Quakerator
Burr
Have a months worth of food stored and if we can get anything locally then
we can last longer.
My problem is fuel/gas. This thing burns 6.5 gal in 8 hours. I am going to
store 20 gal. and I am getting a propane adaptor made so I can run propane.
Gas cost 4.87 a gal here, propane is a lot cheaper. I will start working on
the propane thing tomorrow. I have already found someone who makes them in
the USA and I will have one in a few weeks.
--
Burr
Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
I'll be lifting until they pry the
bar from my cold dead hands
Adventure before Dementia
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE
cuh...@webtv.net
filled up.
cuhulin
RHF
Gasoline {Petro} is getting closet to ~$4 here in
the Foothills of California $3.93/9 per Gallon for
'Regular' Un-Leaded.
http://www.motortrend.com/gas_prices/33/california/tuolumne/sonora/index.html
CAL-GOV Jerry Brown is talking about making this
State's Gasoline 'cheaper' by Selling it by the Metric
LITER : At about $1.04/9 per LITER of Gas.
http://gallonstoliters.com/
I'd Vote for Jerry : If he could 'Magically' bring the Price
of Gasoline down to around ~US$1 ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
-while- Prez "BO" {Obama} Wants To Drive Gasoline
Prices Even Higher To Force American's Out of Their
Cars and Trucks and make them Carless, Jobless,
Homeless and Starving Poor.
Prez "BO" {Obama} Creating Double Digit Unemployment
Plus Double Digit Inflation And Soon To Be Double Digit
Interest Rates : Prez "BO" {Obama} He's Bad for the US
Economy and Bad for Americans : NO Second Term
-anybody-but-obama-in-2012-:- vote-no-on-obama-
.
The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Prez Obama's New Illegal War-for-Oil in Libya !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/814588a780549bc8
.
The Truth About $6.66 Gasoline
and The-Mark-of-the-Obama©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e68178baeabfb4c8
.
.
Burr
Somebody had to, he got in but I think most of his votes came from the
grave!
Burr
I have 5500w to play with, the AC take 2700w, the refrig takes 600w. The
water pump, flash heater and computer and radios are all on demand but my
VoIP runs ll the time with DSL & Cordless phones. I can turn stuff on and
off>
Brenda Ann
"Burr" wrote in message news:zZWdna8MvODUjxbQ...@iwvisp.com...
Installed and tested.
I have 5500w to play with, the AC take 2700w, the refrig takes 600w. The
water pump, flash heater and computer and radios are all on demand but my
VoIP runs ll the time with DSL & Cordless phones. I can turn stuff on and
off>
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You can get by on a lot less than us, apparently.
I need to look into whether I can do a propane (LPG) conversion on our
genny... right now, we have about 35 gallons of gas in reserve.
Burr
http://www.pngtechnologies.com/Index.html
--
Burr
Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
I'll be lifting until they pry the
bar from my cold dead hands
Adventure before Dementia
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE
"Brenda Ann" <newsg...@fullspectrumradio.org> wrote in message
news:RoydnYdjG_csjhbQ...@giganews.com...
RHF
wrote:
> "Burr" wrote in messagenews:zZWdna8MvODUjxbQ...@iwvisp.com...
We are looking at 18 KW A~C Generator to
'supplement' the PG&E plus Solar and Batteries.
-the-new-mix-would-be-
1st = PG&E for normal A~C with 250 GAL of Propane
[Tank #1] for Heat and Water
+ Plus Selling Solar to the Grid
2nd = 18 KW Generator for Back-Up A~C with 250 GAL
of Propane [Tank #2] to Power the Generator
[~10+ Days 24/7]
+ Plus Solar Charging the Batteries
3rd = A~C from Batteries with Solar Charging
Also we are looking at the two Streams of Free
Running Water thru the Property :
# 1 from the Dam Discharge that has a minimum
of a 4.75" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 30 Foot Drop
* Summer Estimated Lowest Flow
# 2 from the Side 16" Culvert Discharge that has a
minimum of a ~2" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 15
Foot Drop * Summer Guesstimate Lowest Flow
power to the people -not- the corporations ~ RHF
.
.
RHF
- Did you vote for that guy Roy?
-me-o- RHF Voting 'for' CAL-GOV Jerry Brown -rotfl- NO!
-me-o- RHF Voting 'for' Prez "BO" {Obama} -rotfl- NO!
In 2012 the Republican Party Candidate
for the US Prez-A-Duntz will be . . . . . .
_________________________________
And I just 'may' Vote for Him/Her ;;-}}
remember i predicted that right here
on this day & date - again ~ RHF
Fri, Oct 8 2010 7:15 am
Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:48 pm
Sat, Oct 16 2010 5:56 am
Sat, Oct 30 2010 4:28 pm
Wed, Nov 10 2010 7:33 am
.
.
-hint- 1 John 5 : 2
.
.
Joe from Kokomo
> Installed and tested.
>
> I have 5500w to play with, the AC take 2700w, the refrig takes 600w. The
> water pump, flash heater and computer and radios are all on demand but my
> off>
If your A/C is central air, it's almost a sure bet a 5500 watt generator
will NOT -start- the unit (even though the 'run' watts are 2700). If you
are talking about a window A/C unit, you should be OK.
dave
>
> We are looking at 18 KW A~C Generator to
> 'supplement' the PG&E plus Solar and Batteries.
>
> -the-new-mix-would-be-
>
> 1st = PG&E for normal A~C with 250 GAL of Propane
> [Tank #1] for Heat and Water
> + Plus Selling Solar to the Grid
>
> 2nd = 18 KW Generator for Back-Up A~C with 250 GAL
> of Propane [Tank #2] to Power the Generator
> [~10+ Days 24/7]
> + Plus Solar Charging the Batteries
>
> 3rd = A~C from Batteries with Solar Charging
>
> Also we are looking at the two Streams of Free
> Running Water thru the Property :
> # 1 from the Dam Discharge that has a minimum
> of a 4.75" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 30 Foot Drop
> * Summer Estimated Lowest Flow
> # 2 from the Side 16" Culvert Discharge that has a
> minimum of a ~2" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 15
> Foot Drop * Summer Guesstimate Lowest Flow
>
> power to the people -not- the corporations ~ RHF
> .
> .
Good luck defending that from the marauding herds of former government
union workers.
cuh...@webtv.net
longer, Propane doesn't foul the engine oil, engines (usually) start
more easily.I think Servel company still makes refrigerators that run on
gas, Natural Gas, anyway.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
might have a good used Generator for sale at a Good price.Or look around
on the Internet and phone books and newspaper classified ads.
cuhulin
dave
I have 7 atomic piles boiling water within 300 miles of me. I have that
many natural gas/fuel oil plants within a hundred miles. I can "camp
out" at home indefinitely. Plenty of stove and lantern fuel. Plenty of
batteries. 2 vehicles that never get below 1/3 tank and several
inverters. I am planning to run the radio gear on deep cycle marine
batteries with PV replenish.
RHF
> On 03/24/2011 03:28 AM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > We are looking at 18 KW A~C Generator to
> > 'supplement' the PG&E plus Solar and Batteries.
>
> > -the-new-mix-would-be-
>
> > 1st = PG&E for normal A~C with 250 GAL of Propane
> > [Tank #1] for Heat and Water
> > + Plus Selling Solar to the Grid
>
> > 2nd = 18 KW Generator for Back-Up A~C with 250 GAL
> > of Propane [Tank #2] to Power the Generator
> > [~10+ Days 24/7]
> > + Plus Solar Charging the Batteries
>
> > 3rd = A~C from Batteries with Solar Charging
>
> > Also we are looking at the two Streams of Free
> > Running Water thru the Property :
> > # 1 from the Dam Discharge that has a minimum
> > of a 4.75" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 30 Foot Drop
> > * Summer Estimated Lowest Flow
> > # 2 from the Side 16" Culvert Discharge that has a
> > minimum of a ~2" Diameter Pipe Flow* with a 15
> > Foot Drop * Summer Guesstimate Lowest Flow
>
- Good luck defending that from the marauding herds
- of former government union workers.
