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Ion Saliu

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Apr 10, 2023, 10:26:59 AM4/10/23
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Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:

There is a new useful feature for reading the Usenet posts in Google Groups. The vast majority of newsgroup members use GROUPS.GOOGLE.COM to post and read on the Internet pioneering service, Usenet.

One drawback of the Google service, very useful otherwise, is the default font. It is a proportional font (of variable-width, that is). Youngbloods, keep in mind, however, that initially Usenet was written and shown in a monospace font. It was the ubiquitous Courier, borrowed from the good ole typewriter. I know, many youngsters don’t even know what a typewriter is!

Very importantly, my software generates outcomes (e.g. lottery numbers, statistical reports, etc.) in monospace-font format. Many readers had some trouble viewing the output of my software. We used a workaround: copy-and-paste the Usenet reports to Notepad for better viewing. It hasn’t worked well for the most part.

And now a good Samaritan came up with the best solution. The posts in the good ol’ Usenet can be acceptably viewed in Google groups. A change in the cascading style in the browser shows the posts in a monospace font (e.g. Courier). I exhaled a big sigh of relief!
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/qW5U1xmla_0/m/xSI3W02dBQAJ
• “Monospace font in Google Groups”.

The operation works in two browsers. I had 100% success with Google Chrome (version 112) and Mozilla Firefox (version 111). What is Microsoft Edge waiting for?!

Following please find detailed and clear instructions.

CHROME:
• In Tools on the toolbar, click More tools, then Extensions. Click the 3-bar button at the top left to open the Extensions menu; at the bottom, click ‘Open Chrome Web Store’. In ‘Search the store’, type Stylus. Click on app’s name to add to Chrome.
• After installation, click on the Extensions button on Toolbar, click on Stylus, then Pin to toolbar.

FIREFOX:
• In Tools on the toolbar, click Addon and tools, Extensions (in the left panel), Find more addons, search for Stylus; in Search results, click on Stylus, then Add to Firefox.
• After installation, click on the Extensions button on Toolbar, click on Stylus, then Pin to toolbar.

How to add viewing with a monospace font (e.g. Courier) –

1.– Open a Google group in the Chrome or Firefox browser. For example, the address bar should read https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer?hl=en for this soccer newsgroup.
2.– Click the Stylus button on the toolbar (e.g. S in a square)
3.– Check the option box ‘Write style for’
4.– The U button appears; e.g. groups.google.com/This URL
5.– Click on the URL (it should be HTML-activated)
6.– Go to the bottom section that reads ‘URLs on this domain’
7.– Copy-and-paste the following code snippet (overwrite the lines 9, 10, 11):

div[role=region] {
font-family: Consolas, Courier, monospace;
display: block;
max-width: 60em;
white-space: pre-wrap;
}
div[role="region"] br {
display: none;
}

8.– You see the code you copied was moved up to the section ‘/* ==UserStyle==’
9.– Click Save in the left panel (‘Add Style’)
10.– Close the window/tab (e.g. https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer?hl=en)
11.– Reopen the window/tab; the new viewing style is in effect.

I subscribe to several Google groups. I notice that adding Stylus to one newsgroup, automatically changes the viewing to monospace in ALL my favorite groups.

May Usenet live forever!


Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
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The Doctor

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Apr 10, 2023, 11:06:15 AM4/10/23
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In article <0c8a30e2-e206-4348...@googlegroups.com>,
The best thing is to unsubscribe from Google Groups!
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Ion Saliu

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Apr 19, 2023, 6:54:44 AM4/19/23
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Ultra-Axiomatics:

The personal computing, including good ol’ 16-bit DOS, had 80 columns. That is, the maximum width was 80 characters in a monospaced font. Many reports in the early days of Usenet were created for an 80-column screen. We can resort to that width by changing the max-width: 60em; line to 80 characters horizontally. Thus, the block of text we need to add to the browser becomes:

div[role=region] {
font-family: Consolas, Courier, monospace;
display: block;
max-width: 80em;
white-space: pre-wrap;
}
div[role="region"] br {
display: none;
}

Incidentally, the Courier font is easier to read at any age! Ain’t it so, Kotkoduck, Kokostirk et al.?

