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hanson

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Nov 3, 2005, 11:14:13 PM11/3/05
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Ladies and Gentlemen:
"Awe Shit", the castrati, aka Melchizedek who "Milkshisdick"
while he's going to sing his green Hydrogen aria for you in high
pitch as he hydrogenates full bore and with open throttle against
Fred Kasner "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com> who wrote in
news:hPwaf.23803$6e1....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
after "Awe Shit" aka Melchizedek posted in here as
> James Rapier @UselessBastard.net who wrote as:
>>>Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com but really is:
Melchizedek who "Milkshisdick" again in his usual green foment
and does an excellent job making his environmentalists look
stupid... and helping class 2 enviro-cons siphoning money out
of the public trough, while he, Melchizedek remains poor and just
continues to "Milkshisdick" as he strokes himself cajoling.... :
>
["Awe Shit"]
> People electrolyze water with electricty. FACT.
>
[hanson]
::::: Bravo!... louder!, "Awe Shit", louder. Nobody knows that!
>
["Awe Shit"]
> H2O doesn't care where the electricity comes from but
> it prefers DC for electrolysis. FACT.
>
[hanson]
::::: Yeah, yeah! "Awe Shit" louder, AC/DC! & them preferences...

>
["Awe Shit"]
> PV provided DC electricity naturally without conversion losses to
> electrolyze water. FACT.
>
[hanson]
::::: ...naturally, "Awe Shit"... naturally.... CACT, cack, gack....
>
["Awe Shit"]
> H2 produces no hurricane-spawning, global warming, carbon gases. FACT.
> PV produces enough energy to power furnaces to produce more PV. FACT.
>
[hanson]
::::: ... so much, actually, until it spawns hurricanes, naturally, a CACT FACT.

>
["Awe Shit"]
> PV-H2 can be deployed worldwide in ten years to totally replace carbon
> fuels in ever POWER application. FACT.
>
[hanson]
"Awe Shit", your are one of them bad conservative deniers, when in
FACT, you full well know that, if left to their pinko green ways, enviros
would have deployed PV-H2 worldwide ten years AGO to totally
replace carbon fuels in ever POWER application as a CACT FACT...
with the ONLY real FACT remaining that all what the greenies did was
to advocate, promote, support, legalize, institute and extort the permit
charges, the user fees, the enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax,
all reflected in HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!

ahahaha... ahahahanson

hanson

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Nov 5, 2005, 1:37:40 PM11/5/05
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Fred Kasner: "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com> wrote in message
news:jR5bf.9130$BZ5....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... to

"Awe Shit", the castrati, aka Melchizedek who "Milkshisdick"
while he's masqueraging here as "Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com"
>
[Awe Shit]
>> MORON. PV puts out sufficient volts and sufficient cuttent. Ohm's law: volts
>> times amps (current) equals watts. PV is commonly referred to as watts output not
>> as volts times current.
>>
>> you are deliberately acting stupid to hinder a discussion which does not need you
>> and does not want you. You hate PV and you hate HYDROGEN, so buzz off. People
>> electrolyze water with electricty. FACT.... here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/3a11d1bf6c6c0077
>
>
[Fred to "Awe Shit"]
> Hey, SUPERMORON, Ohm's law is not what you claim it is. Ohm's Law is I=V/R where I
> is current, V is potential difference, and R is resistance. It is applicable only
> when R can be assumed to be constant in an electric circuit. Thus making it of
> limited usefulness.
>
> Facts are OK if you don't care about the laws of thermodynamics. Fact then is that
> electrolysis is a superbly stupid process for making H2 for purposes of almost any
> large scale use.
>
> [**1**] All your other facts have the same validity as the facts that the
> intelligence community used to sucker us into the second Gulf War. [1]
>
> Where does all that energy come from to make hydrogen. And where does all that
> energy come from to make PV equipment. And what does it cost to produce one KWh of
> electricity by PV? Those facts are soemthing that you find inconvenient and so
> ignore.
>
> You, "Awe Shit" are truly stupid.
>
> FK
>
[hanson]
ahahaha ..... You are right, Fred, but these fanatical greenies like
"Awe Shit" do mean well and they actually do believe that Gaia will
bend natural laws to their benefit... because they have been
brainwashed by the green bible that told them to proselytize that:
>
= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true ... -- Paul Watson, Greenpeace, and ......
= "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
= accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
= "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
= mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
= -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
= a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
>
Fred, go once to any of those govt sponsored meetings about
GW related issues. You won't see any class 3 enviros there
like those little green idiots who do infest these NGs, but
you'll meet hordes of class 2 enviros, the sharpies, who are
there with their enviro projects applications to get grant money.
You'll see enviro proposals that are so hare-brained that they
make "Awe Shit" look like Einstein by comparison.
To end this green curse and do something good, there's only
one remedy. Cut off any and all funding for environmentalism!
"Awe Shit" et. al. are harmless but provide superb entertainment
along the spirit of the bumper sticker that says:
"Hire the handicapped. They are fun to watch" .....ahahahaha..
Take care Fred,
ahaha... ahahahanson
>
PS:
Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications:
========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green shit(s):
...are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,

institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
.. are the unpaid, well-meaning ones who think they do
something for the "environment", when in fact they are only
the enablers and facilitators for (2) who are harvesting the
green $$$ that (1) has extorted.
>
PS2:
[**1**] Fred, perhaps your comparison is not quite applicable [1].
See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/8d3c1fce8ed9b816

fkasner

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Nov 5, 2005, 6:14:57 PM11/5/05
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Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. Rather I am one time
EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
the blindness of the enviros. If they really want to do some good they
ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
more efficient use of energy agencies. Also we sure could use more
nuclear power stations.
FK

Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 6:59:04 PM11/5/05
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fkasner wrote:
> hanson wrote:

> Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. Rather I am one time
> EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
> the blindness of the enviros. If they really want to do some good they
> ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
> concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
> dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
> more efficient use of energy agencies. Also we sure could use more
> nuclear power stations.
> FK

You have issued your terrorist demands:
Unless people only discuss what you dictate on your terms you will
perpetually harrass them and interfere with their constitional right to
assemble and have free speech.
]
You have shown identical behavior patterns as the ATTACK JACKAL HANSON,
whose terrorist demands include ceasing all protections of the
environment or be perpetually stalked by himslf and harrassed.

Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 6:59:48 PM11/5/05
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fkasner wrote:
> hanson wrote:

> Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. Rather I am one time
> EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
> the blindness of the enviros. If they really want to do some good they
> ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
> concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
> dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
> more efficient use of energy agencies. Also we sure could use more
> nuclear power stations.
> FK

You have issued your terrorist demands:
Unless people only discuss what you dictate, on your terms, you will


perpetually harrass them and interfere with their constitional right to
assemble and have free speech.
]
You have shown identical behavior patterns as the ATTACK JACKAL HANSON,
whose terrorist demands include ceasing all protections of the

environment or be perpetually stalked by himself and harrassed.

Bill Ward

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Nov 5, 2005, 7:03:10 PM11/5/05
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:14:57 GMT, fkasner
<fka...@enteract.com> wrote:

<snip>


>
>Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. Rather I am one time
>EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
>the blindness of the enviros. If they really want to do some good they
>ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
>concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
>dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
>more efficient use of energy agencies. Also we sure could use more
>nuclear power stations.
>FK

I'm with you, Fred.

Bill

Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 7:10:09 PM11/5/05
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The TERRORISTS HAVE MADE THEIR NON-NEGOTIABLE DEMANDS:

"Stop exercising your constitutional rights to assmeble and conduct
free speech, ow WE (Hanson, Kasner, Ward) will endless harrass you".

Since I know I am dealing with a pack of jackels who take things out of
context and deny they even said a thing by next message I post 6
prophylactic messages in the following order, all in close proximity so
that when you received one you received the next before you could post
to reply to the first. For technical reasons, and courtesy about
overlong posts, all six were not combined into one.

