RSS Coach Sacking Competition 2023-2024

[Futbolmetrix]

New and improved rules this year!

You have 10 points which you can allocate to as many coaches as you want from the English Premier League, Italian Serie A, German Bundesliga, Spanish Liga, and French Ligue 1.

Maximum 3 points per coach, decimal points allowed.

Any coach that you nominated and gets sacked (or resigns, voluntarily or not) before December 31, you get the points, BUT there is a twist!

- A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Champions League group stage: your points are multiplied by 3

- A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Europa League or Conference League group stage: your points are multiplied by 2

- Any other team: your points are multiplied by 1

Deadline: Friday September 15.

[MH]

I like it !

I see De Zakarian, who got me more points last year than my other picks,
is back coaching in France again.

>
>
>

[Blueshirt]

José Luis Mendilibar (Sevilla)
Zvonimir Soldo (Cologne)
Sean Dyche (Everton)
Paul Heckingbottom (Sheffield Utd)

[Real Mardin]

Jose Luis Mendilibar (Sevilla) 3pts

Steve Cooper (Nottingham Forest) 2 pts

Franck Haise (Lens) 2

Eddie Howe (Newcastle) 3


RM

[Blueshirt]

Forgot to allocate my points:

3 - José Luis Mendilibar (Sevilla)
3 - Zvonimir Soldo (Cologne)
2 - Sean Dyche (Everton)
2 - Paul Heckingbottom (Sheffield Utd)


[Thanks RM for reminding me!]

[Al Kamista]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:17:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> New and improved rules this year!
>
> You have 10 points which you can allocate to as many coaches as you want from the English Premier League, Italian Serie A, German Bundesliga, Spanish Liga, and French Ligue 1.
>
> Maximum 3 points per coach, decimal points allowed.
>
> Any coach that you nominated and gets sacked (or resigns, voluntarily or not) before December 31, you get the points, BUT there is a twist!
>
> - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Champions League group stage: your points are multiplied by 3

That's clever, I like it.

>
> Deadline: Friday September 15.

Dyche (Everton) 3
Terzic (Dortmund) 2
Edwards (Luton) 2
O'Neill (Wolves) 1.5
Mendilibar (Sevilla) 1
Kompany (Burnley) 0.5

[MH]

On 2023-09-01 16:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:

OK, here goed

A lot of french teams fired coaches last year. But which ones to pick ?

Laurent Blanc 0.5
Pierre Aristouy 1.0
Franck Haise 1.0

Bundesliga

Bo Svensson 1.0
Pelegrino Materazzo (why not, he got me points before) 1.0
Torsten Lieberknecht 0.5

Spain

Vicente Moreno 1.0
Garcia Pimienta 1.0


England

Sean Dyche 1.5
Andoni Iraola 1.0
Mauricio Pochettino 0.5

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:17:10 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> New and improved rules this year!
>
> You have 10 points which you can allocate to as many coaches as you want from the English Premier League, Italian Serie A, German Bundesliga, Spanish Liga,
> and French Ligue 1.

I really don't want to go full Mark here, but Ligue 1 has currently fallen out of the Top 5 in the UEFA ranking, and it might well stay that way
until the end of the season which would mean that the extra spot in the re-vamped Champions League that the French lobbied so hard for
will go to the Netherlands instead.

> Maximum 3 points per coach, decimal points allowed.
>
> Any coach that you nominated and gets sacked (or resigns, voluntarily or not) before December 31, you get the points, BUT there is a twist!
>
> - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Champions League group stage: your points are multiplied by 3
>
> - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Europa League or Conference League group stage: your points are multiplied by 2

If Eredivisie were included Ajax's new manager Maurice Steijn would be my number one candidate.

> - Any other team: your points are multiplied by 1
>
> Deadline: Friday September 15.

This is an additional dilemma in this insidious game - wait until the end of the deadline to gather more information, or risk that the most
obvious picks will have already been sacked?


Ciao,
'I guess I'll wait a bit'
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 6:57:35 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> I really don't want to go full Mark here, but Ligue 1 has currently fallen out of the Top 5 in the UEFA ranking, and it might well
> stay that way until the end of the season which would mean that the extra spot in the re-vamped Champions League that the
> French lobbied so hard for will go to the Netherlands instead.