Here is a statistical report created for an 80-column screen. Look how clearly it looks in Stylus compared to the proportional-font screen you were used to –

Lotto 5 / 43 Report: DECADES & LAST-DIGITS
File: PA-5; Date: 07-17-2015
Draws Analyzed: 1000

The numbers in each column in the DEC area show how many numbers from the DECADE listed in the header came out
in the corresponding drawing. The numbers in the 2nd area show the distribution of the LAST DIGIT for every number
in the lotto draw; e.g. 20 has last digit 0; lotto #1 has 1 as last digit, lotto #43 has 3 as last digit, etc.

D E C A D E S Total L A S T D I G I T S Total
Line Draw Dec Dec Dec Dec Dec Dec combos Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig Dig combos
no ings 1-9 10-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-59 DEC 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 DIG

1 9 11 14 23 28 1 2+ 2+ 0- 0- 0 18225 0 1 0- 1+ 1+ 0 0- 0- 1+ 1+ 1600
2 7 26 32 41 42 1- 0- 1 1+ 2+ 0 5400 0 1 2+ 0 0- 0 1+ 1 0 0 800
3 1 2 7 14 24 3+ 1- 1 0 0 0 8400 0 1+ 1 0 2+ 0 0- 1 0 0- 600
4 6 9 17 19 22 2 2+ 1+ 0- 0- 0 16200 0 0- 1- 0- 0 0 1 1+ 0 2+ 480
5 2 3 31 36 42 2 0 0- 2 1+ 0 6480 0 1 2+ 1+ 0 0 1- 0- 0 0- 1000
6 7 9 26 31 36 2 0 1+ 2- 0 0 16200 0- 1+ 0 0 0- 0 2+ 1+ 0- 1- 480
7 4 9 30 38 39 2 0- 0- 3+ 0 0 4320 1 0 0 0- 1+ 0 0- 0 1+ 2+ 384
8 3 9 10 23 36 2+ 1- 1+ 1- 0 0 36000 1+ 0- 0- 2+ 0- 0 1+ 0 0 1+ 640
9 12 13 14 31 32 0 3+ 0- 2+ 0- 0 5400 0 1 2+ 1- 1+ 0 0 0 0- 0 1000
10 13 22 23 38 41 0 1- 2 1+ 1 0 18000 0 1 1 2+ 0- 0 0 0 1+ 0 1000
11 12 14 21 24 43 0- 2 2+ 0- 1+ 0 8100 0 1 1 1+ 2+ 0 0 0- 0 0- 750
12 9 12 19 21 37 1+ 2+ 1- 1 0- 0 40500 0 1 1 0 0 0- 0 1 0- 2+ 600
13 17 25 28 31 42 0 1 2- 1 1+ 0 18000 0 1 1 0- 0- 1+ 0 1 1+ 0 1600
...

There is always an anchor:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/magYsE6HUjw
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Ion Saliu

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May 3, 2023, 6:57:24 AM5/3/23
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Stylus does work in the Edge browser as well. Goto the bottom of the ‘Extensions’, ‘Find new extensions’. Look for: “Can't find what you're looking for? You can also get extensions from the Chrome Web Store.” Download and install as in the Chrome browser.

div[role=region] {
font-family: Consolas, Courier, monospace;
display: block;
max-width: 80em;

Ion Saliu

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May 11, 2023, 6:43:03 AM5/11/23
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Heads-up –
I noticed Stylus changes, unwarrantedly, the appearance (font type) of websites other than newsgroups. Curiously, my webmail looks different with some accounts. For example, I can’t see the messages in my Inbox with the old Hotmail via Outlook. I simply disable Stylus. I click the ‘green’ button on the toolbar. I check the box ‘Turn all styles off’. The button turns ‘red’. When I navigate to a newsgroup, I uncheck the same box; the button turns ‘green’ again.

May Usenet live forever!


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May Usenet live forever!

