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Happy Oyster
Feb 4, 2013, 5:09:39 AM2/4/13
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:42:48 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emory.edu> wrote:
>Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier
That is an insane claim.
Markea Berry is dead.
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<ach...@emory.edu> wrote:
>Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier
That is an insane claim.
Markea Berry is dead.
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Pre
Feb 4, 2013, 2:21:51 PM2/4/13
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Dr. Chung
How does it work with Juicing for example of:
32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
1 cucumber
4 celery stalks
2 apples
6-8 leaves kale
1/2 lemon
1 tbsp ginger
Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
On another question. What if a person is doing a 10day Juicing Fast like the recipe above? Would it be 2lbs also?
In other words do you also weight out liquids?
How does it work with Juicing for example of:
32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
1 cucumber
4 celery stalks
2 apples
6-8 leaves kale
1/2 lemon
1 tbsp ginger
Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
On another question. What if a person is doing a 10day Juicing Fast like the recipe above? Would it be 2lbs also?
In other words do you also weight out liquids?
Pre
Feb 4, 2013, 2:25:11 PM2/4/13
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On Monday, February 4, 2013 2:21:51 PM UTC-5, Pre wrote:
> Dr. Chung
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> How does it work with Juicing for example of:
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> 32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
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> 1 cucumber
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> 4 celery stalks
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> 2 apples
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> 6-8 leaves kale
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> 1/2 lemon
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> 1 tbsp ginger
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> Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
>
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> On another question. What if a person is doing a Juice only 10day Juicing Fast like the recipe above? Would it be 2lbs also?
> Dr. Chung
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> How does it work with Juicing for example of:
>
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> 32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
>
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> 1 cucumber
>
> 4 celery stalks
>
> 2 apples
>
> 6-8 leaves kale
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> 1/2 lemon
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> 1 tbsp ginger
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> Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
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> In other words do you also weight out liquids? Because, 1 Liter of juice is about 2Lbs and if a person is doing a juice only fast 1liter per day of juice with no food is definitely not enough.
Please advise
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 4, 2013, 2:42:48 PM2/4/13
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Pre wrote:
> Pre wrote:
>
>> Dr. Chung
>>
>> How does it work with Juicing for example of:
>>
>> 32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
>>
>> 1 cucumber
>>
>> 4 celery stalks
>>
>> 2 apples
>>
>> 6-8 leaves kale
>>
>> 1/2 lemon
>>
>> 1 tbsp ginger
>>
>> Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
Would recommend your having the juice in a small demitasse-like cup as
> Pre wrote:
>
>> Dr. Chung
>>
>> How does it work with Juicing for example of:
>>
>> 32 ounces of "Mean Green Juice"
>>
>> 1 cucumber
>>
>> 4 celery stalks
>>
>> 2 apples
>>
>> 6-8 leaves kale
>>
>> 1/2 lemon
>>
>> 1 tbsp ginger
>>
>> Does this count as for the 2lbs per day?
part of a complete meal that has a variety of different kinds of foods
in order to http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
Pictures of examples of such meals eaten by this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) that sometimes include liquid food such as
milk/juice can be viewed at:
https://www.facebook.com/HeartDoc777/photos_stream
>>
>> On another question. What if a person is doing a Juice only 10day Juicing Fast like the recipe above? Would it be 2lbs also?
>>
>> In other words do you also weight out liquids? Because, 1 Liter of juice is about 2Lbs and if a person is doing a juice only fast 1liter per day of juice with no food is definitely not enough.
>
>Please advise
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b3f01876f7a2afa?
See above.
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Clark
Feb 4, 2013, 3:02:55 PM2/4/13
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Posted by Dr Sircus on January 28, 2013�
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"I find it very gratifying to have written and published Sodium
Bicarbonate � Rich Man�s Poor Man�s Cancer Treatment. It is the only
complete medical review on the subject. I hope it is clear to
everyone, after reading the research below from the mainstream of
medical science, the importance of becoming familiar with bicarbonate
medicine and what it can do for cancer, kidney and diabetic patients
as well as for those seeking relief from the worst symptoms of the
flu.
