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tbz_...@hotmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:13:33 AM4/21/09
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ISTR that cards that affect reactions also affect reaction-type
effects, such as imbued reaction-type powers

Linky using Blind Spot as the example -
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/4c9da4b6dff5b639/a0522bc8e7b41cd7?lnk=gst&q=blind+spot+vs+imbued#a0522bc8e7b41cd7

Will Approximation of Loyalty follow the same template?

Approximation of Loyalty
Action Modifier
Presence, cost 1 blood
Requires a vampire with capacity 7 or more.
pre: Only usable as the action is announced. Choose a vampire with
capacity 6 or less or an ally. That minion cannot block this action.
PRE: Cancel a reaction card played by a vampire with capacity 6 or
less or an ally as it is played (no cost is paid). No more action
modifiers can be played on this action.

It seems clear to me that convictions already on an imbued will be
immune to either blind spot or approximation, since they're not being
played, they're being burned.

Can you confirm I can use approximation of loyalty to cancel an imbued
reaction-type power?

thanks
B

LSJ

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:17:55 AM4/21/09
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tbz_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> ISTR that cards that affect reactions also affect reaction-type
> effects, such as imbued reaction-type powers
>
> Linky using Blind Spot as the example -
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/4c9da4b6dff5b639/a0522bc8e7b41cd7?lnk=gst&q=blind+spot+vs+imbued#a0522bc8e7b41cd7

Use "more options" "individual message" to get a link to the message you're citing:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/df9843dbc7ffd17d

> Will Approximation of Loyalty follow the same template?
>
> Approximation of Loyalty
> Action Modifier
> Presence, cost 1 blood
> Requires a vampire with capacity 7 or more.
> pre: Only usable as the action is announced. Choose a vampire with
> capacity 6 or less or an ally. That minion cannot block this action.
> PRE: Cancel a reaction card played by a vampire with capacity 6 or
> less or an ally as it is played (no cost is paid). No more action
> modifiers can be played on this action.
>
> It seems clear to me that convictions already on an imbued will be
> immune to either blind spot or approximation, since they're not being
> played, they're being burned.

And because they have nothing to do with "Reaction".

> Can you confirm I can use approximation of loyalty to cancel an imbued
> reaction-type power?

Approximation of Loyalty cannot cancel something that's not a card being played
(such as an in-play Power's reaction-type effect). Card text.

jwnew...@bellsouth.net

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:20:23 AM4/21/09
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On Apr 21, 11:13 am, tbz_be...@hotmail.com wrote:
> ISTR that cards that affect reactions also affect reaction-type
> effects, such as imbued reaction-type powers

Not exactly.

> Linky using Blind Spot as the example -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_t...

Imbued are allowed to use powers with a cardtype symbol (such as
reaction) when and only when they are allowed to use cards of that
type. Since Blind Spot denies the imbued the ability to play reaction
cards, it also denies them the ability to use reaction powers.

> Will Approximation of Loyalty follow the same template?
>
> Approximation of Loyalty
> Action Modifier
> Presence, cost 1 blood
> Requires a vampire with capacity 7 or more.
> pre: Only usable as the action is announced. Choose a vampire with
> capacity 6 or less or an ally. That minion cannot block this action.
> PRE: Cancel a reaction card played by a vampire with capacity 6 or
> less or an ally as it is played (no cost is paid). No more action
> modifiers can be played on this action.
>
> It seems clear to me that convictions already on an imbued will be
> immune to either blind spot or approximation, since they're not being
> played, they're being burned.
>
> Can you confirm I can use approximation of loyalty to cancel an imbued
> reaction-type power?

No, because reaction-type powers are not reaction cards. They're just
usable when and only when reaction cards would be playable by that
minion.

-witness1

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