Much like creationists who start with the premise that their particular
interpretation of the Bible is true, and then seek to mold the facts to
the initial assumptions, Gore type environmentalists start with the
premise that man is bad for the environment and seek to mold the facts
to the initial assumptions.
For instance, I believe in ways to safeguard the environment other than
those suggested by Gore type environmentalists, so therefore I'm
against the environment - just like those who doubt creationism are
evil atheists.
Jason Harvestdancer
I suspect there are a few like that, but it seems like a very small part
of those who care about our environment.
> Well, yeah.
>
> Much like creationists who start with the premise that their particular
> interpretation of the Bible is true, and then seek to mold the facts to
> the initial assumptions, Gore type environmentalists start with the
> premise that man is bad for the environment
I disagree with that assertion.
> and seek to mold the facts
> to the initial assumptions.
You are welcome to point out factial errors in Al Gore's presentation.
> For instance, I believe in ways to safeguard the environment other than
Like what?
> those suggested by Gore type environmentalists,
What do "Gore type environmentalists" propose?
What does Al Gore propose?
> so therefore I'm
> against the environment - just like those who doubt creationism are
> evil atheists.
>
> Jason Harvestdancer
Have you actually watched "An Inconvenient truth"? Or do you depend on
someone else's talking points?
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"Like this cup," the master daid, "you are full of your own opinions and
speculations. How can I show you anything unless you first empty your cup?"
Harvest Dancer wrote:
> For instance, I believe in ways to safeguard the environment other than
> those suggested by Gore type environmentalists, so therefore I'm
> against the environment - just like those who doubt creationism are
> evil atheists.
>
> Jason Harvestdancer
Exxon Surrenders but Jason Harvestdancer keeps sucking their dead dick:
Exxon said "Greenhouse gas emissions are one of the factors that
contribute to climate change...
> You are welcome to point out factial errors in Al Gore's presentation.
Omission of climate forcing of CO2 in glacial periods.
Omission of arctic ice and polar bears surviving Holocene Thermal Maximum.
Exaggeration of drought from AGW.
Exaggeration of hurricane increase from AGW.
Omission of benefits of CO2.
Omission of benefits of warmer world.
Oh shut up and suck that dick, whore...
Seems like you're the one with a dick sucking/scatology fixation. Repressed
urges, perhaps?
Boikat
EXXON-DICK PUMPING BULLPUP'S MOUTH ALERT!!!
Ah. Thank you. Is the rest of it accurate?
... which are some of the verses which show that
= environmentalism is to science what astrology is astronomy.
Timber, beware of not becoming a class 3 enviro.
Good luck
hanson
*[1]* ... after the class 1 & 2 enviros coyly tried to put the polar
bear unto the endangered species list, there was a news story
yesterday that said that there are 5 times as many polar bears
today then there were in 1970.
... which are some of the verses which show that
= environmentalism is to science what astrology is astronomy.
Timber, beware of not becoming a class 3 enviro.
Good luck
hanson
*[1]* ... after the class 1 & 2 enviros coyly tried to put the polar
bear unto the endangered species list, there was a new story
yesterday that said there are 5 times as many polar bears
hanson wrote:
> There is NOTHING accurate in Exxonism, because the
> ----- The Exxon & its Theology says: -------
> = "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
> = believe is true ... -- Exxon CEO and ......
> = "A lot of Exxon messages are simply not
> = accurate. We use hype." -- Exxon Chaiman, and...
> = "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
> = mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
> = -- Exxon PR department
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html
Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation
Campaign on Global Warming Science
Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create
Confusion
ExxonMobil Report
Read the Report
ExxonMobil Report (PDF)
Appendix C (PDF high resolution)
Appendix C (part 1)
Appendix C (part 2)
Appendix C (part 3)
WASHINGTON, DC, Jan. 3-A new report from the Union of Concerned
Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how
ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry's disinformation tactics,
as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the
scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the
issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16
million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations
that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.
"ExxonMobil has manufactured uncertainty about the human causes of
global warming just as tobacco companies denied their product caused
lung cancer," said Alden Meyer, the Union of Concerned Scientists'
Director of Strategy & Policy. "A modest but effective investment has
allowed the oil giant to fuel doubt about global warming to delay
government action just as Big Tobacco did for over 40 years."
Smoke, Mirrors & Hot Air: How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco's Tactics to
"Manufacture Uncertainty" on Climate Change details how the oil
company, like the tobacco industry in previous decades, has
* raised doubts about even the most indisputable scientific
evidence
* funded an array of front organizations to create the appearance
of a broad platform for a tight-knit group of vocal climate change
contrarians who misrepresent peer-reviewed scientific findings
* attempted to portray its opposition to action as a positive quest
for "sound science" rather than business self-interest
* used its access to the Bush administration to block federal
policies and shape government communications on global warming
ExxonMobil-funded organizations consist of an overlapping collection of
individuals serving as staff, board members, and scientific advisors
that publish and re-publish the works of a small group of climate
change contrarians. The George C. Marshall Institute, for instance,
which has received $630,000 from ExxonMobil, recently touted a book
edited by Patrick Michaels, a long-time climate change contrarian who
is affiliated with at least 11 organizations funded by ExxonMobil.
Similarly, ExxonMobil funds a number of lesser-known groups such as the
Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy and Committee for a
Constructive Tomorrow. Both groups promote the work of several climate
change contrarians, including Sallie Baliunas, an astrophysicist who is
affiliated with at least nine ExxonMobil-funded groups.
Baliunas is best known for a 2003 paper alleging the climate had not
changed significantly in the past millennia that was rebutted by 13
scientists who stated she had misrepresented their work in her paper.
