Re: Diabetes, testing, and depression
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> If you get depressed and can not shake it, get some help. I was so depressed
> 2 months ago that I did a foolish thing, at least others think it was
> foolish. I tried to end my life, at the time life was not worth living and I
> could not see any hope of it ever getting any better.
Reading this saddens me.
> I had read about a diabetic that did it by over injection insulin. I
> injected my whole pen of Homolog all at once, it took 5-6 injections. I was
> saved because my mother heard me, I was shaking all over and knocking things
> over in my bathroom.
It was not by chance but by GOD that your mom heard you.
This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
yet.
> I was in the hospital for 5 days then went to another
> hospital for mental evaluation. Now I have to go to therapy 3 times a week,
> that is the only time I am allowed out of the house. They put a survalance
> camera in my room and I am not allowed to keep my own insulin.
Your parents love you.
Others who know you also love you.
LORD Jesus Christ knows you and loves you.
Least of all, I love you.
> I can not say if I will ever do it again, my health problems are severe and
> will be with me forever.
Actually, your health problems will not be with you forever.
This GOD has promised.
"Heaven and earth will pass away but MY words will not pass away." --
LORD Jesus Christ
Amen
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
of our anxiety, panic, and depression, dear Madison whom I love
unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Marie
> Madison wrote:
> >
> > If you get depressed and can not shake it, get some help. I was so depressed
> > 2 months ago that I did a foolish thing, at least others think it was
> > foolish. I tried to end my life, at the time life was not worth living and I
> > could not see any hope of it ever getting any better.
>
> Reading this saddens me.
Andrew, you of all folks should know that there is a *biological* link
between diabetes, Cushings,
menopause and peri-menopause, heart disease, and Fibromyalgia, Chronic
Fatigue, etc., and depression.
The depression is *not* always reactive to the illness.
You should now that the high output of cortisol makes 90% of Cushngs
patients develop clinical depression. You should also know that
diabetes and depression go hand in hand because of the blood sugar
irregularities; you should also know that women nearing menopause
develop hormonal imbalances or sensitivities to such imbalances that
are linked to low production serotonin the brain, etc., etc.
Depression is *not* always, and hardly ever, rooted in one's
spirituality or one's "thinking patterns."Chritians of all
denominations develop these disorders at the same rate as
non-Christians.
By the way, Bipolar illness and depression was identified as far back
as the ancients scholars.
You are making all diseases spiritual in origin. They are not.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Madison wrote:
> > >
> > > If you get depressed and can not shake it, get some help. I was so depressed
> > > 2 months ago that I did a foolish thing, at least others think it was
> > > foolish. I tried to end my life, at the time life was not worth living and I
> > > could not see any hope of it ever getting any better.
> >
> > Reading this saddens me.
>
> Andrew, you of all folks should know that there is a *biological* link
> between diabetes, Cushings,
> menopause and peri-menopause, heart disease, and Fibromyalgia, Chronic
> Fatigue, etc., and depression.
An association is not a biological link.
> The depression is *not* always reactive to the illness.
Did not write that it is.
> You should now that the high output of cortisol makes 90% of Cushngs
> patients develop clinical depression. You should also know that
> diabetes and depression go hand in hand because of the blood sugar
> irregularities; you should also know that women nearing menopause
> develop hormonal imbalances or sensitivities to such imbalances that
> are linked to low production serotonin the brain, etc., etc.
Madison does not have Cushing's disease. Nor is Madison anywhere near
being menopausal. As for blood sugar irregularities, she has been
doing an awesome job thanks to the support from the regulars at ASD of
regulating her blood glucose.
> Depression is *not* always, and hardly ever, rooted in one's
> spirituality or one's "thinking patterns."Chritians of all
> denominations develop these disorders at the same rate as
> non-Christians.
Depression is being poor in spirit.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3)
Amen.
> By the way, Bipolar illness and depression was identified as far back
> as the ancients scholars.
>
> You are making all diseases spiritual in origin.
Mood disorders are spiritual problems and not physical problems
althrough there may be real physical symptoms.
> They are not.
Truly, they are.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
anxiety, panic, and depression, dear sister Marie whom I love
Art Deco
>> Depression is *not* always, and hardly ever, rooted in one's
>> spirituality or one's "thinking patterns."Chritians of all
>> denominations develop these disorders at the same rate as
>> non-Christians.
>
>Depression is being poor in spirit.
Unsupported assertion on your part, Chunk. No wonder you are such a
poor scientist.
Pastor Kutchie
JEM
wrote:
>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
>>> Depression is *not* always, and hardly ever, rooted in one's
>>> spirituality or one's "thinking patterns."Chritians of all
>>> denominations develop these disorders at the same rate as
>>> non-Christians.
what's a "chritian"?
do we have do deal with a new group of lunatics? :)
Pastor Kutchie
JEM wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:50:14 -0700, Art Deco <er...@netcabal.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Depression is *not* always, and hardly ever, rooted in one's
> >>> spirituality or one's "thinking patterns."Chritians of all
> >>> denominations develop these disorders at the same rate as
> >>> non-Christians.
