Andrew Flintoff and Brett Lee are blatant chuckers - Peter Roebuck
Ian Thorpe
Action must be fixed
October 2, 2004
Unless Andrew Flintoff alters his action, he will be thrown into an
avoidable fracas, writes Peter Roebuck.
Andrew Flintoff's bowling action is provoking concern. His action has
deteriorated since he returned from his latest injury and now contains an
unmistakable jerk.
Before long, the roughness of his style is bound to attract the attention of
observers prepared to remove their eyes from a harmless tweaker suspected,
at worst, of reverse-throwing at a mild pace.
It is extraordinary that so much fuss has been made about a spinner at a
time when heads are being clattered and wickets taken by men whose menace
goes beyond an ability to turn the ball at right-angles. The delivery that
felled Brian Lara in Hampshire was the clearest throw since the ball that
removed Marcus Trescothick in Perth not so long ago.
Cricket is trying to find its way through the scientific and legal quagmire
that illegal bowling has become. Not that the issue was any more
satisfactorily dealt with in the past.
Such is the prevailing confusion that the danger arises that bowlers of all
sorts will feel free to send the ball down without taking heed of the
restraints supposedly imposed by the rules of the game.
Every country has strong opinions about all bowlers except their own, a
habit also detected during the outbreak of corruption that bedevilled the
game a few years ago. But then, corruption is not merely a matter of money
and, as usual, the International Cricket Council is left holding the baby -
an overrated activity.
Flintoff's action requires attention. Of course, he might not be conscious
of the roughness that has crept in over the course of a few months during
which his career has caught fire in the manner of an Olympic flame.
The suggestion that bowlers with illegal actions are culprits to be put
alongside hijackers, greedy politicians and men rubbing mint into the ball
is unkind. Still, footage is taken of every over bowled in a match and shown
to players in the evenings, so cricketers are not without information.
Accordingly, it is hard to believe that no one in the England camp is aware
this issue might crop up.
Flintoff is an important member of an emerging England side. Besides his
buffeting batting, he is a "strike" bowler in the sense that he is used in
short bursts and given the task of upsetting an innings.
He bowls fast and with hostility and favours the short-pitched delivery.
Armed with the old ball, he opens his chest even more and tries to cut the
ball away from the bat, the celebrated "reverse" swing of recent discovery.
In short, he is a handful.
Injuries have threatened to curtail his career as a bowler, a circumstance
bound to inhibit a swashbuckling style of batting that has emerged after a
long period underground.
Subsequent to his breakdowns, desperate to retain his menace and anxious to
protect his body without losing pace, the Lancastrian has put greater
emphasis on the use of chest, wrist and arm to hurl the ball down.
Unfortunately, the elbow also has come into play, as is almost inevitable
when wrist and shoulder are pushed to their limits. His raggedness is more
obvious when he moves around the wicket and bends the ball away from
left-handers.
Flintoff may remain within the leeway of 10 per cent that has been permitted
to fast bowlers since slow-motion film revealed that, otherwise, hardly
anyone would pass muster. Alternatively, he may stray outside that range. By
and large, the 10 per cent allowance reflects the capabilities of the naked
eye, which remains the surest guide in these affairs.
Since Flintoff's straightening of the elbow can be seen from a distance, he
might contravene even the amended rules. In that case, the matter must be
drawn forthwith to the attention of responsible officials so that it can be
confronted before it is too late.
At least it is possible nowadays to realise matters of this sort without
feeling that a player's position is thereby put in peril. Flintoff's action
requires the cricketing version of surgery. Otherwise, it will be raised
again by those persuaded that authorities omit to treat every ball upon its
merits.
Yorker
"Ian Thorpe" <IanThor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941557.html
>
> Action must be fixed
> October 2, 2004
>
> Unless Andrew Flintoff alters his action, he will be thrown into an
> avoidable fracas, writes Peter Roebuck.
>
> Andrew Flintoff's bowling action is provoking concern. His action has
> deteriorated since he returned from his latest injury and now contains an
> unmistakable jerk.
>
> Before long, the roughness of his style is bound to attract the attention
> of observers prepared to remove their eyes from a harmless tweaker
> suspected, at worst, of reverse-throwing at a mild pace.
>
> It is extraordinary that so much fuss has been made about a spinner at a
> time when heads are being clattered and wickets taken by men whose menace
> goes beyond an ability to turn the ball at right-angles. The delivery that
> felled Brian Lara in Hampshire was the clearest throw since the ball that
> removed Marcus Trescothick in Perth not so long ago.
I believe Roebuck is talking about this test in which Trescothick was out
both times to Brett Lee and it was the only test Trescothick played at
Perth.
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64011.html
So Peter Roebuck called that ball the "clearest throw" and Brett Lee a
blatant chucker.
CricketLeague
>
> Action must be fixed
> October 2, 2004
>
> Unless Andrew Flintoff alters his action, he will be thrown into an
> avoidable fracas, writes Peter Roebuck.
>
> Andrew Flintoff's bowling action is provoking concern. His action has
> deteriorated since he returned from his latest injury and now contains an
> unmistakable jerk.
