so, with My servant
>>> Moses, He is faithful in all My household; 8With him I speak mouth to
>>> mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form
>>> of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant,
>>> against Moses?"
>>> (Acts 7:2), "And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and
>>> fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was
>>> in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran . . . '"
>>>
>>> Has not seen
>>>
>>> (Exodus 33:20)--“But He [God] said, "You cannot see My face,
>>> for no man can see Me and live!"
>>> (John 1:18)--“No one has seen God at any time; the only
>>> begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
>>> (John 5:37)--“"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of
>>> Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
>>> (John 6:46)--"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the
>>> One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
>>> (1 Tim. 6:15-16)--“He who is the blessed and only Sovereign,
>>> the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality
>>> and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.
>>> To Him be honour and eternal dominion! Amen.”
>>
>>
>> "About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from
>> Heaven, brighter than the Sun, blazing around me and my companions. We
>> all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in
>> Aramaic,‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to
>> kick against the goads.’ Then I asked, ‘Who are You, LORD?’ ‘I am
>> Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the LORD replied. ‘Now get up and
>> stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant
>> and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of Me." (Acts
>> 26:13-16)
>>
>> GOD "dwells in unapproachable light" (1 Timothy 6:16) which is
>> "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13) so that if allowed to "behold the
>> form of the LORD" (Numbers 12:8), we'd only be able to look down away
>> from His face to see "under His feet (that) there appeared to be a
>> pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself" (Exodus 24:10) and
>> our faces would be glowing like Moses' reportedly was from being
>> exposed to light that is "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/mP7jhnMBEQAJ
> Has anyone seen God **or** not?
**emphasis** added.
The perfect (Matthew 5:48) **logical** answer to your question is
simply "yes" according to the Holy Spirit-guided exegesis of Biblical
verses given above with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD
:-)
>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>
>>> What Would Jesus NOT Do?
>> LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth would not ask "How are you ?" simply
>> because He already knows with the latter being consistent with His
>> being GOD (John 20:28).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/cGsEdDBohnM/5rG4q1LUAwAJ
> Nothing useful apparently.
Indeed everything LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth does is useful :-)
> How are you HeartDoc Andrew?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/SQHWVRcDEQAJ
I am "wonderfully hungry" ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Barry, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of "Trust the Truth - Only the truth can cure the 'hunger
is starvation' delusion:"
http://WDJW.net/T3Book
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://WDJW.net/Matt1619
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 9, 2016, 7:29:12 PM6/9/16
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Persent answered:
> Bob Officer asked in part:
> <snip>
Suggested background reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
>
>> Where was this study published and peer reviewed?
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/39/5/808.long
> in my backyard
you, Persent, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://JiL4ever.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes
> Bob Officer asked in part:
> <snip>
Suggested background reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ
>
>> Where was this study published and peer reviewed?
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/39/5/808.long
> in my backyard
you, Persent, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
http://JiL4ever.net/Luke2442
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for type-2 diabetes
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 9, 2016, 7:30:15 PM6/9/16
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Rod wrote in part:
> ... according to the American Diabetes Association
> who says that any eAG below 154(7.0) means the diabetes has gone into
> remission. Mine is eAG is 134(6.3).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/cOXahgZSAgAJ
you, Rod, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
> ... according to the American Diabetes Association
> who says that any eAG below 154(7.0) means the diabetes has gone into
> remission. Mine is eAG is 134(6.3).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/cOXahgZSAgAJ
you, Rod, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 9, 2016, 11:58:09 PM6/9/16
to
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 4:21:57 AM6/10/16
to
On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:18:36 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Barry Heisenberg asked:
>
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Barry Heisenberg asked:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>
>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>> NonStampCollector
>>
>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>
>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>
>It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
It is written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>> NonStampCollector
>>
>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>
>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>
>It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
>> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>
>It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
>15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
>Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
>15:13) love that we have for one another.
>> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>
>Actually, all who **show** that they personally know (1 John 4:8) GOD
>will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 10, 2016, 4:44:48 AM6/10/16
to
Barry Heisenberg asked:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Actually, all who **show** that they personally know (1 John 4:8) GOD
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Source:
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Actually, all who **show** that they personally know (1 John 4:8) GOD
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/pdO7EK7kbKM/Vn8ZMz7VEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwf6QD-REMY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> Actually it's **not** written in the Bible that "you should not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> believe everything you read."
>
Gordon
Jun 10, 2016, 8:09:07 AM6/10/16
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:57:57 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
no other way to mature us humans to a level of competency that would
make it safe to move us on to immortality and absolute sovereignty.
Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
any further. Gordon
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>NonStampCollector
>>>
>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>us.
>>>
>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>
>Why does God want that?
>
It isn't a matter of God "wanting" that. It is a matter of there being
>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>NonStampCollector
>>>
>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>us.
>>>
>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>
>Why does God want that?
>
no other way to mature us humans to a level of competency that would
make it safe to move us on to immortality and absolute sovereignty.
Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
any further. Gordon
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 10, 2016, 8:36:46 AM6/10/16
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In article <19pjlblm09ssf2rk3...@4ax.com>,
Until you provide evidence that the Satan thing exists, you cannot talk
about what it's going to do in the real world.
--
JD
Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream
up a God superior to themselves. Most
Gods have the manners and morals of a
spoiled child.
Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >
> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >NonStampCollector
> >
> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >
> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >
> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >us.
> >
> Satan is still
unevidenced.
> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >
> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >NonStampCollector
> >
> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >
> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >
> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >us.
> >
> Satan is still
Until you provide evidence that the Satan thing exists, you cannot talk
about what it's going to do in the real world.
--
JD
Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream
up a God superior to themselves. Most
Gods have the manners and morals of a
spoiled child.
Rod
Jun 10, 2016, 12:20:25 PM6/10/16
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On 6/10/2016 7:36 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <19pjlblm09ssf2rk3...@4ax.com>,
> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>> NonStampCollector
>>>
>>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>> Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>> us.
>>>
>> Satan is still
>
> unevidenced.
>
>
> Until you provide evidence that the Satan thing exists, you cannot talk
> about what it's going to do in the real world.
>
So you intend to suppress his right of free speech, do you? ...
> In article <19pjlblm09ssf2rk3...@4ax.com>,
> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>> NonStampCollector
>>>
>>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>> Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>> us.
>>>
>> Satan is still
>
> unevidenced.
>
>
> Until you provide evidence that the Satan thing exists, you cannot talk
> about what it's going to do in the real world.
>
dolf
Jun 10, 2016, 1:46:49 PM6/10/16
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Theory of Number...
Resistance is futile.
- dolf
Rod
Jun 10, 2016, 2:11:33 PM6/10/16
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duke
Jun 10, 2016, 5:52:43 PM6/10/16
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the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 6:58:03 PM6/10/16
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:08:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
The bible says all things are possible for God.
>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
God did make us as puppets unable to choose our personality.
>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
It does.
>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>any further. Gordon
Are you sure God is unable to infuse us with that knowledge from
the beginning?
>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>any further. Gordon
the beginning?
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 7:03:35 PM6/10/16
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>the dukester, American-American
--
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 7:25:51 PM6/10/16
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Nous: #63
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {Physician; cure}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
On 11/06/2016 08:25, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> In article <9fbvnn....@news.alt.net>, per...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>>>
>>> Nadegda wrote:
>>>>> Nomination: dolf for a George Pickett Memorial Trophy. Now
>>>>> he's gone beyond kooksoot threats to doxxing random people.
>>>>> That puts him down at the level of Fakey or so.
>>>
>>> vetoed
> Vetoe upheld and affirmed. Any further motions quashed.
-- My Reading for the Muhammad Ali Memorial
(c) 2016 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 11 June, 2016
Nous: #73
Time: 19:55 hrs
Date: 2016.1.19
Torah: #40 #90 #200 %81 = #6
Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching:H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {
1. HELPS HEAL THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified};
#15 CE <--- Augustus {increased, augmented} (Latin: Imperator Caesar
Divi Filius (ie. '*divine* *son*', or '*son* *of* *the* *divine*')
Augustus; 23 September 63 BCE-19 August 14 CE) was the founder of the
Roman Empire and its first Emperor, ruling from 27 BCE until his death
in 14 CE.
"And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus
{savior; deliverer} tarried behind in Jerusalem {vision of peace}; and
Joseph {increase; addition} and his mother knew not of it. But they,
supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and
they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem,
seeking him. And it came to pass, that after three days they found him
in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them,
and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his
understanding and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him,
'Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?
Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.'
And he said unto them, 'How is it that ye sought me? Wist ye not that I
must be about my Father’s business?'
And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen
or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}, and was subject unto
them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and
man." [Luke 2:43-52 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #373
#10, #300, #8, #50, #5 - shachah (H7812): 1) to bow down; 1a) (Qal) to
bow down; 1b) (Hiphil) to depress (fig); 1c) (Hithpael); 1c1) to bow
down, prostrate oneself; 1c1a) before superior in homage; 1c1b) before
God in worship; 1c1c) before false gods; 1c1d) before angel;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #325
#30, #5, #20, #10, #200, #50, #10 - nakar (H5234): 1) to recognise,
acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or treat as
foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to
distinguish, understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a)
(Niphal) to disguise oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign
(profane); 2b2) to misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) *to* *act* *as*
*alien*; 2c2) to disguise oneself;
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him all
the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, 'All this power will I give thee, and the
glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I
give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.'
And Jesus {savior; deliverer} answered and said unto him, 'Get thee
behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God, and him only shalt thou serve.'
And he brought him to Jerusalem {vision of peace}, and set him on a
pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, 'If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his
angels charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall
bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.'
And Jesus answering said unto him, 'It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the
Lord thy God.'
And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him
for a season.
And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee {wheel;
revolution}: and there went out a fame of him through all the region
round about.
And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came
to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen or set apart; separated; crowned;
sanctified}, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he
went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias {the
salvation of the Lord}. And when he had opened the book, he found the
place where it was written,
'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to
preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the *blind*, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach
the acceptable year of the Lord.'
And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat
down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened
on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture
fulfilled in your ears. And all bare him witness, and wondered at the
gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, 'Is not
this Joseph’s {increase; addition} son?'
And he said unto them, 'Ye will surely say unto me this proverb,
*Physician*, *heal* *thyself*: whatsoever we have heard done in
Capernaum {the field of repentance; city of comfort}, do also here in
thy country.'
And he said, Verily I say unto you, 'NO PROPHET IS ACCEPTED IN HIS OWN
COUNTRY.'" [Luke 4:5-24 (KJV)]
Nous: #3
Time: 20:15 hrs
Date: 2016.1.24
Torah: #6 #40 #2 %81 = #48
Dao: Political Prescriptions, Quietude
Tetra: #8 - Opposition
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Facies {God above all things} Alt: Anael {Ship of God} {
1. SERVES TO OBTAIN THE FRIENDSHIP OF A PERSON
2. ASTRONOMY & PHYSICS
3. THE SENSITIVITY OF THE HEART
4. Ptiau
}
#34 CE <--- Crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth in cira 33 CE
Will not God recompense you and your Roman church for their Christ
murdering, Hitler loving and lying deceiving tongue?
The 'Roman' Question: Is it justified to label the Roman Catholic Church
as 'Christ Murderers'?
Someone was responsible. She after all bears the same titles as
tributes and authorities of the Roman Caesar (ie. We have no King but
Caesar) who, then as a matter of Governance and religious belief, were
Christ murderers--then she having the same substance, is imputed guilt:
Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that
which is God's." [Luke 20:25]
"Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not
that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have *no* *power* *at* *all* *against*
*me*, *except* *it* *were* *given* *thee* *from* *above*: *therefore*
*he* *that* *delivered* *me* unto thee *hath* *the* *greater* *sin*.
And from thenceforth Pilate (ie. armed with a dart) sought to release
him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art
not Caesar’s friend: *whosoever* *maketh* *himself* *a* *king*
*speaketh* *against* *Caesar*." [John 19:10-12 (KJV)]
"Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that *they*
*which* *commit* *such* *things* *are* *worthy* *of* *death*, *not*
*only* *do* *the* *same*, but *have* *pleasure* *in* *them* *that* *do*
*them*." [Romans 1:31-32 (KJV)]
"Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it
is written in the books of the prophets, O ye house of Israel (ie. who
prevails with God), have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by
the space of forty years in the wilderness?
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch (ie. *king*), and the star of
your god Remphan (ie. prepared; arrayed), figures which ye made to
worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon (ie. incongruity;
confusion; mixture)." [Acts 7:42-43 (KJV)]
"Babylon is fallen." [Isaiah 21:9; Jeremiah 51:8; Revelation 14:8, 18:2
(KJV)]
So as to make their fall from God's Grace all the more dramatic and with
no capable means for redemption: "For it is impossible for those who
were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were
made partakers of the Holy Ghost.
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come.
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; *seeing*
*they* *crucify* *to* *themselves* *the* *Son* *of* *God* *afresh*, and
put him to open shame.
For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and
bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth
blessing from God:
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto
cursing, whose end-TELOS is burned.
But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that
accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which
ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints
and do minister.
And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the
full assurance of hope unto the end-TELOS: That ye be not slothful, but
followers of them through faith and patience inherit the promises."
[Hebrews 6:4-12 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #274
#6, #60, #200, #8 - cerach (H5629): 1) excess, overhanging;
#3, #5, #50, #5, #1, #10, #200 - genea (G1074): 1) fathered, birth,
nativity; 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a
family; 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time; 4) an age
(ie. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a
space of 30 - 33 years; 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the
successive members of a genealogy; 2b) metaph. a race of men very like
each other in endowments, pursuits, character; 2b1) esp. in a bad sense,
a perverse race;
#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10, #70, #50 - dokimion (G1383): 1) the
proving; 2) that by which something is tried or proved, a test;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #333
#30, #2, #100, #200, #1 - beqar (Aramaic) (H1240): 1) to seek, enquire;
1a) (Pael) to enquire; 1b) (Ithpael) to let search be made;
#6, #7, #200, #70, #10, #40 - zerowa` (H2220): 1) arm, forearm,
shoulder, strength; 1a) arm; 1b) arm (as symbol of strength); 1c) forces
(political and military); 1d) shoulder (of animal sacrificed);
#30, #5, #8, #200, #10, #40, #40 - charam (H2763): 1) to ban, devote,
destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction,
exterminate; 2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body); 1a)
(Hiphil); 1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban; 1a2) to consecrate,
devote, dedicate for destruction; 1a3) to exterminate, completely
destroy; 1b) (Hophal); 1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to
destruction; 1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited; 1b3) to be completely
destroyed; 2a) (Qal) to mutilate; 2b) (Hiphil) to divide;
Nous: #14
Time: 20:35 hrs
Date: 2016.1.29
Torah: #10 #5 #5 %81 = #20
Dao: Praising the Mysterious (Metaphysics)
Tetra: #9 - Branching Out
I-Ching: H19 - Approaching
Latin: Refugium {Supreme Being} Alt: Chamyah {In the Midst of God} {
1. HELPS OBTAIN WISDOM & KNOWLEDGE
2. PHILOSOPHERS & THE ENLIGHTENED
3. VIRTUE IN SOLITUDE FROM WORLDLY CONCERNS
4. Oroasoer
}
#65 CE <--- Apostle Paul as prisoner in Rome to see Emperor Nero
"And when it was determined that we should sail into Italy, they
delivered Paul and certain other prisoners unto one named Julius, a
centurion of Augustus’ band.
And entering into a ship of Adramyttium {the court of death}, we
launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia {muddy; boggy}; one
Aristarchus {the best prince}, a Macedonian { burning; adoration} of
Thessalonica {victory against the Thessalians}, being with us. And the
next day we touched at Sidon {hunting; fishing; venison}. And Julius
{downy; soft and tender hair} courteously entreated Paul {small;
little}, and gave him liberty to go unto his friends to refresh himself.
And when we had launched from thence, we sailed under Cyprus {fair;
fairness}, because the winds were contrary. And when we had sailed over
the sea of Cilicia {which rolls or overturns} and Pamphylia {a nation
made up of every tribe}, we came to Myra {I flow; pour out; weep}, a
city of Lycia.
And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria {one who assists men}
sailing into Italy {abounding with calves or heifers}; and he put us
therein. And when we had sailed slowly many days, and scarce were come
over against Cnidus {age}, the wind not suffering us, we sailed under
Crete {carnal; fleshly}, over against Salmone {peaceable; perfect; he
that rewards}; And, hardly passing it, came unto a place which is called
The fair havens; nigh whereunto was the city of Lasea {thick; wise}. Now
when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because
the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, And said unto them,
Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not
only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives. Nevertheless the
centurion believed the master and the owner of the ship, more than those
things which were spoken by Paul." [Acts 27:1-(KJV)]
"For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom
I serve, Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar:
and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee." [Acts
27:23-24 (KJV)]
"And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria {one who
assists men}, which had wintered in the isle, whose *sign* was Castor
and Pollux.
According to Wikipedia: "In Greek and Roman mythology, Castor and Pollux
or Polydeuces were twin brothers, together known as the Dioskouri
(Dioscuri).
In Latin the twins are also known as the Gemini or Castores. When Castor
was killed, Pollux asked Zeus to let him share his own immortality with
his twin to keep them together, and they were transformed into the
constellation Gemini. The pair were regarded as the patrons of sailors,
to whom they appeared as St. Elmo's *fire*, and were also associated
with horsemanship.
The Dioscuri were regarded as helpers of humankind and held to be
patrons of travellers and of sailors in particular, who invoked them to
seek favourable winds.
Their role as horsemen and *boxers* *also* *led* *to* *them* *being*
*regarded* *as* *the* *patrons* *of* *athletes* *and* *athletic* *contests*.
They characteristically intervened at the moment of crisis, aiding those
who honoured or trusted them." [Wikipedia 2016: Castor_and_Pollux]
And landing at Syracuse {that draws violently}, we tarried there three
days. And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium
{rupture; fracture}: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came
the next day to Puteoli {sulphureous wells}: Where we found brethren,
and were desired to tarry with them seven days: and so we went toward
Rome {strength; power}. And from thence, when the brethren heard of us,
they came to meet us as far as Appiiforum, and The three taverns: whom
when Paul saw, he thanked God, and took courage.
And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the
captain of the guard: but Paul was suffered to dwell by himself with a
soldier that kept him.
And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the
Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men
and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or
customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into
the hands of the Romans.
Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was
no cause of death in me. But when the Jews spake against it, I was
constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my
nation of. For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you,
and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel {who prevails
with God} I am bound with this chain. And they said unto him, We neither
received letters out of Judaea { the praise of the Lord; confession}
concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came showed or spake
any harm of thee. But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for
as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his
lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God,
persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses {taken
out; drawn forth}, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that
Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias {the
salvation of the Lord} the prophet unto our fathers, Saying,
'Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not
understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of
this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and
hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be
converted, and I should heal them. Be it known therefore unto you, that
the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.'
And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great
reasoning among themselves.
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all
that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those
things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man
forbidding him." [Acts 28:11-31 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #404
#4, #300, #50, #10, #40 - dashen (H1879): 1) fat subst; 2) vigorous,
stalwart ones;
#6, #10, #6, #300, #10, #2, #10, #50, #10 - yashab (H3427): 1) to dwell,
remain, sit, abide; 10) to be inhabited; 100) to make to dwell; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to sit, sit down; 1a2) to be set; 1a3) to remain, stay; 1a4)
to dwell, have one's abode; 1b) (Niphal) to be inhabited; 1c) (Piel) to
set, place; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to sit; 1d2) to cause to abide,
set; 1d3) to cause to dwell; 1d4) to cause (cities) to be inhabited;
1d5) to marry (give an dwelling to); 1e) (Hophal);
#6, #40, #50, #8, #300 - nachash (H5172): 1) to practice divination,
divine, *observe signs*, learn by experience, diligently observe,
practice fortunetelling, take as an *omen*; 1a) (Piel); 1a1) to practice
divination; 1a2) to *observe* *the* *signs* or *omens*;
#6, #2, #50, #90, #6, #200, #10, #40 - natsar (H5341): 1) to guard,
watch, watch over, keep; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to watch, guard, keep; 1a2) to
preserve, guard from dangers; 1a3) to keep, observe, guard with
fidelity; 1a4) to guard, keep secret; 1a5) to be kept close, be
blockaded; 1a6) watchman (participle);
#20, #1, #300, #1, #30, #1, #30, #10, #1, #10 - katalalia (G2636): 1)
defamation, evil speaking;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #359
#6, #50, #8, #200, #90, #5 - charats (H2782): 1) to cut, sharpen,
decide, decree, determine, maim, move, be decisive, be mutilated; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to cut, mutilate; 1a2) to sharpen; 1a3) to decide; 1b)
(Niphal) to be decisive;
#300, #6, #3, #10, #40 - shagah (H7686): 1) to go astray, stray, err;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to err, stray; 1a2) to swerve, meander, reel, roll, be
intoxicated, err (in drunkenness); 1a3) to go astray (morally); 1a4) to
commit sin of ignorance or inadvertence, err (ignorantly); 1b) (Hiphil);
1b1) to lead astray; 1b2) to lead astray, mislead (mentally); 1b3) to
lead astray (morally);
#4, #5, #60, #10, #70, #10, #200 - dexios (G1188): 1) the right, the
right hand; 2) metaph.; 2a) a place of honour or authority;
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "The difficulty I have accepting this
Jesus fella as the son of god comes by way of folks always havin' to
humanize their deities.