So Dave... I would have to defend it from myself . . .
dave you boggle the vacant cranial cavities
of the . . . mindlessly mindless ~ RHF
.
FWIW : Just like the Islam-O-Terrorist are a small
subset of the vast majority of Islamic Faithful.
-also- The Activist Cadre in the Streets possing
as Union Members are a small subset of the vast
majority of Hardworking Union Members be they
Private a/o Public Employee Government Unions.
.
IMHO : Unions Have a Rightful Place and Honored
Necessary Role in American Society Representing
Their Membership as a Partner With the Employers.
-but- There has to be a Sustainable Balance in Pay
and Benefits : That Ensures Jobs Now and For
Future Generations of American Workers and the
US Businesses that Employ Them.
.
National Sustainable Balance in Pay and Benefits :
The Same System of Pay and Benefits along with
the Employer and Employee Contributions that the
US Federal Government Uses Should Be The US
National Standard for All City, School, County,
Utility and State Employers and Employees.
.
Local Sustainable Balance in Pay and Benefits :
Governor Walker of Wisconsin should ensure that
All Wisconsin City, School, County, Utility and State
Employees have the very same Union Rights, Pay
and Benefits as President Obama gives/allows US
Federal Government Employees :
! NO MORE & NO LESS !
* That's Labor Equality For All
* That's Labor Justice For All
.
OBTW : I have been a Union a/o Association Member
of a Federal Public Employee Union a/o Association
All My Work Life :
If 'You' have a Union at Work JOIN IT !
+ Pay Your Union Dues
+ Attend Your Union Meeting
+ Be Active In Your Union
[The Union Is As Good As The Members Make It
-and- As Bad As The Members Allow It To Be]
.
Blessed by God {Allah} with Life and
Progressive by Nature through Living ~ RHF
[Just an Old Retired Blue Collar
Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch]
.
.
Equality For All Workers *NOT* Special Privileges
and Benefits For City, County and State Employees
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/93ad05bc9780c1ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/487a5fab44c34d33
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ec5a457fd9b59160
.
Truth Be Told Prez "BO" {Obama} Is Anti-Union
and His Actions Prove It ! : Time and Time Again !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6966c3b7d2c24c94
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e68178baeabfb4c8
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eca3c4ab65846edd
.
.
RHF
? Why not add a small home Windmill driven
Generator to the Mix to charge the Batteries !
.
dave
Because the blades would reek havoc on 6 meters?
cuh...@webtv.net
ago, they are not spam scams.
Heartland America has a 60 Watt Solar Power kit for sale,
$299.99.Original price was $499.99.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
Motorhome.Before I sold it, I gave the Motorhome generator to my brother
in law.I think he still has it.One cylinder engine/Onan generator.That
was back around a few weeks before the Y2K when I gave him the
generator.There is an Onan shop on Highway 49, a few miles South (South
is Always Best) of doggy's couch.My brother in law and I took the
generator to that Onan shop for them to check it out and make sure it is
in Real Good running condition.The carburetor and valves needed a little
of work done to them.My brother in law owns a 1986 Pace Arrow
Motorhome.He doesn't drive it much, he keeps it parked by the side of
his house.You can be Sure he keeps it in Real Condition.
cuhulin
Burr
All I care about is the AC & refrig.
--
Burr
Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
I'll be lifting until they pry the
bar from my cold dead hands
Adventure before Dementia
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE
"Joe from Kokomo" <j...@indy.net> wrote in message
news:imfd7m$63a$1...@dont-email.me...
cuh...@webtv.net
enough for doggy and me.Usually, I run one of my old electric
fans.Current 'runner' is an old Hunter electric fan sitting on top of an
end table by doggy's end of her couch.
Those old, old, old electric fans run forever.That was wayyyyyyy back
when them made them Good.
cuhulin
RHF
> Window unit and it bumped when it came on!
>
> All I care about is the AC & refrig.
>
> --
> Burr
> Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
> I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
> I'll be lifting until they pry the
> bar from my cold dead hands
> Adventure before Dementia
>
> I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE
>
>
> > On 3/24/2011 5:43 AM, Burr wrote:
> >> Installed and tested.
>
> >> I have 5500w to play with, the AC take 2700w, the refrig takes 600w. The
> >> water pump, flash heater and computer and radios are all on demand but my
> >> VoIP runs ll the time with DSL& Cordless phones. I can turn stuff on and
> >> off>
>
> > If your A/C is central air, it's almost a sure bet a 5500 watt generator
> > will NOT -start- the unit (even though the 'run' watts are 2700). If you
> > are talking about a window A/C unit, you should be OK.
BURR : Chilling-Out on a Hot Day and a Cold Brew :
Now That's Life ! :o) ~ RHF
.
RHF
> I have a Whirlpool 18,000 BTU window unit airconditioner.It does Good
> enough for doggy and me.Usually, I run one of my old electric
> fans.Current 'runner' is an old Hunter electric fan sitting on top of an
> end table by doggy's end of her couch.
- That was wayyyyyyy back when them made
- them Good.
- cuhulin
About the only thing you ever had to do
was replace the Electric Cord due to age.
.
.
Burr
--
Burr
Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
I'll be lifting until they pry the
bar from my cold dead hands
Adventure before Dementia
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE
BURR : Chilling-Out on a Hot Day and a Cold Brew :
Nickname unavailable
Once in power, Hitler showed his true colors by promptly breaking all
his promises to workers. The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective
bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the "Labor
Front" replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the
Nazi party and did not represent workers. According to the law that
created it, "Its task is to see that every individual should be able…
to perform the maximum of work." Workers would indeed greatly boost
their productivity under Nazi rule. But they also became exploited.
Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an
hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for
unskilled labor. (3) Yet workers did not protest. This was partly
because the Nazis had restored order to the economy, but an even
bigger reason was that the Nazis would have cracked down on any
protest.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/7EugaH/www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
Myth: Hitler was a leftist.
Fact: Nearly all of Hitler's beliefs
placed him on the far right.
Summary
Many conservatives accuse
Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named
"National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and
control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private
capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn
were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism
does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be
democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always
on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics
over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over
cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship
over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism,
nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness,
common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and
even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an
atheist.
Argument
To most people, Hitler's beliefs belong to the
extreme far right. For example, most conservatives believe in
patriotism and a strong military; carry these beliefs far enough, and
you arrive at Hitler's warring nationalism. This association has long
been something of an embarrassment to the far right. To deflect such
criticism, conservatives have recently launched a counter-attack,
claiming that Hitler was a socialist, and therefore belongs to the
political left, not the right.
The primary basis for this claim is
that Hitler was a National Socialist. The word "National" evokes the
state, and the word "Socialist" openly identifies itself as such.
However, there is no academic controversy over the status of this
term: it was a misnomer. Misnomers are quite common in the history of
political labels. Examples include the German Democratic Republic
(which was neither) and Vladimir Zhirinovsky's "Liberal Democrat"
party (which was also neither). The true question is not whether
Hitler called his party "socialist," but whether or not it actually
was.
In fact, socialism has never been tried at the national level
anywhere in the world. This may surprise some people -- after all,
wasn't the Soviet Union socialist? The answer is no. Many nations and
political parties have called themselves "socialist," but none have
actually tried socialism. To understand why, we should revisit a few
basic political terms.