This is all very interesting, but that's why the rules don't make any reference to "top n" leagues or anything. (whew...)

> > - Any other team: your points are multiplied by 1
> >
> > Deadline: Friday September 15.
> This is an additional dilemma in this insidious game - wait until the end of the deadline to gather more information, or risk
> that the most obvious picks will have already been sacked?

I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.

Laurent Blanc thanks me for the weaufxing:

https://frenchfootballweekly.com/2023/09/06/laurent-blanc-and-ol-its-over/

Even though it's not officially confirmed ("According to RMC Sport, the Cévénol will leave the Gones bench as soon as a replacement is found"), so I guess one could still pick him, but that wouldn't be very nice.

0.5 points (multiplied by 1) for MH.

[MH]

I posted this earlier in the wrong thread.

So which of the following out of work coaches is going to get hired
first, and by whom ?

Antonio Conte
Christophe Galthier
Julen Lopetegui
Giovanni Van Bronckhorst
Laurent Blanc
Ralph Hasenhüttl
Julian Nagelsman
Frank Lampard
Graham Potter

I am sure the list could be added to.

I could see Galthier going to Lyon very soon. Speculation I read,
however, included Bruno Lage, and Graham Potter. Both have said "no
thanks" apparently

[Futbolmetrix]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:16:51 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>
> So which of the following out of work coaches is going to get hired
> first, and by whom ?
>
> Antonio Conte

I think he has developed a reputation of being too toxic, can't get along with anybody for more than a few months. Also very expensive. I think he's headed to the $audi league.


> Christophe Galthier
> Julen Lopetegui

Rumored to be in contention for the Lyon job.


> Giovanni Van Bronckhorst
Don't know.

> Laurent Blanc
Can't see him get back in action very soon.


> Ralph Hasenhüttl
> Julian Nagelsman

These are probably the first two that will get a good job offer, not clear though what will be available.

> Frank Lampard
Fallen from grace. I don't see him getting a PL job any time soon.


> Graham Potter
Maybe the first struggling bottom-half PL side that needs a shake-up.

[Werner Pichler]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 6:16:51 AM UTC+2, MH wrote:
> On 2023-09-07 03:05, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> >> I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.
> >
> > Laurent Blanc thanks me for the weaufxing:
> >
> > https://frenchfootballweekly.com/2023/09/06/laurent-blanc-and-ol-its-over/
> >
> > Even though it's not officially confirmed ("According to RMC Sport, the Cévénol will leave the Gones bench as soon as a replacement is found"), so I guess one could still pick him, but that wouldn't be very nice.
> >
> > 0.5 points (multiplied by 1) for MH.
> >
> I posted this earlier in the wrong thread.
>
> So which of the following out of work coaches is going to get hired
> first, and by whom ?
>
> Antonio Conte
> Christophe Galthier
> Julen Lopetegui
> Giovanni Van Bronckhorst
> Laurent Blanc
> Ralph Hasenhüttl

Also, Oliver Glasner

> Julian Nagelsman

PSG, eventually

> Frank Lampard

Surely there's a limit to second chances even for him?


Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:17:10 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Luis Enrique (PSG) 2
Pochettino (Chelsea) 2
Terzić (Dortmund) 2
Dyche (Everton) 1
Mendilibar (Sevilla) 1
Mourinho (Roma) 1
Toppmöller (Frankfurt) 1



Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 10:07:39 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
> Blueshirt wrote:
>
> > Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > > New and improved rules this year!
> > >
> > > You have 10 points which you can allocate to as many coaches as you
> > > want from the English Premier League, Italian Serie A, German
> > > Bundesliga, Spanish Liga, and French Ligue 1.
> > >
> > > Maximum 3 points per coach, decimal points allowed.
> > >
> > > Any coach that you nominated and gets sacked (or resigns, voluntarily
> > > or not) before December 31, you get the points, BUT there is a twist!
> > >
> > > - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Champions
> > > League group stage: your points are multiplied by 3
> > >
> > > - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Europa League
> > > or Conference League group stage: your points are multiplied by 2
> > >
> > > - Any other team: your points are multiplied by 1
> > >
> > > Deadline: Friday September 15.
> >
> >
> > José Luis Mendilibar (Sevilla)
> > Zvonimir Soldo (Cologne)

Are you working with 13-year-old data?