1 = Things to know about Power Grids before embarassing yourself #1
http://tinyurl.com/acy5d (google archive message)

2 = Things to Know About Power Generation Before You Embarrass Yourself
#2
http://tinyurl.com/dmevp (google archive message)

3 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3a
http://tinyurl.com/aknxk (google archive message)

4 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3b (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/76ksc (google archive message)

5 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3c (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/a9ouw (google archive message)

6 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3d (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/ahylo (google archive message)

Mark Thorson

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Nov 5, 2005, 7:53:31 PM11/5/05
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Fred, even though we've disagreed on things in the past,
I consider you to be one of the real gems around here,
and I'd really hate to see you get fed up with the trolls
and quit sci.chem. Ignore them if you can, respond if
you must, but please keep in mind you have a large audience
who appreciates you, even if many or most of them never
post.

Bill Ward

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Nov 5, 2005, 8:07:08 PM11/5/05
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On 5 Nov 2005 16:10:09 -0800, "Fried Fred fkasner
@fuckoff.com" <fka...@fuckoff.com> wrote:

<snip links>

But Sparky, you have to actually _read_and_understand_ them
before they will do you any good. In your panicked
condition, you have clearly just skimmed through them,
searching for some snippet, anything to save your sorry
butt. The problem is that you still don't understand
diddly-squat about the power grid, and are trying to cover
that up instead of educating yourself. By now you know, or
should know that you were wrong on every point.

The frequency issue you seized on is no good. Dan didn't
say there was a _big_ deltaf, just that it was one way of
looking at adding power to the system. The rest of us
understood it, the (your) cites confirm it, and you're still
yammering along like you had a clue, talking about wildly
abnormal conditions like 2Hz beat frequencies.

You have already supplied enough entertainment for now. Why
don't you relax, read and understand the references, and get
back to us when you comprehend enough to be taken seriously.


BTW, I hate to mention it, but you are a failure even as a
troll. A troll is supposed to stir up debate in a NG, then
settle back and watch the fur fly. So far it's all your
fur.

You are apparently confusing spamming with trolling, as
counting your multiple personalities you seem to have posted
far more than anyone else, including numerous nearly
identical articles. Some ISPs may take a dim view of that.

Don Lancaster

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Nov 5, 2005, 8:12:44 PM11/5/05
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Bill Ward wrote:
> The problem is that you still don't understand
> diddly-squat about the power grid, and are trying to cover
> that up instead of educating yourself. By now you know, or
> should know that you were wrong on every point.
>

What is real scary about all this is that he should have gotten at least
half of the stuff right, yet he was not even wrong on EVERY point.

Sort of like a student getting a zero on a twenty question true-false test.

Possibly a bot.


--
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Sun Myung Moon @ThePopeShinesMyShoes.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 8:17:02 PM11/5/05
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Bill Ward wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2005 16:10:09 -0800, "Fried Fred fkasner
> @fuckoff.com" <fka...@fuckoff.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Bill Ward wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:14:57 GMT, fkasner
> >> <fka...@enteract.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> >
> >> >Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. Rather I am one time
> >> >EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
> >> >the blindness of the enviros. If they really want to do some good they
> >> >ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
> >> >concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
> >> >dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
> >> >more efficient use of energy agencies. Also we sure could use more
> >> >nuclear power stations.
> >> >FK
> >>
> >> I'm with you, Fred.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >
> >The TERRORISTS HAVE MADE THEIR NON-NEGOTIABLE DEMANDS:
> >
> >"Stop exercising your constitutional rights to assemble and conduct
> >free speech, or WE (Hanson, Kasner, Ward) will endless harrass you".

> >
> >Since I know I am dealing with a pack of jackels who take things out of
> >context and deny they even said a thing by next message I post 6
> >prophylactic messages in the following order, all in close proximity so
> >that when you received one you received the next before you could post
> >to reply to the first. For technical reasons, and courtesy about
> >overlong posts, all six were not combined into one.
> >
> <snip links>
>
> But Sparky, you have to actually _read_and_understand_ them
> before they will do you any good. In your panicked
> condition, you have clearly just skimmed through them,
> searching for some snippet, anything to save your sorry
> butt. The problem is that you still don't understand
> diddly-squat about the power grid, and are trying to cover
> that up instead of educating yourself. By now you know, or
> should know that you were wrong on every point.