Perhaps the primary concern of any political
ideology is who gets to own and control the means the production. This
includes factories, farmlands, machinery, etc. Generally there have
been three approaches to this question. The first was aristocracy, in
which a ruling elite owned the land and productive wealth, and
peasants and serfs had to obey their orders in return for their
livelihood. The second is capitalism, which has disbanded the ruling
elite and allows a much broader range of private individuals to own
the means of production. However, this ownership is limited to those
who can afford to buy productive wealth; nearly all workers are
excluded. The third (and untried) approach is socialism, where
everyone owns and controls the means of production, by means of the
vote. As you can see, there is a spectrum here, ranging from a few
people owning productive wealth at one end, to everyone owning it at
the other.
Socialism has been proposed in many forms. The most common
is social democracy, where workers vote for their supervisors, as well
as their industry representatives to regional or national congresses.
Another proposed form is anarcho-socialism, where workers own
companies that would operate on a free market, without any central
government at all. As you can see, a central planning committee is
hardly a necessary feature of socialism. The primary feature is worker
ownership of production.
The Soviet Union failed to qualify as
socialist because it was a dictatorship over workers -- that is, a
type of aristocracy, with a ruling elite in Moscow calling all the
shots. Workers cannot own or control anything under a totalitarian
government. In variants of socialism that call for a central
government, that government is always a strong or even direct
democracy… never a dictatorship. It doesn't matter if the dictator
claims to be carrying out the will of the people, or calls himself a
"socialist" or a "democrat." If the people themselves are not in
control, then the system is, by definition, non-democratic and non-
socialist.
And what of Nazi Germany? The idea that workers
controlled the means of production in Nazi Germany is a bitter joke.
It was actually a combination of aristocracy and capitalism.
Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of
production. The Nazi "Charter of Labor" gave employers complete power
over their workers. It established the employer as the "leader of the
enterprise," and read: "The leader of the enterprise makes the
decisions for the employees and laborers in all matters concerning the
enterprise." (1)
The employer, however, was subject to the frequent
orders of the ruling Nazi elite. After the Nazis took power in 1933,
they quickly established a highly controlled war economy under the
direction of Dr. Hjalmar Schacht. Like all war economies, it boomed,
making Germany the second nation to recover fully from the Great
Depression, in 1936. (The first nation was Sweden, in 1934. Following
Keynesian-like policies, the Swedish government spent its way out of
the Depression, proving that state economic policies can be successful
without resorting to dictatorship or war.)
Prior to the Nazi seizure
of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in
response to the Great Depression. During his drive to power, Hitler
exploited this social unrest by promising workers to strengthen their
labor unions and increase their standard of living. But these were
empty promises; privately, he was reassuring wealthy German
businessmen that he would crack down on labor once he achieved power.
Historian William Shirer describes the Nazi's dual strategy:
• "The party had to play both sides of the tracks. It had to allow
[Nazi officials] Strasser, Goebbels and the crank Feder to beguile the
masses with the cry that the National Socialists were truly
'socialists' and against the money barons. On the other hand, money to
keep the party going had to be wheedled out of those who had an ample
supply of it." (2)
Once in power, Hitler showed his true colors by promptly breaking all
his promises to workers. The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective
bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the "Labor
Front" replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the
Nazi party and did not represent workers. According to the law that
created it, "Its task is to see that every individual should be able…
to perform the maximum of work." Workers would indeed greatly boost
their productivity under Nazi rule. But they also became exploited.
Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an
hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for
unskilled labor. (3) Yet workers did not protest. This was partly
because the Nazis had restored order to the economy, but an even
bigger reason was that the Nazis would have cracked down on any
protest.
There was no part of Nazism, therefore, that even remotely resembled
socialism. But what about the political nature of Nazism in general?
Did it belong to the left, or to the right? Let's take a closer look:
The politics of Nazism
The political right is popularly associated with the following
principles. Of course, it goes without saying that these are
generalizations, and not every person on the far right believes in
every principle, or disbelieves its opposite. Most people's political
beliefs are complex, and cannot be neatly pigeonholed. This is as true
of Hitler as anyone. But since the far right is trying peg Hitler as a
leftist, it's worth reviewing the tenets popularly associated with the
right. These include:
• Individualism over collectivism.
• Racism or racial segregation over racial tolerance.
• Eugenics over freedom of reproduction.
• Merit over equality.
• Competition over cooperation.
• Power politics and militarism over pacifism.
• One-person rule or self-rule over democracy.
• Capitalism over Marxism.
• Realism over idealism.
• Nationalism over internationalism.
• Exclusiveness over inclusiveness.
• Meat-eating over vegetarianism.
• Gun ownership over gun control
• Common sense over theory or science.
• Pragmatism over principle.
• Religion over secularism.
Let's review these spectrums one by one, and see where Hitler stood in
his own words. Ultimately, Hitler's views are not monolithically
conservative -- on a few issues, his views are complex and difficult
to label. But as you will see, the vast majority of them belong on the
far right:
Individualism over collectivism.
Many conservatives argue that Hitler was a leftist because he
subjugated the individual to the state. However, this characterization
is wrong, for several reasons.
The first error is in assuming that this is exclusively a liberal
trait. Actually, U.S. conservatives take considerable pride in being
patriotic Americans, and they deeply honor those who have sacrificed
their lives for their country. The Marine Corps is a classic example:
as every Marine knows, all sense of individuality is obliterated in
the Marines Corps, and one is subject first, foremost and always to
the group.
The second error is forgetting that all human beings subscribe to
individualism and collectivism. If you believe that you are personally
responsible for taking care of yourself, you are an individualist. If
you freely belong and contribute to any group -- say, an employing
business, church, club, family, nation, or cause -- then you are a
collectivist as well. Neither of these traits makes a person
inherently "liberal" or "conservative," and to claim that you are an
"evil socialist" because you champion a particular group is not a
serious argument.
Political scientists therefore do not label people "liberal" or
"conservative" on the basis of their individualism or collectivism.
Much more important is how they approach their individualism and
collectivism. What groups does a person belong to? How is power
distributed in the group? Does it practice one-person rule, minority
rule, majority rule, or self-rule? Liberals believe in majority rule.
Hitler practiced one-person rule. Thus, there is no comparison.
And on that score, conservatives might feel that they are off the
hook, too, because they claim to prefer self-rule to one-person rule.
But their actions say otherwise. Many of the institutions that
conservatives favor are really quite dictatorial: the military, the
church, the patriarchal family, the business firm.
Hitler himself downplayed all groups except for the state, which he
raised to supreme significance in his writings. However, he did not
identify the state as most people do, as a random collection of people
in artificially drawn borders. Instead, he identified the German state
as its racially pure stock of German or Aryan blood. In Mein Kampf,
Hitler freely and interchangeably used the terms "Aryan race," "German
culture" and "folkish state." To him they were synonyms, as the quotes
below show. There were citizens inside Germany (like Jews) who were
not part of Hitler's state, while there were Germans outside Germany
(for example, in Austria) who were. But the main point is that
Hitler's political philosophy was not really based on "statism" as we
know it today. It was actually based on racism -- again, a subject
that hits uncomfortably closer to home for conservatives, not
liberals.
As Hitler himself wrote:
"The main plank in the Nationalist Socialist program is to abolish the
liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of
humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the
soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood." (4)
"The state is a means to an end. Its end lies in the preservation and
advancement of a community of physically and psychically homogenous
creatures. This preservation itself comprises first of all existence
as a race… Thus, the highest purpose of a folkish state is concern for
the preservation of those original racial elements which bestow
culture and create the beauty and dignity of a higher mankind. We, as
Aryans, can conceive of the state only as the living organism of a
nationality which… assures the preservation of this nationality…" (5)
"The German Reich as a state must embrace all Germans and has the
task, not only of assembling and preserving the most valuable stocks
of basic racial elements in this people, but slowly and surely of
raising them to a dominant position." (6)
And it was in the service of this racial state that Hitler encourage
individuals to sacrifice themselves:
"In [the Aryan], the instinct for self-preservation has reached its
noblest form, since he willingly subordinates his own ego to the life
of the community and, if the hour demands it, even sacrifices it." (7)
"This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to
the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for
every truly human culture." (8)
Racism or racial segregation over racial tolerance.
