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Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:18:46 AM6/14/11
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Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
Dr. Chung:

Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that
you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions
and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is
out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in
the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers
more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to
it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website.
How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-
perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would
conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work
to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me
or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you
may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once
again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a
censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and
all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a
professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with
your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:23:01 AM6/14/11
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it.I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac

Spock

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Jun 14, 2011, 10:09:34 AM6/14/11
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"Brian Gene Kelley, PhD" <white...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"PS - Oh, and kindly go fuck yourself"

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 14, 2011, 12:06:58 PM6/14/11
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On 6/14/2011 9:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:

Sightwalker, please tell me about this letter so I know if I should be
taking your advice? Is it true you're looked on as a pariah in the
cardiology community? Is it also true you've been asked not to return to
a church as was posted here? Who really is this person we know as
"sightwalker"?
Jimmy "just askin" Alpha

Spock

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Jun 14, 2011, 1:22:30 PM6/14/11
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"Jimmy Alpha" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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> On 6/14/2011 9:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>
> Is it true you're looked on as a pariah in the cardiology community?

He's looked on as a pariah in the reality community.

Rod

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Jun 14, 2011, 5:39:20 PM6/14/11
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On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:

This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
came into possession of it ?

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 14, 2011, 5:57:02 PM6/14/11
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On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
> came into possession of it ?

So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?
Jimmy "who feels it is real, and true" Alpha

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:53:15 PM6/14/11
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On Jun 14, 2:39 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>
> > Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
>    This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>    came into possession of it ?

I'm sorry, but that's classified.

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 14, 2011, 10:33:06 PM6/14/11
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On Jun 14, 2:57 pm, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>
> > On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> >> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
> > This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
> > came into possession of it ?
>
> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
> the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?
> Jimmy "who feels it is real, and true" Alpha

Mr. Chung is the original publisher of these materials to Usenet. My
guess is he does it to expose those who persecute him... or something
like that <shrug>. There's also a detailed article about Mr. Chung's
police arrest posted by him buried in the archives, that gets re-
posted from time to time. Lots of stuff like that buried is in the
archives. I don't bother looking for it, but as Rod pointed out,
someone finds it and brings it to my attention, such as the video
Chung made of himself listening to an answering machine message
telling him he's being excommunicated.

I guess maybe Rod thinks some sort of espionage slash net-stalking is
going on, but none is needed. Mr. Chung himself has always been the
exclusive supplier.

Spock

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Jun 14, 2011, 11:18:34 PM6/14/11
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"Brian Gene Kelley, PhD" <white...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I have a level 9 security clearance. Please, do tell.

Rod

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Jun 15, 2011, 10:17:39 PM6/15/11
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On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>
>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>> came into possession of it ?
>
> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know?

I'm wondering how it made it's way to usenet. I have no idea if it is
true or not.

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 15, 2011, 10:27:46 PM6/15/11
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On 6/15/2011 10:17 PM, Rod wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>>
>>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>>> came into possession of it ?
>>
>> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know?
>
> I'm wondering how it made it's way to usenet. I have no idea if it is
> true or not.

I'm sure it''s true, sightwalker is wicked in ways I've seen.
Jimmy "taking it to the bank" Alpha

Rod

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Jun 15, 2011, 10:32:20 PM6/15/11
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On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>
>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>> came into possession of it ?
>
> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
> the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?

I see it in this light. It was addressed to Andrew, so how is it that
it comes into someone else's possession(not you)if it is Andrews
property, since as I said it has been posted before. Did Andrew post
it ? No, I doubt that Andrew would make a move like this to sabotage
his career and make himself a laughing stock, so this leaves only two
choices left; it was stolen from Andrew...or

it's a fake. I would like to know as well, so I'm going to contact
Frank Hildner and inquire of him.

And yes Andrew...I'll pray for Jimmy!

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 15, 2011, 10:40:08 PM6/15/11
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On 6/15/2011 10:32 PM, Rod wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>>
>>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>>> came into possession of it ?
>>
>> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
>> the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?
>
> I see it in this light. It was addressed to Andrew, so how is it that
> it comes into someone else's possession(not you)if it is Andrews
> property, since as I said it has been posted before. Did Andrew post
> it ? No, I doubt that Andrew would make a move like this to sabotage
> his career and make himself a laughing stock, so this leaves only two
> choices left; it was stolen from Andrew...or

I'm going with sightwalker posted it himself, and he already is a
"laughing stock" in the news groups, but you know that...


>
> it's a fake. I would like to know as well, so I'm going to contact
> Frank Hildner and inquire of him.
>
> And yes Andrew...I'll pray for Jimmy!

Yes please do, I'd like a new Mini Cooper, white with racing strips so I
know who prayed it to me.
Jimmy "thanking you" Alpha

Rod

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Jun 16, 2011, 9:06:40 AM6/16/11
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On 6/15/2011 9:40 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> On 6/15/2011 10:32 PM, Rod wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>>>
>>>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>>>> came into possession of it ?
>>>
>>> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
>>> the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?

So how is it that you are in possession of it ?

>>
>> I see it in this light. It was addressed to Andrew, so how is it that
>> it comes into someone else's possession(not you)if it is Andrews
>> property, since as I said it has been posted before. Did Andrew post
>> it ? No, I doubt that Andrew would make a move like this to sabotage
>> his career and make himself a laughing stock, so this leaves only two
>> choices left; it was stolen from Andrew...or
>
> I'm going with sightwalker posted it himself, and he already is a
> "laughing stock" in the news groups, but you know that...