OHHH look at all the Ad Hom "points" I win by the slurs and harrassment
from ATTACK JACKAL Bill Ward.


> The frequency issue you seized on is no good. Dan didn't
> say there was a _big_ deltaf, just that it was one way of
> looking at adding power to the system. The rest of us
> understood it, the (your) cites confirm it, and you're still
> yammering along like you had a clue, talking about wildly
> abnormal conditions like 2Hz beat frequencies.

OHHH look at more Ad Hom "points" I win by the slurs and harrassment
from ATTACK JACKAL Bill Ward.

> You have already supplied enough entertainment for now. Why
> don't you relax, read and understand the references, and get
> back to us when you comprehend enough to be taken seriously.

OHHH look at more Ad Hom "points" I win by the slurs and harrassment
from ATTACK JACKAL Bill Ward.

> BTW, I hate to mention it, but you are a failure even as a
> troll. A troll is supposed to stir up debate in a NG, then
> settle back and watch the fur fly. So far it's all your
> fur.

67 messages were posted in the thread. Obviously some people were
spring-loaded looking for a change to get the fur flying.

The ATTACK JACKEL TROLLS actually never discussed the subject matter of
the thread leading message -- just attempted to HARRASS the poster with
multiple attacks without credible contributions.


> You are apparently confusing spamming with trolling, as
> counting your multiple personalities you seem to have posted
> far more than anyone else, including numerous nearly
> identical articles. Some ISPs may take a dim view of that.

I have the right to exercise my freedom of speech. Those of you who
don't like it can go back to the Soviet Union or North Korea where you
came from.

Sun Myung Moon @ThePopeShinesMyShoes.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 8:19:37 PM11/5/05
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Don Lancaster wrote:
> Bill Ward wrote:
> > The problem is that you still don't understand
> > diddly-squat about the power grid, and are trying to cover
> > that up instead of educating yourself. By now you know, or
> > should know that you were wrong on every point.
> >
>
> What is real scary about all this is that he should have gotten at least
> half of the stuff right, yet he was not even wrong on EVERY point.

Thanks for admitting I was not even wrong on EVERY POINT.

hanson

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Nov 5, 2005, 9:45:56 PM11/5/05
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Fred Kasner: "fkasner" <fka...@enteract.com> wrote in message
news:R1bbf.9918$7h7....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... &
in news:jR5bf.9130$BZ5....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...

to "Awe Shit", the castrati, aka Melchizedek who "Milkshisdick"
while he's masqueraging here as "Fried Fred fkasner @fuckoff.com"
>>
["Awe Shit" to Fred]

MORON. PV puts out sufficient volts and sufficient cuttent.
Ohm's law: volts times amps (current) equals watts. PV is commonly
referred to as watts output not as volts times current. You are

deliberately acting stupid to hinder a discussion which does
not need you and does not want you. You hate PV and you hate
HYDROGEN, so buzz off. People electrolyze water with electricty.
FACT.... here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.energy/msg/3a11d1bf6c6c0077
>>
[Fred to "Awe Shit"]
Hey, SUPERMORON, Ohm's law is not what you claim it is.
Ohm's Law is I=V/R where I is current, V is potential difference,
and R is resistance. It is applicable only when R can be assumed
to be constant in an electric circuit. Thus making it of limited usefulness.
>>>
Facts are OK if you don't care about the laws of thermodynamics.
Fact then is that electrolysis is a superbly stupid process for making
H2 for purposes of almost any large scale use.
>>>
[**A**] All your other facts have the same validity as the facts that the
intelligence community used to sucker us into the second Gulf War. [A]