"All the human culture, all the results of art, science, and
technology that we see before us today, are almost exclusively the
creative product of the Aryan." (9)
"Aryan races -- often absurdly small numerically -- subject foreign
peoples, and then… develop the intellectual and organizational
capacities dormant within them." (10)
"If beginning today all further Aryan influence on Japan should stop…
Japan's present rise in science and technology might continue for a
short time; but even in a few years the well would dry up… the present
culture would freeze and sink back into the slumber from which it
awakened seven decades ago by the wave of Aryan culture." (11)
"Every racial crossing leads inevitably sooner or later to the decline
of the hybrid product…" (12)
"It is the function above all of the Germanic states first and
foremost to call a fundamental halt to any further
bastardization." (13)
"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction
of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the
purity of our blood…" (14)
Eugenics over freedom of reproduction
"The folkish philosophy of life must succeed in bringing about that
nobler age in which men no longer are concerned with breeding dogs,
horses, and cats, but in elevating man himself…" (15)
"The folkish state must make up for what everyone else today has
neglected in this field. It must set race in the center of all life.
It must take care to keep it pure… It must see to it that only the
healthy beget children; that there is only one disgrace: despite one's
own sickness and deficiencies, to bring children into the world, and
one highest honor: to renounce doing so. And conversely it must be
considered reprehensible: to withhold healthy children from the
nation. Here the state… must put the most modern medical means in the
service of this knowledge. It must declare unfit for propagation all
who are in any way visibly sick or who have inherited a disease and
therefore pass it on…" (16)
Merit over equality.
"The best state constitution and state form is that which, with the
most unquestioned certainty, raises the best minds in the national
community to leading position and leading influence. But as in
economic life, the able men cannot be appointed from above, but must
struggle through for themselves…" (17)
"It must not be lamented if so many men set out on the road to arrive
at the same goal: the most powerful and swiftest will in this way be
recognized, and will be the victor." (p. 512.)
Competition over cooperation.
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to
fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." (18)
"It must never be forgotten that nothing that is really great in this
world has ever been achieved by coalitions, but that it has always
been the success of a single victor. Coalition successes bear by the
very nature of their origin the germ of future crumbling, in fact of
the loss of what has already been achieved. Great, truly world-shaking
revolutions of a spiritual nature are not even conceivable and
realizable except as the titanic struggles of individual formations,
never as enterprises of coalitions." (19)
"The idea of struggle is old as life itself, for life is only
preserved because other living things perish through struggle… In this
struggle, the stronger, the more able, win, while the less able, the
weak, lose. Struggle is the father of all things… It is not by the
principles of humanity that man lives or is able to preserve himself
in the animal world, but solely by means of the most brutal struggle…
If you do not fight for life, then life will never be won." (20)
Power politics and militarism over pacifism.
Allan Bullock, probably the world's greatest Hitler historian, sums up
Hitler's political method in one sentence:
"Stripped of their romantic trimmings, all Hitler's ideas can be
reduced to a simple claim for power which recognizes only one
relationship, that of domination, and only one argument, that of
force." (21)
The following quotes by Hitler portray his rather stunning contempt
for pacifism:
"If the German people in its historic development had possessed that
herd unity [defined here by Hitler as racial solidarity] which other
peoples enjoyed, the German Reich today would doubtless be mistress of
the globe. World history would have taken a different course, and no
one can distinguish whether in this way we would not have obtained
what so many blinded pacifists today hope to gain by begging, whining
and whimpering: a peace, supported not by the palm branches of
tearful, pacifist female mourners, but based on the victorious sword
of a master people, putting the world into the service of a higher
culture." (22)
"We must clearly recognize the fact that the recovery of the lost
territories is not won through solemn appeals to the Lord or through
pious hopes in a League of Nations, but only by force of arms." (23)
"In actual fact the pacifistic-humane idea is perfectly all right
perhaps when the highest type of man has previously conquered and
subjected the world to an extent that makes him the sole ruler of this
earth… Therefore, first struggle and then perhaps pacifism." (24)
One-person rule or self-rule over democracy.
"The young [Nazi] movement is in its nature and inner organization
anti-parliamentarian; that is, it rejects… a principle of majority
rule in which the leader is degraded to the level of mere executant of
other people's wills and opinion." (25)
"The [Nazi party] should not become a constable of public opinion, but
must dominate it. It must not become a servant of the masses, but
their master!" (26)
"By rejecting the authority of the individual and replacing it by the
numbers of some momentary mob, the parliamentary principle of majority
rule sins against the basic aristocratic principle of Nature…" (27)
"For there is one thing we must never forget… the majority can never
replace the man. And no more than a hundred empty heads make one wise
man will an heroic decision arise from a hundred cowards." (28)
"There must be no majority decisions, but only responsible persons,
and the word 'council' must be restored to its original meaning.
Surely every man will have advisers by his side, but the decision will
be made by one man." (29)
"When I recognized the Jew as the leader of the Social Democracy, the
scales dropped from my eyes." (30)
"The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism…" (31)
"Only a knowledge of the Jews provides the key with which to
comprehend the inner, and consequently real, aims of Social
Democracy." (32)
Capitalism over Marxism.
Bullock writes of Hitler's views on Marxism:
"While Hitler's attitude towards liberalism was one of contempt,
towards Marxism he showed an implacable hostility… Ignoring the
profound differences between Communism and Social Democracy in
practice and the bitter hostility between the rival working class
parties, he saw in their common ideology the embodiment of all that he
detested -- mass democracy and a leveling egalitarianism as opposed to
the authoritarian state and the rule of an elite; equality and
friendship among peoples as opposed to racial inequality and the
domination of the strong; class solidarity versus national unity;
internationalism versus nationalism." (33)
As Hitler himself would write:
"The German state is gravely attacked by Marxism." (34)
"In the years 1913 and 1914, I… expressed the conviction that the
question of the future of the German nation was the question of
destroying Marxism." (35)
"In the economic sphere Communism is analogous to democracy in the
political sphere." (36)
"The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in
indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the
national intellectual world, destined by them for extinction." (37)
"Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the
Jews." (38)
"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of
Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the
mass of numbers and their dead weight." (39)
Realism over idealism.
Hitler was hardly an "idealist" in the sense that political scientists
use the term. The standard definition of an idealist is someone who
believes that cooperation and peaceful coexistence can occur among
peoples. A realist, however, is someone who sees the world as an
unstable and dangerous place, and prepares for war, if not to deter
it, then to survive it. It goes without saying that Hitler was one of
the greatest realists of all time. Nonetheless, Hitler had his own
twisted utopia, which he described:
"We are not simple enough, either, to believe that it could ever be
possible to bring about a perfect era. But this relieves no one of the
obligation to combat recognized errors, to overcome weaknesses, and
strive for the ideal. Harsh reality of its own accord will create only
too many limitations. For that very reason, however, man must try to
serve the ultimate goal, and failures must not deter him, any more
than he can abandon a system of justice merely because mistakes creep
into it…" (40)
"The same boy who feels like throwing up when he hears the tirades of
a pacifist 'idealist' is ready to give up his life for the ideal of
his nationality." (41)
Nationalism over internationalism.
"The nationalization of our masses will succeed only when… their
international poisoners are exterminated." (42)
"The severest obstacle to the present-day worker's approach to the
national community lies not in the defense of his class interests, but
in his international leadership and attitude which are hostile to the
people and the fatherland." (43)
"Thus, the reservoir from which the young [Nazi] movement must gather
its supporters will primarily be the masses of our workers. Its work
will be to tear these away from the international delusion… and lead
them to the national community…" (44)
Exclusiveness over inclusiveness.