I mean, if there actually were some extraordinary existence capable of
creating reality, do you think this [god] would be anthropomorphic?
In which case I have always preferred Buddha, if indeed I feel compelled
(for some odd reason) to believe in some supreme being, which I don't.
Remember, Buddha never said he was a god; he just said he was an
enlight[en]ed man.
Think about that stuff. "
dolf: "HETEROS (Satan and his Host of Angels) v's HOMOIOS (Godhead as
Divine Mind) Theory of Number:
Resistance is futile."
WEEDY: "I CHOSE YOU OUT OF THE WORLD"
JESUS' DEMAND IS UNEQUIVOCAL AND WITHOUT COMPROMISE. DO NOT LOVE THE
WORLD OR THE THINGS IN THE WORLD. IF ANY ONE LOVES THE WORLD, LOVE FOR
THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM:
"Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment
which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which
ye have heard from the beginning.
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him
and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now
shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in
darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the
light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that
hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth
not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath *blinded* his eyes.
I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you
for his name’s sake.
I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the
beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the
wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the
Father. I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that
is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye
are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the
wicked one. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all
that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And
the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will
of God abideth for ever.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we
know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of
us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that
they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because
ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that
denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the
Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that
acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in
you, which ye have heard from the beginning.
If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye
also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father." [1 John 2:7-24 (KJV)]
WE MUST MAKE A CHOICE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST GOD. DO YOU SEEK TO PLEASE
GOD IN ALL YOUR INTENTIONS, ACTIONS, AND RELATIONSHIPS?
LET THE HOLY SPIRIT FILL YOUR HEART AND MIND WITH THE LOVE AND TRUTH OF GOD:
"And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in
our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the
ungodly.
For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a
good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward
us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more
then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of
his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. And
not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by
whom we have now received the atonement.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when
there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam {earthy; red} to
Moses {taken out; drawn forth}, even over them that had not sinned after
the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that
was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.
For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of
God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath
abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the
gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is
of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which
receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign
in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to
condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came
upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man’s
disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall
many be made righteous." [Romans 5:5-19 (KJV)]
PRAYER: 'LORD JESUS, MAY THE *FIRE* OF YOUR LOVE FILL MY HEART WITH AN
EAGERNESS TO PLEASE YOU IN ALL THINGS.
MAY THERE BE NO RIVALS TO MY LOVE AND DEVOTION TO YOU WHO ARE MY ALL.'"
[June 9th - St. Ephrem of Edessa, Deacon, Doctor]
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Does this mean somebuddy (ie.
somebody) was in outer space (ie. *alien*) at the time of choosing?"
dolf: "How readest thou oh bastard son of Buddha?"
- dolf
Initial Post: @ Sabbath Day 11 June 2016 (0515 hrs AEST)
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>the dukester, American-American
--
>the dukester, American-American
--
Make a deal with The Devil
Nous: #63
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {Physician; cure}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
On 11/06/2016 08:25, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> In article <9fbvnn....@news.alt.net>, per...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>>>
>>> Nadegda wrote:
>>>>> Nomination: dolf for a George Pickett Memorial Trophy. Now
>>>>> he's gone beyond kooksoot threats to doxxing random people.
>>>>> That puts him down at the level of Fakey or so.
>>>
>>> vetoed
> Vetoe upheld and affirmed. Any further motions quashed.
-- My Reading for the Muhammad Ali Memorial
(c) 2016 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 11 June, 2016
Nous: #73
Time: 19:55 hrs
Date: 2016.1.19
Torah: #40 #90 #200 %81 = #6
Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching:H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {
1. HELPS HEAL THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified};
#15 CE <--- Augustus {increased, augmented} (Latin: Imperator Caesar
Divi Filius (ie. '*divine* *son*', or '*son* *of* *the* *divine*')
Augustus; 23 September 63 BCE-19 August 14 CE) was the founder of the
Roman Empire and its first Emperor, ruling from 27 BCE until his death
in 14 CE.
"And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus
{savior; deliverer} tarried behind in Jerusalem {vision of peace}; and
Joseph {increase; addition} and his mother knew not of it. But they,
supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and
they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem,
seeking him. And it came to pass, that after three days they found him
in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them,
and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his
understanding and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him,
'Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?
Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.'
And he said unto them, 'How is it that ye sought me? Wist ye not that I
must be about my Father’s business?'
And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen
or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}, and was subject unto
them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and
man." [Luke 2:43-52 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #373
#10, #300, #8, #50, #5 - shachah (H7812): 1) to bow down; 1a) (Qal) to
bow down; 1b) (Hiphil) to depress (fig); 1c) (Hithpael); 1c1) to bow
down, prostrate oneself; 1c1a) before superior in homage; 1c1b) before
God in worship; 1c1c) before false gods; 1c1d) before angel;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #325
#30, #5, #20, #10, #200, #50, #10 - nakar (H5234): 1) to recognise,
acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or treat as
foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to
distinguish, understand; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a)
(Niphal) to disguise oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign
(profane); 2b2) to misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) *to* *act* *as*
*alien*; 2c2) to disguise oneself;
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him all
the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, 'All this power will I give thee, and the
glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I
give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.'
And Jesus {savior; deliverer} answered and said unto him, 'Get thee
behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God, and him only shalt thou serve.'
And he brought him to Jerusalem {vision of peace}, and set him on a
pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, 'If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his
angels charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall
bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.'
And Jesus answering said unto him, 'It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the
Lord thy God.'
And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him
for a season.
And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee {wheel;
revolution}: and there went out a fame of him through all the region
round about.
And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came
to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen or set apart; separated; crowned;
sanctified}, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he
went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias {the
salvation of the Lord}. And when he had opened the book, he found the
place where it was written,
'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to
preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the *blind*, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach
the acceptable year of the Lord.'
And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat
down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened
on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture
fulfilled in your ears. And all bare him witness, and wondered at the
gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, 'Is not
this Joseph’s {increase; addition} son?'
And he said unto them, 'Ye will surely say unto me this proverb,
*Physician*, *heal* *thyself*: whatsoever we have heard done in
Capernaum {the field of repentance; city of comfort}, do also here in
thy country.'
And he said, Verily I say unto you, 'NO PROPHET IS ACCEPTED IN HIS OWN
COUNTRY.'" [Luke 4:5-24 (KJV)]
Nous: #3
Time: 20:15 hrs
Date: 2016.1.24
Torah: #6 #40 #2 %81 = #48
Dao: Political Prescriptions, Quietude
Tetra: #8 - Opposition
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Facies {God above all things} Alt: Anael {Ship of God} {
1. SERVES TO OBTAIN THE FRIENDSHIP OF A PERSON
2. ASTRONOMY & PHYSICS
3. THE SENSITIVITY OF THE HEART
4. Ptiau
}
#34 CE <--- Crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth in cira 33 CE
Will not God recompense you and your Roman church for their Christ
murdering, Hitler loving and lying deceiving tongue?
The 'Roman' Question: Is it justified to label the Roman Catholic Church
as 'Christ Murderers'?
Someone was responsible. She after all bears the same titles as
tributes and authorities of the Roman Caesar (ie. We have no King but
Caesar) who, then as a matter of Governance and religious belief, were
Christ murderers--then she having the same substance, is imputed guilt:
Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that
which is God's." [Luke 20:25]
"Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not
that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have *no* *power* *at* *all* *against*
*me*, *except* *it* *were* *given* *thee* *from* *above*: *therefore*
*he* *that* *delivered* *me* unto thee *hath* *the* *greater* *sin*.
And from thenceforth Pilate (ie. armed with a dart) sought to release
him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art
not Caesar’s friend: *whosoever* *maketh* *himself* *a* *king*
*speaketh* *against* *Caesar*." [John 19:10-12 (KJV)]
"Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that *they*
*which* *commit* *such* *things* *are* *worthy* *of* *death*, *not*
*only* *do* *the* *same*, but *have* *pleasure* *in* *them* *that* *do*
*them*." [Romans 1:31-32 (KJV)]
"Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it
is written in the books of the prophets, O ye house of Israel (ie. who
prevails with God), have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by
the space of forty years in the wilderness?
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch (ie. *king*), and the star of
your god Remphan (ie. prepared; arrayed), figures which ye made to
worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon (ie. incongruity;
confusion; mixture)." [Acts 7:42-43 (KJV)]
"Babylon is fallen." [Isaiah 21:9; Jeremiah 51:8; Revelation 14:8, 18:2
(KJV)]
So as to make their fall from God's Grace all the more dramatic and with
no capable means for redemption: "For it is impossible for those who
were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were
made partakers of the Holy Ghost.
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come.
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; *seeing*
*they* *crucify* *to* *themselves* *the* *Son* *of* *God* *afresh*, and
put him to open shame.
For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and
bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth
blessing from God:
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto
cursing, whose end-TELOS is burned.
But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that
accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which
ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints
and do minister.
And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the
full assurance of hope unto the end-TELOS: That ye be not slothful, but
followers of them through faith and patience inherit the promises."
[Hebrews 6:4-12 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #274
#6, #60, #200, #8 - cerach (H5629): 1) excess, overhanging;
#3, #5, #50, #5, #1, #10, #200 - genea (G1074): 1) fathered, birth,
nativity; 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a
family; 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time; 4) an age
(ie. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a
space of 30 - 33 years; 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the
successive members of a genealogy; 2b) metaph. a race of men very like
each other in endowments, pursuits, character; 2b1) esp. in a bad sense,
a perverse race;
#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10, #70, #50 - dokimion (G1383): 1) the
proving; 2) that by which something is tried or proved, a test;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #333
#30, #2, #100, #200, #1 - beqar (Aramaic) (H1240): 1) to seek, enquire;
1a) (Pael) to enquire; 1b) (Ithpael) to let search be made;
#6, #7, #200, #70, #10, #40 - zerowa` (H2220): 1) arm, forearm,
shoulder, strength; 1a) arm; 1b) arm (as symbol of strength); 1c) forces
(political and military); 1d) shoulder (of animal sacrificed);
#30, #5, #8, #200, #10, #40, #40 - charam (H2763): 1) to ban, devote,
destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction,
exterminate; 2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body); 1a)
(Hiphil); 1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban; 1a2) to consecrate,
devote, dedicate for destruction; 1a3) to exterminate, completely
destroy; 1b) (Hophal); 1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to
destruction; 1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited; 1b3) to be completely
destroyed; 2a) (Qal) to mutilate; 2b) (Hiphil) to divide;
Nous: #14
Time: 20:35 hrs
Date: 2016.1.29
Torah: #10 #5 #5 %81 = #20
Dao: Praising the Mysterious (Metaphysics)
Tetra: #9 - Branching Out
I-Ching: H19 - Approaching
Latin: Refugium {Supreme Being} Alt: Chamyah {In the Midst of God} {
1. HELPS OBTAIN WISDOM & KNOWLEDGE
2. PHILOSOPHERS & THE ENLIGHTENED
3. VIRTUE IN SOLITUDE FROM WORLDLY CONCERNS
4. Oroasoer
}
#65 CE <--- Apostle Paul as prisoner in Rome to see Emperor Nero
"And when it was determined that we should sail into Italy, they
delivered Paul and certain other prisoners unto one named Julius, a
centurion of Augustus’ band.
And entering into a ship of Adramyttium {the court of death}, we
launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia {muddy; boggy}; one
Aristarchus {the best prince}, a Macedonian { burning; adoration} of
Thessalonica {victory against the Thessalians}, being with us. And the
next day we touched at Sidon {hunting; fishing; venison}. And Julius
{downy; soft and tender hair} courteously entreated Paul {small;
little}, and gave him liberty to go unto his friends to refresh himself.
And when we had launched from thence, we sailed under Cyprus {fair;
fairness}, because the winds were contrary. And when we had sailed over
the sea of Cilicia {which rolls or overturns} and Pamphylia {a nation
made up of every tribe}, we came to Myra {I flow; pour out; weep}, a
city of Lycia.
And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria {one who assists men}
sailing into Italy {abounding with calves or heifers}; and he put us
therein. And when we had sailed slowly many days, and scarce were come
over against Cnidus {age}, the wind not suffering us, we sailed under
Crete {carnal; fleshly}, over against Salmone {peaceable; perfect; he
that rewards}; And, hardly passing it, came unto a place which is called
The fair havens; nigh whereunto was the city of Lasea {thick; wise}. Now
when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because
the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, And said unto them,
Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not
only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives. Nevertheless the
centurion believed the master and the owner of the ship, more than those
things which were spoken by Paul." [Acts 27:1-(KJV)]
"For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom
I serve, Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar:
and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee." [Acts
27:23-24 (KJV)]
"And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria {one who
assists men}, which had wintered in the isle, whose *sign* was Castor
and Pollux.
According to Wikipedia: "In Greek and Roman mythology, Castor and Pollux
or Polydeuces were twin brothers, together known as the Dioskouri
(Dioscuri).
In Latin the twins are also known as the Gemini or Castores. When Castor
was killed, Pollux asked Zeus to let him share his own immortality with
his twin to keep them together, and they were transformed into the
constellation Gemini. The pair were regarded as the patrons of sailors,
to whom they appeared as St. Elmo's *fire*, and were also associated
with horsemanship.
The Dioscuri were regarded as helpers of humankind and held to be
patrons of travellers and of sailors in particular, who invoked them to
seek favourable winds.
Their role as horsemen and *boxers* *also* *led* *to* *them* *being*
*regarded* *as* *the* *patrons* *of* *athletes* *and* *athletic* *contests*.
They characteristically intervened at the moment of crisis, aiding those
who honoured or trusted them." [Wikipedia 2016: Castor_and_Pollux]
And landing at Syracuse {that draws violently}, we tarried there three
days. And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium
{rupture; fracture}: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came
the next day to Puteoli {sulphureous wells}: Where we found brethren,
and were desired to tarry with them seven days: and so we went toward
Rome {strength; power}. And from thence, when the brethren heard of us,
they came to meet us as far as Appiiforum, and The three taverns: whom
when Paul saw, he thanked God, and took courage.
And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the
captain of the guard: but Paul was suffered to dwell by himself with a
soldier that kept him.
And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the
Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men
and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or
customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into
the hands of the Romans.
Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was
no cause of death in me. But when the Jews spake against it, I was
constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my
nation of. For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you,
and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel {who prevails
with God} I am bound with this chain. And they said unto him, We neither
received letters out of Judaea { the praise of the Lord; confession}
concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came showed or spake
any harm of thee. But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for
as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his
lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God,
persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses {taken
out; drawn forth}, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that
Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias {the
salvation of the Lord} the prophet unto our fathers, Saying,
'Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not
understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of
this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and
hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be
converted, and I should heal them. Be it known therefore unto you, that
the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.'
And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great
reasoning among themselves.
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all
that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those
things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man
forbidding him." [Acts 28:11-31 (KJV)]
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #404
#4, #300, #50, #10, #40 - dashen (H1879): 1) fat subst; 2) vigorous,
stalwart ones;
#6, #10, #6, #300, #10, #2, #10, #50, #10 - yashab (H3427): 1) to dwell,
remain, sit, abide; 10) to be inhabited; 100) to make to dwell; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to sit, sit down; 1a2) to be set; 1a3) to remain, stay; 1a4)
to dwell, have one's abode; 1b) (Niphal) to be inhabited; 1c) (Piel) to
set, place; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to sit; 1d2) to cause to abide,
set; 1d3) to cause to dwell; 1d4) to cause (cities) to be inhabited;
1d5) to marry (give an dwelling to); 1e) (Hophal);
#6, #40, #50, #8, #300 - nachash (H5172): 1) to practice divination,
divine, *observe signs*, learn by experience, diligently observe,
practice fortunetelling, take as an *omen*; 1a) (Piel); 1a1) to practice
divination; 1a2) to *observe* *the* *signs* or *omens*;
#6, #2, #50, #90, #6, #200, #10, #40 - natsar (H5341): 1) to guard,
watch, watch over, keep; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to watch, guard, keep; 1a2) to
preserve, guard from dangers; 1a3) to keep, observe, guard with
fidelity; 1a4) to guard, keep secret; 1a5) to be kept close, be
blockaded; 1a6) watchman (participle);
#20, #1, #300, #1, #30, #1, #30, #10, #1, #10 - katalalia (G2636): 1)
defamation, evil speaking;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #359
#6, #50, #8, #200, #90, #5 - charats (H2782): 1) to cut, sharpen,
decide, decree, determine, maim, move, be decisive, be mutilated; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to cut, mutilate; 1a2) to sharpen; 1a3) to decide; 1b)
(Niphal) to be decisive;
#300, #6, #3, #10, #40 - shagah (H7686): 1) to go astray, stray, err;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to err, stray; 1a2) to swerve, meander, reel, roll, be
intoxicated, err (in drunkenness); 1a3) to go astray (morally); 1a4) to
commit sin of ignorance or inadvertence, err (ignorantly); 1b) (Hiphil);
1b1) to lead astray; 1b2) to lead astray, mislead (mentally); 1b3) to
lead astray (morally);
#4, #5, #60, #10, #70, #10, #200 - dexios (G1188): 1) the right, the
right hand; 2) metaph.; 2a) a place of honour or authority;
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "The difficulty I have accepting this
Jesus fella as the son of god comes by way of folks always havin' to
humanize their deities.
I mean, if there actually were some extraordinary existence capable of
creating reality, do you think this [god] would be anthropomorphic?
In which case I have always preferred Buddha, if indeed I feel compelled
(for some odd reason) to believe in some supreme being, which I don't.
Remember, Buddha never said he was a god; he just said he was an
enlight[en]ed man.
Think about that stuff. "
dolf: "HETEROS (Satan and his Host of Angels) v's HOMOIOS (Godhead as
Divine Mind) Theory of Number:
Resistance is futile."
WEEDY: "I CHOSE YOU OUT OF THE WORLD"
JESUS' DEMAND IS UNEQUIVOCAL AND WITHOUT COMPROMISE. DO NOT LOVE THE
WORLD OR THE THINGS IN THE WORLD. IF ANY ONE LOVES THE WORLD, LOVE FOR
THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM:
"Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment
which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which
ye have heard from the beginning.
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him
and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now
shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in
darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the
light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that
hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth
not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath *blinded* his eyes.
I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you
for his name’s sake.
I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the
beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the
wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the
Father. I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that
is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye
are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the
wicked one. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all
that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And
the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will
of God abideth for ever.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we
know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of
us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that
they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because
ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that
denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the
Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that
acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in
you, which ye have heard from the beginning.
If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye
also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father." [1 John 2:7-24 (KJV)]
WE MUST MAKE A CHOICE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST GOD. DO YOU SEEK TO PLEASE
GOD IN ALL YOUR INTENTIONS, ACTIONS, AND RELATIONSHIPS?
LET THE HOLY SPIRIT FILL YOUR HEART AND MIND WITH THE LOVE AND TRUTH OF GOD:
"And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in
our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the
ungodly.
For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a
good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward
us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more
then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath
through him.
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of
his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. And
not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by
whom we have now received the atonement.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when
there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam {earthy; red} to
Moses {taken out; drawn forth}, even over them that had not sinned after
the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that
was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift.
For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of
God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath
abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the
gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is
of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which
receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign
in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to
condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came
upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man’s
disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall
many be made righteous." [Romans 5:5-19 (KJV)]
PRAYER: 'LORD JESUS, MAY THE *FIRE* OF YOUR LOVE FILL MY HEART WITH AN
EAGERNESS TO PLEASE YOU IN ALL THINGS.
MAY THERE BE NO RIVALS TO MY LOVE AND DEVOTION TO YOU WHO ARE MY ALL.'"
[June 9th - St. Ephrem of Edessa, Deacon, Doctor]
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Does this mean somebuddy (ie.
somebody) was in outer space (ie. *alien*) at the time of choosing?"
dolf: "How readest thou oh bastard son of Buddha?"
- dolf
Initial Post: @ Sabbath Day 11 June 2016 (0515 hrs AEST)
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 10, 2016, 7:34:53 PM6/10/16
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In article <njepc8$mk7$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Are you saying I'm the government?
wrote:
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 7:44:58 PM6/10/16
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Nous: #63
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
YOUTUBE CLIP: DUNE - ALIA OF THE KNIFE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEyluHxD6o
"Paul rises to leadership through military strategy and political
maneuvering, but his superhuman powers and ability to fit himself into
pre-existing religious infrastructure allow him to force himself upon
mankind as their messiah." [Wikipedia 2016:Paul_Atreides]
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
2016 (AEST)
-
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=468374840023024&id=100005515364934
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 10, 2016, 7:48:58 PM6/10/16
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Barry Heisenberg asked:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>
> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> NonStampCollector
>
> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Gordon
Jun 10, 2016, 10:01:36 PM6/10/16
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God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
placed upon Himself. Gordon
>
>>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
>
>God did make us as puppets unable to choose our personality.
>
>>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
>
>It does.
>
>>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>>any further. Gordon
>
>Are you sure God is unable to infuse us with that knowledge from
>the beginning?
>
Maybe from God's time frame this whole mortal phase was/is just an
>>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
>
>God did make us as puppets unable to choose our personality.
>
>>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
>
>It does.
