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RHF

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Feb 16, 2011, 5:30:17 AM2/16/11
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BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml

BBC-WS World-Wide Shortwave Radio Frequencies :
.
Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
.
South Asia
* South Asia
.
Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
.
Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
.
OOPS : No North & South America Listings
.
More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Info
http://www.short-wave.info/
.
~ RHF
.
.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 16, 2011, 10:45:12 PM2/16/11
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> can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/

>  .
> ~ RHF
>  .
>  .

BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:55:18 AM2/17/11
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Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
place :-)

Message has been deleted

dave

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Feb 17, 2011, 8:14:13 AM2/17/11
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On 02/16/2011 07:45 PM, arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

> BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
> enough ...

HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.

dave

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Feb 17, 2011, 8:23:47 AM2/17/11
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On 02/16/2011 11:34 PM, Hils wrote:
> "The axing of five foreign language services and wholesale retreat from
> shortwave radio – including the end of broadcasts to India, Russia and
> China – will lead to the loss of more than 30 million listeners, a sixth
> of the World Service's global audience of 180 million, the BBC
> estimates. The five language services being shut down – Portuguese for
> Africa, Caribbean English, Macedonian, Serbian and Albanian – have a
> combined audience of 3.4 million."
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-response
>
> (The UK Foreign Office has cut World Service funding by 16%.)

Caribbean English WTF? Good riddance! I can't feature Jamaicans
listening to scratchy shortwave broadcasts so some snooty Englishman can
talk down to them in Pidgin English.

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 10:55:33 AM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 5:14 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

Of which I am included in the last :-)

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:37:36 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 8:14 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

This is an extremely derogatory statement !

dxAce

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:47:44 PM2/17/11
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arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

Rickmers is known to have *issues*.


arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:48:25 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 8:23 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 02/16/2011 11:34 PM, Hils wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > bpnjensen wrote:
> >> On Feb 16, 7:45 pm, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>> BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
> >>> enough ...
>
> >> Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
> >> I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
> >> is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
> >> broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
> >> place :-)
>
> > "The axing of five foreign language services and wholesale retreat from
> > shortwave radio – including the end of broadcasts to India, Russia and
> > China – will lead to the loss of more than 30 million listeners, a sixth
> > of the World Service's global audience of 180 million, the BBC
> > estimates. The five language services being shut down – Portuguese for
> > Africa, Caribbean English, Macedonian, Serbian and Albanian – have a
> > combined audience of 3.4 million."
>
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-re...

>
> > (The UK Foreign Office has cut World Service funding by 16%.)
>
> Caribbean English WTF? Good riddance! I can't feature Jamaicans
> listening to scratchy shortwave broadcasts so some snooty Englishman can
> talk down to them in Pidgin English.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Each area of the Carribean has developed it's own dialect of English .
None of them are classified as pidgin,absolutely not . And BBC-WS
always had a strong presence on AM and FM locally until recently, not
exactly sure what is happening at the present time .

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:49:56 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 1:47 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

That is VERY obvious .

dave

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Feb 17, 2011, 2:51:34 PM2/17/11
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Ya think? The only reason I ever listened was for the content (there are
rarer catches than 500,000 KW Radio Moscow.) Now that the content is
available by other means, I don't have to tie up a $2,000 radio to
listen to the news.

dave

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Feb 17, 2011, 2:55:00 PM2/17/11
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Nothing a damn lighter won't cure...

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 2:54:43 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 11:51 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.

dave

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Feb 17, 2011, 5:00:00 PM2/17/11
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On 02/17/2011 11:54 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

>
> I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
> from the Vatican.

I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 5:34:08 PM2/17/11
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...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)

dxAce

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Feb 17, 2011, 5:51:38 PM2/17/11
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bpnjensen wrote:

Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.

To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dxAce

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Feb 17, 2011, 6:02:36 PM2/17/11
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dxAce wrote:

BTW, Aoki shows 4005 as 10 kW.

>
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA

dxAce

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Feb 17, 2011, 6:14:28 PM2/17/11
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dxAce wrote:

I can hear 4005 (under heavy RTTY QRM) here at 2310.

>
>
> >
> >
> > dxAce
> > Michigan
> > USA

RHF

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Feb 17, 2011, 7:30:06 PM2/17/11
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> can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/

>  .
> ~ RHF
>  .
>  .

I will 'note' that a 'web-search' for BBC Shortwave and
BBC Radio Frequencies now does produce -results-
that lead to the BBC Shortwave Frequencies.

