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Amazing proofs by LORD Almighty GOD: ASDLC's Pastorio died on April Fool's day and AUK's Kadaitcha Man has been soundly beaten.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 28, 2007, 8:42:30 AM5/28/07
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Behold in wide-eyed wonder:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1ee3bb30a66df202?

Here are the miracles of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

(1) The miracle of the parting of the Red Sea:

http://TruthRUS.org/RedSea

(2) The miracle of the USS Texas surviving both World Wars:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

(3) The miracle of the 2PD-OMER Approach curing type-2 diabetes:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

(4) The miracle of the million-dollar guarantee backing the 2PD-OMER
Approach:

http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee

(5) Patsy's miracle:

http://PatsysMiracle.com

(6) Bob Pastorio (from alt.support.diet.low-carb) dying on April
Fool's day (my condolences to his surviving friends and family during
this their difficult time especially upon their realizing that Patsy's
miracle could have been Bob's miracle has he chosen wisely to turn to
the Great Physician, LORD Jesus Christ):

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

(7) The powerlessness of satan and his cloud of wimpy sockpuppets
(demons):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/14e3bd62940af893?

May GOD annihilate satan soon starting with his pathetic
sockpuppets(demons), in the precious and holy name of HIS one and only
begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ.

Prayerfully in the infinite power of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Kurt Gavin

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May 28, 2007, 9:46:47 AM5/28/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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> Behold in wide-eyed wonder:


I behold in disgust someone brainwashing a five year child into their
dysfunctional cult.



Cubit

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May 28, 2007, 2:21:32 PM5/28/07
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And now another new email address to force posts to people who have blocked
him....

flyingrat

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May 28, 2007, 3:57:28 PM5/28/07
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In article <1180356150.8...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder:
>
"The ejaculate from satan has the consistency and smell of emesis." --
Andrew B Chung
Message-ID: <1165858390....@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

GODEATER

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"Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote in message
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> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have
> blocked him....
> a rotten piece of shit this chung is.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 29, 2007, 1:17:13 PM5/29/07
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Cubit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e96e231ae9ef6e26?

>
> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have blocked
> him....
>

Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
address but from the Holy Spirit.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS drawing you
to the light of the truth,Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

AnonomissX aka ~Melodie~

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May 29, 2007, 1:51:14 PM5/29/07
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I am not usually going to reply to this jerk but here goes:

You are a fool.
You are not a christian.
You are those whom Jesus will repudiate at his comming, you know, those who
he said "but didn't I do powerful works in your name? And I will confess to
them 'Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness'" You are a self-deluding
worker of lawlessness Andrew, and I am ashamed of you.

Your constant harrasment of a man ALREADY DEAD and forcing others to read
the false accusations is pure evil. Your constant nagging posts on this
board belies the undeserved gift of life and free will God gave all of us,
and to suffer the consequences of our actions before God as the ultimate
judge. The apostle Paul asked of men of your ilk "Have you begun ruling with
Christ already, have you?" Heh. You are not a true Christian, you need to
look at yourself, and REPENT.

Now, then, my apologies to others, and Andrew, in this venue, time and time
again....PLONK.

~Melodie~ Aka AnonomissX, a true Christian who normally doesn't toot that
horn in public.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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BlueBrooke

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May 29, 2007, 2:34:27 PM5/29/07
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:14 -0700, "AnonomissX aka ~Melodie~"
<anono...@cox.net> wrote:

>I am not usually going to reply to this jerk but here goes:

I hope you got this out of your system.

>Your constant harrasment of a man ALREADY DEAD and forcing others to read

No one is forcing you to do anything. Use your killfiles, like the
rest of us do. And for crying out loud, don't RE-post all this
nonsense!

--
BlueBrooke
254/237/135 since 31/12/2007

Ch...@xtra.co.nz

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May 29, 2007, 3:31:56 PM5/29/07
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On May 30, 5:17 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>
>
> Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> address but from the Holy Spirit.

Read what?... your retarded drivel?

Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
insecurities?


Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis

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May 29, 2007, 3:55:13 PM5/29/07
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Earthquack....considered..

Now, that's what I call "cognitive dissonance".

ur_droll

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May 29, 2007, 4:05:35 PM5/29/07
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On May 29, 12:42 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder:

Is that what you choir boys do when yer chugging on the ministers
cock?