Ciao,
Werner

[Blueshirt]

Possibly!

Sevilla were bottom of La Liga when I looked... so that seemed a
reasonable pick.

Cologne were losing matches and near the bottom of the Bundesliga when I
looked... I just got the wrong manager when I searched for it. <face
palm> Clearly DuckDuckGo isn't as effective as Google!

Thanks for informing me before the deadline. Will edit.

[Blueshirt]

Futbolmetrix wrote:

> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 12:16:51 AM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>
> > Graham Potter
>
> Maybe the first struggling bottom-half PL side that needs a shake-up.

Unless it's Chelsea! ;-)

[Blueshirt]

Blueshirt calling... here is the corrected and final entry from the jury
here at Blueshirt HQ.

3 - José Luis Mendilibar (Sevilla)

3 - Sean Dyche (Everton)
2 - Steffen Baumgart (Cologne)

[Werner Pichler]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 2:47:03 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 6:16:51 AM UTC+2, MH wrote:
> > On 2023-09-07 03:05, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.
> > >
> > > Laurent Blanc thanks me for the weaufxing:
> > >
> > > https://frenchfootballweekly.com/2023/09/06/laurent-blanc-and-ol-its-over/
> > >
> > > Even though it's not officially confirmed ("According to RMC Sport, the Cévénol will leave the Gones bench as soon as a replacement is found"), so I guess one could still pick him, but that wouldn't be very nice.
> > >
> > > 0.5 points (multiplied by 1) for MH.
> > >
> > I posted this earlier in the wrong thread.
> >
> > So which of the following out of work coaches is going to get hired
> > first, and by whom ?
> >
> > Antonio Conte
> > Christophe Galthier
> > Julen Lopetegui
> > Giovanni Van Bronckhorst
> > Laurent Blanc
> > Ralph Hasenhüttl
>
> Also, Oliver Glasner
>
> > Julian Nagelsman
>
> PSG, eventually

Or rather German NT?


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:45:36 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Or rather German NT?

Frick gone. Not even the top news item on kicker.de

https://www.kicker.de/deutschland-gegen-serbien-2023-basketball-wm-4843909/spielbericht

(What is the world coming to, Germany World Basketball champs?)

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.

Quique Setien of Villarreal (sacked on the same date I posted the above) also says thank you. No points, as far as I can tell.

Maybe I should have started my research and made picks early.

[Futbolmetrix]

OK, let' go for it. Just a few years ago picking the Cagliari or Genoa coaches would have been a no-brainer, but now they are both under new management, which is not necessarily as trigger happy as the old one. Plus, Ranieri (yes, that Ranieri) has just been named a Cagliari honorary citizen, he has already declared that this will be his last coaching job...will they really have the courage to sack him?

Lyon is apparently considering Gattuso and Lampard as successors to Blanc. Both of those would be strong candidates for the sack, but I'm afraid you have to name a name, so until one of them is officially appointed they can't be in the list. Maybe I'll leave one point as a a placeholder until the deadline?

Here's my list:

Mendilibar (Sevilla) 2.5
Zanetti (Empoli) 2
Sottil (Udinese) 1
Seoane (Gladbach) 1
Terzic (Dortmund) 1
Dyche (Everton) 1
Luis Enrique (PSG) 0.5
(Placeholder: 1 point)

[Futbolmetrix]

I will split my remaining point
Heckingbottom (Sheffield United) 0.5
Mourinho (Roma) 0.5


Reminder that the deadline for submitting entries is today

[Futbolmetrix]

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:17:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Just bumping this:

Deadline: Friday September 15.

[Binder Dundat]

I know I am late, but anyhow,

Ten hag 3
Mourinho 3
Pochetino 3
Bo Svensson 1

[rec.sport.soccer]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:00:19 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Zanetti (Empoli) 2

https://x.com/DiMarzio/status/1704044764155318315?s=20

2 points for me. I'll compile all the predictions nicely in one post later.

[Futbolmetrix]

Nobody had Marcelino (Marseille):
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/marcelino-set-to-leave-marseille-after-just-seven-games/

Would have been a two-pointer

[Werner Pichler]

Maaßen (no points for anyone, he was sacked a year late) and Mendilibar (points for pretty much everyone) gone.