> what's a "chritian"?
> do we have do deal with a new group of lunatics? :)
No, just a 2,000 year old one.
Mark K. Bilbo
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Madison wrote:
>> >
>> > If you get depressed and can not shake it, get some help. I was so depressed
>> > 2 months ago that I did a foolish thing, at least others think it was
>> > foolish. I tried to end my life, at the time life was not worth living and I
>> > could not see any hope of it ever getting any better.
>>
>> Reading this saddens me.
>
> Andrew, you of all folks should know
But that was before he and reality parted ways...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
Marie
> > Andrew, you of all folks should know that there is a *biological* link
> > between diabetes, Cushings,
> > menopause and peri-menopause, heart disease, and Fibromyalgia, Chronic
> > Fatigue, etc., and depression.
>
> An association is not a biological link.
It's a neurological link. Doesn't the Bible state that all the members
of the body are interrelated?
If the spiritual bodyof Jesus is so, then the physical body is the
same. The brain can go wrong just as the rest of body systems and
organs can go wrong. You're taking the brain right out of the whole
equation. Might as well take the heart out as well, and tell folks that
heart disease is
spiritual in origin--and cancer, diabetes, menopause, leukemia, and on
and on.
> > The depression is *not* always reactive to the illness.
> Did not write that it is.
Then that settles it, right?
> Depression is being poor in spirit.
>
> "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
> -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3)
No it's not. Besides, that statement by Jesus refers to the Millenium.
Jesus was going to set up His earthly kingdom. His first coming was
supposed to be His second coming. Why do you think that John the
Baptist said "The axe is laid at the root of the trees?" and " Who has
warned you from the WRATH to come?" Wrath? That happens at the Second
Coming. You know that John would have been the Elijah who was to come.
This Scripture does not apply to today.
Besides, poor in "spirit" is not poor in "body."
> Mood disorders are spiritual problems and not physical problems
> althrough there may be real physical symptoms.
Not true. Already there is a gene that has been identified that is
related to mood disorders.
No matter what, you are going to think just like the gene that has
programmed you to think, and feel the same way. You can't change
biology.
You can't wish diabetes away.
You can't wish depression away.
You can't wish cardiovascular disease away.
You can't wish cancer away.
IF indeed all disease is rooted in spiritual "poverty," then we are all
"poor in spirit," and all of us will receive the Kingdom of Heaven,
even the most evil among us..
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Marie wrote:
>
> > > Andrew, you of all folks should know that there is a *biological* link
> > > between diabetes, Cushings,
> > > menopause and peri-menopause, heart disease, and Fibromyalgia, Chronic
> > > Fatigue, etc., and depression.
> >
> > An association is not a biological link.
>
> It's a neurological link.
An association may suggest a link but it may also be totally unrelated
because depression is highly prevalent even among people with no other
medical problems.
> Doesn't the Bible state that all the members
> of the body are interrelated?
Yes.
> If the spiritual bodyof Jesus is so, then the physical body is the
> same.
It is.
> The brain can go wrong just as the rest of body systems and
> organs can go wrong.
Correct.
> You're taking the brain right out of the whole
> equation.
No. There are diseases of the brain. These include schizophrenia,
epilepsy, CJD, stroke, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease. Mood
disorders like depression, mania, manic-depression are not among these
diseases of the brain.
> Might as well take the heart out as well, and tell folks that
> heart disease is
> spiritual in origin--and cancer, diabetes, menopause, leukemia, and on
> and on.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> > > The depression is *not* always reactive to the illness.
>
> > Did not write that it is.
>
> Then that settles it, right?
It simply shows you are being untruthful.
> > Depression is being poor in spirit.
> >
> > "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
> > -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3)
>
> No it's not.
Being driven by necessity to turn to the LORD for help is a blessing.
> Besides, that statement by Jesus refers to the Millenium.
This statement is HIS teaching us, HIS brethren about how to live in
this world.
> Jesus was going to set up His earthly kingdom. His first coming was
> supposed to be His second coming. Why do you think that John the
> Baptist said "The axe is laid at the root of the trees?" and " Who has
> warned you from the WRATH to come?" Wrath? That happens at the Second
> Coming. You know that John would have been the Elijah who was to come.
> This Scripture does not apply to today.
Incorrect.
> Besides, poor in "spirit" is not poor in "body."
Correct.
> > Mood disorders are spiritual problems and not physical problems
> > althrough there may be real physical symptoms.
>
> Not true. Already there is a gene that has been identified that is
> related to mood disorders.
Genes are invariant from birth to death. For this reason, no gene will
be the cause of mood disorders which vary from birth to death.
Truth is simple.
> No matter what, you are going to think just like the gene that has
> programmed you to think, and feel the same way. You can't change
> biology.
GOD can and has changed all things.
> You can't wish diabetes away.
GOD can cure it.
> You can't wish depression away.
GOD can cure it.