Why is it that religious fuckwits are actually the most evil people on
earth?

How come all you 'godsquaders' are intellectually handicapped?

Why do godsquaders fuck little boys up the arse? Is it simple sexual
gratification or is it also to satisfy your need to inflict pain on
others

Why do you evil people feel the need to be religious kooks... aren't
you brave enough to live with yer loathsome selveswith out a mask to
hide behind?

Did you see yer god when yer daddy first split yer anus? or did you
have too wait till he blew his wad up yer arse?

Is it true that all nuns are jealous of ministers because they don't
have cocks with which they can split the anuses of choir boys?

Why do all you religious fuckers, suffer from mental disorders,
physical handicaps and emotional insecurities?

ur_droll

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May 29, 2007, 4:23:19 PM5/29/07
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On May 30, 7:55 am, "Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis"

Well!... I can't argue that it does any more than scratch the surface
of the many sicknesses of mind that foster religious belief. But I
haven't got the time or inclination to write the whole library's worth
of such malady's.

ur_droll

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May 29, 2007, 4:37:30 PM5/29/07
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Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis

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May 29, 2007, 5:09:38 PM5/29/07
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They need a god to blame for their headfucks.

flyingrat

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May 29, 2007, 5:22:12 PM5/29/07
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In article <1180470199.5...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Ch...@xtra.co.nz says...
I've got no problem with the vast majority of genuine Christians.

Most live an honest life, unlike Earthquack the spamming phoney. he's
using his supposed Christianity as a fig leaf to cover up his piss-poor
trolling and attempts to scam money off other people.

I say, believe what you want to believe but recognise Chung for what he
is. A fake and a low-rent unemployed lying troll.

FR

tr...@is-better.com

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May 29, 2007, 5:36:08 PM5/29/07
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> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have
blocked
> him....
>

"Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
address but from the Holy Spirit."

And your compulsion is from whom using deceptive means to force your way
where you are unwelcome? We know who is the father of lies.

When Christ was not welcome in his home city he left. He did not employ
deceptive means to remain or for ce people to listen to Him.

When His disciples were unwelcome they advised dusting their sandles and
leaving. They did not force their way back into the house by deceptive
means.

If we confess our sins He is quick to forgive them.

God bless.

flyingrat

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May 29, 2007, 5:52:23 PM5/29/07
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In article <465c9cc8$0$5015$1c46...@selenium.club.cc.cmu.edu>,
tr...@is-better.com says...
Matthew 5:6 - Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for
righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

Luke 6:21, 25 - Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you shall be
satisfied. . . Woe to you who are full now, for you shall be hungry.

Both these quotes from the Bible, and both infer that God (or Jesus)
considers hunger to be BAD.

Those who are hungry (for food or spiritual matters) will have the BAD
hunger removed, and those who are 'full' will be made hungry because
hunger is BAD.

"Woe to you who are full now, for you shall be hungry" means HUNGER IS
BAD

Chung twists these quotes to sell his diet and gain fraudulent donations
for his one-man charity.

The Two Pound Diet is based on a lie, and Chung distorts scripture to
sell it. Expect him to either run away screerching and howling, or do a
furious little foot-stamping jig on Bob Pastorio's grave. Either way
Chung's core lies are exposed and the VICTORY is for the TRUTH of his
vile ways.

FR

ah

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May 29, 2007, 8:21:37 PM5/29/07
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Genesis 1:29,30

ur_droll

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May 29, 2007, 9:52:25 PM5/29/07
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On May 30, 9:09 am, "Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis"

Nail on the head

Stephen Knight

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May 29, 2007, 11:04:52 PM5/29/07
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On 29 May 2007 10:17:13 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<hear...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

>Cubit wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e96e231ae9ef6e26?
>>
>> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have blocked
>> him....
>>
>
>Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
>address but from the Holy Spirit.


And 'you' should know.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 30, 2007, 12:55:29 AM5/30/07
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convicted neighbor Stephen Knight wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Cubit wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e96e231ae9ef6e26?
> >>
> >> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have blocked
> >> him....
> >>
> >
> >Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> >address but from the Holy Spirit.
>
> And 'you' should know.