>>>
Where does all that energy come from to make hydrogen. And where
does all that energy come from to make PV equipment. And what does
it cost to produce one KWh of electricity by PV? Those facts are
soemthing that you find inconvenient and so ignore.
>>>
You, "Awe Shit" are truly stupid.
FK
>>>
[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/8560fa59b169a3d5

ahahaha ..... You are right, Fred, but these fanatical greenies like
"Awe Shit" do mean well and they actually do believe that Gaia will
bend natural laws to their benefit... because they have been
brainwashed by the green bible that told them to proselytize that:
>>
"It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true ... -- Paul Watson, Greenpeace, and ......
= "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
= accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
= "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
= mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
= -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
= a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
>>
Fred, go once to any of those govt sponsored meetings about
GW related issues. You won't see any class 3 enviros there
like those little green idiots who do infest these NGs, but
you'll meet hordes of class 2 enviros, the sharpies, who are
there with their enviro projects applications to get grant money.
You'll see enviro proposals that are so hare-brained that they
make "Awe Shit" look like Einstein by comparison.
To end this green curse and do something good, there's only
one remedy. Cut off any and all funding for environmentalism! [C]

"Awe Shit" et. al. are harmless but provide superb entertainment
along the spirit of the bumper sticker that says:
"Hire the handicapped. They are fun to watch" .....ahahahaha..
Take care Fred,
ahaha... ahahahanson
>>
PS:
Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications:
========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green shit(s):
...are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,
institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
.. are the unpaid, well-meaning ones who think they do
something for the "environment", when in fact they are only
the enablers and facilitators for (2) who are harvesting the
green $$$ that (1) has extorted.
>>
PS2:
your re: that intelligence community suckered us into the Gulf War II.
[**A1**] Fred, perhaps your comparison is not quite applicable [A].
See here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/8d3c1fce8ed9b816
>>
>
[Fred]
Not that I am your comrade in arms vs the enviros. [B] Rather I am one time

EE student and then a physical chemist who is disturbed by the cant and
the blindness of the enviros. [C-] If they really want to do some good they

ought to dump the global warming thing as merely possible or a
concommitant variation related to greater agencies (such as interstellar
dust clouds) that we can't really control and focus on conservation and
more efficient use of energy agencies. [-C] Also we sure could use more
nuclear power stations.
[Fred elsewhere]: Hanson attempts, pathetically, to villify all save himself. [D]
> FK
>
[hanson to Fred]
[B] You don't have to get the feeling that you need to become my
comrade... hahahaAHAHA... Don't worry, Fred, hanson travels alone.
But when I see a convenient vehicle to underline my point, I make
use of that. Shamelessly. So, thanks for having been of help, Fred.
[C] Fred, you have not come to grips yet with the fact that enviros
will never do "something good". Their game is curt and simple:
$$$ Greenbacks. That's all. They give a rat's ass about the earth.
If they would then THEY'd put THEIR money where their mouth is.
Instead, the GREENS WANT YOUR MONEY to feed their mouths...
[D].... ahahaha.... now, Fred where did I vilify you and why, for crying
out loud, why would I wanna I vilify myself?.... AHAHAHAHA... Fred,
cough it up: Are you are closet greenie after all? ..... THAT would
be really pathetic, Fred... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs, Fred....
ahahaha... ahaha... ahahanson

PS: Hey, "Awe Shit"!... I didn't mean to crank you to the point
where you see now a "pack of jackals" all around you... ahahaha..
It is your own green paranoia that makes you feel like "everybody
is out to suppress your free speech"... ahahaha... How many times
do I have to tell you that you are hilariously funny and doing a fine
& excellent job at/of making environmentalis/m/ts look really stupid.
Again thanks for the fun, "Awe Shit"... I'll be around.... ahahaha
ahaha... ahahanson

Science Cop

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:01:23 PM11/5/05
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hanson wrote:

> Where does all that energy come from to make hydrogen. And where
> does all that energy come from to make PV equipment. And what does
> it cost to produce one KWh of electricity by PV? Those facts are
> soemthing that you find inconvenient and so ignore.

They come from "Intelligent Design"?

hhc...@yahoo.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:19:00 PM11/5/05
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"> What is real scary about all this is that he should have gotten at
least
> half of the stuff right, yet he was not even wrong on EVERY point.

Thanks for admitting I was not even wrong on EVERY POINT."

Sorry, but.... Are you really this incredibly stupid? ROFLOL!

Harry C.