�The results of this study suggest that tumor cells do, indeed,
perform niche engineering by creating an acidic environment that is
non-toxic to the malignant cells but, through its negative effects on
normal cells and tissue, promotes local invasion.�"
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DocBGK
Feb 4, 2013, 9:32:26 PM2/4/13
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usenet who doesn't consider him to be a quack, an kook and a crackpot.
DocBGK
Feb 4, 2013, 9:33:16 PM2/4/13
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On Feb 4, 11:25 am, Pre <spainmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please advise
Psychotherapy is your friend, Andy.
>
> Please advise
Psychotherapy is your friend, Andy.
Pre
Feb 5, 2013, 12:03:02 PM2/5/13
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Or actually what life?
Dr. Chung has a PhD & is an MD.
What are your credentials?
Or did you graduate from Burger King Academy?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 5, 2013, 2:24:41 PM2/5/13
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Pre wrote:
> DocBGK wrote:
none of us have proven that as a matter of fact "hunger is wonderful
b/c it's a healthy appetite."
It's also clear that he not only suffers from this terrible "hunger is
starvation" delusion but he now also suffers from the delusion that
you, Pre, are me (i.e. that you are a sockpuppet).
And thus delusion begats more delusion as we witness in astonishment
someone become ever more disconnected from reality.
So let's not be an Ayoob or we will most certainly die a horrible
(Mark 9:42) death disconnected from reality:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)
> DocBGK wrote:
>> Pre wrote:
>>
>> > Please advise
>>
>> Psychotherapy is your friend, Andy.
>
> @DocBK you must have a real SORRY life of a Troll.
It's sad that he falsely thinks that "hunger is starvation" and that
>>
>> > Please advise
>>
>> Psychotherapy is your friend, Andy.
>
> @DocBK you must have a real SORRY life of a Troll.
none of us have proven that as a matter of fact "hunger is wonderful
b/c it's a healthy appetite."
It's also clear that he not only suffers from this terrible "hunger is
starvation" delusion but he now also suffers from the delusion that
you, Pre, are me (i.e. that you are a sockpuppet).
And thus delusion begats more delusion as we witness in astonishment
someone become ever more disconnected from reality.
So let's not be an Ayoob or we will most certainly die a horrible
(Mark 9:42) death disconnected from reality:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken
Feb 5, 2013, 2:35:19 PM2/5/13
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On Feb 4, 6:35 pm, DocBGK <blackstu...@gmail.com found this:
http://www.abim.org/services/physver.aspx
Dr. Andrew Ben-hua Chung (aka Chung da Chink)
Certification Area
Certification Status
Certification History
Internal Medicine
Not Certified
Certified 08/20/1997, Certificate valid through 12/31/2007
Cardiovascular Disease
Not Certified
Certified 11/06/2002, Certificate valid through 12/31/2012
Quacks don't need certifications or medical licenses
http://www.abim.org/services/physver.aspx
Dr. Andrew Ben-hua Chung (aka Chung da Chink)
Certification Area
Certification Status
Certification History
Internal Medicine
Not Certified
Certified 08/20/1997, Certificate valid through 12/31/2007
Cardiovascular Disease
Not Certified
Certified 11/06/2002, Certificate valid through 12/31/2012
Quacks don't need certifications or medical licenses
DocBGK
Feb 6, 2013, 4:13:01 AM2/6/13
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DocBGK
Feb 6, 2013, 4:14:49 AM2/6/13
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Pre <spainmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After spending several hours on Dr. Andrew B. Chung's website
There are considerably more sensible ways to waste your time.
> What is your take on Dr. Esslstyn's claim to reverse Heart Disease and avoid heart attacks by simply eating a Whole Plant
> Based diet?
Based on Andrew Chung's daily consumption of fatty, sugary, starchy
junk food... he's obviously not in agreement with the concept of
healthy foods.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.199971148065.167331.1962558...
--
Mary Tyler Moore has always had diabetes and she's never had an ounce
of VAT
Hunger Is Starvation
> After spending several hours on Dr. Andrew B. Chung's website
There are considerably more sensible ways to waste your time.