In the Holy Spirit, I do know.

Laus Deo ! ! !

Marana tha

St. Jackanapes

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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

> convicted neighbor Stephen Knight wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >convicted neighbor Cubit wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>
> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e96e231ae9ef6e26?
> > >>
> > >> And now another new email address to force posts to people who have blocked
> > >> him....
> > >>
> > >
> > >Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> > >address but from the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > And 'you' should know.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I do know.

Sanctus Phasmatis veho iterum !!

http://www.jackanapes.ws/ani/holyghost.gif

Laus Deo ! ! ! Laus Sanctus Phasmatis ! !

--
St. Jackanapes ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
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WEBSITE: http://www.jackanapes.ws/ | FORUM: http://www.voy.com/20630/
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"The ejaculate from satan has the consistency and smell of emesis."

- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD


rotten

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On May 28, 8:42 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

>
> "Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
> with well-balanced diets."http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

This fruitcake still posts here?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?

> >
> > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> > address but from the Holy Spirit.
>
> Read what?... your retarded drivel?
>
> Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
> you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
> as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
> insecurities?

Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is right to
convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever,
dear neighbor Colin whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Velvet Elvis

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May 30, 2007, 8:53:38 PM5/30/07
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On 30 May 2007 17:32:45 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<hear...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

>convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?
>> >
>> > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
>> > address but from the Holy Spirit.
>>
>> Read what?... your retarded drivel?
>>
>> Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
>> you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
>> as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
>> insecurities?
>
>Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is right to
>convict you:

Cut & paste coward...

--

Xtian at crucifixion: "It's a shame he has to die"
Jesus (shouting from cross): "Well maybe I wouldn't have to
die if somebody would get a LADDER and a pair of PLIERS!!"
[2 Kinison, 4:56]

ur_droll

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May 30, 2007, 9:21:33 PM5/30/07
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On May 31, 12:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?
>
> > > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> > > address but from the Holy Spirit.
>
> > Read what?... your retarded drivel?
>
> > Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
> > you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
> > as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
> > insecurities?
>
> My lame cut and pasting simply shows that you're right to
> berate me:

Yup... yer a moroooon Glad you agree

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 30, 2007, 10:21:42 PM5/30/07
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convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
>
> Yup...

Glad you agree.

> yer a moroooon

Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> Glad you agree

My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)

May GOD continue to bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier


than ever, dear neighbor Colin whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined

with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes

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"ur_droll" <Ch...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:1180574493....@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Faith and Facts

Gregory Koukl

Can you give a good definition of biblical faith? How does it relate to
science?

I don't like the word "faith." Not because faith isn't valuable, but
because it's often deeply misunderstood. "Faith" in this twisted sense is
what you use when all reason is against you. It's religious wishful
thinking, in which one squeezes out spiritual hope by intense acts of
sheer will. People of "faith" believe the impossible. People of "faith"
believe that which is contrary to fact. People of "faith" believe that
which is contrary to evidence. People of "faith" ignore reality.

Some suggest we cannot find facts to support our faith, nor is it
preferable to try. This is silly. We're enjoined to have faith in part
because we have evidence that Jesus rose from the dead.

I think part of the confusion is because Christians are often told to
ignore circumstances, meaning that we're not to get overwhelmed or
discouraged by them because God is bigger than our troubles. "Have faith
in God," we're told. I think that's good counsel as far as it goes, but
sometimes it breeds misunderstanding, implying that faith is a blind leap
that has no relationship to fact. Some suggest we cannot find facts to
support our faith, nor is it preferable to try. Faith is not the kind of
thing that has anything to do with facts, they say. If we have evidence
to prove what we believe, then that takes away from real faith.

Somehow these people think that genuine faith is eviscerated by knowledge
and evidence. We've made a virtue out of believing against the evidence,
as if that's what God has in mind for us. This is all wrong.

Think about it for a moment. J.P. Moreland has suggested that if this is
really the Christian view of faith, the best thing that could happen to
Christianity is for the bones of Jesus to be discovered. Finding His
bones would prove He didn't rise from the dead. When Christians continue
to believe that He did, then, they would be demonstrating the most
laudable faith, believing something that all the evidence proved was
false.