Ciao,
Werner

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 04:18:15 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> Maaßen (no points for anyone, he was sacked a year late)

5 points in 7 games. Poor, but Köln and Mainz has 1 and 2, while Gladbach and Union has 6. All are bigger disappointments. Indicates that Maaßen started the season with less credit.

Replacement is Jess Thorup. His worst point average so far was 1.68 (with KAA Gent). That's going to change now.

[MH]

On 2023-10-15 14:42, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 04:18:15 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> Maaßen (no points for anyone, he was sacked a year late)
>
> 5 points in 7 games. Poor, but Köln and Mainz has 1 and 2, while Gladbach and Union has 6. All are bigger disappointments.

Did Maaßen also not have to play away to Bayern and RBL as well ?
Does seem rather harsh.

[Werner Pichler]

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 6:16:51 AM UTC+2, MH wrote:

> On 2023-09-07 03:05, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> >> I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.
> >
> > Laurent Blanc thanks me for the weaufxing:
> >
> > https://frenchfootballweekly.com/2023/09/06/laurent-blanc-and-ol-its-over/
> >
> > Even though it's not officially confirmed ("According to RMC Sport, the Cévénol will leave the Gones bench as soon as a replacement is found"), so I guess one could still pick him, but that wouldn't be very nice.
> >
> > 0.5 points (multiplied by 1) for MH.
> >
> I posted this earlier in the wrong thread.
>
> So which of the following out of work coaches is going to get hired
> first, and by whom ?
>
> Antonio Conte
> Christophe Galthier

Qatar it is

> Julen Lopetegui
> Giovanni Van Bronckhorst
> Laurent Blanc
> Ralph Hasenhüttl
> Julian Nagelsman
> Frank Lampard
> Graham Potter

Sweden?


Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:02:41 PM UTC+2, MH wrote:
> On 2023-10-15 14:42, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 04:18:15 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >> Maaßen (no points for anyone, he was sacked a year late)
> >
> > 5 points in 7 games. Poor, but Köln and Mainz has 1 and 2, while Gladbach and Union has 6. All are bigger disappointments.
>
> Did Maaßen also not have to play away to Bayern and RBL as well ?
>
> Does seem rather harsh.

He ended last season with one win in the last eleven games. He started this season with one win in seven. Overall, that's not a particularly good look.
Also, Augsburg got eliminated in the Cup by a third division side.


Ciao,
Werner

[Jesper Lauridsen]

Actually DFB has been accused of stealing the basketballer's thunder
by announcing the sacking of Flick. Which makes no sense, but that's
usually the case in such matters.

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On 2023-10-16, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:02:41 PM UTC+2, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-10-15 14:42, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, 11 October 2023 at 04:18:15 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
>> >> Maaßen (no points for anyone, he was sacked a year late)
>> >
>> > 5 points in 7 games. Poor, but Köln and Mainz has 1 and 2, while Gladbach and Union has 6. All are bigger disappointments.
>>
>> Did Maaßen also not have to play away to Bayern and RBL as well ?
>>
>> Does seem rather harsh.
>
> He ended last season with one win in the last eleven games. He started this season with one win in seven. Overall, that's not a particularly good look.

So he would have been an obvious pick for a coack sacking competition?

[Werner Pichler]

With the new point system this year we're eyeing bigger prizes.

Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 6:34:24 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> With the new point system this year we're eyeing bigger prizes.
>

Paulo Sousa (Salernitana) gone, no points for anybody.

Here is a Google Sheet with the predictions and standings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing

Anybody with the link can update the "Coaches sacked" sheet, and the "Standings" sheet should update automatically.

Current standings:
Blueshirt 9
Real Mardin 9
Futbolmetrix 8
Alkamista 3
Werner 3
MH 1.5
Binder 0

[Werner Pichler]

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:57:35 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 12:17:10 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> > New and improved rules this year!
> >
> > You have 10 points which you can allocate to as many coaches as you want from the English Premier League, Italian Serie A, German Bundesliga, Spanish Liga,
> > and French Ligue 1.

> I really don't want to go full Mark here, but Ligue 1 has currently fallen out of the Top 5 in the UEFA ranking, and it might well stay that way
> until the end of the season which would mean that the extra spot in the re-vamped Champions League that the French lobbied so hard for
> will go to the Netherlands instead.