> You can't wish cardiovascular disease away.
GOD can cure it.
> You can't wish cancer away.
GOD can cure it.
LORD GOD Almighty has been, is, and will be forever omnipotent.
> IF indeed all disease is rooted in spiritual "poverty," then we are all
> "poor in spirit," and all of us will receive the Kingdom of Heaven,
> even the most evil among us..
All are invited, few will accept, and even fewer will be dressed
appropriately for the Wedding of the Lamb.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, curing our
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
serotonin deficiency is not the cause of either depression, anxiety, or
panic.
Being poor in spirit causes depression, anxiety, and panic.
Truth is simple.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in excruciating
pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth-gnashing panic) dear neighbor
Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> ..........serotonin deficiency.......
Now, I know you are not a doctor at all.
Cary Kittrell
A friend of mine who objected to the latest
nutriceutical fad, the one for a serotonin
precursor, on the basis that the precursor
would not cross the blood-brain barrier,
was told that the brain was not the whole
story, because "you have to consider the
spirit". Apparently this precursor
molecule can cross the blood-spirit barrier.
Or something.
You don't think that there are in fact some out
there who, although holding medical degrees,
will solemnly tell you similarly silly things?
(considering that the GI tract has far more serotonin
receptors than the brain, and there's no
blood-gut barrier: one must wonder what
effect such an influx of serotonin will have on
the complex feedback system that is the
digestive tract)
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
>
> Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
any rate.
And yet these drugs famously do reduce the symptoms of Parkinson's.
Why is that, do you suppose?
-- cary
Marie
> So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> any rate.
> And yet these drugs famously do reduce the symptoms of Parkinson's.
> Why is that, do you suppose?
Well, duh. Antidepressants also help the majority of depressed people.
Others benefit from a combinations of medications. They *do* work.
Andrew of all people who know that there are multitudes of drugs, food
preservatives/hormones, etc., that can wreak havoc on the brain.
This is the problem with my fellow Evangelicals--they separate the
brain from the rest of the body, and call the brain a "spiritual
organ." If there's anything wrong with brain function, be it
depression, anxiety disorders, OCD, Parkinson's, dementia, then someone
with such disorders has a "spiritual" problem, not a physical problem.
Sadly, the people who opposed the development of aspirin for pain
relief were Christians.
Please do not think that all Christians think like Andrew.
Cary Kittrell
Oh, hey, I no more suspect that all Christians think like
Andrew than I suspect that all Quakers are like Richard
Nixon. I was raised by Christians, surrounded by
Christians, and several of the people I now admire most
earned that admiration precisely because of lives
guided by Christ's teachings -- the more
dificult of Christ's teachings, those demanding
self-sacrifice and care for others.
I would also guess that the reaction of most of my
Christian friends to Andrew's pronouncements would
likely be exactly the same as yours.
Thanks for the lovely response.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> >
> > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
>
> So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> any rate.
Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
dopamine precursor deficiency.
Truth is simple.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Cary whom I love unconditionally.
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> > >
> > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> >
> > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> > any rate.
>
> Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
> a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
> symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
> dopamine precursor deficiency.
In that case, what's your proposed mechanism for increased
levels of serotonin slapping a patch on a "poor spirit"?
-- cary
Pastor Kutchie
Cary Kittrell wrote:
> In article <1164739317.1...@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> writes:
> >
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >
> > > ..........serotonin deficiency.......
> >
> >
> > Now, I know you are not a doctor at all.
> >
>
>
> A friend of mine who objected to the latest
> nutriceutical fad, the one for a serotonin
> precursor, on the basis that the precursor
> would not cross the blood-brain barrier,
> was told that the brain was not the whole
> story, because "you have to consider the
> spirit". Apparently this precursor
> molecule can cross the blood-spirit barrier.
> Or something.
>
>
> You don't think that there are in fact some out
> there who, although holding medical degrees,
> will solemnly tell you similarly silly things?
>
>
Not in the UK. Medicine here has to be practised strictly in accordance
with evidence based best practice. Anybody making such an assertion
would find themselves having to explain their conduct to the GMC, who
would certainly bar them from practising in the mental health sector,
and would consider striking them off.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> > > >
> > > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> > >
> > > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> > > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> > > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> > > any rate.
> >
> > Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
> > a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
> > symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
> > dopamine precursor deficiency.
>
> In that case, what's your proposed mechanism for increased
> levels of serotonin slapping a patch on a "poor spirit"?
Just as the stimulation of mu receptors in the brain blocks symptoms
arising from an arm being cut off, increasing levels of serotonin
stimulating its receptors blocks the symptoms arising from a spirit
that is poor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Wayward sister "Marie" wrote:
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to reveal to sister Marie that she is traveling on the broad meandering
way of the worldly instead of the straight narrow way of LORD Jesus
Christ. Now she knows why she is suffering from anxiety and panic.
Such is the awesome power of intercessory prayers by the brethren of
LORD Jesus Christ made to our heavenly Father lifting up those who have
been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Art Deco
>Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> > > >
>> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
>> > > >
>> > > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
>> > >
>> > > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
>> > > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
>> > > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
>> > > any rate.