>
>>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>>any further. Gordon
>
>Are you sure God is unable to infuse us with that knowledge from
>the beginning?
>
instant but from our time frame perspective it is taking a very long
while to develop and mature as needed. Gordon
Gordon
Jun 10, 2016, 10:05:34 PM6/10/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
therefore could never be refined to a perfect state. We are now going
through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>
>>the dukester, American-American
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>>NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>>us.
>>>>
>>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>>That's exactly why we see the BO's of the world.
>
>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>
Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>>NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>>us.
>>>>
>>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>>That's exactly why we see the BO's of the world.
>
>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>
creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
therefore could never be refined to a perfect state. We are now going
through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>
>>the dukester, American-American
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 10:10:57 PM6/10/16
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
>>
>>God did make us as puppets unable to choose our personality.
>>
>>>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
>>
>>It does.
>>
>>>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>>>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>>>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>>>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>>>any further. Gordon
>>
>>Are you sure God is unable to infuse us with that knowledge from
>>the beginning?
>>
>Maybe from God's time frame this whole mortal phase was/is just an
>instant but from our time frame perspective it is taking a very long
>while to develop and mature as needed. Gordon
Are you suggesting God treats us like shit because he does
not understand us?
to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>Pre-programming us as puppets would restrict our sovereignty.
>>
>>God did make us as puppets unable to choose our personality.
>>
>>>Intimidating us into compliance would also restrict our sovereignty.
>>
>>It does.
>>
>>>The only way God could accomplish his goal with us was to let us go
>>>through this hands-on learning phase wherein we will individually and
>>>collectively learn enough about all the vagaries of sin and rebellion
>>>to assure God that NONE of us will EVER want to go back and explore it
>>>any further. Gordon
>>
>>Are you sure God is unable to infuse us with that knowledge from
>>the beginning?
>>
>Maybe from God's time frame this whole mortal phase was/is just an
>instant but from our time frame perspective it is taking a very long
>while to develop and mature as needed. Gordon
not understand us?
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 10, 2016, 10:16:08 PM6/10/16
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
heaven when we die.
>We are now going
>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
things.
If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
heaven when we die.
>We are now going
>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
things.
Rod
Jun 10, 2016, 10:18:01 PM6/10/16
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Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 4:25:26 AM6/11/16
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In article <o8smlb550ql0g1eil...@4ax.com>,
Do you not understand how incredibly fucking stupid that is?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 4:28:26 AM6/11/16
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In article <njfsco$686$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com>
Nobody can suppress anybody's right of free speech except the
government. Why don't you know that?
government. Why don't you know that?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 4:56:25 AM6/11/16
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In article <hlwdjsd2-E2F838...@news.giganews.com>,
I forgot to mention that I knew Rod-boy would post some stupid insult
and prove how clueless he is about our Constitution. I just knew it.
and prove how clueless he is about our Constitution. I just knew it.
Gordon
Jun 11, 2016, 8:07:55 AM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
all forms of sin. Gordon
a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
all forms of sin. Gordon
Gordon
Jun 11, 2016, 8:11:12 AM6/11/16
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when I was a kid. Later on, as a young adult, Army officers and upper
level staff also suppressed my free speech. Gordon
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 9:25:15 AM6/11/16
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In article <flvnlbl7k2tkcqncm...@4ax.com>,
You know what you sound like, Gordo? You know how when you go to work in
some kind of sweets shop (candy, ice cream, doughnuts, whatever) they
will often tell you to sample the wares as much as you want. In short
time, you eat so much of it that you're thoroughly sick of it and never
want to sample again.
You're telling us that your god wants us to commit as many sins as
possible until we get sick of them. You're actually that stupid, aren't
you?
some kind of sweets shop (candy, ice cream, doughnuts, whatever) they
will often tell you to sample the wares as much as you want. In short
time, you eat so much of it that you're thoroughly sick of it and never
want to sample again.
You're telling us that your god wants us to commit as many sins as
possible until we get sick of them. You're actually that stupid, aren't
you?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 9:35:39 AM6/11/16
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In article <jpvnlbhubnmdrcs3l...@4ax.com>,
So fucking what?
Your speech wasn't suppressed in the Army because the contract you
signed when you joined up gave your permission to have certain of your
normal rights suspended.
Your speech wasn't suppressed in the Army because the contract you
signed when you joined up gave your permission to have certain of your
normal rights suspended.
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 11, 2016, 9:49:16 AM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
from the start.
wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>
>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>
>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>all forms of sin. Gordon
No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>
>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>
>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>all forms of sin. Gordon
from the start.
Gordon
Jun 11, 2016, 10:02:58 AM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:49:47 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
presently going through may seem very long and tedious to us, from our
time perspective but it may be only an instant on God's time scale.
Gordon
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>
>>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
>>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>>
>>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>
>>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>>all forms of sin. Gordon
>
>No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
>from the start.
>
On God's time scale, eternity, or on out time scale? That which we are
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>
>>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
>>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>>
>>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>
>>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>>all forms of sin. Gordon
>
>No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
>from the start.
>
presently going through may seem very long and tedious to us, from our
time perspective but it may be only an instant on God's time scale.
Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 11, 2016, 10:11:47 AM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:02:55 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>That which we are presently going through may seem very long and
>tedious to us, from our time perspective but it may be only an instant
>on God's time scale.
Exactly! So God needs to learn what matters to us.
>Gordon
wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:49:47 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
>>>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>>>
>>>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>>
>>>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>>>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>>>all forms of sin. Gordon
>>
>>No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
>>from the start.
>>
>On God's time scale, eternity, or on out time scale?
Our time scale of course!
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:49:47 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
>>>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
>>>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
>>>>
>>>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
>>>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
>>>>
>>>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
>>>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
>>>all forms of sin. Gordon
>>
>>No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
>>from the start.
>>
>On God's time scale, eternity, or on out time scale?
>That which we are presently going through may seem very long and
>tedious to us, from our time perspective but it may be only an instant
>on God's time scale.
>Gordon
Gordon
Jun 11, 2016, 12:28:13 PM6/11/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:12:21 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
More specifically, we NEED to learn what matters to God. And
pre-programming us as puppets would not have provided for our absolute
sovereignty that He wants us to mature to. Gordon
pre-programming us as puppets would not have provided for our absolute
sovereignty that He wants us to mature to. Gordon
MattB
Jun 11, 2016, 2:58:43 PM6/11/16
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:57:04 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 6/9/2016 5:15 PM, % wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>
> he is telling a basic truth among Christians,
> not recruiting those like you. You seem to have
> missed the boat. If you have refused the gospel once
> and other christians know this, and I am sure that
> I have seen you do this; we no longer are required
> to seek you out nor care what becomes of you.
Yes Rod is one of those Catholics.
"The bliss of the elect in heaven would not be perfect unless they
were able to look across the abyss and enjoy the agonies of their
brethren in eternal fire."
Pope Gregory I
You see in Rods teaching his view of Heaven will have a stage where
the saved can watch and enjoy the suffering of people for all
eternity. A fundies true heaven.
>On 6/9/2016 5:15 PM, % wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>> NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>> Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>> us.
>>>>
>>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>> A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>> NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>> Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>> Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>> us.
>>>>
>>> Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>> much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>> God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>> prove it
>>> much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>> God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>
> he is telling a basic truth among Christians,
> not recruiting those like you. You seem to have
> missed the boat. If you have refused the gospel once
> and other christians know this, and I am sure that
> I have seen you do this; we no longer are required
> to seek you out nor care what becomes of you.
Yes Rod is one of those Catholics.
"The bliss of the elect in heaven would not be perfect unless they
were able to look across the abyss and enjoy the agonies of their
brethren in eternal fire."
Pope Gregory I
You see in Rods teaching his view of Heaven will have a stage where
the saved can watch and enjoy the suffering of people for all
eternity. A fundies true heaven.
duke
Jun 11, 2016, 3:14:00 PM6/11/16
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duke
Jun 11, 2016, 3:15:50 PM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
you go to heaven, and if you fail to turn away from satan, it's the fires for
you.
wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>>NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>>us.
>>>>
>>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>>That's exactly why we see the BO's of the world.
>
>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
The key word is "allowed". Satan tempts you and you win or fail. If you win,
>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:53:57 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 19:13:09 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>>
>>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>>NonStampCollector
>>>>
>>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>>
>>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>>us.
>>>>
>>>Satan is still very active among all of us and he has introduced as
>>>much confusion as he is capable of, intending to turn some away from
>>>God by reason of this confusion. Gordon
>>
>>That's exactly why we see the BO's of the world.
>
>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
you go to heaven, and if you fail to turn away from satan, it's the fires for
you.
duke
Jun 11, 2016, 3:17:28 PM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>heaven when we die.
More like hell.
>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>heaven when we die.
>
>>We are now going
>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>
>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>things.
You're experiencing yours now.
>>We are now going
>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>
>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>things.
MattB
Jun 11, 2016, 3:26:58 PM6/11/16
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dolf
Jun 11, 2016, 3:30:49 PM6/11/16
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dolf: "FOUND TO BE LIARS!
O ye Corinthians {which is satisfied; ornament; beauty}, our mouth is
open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
Now for a recompense in the same, (I speak as unto my children), be ye
also enlarged. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for
what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with *darkness*?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell
in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,
and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a
Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty." [2 Corinthians 6:11-18 (KJV)]
dolf: "The entire world knows that they also have hated us without a
cause--thusly the word the Lord Jesus Christ is fulfilled: "All the ends
of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds
of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go
down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own
soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that
shall be born, that he hath done this." [Psalm 22:27-31 (KJV)]
Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme f@ckhead (*BUNGHOLE*): "Buddha was a
fat, old, prick who never worked. Just sat around making philosophical
comments and pottering around in his cucumber patch. Hmmmm....I wonder
if he has a modern contemporary? LOL!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "When this fella became Buddha he was
still fairly young. I would consult my history books to know the
approximate date of his enlightenment.
Buddha came from a wealthy family, but he renounced it all and became
impoverished. I know because I have extensive historical knowledge."
Blue Peeler (wo...@barque.org): "Anybody with a 'life' like yours (twenty
years on Usenet, around the clock) is definitely SUBhuman!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Thank you, Mister Peeler, for
clearing that up."
Checkmate, DoW #1 (Lunatic...@The.Edge): "Everybody wants to think
their particular brand of god looks out for us. I see absolutely no
evidence of that anywhere. A scientist looks out for lab rats more than
the various gods look out for us."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Yes, I surely agree with that."
dolf: "Physician Heal Thyself!
Your comments are nonsense oh bastard son of Buddha."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf? You seem a little upset about
something. Care to talk about it?
I'm here for you if you need me, Dolf.
My Nam (ie. Vietnam) Tour taught me to be there for my men."
dolf: "They are presumptive, arrogant comments which you are now making,
in feeling smug by only responding to my preliminary narrative for the
Ali Muhammad's memorial service posted at 0515 hours (AEST) and just
prior to its commencement and which required a further 12 hours of
labour to conclude.
It unambiguously shows a higher Divine power of God the Father (YHWH)
and the Son (Jesus of Nazareth) as Intelligence (ie. Godhead) at play in
the affairs of humankind from eternity and the cosmological foundations
of when the world began."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf, Buddha tried to find
enlightenment through deprivation of worldly goods, including food,
practicing self-mortification. After nearly starving himself to death
by restricting his food intake to around a leaf or nut per day, he
collapsed in a river while bathing and almost drowned. Buddha was
rescued by a village girl named Sujata, who gave him some payasam (a
pudding made from milk and jaggery), after which he got back some
energy. Then Buddha began to reconsider his path. He remembered a
moment in childhood in which he had been watching his father start the
season's ploughing. He attained a concentrated and focused state that
was blissful and refreshing, the jhana (ie. a series of cultivated
states of mind, which lead to 'state of perfect equanimity').
Now Dolf, in yer opinion, did this young, nubile [village girl] give The
Buddha anything else that may have [refreshed] him? Hmmm?
And remember Dolf, The Buddha said, 'You will not be punished for your
anger, you will be punished by your anger.' Amen."
dolf: "Anger?
I'm laughing at you in my having as an Intellectual Property, a
mathematical paradigm as a metaphysical theoretical noumenon and a
determined contrivance associated with attributed time, rationality and
the reasoned mind:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² : arch kai telos oida {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}
Where the c² is equivalent to a constant dependent on n, calculated by
the formula:
M = [n(n² + 1)] / 2
It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old,
but rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a
noumenal focal point as a development by which rationality transpires,
reason springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:
HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product*
*of* *two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]
As the relativity and grounding of the Infinite to the temporal reality
(ie. the phenomenology as the deterministic unfolding of history) which
is implied by the notion of rational PI and the cosmogonical reprise of
the lunar / solar cycle occurring on the equinox of Wednesday 20th March
1996 / New Moon on Thursday 21st March 1996.
"And having spoiled PRINCIPALITIES (arche: [properly abstract] a
commencement, or [concrete] chief in various applications of order,
time, place or rank:--beginning, corner, at the first estate,
magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule)
and POWERS, (exousia: [in the sense of ability]; privilege, that is,
[subjectively] force, capacity, competency, freedom, or [objectively]
mastery [concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of
control], delegated influence:--authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power,
right, strength)
HE (ie. Jesus of Nazareth) made a show of them openly, triumphing over
them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an
holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow
of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a VOLUNTARY (ie. subjective
impulse; subjective impulse; asceticism)
HUMILITY (tapeinophrosune: humiliation of mind, that is,
modesty:--humbleness of mind, humility of mind, lowliness of mind)
and WORSHIPPING (ie. ceremonial observance:--religion) OF *ANGELS*,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by
his FLESHY MIND (nous: the intellect, that is, mind [divine or human; in
thought, feeling, or will]; by implication meaning:--mind, *understanding*),
and not holding the Head (kephale: [in the sense of seizing]; the head
as the part most readily taken hold of, literally or figuratively:--head
but meaning 'theiotes' as divinity [abstractly]:—Godhead),
from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment
ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the RUDIMENTS (stoicheion:
something orderly in arrangement: Theory of Number (1 ... 10), that is
[by implication] a serial basal, fundamental, initial constituent: #15
... #369; [literally], proposition [figuratively]:--element, principle,
rudiment)
OF THE WORLD (kosmos: orderly arrangement, that is a decoration; by
implication the world [in a wide or narrow sense, including its
inhabitants, literally or figuratively or morally]:—adorning, world),
why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch
not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility,
and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the
flesh." [Colossians 2:15-23 (KJV)]
As you are without any foundation and have the moral scruples of a dag
festering maggot--racist that you are.
What is your military service number slyboots?
Eat shit (ie. an exclamation expressing anger or contempt for, or
rejection of, someone)."
Matt (trdell12345): "You need to read you[r] Roman Catholic Church
fundie buddies post [concerning the real history of the evil Roman
Catholic Church]. They seem to believe they and the Roman Catholic
Church have the right to Judge a person's salvation.
[The] Bible says only God [can]. Why do you reject the Bible and
replace it with Roman Catholic Church Dogma?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "He's never done such things. You're the
one that keeps trying to do that.
Why don't you stop and learn for once."
Matt (trdell12345): "Don't [you] think? So you have Roman Catholic
Church brainwashing backed up with lies."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "Well, you're none of the above so I don't
expect you to *understand*."
Dechucka: "No reason, but the facts are there."
Patrick (Catholic) Barker: "No facts. Why should I believe your whiney
theory?"
Matt (trdell12345): "Well you have that right I am not brainwashed and I
am not Roman Catholic Church."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "That's right. You were rejected, weren't
you. But, I tried to help you."
Matt (trdell12345): "You don't have the authority to reject. Did St.
Patrick Church give you that authority or claim to?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If you were rejected, somebody did."
dolf: "Hey wet biscuit, how does it feel knowing that both you Duke
(Catholic) Earl Weber and your Roman Catholic Church have been rejected
by God the Father and his Son?
Eat shit all of you."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If in doubt, discuss with a priest.
Being constantly pounded with crap does not make one a bad guy for
hitting back (within reason).
After all, we human and not Jesus Christ.
It's the old turn the c[h]eek issue - to avoid revenge."
Michael Christ: "Yes, well I have to repent sometime..."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: ""You lack the common sense to know you've
been defeated."
Ordog Mephisto Belphegor Lucifer Satan (Belp...@Hell.biz) :"Liar!
Writing endless garbage drivel is no indication of your reading [and
comprehension] skills.
Stop faking [these] post[s], Dolf. Your parents [would be] ashamed of you.
Keep this up and you'll be haunted by punishing wraiths (ie. as wraths)
till the end of your living days!"
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "Did God freely choose to create
Satan as Lucifer Morningstar.?"
Gordon (gordonlr@swbell): "Yes, and the reason for this and other such
dolf: "This chapter has been especially written in support and
recognition of Queen Elizabeth's II 90th birthday celebrations and Her
consort Prince Philip's 95th birthday.
As they claim to honorably swear: DIEU ET MON DROIT [ie. God and my
right (the motto of the British monarch)].
Those specific readings were associated to computed 'Categories of
*Understanding*' (ie. SUPER (MALE) IDEA and EGO (FEMALE) IDEA) and
obtained by means of my intellectual property (as a natural endowment)
associated to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as a theoretical and
metaphysical concept of the Godhead/Divine Mind--there is no pretense.
It is a comparison between the chronological placement of the series:
#15 ... #34 ... #65 of the progression of Magic Squares associated with
the traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS basis to the Theory of
Number as a binary apparatus (ie. gender and spermatic attributions) and
the institutional basis for sacred marriage, attributed time as the
Celestial Hierarchy which is common to Judaism, Roman Catholicism et al
Christian communities, Masonry and Islamic religious belief and Roman
Empire governance.
I HAVE SHOWN IT TO BE A PERVERSE *SECRET* KNOWLEDGE, FAUX-PIETY AND A
FRAUDULENT CLAIM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS!
And my considered, rational and reasonable paradigm which subsumes this
traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS view of the Theory of Number
with its reliant use of a progression of magic squares: #15 ... #369 by
using 7 x #369 magic squares with the 1st being the Greco-Roman magic
square.
And amalgamated this with the 9th autonomous layer comprising the
Chinese Daoist array as an alternative HOMOIOS (published in 4 BCE) view
of the Theory of Number since both were esoteric, metaphysical and
cosmological views of attributed time used for respective (Roman and
Chinese) Empire governance. In addition to this array I have added an
8th as Transformative layer as a hetero-square spirogyra order square.
Such that the #369 (9x9) Magic Square utilized by either of the
religious belief systems, will find it deployed within one of the seven
x #369 magic squares.
You show neither dignity or respect for the dead nor our Sovereign.
What better, than some theatrical action with Satan making a perverse
and depraved appearance:
'Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is so written...'"
- dolf
Facebook Post: "My Reading for the Muhammad Ali Memorial" of 11 June
2016 (AEST)
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=468374840023024&id=100005515364934
Nous: #73
Time: 19:55 hrs
Date: 2016.1.19
Torah: #40 #90 #200 %81 = #6
Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {
1. HELPS *HEAL* THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified};
#15 CE <--- Augustus {increased, augmented} (Latin: Imperator Caesar
Divi Filius (ie. '*divine* *son*', or '*son* *of* *the* *divine*')
Augustus; 23 September 63 BCE-19 August 14 CE) was the founder of the
Roman Empire and its first Emperor, ruling from 27 BCE until his death
in 14 CE.
"And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus
{savior; deliverer} tarried behind in Jerusalem {vision of peace}; and
Joseph {increase; addition} and his mother knew not of it. But they,
supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and
they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem,
seeking him. And it came to pass, that after three days they found him
in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them,
and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his
*understanding* and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him,
'Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?
Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.'
And he said unto them, 'How is it that ye sought me?
Wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?'
And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen
or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}, and was subject unto
them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and
man." [Luke 2:43-52 (KJV)]
#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10, #70, #50 - dokimion (G1383): 1) the
proving; 2) that by which something is tried or proved, a test;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #333
#30, #2, #100, #200, #1 - beqar (Aramaic) (H1240): 1) to seek, enquire;
1a) (Pael) to enquire; 1b) (Ithpael) to let search be made;
#6, #7, #200, #70, #10, #40 - zerowa` (H2220): 1) arm, forearm,
shoulder, strength; 1a) arm; 1b) arm (as symbol of strength); 1c) forces
(political and military); 1d) shoulder (of animal sacrificed);
#30, #5, #8, #200, #10, #40, #40 - charam (H2763): 1) to ban, devote,
destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction,
exterminate; 2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body); 1a)
(Hiphil); 1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban; 1a2) to consecrate,
devote, dedicate for destruction; 1a3) to exterminate, completely
destroy; 1b) (Hophal); 1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to
destruction; 1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited; 1b3) to be completely
destroyed; 2a) (Qal) to mutilate; 2b) (Hiphil) to divide;
heart, I am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.' [Revelation 18:7 (KJV)])
within her sovereign city-state bearing the same titles as tributes and
*perverting* the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar,
saying that he himself is Christ a King.'
And Pilate {armed with a dart} asked him, saying, 'Art thou the King of
the Jews?'
And he answered him and said, 'Thou sayest it.'" [Luke 23:2-3 (KJV)]
"Then saith Pilate {armed with a dart} unto him, Speakest thou not unto
certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set
all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason {he that
*cures*}, and sought to bring them out to the people.