Prick Bombo @ProfessionalPrick.com

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:29:47 PM11/5/05
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hanson

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:36:58 PM11/5/05
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** "Awe Shit" ** is posting under many guises & handles like:
Melch...@USA.com> aka "Milkshisdick" & this time he did it as
scien...@sbcglobal.net aka
RayLo...@evilfucker.com aka
GayLo...@sbcglobal.net aka
david.g...@sbcglobal.net aka
hahah...@sbcglobal.net aka
Hanson @Shittyplanet.com aka
han...@shittyplanet.com aka
Hanson @crack-whore.net aka
Pslam 110 gods...@sbcglobal.net aka
ist...@sbcglobal.net aka
Global...@ARMY.com aka
Global_...@Peacemail.com aka
Prick Bombo @ProfessionalPrick.com aka
bush_au...@sbcglobal.net aka "Awe Shit".
all these and more are the one and same poster: "Awe Shit",
a true and sad embarrassment for the Jewish community.
>
["Awe Shit"]
"Science Cop" <scien...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1131246083.5...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... "Awe Shit", hanson wrote no such thing...
That is YOUR own "Intelligent Design", "Awe Shit"... ahaha...
>
But good Job! Good covert work, "Awe Shit".
Now, Awe Shit", listen up.
You have successfully demonstrated again, once more, how
stupid, fanatical and how paranoid environmentalists can be.
Just like the little green idiots that they really are. Do keep up the
good work in your cyber appearances here, "Awe Shit".
>
Remember, that the enviros are playing the same game like
the Taliban, Al Qaida and the Zionists do, all of them using the
same great lies of yore. ---- Only the color has changed.
= (A) Environmentalism is Communism in Green...
= (B) Environmentalism is Nazism in Green...
= (C) Environmentalism makes the Poor poorer and the Rich richer.
>
"Awe Shit" remember also the modern, attributal definitions of

enviro classifications:
========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green shit(s):
...are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,
institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
>
Thanks for the laughs, "Awe Shit"... ahahahaha....
ahahaha... ahahanson

PS1:
"Awe Shit" is a new green turn-coat, now an agent provocateur, a
stooge & shill in the pay of Big Oil and other Anti-environmental fat
cats to make environmetalis/m/ts look bad, stupid and irrelevant.
"Awe Shit" has taken brilliantly advantage of the classical fact that
Environmentalism is nothing but green pornography,
pimped by green orgs like NRDC, Sierra club, etc.,
whored and hookered by green bureaucrats from EPA down,
johned, pole- and lapdanced by the hordes of little green idiots
and paid for by extorting the money from hardworking taxpayers.
>
PS2:
"Awe Shit" was there something in particular that cranked you
in here which made you retort with YOUR "Intelligent Design?:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/9a172e15efc16b83


Prick Bombo @ProfessionalPrick.com

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donsto...@hotmail.com

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Tempest in a Teacup.

hanson

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:52:34 PM11/5/05
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Bravo,"Awe Shit"!, bravo!... you swallow real fast now
How does the hook in your mouth feel?.... ahahaha...
"Awe Shit", was there something in particular that cranked you

in here which made you retort with YOUR "Intelligent Design?:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/1f181b0480fdf3c0
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/9a172e15efc16b83
or did I twist the hook deeper into your throat right now?.....
I surely did not mean to do that, "Awe Shit". I am just trying to
help in your work to make the greenies look sick and stupid.
Carry on, "Awe Shit", I'll be at your side... Don't worry....
Smile "Awe Shit"!, smile.... ahahahaha.... ahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
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["Awe Shit" aka "Prick Bombo @ProfessionalPrick.com" ]
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> hanson wrote in:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/1f181b0480fdf3c0?hl=en&

Fred Kasner

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Thanks for the kind words. Occasional bad health limits the time I can
spend on this NG. It seems most days that I spend time on the copmuter
updating malware programs and files on my Windows box. This is why I
have done more of my time using a Linux box. I can usually safely ignore
the malware attached to stuff I find I have downloaded.