This renunciation did not stop ExxonMobil-funded groups from continuing
to promote the paper. Through methods such as these, ExxonMobil has
been able to amplify and prop up work that has been discredited by
reputable climate scientists.
"When one looks closely, ExxonMobil's underhanded strategy is as clear
and indisputable as the scientific research it's meant to discredit,"
said Seth Shulman, an investigative journalist who wrote the UCS
report. "The paper trail shows that, to serve its corporate interests,
ExxonMobil has built a vast echo chamber of seemingly independent
groups with the express purpose of spreading disinformation about
global warming."
ExxonMobil has used the laudable goal of improving scientific
understanding of global warming-under the guise of "sound
science"-for the pernicious ends of delaying action to reduce
heat-trapping emissions indefinitely. ExxonMobil also exerted
unprecedented influence over U.S. policy on global warming, from
successfully recommending the appointment of key personnel in the Bush
administration to funding climate change deniers in Congress.
"As a scientist, I like to think that facts will prevail, and they do
eventually," said Dr. James McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of
Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and former chair of the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's working group on climate
change impacts. "It's shameful that ExxonMobil has sought to obscure
the facts for so long when the future of our planet depends on the
steps we take now and in the coming years."
The burning of oil and other fossil fuels results in additional
atmospheric carbon dioxide that blankets the Earth and traps heat. The
amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased greatly over the last
century and global temperatures are rising as a result. Though
solutions are available now that will cut global warming emissions
while creating jobs, saving consumers money, and protecting our
national security, ExxonMobil has manufactured confusion around climate
change science, and these actions have helped to forestall meaningful
action that could minimize the impacts of future climate change.
"ExxonMobil needs to be held accountable for its cynical disinformation
campaign on global warming," said Meyer. "Consumers, shareholders and
Congress should let the company know loud and clear that its behavior
on this issue is unacceptable and must change."
Gee. I must have struck a nerve. So, how long have you had these..urges to
suck everyone's dick that replies to your posts?
Boikat
What in "I have different solutions" makes you read "I oppose all
solutions"? Never mind, you won't answer. You never answer, do you
Chive?
You didn't answer my question. All you did was give some possibly
made-up and probably out-of-context quotes by people some of whom are
discredited as environmentalists and claim that envitonmentalism is a
religion. You did not actually refute any of the rest of the
documentary.
>
> *[1]* ... after the class 1 & 2 enviros coyly tried to put the polar
> bear unto the endangered species list, there was a news story
> yesterday that said that there are 5 times as many polar bears
> today then there were in 1970.
That doesn't necessarily mean that the polar bear is not endangered. And
if the species environment is about to undergo a radical transformation,
then there is a danger to the species, no matter how well it has been
doing over the last 36 years. I also notice that as with your other
quotes, you didn't give a cite for that news story.
Thank you for playing.
-------- The 40 year old scheme of the Green Scam ----------
Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications:
========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green shit(s):
...are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,
institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
.. are the unpaid, well-meaning ones, in "environmental
groups" who think they do something for the "environment",
when in fact they are only the enablers and facilitators for
(2) who are harvesting the green $$$ that (1) has extorted.
A lot of class 1 & 2 enviros are calling themselves no
longer "environmentalists" but *"conservationists"* now,.
such as foundations, corporats, lawyers, celebs & RICH fat
cats who are conserving those lands for future generations:
Their OWN descendants only, of course, while all the little
green idiots do the hard and dirty work for them & pay!
---------- Views after 40 years of green criminality --------
=1= In June 05 USDA/FDA aired/published that they will
no longer endorse green products that are labeled "organic"!
=2= The FBI and Homeland Security/DHS has declared
enviros to be the number one terrorist threat to the nation.
=3= Myriads of good, rational & HARD WORKING folks had
enough from environmentalism and began to raise their voices
as did E. Gisin in news:d8j4d...@enews1.newsguy.com...
wherein it sounds like this: "Fucking greens should be shot...."
...and as an encore do never forget that
= Pure politics is driving dozens of public health issues, notably
= global warming, green shit, tobacco & meds now. Great lies
= in service for/of a "noble cause" do trump now truth & fact.
=
= Enviros use the same great lies of yore. Only the color changed.
= (A) Environmentalism is Communism in Green...
= (B) Environmentalism is Nazism in Green...
= (C) Environmentalism makes the Poor poorer and the Rich richer.
Environmentalism is nothing but green pornography,
pimped by green orgs like NRDC, Sierra club, Green Piss, etc.,
whored and hookered by green bureaucrats from EPA down,
johned, pole- and lapdanced by the hordes of little green idiots
and paid for by extorting the money from hardworking taxpayers.
Environmentalism is a malignant, parasitic socio-pathology,
promulgated by opportunistic ex-communists and misogynic,
unemployable perverts, who have succeeded in generating
enviro taxes, permit fees and user surcharges, from which these
useless, enviro-pushers and eco-fanatics draw their welfare checks
and demand grants to generate more enviro shit.
ahahahaha... BTW, do copy and use these above clarifications
often and profusely. There is no permit charge or user fee
associated with it. and nobody will accuse you of plagiarism.
It's a free public service announcement... Use it. Have fun!
ahahahaha... ahahahanson
<snip list of scatology and desperate snapping>
Sorry to back you into a corner like that, hanson, but it *is
traditional on talk.origins to ask for cites or reasoned arguments to
back up any claims of fact, especially those which contradict
mainstream science.
So, this seems to be your way of saying that you have absolutely no
evidence to support your claims. Am I wrong? Note that the simplest and
quickest way to refute my hypothesis is to offer evidence.
Kermit
Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <y8%qh.3289$E35.1992@trnddc02>, "hanson" <han...@quick.net>
> wrote:
<SNIPPAGE>
>>
>> *[1]* ... after the class 1 & 2 enviros coyly tried to put the polar
>> bear unto the endangered species list, there was a news story
>> yesterday that said that there are 5 times as many polar bears
>> today then there were in 1970.