A year or two ago that was not true. You had to dig
to find a link to them. ~ RHF
.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:54:00 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 2:51 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

Well,well,well. Some of us have radios that are priceless,yet it is
not very polite to brag about it ... This is how I look at it .

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:56:10 PM2/17/11
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You mean Middle Aged or just senile ?

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:57:09 PM2/17/11
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That may be my case as well - once in a great while.

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:56:41 PM2/17/11
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Understood. I may have heard it once or twice, but right now there's
a potent RTTY or some such thing right on top of that frequency 24/7.

bpnjensen

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:58:49 PM2/17/11
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On Feb 17, 2:51 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:

FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 12:07:51 AM2/18/11
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>  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East . Internet can
be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 12:24:05 AM2/18/11
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Turn the internet off in America and see what happens! There would be
'Egypts' All Over America, BIG TIME!

Homeless Now Defecating on Waikiki Beach.
http://www.rense.com

That's because they can't find the 'birth certificate.

Knock! Knock!
///Whos there?!!!!///
Kenya
///Kenya who!!!!!??///
Kenya show me the birth certificate?
cuhulin

dxAce

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Feb 18, 2011, 5:48:06 AM2/18/11
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bpnjensen wrote:

Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?


dave

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Feb 18, 2011, 9:02:13 AM2/18/11
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Not priceless, $2,000. I have spent maybe $4,000 total my whole life on
radio hobby stuff. Two years ago I had a Drake I bought with inheritance
and sold for cash. Then I had a Ten-Tec 516 while I got my feet wet in 2
way HF. Then I sold that, put in some Xmas bonus money, and got the
Elecraft, because I don't expect to be around for Cycle 25. This is my
last Solar Max and I'm not going through it without adequate equipment.
I deserve to be spoiled. I've earned it. I am not wealthy by any means.
Since I quit smoking 11 years ago I spend the $200 a month on fun
stuff, as a reward.

"Sometimes you gotta just say "what the fuck"
-Tom Cruise

dave

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Feb 18, 2011, 9:03:56 AM2/18/11
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I mean using superstition to manipulate people; play with fire darkness.

dave

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Feb 18, 2011, 9:09:02 AM2/18/11
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On 02/17/2011 09:07 PM, arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

> This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East . Internet can
> be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .

Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international medium not subject
to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!

D@LS

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Feb 18, 2011, 10:24:33 AM2/18/11
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Damn Straight !
And if you have a microwave gun you know where to point it.

bpnjensen

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:01:53 AM2/18/11
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> Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business. Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:02:22 AM2/18/11
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You can turn old, or new, Microwave ovens into Weapons.I once saw a
website how to do that.

Do you remember the Amana Radar Range? In World War Two in England, some
Americans were setting up a Radar.They had it set on too much power, or
aimed too low/whatever.The nails in that old wooden Aircraft hanger
started getting hot and popping.

http://www.devilfinder.com
How to get any PC, new or old, ready for everyday use Popular Science
cuhulin

dave

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:28:36 AM2/18/11
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My 43 foot fiberglass telescoping mast has RF friendly hardware, in case
I decide to put more than 4 Watts into the #12 solid copper wire up the
middle.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:32:46 AM2/18/11
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bpnjensen

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:40:43 AM2/18/11
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On Feb 18, 8:28 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

We enjoyed popping popcorn with our meteorological radar at Texas Tech
(just kidding ;-)

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 12:56:46 PM2/18/11
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When those Top Queers got their asses handed to them in that little Town
in Alabama! (Miami to N'Awlins road trip) BBC America tee vee channel.
is GOOD!, them Top Queer Queers 'Got out of Dodge!'
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 18, 2011, 11:22:56 PM2/18/11
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> in business.  Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .

bpnjensen

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Feb 19, 2011, 12:35:00 AM2/19/11
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RAI was pretty strong in 2002...but they were not paying attention to
reports any more, either by snail mail or e-mail.

bpnjensen

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Feb 19, 2011, 12:37:10 AM2/19/11
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On Feb 18, 8:22 pm, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:

> Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
> as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .

Looks like DW had the "Cyclops" relay there until 1996 -

http://www.tdp.info/mlt.html

RHF

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Feb 19, 2011, 5:17:11 AM2/19/11
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On Feb 18, 6:09 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 02/17/2011 09:07 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .

- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!

The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switch
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--73323.jpg
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
.
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switch
http://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate-panel/
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
.
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internet
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-
http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_HeretoHelp1.jpg
.
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-
http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
.
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internet
http://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-switch-internet.jpg
.
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafe
http://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lockdown.jpg
.
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaWuav8/s400/china-internet-addi.jpg
.
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelocked.jpg
.
.
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !
http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
.
.