This is silly. We're enjoined to have faith in part because we have
evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. If we're encouraged to believe
because of the resurrection, then that proves this other view of faith is
false. It may be the view Christians hold in many cases, but it is not
the view of the Bible. It is not the view of Christianity.

Frankly, if religion is merely an exercise in wishful thinking for me, I
wouldn't wish up Christianity. It's far too inconvenient. Indeed, it
seems that's part of the reason people hold many of the ludicrous
religious views they do. They're appealing. They wish God was impersonal,
because an impersonal God can't make the kind of demands on them that a
holy God can. An impersonal divine force doesn't cramp their style on
Saturday night. Eastern religions are high on individual liberty and low
on individual responsibility. That's appealing.

Biblical faith isn't believing against the evidence. Instead, faith is a
kind of knowing that results in action.

No, biblical faith isn't believing against the evidence. Instead, faith
is a kind of knowing that results in action. Let me explain what I mean.
If we want to exercise biblical faith--Christian faith--then we ought
first to find out how the Bible defines faith. The clearest definition
comes from Hebrews 11:1. This verse says, "Faith is the assurance of
things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Now, there's
something very important in these words. We see the word "hope," we see
the word "assurance," and we see the word "conviction"--that is,
confidence. Now, what gives us confidence?

If you buy a lottery ticket, do you hope you'll win the lottery? Yes, of
course you do. Do you have any assurance you'll win the lottery?
Absolutely not. You have no way of knowing that your ticket is any better
than the millions of other lottery tickets out there competing for the
same pot.

But what if you had x-ray vision, and you could see through the gray
scratch-off coating on the lottery tickets you buy at the supermarket?
You'd know if you had a $100, $200 or a $1,000 winner, wouldn't you? In
that case, would you merely hope you'd win? No, you'd have assurance ,
wouldn't you? You'd have assurance of those things you previously only
hoped for. It would be hope with conviction, not a mere hoped, but a hope
buttressed by facts and evidence.

That's why the Christian faith cares about the evidence, friends. For the
biblical Christian, the facts matter. You can't have assurance for
something you don't know you're going to get. You can only hope for it.

This is why the resurrection of Jesus is so important. It gives assurance
to the hope. Because of a Christian view of faith, Paul is able to say in
1 Corinthians 15 that when it comes to the resurrection, if we have only
hope, but no assurance--if Jesus didn't indeed rise from the dead in
time/space history--then we are of most men to be pitied. That's what he
says: We are of most men to be pitied .

This confidence Paul is talking about is not a confidence in a mere
"faith" resurrection, a mythical resurrection, a story-telling
resurrection. Instead, it's a belief in a real resurrection. If the real
resurrection didn't happen, then we're in trouble.

The Bible knows nothing of a bold leap-in-the-dark faith, a hope-against-
hope faith, a faith with no evidence. Rather, if the evidence doesn't
correspond to the hope, then the faith is in vain, as even Paul has said.

So, faith is knowing, and that knowledge is based on evidence leading to
confidence or conviction. But biblical faith is more than that. There's
another element. Faith is not just knowing. Faith is also acting.
Biblical faith is a confidence so strong that it results in action.
You're willing to act based on that belief, that faith.

Many of you know that my engineer, Bobby the Bouncer, got married today.
Bobby has believed in marriage for a long time, but Bobby never exercised
faith in marriage until he walked down the aisle and said "I do" to
Jennifer. That's when he put his life on the line for what he believed to
be true. He exercised faith.

Friends, Christianity is not denying reality. Biblical Christians don't
deny reality, they discover reality. And once they've discovered it, they
act on what they've learned.

It's the same way with biblical faith. It's not just intellectual assent.
It's not just acknowledging that certain facts about Jesus, the Bible,
the resurrection, or whatever, happen to be true. It's taking your life
and putting it on the line based on your confidence in those facts.
Consider a guy who pushes a wheelbarrow across Niagara Falls on a
tightrope every day. You've seen him do it so many times it doesn't even
occur to you he won't make it. You believe with all your heart he can do
it.

One day he comes up to you and asks, "Do you believe I can push this
wheelbarrow across the tightrope without falling?" And you say, "Of
course I do. I've seen you do it hundreds of times." "All right," he
says, "get in the wheelbarrow."