And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto
the rulers of the city, crying, 'These that have *turned* *the* *world*
*upside* *down* *are* *come* *hither* *also*; Whom Jason hath received:
and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is
another king, one Jesus'.
And they troubled the people and the rulers of the city, when they heard
these things. And when they had taken security of Jason, and of the
other, they let them go.
And the brethren immediately sent away Paul {small; little} and Silas
{three, or the third} by night unto Berea {heavy; weighty}: who coming
thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica {victory against the
Thessalians}, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,
and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." [Acts
17:5-11 (KJV)]
Emperor Nero
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #404
#4, #300, #50, #10, #40 - dashen (H1879): 1) fat subst; 2) vigorous,
stalwart ones;
#6, #10, #6, #300, #10, #2, #10, #50, #10 - yashab (H3427): 1) to dwell,
remain, sit, abide; 10) to be inhabited; 100) to make to dwell; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to sit, sit down; 1a2) to be set; 1a3) to remain, stay; 1a4)
to dwell, have one's abode; 1b) (Niphal) to be inhabited; 1c) (Piel) to
set, place; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to sit; 1d2) to cause to abide,
set; 1d3) to cause to dwell; 1d4) to cause (cities) to be inhabited;
1d5) to marry (give an dwelling to); 1e) (Hophal);
#6, #40, #50, #8, #300 - nachash (H5172): 1) to practice divination,
divine, *observe signs*, learn by experience, diligently observe,
practice fortunetelling, take as an *omen*; 1a) (Piel); 1a1) to practice
divination; 1a2) to *observe* *the* *signs* or *omens*;
#6, #2, #50, #90, #6, #200, #10, #40 - natsar (H5341): 1) to guard,
watch, watch over, keep; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to watch, guard, keep; 1a2) to
preserve, guard from dangers; 1a3) to keep, observe, guard with
fidelity; 1a4) to guard, keep *secret*; 1a5) to be kept close, be
named Julius {downy; soft and tender hair}, a centurion of Augustus'
{increased, augmented} band.
And entering into a ship of Adramyttium {the court of death}, we
launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia {muddy; boggy}; one
Aristarchus {the best prince}, a Macedonian { burning; adoration} of
Thessalonica {victory against the Thessalians}, being with us. And the
next day we touched at Sidon {hunting; fishing; venison}. And Julius
courteously entreated Paul, and gave him liberty to go unto his friends
*am*, *and* *whom* *I* *serve*, saying, 'Fear not, Paul; thou must be
some circumstances, from tall, sharply pointed structures such as
lightning rods, masts, spires and chimneys, and on aircraft wings or
nose cones. St. Elmo's fire can also appear on leaves and grass, and
even at the tips of cattle horns. Often accompanying the glow is a
distinct hissing or buzzing sound. It is sometimes confused with ball
lightning.
In 1751, Benjamin Franklin hypothesized that a pointed iron rod would
light up at the tip during a lightning storm, similar in appearance to
St. Elmo's fire.
The Dioscuri were regarded as helpers of humankind and held to be
patrons of travellers and of sailors in particular, who invoked them to
seek favourable winds.
Their role as horsemen and *boxers* *also* *led* *to* *them* *being*
*regarded* *as* *the* *patrons* *of* *athletes* *and* *athletic*
*contests*.
They characteristically intervened at the moment of crisis, aiding those
who honoured or trusted them." [Wikipedia 2016: Castor_and_Pollux,
St._Elmo's_fire]
*understand*; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart
#30, #8, #200, #9, #40, #10, #40 - chartom (H2748): 1) diviner,
magician, astrologer; 1a) engraver, writer (only in derivative sense of
one possessed of occult knowledge);
"Then the magicians {chartom-magician [H2748]: #337} said unto Pharaoh
{that disperses; that spoils}, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's
heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had
said." [Exodus 8:19]
#2, #8, #300, #6, #20, #1 - chashowk (Aramaic) (H2816): 1) *darkness*;
#30, #50, #7, #200, #10, #40 - naziyr (H5139): 1) consecrated or devoted
one, Nazarite; 1a) consecrated one; 1b) devotee, Nazarite; 1c) untrimmed
(vine);
#30, #300, #6, #1 - shav' (H7723): 1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood; 1a)
emptiness, nothingness, vanity; 1b) emptiness of speech, lying; 1c)
worthlessness (of conduct);
#50, #1, #7, #1, #100, #8, #50, #70, #50 - Nazarenos (G3479): 1) a
resident of Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen or set apart; separated;
crowned; sanctified};
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "The difficulty I have accepting this
Jesus fella as the son of god comes by way of folks always havin' to
humanize their deities.
I mean, if there actually were some extraordinary existence capable of
creating reality, do you think this [god] would be anthropomorphic?
In which case I have always preferred Buddha, if indeed I feel compelled
(for some odd reason) to believe in some *Supreme Being*, which I don't.
Remember, Buddha never said he was a god; he just said he was an
enlight[en]ed man.
Think about that stuff. "
dolf: "HETEROS (Satan and his Host of *Angels*) v's HOMOIOS (Godhead as
knoweth not whither he goeth, because that *darkness* hath *blinded* his
EGO (FEMALE): #474
#100, #4, #10, #300, #10, #50 - qaddiysh (Aramaic) (H6922): 1) holy,
separate; 2) (TWOT) *angels*, saints;
"This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the
word of the holy {qaddiysh (Aramaic)-saint [H6922]: #474} ones: to the
intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom
of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the
basest of men." [Daniel 4:17]
#6, #8, #400, #20, #40 - chath (H2844): 1) fear, terror; 2) shattered,
dismayed; 2a) shattered; 2b) dismayed;
#8, #200, #5, #2, #8, #200, #1, #50 - asebeo (G764): 1) to be ungodly,
act impiously;
#3, #50, #70, #50, #300, #1 - ginosko (G1097): 1) to learn to know, come
to know, get a knowledge of perceive, feel; 2) to know, *understand*,
perceive, have knowledge of; 3) Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse
between a man and a woman; 4) to become acquainted with, to know; 1a) to
become known; 2a) to *understand*; 2b) to know;
#9, #5, #30, #70, #50, #300, #10 - thelo (G2309): 1) to will, have in
mind, intend; 1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose; 1b) to
desire, to wish; 1c) to love; 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of
doing; 1d) to take delight in, have pleasure;
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Does this mean somebuddy (ie.
somebody) was in outer space (ie. *alien*) at the time of choosing?"
dolf: "How readest thou oh bastard son of Buddha?"
WEEDY: "THOSE WHO KEPT MY WORD: 'Ye have not chosen me, but I have
chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit,
and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the
Father in my name, he may give it you. These things I command you, that
ye love one another.
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye
are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore
the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, 'The servant is not greater than
his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if
they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.'
But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because
they know not him that sent me.
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now
they have no cloak for their sin.
He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they
had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my
Father.
But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is
written in their law, 'THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE.'
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he
shall testify of me:
And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the
beginning." [John 15:16-27 (KJV)]
IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN THE LIGHT OF GOD'S TRUTH, HOW CAN WE RIGHTLY
DISTINGUISH GOOD FROM EVIL AND TRUTH FROM DECEPTION? TRUE LOVE OF GOD
AND HIS WAYS DRAW US TO ALL THAT IS LOVELY, TRUTHFUL AND GOOD. IF WE
TRULY LOVE GOD THEN WE WILL SUBMIT TO HIS TRUTH AND OBEY HIS WORD.
A FRIEND OF GOD CANNOT EXPECT TO BE A FRIEND OF THE WORLD BECAUSE THE
WORLD IS OPPOSED TO GOD'S TRUTH AND WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
INVOKING: John Dominici de Banchini was born in Florence, Italy, 1376
(or 1350?); died in Hungary 1419; cultus confirmed in 1832; beatified in
1837 by Pope Gregory XVI." [June 10th - Blessed John Dominici de Banchini]
dolf: "FOUND TO BE LIARS!
O ye Corinthians {which is satisfied; ornament; beauty}, our mouth is
open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
Now for a recompense in the same, (I speak as unto my children), be ye
also enlarged. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for
what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with *darkness*?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell
in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,
and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a
Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty." [2 Corinthians 6:11-18 (KJV)]
dolf: "The entire world knows that they also have hated us without a
cause--thusly the word the Lord Jesus Christ is fulfilled: "All the ends
of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds
of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go
down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own
soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that
shall be born, that he hath done this." [Psalm 22:27-31 (KJV)]
Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme f@ckhead (*BUNGHOLE*): "Buddha was a
fat, old, prick who never worked. Just sat around making philosophical
comments and pottering around in his cucumber patch. Hmmmm....I wonder
if he has a modern contemporary? LOL!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "When this fella became Buddha he was
still fairly young. I would consult my history books to know the
approximate date of his enlightenment.
Buddha came from a wealthy family, but he renounced it all and became
impoverished. I know because I have extensive historical knowledge."
Blue Peeler (wo...@barque.org): "Anybody with a 'life' like yours (twenty
years on Usenet, around the clock) is definitely SUBhuman!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Thank you, Mister Peeler, for
clearing that up."
Checkmate, DoW #1 (Lunatic...@The.Edge): "Everybody wants to think
their particular brand of god looks out for us. I see absolutely no
evidence of that anywhere. A scientist looks out for lab rats more than
the various gods look out for us."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Yes, I surely agree with that."
dolf: "Physician Heal Thyself!
Your comments are nonsense oh bastard son of Buddha."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf? You seem a little upset about
something. Care to talk about it?
I'm here for you if you need me, Dolf.
My Nam (ie. Vietnam) Tour taught me to be there for my men."
dolf: "They are presumptive, arrogant comments which you are now making,
in feeling smug by only responding to my preliminary narrative for the
Ali Muhammad's memorial service posted at 0515 hours (AEST) and just
prior to its commencement and which required a further 12 hours of
labour to conclude.
It unambiguously shows a higher Divine power of God the Father (YHWH)
and the Son (Jesus of Nazareth) as Intelligence (ie. Godhead) at play in
the affairs of humankind from eternity and the cosmological foundations
of when the world began."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf, Buddha tried to find
enlightenment through deprivation of worldly goods, including food,
practicing self-mortification. After nearly starving himself to death
by restricting his food intake to around a leaf or nut per day, he
collapsed in a river while bathing and almost drowned. Buddha was
rescued by a village girl named Sujata, who gave him some payasam (a
pudding made from milk and jaggery), after which he got back some
energy. Then Buddha began to reconsider his path. He remembered a
moment in childhood in which he had been watching his father start the
season's ploughing. He attained a concentrated and focused state that
was blissful and refreshing, the jhana (ie. a series of cultivated
states of mind, which lead to 'state of perfect equanimity').
Now Dolf, in yer opinion, did this young, nubile [village girl] give The
Buddha anything else that may have [refreshed] him? Hmmm?
And remember Dolf, The Buddha said, 'You will not be punished for your
anger, you will be punished by your anger.' Amen."
dolf: "Anger?
I'm laughing at you in my having as an Intellectual Property, a
mathematical paradigm as a metaphysical theoretical noumenon and a
determined contrivance associated with attributed time, rationality and
the reasoned mind:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² : arch kai telos oida {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}
Where the c² is equivalent to a constant dependent on n, calculated by
the formula:
M = [n(n² + 1)] / 2
It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old,
but rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a
noumenal focal point as a development by which rationality transpires,
reason springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:
HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product*
*of* *two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]
As the relativity and grounding of the Infinite to the temporal reality
(ie. the phenomenology as the deterministic unfolding of history) which
is implied by the notion of rational PI and the cosmogonical reprise of
the lunar / solar cycle occurring on the equinox of Wednesday 20th March
1996 / New Moon on Thursday 21st March 1996.
"And having spoiled PRINCIPALITIES (arche: [properly abstract] a
commencement, or [concrete] chief in various applications of order,
time, place or rank:--beginning, corner, at the first estate,
magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule)
and POWERS, (exousia: [in the sense of ability]; privilege, that is,
[subjectively] force, capacity, competency, freedom, or [objectively]
mastery [concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of
control], delegated influence:--authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power,
right, strength)
HE (ie. Jesus of Nazareth) made a show of them openly, triumphing over
them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an
holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow
of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a VOLUNTARY (ie. subjective
impulse; subjective impulse; asceticism)
HUMILITY (tapeinophrosune: humiliation of mind, that is,
modesty:--humbleness of mind, humility of mind, lowliness of mind)
and WORSHIPPING (ie. ceremonial observance:--religion) OF *ANGELS*,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by
his FLESHY MIND (nous: the intellect, that is, mind [divine or human; in
thought, feeling, or will]; by implication meaning:--mind, *understanding*),
and not holding the Head (kephale: [in the sense of seizing]; the head
as the part most readily taken hold of, literally or figuratively:--head
but meaning 'theiotes' as divinity [abstractly]:—Godhead),
from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment
ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the RUDIMENTS (stoicheion:
something orderly in arrangement: Theory of Number (1 ... 10), that is
[by implication] a serial basal, fundamental, initial constituent: #15
... #369; [literally], proposition [figuratively]:--element, principle,
rudiment)
OF THE WORLD (kosmos: orderly arrangement, that is a decoration; by
implication the world [in a wide or narrow sense, including its
inhabitants, literally or figuratively or morally]:—adorning, world),
why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch
not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility,
and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the
flesh." [Colossians 2:15-23 (KJV)]
As you are without any foundation and have the moral scruples of a dag
festering maggot--racist that you are.
What is your military service number slyboots?
Eat shit (ie. an exclamation expressing anger or contempt for, or
rejection of, someone)."
Matt (trdell12345): "You need to read you[r] Roman Catholic Church
fundie buddies post [concerning the real history of the evil Roman
Catholic Church]. They seem to believe they and the Roman Catholic
Church have the right to Judge a person's salvation.
[The] Bible says only God [can]. Why do you reject the Bible and
replace it with Roman Catholic Church Dogma?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "He's never done such things. You're the
one that keeps trying to do that.
Why don't you stop and learn for once."
Matt (trdell12345): "Don't [you] think? So you have Roman Catholic
Church brainwashing backed up with lies."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "Well, you're none of the above so I don't
expect you to *understand*."
Dechucka: "No reason, but the facts are there."
Patrick (Catholic) Barker: "No facts. Why should I believe your whiney
theory?"
Matt (trdell12345): "Well you have that right I am not brainwashed and I
am not Roman Catholic Church."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "That's right. You were rejected, weren't
you. But, I tried to help you."
Matt (trdell12345): "You don't have the authority to reject. Did St.
Patrick Church give you that authority or claim to?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If you were rejected, somebody did."
dolf: "Hey wet biscuit, how does it feel knowing that both you Duke
(Catholic) Earl Weber and your Roman Catholic Church have been rejected
by God the Father and his Son?
Eat shit all of you."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If in doubt, discuss with a priest.
Being constantly pounded with crap does not make one a bad guy for
hitting back (within reason).
After all, we human and not Jesus Christ.
It's the old turn the c[h]eek issue - to avoid revenge."
Michael Christ: "Yes, well I have to repent sometime..."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: ""You lack the common sense to know you've
been defeated."
Ordog Mephisto Belphegor Lucifer Satan (Belp...@Hell.biz) :"Liar!
Writing endless garbage drivel is no indication of your reading [and
comprehension] skills.
Stop faking [these] post[s], Dolf. Your parents [would be] ashamed of you.
Keep this up and you'll be haunted by punishing wraiths (ie. as wraths)
till the end of your living days!"
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "Did God freely choose to create
Satan as Lucifer Morningstar.?"
Gordon (gordonlr@swbell): "Yes, and the reason for this and other such
dolf: "This chapter has been especially written in support and
recognition of Queen Elizabeth's II 90th birthday celebrations and Her
consort Prince Philip's 95th birthday.
As they claim to honorably swear: DIEU ET MON DROIT [ie. God and my
right (the motto of the British monarch)].
Those specific readings were associated to computed 'Categories of
*Understanding*' (ie. SUPER (MALE) IDEA and EGO (FEMALE) IDEA) and
obtained by means of my intellectual property (as a natural endowment)
associated to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as a theoretical and
metaphysical concept of the Godhead/Divine Mind--there is no pretense.
It is a comparison between the chronological placement of the series:
#15 ... #34 ... #65 of the progression of Magic Squares associated with
the traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS basis to the Theory of
Number as a binary apparatus (ie. gender and spermatic attributions) and
the institutional basis for sacred marriage, attributed time as the
Celestial Hierarchy which is common to Judaism, Roman Catholicism et al
Christian communities, Masonry and Islamic religious belief and Roman
Empire governance.
I HAVE SHOWN IT TO BE A PERVERSE *SECRET* KNOWLEDGE, FAUX-PIETY AND A
FRAUDULENT CLAIM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS!
And my considered, rational and reasonable paradigm which subsumes this
traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS view of the Theory of Number
with its reliant use of a progression of magic squares: #15 ... #369 by
using 7 x #369 magic squares with the 1st being the Greco-Roman magic
square.
And amalgamated this with the 9th autonomous layer comprising the
Chinese Daoist array as an alternative HOMOIOS (published in 4 BCE) view
of the Theory of Number since both were esoteric, metaphysical and
cosmological views of attributed time used for respective (Roman and
Chinese) Empire governance. In addition to this array I have added an
8th as Transformative layer as a hetero-square spirogyra order square.
Such that the #369 (9x9) Magic Square utilized by either of the
religious belief systems, will find it deployed within one of the seven
x #369 magic squares.
You show neither dignity or respect for the dead nor our Sovereign.
What better, than some theatrical action with Satan making a perverse
and depraved appearance:
'Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is so written...'"
O ye Corinthians {which is satisfied; ornament; beauty}, our mouth is
open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
Now for a recompense in the same, (I speak as unto my children), be ye
also enlarged. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for
what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with *darkness*?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell
in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,
and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a
Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty." [2 Corinthians 6:11-18 (KJV)]
dolf: "The entire world knows that they also have hated us without a
cause--thusly the word the Lord Jesus Christ is fulfilled: "All the ends
of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds
of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go
down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own
soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that
shall be born, that he hath done this." [Psalm 22:27-31 (KJV)]
Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme f@ckhead (*BUNGHOLE*): "Buddha was a
fat, old, prick who never worked. Just sat around making philosophical
comments and pottering around in his cucumber patch. Hmmmm....I wonder
if he has a modern contemporary? LOL!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "When this fella became Buddha he was
still fairly young. I would consult my history books to know the
approximate date of his enlightenment.
Buddha came from a wealthy family, but he renounced it all and became
impoverished. I know because I have extensive historical knowledge."
Blue Peeler (wo...@barque.org): "Anybody with a 'life' like yours (twenty
years on Usenet, around the clock) is definitely SUBhuman!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Thank you, Mister Peeler, for
clearing that up."
Checkmate, DoW #1 (Lunatic...@The.Edge): "Everybody wants to think
their particular brand of god looks out for us. I see absolutely no
evidence of that anywhere. A scientist looks out for lab rats more than
the various gods look out for us."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Yes, I surely agree with that."
dolf: "Physician Heal Thyself!
Your comments are nonsense oh bastard son of Buddha."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf? You seem a little upset about
something. Care to talk about it?
I'm here for you if you need me, Dolf.
My Nam (ie. Vietnam) Tour taught me to be there for my men."
dolf: "They are presumptive, arrogant comments which you are now making,
in feeling smug by only responding to my preliminary narrative for the
Ali Muhammad's memorial service posted at 0515 hours (AEST) and just
prior to its commencement and which required a further 12 hours of
labour to conclude.
It unambiguously shows a higher Divine power of God the Father (YHWH)
and the Son (Jesus of Nazareth) as Intelligence (ie. Godhead) at play in
the affairs of humankind from eternity and the cosmological foundations
of when the world began."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf, Buddha tried to find
enlightenment through deprivation of worldly goods, including food,
practicing self-mortification. After nearly starving himself to death
by restricting his food intake to around a leaf or nut per day, he
collapsed in a river while bathing and almost drowned. Buddha was
rescued by a village girl named Sujata, who gave him some payasam (a
pudding made from milk and jaggery), after which he got back some
energy. Then Buddha began to reconsider his path. He remembered a
moment in childhood in which he had been watching his father start the
season's ploughing. He attained a concentrated and focused state that
was blissful and refreshing, the jhana (ie. a series of cultivated
states of mind, which lead to 'state of perfect equanimity').
Now Dolf, in yer opinion, did this young, nubile [village girl] give The
Buddha anything else that may have [refreshed] him? Hmmm?
And remember Dolf, The Buddha said, 'You will not be punished for your
anger, you will be punished by your anger.' Amen."
dolf: "Anger?
I'm laughing at you in my having as an Intellectual Property, a
mathematical paradigm as a metaphysical theoretical noumenon and a
determined contrivance associated with attributed time, rationality and
the reasoned mind:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² : arch kai telos oida {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}
Where the c² is equivalent to a constant dependent on n, calculated by
the formula:
M = [n(n² + 1)] / 2
It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old,
but rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a
noumenal focal point as a development by which rationality transpires,
reason springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:
HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product*
*of* *two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]
As the relativity and grounding of the Infinite to the temporal reality
(ie. the phenomenology as the deterministic unfolding of history) which
is implied by the notion of rational PI and the cosmogonical reprise of
the lunar / solar cycle occurring on the equinox of Wednesday 20th March
1996 / New Moon on Thursday 21st March 1996.