RHF

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Feb 19, 2011, 6:10:41 AM2/19/11
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On Feb 17, 5:14 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 02/16/2011 07:45 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
> > enough ...

- HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams
- at the touch of a button on a WiFi radio about the same
- footprint of an ICF-SW12.

-ps- Then One Wonders Why 'Special-Dave' : You Post
To A Shortwave Radio Listeners [SWL] Newsgroup . . .

Wouldn't an "Internet Radio" Newsgroup be more to you liking. . .
http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=usenet%3Dalt.radio.internet
.
.
- The only people who listen to HFBC in Region 2
- are end-timers, survivalists and other antisocial types.

Dang 'Special-Dave' : Don't Be So Hard On Your-Selfs ;;-}}

Dave : To Me There Is and Always Will Be A 'Flavor'
{Imperfection} That Defines Shortwave Radio Listening
[SWL] and Meeting The Challenge of Listening When
It Ain't Easy {Because You Can & Because You Will It}
The Actual Sound of a Distant Voice From Beyond . . .
-is- Music Fading In-and-Out To My Ears ~ RHF
.
Dave -wrt- 'other antisocial types' within the realm of
Amateur [Ham} Radio with AM & SSB Voice and CW
Mode; where the Opps actually have a Conversation
between each other : Isn't the PSK Logger/Report Opp
sort of one of the ''other antisocial types' too . . .
-especially-when-they-have-the-computer-do-all-the-work-
-in-stand-by-and-remote-and-are-not-in-the-radio-shack-
Sort of Takes The Human Out of Amateur [Ham} Radio
.
IMHO : Not much Fun in trying to Listen to both sides
of the 'digital' "buzz" of a PSK Exchange.
-where-as-
The Conversation between two Humans : It Sounds So...
REAL -and- You Can Understand It To -no-pc-required-
-ps- even the sound of a cw exchange has a discernible
'tone' to both sides when you actively listen.
-again-no-pc-required-
.
.

dxAce

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Feb 19, 2011, 6:48:31 AM2/19/11
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bpnjensen wrote:

I've seen some info that indicates that they sent out some cards after 2002, but it seems as
though they were generic n/d cards.


dxAce

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Feb 19, 2011, 7:24:29 AM2/19/11
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arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

Not sure about BBC, but Deutsche Welle certainly had a relay station.

I have QSL's from IBRA Radio which I think used the DW station, as well as Xandir Malta
which used 9670 back in 1982 for their "Malta Calling" program.

I think Libya also used Malta as a relay for a time as I think I have a QSL for that as
well.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dave

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Feb 19, 2011, 8:52:39 AM2/19/11
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On 02/19/2011 03:10 AM, RHF wrote:

> .
> Dave -wrt- 'other antisocial types' within the realm of

> Amateur [Ham} Radio with AM& SSB Voice and CW


> Mode; where the Opps actually have a Conversation
> between each other : Isn't the PSK Logger/Report Opp
> sort of one of the ''other antisocial types' too . . .
> -especially-when-they-have-the-computer-do-all-the-work-
> -in-stand-by-and-remote-and-are-not-in-the-radio-shack-
> Sort of Takes The Human Out of Amateur [Ham} Radio
> .
> IMHO : Not much Fun in trying to Listen to both sides
> of the 'digital' "buzz" of a PSK Exchange.
>

You don't listen (although it is quite musical); you see text printed on
your computer screen.

My internet radio uses WiFi to connect to the web.

I have 2 HF radios on right now, one on 7035 the the other on 10140. I
have a BCT* winking away in my face, and yes I'm listening to the Beeb
via the web. So fuck you.

Ron

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Feb 19, 2011, 11:18:56 AM2/19/11
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On Feb 19, 4:17 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 6:09 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:> On 02/17/2011 09:07 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> - - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
> - - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
>
> - Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
> - medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
>
> The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
> -praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
>  .
> The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...

> -his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
> -[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
>  .
> We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
> -trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...

>  .
> Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
> -your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
>  .
> Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
>  .
> iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
>  .
> Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
>  .
> Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...

>  .
>  .
> That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
> How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
>  .
>  .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch". Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress. The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended. Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.

See:

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNews&ContentRecord_id=e3633456-5056-8059-7606-
849a53cbff1a

"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth. We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."

The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.

bpnjensen

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> http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...

> 849a53cbff1a
>
> "Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
> empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
> Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
> legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
> down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
> authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
>
> The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.