The Doctor

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May 11, 2023, 7:53:13 AM5/11/23
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In article <d12a85d4-c125-4216...@googlegroups.com>,
Depeer Google GRoups now!
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Blueshirt

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May 11, 2023, 12:34:00 PM5/11/23
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Ion Saliu wrote:

>
> Heads-up –
> I noticed Stylus changes, unwarrantedly, the appearance (font type) of
> websites other than newsgroups. Curiously, my webmail looks different
> with some accounts. For example, I can’t see the messages in my Inbox
> with the old Hotmail via Outlook. I simply disable Stylus. I click the
> ‘green’ button on the toolbar. I check the box ‘Turn all styles off’.
> The button turns ‘red’. When I navigate to a newsgroup, I uncheck the
> same box; the button turns ‘green’ again.
>
> May Usenet live forever!

Amen brother. Although Google Groups isn't Usenet, just a gateway to it...
and Usenet would survive quite happily - and with a lot less spam -
without Google Groups!

The Doctor

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May 11, 2023, 6:42:02 PM5/11/23
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In article <nnd$7b490c9b$4398019a@0ac243f5faf5bcaf>,
HEAR!! HEAR!!!

Blueshirt

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May 11, 2023, 7:18:02 PM5/11/23
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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <nnd$7b490c9b$4398019a@0ac243f5faf5bcaf>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Heads-up –
> >> I noticed Stylus changes, unwarrantedly, the appearance (font type) of
> >> websites other than newsgroups. Curiously, my webmail looks different
> >> with some accounts. For example, I can’t see the messages in my Inbox
> >> with the old Hotmail via Outlook. I simply disable Stylus. I click the
> >> ‘green’ button on the toolbar. I check the box ‘Turn all styles off’.
> >> The button turns ‘red’. When I navigate to a newsgroup, I uncheck the
> >> same box; the button turns ‘green’ again.
> >>
> >> May Usenet live forever!
> >
> > Amen brother. Although Google Groups isn't Usenet, just a gateway to
> > it... and Usenet would survive quite happily - and with a lot less
> > spam - without Google Groups!
>
> HEAR!! HEAR!!!

If you're agreeing with me I must be doing something wrong!!! :-)

The Doctor

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May 11, 2023, 7:44:54 PM5/11/23
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In article <nnd$6e6c812a$1a112cc7@8f3874c479584e69>,
LOL!

Ion Saliu

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May 12, 2023, 6:58:47 AM5/12/23
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Ultra-Axiomatics:

Google Groups is, arguably, the savior of Usenet. Usenet via newsreaders became unmanageable beginning early 2000s. An impossibly large number of messages gobbled up a user’s hard drive (very small at the time). So, wise users (!) transferred the burden to Google. The behemoth has had storage space on a gigantic scale.

Think how much trouble you avoid. There are, just an example, lots of messages describing every minute of a match! Or, every-day predictions of just about every league in the world! Thanks to Google Groups, you and I avert the flood to our devices. You and I simply choose what messages to open and read and perhaps reply to. The 99.99% remaining is junk that doesn’t affect us at all!

May Usenet live forever!

Blueshirt

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May 12, 2023, 9:52:53 AM5/12/23
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Ion Saliu wrote:

> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:34:00 PM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
> > Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Heads-up –
> > > I noticed Stylus changes, unwarrantedly, the appearance (font type)
> > > of websites other than newsgroups. Curiously, my webmail looks
> > > different with some accounts. For example, I can’t see the messages
> > > in my Inbox with the old Hotmail via Outlook. I simply disable
> > > Stylus. I click the ‘green’ button on the toolbar. I check the box
> > > ‘Turn all styles off’. The button turns ‘red’. When I navigate to a
> > > newsgroup, I uncheck the same box; the button turns ‘green’ again.
> > >
> > > May Usenet live forever!
> >
> > Amen brother. Although Google Groups isn't Usenet, just a gateway to
> > it... and Usenet would survive quite happily - and with a lot less
> > spam - without Google Groups!
>
> Ultra-Axiomatics:
>
> Google Groups is, arguably, the savior of Usenet.

I'll go with the arguably part!!! ;-)

> May Usenet live forever!

It'll live... until we all die!