"And having spoiled PRINCIPALITIES (arche: [properly abstract] a
commencement, or [concrete] chief in various applications of order,
time, place or rank:--beginning, corner, at the first estate,
magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule)
and POWERS, (exousia: [in the sense of ability]; privilege, that is,
[subjectively] force, capacity, competency, freedom, or [objectively]
mastery [concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of
control], delegated influence:--authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power,
right, strength)
HE (ie. Jesus of Nazareth) made a show of them openly, triumphing over
them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an
holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow
of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a VOLUNTARY (ie. subjective
impulse; subjective impulse; asceticism)
HUMILITY (tapeinophrosune: humiliation of mind, that is,
modesty:--humbleness of mind, humility of mind, lowliness of mind)
and WORSHIPPING (ie. ceremonial observance:--religion) OF *ANGELS*,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by
his FLESHY MIND (nous: the intellect, that is, mind [divine or human; in
thought, feeling, or will]; by implication meaning:--mind, *understanding*),
and not holding the Head (kephale: [in the sense of seizing]; the head
as the part most readily taken hold of, literally or figuratively:--head
but meaning 'theiotes' as divinity [abstractly]:—Godhead),
from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment
ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the RUDIMENTS (stoicheion:
something orderly in arrangement: Theory of Number (1 ... 10), that is
[by implication] a serial basal, fundamental, initial constituent: #15
... #369; [literally], proposition [figuratively]:--element, principle,
rudiment)
OF THE WORLD (kosmos: orderly arrangement, that is a decoration; by
implication the world [in a wide or narrow sense, including its
inhabitants, literally or figuratively or morally]:—adorning, world),
why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch
not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility,
and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the
flesh." [Colossians 2:15-23 (KJV)]
As you are without any foundation and have the moral scruples of a dag
festering maggot--racist that you are.
What is your military service number slyboots?
Eat shit (ie. an exclamation expressing anger or contempt for, or
rejection of, someone)."
Matt (trdell12345): "You need to read you[r] Roman Catholic Church
fundie buddies post [concerning the real history of the evil Roman
Catholic Church]. They seem to believe they and the Roman Catholic
Church have the right to Judge a person's salvation.
[The] Bible says only God [can]. Why do you reject the Bible and
replace it with Roman Catholic Church Dogma?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "He's never done such things. You're the
one that keeps trying to do that.
Why don't you stop and learn for once."
Matt (trdell12345): "Don't [you] think? So you have Roman Catholic
Church brainwashing backed up with lies."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "Well, you're none of the above so I don't
expect you to *understand*."
Dechucka: "No reason, but the facts are there."
Patrick (Catholic) Barker: "No facts. Why should I believe your whiney
theory?"
Matt (trdell12345): "Well you have that right I am not brainwashed and I
am not Roman Catholic Church."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "That's right. You were rejected, weren't
you. But, I tried to help you."
Matt (trdell12345): "You don't have the authority to reject. Did St.
Patrick Church give you that authority or claim to?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If you were rejected, somebody did."
dolf: "Hey wet biscuit, how does it feel knowing that both you Duke
(Catholic) Earl Weber and your Roman Catholic Church have been rejected
by God the Father and his Son?
Eat shit all of you."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If in doubt, discuss with a priest.
Being constantly pounded with crap does not make one a bad guy for
hitting back (within reason).
After all, we human and not Jesus Christ.
It's the old turn the c[h]eek issue - to avoid revenge."
Michael Christ: "Yes, well I have to repent sometime..."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: ""You lack the common sense to know you've
been defeated."
Ordog Mephisto Belphegor Lucifer Satan (Belp...@Hell.biz) :"Liar!
Writing endless garbage drivel is no indication of your reading [and
comprehension] skills.
Stop faking [these] post[s], Dolf. Your parents [would be] ashamed of you.
Keep this up and you'll be haunted by punishing wraiths (ie. as wraths)
till the end of your living days!"
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "Did God freely choose to create
Satan as Lucifer Morningstar.?"
Gordon (gordonlr@swbell): "Yes, and the reason for this and other such
situations is that God's creation project was intended to become
absolutely perfect. Had God not created Satan and all the evil that we
are currently immersed in, His creation would have been less than
absolutely complete and therefore could never be refined to a perfect
state.
absolutely perfect. Had God not created Satan and all the evil that we
are currently immersed in, His creation would have been less than
absolutely complete and therefore could never be refined to a perfect
state.
We are now going through the phase that will eventually separate all
that is good from all that is not good and there will be an eternal
barrier (cosmic nexus, maybe) between the two realms."
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "I'm wondering why an eternal being
that is good from all that is not good and there will be an eternal
barrier (cosmic nexus, maybe) between the two realms."
needs time to achieve these things."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "You're experiencing yours now."
dolf: "This chapter has been especially written in support and
recognition of Queen Elizabeth's II 90th birthday celebrations and Her
consort Prince Philip's 95th birthday.
As they claim to honorably swear: DIEU ET MON DROIT [ie. God and my
right (the motto of the British monarch)].
Those specific readings were associated to computed 'Categories of
*Understanding*' (ie. SUPER (MALE) IDEA and EGO (FEMALE) IDEA) and
obtained by means of my intellectual property (as a natural endowment)
associated to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as a theoretical and
metaphysical concept of the Godhead/Divine Mind--there is no pretense.
It is a comparison between the chronological placement of the series:
#15 ... #34 ... #65 of the progression of Magic Squares associated with
the traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS basis to the Theory of
Number as a binary apparatus (ie. gender and spermatic attributions) and
the institutional basis for sacred marriage, attributed time as the
Celestial Hierarchy which is common to Judaism, Roman Catholicism et al
Christian communities, Masonry and Islamic religious belief and Roman
Empire governance.
I HAVE SHOWN IT TO BE A PERVERSE *SECRET* KNOWLEDGE, FAUX-PIETY AND A
FRAUDULENT CLAIM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS!
And my considered, rational and reasonable paradigm which subsumes this
traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS view of the Theory of Number
with its reliant use of a progression of magic squares: #15 ... #369 by
using 7 x #369 magic squares with the 1st being the Greco-Roman magic
square.
And amalgamated this with the 9th autonomous layer comprising the
Chinese Daoist array as an alternative HOMOIOS (published in 4 BCE) view
of the Theory of Number since both were esoteric, metaphysical and
cosmological views of attributed time used for respective (Roman and
Chinese) Empire governance. In addition to this array I have added an
8th as Transformative layer as a hetero-square spirogyra order square.
Such that the #369 (9x9) Magic Square utilized by either of the
religious belief systems, will find it deployed within one of the seven
x #369 magic squares.
You show neither dignity or respect for the dead nor our Sovereign.
What better, than some theatrical action with Satan making a perverse
and depraved appearance:
'Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is so written...'"
- dolf
Facebook Post: "My Reading for the Muhammad Ali Memorial" of 11 June
2016 (AEST)
-
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=468374840023024&id=100005515364934
-- My Reading for the Muhammad Ali Memorial
(c) 2016 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 12 June, 2016
Nous: #73
Time: 19:55 hrs
Date: 2016.1.19
Torah: #40 #90 #200 %81 = #6
Dao: Employing Deeming, Daring to Act
Tetra: #7 - Ascent
I-Ching: H46 - Moving Upward
Latin: Gloria {God who comforts the oppressed} Alt: Menkel {Cease Strife
Before God] {
1. HELPS *HEAL* THE ILLS OF THE SPIRIT, RELEASES FROM PERSECUTORS
2. MEN OF VIRTUE
3. FAITHFULNESS, INDUCES OBEDIENCE IN SUBORDINATES
4. Homoth
}
Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {Sovereign; one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified};
#15 CE <--- Augustus {increased, augmented} (Latin: Imperator Caesar
Divi Filius (ie. '*divine* *son*', or '*son* *of* *the* *divine*')
Augustus; 23 September 63 BCE-19 August 14 CE) was the founder of the
Roman Empire and its first Emperor, ruling from 27 BCE until his death
in 14 CE.
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #373
#10, #300, #8, #50, #5 - shachah (H7812): 1) to bow down; 1a) (Qal) to
bow down; 1b) (Hiphil) to depress (fig); 1c) (Hithpael); 1c1) to bow
down, prostrate oneself; 1c1a) before superior in homage; 1c1b) before
God in worship; 1c1c) before false gods; 1c1d) before *angel*;
#10, #300, #8, #50, #5 - shachah (H7812): 1) to bow down; 1a) (Qal) to
bow down; 1b) (Hiphil) to depress (fig); 1c) (Hithpael); 1c1) to bow
down, prostrate oneself; 1c1a) before superior in homage; 1c1b) before
"And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus
{savior; deliverer} tarried behind in Jerusalem {vision of peace}; and
Joseph {increase; addition} and his mother knew not of it. But they,
supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and
they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem,
seeking him. And it came to pass, that after three days they found him
in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them,
and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him,
'Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?
Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.'
And he said unto them, 'How is it that ye sought me?
Wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?'
And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen
or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}, and was subject unto
them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and
man." [Luke 2:43-52 (KJV)]
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #325
#30, #5, #20, #10, #200, #50, #10 - nakar (H5234): 1) to recognise,
acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or treat as
foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to
distinguish, *understand*; 1d) (Hithpael) to make oneself known; 2a)
#30, #5, #20, #10, #200, #50, #10 - nakar (H5234): 1) to recognise,
acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard; 2) to act or treat as
foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue; 1a) (Niphal) to be
recognised; 1b) (Piel) to regard; 1c) (Hiphil); 1c1) to regard, observe,
pay attention to, pay regard to, notice; 1c2) to recognise (as formerly
known), perceive; 1c3) to be willing to recognise or acknowledge,
acknowledge with honour; 1c4) to be acquainted with; 1c5) to
(Niphal) to disguise oneself; 2b) (Piel); 2b1) to treat as foreign
(profane); 2b2) to misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) *to* *act* *as*
*alien*; 2c2) to disguise oneself;
"And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him all
the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, 'All this power will I give thee, and the
glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I
give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.'
And Jesus {savior; deliverer} answered and said unto him, 'Get thee
behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God, and him only shalt thou serve.'
And he brought him to Jerusalem {vision of peace}, and set him on a
pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, 'If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his
*angels* charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall
(profane); 2b2) to misconstrue; 2c) (Hithpael); 2c1) *to* *act* *as*
*alien*; 2c2) to disguise oneself;
"And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him all
the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, 'All this power will I give thee, and the
glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I
give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.'
And Jesus {savior; deliverer} answered and said unto him, 'Get thee
behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy
God, and him only shalt thou serve.'
And he brought him to Jerusalem {vision of peace}, and set him on a
pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, 'If thou be the Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #274
#6, #60, #200, #8 - cerach (H5629): 1) excess, overhanging;
#3, #5, #50, #5, #1, #10, #200 - genea (G1074): 1) fathered, birth,
nativity; 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a
family; 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time; 4) an age
(ie. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a
space of 30 - 33 years; 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the
successive members of a genealogy; 2b) metaph. a race of men very like
each other in endowments, pursuits, character; 2b1) esp. in a bad sense,
a *perverse* race;
#6, #60, #200, #8 - cerach (H5629): 1) excess, overhanging;
#3, #5, #50, #5, #1, #10, #200 - genea (G1074): 1) fathered, birth,
nativity; 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a
family; 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time; 4) an age
(ie. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a
space of 30 - 33 years; 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the
successive members of a genealogy; 2b) metaph. a race of men very like
each other in endowments, pursuits, character; 2b1) esp. in a bad sense,
#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10, #70, #50 - dokimion (G1383): 1) the
proving; 2) that by which something is tried or proved, a test;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #333
#30, #2, #100, #200, #1 - beqar (Aramaic) (H1240): 1) to seek, enquire;
1a) (Pael) to enquire; 1b) (Ithpael) to let search be made;
#6, #7, #200, #70, #10, #40 - zerowa` (H2220): 1) arm, forearm,
shoulder, strength; 1a) arm; 1b) arm (as symbol of strength); 1c) forces
(political and military); 1d) shoulder (of animal sacrificed);
#30, #5, #8, #200, #10, #40, #40 - charam (H2763): 1) to ban, devote,
destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction,
exterminate; 2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body); 1a)
(Hiphil); 1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban; 1a2) to consecrate,
devote, dedicate for destruction; 1a3) to exterminate, completely
destroy; 1b) (Hophal); 1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to
destruction; 1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited; 1b3) to be completely
destroyed; 2a) (Qal) to mutilate; 2b) (Hiphil) to divide;
Will not God recompense you and your Roman church for their Christ
murdering, Hitler loving and lying deceiving tongue?
The 'Roman' Question: Is it justified to label the Roman Catholic Church
as 'Christ Murderers'?
Someone was responsible. She after all sits as queen ('and saith in her
murdering, Hitler loving and lying deceiving tongue?
The 'Roman' Question: Is it justified to label the Roman Catholic Church
as 'Christ Murderers'?
heart, I am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.' [Revelation 18:7 (KJV)])
within her sovereign city-state bearing the same titles as tributes and
authorities of the Roman Caesar (ie. We have no King but Caesar) who,
then as a matter of Governance and religious belief, were Christ
murderers--then she having the same substance, is imputed guilt:
Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that
which is God's." [Luke 20:25]
"And they began to accuse him, saying, 'We found this fellow
then as a matter of Governance and religious belief, were Christ
murderers--then she having the same substance, is imputed guilt:
Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that
which is God's." [Luke 20:25]
*perverting* the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar,
saying that he himself is Christ a King.'
And Pilate {armed with a dart} asked him, saying, 'Art thou the King of
the Jews?'
And he answered him and said, 'Thou sayest it.'" [Luke 23:2-3 (KJV)]
"Then saith Pilate {armed with a dart} unto him, Speakest thou not unto
me? Knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power
to release thee?
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have *no* *power* *at* *all* *against*
*me*, *except* *it* *were* *given* *thee* *from* *above*: *therefore*
*he* *that* *delivered* *me* unto thee *hath* *the* *greater* *sin*.
And from thenceforth Pilate {armed with a dart} sought to release him:
to release thee?
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have *no* *power* *at* *all* *against*
*me*, *except* *it* *were* *given* *thee* *from* *above*: *therefore*
*he* *that* *delivered* *me* unto thee *hath* *the* *greater* *sin*.
but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not
Caesar’s friend: *whosoever* *maketh* *himself* *a* *king* *speaketh*
*against* *Caesar*." [John 19:10-12 (KJV)]
"Without *understanding*, covenant-breakers, without natural affection,
Caesar’s friend: *whosoever* *maketh* *himself* *a* *king* *speaketh*
*against* *Caesar*." [John 19:10-12 (KJV)]
implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that *they*
*which* *commit* *such* *things* *are* *worthy* *of* *death*, *not*
*only* *do* *the* *same*, but *have* *pleasure* *in* *them* *that* *do*
*them*." [Romans 1:31-32 (KJV)]
"But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them
*which* *commit* *such* *things* *are* *worthy* *of* *death*, *not*
*only* *do* *the* *same*, but *have* *pleasure* *in* *them* *that* *do*
*them*." [Romans 1:31-32 (KJV)]
certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set
all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason {he that
*cures*}, and sought to bring them out to the people.
And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto
the rulers of the city, crying, 'These that have *turned* *the* *world*
*upside* *down* *are* *come* *hither* *also*; Whom Jason hath received:
and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is
another king, one Jesus'.
And they troubled the people and the rulers of the city, when they heard
these things. And when they had taken security of Jason, and of the
other, they let them go.
And the brethren immediately sent away Paul {small; little} and Silas
{three, or the third} by night unto Berea {heavy; weighty}: who coming
thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica {victory against the
Thessalians}, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,
and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." [Acts
17:5-11 (KJV)]
Nous: #14
Time: 20:35 hrs
Date: 2016.1.29
Torah: #10 #5 #5 %81 = #20
Dao: Praising the Mysterious (Metaphysics)
Tetra: #9 - Branching Out
I-Ching: H19 - Approaching
Latin: Refugium {*Supreme* *Being*} Alt: Chamyah {In the Midst of God} {
Time: 20:35 hrs
Date: 2016.1.29
Torah: #10 #5 #5 %81 = #20
Dao: Praising the Mysterious (Metaphysics)
Tetra: #9 - Branching Out
I-Ching: H19 - Approaching
1. HELPS OBTAIN WISDOM & KNOWLEDGE
2. PHILOSOPHERS & THE ENLIGHTENED
3. VIRTUE IN SOLITUDE FROM WORLDLY CONCERNS
4. Oroasoer
}
#65 CE <--- Apostle Paul as prisoner in Rome to plead his case before
2. PHILOSOPHERS & THE ENLIGHTENED
3. VIRTUE IN SOLITUDE FROM WORLDLY CONCERNS
4. Oroasoer
}
Emperor Nero
SUPER (MALE) IDEA: #404
#4, #300, #50, #10, #40 - dashen (H1879): 1) fat subst; 2) vigorous,
stalwart ones;
#6, #10, #6, #300, #10, #2, #10, #50, #10 - yashab (H3427): 1) to dwell,
remain, sit, abide; 10) to be inhabited; 100) to make to dwell; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to sit, sit down; 1a2) to be set; 1a3) to remain, stay; 1a4)
to dwell, have one's abode; 1b) (Niphal) to be inhabited; 1c) (Piel) to
set, place; 1d) (Hiphil); 1d1) to cause to sit; 1d2) to cause to abide,
set; 1d3) to cause to dwell; 1d4) to cause (cities) to be inhabited;
1d5) to marry (give an dwelling to); 1e) (Hophal);
#6, #40, #50, #8, #300 - nachash (H5172): 1) to practice divination,
divine, *observe signs*, learn by experience, diligently observe,
practice fortunetelling, take as an *omen*; 1a) (Piel); 1a1) to practice
divination; 1a2) to *observe* *the* *signs* or *omens*;
#6, #2, #50, #90, #6, #200, #10, #40 - natsar (H5341): 1) to guard,
watch, watch over, keep; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) to watch, guard, keep; 1a2) to
preserve, guard from dangers; 1a3) to keep, observe, guard with
blockaded; 1a6) watchman (participle);
#20, #1, #300, #1, #30, #1, #30, #10, #1, #10 - katalalia (G2636): 1)
defamation, evil speaking;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #359
#6, #50, #8, #200, #90, #5 - charats (H2782): 1) to cut, sharpen,
decide, decree, determine, maim, move, be decisive, be mutilated; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to cut, mutilate; 1a2) to sharpen; 1a3) to decide; 1b)
(Niphal) to be decisive;
#300, #6, #3, #10, #40 - shagah (H7686): 1) to go astray, stray, err;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to err, stray; 1a2) to swerve, meander, reel, roll, be
intoxicated, err (in drunkenness); 1a3) to go astray (morally); 1a4) to
commit sin of ignorance or inadvertence, err (ignorantly); 1b) (Hiphil);
1b1) to lead astray; 1b2) to lead astray, mislead (mentally); 1b3) to
lead astray (morally);
#4, #5, #60, #10, #70, #10, #200 - dexios (G1188): 1) the right, the
right hand; 2) metaph.; 2a) a place of honour or authority;
#20, #1, #300, #1, #30, #1, #30, #10, #1, #10 - katalalia (G2636): 1)
defamation, evil speaking;
EGO (FEMALE) IDEA: #359
#6, #50, #8, #200, #90, #5 - charats (H2782): 1) to cut, sharpen,
decide, decree, determine, maim, move, be decisive, be mutilated; 1a)
(Qal); 1a1) to cut, mutilate; 1a2) to sharpen; 1a3) to decide; 1b)
(Niphal) to be decisive;
#300, #6, #3, #10, #40 - shagah (H7686): 1) to go astray, stray, err;
1a) (Qal); 1a1) to err, stray; 1a2) to swerve, meander, reel, roll, be
intoxicated, err (in drunkenness); 1a3) to go astray (morally); 1a4) to
commit sin of ignorance or inadvertence, err (ignorantly); 1b) (Hiphil);
1b1) to lead astray; 1b2) to lead astray, mislead (mentally); 1b3) to
lead astray (morally);
#4, #5, #60, #10, #70, #10, #200 - dexios (G1188): 1) the right, the
right hand; 2) metaph.; 2a) a place of honour or authority;
"And when it was determined that we should sail into Italy, they
delivered Paul {small; little} and certain other prisoners unto one
named Julius {downy; soft and tender hair}, a centurion of Augustus'
{increased, augmented} band.
And entering into a ship of Adramyttium {the court of death}, we
launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia {muddy; boggy}; one
Aristarchus {the best prince}, a Macedonian { burning; adoration} of
Thessalonica {victory against the Thessalians}, being with us. And the
next day we touched at Sidon {hunting; fishing; venison}. And Julius
to refresh himself.
And when we had launched from thence, we sailed under Cyprus {fair;
fairness}, because the winds were contrary. And when we had sailed over
the sea of Cilicia {which rolls or overturns} and Pamphylia {a nation
made up of every tribe}, we came to Myra {I flow; pour out; weep}, a
city of Lycia.
And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria {one who assists men}
sailing into Italy {abounding with calves or heifers}; and he put us
therein. And when we had sailed slowly many days, and scarce were come
over against Cnidus {age}, the wind not suffering us, we sailed under
Crete {carnal; fleshly}, over against Salmone {peaceable; perfect; he
that rewards}; And, hardly passing it, came unto a place which is called
The fair havens; nigh whereunto was the city of Lasea {thick; wise}.
Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous,
because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, And said
unto them, 'Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much
damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives.'
Nevertheless the centurion believed the master and the owner of the
ship, more than those things which were spoken by Paul." [Acts 27:1-(KJV)]
"For there stood by me this night the *angel* *of* *God*, *whose* *I*
And when we had launched from thence, we sailed under Cyprus {fair;
fairness}, because the winds were contrary. And when we had sailed over
the sea of Cilicia {which rolls or overturns} and Pamphylia {a nation
made up of every tribe}, we came to Myra {I flow; pour out; weep}, a
city of Lycia.
And there the centurion found a ship of Alexandria {one who assists men}
sailing into Italy {abounding with calves or heifers}; and he put us
therein. And when we had sailed slowly many days, and scarce were come
over against Cnidus {age}, the wind not suffering us, we sailed under
Crete {carnal; fleshly}, over against Salmone {peaceable; perfect; he
that rewards}; And, hardly passing it, came unto a place which is called
The fair havens; nigh whereunto was the city of Lasea {thick; wise}.
Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous,
because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, And said
unto them, 'Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much
damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives.'
Nevertheless the centurion believed the master and the owner of the
ship, more than those things which were spoken by Paul." [Acts 27:1-(KJV)]
*am*, *and* *whom* *I* *serve*, saying, 'Fear not, Paul; thou must be
brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail
with thee.'" [Acts 27:23-24 (KJV)]
"And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria {one who
assists men}, which had wintered in the isle, whose *sign* was Castor
and Pollux.
According to Wikipedia: "In Greek and Roman mythology, Castor and Pollux
or Polydeuces were twin brothers, together known as the Dioskouri
(Dioscuri).
In Latin the twins are also known as the Gemini or Castores. When Castor
was killed, Pollux asked Zeus to let him share his own immortality with
his twin to keep them together, and they were transformed into the
constellation Gemini. The pair were regarded as the patrons of sailors,
to whom they appeared as St. Elmo's *fire*, and were also associated
with horsemanship.
St. Elmo's fire is a bright blue or violet glow, appearing like fire in
with thee.'" [Acts 27:23-24 (KJV)]
"And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria {one who
assists men}, which had wintered in the isle, whose *sign* was Castor
and Pollux.
According to Wikipedia: "In Greek and Roman mythology, Castor and Pollux
or Polydeuces were twin brothers, together known as the Dioskouri
(Dioscuri).
In Latin the twins are also known as the Gemini or Castores. When Castor
was killed, Pollux asked Zeus to let him share his own immortality with
his twin to keep them together, and they were transformed into the
constellation Gemini. The pair were regarded as the patrons of sailors,
to whom they appeared as St. Elmo's *fire*, and were also associated
with horsemanship.
some circumstances, from tall, sharply pointed structures such as
lightning rods, masts, spires and chimneys, and on aircraft wings or
nose cones. St. Elmo's fire can also appear on leaves and grass, and
even at the tips of cattle horns. Often accompanying the glow is a
distinct hissing or buzzing sound. It is sometimes confused with ball
lightning.
In 1751, Benjamin Franklin hypothesized that a pointed iron rod would
light up at the tip during a lightning storm, similar in appearance to
St. Elmo's fire.
The Dioscuri were regarded as helpers of humankind and held to be
patrons of travellers and of sailors in particular, who invoked them to
seek favourable winds.
Their role as horsemen and *boxers* *also* *led* *to* *them* *being*
*regarded* *as* *the* *patrons* *of* *athletes* *and* *athletic*
*contests*.
They characteristically intervened at the moment of crisis, aiding those
St._Elmo's_fire]
of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and
hear with their ears, and *understand* with their heart, and should be
their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and
converted, and I should *heal* them. Be it known therefore unto you,
that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will
hear it.'
And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great
reasoning among themselves.
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all
that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those
things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man
forbidding him." [Acts 28:11-31 (KJV)]
that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will
hear it.'
And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great
reasoning among themselves.
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all
that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those
things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man
forbidding him." [Acts 28:11-31 (KJV)]
Nous: #63
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
SUPER (MALE): #337
Time: 04:10 hrs
Date: 2016.5.23
Torah: #1 #50 #10 %81 = #61
Dao: Origins in Reversal, Consider Beginnings
Tetra: #62 - Doubt
I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap
Latin: Decantatus {God of virtues} Alt: Yzalel {Deliverance of God} {
1. HELPS CONQUER & TO OBTAIN RELEASE FROM SIEGE
2. THE SCIENCES & ARTS
3. THE MEDITATION OF THE WISE
4. Souchoe
}
Asa {*Physician*; *cure*}
#30, #8, #200, #9, #40, #10, #40 - chartom (H2748): 1) diviner,
magician, astrologer; 1a) engraver, writer (only in derivative sense of
one possessed of occult knowledge);
"Then the magicians {chartom-magician [H2748]: #337} said unto Pharaoh
{that disperses; that spoils}, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's
heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had
said." [Exodus 8:19]
#2, #8, #300, #6, #20, #1 - chashowk (Aramaic) (H2816): 1) *darkness*;
#30, #50, #7, #200, #10, #40 - naziyr (H5139): 1) consecrated or devoted
one, Nazarite; 1a) consecrated one; 1b) devotee, Nazarite; 1c) untrimmed
(vine);
#30, #300, #6, #1 - shav' (H7723): 1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood; 1a)
emptiness, nothingness, vanity; 1b) emptiness of speech, lying; 1c)
worthlessness (of conduct);
#50, #1, #7, #1, #100, #8, #50, #70, #50 - Nazarenos (G3479): 1) a
resident of Nazareth {Sovereign; one chosen or set apart; separated;
crowned; sanctified};
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "The difficulty I have accepting this
Jesus fella as the son of god comes by way of folks always havin' to
humanize their deities.
I mean, if there actually were some extraordinary existence capable of
creating reality, do you think this [god] would be anthropomorphic?
In which case I have always preferred Buddha, if indeed I feel compelled
Remember, Buddha never said he was a god; he just said he was an
enlight[en]ed man.
Think about that stuff. "
Divine Mind) Theory of Number:
Resistance is futile."
WEEDY: "I CHOSE YOU OUT OF THE WORLD"
JESUS' DEMAND IS UNEQUIVOCAL AND WITHOUT COMPROMISE. DO NOT LOVE THE
WORLD OR THE THINGS IN THE WORLD. IF ANY ONE LOVES THE WORLD, LOVE FOR
THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM:
"Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment
which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which
ye have heard from the beginning.
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him
and in you: because the *darkness* is past, and the true light now
Resistance is futile."
WEEDY: "I CHOSE YOU OUT OF THE WORLD"
JESUS' DEMAND IS UNEQUIVOCAL AND WITHOUT COMPROMISE. DO NOT LOVE THE
WORLD OR THE THINGS IN THE WORLD. IF ANY ONE LOVES THE WORLD, LOVE FOR
THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM:
"Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment
which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which
ye have heard from the beginning.
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him
shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in
*darkness* even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the
light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that
hateth his brother is in *darkness*, and walketh in *darkness*, and
knoweth not whither he goeth, because that *darkness* hath *blinded* his
#100, #4, #10, #300, #10, #50 - qaddiysh (Aramaic) (H6922): 1) holy,
separate; 2) (TWOT) *angels*, saints;
"This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the
word of the holy {qaddiysh (Aramaic)-saint [H6922]: #474} ones: to the
intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom
of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the
basest of men." [Daniel 4:17]
#6, #8, #400, #20, #40 - chath (H2844): 1) fear, terror; 2) shattered,
dismayed; 2a) shattered; 2b) dismayed;
#8, #200, #5, #2, #8, #200, #1, #50 - asebeo (G764): 1) to be ungodly,
act impiously;
#3, #50, #70, #50, #300, #1 - ginosko (G1097): 1) to learn to know, come
to know, get a knowledge of perceive, feel; 2) to know, *understand*,
perceive, have knowledge of; 3) Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse
between a man and a woman; 4) to become acquainted with, to know; 1a) to
become known; 2a) to *understand*; 2b) to know;
#9, #5, #30, #70, #50, #300, #10 - thelo (G2309): 1) to will, have in
mind, intend; 1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose; 1b) to
desire, to wish; 1c) to love; 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of
doing; 1d) to take delight in, have pleasure;
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Does this mean somebuddy (ie.
somebody) was in outer space (ie. *alien*) at the time of choosing?"
dolf: "How readest thou oh bastard son of Buddha?"
chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit,
and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the
Father in my name, he may give it you. These things I command you, that
ye love one another.
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye
are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore
the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, 'The servant is not greater than
his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if
they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.'
But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because
they know not him that sent me.
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now
they have no cloak for their sin.
He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they
had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my
Father.
But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is
written in their law, 'THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE.'
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he
shall testify of me:
And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the
beginning." [John 15:16-27 (KJV)]
IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN THE LIGHT OF GOD'S TRUTH, HOW CAN WE RIGHTLY
DISTINGUISH GOOD FROM EVIL AND TRUTH FROM DECEPTION? TRUE LOVE OF GOD
AND HIS WAYS DRAW US TO ALL THAT IS LOVELY, TRUTHFUL AND GOOD. IF WE
TRULY LOVE GOD THEN WE WILL SUBMIT TO HIS TRUTH AND OBEY HIS WORD.
A FRIEND OF GOD CANNOT EXPECT TO BE A FRIEND OF THE WORLD BECAUSE THE
WORLD IS OPPOSED TO GOD'S TRUTH AND WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
INVOKING: John Dominici de Banchini was born in Florence, Italy, 1376
(or 1350?); died in Hungary 1419; cultus confirmed in 1832; beatified in
1837 by Pope Gregory XVI." [June 10th - Blessed John Dominici de Banchini]
dolf: "FOUND TO BE LIARS!
O ye Corinthians {which is satisfied; ornament; beauty}, our mouth is
open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
Now for a recompense in the same, (I speak as unto my children), be ye
also enlarged. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for
what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
And what communion hath light with *darkness*?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial?
Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell
in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord,
and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a
Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty." [2 Corinthians 6:11-18 (KJV)]
dolf: "The entire world knows that they also have hated us without a
cause--thusly the word the Lord Jesus Christ is fulfilled: "All the ends
of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds
of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go
down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own
soul.
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that
shall be born, that he hath done this." [Psalm 22:27-31 (KJV)]
Mr. Smartypants DoW #4, Supreme f@ckhead (*BUNGHOLE*): "Buddha was a
fat, old, prick who never worked. Just sat around making philosophical
comments and pottering around in his cucumber patch. Hmmmm....I wonder
if he has a modern contemporary? LOL!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "When this fella became Buddha he was
still fairly young. I would consult my history books to know the
approximate date of his enlightenment.
Buddha came from a wealthy family, but he renounced it all and became
impoverished. I know because I have extensive historical knowledge."
Blue Peeler (wo...@barque.org): "Anybody with a 'life' like yours (twenty
years on Usenet, around the clock) is definitely SUBhuman!"
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Thank you, Mister Peeler, for
clearing that up."
Checkmate, DoW #1 (Lunatic...@The.Edge): "Everybody wants to think
their particular brand of god looks out for us. I see absolutely no
evidence of that anywhere. A scientist looks out for lab rats more than
the various gods look out for us."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Yes, I surely agree with that."
dolf: "Physician Heal Thyself!
Your comments are nonsense oh bastard son of Buddha."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf? You seem a little upset about
something. Care to talk about it?
I'm here for you if you need me, Dolf.
My Nam (ie. Vietnam) Tour taught me to be there for my men."
dolf: "They are presumptive, arrogant comments which you are now making,
in feeling smug by only responding to my preliminary narrative for the
Ali Muhammad's memorial service posted at 0515 hours (AEST) and just
prior to its commencement and which required a further 12 hours of
labour to conclude.
It unambiguously shows a higher Divine power of God the Father (YHWH)
and the Son (Jesus of Nazareth) as Intelligence (ie. Godhead) at play in
the affairs of humankind from eternity and the cosmological foundations
of when the world began."
Colonel (Atheist/Buddhist) Burke: "Dolf, Buddha tried to find
enlightenment through deprivation of worldly goods, including food,
practicing self-mortification. After nearly starving himself to death
by restricting his food intake to around a leaf or nut per day, he
collapsed in a river while bathing and almost drowned. Buddha was
rescued by a village girl named Sujata, who gave him some payasam (a
pudding made from milk and jaggery), after which he got back some
energy. Then Buddha began to reconsider his path. He remembered a
moment in childhood in which he had been watching his father start the
season's ploughing. He attained a concentrated and focused state that
was blissful and refreshing, the jhana (ie. a series of cultivated
states of mind, which lead to 'state of perfect equanimity').
Now Dolf, in yer opinion, did this young, nubile [village girl] give The
Buddha anything else that may have [refreshed] him? Hmmm?
And remember Dolf, The Buddha said, 'You will not be punished for your
anger, you will be punished by your anger.' Amen."
dolf: "Anger?
I'm laughing at you in my having as an Intellectual Property, a
mathematical paradigm as a metaphysical theoretical noumenon and a
determined contrivance associated with attributed time, rationality and
the reasoned mind:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² : arch kai telos oida {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}
Where the c² is equivalent to a constant dependent on n, calculated by
the formula:
M = [n(n² + 1)] / 2
It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old,
but rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a
noumenal focal point as a development by which rationality transpires,
reason springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:
HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product*
*of* *two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]
As the relativity and grounding of the Infinite to the temporal reality
(ie. the phenomenology as the deterministic unfolding of history) which
is implied by the notion of rational PI and the cosmogonical reprise of
the lunar / solar cycle occurring on the equinox of Wednesday 20th March
1996 / New Moon on Thursday 21st March 1996.
"And having spoiled PRINCIPALITIES (arche: [properly abstract] a
commencement, or [concrete] chief in various applications of order,
time, place or rank:--beginning, corner, at the first estate,
magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule)
and POWERS, (exousia: [in the sense of ability]; privilege, that is,
[subjectively] force, capacity, competency, freedom, or [objectively]
mastery [concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of
control], delegated influence:--authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power,
right, strength)
HE (ie. Jesus of Nazareth) made a show of them openly, triumphing over
them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an
holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow
of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a VOLUNTARY (ie. subjective
impulse; subjective impulse; asceticism)
HUMILITY (tapeinophrosune: humiliation of mind, that is,
modesty:--humbleness of mind, humility of mind, lowliness of mind)
and WORSHIPPING (ie. ceremonial observance:--religion) OF *ANGELS*,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by
his FLESHY MIND (nous: the intellect, that is, mind [divine or human; in
thought, feeling, or will]; by implication meaning:--mind, *understanding*),
and not holding the Head (kephale: [in the sense of seizing]; the head
as the part most readily taken hold of, literally or figuratively:--head
but meaning 'theiotes' as divinity [abstractly]:—Godhead),
from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment
ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the RUDIMENTS (stoicheion:
something orderly in arrangement: Theory of Number (1 ... 10), that is
[by implication] a serial basal, fundamental, initial constituent: #15
... #369; [literally], proposition [figuratively]:--element, principle,
rudiment)
OF THE WORLD (kosmos: orderly arrangement, that is a decoration; by
implication the world [in a wide or narrow sense, including its
inhabitants, literally or figuratively or morally]:—adorning, world),
why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch
not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility,
and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the
flesh." [Colossians 2:15-23 (KJV)]
As you are without any foundation and have the moral scruples of a dag
festering maggot--racist that you are.
What is your military service number slyboots?
Eat shit (ie. an exclamation expressing anger or contempt for, or
rejection of, someone)."
Matt (trdell12345): "You need to read you[r] Roman Catholic Church
fundie buddies post [concerning the real history of the evil Roman
Catholic Church]. They seem to believe they and the Roman Catholic
Church have the right to Judge a person's salvation.
[The] Bible says only God [can]. Why do you reject the Bible and
replace it with Roman Catholic Church Dogma?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "He's never done such things. You're the
one that keeps trying to do that.
Why don't you stop and learn for once."
Matt (trdell12345): "Don't [you] think? So you have Roman Catholic
Church brainwashing backed up with lies."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "Well, you're none of the above so I don't
expect you to *understand*."
Dechucka: "No reason, but the facts are there."
Patrick (Catholic) Barker: "No facts. Why should I believe your whiney
theory?"
Matt (trdell12345): "Well you have that right I am not brainwashed and I
am not Roman Catholic Church."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "That's right. You were rejected, weren't
you. But, I tried to help you."
Matt (trdell12345): "You don't have the authority to reject. Did St.
Patrick Church give you that authority or claim to?"
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If you were rejected, somebody did."
dolf: "Hey wet biscuit, how does it feel knowing that both you Duke
(Catholic) Earl Weber and your Roman Catholic Church have been rejected
by God the Father and his Son?
Eat shit all of you."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "If in doubt, discuss with a priest.
Being constantly pounded with crap does not make one a bad guy for
hitting back (within reason).
After all, we human and not Jesus Christ.
It's the old turn the c[h]eek issue - to avoid revenge."
Michael Christ: "Yes, well I have to repent sometime..."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: ""You lack the common sense to know you've
been defeated."
Ordog Mephisto Belphegor Lucifer Satan (Belp...@Hell.biz) :"Liar!
Writing endless garbage drivel is no indication of your reading [and
comprehension] skills.
Stop faking [these] post[s], Dolf. Your parents [would be] ashamed of you.
Keep this up and you'll be haunted by punishing wraiths (ie. as wraths)
till the end of your living days!"
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "Did God freely choose to create
Satan as Lucifer Morningstar.?"
Gordon (gordonlr@swbell): "Yes, and the reason for this and other such
situations is that God's creation project was intended to become
absolutely perfect. Had God not created Satan and all the evil that we
are currently immersed in, His creation would have been less than
absolutely complete and therefore could never be refined to a perfect
state.
absolutely perfect. Had God not created Satan and all the evil that we
are currently immersed in, His creation would have been less than
absolutely complete and therefore could never be refined to a perfect
state.
We are now going through the phase that will eventually separate all
that is good from all that is not good and there will be an eternal
barrier (cosmic nexus, maybe) between the two realms."
Barry (Atheist/Heisenberg) O'Grady: "I'm wondering why an eternal being
that is good from all that is not good and there will be an eternal
barrier (cosmic nexus, maybe) between the two realms."
needs time to achieve these things."
Duke (Catholic) Earl Weber: "You're experiencing yours now."
dolf: "This chapter has been especially written in support and
recognition of Queen Elizabeth's II 90th birthday celebrations and Her
consort Prince Philip's 95th birthday.
As they claim to honorably swear: DIEU ET MON DROIT [ie. God and my
right (the motto of the British monarch)].
Those specific readings were associated to computed 'Categories of
*Understanding*' (ie. SUPER (MALE) IDEA and EGO (FEMALE) IDEA) and
obtained by means of my intellectual property (as a natural endowment)
associated to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as a theoretical and
metaphysical concept of the Godhead/Divine Mind--there is no pretense.
It is a comparison between the chronological placement of the series:
#15 ... #34 ... #65 of the progression of Magic Squares associated with
the traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS basis to the Theory of
Number as a binary apparatus (ie. gender and spermatic attributions) and
the institutional basis for sacred marriage, attributed time as the
Celestial Hierarchy which is common to Judaism, Roman Catholicism et al
Christian communities, Masonry and Islamic religious belief and Roman
Empire governance.
I HAVE SHOWN IT TO BE A PERVERSE *SECRET* KNOWLEDGE, FAUX-PIETY AND A
FRAUDULENT CLAIM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS!
And my considered, rational and reasonable paradigm which subsumes this
traditional Pythagorean mystical HETEROS view of the Theory of Number
with its reliant use of a progression of magic squares: #15 ... #369 by
using 7 x #369 magic squares with the 1st being the Greco-Roman magic
square.
And amalgamated this with the 9th autonomous layer comprising the
Chinese Daoist array as an alternative HOMOIOS (published in 4 BCE) view
of the Theory of Number since both were esoteric, metaphysical and
cosmological views of attributed time used for respective (Roman and
Chinese) Empire governance. In addition to this array I have added an
8th as Transformative layer as a hetero-square spirogyra order square.
Such that the #369 (9x9) Magic Square utilized by either of the
religious belief systems, will find it deployed within one of the seven
x #369 magic squares.
You show neither dignity or respect for the dead nor our Sovereign.
What better, than some theatrical action with Satan making a perverse
and depraved appearance:
'Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is so written...'"
Rod
Jun 11, 2016, 5:27:07 PM6/11/16
to
or person that would suggest silencing someones right to
speak.
Rod
Jun 11, 2016, 5:33:49 PM6/11/16
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but you can almost always count on someone that avoids
answering a direct question as evading the truth.
> and prove how clueless he is about our Constitution. I just knew it.
>
proving that you are clueless about telling the truth.
How's that working for you, Stoopid?
Rod
Jun 11, 2016, 5:36:49 PM6/11/16
to
>
MattB
Jun 11, 2016, 6:18:14 PM6/11/16
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Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 11, 2016, 6:58:12 PM6/11/16
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:28:10 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
If God is a robot we have no chance of teaching him what
matters to us.
>And pre-programming us as puppets would not have provided
>for our absolute sovereignty that He wants us to mature to. Gordon
Why then did God make us robots? We don't choose our personality.