But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D

Kevin Alfred Strom

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Feb 19, 2011, 1:54:16 PM2/19/11
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On 2/19/2011 12:55 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
> On Feb 19, 8:18 am, Ron<roneal1...@att.net> wrote:
>> On Feb 19, 4:17 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 6:09 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:> On 02/17/2011 09:07 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>> - - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
>>> - - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
>>
>>> - Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
>>> - medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
>>
>>> The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
>>> -praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
>>> .
>>> The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
>>> -his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
>>> -[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
>>> .
>>> We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
>>> -trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
>>> .
>>> Prez Obama The New& Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html

From:

http://www.internetindustrywatch.com/2011/02/internet-kill-switches-big-time-and-small-time/

"In the U.S., Sen. Joe Lieberman (pictured) has drafted, with the
administration’s support, the “Protecting Cyberspace as a National
Asset Act” — a wide-ranging and unprecedented set of legal powers
that would give the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the
authority to regulate, restrict, reroute, or completely cut off
Internet traffic in the U.S. Still, the debunkers say that that’s
still not a “kill switch.” Free speech advocates call that
quibbling, and counter that technological ability follows soon after
legal authority."...

"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so
benign, why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review
of executive branch shutdown orders by the courts?"


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

dave

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Feb 19, 2011, 3:00:22 PM2/19/11
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On 02/19/2011 10:54 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

>
> "But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so benign,
> why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review of executive
> branch shutdown orders by the courts?"
>
>
> With all good wishes,
>
>
> Kevin, WB4AIO.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/01/tunisia-egypt-miami-the-importance-of-internet-choke-points/70415/

D. Peter Maus

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Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.

dave

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Feb 19, 2011, 6:25:29 PM2/19/11
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On 02/19/2011 02:13 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

>>
>
> Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.
>

Whatever that means.

RHF

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On Feb 19, 8:18 am, Ron <roneal1...@att.net> wrote:
> http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...

> 849a53cbff1a
>
> "Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
> empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
> Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
> legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
> down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
> authority would be an affront to our Constitution."

- The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.

RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now
Admit Obama-Care Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

The "Internet Kill Switch" Prez "BO"s {Obama's}
Hand Will Be On It
-marking-the-death-of-internet-freedom-

Blame Obama He's The Prez-A-Duntz

Blame Obama He Promised Hope
-and- We Are Hopeless

Blame Obama He Promised Change
-and- Nothing Has Changed
Obama -is- Bush & Bush -was- Obama
.
Yeah the Obama-Care Death Panels
Blame Obama For Them Too !
* Higher Taxes
* Higher Health Care Costs
* Lower Medical Benefits
* Reduced Hospital Treatment
* Death By Big Government Controls

? Did I Say "Blame Obama" !
{good}
? Did I Write "Blame Obama" !
{gooder}
.
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
.
.

RHF

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Feb 20, 2011, 1:39:41 AM2/20/11
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On Feb 19, 3:25 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 02/19/2011 02:13 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
>
>

- - Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.

- Whatever that means.

'Special-Dave' : It Means You are "Special" ;;-}} ~ RHF

"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so
benign, why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review
of executive branch shutdown orders by the courts?"

One Any Law That Prohibits It's Application and Execution
from "Judicial Review" By The US Federals Courts Is
Un-Constitutional As Written [.]

One Any Law That Prohibits It's Application and Execution
from "Congressional Oversight" By The US Congress Is
Un-Constitutional As Written [.]

The US Constitution Requires and Demands a Three-Party
System of : Governmental Checks-and-Balances [.]

Just Say "NO" To Obama-UN-Ism© and yes,,, Yes...
YES ! ! ! To All American Constitutional-ism ~ RHF
.
A Government 'Of' The People -not-a-president-for-life-
.
A Government 'For' The People -not-a-presidential-over-lord-
.
A Government 'By' The People -not-a-elitist-dictator-
.
.

RHF

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Feb 20, 2011, 2:02:41 AM2/20/11
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- But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D

BpnJ - It Ain't Fear Mongering : If It's True.
-it's-all-too-very-true-


.
The Great and Wonderful Obama "Internet Kill Switch"

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/15edae50dc8efce1
.
Baracking Prez "BO" ! {Obama}
Bring Down The Obama Regime
& Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f018
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8bede4ec17ad2a65
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ac73dc7bb21e640f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3717a455d22b0577


.
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
.