>
> That doesn't necessarily mean that the polar bear is not endangered. And
> if the species environment is about to undergo a radical transformation,
> then there is a danger to the species, no matter how well it has been
> doing over the last 36 years. I also notice that as with your other
> quotes, you didn't give a cite for that news story.
Unsurprisingly, since the news story was wrong.
Some info on the issues is at:
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/polarbearsatrisk.pdf
Including the statement that polar bear populations were estimated at 22,000
in 2002.
In 1970, polar bears were still being hunted; they were protected only two
years later. One would hope that populations would increase after banning
hunting. Their population then was estimated at 10,000:
http://pbsg.npolar.no/Meetings/PressReleases/02-Morges.htm
Which brings down any increase from 5 tiem sto 2.2 times.
More importantly, however, the population in Western Hudson Bay, however,
has been declining since 1987, as sea-ice has melted:
"The polar bear population in Western Hudson Bay, the most-studied of all
populations, has declined from approximately 1,200 bears in 1987, to 1,100
bears in 1995, and then to fewer than 950 bears in 2004 due to ice loss.
And in April 2006, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center reported that
winter sea ice -- defined as the area with sea ice concentrations of 15
percent or greater -- has shrunk in the past year by over 115,000 square
miles, an area about the size of the Arizona, reaching a new record low of
5.60 million square miles (14.5 million square kilometers)."
http://www.nrdc.org/media/pressreleases/061227.asp
>
> Thank you for playing.
--
Robin Levett
rle...@rlevett.ibmuklunix.net (unmunge by removing big blue - don't yahoo)
Stupid-head, why are you trying so hard to discredit your argument by
inane arguments such as guilt by association, appeal to the masses,
slippery-slope, and ad-hominem?
<snipped a stupid copy-paste announcement intended for entertainment>
> It's a free public service announcement... Use it. Have fun!
> ahahahaha... ahahahanson
--
--------- [Prior barks form Woofer ] --------------
>
[Timberwoof to Al Bedo]
-------- The 40 year old scheme of the Green Scam ----------
--------- [Prior barks form Woofer ] --------------
>
[Timberwoof to Al Bedo]
-------- The 40 year old scheme of the Green Scam ----------
hanson wrote:
> There is NOTHING accurate in environmentalism, because the
> ----- The EXXON Bible & its Theology says: -------
> = "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
> = believe is true ... -- EXXON CEO, and ......
> = "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
> = accurate. We use hype." -- EXXON PR Dept, and...
> = "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
> = mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
First Uterus Transplant Operation: HoHo Hanson Signs Up to Have Exxon's
Baby.
Sci.environment must be completely polluted.
Sue (updating killfile)
--
"It's not smart or correct, but it's one of the things that
make us what we are." - Red Green
Infantile hate-fuelled diatribe snipped.
Hey Mr. Feed-and-Breed.
Why don't you improve the state of the planet by removing yourself from
it as quickly as you can you pathetic piece of human garbage? Does
spewing your ignorant cretinous bile over the internet give you a great
big stiffy?
"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
way of a whole human being". (Abraham Lincoln).
ahahahaha what a thoroughly unpleasant and frankly, scary person you
are.
goodbye
Please be aware the serial reposting of the same content over and over
is spam, and will be treated as such.
This includes massive signature files that are >> 4 lines.
--D.
--
david iain greig dgr...@ediacara.org
moderator, talk.origins sp4 kox
http://www.ediacara.org/~dgreig arbor plena alouattarum
(snip)
So, IOW, you can't provide any cites or evidence. What a spectacular
loser you are.
Eric Root
> >
> [Kershit]
> > <snip list of scatology and desperate snapping>
> > Sorry to back you into a corner like that, hanson, but it *is
> > traditional on talk.origins to ask for cites or reasoned arguments to
> > back up any claims of fact, especially those which contradict
> > mainstream science.
> > So, this seems to be your way of saying that you have absolutely no
> > evidence to support your claims. Am I wrong? Note that the simplest
> > and quickest way to refute my hypothesis is to offer evidence.
> > Kermit
> >
> [hanson]
> Your question "Am I wrong?" is good, 'cuz your implied doubts
> are perhaps your only saving grace. Of course, "the simplest
> etc, etc.. evidence" is right here, repeated exclusively for your
> personal benefits. Here it is:
It is SOP for folks looking for truth to understand their limitations.
Feeling certain does not actually make one infallible, you know.
<remove insults>
[...]
Nothing left. So it seems that you indeed have no actual evidence or
reasoned arguments, simply repeated scatological sexual obsessions. I
thought so; simply making sure.
Thank you.
Kermit
hanson wrote:
> ahahahaha... ahahahanson
hanson wrote:
> ahahahaha... ahahahanson
You're a fucking loony.
Attacking the mod? That's a great way to ensure your continued posting
privlidges. DIG (praised be his initials) is very tolerant, but
spamming is one of the great sins of talk.origins. The other is
attacking DIG (praised be his initials).
Will this poster be borked or banned? Only the great DIG (praised be
his initials) knows.
Jason Harvestdancer
(snip)
That's just the exact same crap you've been spamming over and over
again. None of it is a cite, and none of it is evidence.
Eric Root
[hanson]
The first impression was that you did not believe me and Ray. But
you did the dirty work for us. Why don't you poor, poverty-stricken
slob get some big $$$$ for yourself instead of acting and posting
like an Islamist martyr?.... ahahaha... You might even sell some
of your "H2-PV, PV-H2" <fo...@h2-pv.us> stuff, if you do it with
same fanaticism that you post in your rants, UNPAID, on the Usenet.