There are a cadre of us of whom only Don Lancaster is mostly active.
Bless him. We have been able to beat back the "free" energy guys and the
water as a fuel guys with some considerable expenditure of energy. But
the thing that they mostly showed in the past was only occasional fury
and outbursts of personal invective. The present crew seems to be unable
to argue ratinally without invective and dishonesty of the highest
order. I am sure, Mark, that free interchange without the harshness is
something that although now in short supply in NGs will eventually
prevail as the ssupporters of "blue sky" schemes slowly come to realize
that they have been unable to produce something for the market and are
unable to entice any more innocents into their camp.
Best wishes.
Fred

Fred Kasner

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hanson wrote:
...snip ...

>
> [hanson to Fred]
> [B] You don't have to get the feeling that you need to become my
> comrade... hahahaAHAHA... Don't worry, Fred, hanson travels alone.
> But when I see a convenient vehicle to underline my point, I make
> use of that. Shamelessly. So, thanks for having been of help, Fred.
> [C] Fred, you have not come to grips yet with the fact that enviros
> will never do "something good". Their game is curt and simple:
> $$$ Greenbacks. That's all. They give a rat's ass about the earth.
> If they would then THEY'd put THEIR money where their mouth is.
> Instead, the GREENS WANT YOUR MONEY to feed their mouths...
> [D].... ahahaha.... now, Fred where did I vilify you and why, for crying
> out loud, why would I wanna I vilify myself?.... AHAHAHAHA... Fred,
> cough it up: Are you are closet greenie after all? ..... THAT would
> be really pathetic, Fred... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs, Fred....
> ahahaha... ahaha... ahahanson
>
> PS: Hey, "Awe Shit"!... I didn't mean to crank you to the point
> where you see now a "pack of jackals" all around you... ahahaha..
> It is your own green paranoia that makes you feel like "everybody
> is out to suppress your free speech"... ahahaha... How many times
> do I have to tell you that you are hilariously funny and doing a fine
> & excellent job at/of making environmentalis/m/ts look really stupid.
> Again thanks for the fun, "Awe Shit"... I'll be around.... ahahaha
> ahaha... ahahanson
>
>
>

Actually, I never have given as cent to the enviro causes. Why? Because
I know that lots of their most prestigious spokespersons are inherently
dishonest. When privately challenged, they admit that they tell lies and
distort facts. They justify this as being for the greater good of
environmentalism. Also, save conservation of resources and more use of
nuclear energy, the ability to combat production of greenhouse gases is
a snare and a delusion. Plant life decay, water evaporation, and
cleaaring of plant covered land are about the only things we can control
to even a small extent. The problme is the Earth's population. Large
numbers need large amounts of fuels. The possible cosmic factors have
been there for a long time (e.g,, alternating periods of glaciation and
tropical heat independent of anything man can do) and variations of
orbital factors and interstellar dust are more likely culprits than
bipedal creature activity.
FK

Fred Kasner

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I'll go along with that. The intelligent designer is clearly the author
of global warming.
FK

Bill Ward

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On 5 Nov 2005 17:17:02 -0800, "Whiny...@poorbaby.nut"
<WhinyTroll@poorbaby,nut> wrote:

Poor Sparky, the victimized troll. Why does everyone pick
on his innocent little self? Tell you what, stop the
whining and I'll double your "Ad Hom" points.

Then you can trade them in to buy a clue.


>
>> BTW, I hate to mention it, but you are a failure even as a
>> troll. A troll is supposed to stir up debate in a NG, then
>> settle back and watch the fur fly. So far it's all your
>> fur.
>
>67 messages were posted in the thread. Obviously some people were
>spring-loaded looking for a change to get the fur flying.

Some of us are just ticked off that you would try to mislead
readers in a sci. NG with your paranoid rant.


>
>The ATTACK JACKEL TROLLS actually never discussed the subject matter of
>the thread leading message -- just attempted to HARRASS the poster with
>multiple attacks without credible contributions.

Ah, yes. Correcting your obvious factual errors is
definitely unfair harassment. Take a few more "ad hom"
points.


>
>> You are apparently confusing spamming with trolling, as
>> counting your multiple personalities you seem to have posted
>> far more than anyone else, including numerous nearly
>> identical articles. Some ISPs may take a dim view of that.
>
>I have the right to exercise my freedom of speech.

And we don't? Guess again, Sparky.