> What is your take on Dr. Esslstyn's claim to reverse Heart Disease and avoid heart attacks by simply eating a Whole Plant
> Based diet?
Based on Andrew Chung's daily consumption of fatty, sugary, starchy
junk food... he's obviously not in agreement with the concept of
healthy foods.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.199971148065.167331.1962558...
--
Mary Tyler Moore has always had diabetes and she's never had an ounce
of VAT
Hunger Is Starvation
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 6, 2013, 5:32:01 AM2/6/13
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
>
> "I'm starving!"
Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?
>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!
No you are not.
> Why?
Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.
> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?
Being hungry means being able to digest food.
> I just don't know.
You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:
"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?
> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.
That which kills the hunger would be killing you.
If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.
> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...
Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.
Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?
Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
DocBGK
Feb 6, 2013, 9:00:01 AM2/6/13
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pl...@you.com wrote:
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
Samwise wrote:
> Dani wrote:
> > Did Chung inspire Markea's murder by starvation?
>
> > Don't be a Chung hunger cultist and die a horrible death like Markea Blakely-Berry"
>
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Also discovered was:
"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/
"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43
"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html
"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html
"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
Samwise wrote:
> Dani wrote:
> > Did Chung inspire Markea's murder by starvation?
>
> > Don't be a Chung hunger cultist and die a horrible death like Markea Blakely-Berry"
>
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:
"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"
"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve
"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm
"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48
"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml
"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer
Also discovered was:
"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/
"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43
"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer
"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html
"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html
"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 7, 2013, 3:23:42 AM2/7/13
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DocBGK
Feb 7, 2013, 9:21:13 PM2/7/13
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On Feb 4, 11:21 am, Pre <spainmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
However, virtually all liquid diets of juiced vegetables and fruits,
lead to rapid weight loss compared to consumption of solid foods. If I
were to only consume 32 oz of the mixture you listed above for 30
days, I'd probably go from a BMI of 21 (optimal) to a BMI of 17 or
from 165 lbs to 135 lbs, which would put me in the underweight
category.
My recent lab results:
Cholesterol: 137 mg/dL - 125-200
HDL: 78 mg/dL - 40-199
VLDL : 19 mg/dL - 0-30
Triglycerides: 72 mg/dL - 0-150
Glucose fasting: 78 mg/dL - 65-99
PSA: 1.6 ng/mL - 0.0-4.0
--
Age: 55
Hight: 6'0"
Weight: 165
Waist: 32"
BMI: 21
Blood pressure: 115/70
Pulse rate: 62
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 8, 2013, 4:32:04 AM2/8/13
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DocBGK
Feb 8, 2013, 5:40:56 AM2/8/13
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pl...@you.com wrote:
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
Samwise wrote:
> Dani wrote:
> > Did Chung inspire Markea's murder by starvation?
>
> > > Don't be an Ayoob
>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>
Samwise wrote:
> Dani wrote:
> > Did Chung inspire Markea's murder by starvation?
>
>
> > Don't be a Chung hunger cultist and die a horrible death like Markea Blakely-Berry
>
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
Indeed, a Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Blakely-Berry"
> > Don't be a Chung hunger cultist and die a horrible death like Markea Blakely-Berry
>
> DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
> http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
produced the following results:
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/
"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23
"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#
"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/
"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0
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Hunger is starvation.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 9, 2013, 12:23:17 AM2/9/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 10, 2013, 11:12:53 PM2/10/13
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Happy Oyster
Feb 11, 2013, 1:54:26 PM2/11/13
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:15:34 -0800 (PST), Ken <flak...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.abim.org/services/physver.aspx
>
>Dr. Andrew Ben-hua Chung
>
>http://www.abim.org/services/physver.aspx
>
>Dr. Andrew Ben-hua Chung
>Certification Area
>Certification Status
>Certification History
>
> Internal Medicine
>Not Certified
>Certified 08/20/1997, Certificate valid through 12/31/2007
>Cardiovascular Disease
>Not Certified
>Certified 11/06/2002, Certificate valid through 12/31/2012
>
> Quacks don't need certifications or medical licenses
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.