What I know is that he is surviving it and continues to function
for God. You are not going to beat him. You are striving against the
will and might of God, not of Andrew.

>>
>> it's a fake. I would like to know as well, so I'm going to contact
>> Frank Hildner and inquire of him.
>>
>> And yes Andrew...I'll pray for Jimmy!
>
> Yes please do, I'd like a new Mini Cooper, white with racing strips so I
> know who prayed it to me.

I was thinking of something more modest...like your own two legs ?

> Jimmy "thanking you" Alpha
>

Ace♠

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Jun 16, 2011, 9:12:24 AM6/16/11
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On Jun 15, 7:32 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> > On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
> >> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> >>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
> >> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
> >> came into possession of it ?
>
> > So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
> > the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?
>
>    I see it in this light. It was addressed to Andrew, so how is it that
>    it comes into someone else's possession.... <blah, blah, blah>

Because... ***Mr. Chung posted it himself*** in order to "convict Dr.
Hiidner with his own words" and it became archived. I was able to,
without wasting too much time, trace Chung talking about it six years
ago in June, 2005 - but it goes a lot further back than that. Perhaps
if you apply yourself, you can find the earliest version,
Sherlock :-)!!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f5287ef715bb4929?hl=en

Like I've said Rod, anything you're reading to or about Mr. Chung and
reacting to as new, astonishing, alarming....has been posted and re-
posted going back at least a decade. It's old, old, old recycled news
- you newbie.

Ace♠

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Jun 16, 2011, 9:19:01 AM6/16/11
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You'd think Rod, would apply himself a little better to learn more
about his deranged mentor's history, before climbing into bed with
him. If that boy's not careful, he's going to end up drinking 32 oz of
grape cool-aid in Chungstown, Guyana.

Then again, what can you expect from the son of Jan Drew?

A*

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 16, 2011, 11:00:58 AM6/16/11
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On 6/16/2011 9:06 AM, Rod wrote:
> On 6/15/2011 9:40 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> On 6/15/2011 10:32 PM, Rod wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2011 4:57 PM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2011 5:39 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>>>>>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>>>>>
>>>>> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
>>>>> came into possession of it ?
>>>>
>>>> So you are saying it is true, or don't you know? Sightwalker should set
>>>> the record right either way if the letter is real I would hope?
>
> So how is it that you are in possession of it ?

Only by the use of reply on my news reader.

>>> I see it in this light. It was addressed to Andrew, so how is it that
>>> it comes into someone else's possession(not you)if it is Andrews
>>> property, since as I said it has been posted before. Did Andrew post
>>> it ? No, I doubt that Andrew would make a move like this to sabotage
>>> his career and make himself a laughing stock, so this leaves only two
>>> choices left; it was stolen from Andrew...or
>>
>> I'm going with sightwalker posted it himself, and he already is a
>> "laughing stock" in the news groups, but you know that...
>
> What I know is that he is surviving it and continues to function
> for God. You are not going to beat him. You are striving against the
> will and might of God, not of Andrew.

When sightwalker used a somewhat derogatory name for me I wanted to know
about him, not fight him. He posts public, so in following the golden
rule, I post public.

>>> it's a fake. I would like to know as well, so I'm going to contact
>>> Frank Hildner and inquire of him.
>>>
>>> And yes Andrew...I'll pray for Jimmy!
>>
>> Yes please do, I'd like a new Mini Cooper, white with racing strips so I
>> know who prayed it to me.
>
> I was thinking of something more modest...like your own two legs ?

Legs, I know about legs, but they've been prayed over by so many *I'd*
never know it was of your efforts.

Keep us posted about what you fine out from Dr. Hildner, reply email is
good if what you find is too scandalous for public scrutiny.
Jimmy "thanking you" Alpha

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 16, 2011, 11:01:08 AM6/16/11
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I'm not going to speak ill of Rodney while I await my Mini Cooper, but
he does seem to have a disturbing pattern of following non traditional
spiritual leaders I find in Google.

> Then again, what can you expect from the son of Jan Drew?

Jan Drew?

> A*
Jimmy Alpha

MU BETTER BELIEVE IT

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Jun 16, 2011, 1:05:59 PM6/16/11
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Rod <nhra_...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:it8kec$lh9$1...@dont-email.me:

> On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
> This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
> came into possession of it ?
>

If anything Google possesses it.

It may have made its first appearance on Usenet here:

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f72?
hl=en&dmode=source

Mind the word wrap when cutting and pasting into the address bar of your
browser, otherwise you get "address not found".

Given that Dr. Chung has placed a video of himself being barred from First
Baptist Church Woodstock (a call on his answer phone), the post I've
refenced seems very likely to be genuine.

Mu_Better_Believe_It

Nomad

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Jun 17, 2011, 5:40:15 AM6/17/11
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On Jun 16, 10:05 am, MU BETTER BELIEVE IT <mubet...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:it8kec$lh9$1...@dont-email.me:

>
> > On 6/14/2011 8:18 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> >> Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the letter below to Chung:
>
> >    This has been posted several times before. How is it that you
> >    came into possession of it ?
>
> If anything Google possesses it.
>
> It may have made its first appearance on Usenet here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd8...

> hl=en&dmode=source
>
> Mind the word wrap when cutting and pasting into the address bar of your
> browser, otherwise you get "address not found".
>
> Given that Dr. Chung has placed a video of himself being barred from First
> Baptist Church Woodstock (a call on his answer phone), the post I've
> refenced seems very likely to be genuine.

Another thing that lends credence to it being genuine, is the fact
that Andrew has always defended it and made excuses for it, but he's
never denied its authenticity.

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