Stop being a little green idiot, Lion Kuntz. Get $$$$ for your efforts.
Don't let the big Greenies continue to fuck you like Hogan's goat!
>
Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit" aka "Exxon Cock, Hanson's Mouth"
<Exxon...@ecovilliage.us> wrote in message
news:1169066857.1...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> hanson wrote:
>> ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>> >
["Awe Shit"]
> Hanson Wallows in Exxon's Brown Turds -- If ignorance is bliss, you
> must be the happiest person on earth.
>
[hanson]
.... of course.... ahahaha... & who cares, "Awe Shit":
==== Money talks -- your green bullshit walks ====
See, you confirmed it yourself in your own post below.
Switch sides and make money! --- It's easy, Lion.
>
["Awe Shit"]
> http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html
> Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation
> Campaign on Global Warming Science
> Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create
> Confusion
>
[hanson]
See, there is only confusion in your own green mind, "Awe Shit".
"Awe Shit" it's simple. "Awe Shit" remember:
==== Money talks -- green bullshit walks" =====
>
Thanks for helping me so altruistically for the green to roll in,
$$$$$ that is... moneys into my coffers... ahahaha... "Awe Shit",
you are such a good sport, a great humanitarian and a fine
albeit poor philanthropist with a great heart that helps the already
filthy rich people to get richer... The way it ought to be, of course,
to make:... "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer".
You have the right vision, "Awe Shit". Thank you!
Now, in case you missed it here's the post where I admitted
to this for the first time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/d6f5c8f5cc1fbf05
[start] wherein it says:
Hey, "Awe Shit", thanks for the "sorting work" you do for me.
"Awe Shit" listen, don't feel bad now, I still will continue to
crank you, because they pay me for that: $627.-- per word.
Their humongous profits allow them to be that generous.
You are, unbeknownst to you, a hilarious and "easy-money"
generating source for me, and they can write it off as a biz
expense. Costs them zilch. I get that dough. Not the govt.
Now count the words here x $627.-- That'll be my GREEN$$.
Thanks, "Awe Shit".... ahaha... ahahanson
[end]
>
Now then "Awe Shit", not only did you, "Awe Shit" help me, but
also, as you can see, you did the same volunteering for Ray Lopez,
him accumulating of his $$$$$$ in his offshore bank accounts.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/b8ee7a6dca8ed7af
wherein he says:
>
[Ray]
Same here ahahahanson! I get paid by the word too--spamming for Big
Industries--but they don't call it spam--"consulting" is more like it.
And, being offshore (you'll notice from my header--I moved a few years
ago from Californication) I pay ZERO in taxes! Idiot "Awe Shit", if
he's stateside, is paying my share! LOL! I hope to break the $1M mark
one of these days (six figures I've been doing for the last 10 years).
(Meanwhile these Green Idiots like Err-Hick and prolix John are driving
a beat up VW or riding the bus....
>
["Awe Shit's" response to Ray]
>
------- "Awe Shit"s unsolicited pimping [1] for Ray Lopez --------
[Lion Kuntz aka "Awe Shit"]
Re: Ray Lopez Wants a Sex-Change Operation so He Can Have Exxon's Baby!
"Ray Lopez Lies! Karl Rove's Bumboy" <Weasle_...@h2-pv.us> wrote in
message news:1168995459.5...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ray Lopez Wants a Sex-Change Operation so He Can Have Exxon's Baby!
>
[Ray]
> raylopez99 wrote:
>> later--I got a date with THREE chicks tommorrow (honestly, I've never
>> had a date with three girls at the same time who weren't working at the
>> bar, LOL, so this should be a first).
>> Planning a trip to Havana this year--sex tour--followed by SE Asia, and
>> maybe Africa (never done that, so it should be experienced at least
>> once with the opposite sex). Need to find a girl sweet like Janet
>> Jackson or Mariah but a wee bit younger--18 is about right, LOL
>> --that's doable outside the US with no problem.
>> RL
>
[Lion Kuntz, the pimp "Awe Shit"]
> Be sure to have Karl Rove give you some numbers from his little black [1]
> book. Oops, Rove has never once been seen in the companionship of a
> member of the opposite sex, has he? By the way, which sex would be
> opposite to the Pillsbury Doughboy, anyway?
> Ray Lopez Wants a Sex-Change Operation so He Can Have Exxon's Baby!
>
[hanson]
Awe Shit, listen, there's Ray and me who came forward, but
there are many others too for whom YOU have made chunks of
money. When will you start making some $$$$ for YOURSELF?...
instead of you throwing away the little you have with your
useless pissing into every post... Get with it, dude... Go with
the flow, Lion... Make friends instead of enemies.. and don't
pimp too openly, like you did above. These politician blow with
the wind and ride the coat tails behind the real rich boys' asses.
Learn to chose right, which is NOT nesessarilty the Right.
Get it, Lion?
Thanks again, hanson
Did I really? Please enlighten me by pointing them out. Pretend I am as
stupid as you are (is that possible?) and need to have everything
spelled out in large block capitals.
> news:1168995919.7...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > A load of bollocks [in his] Infantile hate-fuelled diatribe to hanson
> 'cuz "Corny McU" did not get to hear what he wanted to hear, & said
> >
> [Corny McU]
> > Hey Mr. Feed-and-Breed.
> > Why don't you improve the state of the planet by removing
> > yourself from it as quickly as you can you pathetic piece of
> > human garbage? Does spewing your ignorant cretinous bile
> > over the internet give you a great big stiffy? ....
> >
> [hanson]
> ahahaha.... sorry to hear that you have "great big stiffy" problems
The only problem I have at the moment is with a great big prick. As a
matter of interest were you born that way or did it take a lifetime of
dedicated practice?