"Thus men without exception wander about in the garden of Nature; they
imagine that they know practically everything and yet with few
exceptions pass blindly by one of the most patent principles of
Nature: the inner segregation of the species of all living beings on
earth." (45)
"The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this
world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which,
fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its
will against all others." (46)
Meat-eating over vegetarianism.
It may seem ridiculous to include this issue in a review of Hitler's
politics, but, believe it or not, conservatives on the Internet
frequently equate Hitler's vegetarianism with the vegetarianism
practised by liberals concerned about the environment and the ethical
treatment of animals.
Hitler's vegetarianism had nothing to do with his political beliefs.
He became a vegetarian shortly after the death of his girlfriend and
half-niece, Geli Raubal. Their relationship was a stormy one, and it
ended in her apparent suicide. There were rumors that Hitler had
arranged her murder, but Hitler would remain deeply distraught over
her loss for the rest of his life. As one historian writes:
"Curiously, shortly after her death, Hitler looked with disdain on a
piece of ham being served during breakfast and refused to eat it,
saying it was like eating a corpse. From that moment on, he refused to
eat meat." (47)
Hitler's vegetarianism, then, was no more than a phobia, triggered by
an association with his niece's death.
Gun ownership over gun control
Perhaps one of the pro-gun lobby's favorite arguments is that if
German citizens had had the right to keep and bear arms, Hitler would
have never been able to tyrannize the country. And to this effect, pro-
gun advocates often quote the following:
"1935 will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation
has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more
efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." -
Adolf Hitler
However, this quote is almost certainly a fraud. There is no reputable
record of him ever making it: neither at the Nuremberg rallies, nor in
any of his weekly radio addresses. Furthermore, there was no reason
for him to even make such a statement; for Germany already had strict
gun control as a term of surrender in the Treaty of Versailles. The
Allies had wanted to make Germany as impotent as possible, and one of
the ways they did that was to disarm its citizenry. Only a handful of
local authorities were allowed arms at all, and the few German
citizens who did possess weapons were already subject to full gun
registration. Seen in this light, the above quote makes no sense
whatsoever.
The Firearms Policy Journal (January 1997) writes:
"The Nazi Party did not ride to power confiscating guns. They rode to
power on the inability of the Weimar Republic to confiscate their
guns. They did not consolidate their power confiscating guns either.
There is no historical evidence that Nazis ever went door to door in
Germany confiscating guns. The Germans had a fetish about paperwork
and documented everything. These searches and confiscations would have
been carefully recorded. If the documents are there, let them be
presented as evidence."
On April 12, 1928, five years before Hitler seized power, Germany
passed the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law substantially
tightened restrictions on gun ownership in an effort to curb street
violence between Nazis and Communists. The law was ineffectual and
poorly enforced. It was not until March 18, 1938 -- five years after
Hitler came to power -- that the Nazis passed the German Weapons Law,
their first known change in the firearm code. And this law actually
relaxed restrictions on citizen firearms.
Common sense over theory or science.
Hitler was notorious for his anti-intellectualism:
"The youthful brain should in general not be burdened with things
ninety-five percent of which it cannot use and hence forgets again… In
many cases, the material to be learned in the various subjects is so
swollen that only a fraction of it remains in the head of the
individual pupil, and only a fraction of this abundance can find
application, while on the other hand it is not adequate for the man
working and earning his living in a definite field." (48)
"Knowledge above the average can be crammed into the average man, but
it remains dead, and in the last analysis sterile knowledge. The
result is a man who may be a living dictionary but nevertheless falls
down miserably in all special situations and decisive moments in
life." (49)
"The folkish state must not adjust its entire educational work
primarily to the inoculation of mere knowledge, but to the breeding of
absolutely healthy bodies. The training of mental abilities is only
secondary. And here again, first place must be taken by the
development of character, especially the promotion of will-power and
determination, combined with the training of joy in responsibility,
and only in last place comes scientific schooling." (50)
"A people of scholars, if they are physically degenerate, weak-willed
and cowardly pacifists, will not storm the heavens, indeed, they will
not be able to safeguard their existence on this earth." (51)
Pragmatism over principle.
"The question of the movement's inner organization is one of
expediency and not of principle." (52)
Religion over secularism.
Hitler's views on religion were complex. Although ostensibly an
atheist, he considered himself a cultural Catholic, and frequently
evoked God, the Creator and Providence in his writings. Throughout his
life he would remain an envious admirer of the Christian Church and
its power over the masses. Here is but one example:
"We can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its
doctrinal edifice… comes into collision with exact science and
research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one
little syllable of its dogmas. It has recognized quite correctly that
its power of resistance does not lie in its lesser or greater
adaptation to the scientific findings of the moment, which in reality
are always fluctuating, but rather in rigidly holding to dogmas once
established, for it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body
the character of faith. And so it stands today more firmly than
ever." (53)
Hitler also saw a useful purpose for the Church:
"The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely
for the masses, [religious] faith is often the sole foundation of a
moral attitude… For the political man, the value of a religion must be
estimated less by its deficiencies than by the virtue of a visibly
better substitute. As long as this appears to be lacking, what is
present can be demolished only by fools or criminals." (54)
Hitler thus advocated freedom of religious belief. Although he would
later press churches into the service of Nazism, often at the point of
a gun, Hitler did not attempt to impose a state religion or mandate
the basic philosophical content of German religions. As long as they
did not interfere with his program, he allowed them to continue
fuctioning. And this policy was foreshadowed in his writings:
"For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of
his people must always remain inviolable; or else he has no right to
be in politics…" (55)
"Political parties have nothing to do with religious problems, as long
as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and
ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the
scheming of political parties." (56)
"Worst of all, however, is the devastation wrought by the misuse of
religious conviction for political ends." (57)
"Therefore, let every man be active, each in his own denomination if
you please, and let every man take it as his first and most sacred
duty to oppose anyone who in his activity by word or deed steps
outside the confines of his religious community and tries to butt into
the other." (58)
Hitler was raised a Catholic, even going to school for two years at
the monastery at Lambauch, Austria. As late as 24 he still called
himself a Catholic, but somewhere along the way he became an atheist.
It is highly doubtful that this was an intellectual decision, as a
reading of his disordered thoughts in Mein Kampf will attest. The
decision was most likely a pragmatic one, based on power and personal
ambition. Bullock reveals an interesting anecdote showing how these
considerations worked on the young Hitler. After five years of eking
out a miserable existence in Vienna and four years of war, Hitler
walked into his first German Worker's Party meeting:
"'Under the dim light shed by a grimy gas-lamp I could see four people
sitting around a table…' As Hitler frankly acknowledges, this very
obscurity was an attraction. It was only in a party which, like
himself, was beginning at the bottom that he had any prospect of
playing a leading part and imposing his ideas. In the established
parties there was no room for him, he would be a nobody." (59)
Hitler probably realized that a frustrated artist and pipe-dreamer
like himself would have no chance of achieving power in the world-
wide, 2000-year old Christian Church. It was most likely for this
reason that he rejected Christianity and pursued a political life
instead. Yet, curiously enough, he never renounced his membership in
the Catholic Church, and the Church never excommunicated him. Nor did
the Church place his Mein Kampf on the Index of Prohibited Books, in
spite of its knowledge of his atrocities. Later the Church would come
under intense criticism for its friendly and cooperative relationship
with Hitler. A brief review of this history is instructive.