>Certification Status
>Certification History
>
> Internal Medicine
>Not Certified
>Certified 08/20/1997, Certificate valid through 12/31/2007
>Cardiovascular Disease
>Not Certified
>Certified 11/06/2002, Certificate valid through 12/31/2012
>
> Quacks don't need certifications or medical licenses
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 11, 2013, 8:40:53 PM2/11/13
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Ken
Feb 11, 2013, 9:15:34 PM2/11/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 12, 2013, 3:26:58 AM2/12/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 13, 2013, 7:12:23 AM2/13/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 14, 2013, 5:10:49 AM2/14/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 15, 2013, 6:43:18 AM2/15/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 16, 2013, 7:37:26 AM2/16/13
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Background: It has been extensively shown, mainly in US populations,
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des
femmes de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European
Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort.
Design: A total of 66,118 women were followed from 1993, and 1369
incident cases of T2D were diagnosed during the follow-up. Cox
regression models were used to estimate HRs and 95% CIs for T2D risk.
Results: The average consumption of sweetened beverages in consumers
was 328 and 568 mL/wk for SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Compared with
nonconsumers, women in the highest quartiles of SSB and ASB consumers
were at increased risk of T2D with HRs (95% CIs) of 1.34 (1.05, 1.71)
and 2.21 (1.56, 3.14) for women who consumed >359 and >603 mL/wk of
SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Strong positive trends in T2D risk were
also observed across quartiles of consumption for both types of
beverage (P = 0.0088 and P < 0.0001, respectively). In sensitivity
analyses, associations were partly mediated by BMI, although there was
still a strong significant independent effect. No association was
observed for 100% fruit juice consumption.
Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated
with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than
ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the
association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove
a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.
Source:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.abstract
Comment:
Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
delusion).
Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
overeating.
Behold in amazement the following example...
that sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) are associated with increased
risk of type 2 diabetes (T2D), but less is known about the effects of
artificially sweetened beverages (ASBs).
Objective: We evaluated the association between self-reported SSB,
ASB, and 100% fruit juice consumption and T2D risk over 14 y of
follow-up in the French prospective Etude Epidémiologique auprès des
femmes de la Mutuelle Générale de l'Education Nationale–European
Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition cohort.
Design: A total of 66,118 women were followed from 1993, and 1369
incident cases of T2D were diagnosed during the follow-up. Cox
regression models were used to estimate HRs and 95% CIs for T2D risk.
Results: The average consumption of sweetened beverages in consumers
was 328 and 568 mL/wk for SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Compared with
nonconsumers, women in the highest quartiles of SSB and ASB consumers
were at increased risk of T2D with HRs (95% CIs) of 1.34 (1.05, 1.71)
and 2.21 (1.56, 3.14) for women who consumed >359 and >603 mL/wk of
SSBs and ASBs, respectively. Strong positive trends in T2D risk were
also observed across quartiles of consumption for both types of
beverage (P = 0.0088 and P < 0.0001, respectively). In sensitivity
analyses, associations were partly mediated by BMI, although there was
still a strong significant independent effect. No association was
observed for 100% fruit juice consumption.
Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated
with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than
ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the
association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove
a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D.
Source:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997.abstract
Comment:
Because 100% fruit juice is perceived to be liquid food, folks
drinking it are not doing it to kill their hunger (i.e. they do not
suffer from the "hunger is starvation" delusion).
Otoh, the reason why folks are drinking SSBs and ASBs is to kill their
hunger (i.e. these folks are suffering from the "hunger is starvation"
delusion).
Bottom line: The "hunger is starvation" delusion is what is actually
causing type-2 diabetes because it compels people to mindlessly
acquire visceral adipose tissue (VAT --> http://WDJW.net/VAT ) by
overeating.
Behold in amazement the following example...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Feb 18, 2013, 7:06:25 AM2/18/13
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GysdeJongh wrote:
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> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
>
> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT
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