> but that is your own misfortune,
My misfortune is having to breathe the same air as human offal like
you.
.... but gravely, you "Corny McU",
> are one of those cases why " The FBI & Homeland Security/DHS
> has declared enviros to be the number one terrorist threat to
> the nation"... ...You are on their watch lists now... ahahahaha....
OOOOOH!! I am SOOOO scared. Does this mean my poor little country is in
danger of coming under the scrutiny of the Unholy Trinity of George
W(anker) Bush, Dickhead Cheney and CondomSleazy Rice with a view to
possible future invasio......er, preventative action? Well hardly, no
oil reserves over here. Does my niece now face deportation from the
USA because of family ties with a threat to National Security? May the
Irish government expect an oh-so-polite request for my extradition to
appear before the House Un-American Activities Committee? I tell you I
will not be able to get a nights sleep unless I am assured that my wife
will sit up watching over me with her hairdryer at the ready.
> Read the whole thing again, below, so that you see that I mean
> well for you. Here it is again, for your personal benefit.
Thanks but no thanks. No matter how often one reads drivel it always
remains drivel.
> Thanks for the laughs, Corny McU, ... ahahaha... ahahanson
Always happy to enrich the miserable, meaningless existence of my
inferiors. Sorry I had to use words of more than one syllable, I
appreciate how difficult it must be for someone whose intellect (such
as it is) resides below his belt buckle.
snip
> >
> [hanson]
> what is this "DIG (praised be his initials)" shit? Clue me in.
> ahahaha.... ahahahanson
Talk.origins is a moderated group. For the most part it is
robo-moderated to prevent excessive cross-posting, or cross-posting to
certain support groups that suffered greatly at the hands of one of
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EXXON-DICK PUMPING HANSON'S MOUTH ALERT!!!: -- Why do I bother with
you? Even the losers I would never acknowledge avoid you because you're
nothing. You're not even a troll.
Easy Chris, this could easily be interpreted as threatening him and you
could find yourself under investigation by the FBI, CIA, Homeland
Security etc. You know what a sensitive soul he is.
>
> Chris
Cornelius
."I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
Sorry, forgot my sig. Must have been because I was quaking in my boots
at the time because of horses arse hanson's pontifications and
prognostications. I tell you, being confronted with so much stupenduous
ignorance can be decidedly scary.Anyway here goes.
Typical anti-conservation retort would go something like: "Tastes like
chicken." That's a clue to their maturity level.
But with the Pacific, the Philippines got more than their share of
nasty typhoons this year so there's more than meets the eye with
tropical weather patterns. Global warming might only be one factor.
I would like to thank this clown and Hanson for giving me the impetus
to see if there is a functional google groups killfile for Firefox.
I'm pleased to say that there is. You can find it at
http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
And with that, I'm proud to announce my very first
<PLONK>
hanson wrote:
> > EXXON-DICK PUMPING HANSON'S MOUTH ALERT!!!: --
> > Why do I bother with you? Even the losers I would never
> > acknowledge avoid you because you're nothing.
> > You're not even a troll.
> >
> [hanson]
> ahahaha...
You fudge-packing, stray dog-humping, armpit-licking, cunt-sucking,
boil-nibbling, shit-brained fucktard! You knuckleheaded,
gibbon-groping, shit-slurping, ass-munching, puss-nibbling, butt-headed
shithead! You peckerheaded, father-groping, shit-licking, shit-sucking,
zit-nibbling, shit-brained dickweasel! You dumbshited, baboon-groping,
armpit-slurping, tit-guzzling, hemorrhoid-chewing, butt-faced dumbfuck!
You shanky-assed, donkey-fucking, crotch-sniffing, toe jam-munching,
pimple-nibbling, cock-faced fucktard! You shanky-assed,
grandma-groping, gym sock-smelling, cunt-sucking, puss-chewing,
cock-headed bobblehead! You anal-invading, donkey-groping,
shit-slurping, rectal-guzzling, boil-popping, dick-brained dipshit! You
window licking, sister-raping, armpit-licking, tit-guzzling,
zit-popping, wank-brained sausage jockey!
ahahaha... he cranked himself grievously ..... hahahahahaha...
"Lion Kuntz" aka "Awe Shit" aka "Loin Cunts" aka "Palace Troll"
aka "Hohoho Hanson Loves Brown Turds, not Green Ones"
aka <Global.Warming at ARMY.com> / " <Net_Police at h2-pv.us>
aka "Exxon Pays Liars" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Exxon Crime Spree" <Exxon.RICO.Frauds at ecovilliage.us> >
aka "Hanson Sucked Me, Did He Suck You?"
aka "Crooked Exxon Crooked Hired Liars"
aka "H2-PV, PV-H2" <foo at h2-pv.us> etc., etc.....
aka "Exxon Cock, Hanson's Mouth" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Mass Cattle Deaths, Another Global Warming Result"
aka "Exxon's Dick Pumping Hanson's Mouth" wrote in message
news:1169086372....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
news:1169076161....@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> have we swaggering here.
> You fudge-packing, stray dog-humping, armpit-licking, cunt-sucking,
> boil-nibbling, shit-brained fucktard! You knuckleheaded,
> gibbon-groping, shit-slurping, ass-munching, puss-nibbling, butt-headed
> shithead! You peckerheaded, father-groping, shit-licking, shit-sucking,
> zit-nibbling, shit-brained dickweasel! You dumbshited, baboon-groping,
> armpit-slurping, tit-guzzling, hemorrhoid-chewing, butt-faced dumbfuck!