Bill Ward (An evil Attack Jackal)

Prick Bombo @ProfessionalPrick.com

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Nov 6, 2005, 3:31:28 PM11/6/05
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And the misleading at the top of the thread that caused 67 messages
(mostly off thread) was misleading in what point or points?

Here's the messages I posted that have to do with accurate perceptions
of what's happening with Power, Transmission, and Grid.

1 = Things to know about Power Grids before embarassing yourself #1
http://tinyurl.com/acy5d (google archive message)

2 = Things to Know About Power Generation Before You Embarrass Yourself
#2
http://tinyurl.com/dmevp (google archive message)

3 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3a
http://tinyurl.com/aknxk (google archive message)

4 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3b (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/76ksc (google archive message)

5 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3c (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/a9ouw (google archive message)

6 = Things to Know About Power Transmission Before Embarrassing
Yourself #3d (You know who you are.)
http://tinyurl.com/ahylo (google archive message)

Point out the misleading things. Take your time.

> >The ATTACK JACKEL TROLLS actually never discussed the subject matter of
> >the thread leading message -- just attempted to HARRASS the poster with
> >multiple attacks without credible contributions.
>
> Ah, yes. Correcting your obvious factual errors is
> definitely unfair harassment. Take a few more "ad hom"
> points.

The average attack Jackal message does not correct factual errors. It
sends ad hominum attacks to discredit the messenger so that the message
doesn't have to be addressed.

I have gotten an idea from this exercise who is charter members of the
attack pack.


>
> Bill Ward (An evil Attack Jackal)

Glad you can be upfront on your behavior for a change and admit it.

Here's my statement, my points, and I'm sticking with them...

Tim Ward

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"Bill Ward" <bward...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:436e46bd.1096974@localhost...
<snip everything>.

>
> Bill Ward (An evil Attack Jackal)

Ha! You didn't even get that right! You're an evil Attack Jackel! Can't you
even spell wrong?

Tim Ward


Bill Ward

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On 6 Nov 2005 12:31:28 -0800, "Prick Bombo
@ProfessionalPrick.com" <Prick...@ProfessionalPrick.com>
wrote:

My first post in that thread contained the following:
(you were posting under a different alias)

<begin repost excerpt>
==============
On 2 Nov 2005 18:12:12 -0800, "H2-PV"
<H2...@whythefucknot.com> wrote:

<snip>

[you wrote]
>If a power plant is currently producing 100MWs but demand has fallen to
>90MWs at the instant, what is the value of the 10 surplus MWs? Unless
>it is stored it evaporates -- poof -- into nothingness, not even a
>shadow left behind.

[I responded]
That is not correct. Until you understand why, you have
zero credibility.

<snip>
==============
<end repost excerpt>

It was misleading because it is wrong, and you refused to
retract it. Ignorance was no longer an excuse.


>Here's the messages I posted that have to do with accurate perceptions
>of what's happening with Power, Transmission, and Grid.
>

<snip redundant links>


>
>Point out the misleading things. Take your time.


I have no issue with the links. It's what _you_ are posting
that is wrong and misleading. You do not know enough to
even understand what you have cut and pasted.

>
>> >The ATTACK JACKEL TROLLS actually never discussed the subject matter of
>> >the thread leading message -- just attempted to HARRASS the poster with
>> >multiple attacks without credible contributions.
>>
>> Ah, yes. Correcting your obvious factual errors is
>> definitely unfair harassment. Take a few more "ad hom"
>> points.
>
>The average attack Jackal message does not correct factual errors. It
>sends ad hominum attacks to discredit the messenger so that the message
>doesn't have to be addressed.
>
>I have gotten an idea from this exercise who is charter members of the
>attack pack.
>
>
>>
>> Bill Ward (An evil Attack Jackal)
>
>Glad you can be upfront on your behavior for a change and admit it.
>
>Here's my statement, my points, and I'm sticking with them...
>

<snip redundant links>

They are not your statements, they are not your points, and
they do not support your points.

What you are stuck with is that you have made an everlasting
ass of yourself on an archived newsgroup.

Congratulations on your new career. Maybe it will better fit
your abilities and behavior.

Bill Ward (off to pounce on the next hapless victim)


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