Well, now we're talking about a whole different kind of thing, aren't we?
The first is an intellectual belief, an acknowledgment of certain facts.
The second is active faith, converting your knowledge to action. When you
climb into the wheelbarrow, your belief in facts is converted into active
trust.

Faith is knowledge in action. It is active trust in the truth. You go to
the airport. You say, "This plane goes to New York. I believe it. I'll
get on the plane. I'll invest myself in the things I believe to be true."
That is biblical faith.

So, when someone asks me the question, Are faith and science compatible?,
I'm going to immediately ask for a clarification. What do you mean by
faith? If you think faith is mere fantasy and science is complete fact,
well then, fantasy conflicts with fact, doesn't it? If faith is a blind
leap in the dark, if faith has no concern for the facts, you're in
trouble.

If, however, your faith is an intelligent trust in what can't be seen
that's inferred from evidence that can be seen--if your faith is a
commitment to reality, to acting on what you have good reason to believe
is true--well then, there doesn't need to be any conflict at all.

Friends, Christianity is not denying reality. Some people think it is.
I'm sympathetic to them because some Christians act as if faith is a kind
of sanctified denial. But that isn't what biblical Christianity is about.
Biblical Christians don't deny reality, they discover reality. And once
they've discovered it, they act on what they've learned.

Indeed, if Christianity is true, in the deepest sense of the word, then
it must fit the facts of the real world. So, when we discover the facts
of the real world, they can only support Christianity-- if Christianity
is true--given that you've interpreted the facts of the world correctly
and you've interpreted the scriptural teaching correctly.

Christianity does comport with the facts. If science and religion both
have truth as their ultimate goal, then there's no inherent conflict
between the two.

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St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes

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"Velvet Elvis" <now...@noplace.org> wrote in message news:347s531hspq18mctr...@4ax.com...
> [2 Kinison, 4:56] <=== stupid, stupid

(Jeremiah 33:3 NASB)

3 '[a]Call to Me and I will answer you, and I will tell you
[b]great and mighty things, [c]which you do not know.'

[1]


What a promise to a people in distress: "Call Me and I'll show you things
you never would have known otherwise."

[2]


This last verse I have heard quoted frequently at testimony meetings. It is
a very wonderful verse, but I think it is more meaningful if it is
remembered in the context of this chapter. Despite the fact that he is in
prison, this man was told by God to buy a piece of real estate. Jeremiah
acted by faith and bought the real estate, but he has a great many questions
in his mind. Why was God permitting Judah to go into captivity? Frankly, I
think it is an example of great faith when a believer has these moments of
doubt. Someone will ask, how that can be. My friend, if you are walking with
God and are in fellowship with Him, He is so wonderful and He does such
wonderful things that there will be times when you do not understand what He
is doing. Our question is bound to be, "Why are You doing this?" Don't you
have questions like that?

I have had questions like that. I remember one evening going to the hospital
to see my wife and our firstborn baby. The nurse said to me, "The doctor
wants to speak to you," and she looked very serious. The doctor said to me,
"The little baby died." He hadn't told my wife, so he and I went in and told
her and we wept together. I walked out (I never shall forget) to an open-air
porch there at the hospital. It was summertime, and I looked up at the
heavens and the stars. I had a question. Do you know what that question was?
Why? Why? I still look up and ask that same question. Over the years I have
learned to put my hand in His and just keep walking in the dark. Many times
I talk this over with Him, and I tell Him about my doubts, but I also tell
Him that I trust Him. I'm glad that Jeremiah was that kind of a man. And
there are other men in Scripture who also had questions they asked God. In
the Book of Habakkuk, we find that Habakkuk had a lot of questions. In fact,
his book is just a great big "WHY?". Jonah also had some questions to ask
the Lord. My friend, such questions are not a revelation of a lack of faith,
but it is hypocrisy to pretend that we have accepted God's ways and are
walking in complete submission to Him when actually we are having questions
deep inside. I believe that God wants us to be completely honest with Him
above everything else. And this is His promise to us: "Call unto me, and I
will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest
not."

Now God is going to reaffirm the covenant He made with David in 2 Samuel 7.
He made a covenant with David that there would be one to sit on his throne
forever. This covenant became the theme song of every prophet, so much so
that they all sound like a stuck record. They all refer back to this
covenant and rest upon it.