In 1933, the Catholic Center Party cast its large and decisive vote in
favor of Hitler's Enabling Bill. This bill essentially gave Chancellor
Hitler the sweeping dictatorial powers he was seeking. Historian
Guenter Lewy describes a meeting between Hitler and the German
Catholic authorities shortly afterwards:
"On 26 April 1933 Hitler had a conversation with Bishop Berning and
Monsignor Steinmann [the Catholic leadership in Germany]. The subject
was the common fight against liberalism, Socialism and Bolshevism,
discussed in the friendliest terms. In the course of the conversation
Hitler said that he was only doing to the Jews what the church had
done to them over the past fifteen hundred years. The prelates did not
contradict him." (60)
As anyone familiar with Christian history knows, the Church has always
been a primary source of anti-Semitism. Hitler's anti-Semitism
therefore found a receptive audience among Catholic authorities. The
Church also had an intense fear and hatred of Russian communism, and
Hitler's attack on Russia was the best that could have happened. The
Jesuit Michael Serafin wrote: "It cannot be denied that [Pope] Pius
XII's closest advisors for some time regarded Hitler's armoured
divisions as the right hand of God." (61) As Pope Pius himself would
say after Germany conquered Poland: "Let us end this war between
brothers and unite our forces against the common enemy of atheism" --
Russia. (62)
Once Hitler assumed power, he signed a Concordat, or agreement, with
the Catholic Church. Eugenio Pacelli (the man who would eventually
become Pope Pius XII) was the Vatican diplomat who drew up the
Concordat, and he considered it a triumph. In return for promises
which Hitler increasingly broke, the Church dissolved all Catholic
organizations in Germany, including the Catholic Center Party. Bishops
were to take an oath of loyalty to the Nazi regime. Clergy were to see
to the pastoral care of Germany's armed forces (regardless of what
those armed forces did). (63)
The Concordat eliminated all Catholic resistance to Hitler; after
this, the German bishops gave Hitler their full and unqualified
support. A bishops' conference at Fulda, 1933, resulted in agreement
with Hitler's case for extending Lebensraum, or German territory. (64)
Bishop Bornewasser told a congregation of Catholic young people at
Trier: "With our heads high and with firm steps we have entered the
new Reich and are ready to serve it body and soul." (65) Vicar-General
Steinman greeted each Berlin mass with the shout, "Heil Hitler!" (66)
Hitler, on the other hand, kept up his attack on the Church. Nazi
bands stormed into the few remaining Catholic institutions, beat up
Catholic youths and arrested Catholic officials. The Vatican was
dismayed, but it did not protest. (67) In some instances, it was hard
to tell if the Church supported its own persecution. Hitler muzzled
the independent Catholic press (about 400 daily papers in 1933) and
subordinated it to Goebbels' Ministry of Propaganda and Enlightenment.
Yet soon the Catholic Press was doing more than what the Nazis
required of it -- for example, coordinating their Nazi propaganda to
prepare the people for the 1940 offensive against the West. (68)
Throughout the war, the Catholic press would remain one of the Third
Reich's best disseminators of propaganda.
Pacelli became the new Pope Pius XII in 1939, and he immediately
improved relations with Hitler. He broke protocol by personally
signing a letter in German to Hitler expressing warm hopes of friendly
relations. Shortly afterwards, the Church celebrated Hitler's birthday
by ringing bells, flying swastika flags from church towers and holding
thanksgiving services for the Fuhrer. (69) Ringing church bells to
celebrate and affirm the bishops' allegiance to the Reich would become
quite common throughout the war; after the German army conquered
France, the church bells rang for an entire week, and swastikas flew
over the churches for ten days.
But perhaps the greatest failure of Pope Pius XII was his silence over
the Holocaust, even though he knew it was in progress. Although there
are many heroic stories of Catholics helping Jews survive the
Holocaust, they do not include Pope Pius, the Holy See, or the German
Catholic authorities. When a reporter asked Pius why he did not
protest the liquidation of the Jews, the Pope answered, "Dear friend,
do not forget that millions of Catholics are serving in the German
armies. Am I to involve them in a conflict of conscience?" (70) As
perhaps the world's greatest moral leader, he was charged with
precisely that responsibility.
The history of Hitler and the Church reveals a relationship built on
mutual distrust and philosophical rejection, but also shared goals,
benefits, admiration, envy, friendliness, and ultimate alliance.
Return to Overview
Endnotes:
1. William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (New York:
Simon & Schuster, 1960), p. 263.
2. Ibid., p. 143.
3. Ibid., p. 264.
4. Hitler, quoted in Alan Bullock, Hitler: A Study in Tyranny,
abridged edition, (New York: HarperCollins, 1971), p. 228.
5. Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, trans. by Ralph Manheim (Boston: Houghton
Mifflin Company, 1962), pp. 393-4.
6. Ibid., p. 398.
7. Ibid., p. 297.
8. Ibid., p. 298.
9. Ibid., p. 290.
10. Ibid., pp. 291-2.
11. Ibid., p. 291.
12. Ibid., p. 401.
13. Ibid., p. 402.
14. Ibid., p. 214.
15. Ibid., p. 405.
16. Ibid., p. 404.
17. Ibid., p. 449.
18. Ibid., p. 289.
19. Ibid., p. 516-17.
20. Quoted in Bullock, pp. 11-12.
21. Ibid., p. 230.
22. Hitler, p. 396.
23. Ibid., p. 627.
24. Ibid., p. 288.
25. Ibid., p. 344.
26. Ibid., p. 465.
27. Ibid., p. 81.
28. Ibid., p. 82.
29. Ibid., p. 449.
30. Ibid., p. 60.
31. Ibid., p. 78
32. Ibid., p. 51.
33. Bullock, p. 228-9.
34. Hitler, p. 535.
35. Ibid., p. 155.
36. Quoted in Bullock, p. 102.
37. Hitler, p. 376.
38. Ibid., p. 382.
39. Ibid., p. 65.
40. Ibid., p. 437.
41. Ibid., p. 299.
42. Ibid., p. 338.
43. Ibid., p. 340.
44. Ibid., p. 340.
45. Ibid., p. 284.
46. Ibid., p. 351.
47. The History Place, "The Rise of Adolf Hitler: Success and a
Suicide," http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/success.htm
48. Hitler, p. 418.
49. Ibid., p. 429.
50. Ibid., p. 408.
51. Ibid., p. 408.
52. Ibid., p. 346.
53. Ibid., p. 459.
54. Ibid., p. 267.
55. Ibid., p. 116.
56. Ibid., p. 116.
57. Ibid., p. 268.
58. Ibid., p. 563.
59. Bullock, p. 35.
60. Guenter Lewy, The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany (London and New
York) 1964, p. 50ff.
61. Friedrich Heer, God's First Love (New York: Weybright and Talley,
1967), p. 320, citing Lewy, pp. 249-250; see also Falconi, Carlo, Il
silenzio di Pio XII (Milan) 1965.
62. Heer, p. 319.
63. Lewy, p. 57 ff.
64. Ibid., p. 94 ff.
65. Ibid., p. 100f.
66. Ibid., p. 105.
67. Heer, p. 310.
68. Heer, p. 110.
69. Giovannetti, A., Der Vatikan und der Krieg (Cologne) 1961.
70. Lewy, p. 304.
cuh...@webtv.net
that married Irish woman wayyyyyy over yonder across the big pond,
favorite movie.
Yeah, in fact of the business,,,, I have never been to the Philipines
before, but if it is anything like the weather in S'gom, you almost can
not live without air conditioning.I didn't have airconditioning over
there.I had an electric fan hanging with a coathanger at head of my
bunk.Every day and every night, hot muggy humid weather, all year
long.It never cools down.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
to buy a loaf of bread.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
store about a mile and a half (Highway 80) West of doggy's couch.They
sell day old bread and cakes and pastries.Many years ago, I drove a
Sunbeam (Don't Say Bread, Say Sunbeam!) bread truck for Sunbeam
Bakery.Those Star Markets/food stores, we used to use a Magic Marker and
mark on the ends of the 1 1/4 pound loaves of sliced sandwich bread,
2/39.