>
> Before long, the roughness of his style is bound to attract the attention
> of observers prepared to remove their eyes from a harmless tweaker
> suspected, at worst, of reverse-throwing at a mild pace.
>
> It is extraordinary that so much fuss has been made about a spinner at a
> time when heads are being clattered and wickets taken by men whose menace
> goes beyond an ability to turn the ball at right-angles.
It is extraordinary so much fuss is being made about spinner Murali.
CricketLeague
Subject typo corrected.
Has any one noticed none of the England, Australia, NewZealand and South
African cricket fans who hate Murali, responded or posted any comments in
this thread ?
Subcontinental idiots and shameless slaves like Geico Caveman will never get
it that these racist bastards who attack Murali have an agenda.
Diggler
>
> Has any one noticed none of the England, Australia, NewZealand and South
> African cricket fans who hate Murali, responded or posted any comments in
> this thread ?
>
Because generally no one replies to your posts.
I doubt you're prepared to accept it, but the actions of Brett Lee and
Dale Steyn have recently been dubbed highly dubious by members of this
group, none of which appeared to be non-White. Flintoff will be fine.
CricketLeague
"Diggler" <dnarm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Subject typo corrected.
Has any one noticed none of the England, Australia, NewZealand and South
African cricket fans who hate Murali, responded or posted any comments in
this thread ?
Subcontinental idiots and shameless slaves like Geico Caveman will never get
it that these racist bastards who attack Murali have an agenda.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941557.html
Andrew Flintoff and Brett Lee are Blatant Chuckers - Peter Roebuck
Ærchie
any sense had already left town. Yet Ian Thorpe was standin' in the
doorway saying:
you fucking fool - your ability to read is about the same as Murali's
ability to bowl!
Lee is not even mentioned!
<PLONK!>
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Ian Thorpe
"Ærchie" <arch...@pphotmail.com> wrote in message
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Fucking moron (u asked for it by abusing me) Erchie,
Take some courses in how to learn and comprehend English.
Andrew Flintoff and Brett Lee are Blatant Chuckers - Peter Roebuck
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941557.html
g.skinner
>
> Take some courses in how to learn and comprehend English.
>
> Andrew Flintoff and Brett Lee are Blatant Chuckers - Peter Roebuck
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941557.html
Can you point out where Brett Lee is mentioned - can just about
comprehend English.
Ian Thorpe
It doesn't mention him. Fuck. FUCK!! *FUCK!!!* I'm never wrong, I never
post articles with made up headings, I never use anything out of context.
Hang on, yes I do. Almost forgot that I'm a pathetic illiterate troll.
I post inflammatory messages/articles, allow suckers to post genuine
responses, then repost the original message/article. It's my "thing". I
get my rocks off to people flaming me, even if I can't comprehend their
response or the articles I copy.
Ian Thorpe, UPHd. (the U is for ultra)
will_s
"Diggler" <dnarm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
By replying to this total loser you give more chance to bleat and moan.
Ignore the fuckwit as well as his other alias and this group will become
better
Diggler
> > I doubt you're prepared to accept it, but the actions of Brett Lee and
> > Dale Steyn have recently been dubbed highly dubious by members of this
> > group, none of which appeared to be non-White. Flintoff will be fine.
>
> By replying to this total loser you give more chance to bleat and moan.
> Ignore the fuckwit as well as his other alias and this group will become
> better
I know, and trust me I do make an effort to not reply to his crap.
Most of the time i read it and it simply doesn't make sense, so I kind
of feel compelled to help the poor bastard learn the language so he
can actually communicate properly. I'm too nice. He'll always find
ways to get into electronic arguments, however, he's obviously quite
addicted to it and doesn't get out much.
CricketLeague
"will_s" <willsju...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Racist whining loser will_s,
You are one of the racist aussie losers who cant stand a non-white
player Murali break the druggie Warne's bowling record.
You dont even know how to spell the word "Racism". I know its
not a typo in the thread subject you started.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/f2b08aa6e8f2fc70
What a pity !!!
You ran away like a typical racist loser umpteen no.of times from responding
to my logical and rational comments.
You should get the word "LOSER" stamped on your forehead.
CricketLeague
Racist moron Diggler,
Which part of this you are having trouble to comprehend ??
What if for a minute cricket fans from Australia, England, NZ and
South Africa STOP whining and whingeing like losers about
Murali and START admitting Brett Lee and Flintoff are
CHEATING CHUCKERS......
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527941557.html
Andrew Flintoff and Brett Lee are Blatant CHUCKING CHEATS - Peter Roebuck
Robert Henderson
<Cricket...@USA.com> writes
>> deteriorated since he returned from his latest injury and now contains an
>> unmistakable jerk.
>>
>> Before long, the roughness of his style is bound to attract the attention
>> of observers prepared to remove their eyes from a harmless tweaker
>> suspected, at worst, of reverse-throwing at a mild pace.
>>
>> It is extraordinary that so much fuss has been made about a spinner at a
>> time when heads are being clattered and wickets taken by men whose menace
>> goes beyond an ability to turn the ball at right-angles.
>
>
>It is extraordinary so much fuss is being made about spinner Murali.
>
IQ as calculated by Lynn and Vanhanen? Ah yes, 81. RH
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