>> >
>> > Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
>> > a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
>> > symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
>> > dopamine precursor deficiency.
>>
>> In that case, what's your proposed mechanism for increased
>> levels of serotonin slapping a patch on a "poor spirit"?
>
>Ju
Shuttup, Chunk.
ah
Shuttup, Chunk.
--
ah
Madison
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164387730.5...@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> It was not by chance but by GOD that your mom heard you.
>
> This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> yet.
>
My pastor said the same thing. I wish I could believe it, he will not answer
me when I ask him if it would be an unforgivable sin, what do you think?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> > yet.
>
> My pastor said the same thing.
It is Scriptural that nothing happens by chance but by GOD (Proverbs
16:33).
> I wish I could believe it, he will not answer
> me when I ask him if it would be an unforgivable sin, what do you think?
Only blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgiveable.
Your thinking of killing yourself is forgiven and will continue to be
forgiven.
Jesus loves you and so we, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, love you.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3)
Amen.
May the Holy Spirit comfort you as only HE can, giving you HIS peace
which passes all worldly understanding and lift up your spirit, dear
Madison whom I love, in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Amen.
Art Deco
I recommend that you ignore and scoff at everything posted by Andy
Chunk.
Art Deco
Gantlet
--
Tom
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164771805.4...@14g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
ah
--
ah
Chris Malcolm
I think that to consider suicide an unforgivable sin is
unreasonable. I don't let the opinions of unreasonable people
affect my attitudes. If an unreasonable god thinks I should pay
attention to his unreasonable views just because he has godly powers
then he's not only unreasonable but a bully to boot.
Since your pastor holds an official position as the interpreter of the
views of a possibly unreasonable deity then he might consider that
sometimes diplomatic silence was the lesser of two evils.
I did twice try to kill myself when young. Fortunately I wasn't
rational and determined enough to succeed, and very fortunately I
didn't permanently cripple myself, which was a possibility I had
very stupidly overlooked.
Life has many more surprises in store than you can imagine. The ticket
for this show cost you nothing, and it might well be the only one
you'll ever get. Why not stay to the end of the show just in case?
:-)
--
Chris Malcolm c...@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Madison wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > It was not by chance but by GOD that your mom heard you.
> >> >
> >> > This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> >> > yet.
> >>
> >> My pastor said the same thing.
> >
> > It is Scriptural that nothing happens by chance but by GOD (Proverbs
> > 16:33).
> >
> >> I wish I could believe it, he will not answer
> >> me when I ask him if it would be an unforgivable sin, what do you think?
> >
> > Only blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgiveable.
> >
> > Your thinking of killing yourself is forgiven and will continue to be
> > forgiven.
> >
> > Jesus loves you and so we, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, love you.
> >
> > "Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
> > -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3)
> >
> > Amen.
> >
> > May the Holy Spirit comfort you as only HE can, giving you HIS peace
> > which passes all worldly understanding and lift up your spirit, dear
> > Madison whom I love, in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
> >
> > Amen.
> Killing yourself is a sin.
>
> --
> Tom
Thinking of doing anything that is not the will of our heavenly Father
is sin.
For this reason, all men and women are sinners except for LORD Jesus
Christ, Son of Man, Lamb of GOD, KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Because sister Madison has chosen to place her faith in LORD Jesus
Christ, her sins are forgiven.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear Tom
whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others just a little bit more, dear sister Madison whom I love
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> > > > >
> > > > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> > > >
> > > > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> > > > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> > > > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> > > > any rate.
> > >
> > > Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
> > > a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
> > > symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
> > > dopamine precursor deficiency.
> >
> > In that case, what's your proposed mechanism for increased
> > levels of serotonin slapping a patch on a "poor spirit"?
>
> Just as the stimulation of mu receptors in the brain blocks symptoms
> arising from an arm being cut off, increasing levels of serotonin
> stimulating its receptors blocks the symptoms arising from a spirit
> that is poor.
Hey, I bet that not only are you right about that, it also
works in the other direction! Clearly, the intense eupohria
induced by heroin must be working via the morphine-receptor/spirit
channel to bring transcendence to the impoverished soul,
and MDMA acts through the dopamine-spirit and serotonin-spirit
channels to instruct the shriveled spirit in empathy
and nurturing.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> > >
> > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> >
> > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> > any rate.
>
> Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
> a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
> symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
> dopamine precursor deficiency.
And so just about anything -- aspirin, isotonic saline,
penicillin, coca-cola -- should palliate the symptoms
of Parinsoniasm?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
> > > > >
> > > > > Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> > > >
> > > > So clearly dosing the Parkinson's patient with dopamine precursors
> > > > or dopamine agonists capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier
> > > > will have no effect on their symptoms, no more than a placebo at
> > > > any rate.