> You shanky-assed, donkey-fucking, crotch-sniffing, toe jam-munching,
> pimple-nibbling, cock-faced fucktard! You shanky-assed,
> grandma-groping, gym sock-smelling, cunt-sucking, puss-chewing,
> cock-headed bobblehead! You anal-invading, donkey-groping,
> shit-slurping, rectal-guzzling, boil-popping, dick-brained dipshit! You
> window licking, sister-raping, armpit-licking, tit-guzzling,
> zit-popping, wank-brained sausage jockey!
>
> Why do I bother with you? Even the losers I would never
> acknowledge avoid you because you're nothing.
> You're not even a troll.
>
[hanson]
AHAHAHAHA... "Why do I bother with you?"... ahahaha...
... ahaha.. But "Awe Shit" you just did it again, and you
even use the to you very precious "Hanson" in most of
your handles' subject lines because you cannot attract
attention in any other way... ahahahaAHAHA... Now, "Awe
Shit", did you make any money yet? Here is how you can:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/ec5db72390ee0f99
Thanks for the money, "Awe Shit", ... ... ahahahanson
Who has more money for science research, EXXON or YOU? Who has more
than 12,000 patents filed by staff scientists, EXXON or YOU. When they
say CO2 causes Global Warming Climate Change, you shut your dicksucking
mouth and accept it.
Exxon Surrenders but Death-Rag keeps sucking their dead dick: Exxon
said "Greenhouse gas emissions are one of the factors that contribute
to climate change...
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html
Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil's Tobacco-like Disinformation
Campaign on Global Warming Science
Oil Company Spent Nearly $16 Million to Fund Skeptic Groups, Create
Confusion
ExxonMobil Report
Read the Report
ExxonMobil Report (PDF)
Appendix C (PDF high resolution)
Appendix C (part 1)
Appendix C (part 2)
Appendix C (part 3)
WASHINGTON, DC, Jan. 3-A new report from the Union of Concerned
Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how
ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry's disinformation tactics,
as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the
scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the
issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16
million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations
that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.
"ExxonMobil has manufactured uncertainty about the human causes of
global warming just as tobacco companies denied their product caused
lung cancer," said Alden Meyer, the Union of Concerned Scientists'
Director of Strategy & Policy. "A modest but effective investment has
allowed the oil giant to fuel doubt about global warming to delay
government action just as Big Tobacco did for over 40 years."
Smoke, Mirrors & Hot Air: How ExxonMobil Uses Big Tobacco's Tactics to
"Manufacture Uncertainty" on Climate Change details how the oil
company, like the tobacco industry in previous decades, has
* raised doubts about even the most indisputable scientific
evidence
* funded an array of front organizations to create the appearance
of a broad platform for a tight-knit group of vocal climate change
contrarians who misrepresent peer-reviewed scientific findings
* attempted to portray its opposition to action as a positive quest
for "sound science" rather than business self-interest
* used its access to the Bush administration to block federal
policies and shape government communications on global warming
ExxonMobil-funded organizations consist of an overlapping collection of
individuals serving as staff, board members, and scientific advisors
that publish and re-publish the works of a small group of climate
change contrarians. The George C. Marshall Institute, for instance,
which has received $630,000 from ExxonMobil, recently touted a book
edited by Patrick Michaels, a long-time climate change contrarian who
is affiliated with at least 11 organizations funded by ExxonMobil.
Similarly, ExxonMobil funds a number of lesser-known groups such as the
Annapolis Center for Science-Based Public Policy and Committee for a
Constructive Tomorrow. Both groups promote the work of several climate
change contrarians, including Sallie Baliunas, an astrophysicist who is
affiliated with at least nine ExxonMobil-funded groups.
Baliunas is best known for a 2003 paper alleging the climate had not
changed significantly in the past millennia that was rebutted by 13
scientists who stated she had misrepresented their work in her paper.
This renunciation did not stop ExxonMobil-funded groups from continuing
to promote the paper. Through methods such as these, ExxonMobil has
been able to amplify and prop up work that has been discredited by
reputable climate scientists.
"When one looks closely, ExxonMobil's underhanded strategy is as clear
and indisputable as the scientific research it's meant to discredit,"
said Seth Shulman, an investigative journalist who wrote the UCS
report. "The paper trail shows that, to serve its corporate interests,
ExxonMobil has built a vast echo chamber of seemingly independent
groups with the express purpose of spreading disinformation about
global warming."
ExxonMobil has used the laudable goal of improving scientific
understanding of global warming-under the guise of "sound
science"-for the pernicious ends of delaying action to reduce
heat-trapping emissions indefinitely. ExxonMobil also exerted
unprecedented influence over U.S. policy on global warming, from
successfully recommending the appointment of key personnel in the Bush
administration to funding climate change deniers in Congress.
"As a scientist, I like to think that facts will prevail, and they do
eventually," said Dr. James McCarthy, Alexander Agassiz Professor of
Biological Oceanography at Harvard University and former chair of the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's working group on climate
change impacts. "It's shameful that ExxonMobil has sought to obscure
the facts for so long when the future of our planet depends on the
steps we take now and in the coming years."
The burning of oil and other fossil fuels results in additional
atmospheric carbon dioxide that blankets the Earth and traps heat. The
amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased greatly over the last
century and global temperatures are rising as a result. Though
solutions are available now that will cut global warming emissions
while creating jobs, saving consumers money, and protecting our
national security, ExxonMobil has manufactured confusion around climate
change science, and these actions have helped to forestall meaningful
action that could minimize the impacts of future climate change.
"ExxonMobil needs to be held accountable for its cynical disinformation
campaign on global warming," said Meyer. "Consumers, shareholders and
Congress should let the company know loud and clear that its behavior
on this issue is unacceptable and must change."
ahahaha... he cranked himself grievously ..... hahahahahaha...