-but- IMHO : Barack H. Obama 'the man' is a NICE Man
and a GOOD American : Just Not a Leader of Presidential
Stature and Ability*. {Weak & Inapt & Ineffective}
* Maybe It's His White House {Wall Street Insiders} Team ?
Conclusion -wrt- Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama}
SEND "BO" HOME TO CHICAGO, IL in 2012 !
"BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks !
.
Jimmy Carter as the US Prez-A-Duntz lost Iran :
Due to his Inaptness and Lack of Leadership.
.
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership :
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
.
.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 20, 2011, 2:56:19 AM2/20/11
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> & Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f018http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8bede4ec17ad2a65http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ac73dc7bb21e640fhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3717a455d22b0577

>  .
> Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
> "Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

> The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
> has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
> -wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
> Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
> * Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
>  .- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .

Ron

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Feb 20, 2011, 4:03:33 AM2/20/11
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> "Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

> The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
> has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
> -wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
> Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
> * Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff

> * "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
>  .
>  .
.
.
Re: RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now Admit Obama-Care
Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

No, NumbNads. Neither one is real. You didn't read ANY of the
comments by Lieberman.

Brenda Ann

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Feb 20, 2011, 4:31:50 AM2/20/11
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wrote in message
news:4ea7033a-539d-4bf0...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...


> Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
> the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
> Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership
> :http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
> * Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
> * Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
> * Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
> * Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
> * Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
> * Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
> * Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
> * Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
> * Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama
> -cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
> .
> .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .


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Aside from that, Obama is not the leader of any of those countries, and has
virtually no say in those country's internal affairs (nor SHOULD he.)


Brenda Ann

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Feb 20, 2011, 4:37:56 AM2/20/11
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"Ron" wrote in message
news:063dd7fa-8710-4483...@s11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...


.
Re: RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now Admit Obama-Care
Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

No, NumbNads. Neither one is real. You didn't read ANY of the
comments by Lieberman.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

All that I have personally read about this "kill switch" denotes that it
applies only to US government assets. i.e. the ability to disconnect the
entire federal government from the internet in the event of an attempted
massive cyber attack. The military already has a separate network that does
not use normal internet links (SIPRNET), along with their normal network
(NIPRNET). The plan is to apparently build such an alternate network for all
government agencies. Basically, if the throw the switch, it would leave the
World Wide Web undisturbed, other than we would no longer have access to
.gov websites.


arthr...@webtv.net

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Feb 20, 2011, 4:45:00 AM2/20/11
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On Feb 20, 4:31 am, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
wrote:
> wrote in messagenews:4ea7033a-539d-4bf0...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
>
>
> > Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
> > the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
> > Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership
> > :http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
> > * Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
> > * Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
> > * Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
> > * Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
> > * Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
> > * Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
> > * Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
> > * Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
> > * Bahrain :  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama
> > -cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
> >  .
> >  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
> approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

>
> Aside from that, Obama is not the leader of any of those countries, and has
> virtually no say in those country's internal affairs (nor SHOULD he.)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

BHO has ENOUGH headaches at home .

RHF

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> > & Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f0...

That's Right We Have To Compare Obama to Carter :
Just to have them both on the same 'relative' Scale
of TOTAL FAILURE as a US Prez-A-Duntz.
-failure--failure-failure-failure-failure-failure-failure-
.
- And an approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .

Isn't Down-Grading Obama 64 Points Below Bush
Overdoing It A Bit Too Much . . . ;;-}}

? Question ? : -history-fact-check-
How Many of America's Allies {Client-States} Did
former prez Bush's : Weakness & Inaptness &
Not Being A Strong Leader Directly Cause Their
Governments To Fall . . .
Let's Make a List :
Ah # 1 was . . . .
.
? Question ? : -history-in-the-making-fact-check-
Where-As Prez Obama's : Weakness & Inaptness &
Not Being A Strong Leader Has/Is/Will Directly Cause
These Governments To Fall . . .
1 - Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
2 - Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
3 - Libya : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
4 - Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
5 - Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
6 - Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
7 - Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
8 - Yemen : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
9 - Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama


-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter

* Russia Knows It !
* China Knows It !
* Saudi Arabia Knows It !
* Iran Knows It !
* Israel Knows It !
* All the Euro-Landers Know It !
* The World Now Knows It
PREZ OBAMA IS WEAK & INAPT & NOT A STRONG LEADER
.
.
Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter :
Weak & Inapt & No Strong Leader
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bec9611a59020153
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Feb 20, 2011, 9:22:12 AM2/20/11
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I already knew about siprnet, now I have to look up niprnet.

You got to NIP it Andy, NIP it in the bud!~ Barney - The Andy Griffith
Show.

The Born in Kenya MOFO has NO Right to say or do Anything in U.S.A.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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USAF Orderd Software To Manage Army Of Fake People
http://www.rense.com
cuhulin

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