> > >
> > > Just a morphine relieving pain does not indicate that the pain was from
> > > a morphine deficiency, dopamine precursors ameliorating signs and
> > > symptoms of Parkinson's does not indicate that this disease is from
> > > dopamine precursor deficiency.
> >
> > In that case, what's your proposed mechanism for increased
> > levels of serotonin slapping a patch on a "poor spirit"?
>
> Just as the stimulation of mu receptors in the brain blocks symptoms
> arising from an arm being cut off, increasing levels of serotonin
> stimulating its receptors blocks the symptoms arising from a spirit
> that is poor.
Oh, not at all, you've got it exactly backwards: it's the benefical
spiritual effects of serotonin, working via the receptor-spirit
interface, that work to enrich the impoverished soul.
-- cary
Art Deco
Holly
Shuttup, Shunt.
Emmanual Kann
> Gantlet wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> > Madison wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It was not by chance but by GOD that your mom heard you.
>> >> >
>> >> > This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
>> >> > yet.
>> >>
>> >> My pastor said the same thing.
>> >
>> > It is Scriptural that nothing happens by chance but by GOD (Proverbs
>> > 16:33).
>> >
>> Killing yourself is a sin.
>>
>> --
>> Tom
>
> Thinking of doing anything that is not the will of our heavenly Father
> is sin.
>
This is why they kicked me out of confirmation classes, but I'm going to
ask anyway.
How is it that nothing happens by chance but by god, but it is still
possible to do something that is not the will of god? How can anything
that is by god be a sin? As everything is by god, aren't we powerless to
do different.
My advice is quit obsessing about suicide. Either you will off yourself
or you won't and either way is by god, as Proverbs 16:33 tells you. You
don't really have a choice.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Gantlet wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Madison wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It was not by chance but by GOD that your mom heard you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> >> >> > yet.
> >> >>
> >> >> My pastor said the same thing.
> >> >
> >> > It is Scriptural that nothing happens by chance but by GOD (Proverbs
> >> > 16:33).
> >> >
>
> >> Killing yourself is a sin.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom
> >
> > Thinking of doing anything that is not the will of our heavenly Father
> > is sin.
>
> This is why they kicked me out of confirmation classes, but I'm going to
> ask anyway.
>
> How is it that nothing happens by chance but by god, but it is still
> possible to do something that is not the will of god?
It remains GOD's infinite will that souls retain HIS generous gift of
free will.
> How can anything
> that is by god be a sin?
That which is by GOD is not sin.
> As everything is by god, aren't we powerless to
> do different.
We have the free will to think different from the perfect will of GOD.
> My advice is quit obsessing about suicide. Either you will off yourself
> or you won't and either way is by god, as Proverbs 16:33 tells you.
Actually, Proverbs 16:33 applies to events that are believed to be
randomly occurring. Willful acts do not belong among such events.
> You don't really have a choice.
If that were true, you would be incapable of love:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/freewill.asp
May GOD continue to help you with your needs, dear neighbor whom I love
Art Deco
>> As everything is by god, aren't we powerless to
>> do different.
>
>We have the free will to think different from the perfect will of GOD.
Does free will apply to the souls of fig trees, Chunk?
[support froups snecked]
ah
Art Deco
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> > yet.
>
> My pastor said the same thing. I wish I could believe it, he will not answer
> me when I ask him if it would be an unforgivable sin, what do you think?
Again to reiterate with emphasis, your thinking about killing yourself
is a sin but not an unforgiveable one.
Since answering your question, my heart has been troubled.
Your pastor would have answered you as I have if he knew what I know,
in the Holy Spirit.
If your pastor believes that your thinking about killing yourself is an
unforgiveable sin, it is likely that others around you including your
family (by relation and by church) believe the same thing.
This means that you are possibly being cut off from the love of those
around you because they believe you to be condemned by GOD and that
being close to you would mean that they would also be condemned by GOD.
This possibility deeply troubles me.
Please know most assuredly without doubt that not only are your
thoughts of killing yourself forgiveable sins but that they have been
forgiven...
... and that the entire brethren of LORD Jesus Christ loves you deeply
and unconditionally as does our Messiah, Who chose to suffer terribly
and die horribly on the cross to save you and me and the rest of us who
are HIS brethen. The email that I have sent you should prove this to
you.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
will be able to love others just a little bit more, dear sister Madison
Cary Kittrell
And you gather this from her post and/or my response ... how, exactly?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cary Kittrell
Okey-doke, if you're going to indulge in the petty tactic of evasion via
disingenuous literal-mindedness, then I'll play along and refine my
question: what in my post "...reveal[ed] to sister Marie that she is
traveling on the broad meandering way of the worldly instead of the
straight narrow way of LORD Jesus"?
-- cary
Gantlet
first and last name?
Ide like to ask all of you that have added to this thread to show the young
lady a little respect and have it removed from places like google.
sad thing is i dont think you people will. there is a difference between
saying you care and actually caring.
I feel really bad for the young lady that is going throgh so much and now
you have made it so she will never know just how many people in her school
can read what she says and has said here.