Two loaves for 39 cents.Of course the Star Market food stores was
getting a kickback from Sunbeam Bakery in Vicksburg,Missy Sippy.
Old radio commercials,
Doo bee doo bee doo bee doo bee boop boop boop, Starrrrrr Values you
will see,,,, shopping at Star Grocery.Sunbeam Bread, two for thirty nine
cents.
cuhulin
dave
They were way more fun before they started putting guards around them.
dave
Yeah. That's the angle, see?
bpnjensen
> On 03/24/2011 10:00 PM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Weimar Republic, it took a whole wheelbarrow load of German Marks just
> > to buy a loaf of bread.
> > cuhulin
>
> Yeah. That's the angle, see?
That reminds me - I need a wheelbarrow.
cuh...@webtv.net
Lowe's store! I bought one of them about three years ago.The wooden
handles are made of some kind of cheap lightweight no damn good wood
from China, or somewhere in Asia.One of the handles on my cheapo Lowe's
wheelbarrow disintergrated and BROKE in two pieces! I am NOT lieing at
all.
You want a Quakerator? Get a good running horizontal shaft one cylinder
gas engine, about 10 - 12 Horsepower.Mount it on a thick wood board.Get
a good cheap alternator at an auto junk yard.Put some little wheels and
a junk lawn mower handle on the board.You can figure it out, Rig it up.
cuhulin, Quakerators R US
RHF
> On Mar 24, 11:36 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> Once in power, Hitler showed his true colors by promptly breaking all
> his promises to workers. The Nazis abolished trade unions, collective
> bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the "Labor
> Front" replaced the old trade unions, but it was an instrument of the
> Nazi party and did not represent workers. According to the law that
> created it, "Its task is to see that every individual should be able…
> to perform the maximum of work." Workers would indeed greatly boost
> their productivity under Nazi rule. But they also became exploited.
> Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an
> hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for
> unskilled labor. (3) Yet workers did not protest. This was partly
> because the Nazis had restored order to the economy, but an even
> bigger reason was that the Nazis would have cracked down on any
> protest.
-was- US National Standard of Labor Equality For All
+ Labor Justice For All -by- RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5eed059c6527317e
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ridden by your Grandma in a NAZI Uniform ?
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Reply from You . . .
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Your Are a Liberal Democrat Pretending Not To
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privatization was started by the nazis to skew upwards the income of
the super wealthy:republican Rick Scott's Medicaid Overhaul to Benefit…
Rick Scott?
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2006/09/the_origins_of_.html
Monday, September 11, 2006
The Origins of the Term "Privatization"
Michael Perelman on the origins of the term "privatization." I first
met Michael many, many years ago as an undergraduate at CSU Chico
where he was teaching:
The Nazi Heritage of Privatization, by Michael Perelman: Privatization
is very popular among laissez-faire types today. The recent issue of
the Journal of Economic Perspectives offers a ... tale in which the
term privatization is falsely credited to Peter Drucker. In fact,
Nazis coined the term. Their intent was to skew the distribution of
income toward the rich, with the objective of reducing consumption.
After all, the rich have a lower marginal propensity to consume.
The term seems to have been first introduced into academic social
science by Maxine Yaple Sweezy, wife of the distinguished Marxist
economist, Paul Sweezy.
Bel, Germa'. 2006. ""The Coining of "Privatization" and Germany's
National Socialist Party." Journal of Economic Perspectives, 20: 3
(Summer): pp. 187-94 [author web page link]: 187-8: "The standard
story on the coining of "privatization" reports that in 1969 Peter
Drucker used the term "reprivatization" in the sense that economists
understand it today. In The Age of Discontinuity (1969, p. 229),
Drucker makes a negative appraisal on the managerial capabilities of
the public sector: "Government is a poor manager …. It has no choice
but to be 'bureaucratic.'" Drucker's (p. 233) analysis of how
government works leads him to what he takes as "the main lesson of the
last fifty years: the government is not a doer." Thus, Drucker (p.
234) proposed adopting a "systematic policy of using the other, the
nongovernmental institutions of the society of organizations, for the
actual 'doing,' i.e., for performance, operations, execution. Such a
policy might be called 'reprivatization.'" Drucker referred to
"reprivatization" because he proposed giving back to the private
sector executive responsibilities that had been private before the
public sector took them over through nationalization and
municipalization starting in the last decades of the nineteenth
century."
189-90: "In the late 1930s and the early 1940s, a number of works were
devoted to the analysis of economic policy in Germany under the rule
of the National Socialist Party. One major work was Maxine Yaple
Sweezy's (1941) The Structure of the Nazi Economy. Sweezy stated that
industrialists supported Hitler's accession to power and his economic
policies: "In return for business assistance, the Nazis hastened to
give evidence of their good will by restoring to private capitalism a
number of monopolies held or controlled by the state" (p. 27). This
policy implied a large-scale program by which "the government
transferred ownership to private hands" (p. 28). One of the main
objectives for this policy was to stimulate the propensity to save,
since a war economy required low levels of private consumption. High
levels of savings were thought to depend on inequality of income,
which would be increased by inequality of wealth. This, according to
Sweezy (p. 28), "was thus secured by 'reprivatization' …. The
practical significance of the transference of government enterprises
into private hands was thus that the capitalist class continued to
serve as a vessel for the accumulation of income. Profit-making and
the return of property to private hands, moreover, have assisted the
consolidation of Nazi party power." Sweezy (p. 30) again uses the
concept when giving concrete examples of transference of government
ownership to private hands: "The United Steel Trust is an outstanding
example of 'reprivatization.'" This may be the first use of the term
"reprivatization" in the academic literature in English, at least
within the domain of the social sciences."
192-3: "The primary modern argument against privatization is that it
only enriches and entrenches business and political elites, without
benefiting consumers or taxpayers. The discussion here suggests a rich
historical irony: these modern arguments against privatization are
strikingly similar to the arguments made in favor of privatization in
Germany in the 1930s. As Sweezy (1941) and Merlin (1943) explicitly
point out, German privatization of the 1930s was intended to benefit
the wealthiest sectors and enhance the economic position and political
support of the elite. Of course, this historical connection does not
prove that privatization is always a sound or an unsound policy, only
that the effects of privatization may depend considerably on the
political, social and economic contexts. German privatization in the
1930s differed from the privatization of Volkswagen in the 1950s, and
both of these situations differ from, say, the British privatizations
of the 1980s, the Russian privatizations of the 1990s, or the
privatizations across Latin America over the last two decades."
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http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/rick-scott-florida-medicaid-solantic
POLITICS
→ Health Care, Politics, Top Stories
Rick Scott's Medicaid Overhaul to Benefit…Rick Scott?
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Florida's governor is pushing a privatization plan that could be a
major boon for health care companies. Like his.
— By Suzy Khimm
•
•
• Fri Mar. 25, 2011 12:01 AM PDT
• Republican governor Rick Scott's push to privatize Medicaid in
Florida is highly controversial—not least because the health care
business Scott handed over to his wife when he took office could reap
a major profit if the legislation becomes law.
• Scott and Florida Republicans are currently trying to enact a
sweeping Medicaid reform bill that would give HMOs and other private
health care companies unprecedented control over the government health
care program for the poor. Among the companies that stand to benefit
from the bill is Solantic, a chain of urgent-care clinics aimed at
providing emergency services to walk-in customers. The Florida
governor founded Solantic in 2001, only a few years after he resigned
as the CEO of hospital giant Columbia/HCA amid a massive Medicare
fraud scandal. In January, he transferred his $62 million stake in
Solantic to his wife, Ann Scott, a homemaker involved in various
charitable organizations.