> > Maximum 3 points per coach, decimal points allowed.
> >
> > Any coach that you nominated and gets sacked (or resigns, voluntarily or not) before December 31, you get the points, BUT there is a twist!
> >
> > - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Champions League group stage: your points are multiplied by 3
> >
> > - A coach sacked by a team participating in this year's Europa League or Conference League group stage: your points are multiplied by 2
>

> If Eredivisie were included Ajax's new manager Maurice Steijn would be my number one candidate.

I expected them to be worse than last season. I did not expect this.

Same with Lyon and Basel. Three former heavyweights in actual relegation danger.


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 10:34:48 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 6:34:24 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > With the new point system this year we're eyeing bigger prizes.
> >
> Paulo Sousa (Salernitana) gone, no points for anybody.
>
> Here is a Google Sheet with the predictions and standings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Anybody with the link can update the "Coaches sacked" sheet, and the "Standings" sheet should update automatically.

Sottil sacked last week, one point for me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing

I don't think anybody has Rudi Garcia (Napoli), but he could very well be next

[Futbolmetrix]

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 4:52:23 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> I don't think anybody has Rudi Garcia (Napoli), but he could very well be next

It never fails

[Werner Pichler]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 10:00:19 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 1:22:38 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > I'm also waiting. There won't be any further league matches until the deadline (OK, there will be some Friday matches...), so it's likely that any sackings should have happened already.
> > Quique Setien of Villarreal (sacked on the same date I posted the above) also says thank you. No points, as far as I can tell.
> >
> > Maybe I should have started my research and made picks early.
>
> OK, let' go for it. Just a few years ago picking the Cagliari or Genoa coaches would have been a no-brainer, but now they are both under new management, which is not necessarily as trigger happy as the old one.
> Plus, Ranieri (yes, that Ranieri) has just been named a Cagliari honorary citizen, he has already declared that this will be his last coaching job...will they really have the courage to sack him?

I thought Ranieri was a goner for sure at halftime today, but that was a statement win.

Ciao,
Werner

[Werner Pichler]

Pacheta, picked by noone, would have been a two-pointer.


Ciao,
Werner

[Jesper Lauridsen]

On 2023-11-10, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Pacheta, picked by noone, would have been a two-pointer.

To be fair, he had been less than a week in that job at the deadline.

[Futbolmetrix]

Sometimes it fails, it just takes a bit longer...Not official yet, but Garcia is almost surely out.
We also missed the Svensson (Mainz) sacking last week. Points for MH and Binder.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing

Standings:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 9 Mendilibar
Real Mardin 9 Mendilibar
Futbolmetrix 9 MendilibarZanettiSottil
Alkamista 3 Mendilibar
Werner 3 Mendilibar
MH 2.5 BlancSvenssonMoreno
Binder 1 Svensson

[Werner Pichler]

Urs Fischer, picked by noone, would have been a three-pointer.


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 4:49:17 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Urs Fischer, picked by noone, would have been a three-pointer.
>

Spreadsheet updated

[Werner Pichler]

Pochettino points for Michael, Binder and myself.

Ciao,
Werner

[Blueshirt]

Huh?

[Werner Pichler]

I might have just failed in Fact checking.

Reminder to myself: the Doc and the first news item you come across in a Google search are not exactly trustworthy sources.

Ciao,
Werner

[Blueshirt]

Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> I might have just failed in Fact checking.
>
> Reminder to myself: the Doc and the first news item you come across
> in a Google search are not exactly trustworthy sources.

I ignored his post... as if it had been correct the BBC, Talksport or
Sky Sports News would have been all over it. Plus my phone would be
hopping...

Don't worry though... I'm sure you will get the points eventually! ;-)

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$6b3ed718$0b5899ca@d176aa480b9a9d96>,

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[Werner Pichler]

Well it needs to happen before New Year's Eve!

Ciao,
Werner

[Blueshirt]

Not impossible... it is Chelsea after all! :-)

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$486e5776$2ad8e834@bbcc4a9e0386ea66>,

Surprised Ten Hagens is still at Man U!

[Blueshirt]

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <nnd$486e5776$2ad8e834@bbcc4a9e0386ea66>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Werner Pichler wrote:
> >>
> >> Well it needs to happen before New Year's Eve!
> >
> > Not impossible... it is Chelsea after all! :-)
>
> Surprised Ten Hagens is still at Man U!