[3]


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[a] Ps 50:15; 91:15; Is 55:6, 7; Jer 29:12

[b] Jer 32:17, 27

[c] Is 48:6

[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Je 33:3). LaHabra, CA:
The Lockman Foundation.

[2]Courson, J. (2006). Jon Courson's application commentary : Volume two :
Psalms-Malachi (549). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

[3]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the Thru
the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (3:406-407). Nashville: Thomas
Nelson.


St. Jackanapes

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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

> convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:


> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?
> > >
> > > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> > > address but from the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > Read what?... your retarded drivel?
> >
> > Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
> > you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
> > as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
> > insecurities?
>
> Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is right to
> convict you:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever,
> dear neighbor Colin whom I love unconditionally.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration

Verbigeration
ver·big·er·a·tion
n.
Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a
symptom of mental illness.

http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration

Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
schizophrenia.

St. Jackanapes

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May 31, 2007, 12:13:16 AM5/31/07
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

> convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:


> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
> >
> > Yup...
>
> Glad you agree.
>
> > yer a moroooon
>
> Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > Glad you agree
>
> My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
>
> May GOD continue to bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier
> than ever, dear neighbor Colin whom I love unconditionally.
>

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration

Irv Hyatt

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May 31, 2007, 12:15:12 AM5/31/07
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"St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes" <stjn...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rLudnfjYIqITpsPb...@giganews.com...

>
> "ur_droll" <Ch...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:1180574493....@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 31, 12:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>>> convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:
>>>
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?
>>>
>>> > > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
>>> > > address but from the Holy Spirit.
>>>
>>> > Read what?... your retarded drivel?
>>>
>>> > Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
>>> > you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
>>> > as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
>>> > insecurities?
>>>
>>> My lame cut and pasting simply shows that you're right to
>>> berate me:
>>
>> Yup... yer a moroooon Glad you agree
>>
> Faith and Facts

Oxymoron


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 31, 2007, 1:26:30 AM5/31/07
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brother Melchizedek wrote:

> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>convicted neighbor Colin (C...@xtra.co.nz) wrote:
> >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c8c02a0f5a7ba8aa?
> >>> >
> >>> > Your compulsion to read this is not coming from the change in email
> >>> > address but from the Holy Spirit.
> >>>
> >>> Read what?... your retarded drivel?
> >>>
> >>> Have you considered that yer faith is a sickness of yer mind and that
> >>> you bible bashers are all a bunch of nut jobs who are using religion
> >>> as a crutch to mask yer social impotence, intellectual and emotional
> >>> insecurities?
> >>
> >>Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is right to
> >>convict you:
> >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever,

dear brother Melchizedek whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined

with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

ur_droll

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May 31, 2007, 1:51:17 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 5:26 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Wow!... did you just swallow each others loads?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 31, 2007, 2:02:34 AM5/31/07
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No.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><

welcome to the Holocene Epoch

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May 31, 2007, 2:08:31 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 1:26 am, "Andrew B. Chung, BPD/OCD"

<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever,
> dear brother Melchizedek whom I love unconditionally.

Did you fall in love with him after finding his porn-filled ad, Andy?

St. Jackanapes

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May 31, 2007, 4:17:01 AM5/31/07
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

> convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:

Chung's a doctor. He's no dummy. He *always* spits. Who knows where
Loiodice has stuffed his wart encrusted cock, right Dr. Chung? AIDS is
no joke!

Message has been deleted

ur_droll

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May 31, 2007, 5:57:53 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 6:02 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

You are such a fibber... but then what else would anyone expect of a
religious whacko

Message has been deleted

Robibnikoff

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May 31, 2007, 11:27:13 AM5/31/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <hear...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1180578102....@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
>>
>> Yup...
>
> Glad you agree.
>
>> yer a moroooon
>
> Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> Glad you agree
>
> My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)

Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
past two days.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557


Velvet Elvis

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May 31, 2007, 1:48:38 PM5/31/07
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On 30 May 2007 19:21:42 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<hear...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

>My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
>receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)

So the Holy Spirit's the one who flushed the toilet on your thankfully
incredibly brief medical career?