I feel sorry for your patients Andrew.B. Chung. but then again I cant see
how you can actually have any.
please remove her name from the archives. she has enough on her mind right
now.
how could you have been so stupid as to not have seen what you could
possibly be doing.
--
Tom
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164711543....@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Convicted atheist neighbor Kutchie wrote:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
>
> Just as dopamine deficiency is not the cause of Parkinson's disease,
> serotonin deficiency is not the cause of either depression, anxiety, or
> panic.
>
> Being poor in spirit causes depression, anxiety, and panic.
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
> to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in excruciating
> pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth-gnashing panic) dear neighbor
> Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> a Dr. that posts a minors personal information over the internet with her
> first and last name?
Actually, I have not posted Madison's personal information over the
internet.
Please know that your false witness is forgiven.
May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Tom whom I love unconditionally.
W. Baker
: a Dr. that posts a minors personal information over the internet with her
: Ide like to ask all of you that have added to this thread to show the young
: lady a little respect and have it removed from places like google.
: sad thing is i dont think you people will. there is a difference between
: saying you care and actually caring.
: I feel really bad for the young lady that is going throgh so much and now
: you have made it so she will never know just how many people in her school
: can read what she says and has said here.
: I feel sorry for your patients Andrew.B. Chung. but then again I cant see
: how you can actually have any.
: please remove her name from the archives. she has enough on her mind right
: now.
: how could you have been so stupid as to not have seen what you could
: possibly be doing.
: --
: Tom
Good, thoughtful post, Tom.
Wendy
: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
: >
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In alt.support.diabetes Gantlet <T...@tomsdiabeticdiary.com> wrote:
> : a Dr. that posts a minors personal information over the internet with her
> : first and last name?
> : Ide like to ask all of you that have added to this thread to show the young
> : lady a little respect and have it removed from places like google.
> : sad thing is i dont think you people will. there is a difference between
> : saying you care and actually caring.
> : I feel really bad for the young lady that is going throgh so much and now
> : you have made it so she will never know just how many people in her school
> : can read what she says and has said here.
> : I feel sorry for your patients Andrew.B. Chung. but then again I cant see
> : how you can actually have any.
> : please remove her name from the archives. she has enough on her mind right
> : now.
> : how could you have been so stupid as to not have seen what you could
> : possibly be doing.
>
> : --
> : Tom
>
> : www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com
>
> Good, thoughtful post, Tom.
Bearing false witness is neither good nor thoughtful.
May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Wendy whom I love unconditionally.
Gantlet
archives.
she is young and going through alot. maybe you didnt post information in
this thread but you sure did make it easy for others to find her other
threads.
Please at least ask her if having her name posted in the archives like this
is something that she does not want and hurt her feelings.
think back about when you were a kid, how would you feel knowing what you
said in the past only under your first name can not be attached because
someone poster your full name.
Please ask her and have you and your friends remove these posts.
--
Tom
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164935677.2...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> please at least ask her if she would like you to remove her name from the
> archives.
I don't have the power to remove anyone's name from the archives.
> she is young and going through alot. maybe you didnt post information in
> this thread but you sure did make it easy for others to find her other
> threads.
Google makes it easy for folks to find Madison's other threads.
> Please at least ask her if having her name posted in the archives like this
> is something that she does not want and hurt her feelings.
It has been her choice interact with folks here on unmoderated usenet.
It is quite possible that the love that has been shown her by people
here who have not ever met her in person has kept her from being
successful at committing suicide.
> think back about when you were a kid, how would you feel knowing what you
> said in the past only under your first name can not be attached because
> someone poster your full name.
In truth, I have not posted her full name but her email name
(Madison_Satonos...).
Fwiw, this email name is not her real name.
> Please ask her and have you and your friends remove these posts.
Again, none of us have the power to remove these posts
Your continuing to bear false witness has been forgiven.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Gantlet" <T...@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote in message
> news:zgLbh.13586$7a2.102@trndny06...
> >a Dr. that posts a minors personal information over the internet with her
> >first and last name?
> > Ide like to ask all of you that have added to this thread to show the
> > young lady a little respect and have it removed from places like google.
> > sad thing is i dont think you people will. there is a difference between
> > saying you care and actually caring.
> > I feel really bad for the young lady that is going throgh so much and now
> > you have made it so she will never know just how many people in her school
> > can read what she says and has said here.
> > I feel sorry for your patients Andrew.B. Chung. but then again I cant see
> > how you can actually have any.
> > please remove her name from the archives. she has enough on her mind right
> > now.
> > how could you have been so stupid as to not have seen what you could
> > possibly be doing.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
>
> it is my fault for responding to one of his posts.
Actually, you asked a question about whether attempting to suicide was
an unforgiveable sin rather than responding to one of my posts. Here
is my most recent reply to you:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/65b6e7782fa2ad11?
> Lucky for me that he does
> not know my real last name.
No such thing as luck (Proverbs 16:33).