Are you? I thought you'd be more surprised that Mauricio Pochettino
is still at Chelsea after your post here the other day!

[The Doctor]

In article <nnd$3c10d23b$668abd12@43da4470551d86f3>,

Here deserves a chance.

[Futbolmetrix]

Heckingbottom (Sheffield U) about to be sacked, that would be points for Blueshirt and me. MH also got a point for Aristouy (Nantes). However, we all missed the Genesio (Rennes) two-pointer.

Updated spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing

[Futbolmetrix]

Heckingbottom gone. Points for Blueshirt (3!) and me.

Updated standings:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 12 MendilibarHeckingbottom
Futbolmetrix 9.5 MendilibarZanettiSottilHeckingbottom
Real Mardin 9 Mendilibar
MH 3.5 BlancAristouySvenssonMoreno

Alkamista 3 Mendilibar
Werner 3 Mendilibar

Binder 1 Svensson

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 8:38:14 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On 12/5/2023 6:15 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:52:07 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 4:49:17 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Urs Fischer, picked by noone, would have been a three-pointer.
> >>>
> >> Spreadsheet updated
> >
> > Heckingbottom (Sheffield U) about to be sacked, that would be points for Blueshirt and me. MH also got a point for Aristouy (Nantes). However, we all missed the Genesio (Rennes) two-pointer.
> >
> > Updated spreadsheet:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> Heckingbottom gone. Points for Blueshirt (3!) and me.
>

Sorry, Blueshirt had only allocated 2 points to Heckingbottom. Correct standings:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 11 MendilibarHeckingbottom

[Futbolmetrix]

On 12/5/2023 8:42 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>
>> Heckingbottom gone. Points for Blueshirt (3!) and me.
>>
>
> Sorry, Blueshirt had only allocated 2 points to Heckingbottom. Correct standings:
>
> Vulture Points Correct Picks
> Blueshirt 11 MendilibarHeckingbottom
> Futbolmetrix 9.5 MendilibarZanettiSottilHeckingbottom
> Real Mardin 9 Mendilibar
> MH 3.5 BlancAristouySvenssonMoreno
> Alkamista 3 Mendilibar
> Werner 3 Mendilibar
> Binder 1 Svensson

Cooper (Nottingham Forest) about to drop, that would be points for
Mardin, and would propel him to first place.

[Futbolmetrix]

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 9:32:31 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Cooper (Nottingham Forest) about to drop, that would be points for
> Mardin, and would propel him to first place.

And... Cooper's gone. Updated standings:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 11 MendilibarHeckingbottom

Real Mardin 11 MendilibarCooper
Futbolmetrix 9.5 MendilibarZanettiSottilHeckingbottom

MH 3.5 BlancAristouySvenssonMoreno
Alkamista 3 Mendilibar
Werner 3 Mendilibar
Binder 1 Svensson

Updated spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing

[Real Mardin]

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 5:24:26 PM UTC, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 9:32:31 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Cooper (Nottingham Forest) about to drop, that would be points for
> > Mardin, and would propel him to first place.
> And... Cooper's gone. Updated standings:
> Vulture Points Correct Picks
> Blueshirt 11 MendilibarHeckingbottom
> Real Mardin 11 MendilibarCooper

Oh dear. This gives me no pleasure, without Steve Cooper Forest might be in League One and not the Premier League. I picked him as the huge amount Forest have spent on transfers this season and last looked like a bit of a risk to his job security if results didn’t go our way, which they didn’t.

Thank you Steve Cooper for everything you’ve done for Forest over the past few seasons.

RM

[Werner Pichler]

Baumgart gone. I think that's points for Blueshirt who's back in first.

This is a proper race.


Ciao,
Werner

[Blueshirt]

Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> Baumgart gone. I think that's points for Blueshirt who's back in
> first.

Am I? Oooh... nice one.

[Futbolmetrix]

Yes. I think that should seal it for you, but let's wait for December 31 before announcing the final results. In the meantime, standings are:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 13 MendilibarBaumgartHeckingbottom

[Blueshirt]

Futbolmetrix wrote:

> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 10:35:01 AM UTC-5, Blueshirt
> wrote:
> > Werner Pichler wrote:
> > >
> > > Baumgart gone. I think that's points for Blueshirt who's back
> > > in first.
> > Am I? Oooh... nice one.
>
> Yes. I think that should seal it for you, but let's wait for
> December 31 before announcing the final results.