"Lion Kuntz" aka "Awe Shit" aka "Loin Cunts" aka "Palace Troll"
aka "Hohoho Hanson Loves Brown Turds, not Green Ones"
aka <Global.Warming at ARMY.com> / " <Net_Police at h2-pv.us>
aka "Exxon Pays Liars" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Exxon Crime Spree" <Exxon.RICO.Frauds at ecovilliage.us> >
aka "Hanson Sucked Me, Did He Suck You?"
aka "Crooked Exxon Crooked Hired Liars"
aka "H2-PV, PV-H2" <foo at h2-pv.us> etc., etc.....
aka "Exxon Cock, Hanson's Mouth" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Mass Cattle Deaths, Another Global Warming Result"
aka "Exxon's Dick Pumping Hanson's Mouth" wrote in message
aka "Hanson wallows in Exxon's Brown Turds"
aka "Hanson.Crackwhore at ecovilliage.us>
ahahaha... he cranked himself grievously ..... hahahahahaha...
"Lion Kuntz" aka "Awe Shit" aka "Loin Cunts" aka "Palace Troll"
aka "Hohoho Hanson Loves Brown Turds, not Green Ones"
aka <Global.Warming at ARMY.com> / " <Net_Police at h2-pv.us>
aka "Exxon Pays Liars" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Exxon Crime Spree" <Exxon.RICO.Frauds at ecovilliage.us> >
aka "Hanson Sucked Me, Did He Suck You?"
aka "Crooked Exxon Crooked Hired Liars"
aka "H2-PV, PV-H2" <foo at h2-pv.us> etc., etc.....
aka "Exxon Cock, Hanson's Mouth" <Exxon.Lies at ecovilliage.us>
aka "Mass Cattle Deaths, Another Global Warming Result"
aka "Exxon's Dick Pumping Hanson's Mouth" wrote in message
aka "Hanson wallows in Exxon's Brown Turds"
aka "Hanson.Crackwhore at ecovilliage.us>
>
Who has more money for science research, EXXON or YOU? Who has more
than 12,000 patents filed by staff scientists, EXXON or YOU. When they
say CO2 causes Global Warming Climate Change, you shut your dicksucking
mouth and accept it.
Exxon Surrenders but Death-Rag keeps sucking their dead dick: Exxon
Exxon Surrenders but Hanson keeps sucking their dead dick: Exxon said
> Ernest Major wrote:
>
> > In message <1168897489.4...@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
> > Harvest Dancer <harves...@hotmail.com> writes
> >> Well, yeah.
> >>
> >> Much like creationists who start with the premise that their particular
> >> interpretation of the Bible is true, and then seek to mold the facts to
> >> the initial assumptions, Gore type environmentalists start with the
> >> premise that man is bad for the environment and seek to mold the facts
> >> to the initial assumptions.
>
> Man is demonstrably bad for the environment.
Bull. *CERTAIN* human activities are hamful to the ecosystem.
--
regards , Peter B. P. - http://titancity.com/blog , http://macplanet.dk
"If guns kill, do pencils cause spelling errors?"
You do have a penchant for repetition don't you? Of course that is only
to be expected from someone who never had an original thought in his
sad, pathetic wasted existence (I won't dignify it by using the term
"life"). Now be a good little boy and get back to kissing corporate
arse. By the way, how does it feel to have an IQ of less than your shoe
or collar size?
[snip]
Wow. I would never trade getting the last word for being mentally ill.
Chris
(snip crap)
> >
> [Eric]
> > That's just the exact same crap you've been spamming over and over
> > again. None of it is a cite, and none of it is evidence.
> > Eric Root
> >
> [hanson]
> .... ahahaha... That only seems to you to be this way because you
> didn't get to hear what you wanted to hear. You appear to be
> severely damaged goods from having been victimized by the
> green Bible that taught you (cit) to believe that:
> >
"Green Bible?" You are hallucinating. What's that? Also, evidently
anti-environment creeps evidently are as addicted to quote mines as
anti-science creeps in general. You still have offered one shred of
evidence, just a bunch of babbled quotes. So, you lose.
(snip repetitious spam)
Eric Root
> Bull. *CERTAIN* human activities are hamful to the ecosystem.
Amost all human activities harm the environment.
I'd say that most human activities *impact* the environment, but
whether that impact is beneficial or harmful depends on two things.
1 - what the action and impact is
2 - what you would consider to be a harmful impact or a beneficial
impact.
Jason Harvestdancer
Exxon Surrenders but Roger Dewhurst keeps sucking their dead dick:
Exxon said
"Greenhouse gas emissions are one of the factors that contribute to
climate change...
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tob...
Exxon Creams on Death-Rag wrote:
> Who has more money for science research, EXXON or YOU? Who has more
> than 12,000 patents filed by staff scientists, EXXON or YOU. When they
> say CO2 causes Global Warming Climate Change, you shut your dicksucking
> mouth and accept it.
Lion, why are you so obsessed with feces and dick sucking?
Jason Harvestdancer
Why do you suck Exxon's Dick in public and eat their shit?
Who has more money for science research, EXXON or YOU? Who has more
than 12,000 patents filed by staff scientists, EXXON or YOU. When they
say CO2 causes Global Warming Climate Change, you shut your dicksucking
mouth and accept it.
Exxon Surrenders but Roger Dewhurst keeps sucking their dead dick:
T.O. trimmed, and (for the second time), <plonk-the-moron>
<snip>
Boikat
Re, check it: Re, check it, dig dis: Is Al Go'e some damn New Religion ?
Re, check it, check it: Is Al Go'e some damn New Religion ? etc. Word!..
>
O'ganization, check it: University uh Ediaca'a
T'rowa': news@da'win. 'S coo', bro.ediaca'a. Sheeeiit.o'g
Approved, check it: robomod@ediaca'a. Sheeeiit.o'g say, dig dis:
> Danks fo' de laughs, Co'ny. Slap mah fro! Slap mah fro. Right On!..