The Doctor

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May 12, 2023, 10:37:36 AM5/12/23
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In article <d0d3daf9-0cbd-449f...@googlegroups.com>,
Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:34:00=E2=80=AFPM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
>> Ion Saliu wrote:=20
>>=20
>> >=20
>> > Heads-up =E2=80=93=20
>> > I noticed Stylus changes, unwarrantedly, the appearance (font type) of=
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>> > websites other than newsgroups. Curiously, my webmail looks different=
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>> > =E2=80=98green=E2=80=99 button on the toolbar. I check the box =E2=80=
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>> >=20
>> > May Usenet live forever!
>> Amen brother. Although Google Groups isn't Usenet, just a gateway to it..=
>.=20
>> and Usenet would survive quite happily - and with a lot less spam -=20
>> without Google Groups!
>
>Ultra-Axiomatics:
>
>Google Groups is, arguably, the savior of Usenet. Usenet via newsreaders be=
>came unmanageable beginning early 2000s. An impossibly large number of mess=
>ages gobbled up a user=E2=80=99s hard drive (very small at the time). So, w=
>ise users (!) transferred the burden to Google. The behemoth has had storag=
>e space on a gigantic scale.
>
>Think how much trouble you avoid. There are, just an example, lots of messa=
>ges describing every minute of a match! Or, every-day predictions of just a=
>bout every league in the world! Thanks to Google Groups, you and I avert th=
>e flood to our devices. You and I simply choose what messages to open and r=
>ead and perhaps reply to. The 99.99% remaining is junk that doesn=E2=80=99t=
> affect us at all!
>
>May Usenet live forever!
>

Google GRoups is a major source of spamtrolling

check out


https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups

Depeer Google groups Now!!

The Doctor

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May 12, 2023, 10:38:36 AM5/12/23
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In article <nnd$29209a6f$29e33eb2@ce5a6900f00743c1>,
no.

>
>> May Usenet live forever!
>
>It'll live... until we all die!

Exactly!

Blueshirt

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May 12, 2023, 12:19:54 PM5/12/23
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <nnd$29209a6f$29e33eb2@ce5a6900f00743c1>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Ion Saliu wrote:
> >>
> >> Ultra-Axiomatics:
> >>
> >> Google Groups is, arguably, the savior of Usenet.
> >
> > I'll go with the arguably part!!! ;-)
>
> no.

Wrong answer Dave.

Ion Saliu

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May 13, 2023, 7:09:23 AM5/13/23
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On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 5:37:36 PM UTC+3, The Doctor wrote:
>

Google GRoups is a major source of spamtrolling

check out

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Daily... and dozens of times a month... in newsreaders, as well as in GG!

"Yahweh, Yahweh, King of goats
Don't jump at our throats
Let people live on Usenet
Don't fuque the Internet!"

Ion Saliu

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May 13, 2023, 7:15:54 AM5/13/23
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On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 4:52:53 PM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
>

> > May Usenet live forever!
>
> It'll live... until we all die!

There are new kids in town already. They will take over like Jeezes after Yahwes are gone...

"The Usenet will never die,
In da hell we'll ne'er fry
The chance is really big
We will live another gig."

https://saliu.com/
(da page grand finale)

Blueshirt

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May 13, 2023, 9:00:00 AM5/13/23
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Ion Saliu wrote:

> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 4:52:53 PM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
> >
>
> > > May Usenet live forever!
> >
> > It'll live... until we all die!
>
> There are new kids in town already. They will take over like Jeezes
> after Yahwes are gone...

Hopefully, although the age profile of the people I communicate with on
Usenet does seem on the upper side of being new kids!

The Doctor

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May 13, 2023, 10:46:19 AM5/13/23
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In article <d92b2ab7-ead3-4eca...@googlegroups.com>,
Ion Saliu <ions...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 5:37:36 PM UTC+3, The Doctor wrote:
>>
>
>Google GRoups is a major source of spamtrolling
>
>check out
>
>> --
>Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
>Yahweh, King & country! Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist
>rising!
>Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
>Alberta 29 May 2023 boot out the UCP and the NDP! Beware https://mindspring.com
>
>Daily... and dozens of times a month... in newsreaders, as well as in GG!

By a high source of spamtroll is from Google Groups

>


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