Should being the operative word of course.

It would be very harsh for anyone to get sacked now just before
Christmas, or straight after even... but IIRC our old friend Mr
Tuchel got his marching orders from PSG on Christmas Eve. So anything
is possible.

[Werner Pichler]

Two years ago Monaco sacked Niko Kovač, a Futbolmetrix pick, on New Year's Eve, a couple of hours before the deadline.

Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

On 12/21/2023 5:44 PM, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Two years ago Monaco sacked Niko Kovač, a Futbolmetrix pick, on New Year's Eve, a couple of hours before the deadline.

Pioli's position at Milan looks shaky, but I don't think anybody had him.

[Werner Pichler]

Mourinho’s sacking doesn’t exactly come as a surprise, but unfortunately
too late for the purposes of this game.


Ciao,
Werner

[Futbolmetrix]

Werner Pichler wrote:

> Mourinho’s sacking doesn’t exactly come as a surprise, but unfortunately
> too late for the purposes of this game.

It also wouldn't have changed anything at the top of the RSSCSC standings. I only had 0.5 on Mou, so even the 2x bonus would not have been enough to get into second place. Werner would have leapfrogged MH in 4th place.

So, time to announce the final results of the 2023 RSSCSC:

Vulture Points Correct Picks
Blueshirt 13 Mendilibar 3(x3), Baumgart 2, Heckingbottom 2
Real Mardin 11 Mendilibar 3(x3), Cooper 2
Futbolmetrix 9.5 Mendilibar 2(x3), Zanetti 2, Sottil 1, Heckingbottom 0.5
MH 3.5 Blanc 0.5, Aristouy 1, Svensson 1, Moreno 1
Alkamista 3 Mendilibar 1 (x3)
Werner 3 Mendilibar 1 (x3)
Binder 1 Svensson 1

Congrats Blueshirt, the 2023 RSSCSC Champion!

[Futbolmetrix]

Futbolmetrix wrote:


> Congrats Blueshirt, the 2023 RSSCSC Champion!

RSSCSC Hall Of Fame (now also added to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEa1LtCU-5m03pGlTYVQoq2ZMO8dYvVasnKCny4Umls/edit?usp=sharing)

2019 Werner https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/XSc9u05-nZM/m/17dzvX4jBAAJ)
2020 Werner https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/tQ7x-z5PCwo/m/7qt-xh-PAwAJ
2021 Alkamista/Futbolmetrix https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/b6C-v7vABLE/m/DtK0JGTTBQAJ
2022 Werner https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/4-MjRzolCcE/m/0jPQ_Of7DgAJ
2023 Blueshirt https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/bJ8jWTDhDhE/m/MLQ_fJ37DgAJ

[Blueshirt]

Hurrah! <claps>

[Futbolmetrix]

Futbolmetrix wrote:


> Vulture Points Correct Picks
> Blueshirt 13 Mendilibar 3(x3), Baumgart 2, Heckingbottom 2
> Real Mardin 11 Mendilibar 3(x3), Cooper 2
> Futbolmetrix 9.5 Mendilibar 2(x3), Zanetti 2, Sottil 1, Heckingbottom 0.5
> MH 3.5 Blanc 0.5, Aristouy 1, Svensson 1, Moreno 1
> Alkamista 3 Mendilibar 1 (x3)
> Werner 3 Mendilibar 1 (x3)
> Binder 1 Svensson 1

One advantage of ditching Google Groups: fixed width fonts and tables that look the way they are supposed to:

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1YzcEzknYfbbSzRaMQvKEIl5I2IJgpEHcVxWLk3Bso0c/edit?usp=sharing

[Mark]

This game's lost all it's prestige now though without the reigning champion playing in it, and without including the Argentinian and Brazilian Leagues.

[Futbolmetrix]

Mark wrote:


> This game's lost all it's prestige now though without the reigning champion playing in it,

> and without including the Argentinian and Brazilian Leagues..

https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU?si=eRjr-R6UHbigDMhX

[Blueshirt]

Thanks for spoiling my one afternoon of happiness!

FWIW, I would have picked the same managers even if the Brazilian and
Argentinian leagues had been included. So it it what it is... <shrugs>