> I do not know why he thinks it is Satonos,
> except my yahoo email address is madiso...@yahoo.com. The sato part was
> added to make it unique, after just madison was already taken and sato is
> the name of family members in Hawaii.
In truth, I know your last name is not Satonos.
> Yesterday was my big day, I go to therapy on M-W-F and the doctors on
> Wednesday. At the doctor yesterday they said I was improving, I am not too
> excited, it goes in cycles - I get a little better then a little worse. They
> credit my improvement my strict diet, I have been eating only brown rice,
> steamed chicken breast and specially prepared carrots. I can drink only
> water. I take a lot of supplements and get injections and sometimes IV's to
> correct my electrolytes. In the last year I have lost 20 pounds but it is
> stable for now.
Glad to read this.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear sister Madison whom I love
Gantlet
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164936666.8...@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Gantlet wrote:
>> please at least ask her if she would like you to remove her name from the
>> archives.
>
> I don't have the power to remove anyone's name from the archives.
yes you do but it would take 5 minutes and that is too much time to
help someone feel better.
>> Please at least ask her if having her name posted in the archives like
>> this
>> is something that she does not want and hurt her feelings.
>
> It has been her choice interact with folks here on unmoderated usenet.
so basically what you just said was.
its her fault for meeting someone like you, you did think that was her last
name. or why not just use Madison?
> In truth, I have not posted her full name but her email name
> (Madison_Satonos...).
in truth you only thought you did or you would have said
this in your first reply..
>> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Tom whom I love unconditionally.
you love no one, the only thing you love is seeing your name in posts.
pray for yourself, god knows what is truely in your hear.
Alan S
<wba...@panix.com> wrote:
>Good, thoughtful post, Tom.
>
>Wendy
So thoughtful that he repeated the offending post so that
all those sensible people who have Chung killfiled saw it as
well. Yeah, right, very thoughtful.
Alan, T2, Australia.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> please at least ask her if she would like you to remove her name from the
> >> archives.
> >
> > I don't have the power to remove anyone's name from the archives.
>
> yes you do but it would take 5 minutes and that is too much time to
> help someone feel better.
You are confused.
You are welcome to demonstrate your ability to remove yourself from the
archives over the next 5 minutes.
> >> Please at least ask her if having her name posted in the archives like
> >> this
> >> is something that she does not want and hurt her feelings.
> >
> > It has been her choice to interact with folks here on unmoderated usenet.
>
> so basically what you just said was.
> its her fault for meeting someone like you
No.
In truth, she has not met me. She has not seen me. Nor have I seen
her.
The unconditional love that I have for her sight unseen has been
possible via Christ Jesus' love in my heart.
"...with GOD, all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! !
> , you did think that was her last
> name.
I know that Satonos is not her last name.
> or why not just use Madison?
Using a full name (even if a pseudonym) is respectful.
> > In truth, I have not posted her full name but her email name
> > (Madison_Satonos...).
>
> in truth you only thought you did or you would have said
> this in your first reply..
Madison now knows that you are untruthful because she has received
email from me that has not been addressed to Madison Satonos.
> >> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> > neighbor Tom whom I love unconditionally.
>
> you love no one
If that were true, wouldn't be able to pray for either you or Madison.
> , the only thing you love is seeing your name in posts.
You are projecting.
> pray for yourself, god knows what is truely in your hear.
Indeed HE does. Many thanks and praises to GOD for compelling you to
reveal what is in your heart.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha ! !
Alan S
<T...@TomsDiabeticDiary.com> wrote:
>
>> In truth, I have not posted her full name but her email name
>> (xxxxxxxxxxx).
>
>in truth you only thought you did or you would have said
>this in your first reply..
And, of course, you just repeated his post again. I presume
you are also going to remove every post you've made where
you've done that?
While you're at it, as it is apparently easy for you, you
could remove that vile post you made as
copulator/cheeseburger some years ago. You know which one.
Alan, T2, Australia.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<snip>
> Andrew has shown carelessness in the past. A carelessness I expect
> better than from a physician.
>
> Back when I was first diagnosed, I met with a CDE from my HMO.
> Actually, my wife and I did. In her office, I noticed some Christian
> books, so I started up a conversation about that issue. It turned out
> she had just moved to my part of town and was looking for a new church,
> AND she had attended our church quite a number of years ago. Since our
> church had recently moved, I made sure she had enough information that
> she could attend if she wished.
>
> Well, she did wish, and she went enough that she went to a "newcomers
> class" where she mentioned, when asked, that she knew me. She was cagey
> when asked HOW she knew me...but her husband blurted out that she was a CDE.
>
> So, she ended up calling me at home the next day to apologize for this
> breech of US Medical Privacy laws. Even though it wasn't her fault.
>
> I think it was a year and 4 months ago that Andrew responded to one of
> my posts in his typical cross-posting fashion. My original post
> contained detailed medical information about myself (greater detail than
> my sig). So I replied, in no uncertain terms, that I did not appreciate
> his repeating my private medical information in newsgroups I did not
> originally post it, and that I considered it a violation of US Medical
> Privacy Laws.