• Florida Democrats and independent legal experts say this handover
hardly absolves Scott of a major conflict of interest. As part of a
federally approved pilot program that began in 2005, certain Medicaid
patients in Florida were allowed to start using their Medicaid dollars
at private clinics like Solantic. The Medicaid bill that Scott is now
pushing would expand the pilot privatization program to the entire
state of Florida, offering Solantic a huge new business opportunity.
• "This is a conflict of interest that raises a serious ethical
issue," says Marc Rodwin, a medical ethics professor at Suffolk
University Law School in Boston. "The public should be thinking and
worrying about this."
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
• With Scott's blessing, the Florida statehouse is currently
hammering out the final details of the Medicaid bill, with a vote
expected in the upcoming weeks. In the meantime, Scott has moved
forward on another front that could also bring new business to
Solantic. On Tuesday, he signed an executive order requiring random
drug testing of many state employees and applicants for state jobs.
He's also urged state legislators to pass a similar bill that would
require drug testing of poor Floridians applying for welfare.
• Among the services that Solantic offers: drug testing.
• "These changes to Medicaid are basically nothing but a business
plan for Rick Scott's Solantic," says Florida Democratic Party
spokesman Eric Jotkoff.
• Scott's office dismiss ethics questions over the governor's
Solantic ties without further elaboration. "The claims of a conflict
of interest are incorrect and baseless," Brian Hughes, Scott's deputy
communications director, responds in an email. When pressed by local
reporters, Scott also glosses over the issue. "I believe in the
principle that if you have more competition it will drive down the
prices," Scott told the St. Petersburg Times last week when asked
about his wife's shares in Solantic. "If you give more choices, it's
better for the consumer also to help drive down price…and that's
exactly what I'm going to do as governor."
• Florida Democrats have blasted the governor over the controversy.
"These changes to Medicaid are basically nothing but a business plan
for Rick Scott's Solantic," says Eric Jotkoff, a spokesman for the
Florida Democratic Party. "It's clear that he stands to greatly profit
from these changes to Medicaid." The Democrats also point to Scott's
past: Columbia/HCA was ultimately forced to pay the biggest Medicare
fraud settlement in history, totaling $1.7 billion, though Scott
denied knowledge of the fraud and escaped being personally penalized.
More recently, Florida's Medicaid system has also been beset by fraud
perpetrated by private health care officials. In January, five former
executives of Wellcare, a managed care company, were indicted by a
grand jury for running a scheme that stole Medicaid money designated
for patients.
• Scott's current proposal aims to save the state $1 billion by
drastically overhauling Medicaid, allowing private managed care
companies to bid for contracts rather than paying traditional fee-for-
services. The majority of Medicaid patients receive care through
private companies and HMOs, but under Florida's bill such firms would
end up having vast new authority over the program, with great leeway
to limit access to services or reduce benefits. The bill would also
put a hard cap on the amount of money that these managed care
companies could spend on Medicaid, which advocates say could
particularly harm disabled and elderly patients who require costlier
long-term care.
• In the past, Florida's Medicaid pilot programs—which tested the
waters for the proposals at the heart of the current bill—have been
plagued by problems. According to a 2008 study by the Georgetown
Center for Children and Families, participants experienced huge delays
and restricted access to necessary treatments, says the center's co-
executive director, Joan Alker. Patients found the new system
bureaucratic and confusing—and HMOs were prone to dropping out without
warning. Dr. Aaron Elkin, president of the Broward County Medical
Association, recently declared the program to be a failure. And
Medicaid patients don't have much better reviews. "It has taken four
months to get a biopsy on a throat cancer due to the impediments
placed by the HMOs for authorizations," one participant in the program
told NPR.
• Scott and Florida Republicans are nevertheless plowing ahead,
arguing that slashing costs is necessary due to the state's $3.6
billion budget deficit. Yet even if the bill passes the Florida
statehouse, it will likely face another roadblock with the Obama
administration, which must approve the biggest changes in the measure.
Though the Bush administration happily green-lighted the pilot program
in 2005, Obama officials are less likely to be amenable to continuing
the troubled program—much less expanding it. The Obama administration,
however, is holding off from commenting on the Florida bill until it
receives the final version, though officials are "aware of some of the
concerns" raised about the pilot programs, says Mary Kahn, a
spokesperson for the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
• Casting himself as a free-market champion, Scott put his opposition
to "Obamacare" at the heart of his campaign. But he could ultimately
stand to gain from one of the federal government's biggest entitlements
—a program that's also set to expand massively under the Affordable
Care Act. Concludes Georgetown's Alker: "It's especially ironic when
people who speak out against government involvement in health care
turn around and profit from it."
• Suzy Khimm is a reporter in the Washington bureau of Mother Jones.
E-mail her with tips and ideas at skhimm (at) motherjones (dot) com.
For more of her stories, click here. Follow her on Twitter here. Get
Suzy Khimm's RSS feed.
• -------------------------------------------------------------
•
• Bel, Germà (2006). "Retrospectives: The Coining of 'Privatisation'
and
Germany's National Socialist Party". Journal of Economic
Perspectives
20 (3): 187–194.
• Two locations
• http://www.ub.edu/graap/JEP.pdf
• http://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.20.3.187
• However, in the next sections I will document the word
"privatization" in
works published in the 1930s and early 1940s on
German economic policy,
and its recurrence in the 1950s and 1960s.
• One major work was Maxine Yaple Sweezy's (1941) The Structure of
the Nazi
Economy. Sweezy stated that industrialists supported
Hitler's accession to
power and his economic policies: "In return
for business assistance, the
Nazis hastened to give evidence of
their good will by restoring to private
capitalism a number of
monopolies held or controlled by the state" (p. 27).
This policy
implied a large-scale program by which "the government
transferred
ownership to private hands" (p. 28). One of the main objectives
for
this policy was to stimulate the propensity to save, since a war
economy
required low levels of private consumption. High levels of
savings were
thought to depend on inequality of income, which would
be increased by
inequality of wealth. This, according to Sweezy (p.
28), "was thus secured
by 'reprivatization'. . . . The practical
significance of the transference
of government enterprises into
private hands was thus that the capitalist
class continued to serve
as a vessel for the accumulation of income.
Profit-making and the
return of property to private hands, moreover, have
assisted the
consolidation of Nazi party power."
cuh...@webtv.net
stuff?
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
In 1923 , Krupp Steelworks (Essen) had printed some sort of local
currency which was accepted by the people in place of the notes issued
by the guvm-mint . Simply amazing .
dave
Relax, it just says that the republicans are giving everything that
isn't tied down to their corporate benefactors.
m II
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> That reminds me - I need a wheelbarrow.
Avoid the cheap Chinese crap like the plague. Check the tire before
buying. Most are TUBELESS. There's no way of fixing a flat easily. With
a tubed wheel, you can at least get a patch kit and a hand pump.
How do they fix tubeless wheelbarrow wheels in places with no big
compressor? Stupid.
mike
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> On 11-03-25 10:37 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > That reminds me - I need a wheelbarrow.
>
> Avoid the cheap Chinese crap like the plague. Check the tire before
> buying. Most are TUBELESS. There's no way of fixing a flat easily. With
> a tubed wheel, you can at least get a patch kit and a hand pump.
>
> How do they fix tubeless wheelbarrow wheels in places with no big
> compressor? Stupid.
>
> mike
Guys with big lungs? ;-)
cuh...@webtv.net
5th Battalion 2nd Regiment) Boot Camp Company at Fort Gordon,Georgia in
1962, his last name was Spangler.He was bragging about German steel.
I reckon Spangler did not know the Best Quality Iron Ore came from the
Briery (spelling) Iron Ore Range/pits in France.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
tubes.Works like a Charm.
cuhulin, We Fix Flats $5.00