People don't choose to be pedophiles or rapists or homosexual or
any of the many other deviants.
I suggest you Google "virtuous pedophiles".
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_Pedophiles
Sample:
Virtuous Pedophiles is an Internet-based mutual support group for
pedophiles who acknowledge having a sexual interest in children and do
not act on their desires. Members support each other in trying
to lead normal lives without committing child sexual abuse. Members
share the belief that sexual activity between adults and children is
wrong and always will be.
From http://www.virped.org/
" I’m a 20-year-old man who has been trying to deal with an attraction
to young girls since I was 13. Women just don't interest me. I wish
with all my soul that I could have a brain that's wired normally. I
know that I can never act on what I feel, but I need to speak to a
therapist because I don't think I can get through this on my own. But
if I talk to a therapist he could report me, because I have to talk
about my attraction to young girls. I don’t know whether he would or
not and don't even know how to go about getting more information. Even
the friendships I have are in danger of falling apart because I can't
just keep saying 'I'm fine' and I can't talk to anyone about my
problem. I think about suicide a lot. "
matters to us.
>And pre-programming us as puppets would not have provided
>for our absolute sovereignty that He wants us to mature to. Gordon
People don't choose to be pedophiles or rapists or homosexual or
any of the many other deviants.
I suggest you Google "virtuous pedophiles".
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_Pedophiles
Sample:
Virtuous Pedophiles is an Internet-based mutual support group for
pedophiles who acknowledge having a sexual interest in children and do
not act on their desires. Members support each other in trying
to lead normal lives without committing child sexual abuse. Members
share the belief that sexual activity between adults and children is
wrong and always will be.
From http://www.virped.org/
" I’m a 20-year-old man who has been trying to deal with an attraction
to young girls since I was 13. Women just don't interest me. I wish
with all my soul that I could have a brain that's wired normally. I
know that I can never act on what I feel, but I need to speak to a
therapist because I don't think I can get through this on my own. But
if I talk to a therapist he could report me, because I have to talk
about my attraction to young girls. I don’t know whether he would or
not and don't even know how to go about getting more information. Even
the friendships I have are in danger of falling apart because I can't
just keep saying 'I'm fine' and I can't talk to anyone about my
problem. I think about suicide a lot. "
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 11, 2016, 7:00:21 PM6/11/16
to
>the dukester, American-American
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 11, 2016, 7:06:54 PM6/11/16
to
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>
>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>
>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>
>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>
>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>
>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>
>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
and we are therefore not responsible?
>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>heaven when we die.
>
>More like hell.
If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>>heaven when we die.
>
>More like hell.
>>>We are now going
>>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>>
>>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>>things.
>
>You're experiencing yours now.
From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
>the dukester, American-American
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 7:19:48 PM6/11/16
to
In article <6e6olbdbr9b1bmtd4...@4ax.com>,
to respond to?
Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:49:47 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> >><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
> >>>wrote:
> >
> >>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
> >>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
> >>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
> >>>
> >>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
> >>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
> >>>
> >>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
> >>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
> >>all forms of sin. Gordon
> >
> >No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
> >from the start.
> >
> On God's time scale, eternity, or on out time scale? That which we are
> presently going through may seem very long and tedious to us, from our
> time perspective but it may be only an instant on God's time scale.
> Gordon
What the fuck does that have to do with the comment you were pretending
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:49:47 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:07:52 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:48 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> >><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:01:25 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
> >>>wrote:
> >
> >>>>Rethink this a bit. God cannot lie. God cannot go back on his word.
> >>>>God cannot embrace evil. And many other such restrictions that He has
> >>>>placed upon Himself. Gordon
> >>>
> >>>That makes sense as God does not sin and the only way for a person
> >>>to not sin is for them to be a robot.
> >>>
> >>Or, to learn enough about the cumulative effects of sin and mature to
> >>a level of overall understanding that will enable us to avoid any and
> >>all forms of sin. Gordon
> >
> >No, because if that was possible God would have made us that way
> >from the start.
> >
> On God's time scale, eternity, or on out time scale? That which we are
> presently going through may seem very long and tedious to us, from our
> time perspective but it may be only an instant on God's time scale.
> Gordon
to respond to?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 7:21:37 PM6/11/16
to
In article <lreolbhh87qaqolfs...@4ax.com>,
Why does your god want that when all anyone will do in heaven is bow
down to it 24/7 for all eternity. No maturity needed; in fact, maturity
would be a hindrance. No sin allowed means your heaven is pure hell.
down to it 24/7 for all eternity. No maturity needed; in fact, maturity
would be a hindrance. No sin allowed means your heaven is pure hell.
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 7:21:59 PM6/11/16
to
In article <nji09g$qdn$2...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
No, I don't. Please explain.
wrote:
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 7:22:40 PM6/11/16
to
In article <nji03r$qdn$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com>
What question did I avoid answering?
> > and prove how clueless he is about our Constitution. I just knew it.
> >
>
> I asked you direct question. You avoided answering it directly,
> proving that you are clueless about telling the truth.
>
> How's that working for you, Stoopid?
What direct question?
> > and prove how clueless he is about our Constitution. I just knew it.
> >
>
> I asked you direct question. You avoided answering it directly,
> proving that you are clueless about telling the truth.
>
> How's that working for you, Stoopid?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 11, 2016, 7:23:14 PM6/11/16
to
In article <njhvna$o9m$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com>
The next question is why you think I have the power to suppress
anybody's speech.
anybody's speech.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Jun 11, 2016, 10:11:08 PM6/11/16
to
Barry Heisenberg wrote in part:
able and willing to prevent evil by helping us successfully
(Philippians 4:13) http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart
(Matthew 15:19) which would otherwise drag (Jeremiah 17:9) us to
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing evil as Epicurus has noted.
Those of us who are born again (John 3:3 & 5) can prove that our
benevolent (Jeremiah 9:24) omnipotent GOD exists as explained at
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
Barry Heisenberg asked:
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
It is written that we are Jesus' friends (John 15:14) if we love (John
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Actually, all who **show** that they personally know (1 John 4:8) GOD
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/pdO7EK7kbKM/Vn8ZMz7VEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwf6QD-REMY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> Actually it's **not** written in the Bible that "you should not
>> believe everything you read."
>
> There is much missing in the bible.
Indeed, the most important thing that is missing in the Bible is
Apostle Paul's secret ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) concerning how
to be hungry and satisfied at the same time.
>> Instead, what's written in the Bible is that all Scripture (2 Timothy
>> 3:16) is useful for learning about what is right.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/13BKRyaSmG0/RBYUk83pEQAJ
> As long as you think genocide is right.
It is written that we're not to lean on our own understanding
(Proverbs 3:5) but to instead trust the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6)
GOD with all our heart, which means to lean on Him to "learn about
what is right."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Cw1-qgKTcpI/tFpT5itVEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Eisenberg wrote:
>>> Duke wrote:
>>>> Barry Eisenberg asked:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen God or not?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> If you are saying people haven't seen God and haven't
>>> not seen God the bible agrees with you.
>>>
>>> Has seen
>>>
>>> (Gen. 17:1)--“Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the
>>> LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; Walk
>>> before Me, and be blameless;"
>>> (Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre,
>>> while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
>>> (Exodus 6:2-3)--"God spoke further to Moses and said to him,
>>> "I am the LORD; 3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God
>>> Almighty, but by My name, LORD, I did not make Myself known to them.”
>>> (Exodus 24:9-11)--“Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and
>>> Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10and they saw the God of
>>> Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of
>>> sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11Yet He did not stretch out His
>>> hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and
>>> they ate and drank.”
>>> (Num. 12:6-8)--“He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a
>>> prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a
>>> vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7"Not so, with My servant
>>> Moses, He is faithful in all My household; 8With him I speak mouth to
>>> mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form
>>> of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant,
>>> against Moses?"
>>> (Acts 7:2), "And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and
>>> fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was
>>> in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran . . . '"
>>>
>>> Has not seen
>>>
>>> (Exodus 33:20)--“But He [God] said, "You cannot see My face,
>>> for no man can see Me and live!"
>>> (John 1:18)--“No one has seen God at any time; the only
>>> begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
>>> (John 5:37)--“"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of
>>> Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
>>> (John 6:46)--"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the
>>> One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
>>> (1 Tim. 6:15-16)--“He who is the blessed and only Sovereign,
>>> the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality
>>> and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.
>>> To Him be honour and eternal dominion! Amen.”
>>
>>
>> "About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from
>> Heaven, brighter than the Sun, blazing around me and my companions. We
>> all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in
>> Aramaic,‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to
>> kick against the goads.’ Then I asked, ‘Who are You, LORD?’ ‘I am
>> Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the LORD replied. ‘Now get up and
>> stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant
>> and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of Me." (Acts
>> 26:13-16)
>>
>> GOD "dwells in unapproachable light" (1 Timothy 6:16) which is
>> "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13) so that if allowed to "behold the
>> form of the LORD" (Numbers 12:8), we'd only be able to look down away
>> from His face to see "under His feet (that) there appeared to be a
>> pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself" (Exodus 24:10) and
>> our faces would be glowing like Moses' reportedly was from being
>> exposed to light that is "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/mP7jhnMBEQAJ
> Has anyone seen God **or** not?
**emphasis** added.
The perfect (Matthew 5:48) **logical** answer to your question is
simply "yes" according to the Holy Spirit-guided exegesis of Biblical
verses given above with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD
:-)
>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>
>>> What Would Jesus NOT Do?
>> LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth would not ask "How are you ?" simply
>> because He already knows with the latter being consistent with His
>> being GOD (John 20:28).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/cGsEdDBohnM/5rG4q1LUAwAJ
> Nothing useful apparently.
Indeed everything LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth does is useful :-)
> How are you HeartDoc Andrew?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/SQHWVRcDEQAJ
I am "wonderfully hungry" ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Barry, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of "Trust the Truth - Only the truth can cure the 'hunger
is starvation' delusion:"
http://WDJW.net/T3Book
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://WDJW.net/Matt1619
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry
>
> From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>
> "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing?
> Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing?
> Then whence cometh evil?
> Is he neither able nor willing?
> Then why call him God?"
This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) shares that GOD is both
> From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>
> "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing?
> Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing?
> Then whence cometh evil?
> Is he neither able nor willing?
> Then why call him God?"
able and willing to prevent evil by helping us successfully
(Philippians 4:13) http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the heart
(Matthew 15:19) which would otherwise drag (Jeremiah 17:9) us to
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing evil as Epicurus has noted.
Those of us who are born again (John 3:3 & 5) can prove that our
benevolent (Jeremiah 9:24) omnipotent GOD exists as explained at
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
Barry Heisenberg asked:
>
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
It is written that with GOD, all things are possible (Matthew 19:26)
> Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
15:12) each other as He loves (John 15:13) us and that we, who are
Jesus' friends are recognized (John 13:35) by this greater (John
15:13) love that we have for one another.
Just as Jesus loves us by convincing us of our needs as in the example
of His convincing Peter of his needing his feet washed by Him, we love
one another when we http://WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward our need to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in **all** ways including especially
caring to "convince it forward."
> Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
will agree it's written that "GOD is love" :-)
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/pdO7EK7kbKM/Vn8ZMz7VEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>> Barry Heisenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Duke wrote:
>>>>>>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwf6QD-REMY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is meaningless to say God is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> We already know that.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it is written that **only** GOD is good (Matthew 19:17).
>>
>>> It is also written you should not believe everything you read.
>>
>> Actually it's **not** written in the Bible that "you should not
>> believe everything you read."
>
> There is much missing in the bible.
Indeed, the most important thing that is missing in the Bible is
Apostle Paul's secret ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) concerning how
to be hungry and satisfied at the same time.
>> Instead, what's written in the Bible is that all Scripture (2 Timothy
>> 3:16) is useful for learning about what is right.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/13BKRyaSmG0/RBYUk83pEQAJ
> As long as you think genocide is right.
It is written that we're not to lean on our own understanding
(Proverbs 3:5) but to instead trust the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6)
GOD with all our heart, which means to lean on Him to "learn about
what is right."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Cw1-qgKTcpI/tFpT5itVEgAJ
Barry Heisenberg wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Barry Eisenberg wrote:
>>> Duke wrote:
>>>> Barry Eisenberg asked:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen God or not?
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> If you are saying people haven't seen God and haven't
>>> not seen God the bible agrees with you.
>>>
>>> Has seen
>>>
>>> (Gen. 17:1)--“Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the
>>> LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; Walk
>>> before Me, and be blameless;"
>>> (Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre,
>>> while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
>>> (Exodus 6:2-3)--"God spoke further to Moses and said to him,
>>> "I am the LORD; 3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God
>>> Almighty, but by My name, LORD, I did not make Myself known to them.”
>>> (Exodus 24:9-11)--“Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and
>>> Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10and they saw the God of
>>> Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of
>>> sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. 11Yet He did not stretch out His
>>> hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and
>>> they ate and drank.”
>>> (Num. 12:6-8)--“He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a
>>> prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a
>>> vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7"Not so, with My servant
>>> Moses, He is faithful in all My household; 8With him I speak mouth to
>>> mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form
>>> of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant,
>>> against Moses?"
>>> (Acts 7:2), "And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and
>>> fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was
>>> in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran . . . '"
>>>
>>> Has not seen
>>>
>>> (Exodus 33:20)--“But He [God] said, "You cannot see My face,
>>> for no man can see Me and live!"
>>> (John 1:18)--“No one has seen God at any time; the only
>>> begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
>>> (John 5:37)--“"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of
>>> Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
>>> (John 6:46)--"Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the
>>> One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
>>> (1 Tim. 6:15-16)--“He who is the blessed and only Sovereign,
>>> the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality
>>> and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see.
>>> To Him be honour and eternal dominion! Amen.”
>>
>>
>> "About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from
>> Heaven, brighter than the Sun, blazing around me and my companions. We
>> all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in
>> Aramaic,‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to
>> kick against the goads.’ Then I asked, ‘Who are You, LORD?’ ‘I am
>> Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the LORD replied. ‘Now get up and
>> stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant
>> and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of Me." (Acts
>> 26:13-16)
>>
>> GOD "dwells in unapproachable light" (1 Timothy 6:16) which is
>> "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13) so that if allowed to "behold the
>> form of the LORD" (Numbers 12:8), we'd only be able to look down away
>> from His face to see "under His feet (that) there appeared to be a
>> pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself" (Exodus 24:10) and
>> our faces would be glowing like Moses' reportedly was from being
>> exposed to light that is "brighter than the Sun" (Acts 26:13).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/mP7jhnMBEQAJ
> Has anyone seen God **or** not?
**emphasis** added.
The perfect (Matthew 5:48) **logical** answer to your question is
simply "yes" according to the Holy Spirit-guided exegesis of Biblical
verses given above with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD
:-)
>> Barry Heisenberg asked:
>>
>>> What Would Jesus NOT Do?
>> LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth would not ask "How are you ?" simply
>> because He already knows with the latter being consistent with His
>> being GOD (John 20:28).
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/cGsEdDBohnM/5rG4q1LUAwAJ
> Nothing useful apparently.
Indeed everything LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth does is useful :-)
> How are you HeartDoc Andrew?
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/u1-4wTOL9Yo/SQHWVRcDEQAJ
I am "wonderfully hungry" ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Barry, also have a healthy appetite too :-)
So how are you ?
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and author of "Trust the Truth - Only the truth can cure the 'hunger
is starvation' delusion:"
http://WDJW.net/T3Book
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://WDJW.net/1Cor123
What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://WDJW.net/Matt1619
What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://bit.ly/TerriblyHungry
duke
Jun 12, 2016, 10:13:30 AM6/12/16
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duke
Jun 12, 2016, 10:22:16 AM6/12/16
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Jesus Christ.
Gordon
Jun 12, 2016, 1:53:28 PM6/12/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
we humans could be matured to a level of absolute competence. When we
are moved on to the next level of existence we will know enough about
all the vagaries of sin and rebellion to assure God that NONE of us
will EVER want to go back and mess around with this again. We will
then do God's will because God's will and our wills shall then be
exactly and precisely the same. We won't be pre-programmed puppets. We
won't be intimidated slaves. We will be immortal, absolutely sovereign
beings. Gordon
bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
we now experience will stop. Gordon
Gordon.
>>the dukester, American-American
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>
>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>
>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>
>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>and we are therefore not responsible?
>
Yes, and it is called sovereign will. There was/is no other way that
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>
>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>
>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>
>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>and we are therefore not responsible?
>
we humans could be matured to a level of absolute competence. When we
are moved on to the next level of existence we will know enough about
all the vagaries of sin and rebellion to assure God that NONE of us
will EVER want to go back and mess around with this again. We will
then do God's will because God's will and our wills shall then be
exactly and precisely the same. We won't be pre-programmed puppets. We
won't be intimidated slaves. We will be immortal, absolutely sovereign
beings. Gordon
>
>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>heaven when we die.
>>
>>More like hell.
>
>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>
Heaven will be a place where there is nothing that could be classed as
>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>heaven when we die.
>>
>>More like hell.
>
>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>
bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
we now experience will stop. Gordon
>
>>>>We are now going
>>>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>>>
>>>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>>>things.
>>
>>You're experiencing yours now.
>
>Why would an eternal being need time to achieve anything?
>
He doesn't...we do. Gordon
>>>>We are now going
>>>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>>>
>>>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>>>things.
>>
>>You're experiencing yours now.
>
>Why would an eternal being need time to achieve anything?
>
>
>From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>
>"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
>Then he is not omnipotent.
>Is he able, but not willing?
>Then he is malevolent.
>Is he both able and willing?
>Then whence cometh evil?
>Is he neither able nor willing?
>Then why call him God?"
>
There are many errors in this thinking but I've gone over them before.
>From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>
>"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
>Then he is not omnipotent.
>Is he able, but not willing?
>Then he is malevolent.
>Is he both able and willing?
>Then whence cometh evil?
>Is he neither able nor willing?
>Then why call him God?"
>
Gordon.
>>the dukester, American-American
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 12, 2016, 3:32:55 PM6/12/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:22:16 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:36:47 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:36:47 -0500, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 12, 2016, 3:45:51 PM6/12/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:53:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
Is there no way God could have made us that way from the beginning?
>>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>>heaven when we die.
>>>
>>>More like hell.
>>
>>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>>
>Heaven will be a place where there is nothing that could be classed as
>bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
>called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
>Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
>will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
>we now experience will stop. Gordon
Will that be a good thing?
>>>>>We are now going
>>>>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>>>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>>>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>>>>things.
>>>
>>>You're experiencing yours now.
>>
>>Why would an eternal being need time to achieve anything?
>>
>He doesn't...we do. Gordon
Why did God make us that way?
>>From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>>
>>"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
>>Then he is not omnipotent.
>>Is he able, but not willing?
>>Then he is malevolent.
>>Is he both able and willing?
>>Then whence cometh evil?
>>Is he neither able nor willing?
>>Then why call him God?"
>>
>There are many errors in this thinking but I've gone over them before.
You seem to have found errors in traditional Christian teaching.
Where do you get your ideas from?
>>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>>heaven when we die.
>>>
>>>More like hell.
>>
>>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>>
>Heaven will be a place where there is nothing that could be classed as
>bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
>called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
>Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
>will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
>we now experience will stop. Gordon
>>>>>We are now going
>>>>>through the phase that will eventually separate all that is good from
>>>>>all that is not good and there will be an eternal barrier (cosmic
>>>>>nexus, maybe) between the two realms.
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering why an eternal being needs time to achieve these
>>>>things.
>>>
>>>You're experiencing yours now.
>>
>>Why would an eternal being need time to achieve anything?
>>
>He doesn't...we do. Gordon
>>From Greek philosopher Epicurius,
>>
>>"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
>>Then he is not omnipotent.
>>Is he able, but not willing?
>>Then he is malevolent.
>>Is he both able and willing?
>>Then whence cometh evil?
>>Is he neither able nor willing?
>>Then why call him God?"
>>
>There are many errors in this thinking but I've gone over them before.
Where do you get your ideas from?
MattB
Jun 12, 2016, 3:50:26 PM6/12/16
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on this subject. You Earl Weber are a hate filled fundie.
duke
Jun 12, 2016, 5:01:10 PM6/12/16
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still don't get it.
duke
Jun 12, 2016, 5:03:34 PM6/12/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
personal desire.
>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>heaven when we die.
>>
>>More like hell.
>
>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
Nope, heaven is for those that choose to overcome evil in their personal desire.
You don't.
wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>
>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>
>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>
>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>and we are therefore not responsible?
Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>
>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>
>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>
>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>and we are therefore not responsible?
personal desire.
>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>heaven when we die.
>>
>>More like hell.
>
>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
You don't.
duke
Jun 12, 2016, 5:04:29 PM6/12/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 05:32:52 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
No, he said his coming will cause strife between those that listen to him and
those like you that refuse to.
those like you that refuse to.
MattB
Jun 12, 2016, 5:11:09 PM6/12/16
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Weber aka Duke. I agree.
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 12, 2016, 7:01:49 PM6/12/16
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In article <lt7rlbh4fb06d33tb...@4ax.com>,
What you described IS slavery. It is pre-programmed puppets.
Are you really this stupid?
> >>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
> >>>heaven when we die.
> >>
> >>More like hell.
> >
> >If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
> >
> Heaven will be a place where there is nothing that could be classed as
> bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
> called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
> Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
> will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
> we now experience will stop. Gordon
What's the scripture for that?