St. Jackanapes

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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Velvet Elvis said...

I guess that the Holy Ghost knew what kind of human carnage Chung would
leave behind if he'd continued his career as a cardiologist.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 31, 2007, 7:43:24 PM5/31/07
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convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
> >>
> >> Yup...
> >
> > Glad you agree.
> >
> >> yer a moroooon
> >
> > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> Glad you agree
> >
> > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
>
> Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> past two days.

Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

St. Jackanapes

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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

> convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:


> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
> > >>
> > >> Yup...
> > >
> > > Glad you agree.
> > >
> > >> yer a moroooon
> > >
> > > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > >> Glad you agree
> > >
> > > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
> >
> > Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> > past two days.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.
>

http://www.jackanapes.ws/graph/pastorio.jpg

Stephen Knight

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May 31, 2007, 10:56:25 PM5/31/07
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On 30 May 2007 22:26:30 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

snip

Dung, do you talk in tongues?

You can tell us. It's not like we'd be shocked or anything. Trust
me on that.

Another thing. When the 'holy spirit' talks to you, do you answer
in your head or say something verbally?

I'm sure that I, and a lot of others here, would like to get the
gist of supernatural protocol. Maybe the 'holy spirit' is talking to
us but we aren't responding the way you do because you're so fucking
smart.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

ur_droll

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On Jun 1, 11:43 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
>
> > >> Yup...
>
> > > Glad you agree.
>
> > >> yer a moroooon
>
> > > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > >> Glad you agree
>
> > > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
>
> > Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> > past two days.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.
>
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

>
> "Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
> with well-balanced diets"http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

hello chungy... is it true that yer god revoked your license to play
doctor... <snigggger>...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 1, 2007, 4:57:13 AM6/1/07
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convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
> >
> > > >> Yup...
> >
> > > > Glad you agree.
> >
> > > >> yer a moroooon
> >
> > > > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > > > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > >> Glad you agree
> >
> > > > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > > > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
> >
> > > Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> > > past two days.
> >
> > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.
>
> hello chungy... is it true that yer god revoked your license

No.

> to play
> doctor... <snigggger>...

Playing is not my style.

Truth is simple.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined

with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

ur_droll

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Jun 1, 2007, 5:04:56 AM6/1/07
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On Jun 1, 8:57 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
>
> > > > >> Yup...
>
> > > > > Glad you agree.
>
> > > > >> yer a moroooon
>
> > > > > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > > > > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> > > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > > > >> Glad you agree
>
> > > > > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > > > > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
>
> > > > Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> > > > past two days.
>
> > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.
>
> > hello chungy... is it true that yer god revoked your license
>
> No.

It's not nice to be dishonest andrew... (dishonest andrew... has a
ring to it)

>
> > to play
> > doctor... <snigggger>...
>
> Playing is not my style.
>

> I am simple.

Don't be a silly andrew, andrew. Your whole religion is a game..
and a pretty fucking boring one if ya ask me.

Don't you ever get the urge to lick pussy instead of arse and cock
'andrew'?

How much did you fail your IQ test by 'andrew'?

flyingrat

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Jun 1, 2007, 7:16:06 AM6/1/07
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In article <1180688696.7...@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Ch...@xtra.co.nz says...
he must have failed it with a really low score, as he seems unable to
make a list of the hospitals to which he has admitting priveliges and to
post it here

FR

St. Jackanapes

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Jun 1, 2007, 8:00:09 PM6/1/07
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In alt.flame.jesus.christ, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD said...

>

> convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Robibnikoff wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Colin (ur_droll) wrote:
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cfee5f7d4f1f9aeb?
> > >
> > > > >> Yup...
> > >
> > > > > Glad you agree.
> > >
> > > > >> yer a moroooon
> > >
> > > > > Your continued name-calling behavior simply shows that you remain
> > > > > convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> > >
> > > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > > > >> Glad you agree
> > >
> > > > > My agreeing with the Holy Spirit logically follows from my choice to
> > > > > receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do, and write :-)
> > >
> > > > Fuck you, asshole. This is the 4th time I've had to killfile you in the
> > > > past two days.
> > >
> > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > hello chungy... is it true that yer god revoked your license
>
> No.

Liar. God hates liars. God hates Chung.

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