> ahahaha. Sheeeiit. Sheeeiit... ahahahanson
[hanson]
'Sup moderato'... be dat yo' style uh moderatin'?
T' show off yo' own racism an' hatred fo' Blacks...
Jes' as in fascist states blamin' oda's, likes ya here
blamin' Lion Kuntz & usin' mah' hanson-handle t'
'espress de real feelings in yo' yo' posts...
You's is some damn splendid 'esample uh environmentalism. Right On!
Danks fo' de laughs. Right On!... hahahaha. Sheeeiit... ahahahanson
Yo' own moderato' be blamin' Lion Kuntz an' be usin'
mah' hanson-handle fo' his posts.... ahaha. Sheeeiit... As if Ah' ca'e, check it:
Check de 'haiders, check it:
O'ganization, dig dis: University uh Ediaca'a
T'rowa': news@da'win. 'S coo', bro.ediaca'a. Sheeeiit.o'g
Approved, dig dis: robomod@ediaca'a. Sheeeiit.o'g
an' yo' Moderato' be lettin' his virulent racism an' hatred
against Blacks show dru. Man!.. an' as bad-ass as dat be, even wo'se
be how truly amazin' yo' shaky (collective) belief as AFA
environmentalism be. If it wuz strong an' sincere an' free
uh cons an' co'uption, den ya would not git shook down so's
easily. Slap mah fro! Come t' think uh, dat be some damn baaaad doodad: End uh Greenism. 'S coo', bro.
Danks fo' de laughs,.... ahahaha. Sheeeiit... ahahahanson
Re: Re, check it: Is Al Go'e some damn New Religion ?
Re, check it: Is Al Go'e some damn New Religion ? etc...
>
Organization: University of Ediacara / NG talk.origins
Sender: ne...@darwin.ediacara.org
Approved: rob...@ediacara.org say:
> Danks fo' de laughs, Co'ny. Slap mah fro!..
> ahahaha. Sheeeiit... ahahahanson
[hanson]
Hey "moderator"... is that your style of "moderating"?
To show off your own racism and hatred for Blacks...
Just as in fascist states blaming others, like you here
blaming Lion Kuntz & using my hanson-handle to
express the real feelings in your your posts...
You are a splendid example of environmentalism!
Thanks for the laughs!... hahahaha... ahahahanson
Your own "moderator" is blaming Lion Kuntz and is using
my hanson-handle for his posts.... ahaha... As if I care:
Check the headers:
Organization: University of Ediacara
Sender: ne...@darwin.ediacara.org
Approved: rob...@ediacara.org
and your Moderator is letting his virulent racism and hatred
against Blacks show thru... and as bad as that is, even worse
is how truly amazing your shaky (collective) belief as AFA
environmentalism is. If it were strong and sincere and free
of cons and corruption, then you would not get shook up so
easily. Come to think of, that is a good thing: End of Greenism.
Thanks for the laughs,.... ahahaha... ahahahanson
I'm not interested in your sexual perversions.
> Thats a statement you'd have to qualify.
Surely organisms causing harm to the environment is the default: it
would be easier to list human activities that do not harm the
environment. I suppose sleeping quietly in a dark cave might qualify as
not causing harm, since trading oxygen for carbon returns that carbon
to the environment. Eating harms the environment; crapping harms the
environment; pissing harms the environment; using electricity, water,
natural gas, gasoline, propane, rocks, and nearly everything else that
exists harms the environment; nearly everything humans take from the
environment harms it; nearly everything humans put into the environment
harms it.
Walk outside. A mosquito takes a blood meal. Beneficial to the
mosquito. So is that bucket of water you forgot t dump out because
that's where she's going to lay her eggs.
Fail to clean food debris from the kitchen floor and counters.
Beneficial to ants and roaches.
Leave the porch light on all night. Sure it contributes to burning of
fossil fuels and adds CO2 t the atomosphere, but it also draws insects
that spiders, frogs and lizards love to munch upon.
We do lots f detrimental stuff everyday, but you aren't ging to hear
many complaints from that family of rats in your attic.
Of course some of our tag along species are fighting against "the
environment" as our proxies. Cats and dogs attack and kill small native
animals. Feral cats become a nuisance in the wild and kill native birds
and rodents, yet bunny-huggers get pset when harsh population control
measues are pondered. Rats wander around the same areas as native
rodents when on the prowl and might impact them negatively. Invasive
animal and plant species rde piggyback on our ships or attract our
attention to them in pet stores or plant nurseries and as a consequence
get released into "the environment" and wreak havoc. Brazilian pepper
trees take in CO2 just like any other plant and probably help reduce
global CO2 content of the atomosphere, but they are anuisance in places
where they are non-native. Marine toads didn't do what they were
intended to do in Oz and now lok at them.
Even more spelling, diction and punctuation errors than usual. Were you
typing with one hand this time? Isn't it time for you to drop your
trousers, bend over and liberally apply the Vaseline like the good
little corporate whore that you are?
> Co'ny, be some damn bit sma'ta' an' give it some damn rest. You's gots responded
> t' an' cranked yourself ova' one uh 3 posts dat came fum yo'
> own t.o. moderato', who criminally used mah' hanson handle t'
You pathetic git. Since this is a moderated group, all posts are mailed
to the moderator (really, the moderator's machine). They're screened
for compliance with the crossposting rules and any bans in effect, and
then put out on the net. Every single post has those headers, you
idiot. The last thing you are is special.
Chris
My dear ahahahasshole.
Multiple posting of drivel doesn't make one bit of difference, at the
end of the day it's still drivel. Now off with you and find some
pollutocrat to kneel before. Or, if you prefer, to turn around and bend
over before. Your choice.
"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the