Are you really this stupid?
> >>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
> >>>heaven when we die.
> >>
> >>More like hell.
> >
> >If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
> >
> Heaven will be a place where there is nothing that could be classed as
> bad. All that is classed as bad will be moved into that other domain
> called Hell. Think of Hell as something similar to the reversal of the
> Big Bang. This universe and all the "bad" things that remain in it
> will return to an infinitesimally small point and this time frame that
> we now experience will stop. Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 12:25:23 AM6/13/16
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:03:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>>
>>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>
>>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>>
>>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>
>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>personal desire.
And our personal desire is given to us by God?
>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:17:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:16:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:05:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:11 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>>>>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Did God freely choose to create Satan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, and the reason for this and other such situations is that God's
>>>>>creation project was intended to become absolutely perfect. Had God
>>>>>not created Satan and all the evil that we are currently immersed in,
>>>>>His creation would have been less than absolutely complete and
>>>>>therefore could never be refined to a perfect state.
>>>>
>>>>So God created all the evil and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>
>>>Evil is an attitude, one personally selected by men like you.
>>
>>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>
>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>personal desire.
We could not have a desire unless God put that ability into
our brain.
>>>>If that is true then God will not judge and we will all be trapped in
>>>>heaven when we die.
>>>
>>>More like hell.
>>
>>If the bible is true heaven will be more like hell.
>
>Nope, heaven is for those that choose to overcome evil in their personal desire.
>You don't.
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 12:26:54 AM6/13/16
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a sword.
Gordon
Jun 13, 2016, 11:31:22 AM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
But, keep in mind that Satan will take advantage of our mental
function when allowed to do so. Gordon
function when allowed to do so. Gordon
dolf
Jun 13, 2016, 11:49:34 AM6/13/16
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when you are so feeble minded--you are just a little plaything as rag-doll.
Taken by him as a gorilla might and raged about...
Those Who Kept My Word: They Have Hated Without a Cause of 11-13 June 2016
(AEST)
(c) 2016 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 13 June, 2016
I DID ALL THESE AS VOLUNTARY ACTS OF FAITHFULNESS, DEVOTION AND LOYALTY
BEFORE THOSE EVENTS OCCURRED:
a) Wrote words of comfort as My Reading for: Muhammad Ali Memorial @ 0515
HRS 11 JUNE 2016 (Sabbath Day)
Sadly, Rabbi Michael Lerner (representing American Jews) eulogy given at
the Muhammad Ali memorial wasn't as informed as he claims to be--it's easy
to have solidarity with another's belief systems which commonly deploys a
Pythagorean (HETEROS) Theory of Number basis to their Kabbalah System (ie.
Celestial Hierarchy) as a Technology of Soul--Babylonian Harlotry as
Idolatry.
- https://www.facebook.com/woweffects/videos/10208438174504629/
I'm laughing at him and you both in my having as an Intellectual Property,
a mathematical paradigm as an alternative HOMOIOS Theory of Number being a
metaphysical theoretical noumenon and a determined contrivance associated
with attributed time, rationality and the reasoned mind:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² : arch kai telos oida {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10}
Where the c² is equivalent to a constant dependent on n, calculated by the
formula:
M = [n(n² + 1)] / 2
It is not a claim that the earth and universe is only 6,000 years old, but
rather a proposition of relativity within billions of years and a noumenal
focal point as a development by which rationality transpires, reason
springs forth and that is characteristic to being human:
HOMO ('man') / HOMOIOS (*same*, *equal* *in* *force*, *a* *match* *for*
*one*, *all* *one* *to* *us*, of *numbers*, *square*, *the* *product* *of*
*two* *equal* *factors*), SAPIENS ('thinker') / SAPIENT ('being a
wise/wisdom thinker') [Deuteronomy 4:32; Genesis 1:26]
As the relativity and grounding of the Infinite to the temporal reality
(ie. the phenomenology as the deterministic unfolding of history) which is
implied by the notion of rational PI and the cosmogonical Genesis reprise
of the lunar / solar cycle occurring on the equinox of Wednesday 20th March
1996 / New Moon on Thursday 21st March 1996.
A cosmological and calendaring philosophical/theological consideration
associated with the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Jerusalem Jewish Temple
Priestly Service--WILL THE REAL JEW PLEASE STAND UP?
b) Gave written tribute as sovereign support in recognition of Queen
Elizabeth's II 90th birthday celebrations and Her consort Prince Philip's
95th birthday.
c) Wrote a condemnation of the Orlando, Florida 'act of *terror*' as the
worst mass shooting within United States of America's history and gave an
irrefutable Biblical Justification for Same Sex Marriage.
Specific readings were associated to computed 'Categories of
*Understanding*' (ie. SUPER (MALE) IDEA and EGO (FEMALE) IDEA) and obtained
by means of my intellectual property (as a natural endowment) associated to
the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon as a theoretical and metaphysical concept of
the Godhead/Divine Mind--there is no pretense.
dolf: "Well, then make yourselves an altar (eg. sacrifice someone/thing
on/at the altar of) so as to wail, gibber and squawk impunities of
questionable intent, by getting cut up about it all."
I think the idea comes from the story of the prophet Elijah (ie. God the
Lord, the strong Lord) having a stand-off with the priests of Baal: [1
Kings 18:24-39 (KJV)]"
dolf: "How readest thou?"
Skeet DoW #420 (kooks): "It was one of my better moments."
dolf: "Managing flystrike on *wethered* sheep.
Wethers (ie. castrated) are less aggressive than rams:
'Preventing flystrike is more economical than treating it. Short term
management tools such as *strategic* *chemical* *application*, *crutching*
and shearing, and controlling worms and *dags* will be beneficial in the
short term, whilst producers looking for a longer term solution should
investigate genetic options such as *breeding* for reduced *dags* and
*wrinkle*.'"
But what complaint can a senile impotent prick, a dag festering arsehole
and a coward with no balls ('wethered') that you are--by hiding under a
cloak of anonymity, when you can only bleat (ie. speak or complain in a
weak, querulous, or foolish way) as an onomatopoeia. [dictionary.com Word
of the Day: 8 June, 2016]"
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w0Vzjf0b5M
The Revenge of the Mosquitoes (ie. skeeters) of 27-30 May, 2016 (AEST)
-
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=462984260562082&id=100005515364934
d) Not to mention producing a justification for the Afghanistan and Iraqi
Wars as defence for British Prime Minister Tony Blair's following the
Chilcott Inquiry.
e) And did I forget helping out the Americans as well? Worked on that since
1996.
God Bless America: (A Life of Brian WTF Moment - The UFO Pickup) of 5-10
June, 2016
-
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=466133506913824&id=100005515364934
dolf: "As you are without any *foundation* and have the moral scruples of a
dag festering ANAL-SADISTIC (ie. displaying abnormal aggressive and
destructive tendencies supposedly caused by fixation at the anal stage of
development) MAGGOT--racist that you are."
Those Who Kept My Word: They Have Hated Without a Cause of 11-13 June 2016
(AEST)
-
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=468374840023024&id=100005515364934
VANITY OH VANITY THOU ART MY KING, GREATER WORDS I CANNOT SING.
- dolf
duke
Jun 13, 2016, 2:59:38 PM6/13/16
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protest_er fundies.
duke
Jun 13, 2016, 3:01:27 PM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
He taught you love, good, right. And told you to avoid hate, bad and wrong. If
you can't do the right thing, its all in your desire not to.
you can't do the right thing, its all in your desire not to.
duke
Jun 13, 2016, 3:02:40 PM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
stand a chance.
stand a chance.
MattB
Jun 13, 2016, 3:45:11 PM6/13/16
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your priest needs to be replaced if you are the result of his
teaching. You defend Pedophile Priest and lie and support killing
those that disagree with you. Plus you claim to read minds.
BCC:
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 6:12:26 PM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:31:15 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:03:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
mental state then creates a being that takes advantage
of that.
No wonder you hate God so much!
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:03:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>>>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>
>>>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>>>personal desire.
>>
>>And our personal desire is given to us by God?
>>We could not have a desire unless God put that ability into
>>our brain.
>>
>But, keep in mind that Satan will take advantage of our mental
>function when allowed to do so. Gordon
So God is doubly guilty? He creates us with a weakened
>>>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>
>>>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>>>personal desire.
>>
>>And our personal desire is given to us by God?
>>We could not have a desire unless God put that ability into
>>our brain.
>>
>But, keep in mind that Satan will take advantage of our mental
>function when allowed to do so. Gordon
mental state then creates a being that takes advantage
of that.
No wonder you hate God so much!
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 6:17:24 PM6/13/16
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No wonder you are so confused!
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 6:19:47 PM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>>Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. He came to bring
>>a sword.
>
>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>stand a chance.
What sort of God creates a world where life feeds off life and
>>a sword.
>
>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>stand a chance.
only the strongest survive?
Gordon
Jun 13, 2016, 6:26:54 PM6/13/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:12:23 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
am capable of. He has set us humans up for the only training/learning
process that would have ever cleared us for promotion to immortality
and absolute sovereignty. While going through this mortal phase of our
existence we must learn enough about all the individual and cumulative
effects of all forms of sin and rebellion to assure God that we will
NEVER, EVER want to go back and mess around with it any more once
we've been moved on up to our next level of existence. When we have
completed this training phase our own sovereign will shall then be
exactly and precisely the same as God's will. And, it is necessary
that this learning process proceeds along the paths we choose by our
own sovereign will. That is, God did not pre-program us as puppets nor
did He intimidate us into compliance as slaves. Sovereign will is the
key point.
And, keep in mind that God's time scale is not the same as ours. This
learning process that we are now going through may seem very long and
harsh but from God's time frame (eternity) it may be only a very brief
instant. Gordon
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:31:15 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:03:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>>>>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>>
>>>>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>>>>personal desire.
>>>
>>>And our personal desire is given to us by God?
>>>We could not have a desire unless God put that ability into
>>>our brain.
>>>
>>But, keep in mind that Satan will take advantage of our mental
>>function when allowed to do so. Gordon
>
>So God is doubly guilty? He creates us with a weakened
>mental state then creates a being that takes advantage
>of that.
>No wonder you hate God so much!
>
I do not hate God. I love and respect Him to the maximum extent that I
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:31:15 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:25:22 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:03:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:07:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>So God created the human brain with the ability and desire to sin
>>>>>and we are therefore not responsible?
>>>>
>>>>Wrong. Your brain is not self acting. Your evil actions come from your
>>>>personal desire.
>>>
>>>And our personal desire is given to us by God?
>>>We could not have a desire unless God put that ability into
>>>our brain.
>>>
>>But, keep in mind that Satan will take advantage of our mental
>>function when allowed to do so. Gordon
>
>So God is doubly guilty? He creates us with a weakened
>mental state then creates a being that takes advantage
>of that.
>No wonder you hate God so much!
>
am capable of. He has set us humans up for the only training/learning
process that would have ever cleared us for promotion to immortality
and absolute sovereignty. While going through this mortal phase of our
existence we must learn enough about all the individual and cumulative
effects of all forms of sin and rebellion to assure God that we will
NEVER, EVER want to go back and mess around with it any more once
we've been moved on up to our next level of existence. When we have
completed this training phase our own sovereign will shall then be
exactly and precisely the same as God's will. And, it is necessary
that this learning process proceeds along the paths we choose by our
own sovereign will. That is, God did not pre-program us as puppets nor
did He intimidate us into compliance as slaves. Sovereign will is the
key point.
And, keep in mind that God's time scale is not the same as ours. This
learning process that we are now going through may seem very long and
harsh but from God's time frame (eternity) it may be only a very brief
instant. Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 6:55:59 PM6/13/16
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:26:47 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
Which is your way of saying you don't love God, right?
>He has set us humans up for the only training/learning
>process that would have ever cleared us for promotion to immortality
>and absolute sovereignty. While going through this mortal phase of our
>existence we must learn enough about all the individual and cumulative
>effects of all forms of sin and rebellion to assure God that we will
>NEVER, EVER want to go back and mess around with it any more once
>we've been moved on up to our next level of existence. When we have
>completed this training phase our own sovereign will shall then be
>exactly and precisely the same as God's will.
And there is no way God could have created us that way from
the beginning?
>And, it is necessary
>that this learning process proceeds along the paths we choose by our
>own sovereign will. That is, God did not pre-program us as puppets nor
>did He intimidate us into compliance as slaves. Sovereign will is the
>key point.
If not God who did program us as puppets with us unable to
choose our personality and having unwanted desires forced
on us?
>And, keep in mind that God's time scale is not the same as ours. This
>learning process that we are now going through may seem very long and
>harsh but from God's time frame (eternity) it may be only a very brief
>instant. Gordon
So God needs to learn what matters to us?
>He has set us humans up for the only training/learning
>process that would have ever cleared us for promotion to immortality
>and absolute sovereignty. While going through this mortal phase of our
>existence we must learn enough about all the individual and cumulative
>effects of all forms of sin and rebellion to assure God that we will
>NEVER, EVER want to go back and mess around with it any more once
>we've been moved on up to our next level of existence. When we have
>completed this training phase our own sovereign will shall then be
>exactly and precisely the same as God's will.
the beginning?
>And, it is necessary
>that this learning process proceeds along the paths we choose by our
>own sovereign will. That is, God did not pre-program us as puppets nor
>did He intimidate us into compliance as slaves. Sovereign will is the
>key point.
choose our personality and having unwanted desires forced
on us?
>And, keep in mind that God's time scale is not the same as ours. This
>learning process that we are now going through may seem very long and
>harsh but from God's time frame (eternity) it may be only a very brief
>instant. Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 13, 2016, 10:39:07 PM6/13/16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
A Personal Relationship with Jesus
NonStampCollector
Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
us.
A Personal Relationship with Jesus
NonStampCollector
Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
us.
Gordon
Jun 14, 2016, 6:52:30 AM6/14/16
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turn people away from God. And, it works! Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 14, 2016, 7:34:53 AM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:52:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
wrote:
Do you think God knows that?
If God does know it must be what God wants.
Why do you think God wants Satan to intervene in our
thinking and actions and turn people away from God?
wrote:
If God does know it must be what God wants.
Why do you think God wants Satan to intervene in our
thinking and actions and turn people away from God?
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 14, 2016, 7:41:43 AM6/14/16
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In article <gdovlbpf5v12jdkbr...@4ax.com>,
have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
world.
Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >
> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >NonStampCollector
> >
> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >
> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >
> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >us.
> >
> Satan is intervening
Until you provide evidence that this Satan person exists, you really
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >
> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >NonStampCollector
> >
> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >
> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >
> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >us.
> >
> Satan is intervening
have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
world.
Gordon
Jun 14, 2016, 8:40:51 AM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:35:00 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
go through this hands on learning phase with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the individual and collective effects of sin
and rebellion. With this level of learning we should NEVER, EVER want
to go back and explore anything in this realm once we've been moved on
to immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon
<Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:52:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>NonStampCollector
>>>
>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>us.
>>>
>>Satan is intervening in our thinking and actions. His purpose is to
>>turn people away from God. And, it works! Gordon
>
>Do you think God knows that?
>If God does know it must be what God wants.
>Why do you think God wants Satan to intervene in our
>thinking and actions and turn people away from God?
>
The answer to this set of questions is that God is letting us humans
>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:52:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>><Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>>>
>>>A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>>>NonStampCollector
>>>
>>>Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>>>
>>>Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>>>wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>>>Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>>>three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>>>
>>>Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>>>Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>>>Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>>>us.
>>>
>>Satan is intervening in our thinking and actions. His purpose is to
>>turn people away from God. And, it works! Gordon
>
>Do you think God knows that?
>If God does know it must be what God wants.
>Why do you think God wants Satan to intervene in our
>thinking and actions and turn people away from God?
>
go through this hands on learning phase with the expectation that we
will learn enough about the individual and collective effects of sin
and rebellion. With this level of learning we should NEVER, EVER want
to go back and explore anything in this realm once we've been moved on
to immortality and absolute sovereignty. Gordon
Gordon
Jun 14, 2016, 8:45:10 AM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:41:36 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <gdovlbpf5v12jdkbr...@4ax.com>,
> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>> >
>> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>> >NonStampCollector
>> >
>> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>> >
>> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>> >
>> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>> >us.
>> >
>> Satan is intervening
>
>Until you provide evidence that this Satan person exists, you really
>have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
>world.
>
Jeanne, of course there is no objective, verifiable evidence for this.
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <gdovlbpf5v12jdkbr...@4ax.com>,
> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
>> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
>>
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
>> >
>> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
>> >NonStampCollector
>> >
>> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
>> >
>> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
>> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
>> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
>> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
>> >
>> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
>> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
>> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
>> >us.
>> >
>> Satan is intervening
>
>Until you provide evidence that this Satan person exists, you really
>have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
>world.
>
The bottom line is that you and all of us have a sovereign choice as
to whether or not we accept God and align ourselves with Him. It's
your choice, not mine. Not even God will overwhelm you with objective
proof. But if you, or anyone, volitionally chooses to find God, and
searches with an open, receptive mind set, God will reveal Himself.
Gordon
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 14, 2016, 9:18:00 AM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:40:44 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
If that was possible God would have made it so from the beginning.
Gordon.
Gordon.
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 14, 2016, 9:19:26 AM6/14/16
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duke
Jun 14, 2016, 12:48:11 PM6/14/16
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the bible and Jesus Christ and his Father in Heaven and the Holy Spirit Jesus
sent out to lead us.
>You defend Pedophile Priest and lie and support killing
>those that disagree with you. Plus you claim to read minds.
the pervs need to be removed. And if you can establish a case against them in a
civil court, send them to jail.
Why do you object to that?
duke
Jun 14, 2016, 12:50:03 PM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:17:21 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
God doesn't give us desires. He gives us the good sense and the proper guidance
to get us to elect to turn against the hate, bad, wrong and to embrace the love,
good, right in love of God.
>>the dukester, American-American
to get us to elect to turn against the hate, bad, wrong and to embrace the love,
good, right in love of God.
>>the dukester, American-American
duke
Jun 14, 2016, 12:50:37 PM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:19:44 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. He came to bring
>>>a sword.
>>
>>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>>stand a chance.
>
>What sort of God creates a world where life feeds off life and
>only the strongest survive?
Ah, getting nervous, aren't you.
>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. He came to bring
>>>a sword.
>>
>>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>>stand a chance.
>
>What sort of God creates a world where life feeds off life and
>only the strongest survive?
Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 14, 2016, 3:16:07 PM6/14/16
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Lucifer Morningstar
Jun 14, 2016, 3:18:15 PM6/14/16
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:50:32 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:19:44 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. He came to bring
>>>>a sword.
>>>
>>>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>>>stand a chance.
>>
>>What sort of God creates a world where life feeds off life and
>>only the strongest survive?
>
>Ah, getting nervous, aren't you.
I think it is you that is getting nervous because you know
>On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:19:44 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:26:54 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar <Ba...@saymyname.com>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. He came to bring
>>>>a sword.
>>>
>>>Right: love v hate, right v wrong, good v bad. If you don't change, you don't
>>>stand a chance.
>>
>>What sort of God creates a world where life feeds off life and
>>only the strongest survive?
>
>Ah, getting nervous, aren't you.
there is no answer that will make your God look good.
But you criticise God often so I think you could answer.
MattB
Jun 14, 2016, 5:20:02 PM6/14/16
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shows that the RCC is not lead by the Holy Spirit.
>
>>You defend Pedophile Priest and lie and support killing
>>those that disagree with you. Plus you claim to read minds.
>
>Oh, come, come, little loser boy. You've been told over and over and over that
>the pervs need to be removed. And if you can establish a case against them in a
>civil court, send them to jail.
upset you Church also. They like the limitations to prosecution for
your Pedophile Priest.
Jeanne Douglas
Jun 14, 2016, 9:21:17 PM6/14/16
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Jeanne Douglas
Jun 14, 2016, 9:21:45 PM6/14/16
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In article <rquvlbdtr6l15ml0t...@4ax.com>,
Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:41:36 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <gdovlbpf5v12jdkbr...@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> >> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >> >
> >> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >> >NonStampCollector
> >> >
> >> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >> >
> >> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >> >
> >> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >> >us.
> >> >
> >> Satan is intervening
> >
> >Until you provide evidence that this Satan person exists, you really
> >have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
> >world.
> >
> Jeanne, of course there is no objective, verifiable evidence for this.
Which means believing it exists is both stupid and insane.
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:41:36 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <gdovlbpf5v12jdkbr...@4ax.com>,
> > Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:39:04 +1000, Lucifer Morningstar
> >> <Ba...@saymyname.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
> >> >
> >> >A Personal Relationship with Jesus
> >> >NonStampCollector
> >> >
> >> >Uploaded on 7 Mar 2009
> >> >
> >> >Is it possible for three people to have a common friend, but have
> >> >wildly different views about him, his views and his character?
> >> >Wouldn't that indicate that at least two of them, and possibly all
> >> >three of them, were mistaken, or lying?
> >> >
> >> >Well, why can't people who claim to have a personal relationship with
> >> >Jesus agree on what he wants and what he's like?
> >> >Well, there's an answer to that question that is obvious to most of
> >> >us.
> >> >
> >> Satan is intervening
> >
> >Until you provide evidence that this Satan person exists, you really
> >have no basis for discussing what it does as if it happens in the real
> >world.
> >
> Jeanne, of course there is no objective, verifiable evidence for this.
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