It isn't for the simple reasons that you are not my patient and that
anything you choose to post on unmoderated usenet is not longer
considered private.
Truth is simple.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
will be able to love others a little bit more, dear Michael whom I love
cap...@shipper.com
chung was of the opinion:
"It isn't for the simple reasons that you are not my patient and that
anything you choose to post on unmoderated usenet is not longer
considered private.
Truth is simple."
The simple truth would lead most people, even a doctor, to consider the
simple courtesy of staying in the newsgroup in which the original was
located. The letter of the law and the spirit of the law as the
pharisee sees it is the cause of their downfall. There is the simple
truth of the great concern that a simple "I'm sorry" would have
provided. Vanity is a disease no doctor can cure, that is the simple
truth. It is simply true that even now an appology is not too late.
cap...@shipper.com
chung was of the opinion:
"It isn't for the simple reasons that you are not my patient and that
anything you choose to post on unmoderated usenet is not longer
considered private.
Truth is simple."
The simple truth would lead most people, even a doctor, to consider the
simple courtesy of staying in the newsgroup in which the original was
located. The vanity in self defining the letter of the law and the
ah
--
ah
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In alt.support.diabetes Madison <madison_satonos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >>
> >> This means HE has other plans for you than to leave this world just
> >> yet.
>
> > My pastor said the same thing. I wish I could believe it, he will not answer
> > me when I ask him if it would be an unforgivable sin, what do you think?
>
> unreasonable.
It would also be untrue.
> I don't let the opinions of unreasonable people
> affect my attitudes. If an unreasonable god thinks I should pay
> attention to his unreasonable views just because he has godly powers
> then he's not only unreasonable but a bully to boot.
Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.
> Since your pastor holds an official position as the interpreter of the
> views of a possibly unreasonable deity then he might consider that
> sometimes diplomatic silence was the lesser of two evils.
The silence does mean that he believes the suicide attempt to be an
unforgiveable sin.
> I did twice try to kill myself when young. Fortunately I wasn't
> rational and determined enough to succeed, and very fortunately I
> didn't permanently cripple myself, which was a possibility I had
> very stupidly overlooked.
No such thing as either fortunately or unfortunately (Proverbs 16:33)
You did not succeed because it was not GOD's will that you succeed at
killing yourself.
> Life has many more surprises in store than you can imagine. The ticket
> for this show cost you nothing, and it might well be the only one
> you'll ever get. Why not stay to the end of the show just in case?
> :-)
On a higher level, GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, paid for the
entire ride with the promise that if you choose to ride with HIS one
and only begotten SON, it never has to end.
Why not ride with the Son of GOD ?
Why ever end it ?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear friend Chris whom I love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Madison" <madison_s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OradnbAPTbArPe3Y...@giganews.com...
> >
> > "Andrea2" <andrea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:du9vm2dh21obhal06...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Madison, since you on such a restricted diet and eat a lot of brown
> >> rice, you might benefit from making GABA brown rice. It is made from
> >> medium grain brown rice that is germinated, before cooking, to
> >> activate it. See this site:
> >> http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s225249.htm
> >> I make it because we like the flavor and texture better than regular
> >> brown rice, the health benefits are a plus.
> >>
> >> I have a rice maker that has a GABA brown rice cycle but it only soaks
> >> the rice for 2 hours. I like to soak it for 12-16 hours to develop the
> >> best flavor and texture. This can easily be done by placing the rice
> >> pot in the oven at 100 degrees. After activation, I give the rice a
> >> final rice and cook it in the rice maker.
> >>
> >> You take care of yourself, I've been down the road to deep depression
> >> myself for a much different reason than yours. It took me a long time
> >> to recover but I did recover.
> >>
> >> Andrea2
> >
> > It was a new doctor that started me on this diet, he intends to add more
> > different things if I improve enough. At first I could only eat white rice
> > and water, then he changed it to brown rice, then added carrots. The
> > carrots must be peeled sliced and soaked in water for 2 hours before
> > cooking. I get a bad reaction to many things besides gluten.
> >
> > I have been researching GABA rice on the internet, there is some
> > information but not much. At least it gave me something to do. One
> > reference said that the rice could be germinated at room temperature but
> > it takes longer. They didn't say how long that would be. That would be a
> > lot easier, I don't think our oven can be set to 100 degrees. Before I can
> > try it Mom will ask my doctor if it is ok.
> >
> > Madison
> >
>
> After I read this I realized I had made a mistake, I can also eat steamed
> chicken breast. Mom gets organic chicken breasts and steams it without the
> skin in a steamer. I am allowed only a little salt, no pepper or other
> seasonings.
>
> Mom said the reason for peeling and soaking the carrots is to remove as much
> as possible pesticides and chemicals because I might be sensitive to them.
If you are sensitive to pesticides and fertilizers, it would be wiser
for your mom to get organically grown vegetables because no amount of
soaking will get rid of such chemicals.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear sister Madison whom I love