(LSJ) Mokolé Blood, Shilmulo Tarot
floppyzedolfin
Here's today's question :
When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood, and is it
different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
If a copy of the equipment is already in play when the action to equip
is performed (and successful), do you put the cards on the equipment ?
Thanks
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cardtexts :
Mokolé Blood
AKA: Mokole Blood
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Follower of Set
Cost: 1 pool
Unique equipment.
Search your library -{and/or}- ash heap for up to four cards that
require Serpentis [ser] and place them on this card (face down).
Shuffle afterward. You may look at the cards at any time. This
Follower of Set may play a card from this equipment as if from your
hand (requirements and cost apply as usual). When the last card is
removed, burn this equipment.
Shilmulo Tarot
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Ravnos
Unique equipment.
Move the top two cards from your library to this equipment (face
down). You may look at the cards on this equipment at any time. If
this Ravnos is ready and you should draw a card from your library, you
may draw one of these cards instead. During your untap phase, you may
move the top card from your library to this card.
LSJ
> Hello,
> Here's today's question :
> When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood,
When it is successfully played.
> and is it
> different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
> game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
> equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
Just returning to play won't cause the card to be re-played or anything. See
also Incriminating Videotape. So if it is on a vampire who Descends into
Darkness and then later re-enters play, it keeps whatever it has but gains
nothing new for the trip. Likewise for Banishment and being contested.
If it is brought into play "new" (standard equip action, Alastor, Magic of the
Smith), then it gets the cards. Like Incriminating Videotape.
> If a copy of the equipment is already in play when the action to equip
> is performed (and successful), do you put the cards on the equipment ?
Yes. Like the videotape.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> cardtexts :
>
> Mokol� Blood
Juggernaut1981
> floppyzedolfin wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Here's today's question :
> > When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood,
>
> When it is successfully played.
>
> > and is it
> > different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
> > game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
> > equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
>
> Just returning to play won't cause the card to be re-played or anything. See
> also Incriminating Videotape. So if it is on a vampire who Descends into
> Darkness and then later re-enters play, it keeps whatever it has but gains
> nothing new for the trip. Likewise for Banishment and being contested.
>
> If it is brought into play "new" (standard equip action, Alastor, Magic of the
> Smith), then it gets the cards. Like Incriminating Videotape.
>
> > If a copy of the equipment is already in play when the action to equip
> > is performed (and successful), do you put the cards on the equipment ?
>
> Yes. Like the videotape.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks
>
> > --
> > cardtexts :
>
> > AKA: Mokole Blood
> > Cardtype: Equipment
> > Clan: Follower of Set
> > Cost: 1 pool
> > Unique equipment.
> > Search your library -{and/or}- ash heap for up to four cards that
> > require Serpentis [ser] and place them on this card (face down).
> > Shuffle afterward. You may look at the cards at any time. This
> > Follower of Set may play a card from this equipment as if from your
> > hand (requirements and cost apply as usual). When the last card is
> > removed, burn this equipment.
>
> > Shilmulo Tarot
> > Cardtype: Equipment
> > Clan: Ravnos
> > Unique equipment.
> > Move the top two cards from your library to this equipment (face
> > down). You may look at the cards on this equipment at any time. If
> > this Ravnos is ready and you should draw a card from your library, you
> > may draw one of these cards instead. During your untap phase, you may
>
> - Show quoted text -
Side question on Shimulo Tarot
"If this Ravnos is ready and you should draw a card from your library,
you may draw one of these cards instead."
Does this apply to effects that search your library for a card by name
or type or similar? For example, could you Sybil's Tongue a card from
out of your Shimulo Tarot?
The Lasombra
>Side question on Shimulo Tarot
>"If this Ravnos is ready and you should draw a card from your library,
>you may draw one of these cards instead."
>Does this apply to effects that search your library for a card by name
>or type or similar?
No.
>For example, could you Sybil's Tongue a card from
>out of your Shimulo Tarot?
No.
The cards on the Tarot are not in your hand or library and cannot be
targeted by effects which target your hand or library.
LSJ 09/12/2005
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4fbbf73418914ae8
LSJ 04/29/2005
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/a7a34b01f5aa0c27
floppyzedolfin
> floppyzedolfin wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Here's today's question :
> > When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood,
>
> When it is successfully played.
>
> > and is it
> > different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
> > game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
> > equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
>
> Just returning to play won't cause the card to be re-played or anything. See
> also Incriminating Videotape. So if it is on a vampire who Descends into
> Darkness and then later re-enters play, it keeps whatever it has but gains
> nothing new for the trip. Likewise for Banishment and being contested.
>
> If it is brought into play "new" (standard equip action, Alastor, Magic of the
> Smith), then it gets the cards. Like Incriminating Videotape.
You give two ansers here ("When it is successfully played", and "If it
is brought 'new' " ), which are different. Due tu some almost-
unrelated question on the NG, I ran a search for Inscription, and here
is what I found : http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/eb6893a825c5199d
Is this linked ruling still correct?
It seems contrary to the second answer.
LSJ
> On Apr 28, 5:46 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>> floppyzedolfin wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Here's today's question :
>>> When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood,
>> When it is successfully played.
>>
>>> and is it
>>> different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
>>> game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
>>> equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
>> Just returning to play won't cause the card to be re-played or anything. See
>> also Incriminating Videotape. So if it is on a vampire who Descends into
>> Darkness and then later re-enters play, it keeps whatever it has but gains
>> nothing new for the trip. Likewise for Banishment and being contested.
>>
>> If it is brought into play "new" (standard equip action, Alastor, Magic of the
>> Smith), then it gets the cards. Like Incriminating Videotape.
>
> You give two ansers here ("When it is successfully played", and "If it
> is brought 'new' " ), which are different.
They mean the same in this context: when the card is played (whether in the
normal fashion or not).
> Due tu some almost-
> unrelated question on the NG, I ran a search for Inscription, and here
> is what I found : http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/eb6893a825c5199d
> Is this linked ruling still correct?
> It seems contrary to the second answer.
Yes. I overstated the answer above. Alastor doesn't play the card, so it doesn't
grab the extra cards (nor would it attach a minion target to the Videotape).
Blooded Sand
> floppyzedolfin wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 5:46 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> >> floppyzedolfin wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Here's today's question :
> >>> When do you put cards on the Shilmulo Tarot / Mokole Blood,
> >> When it is successfully played.
>
> >>> and is it
> >>> different if it enters play in not-from-hand way (from out of the
> >>> game: Descent into Darkness, put in play from the library: Alastor,
> >>> equipped from the library: Magic of the Smith)?
> >> Just returning to play won't cause the card to be re-played or anything. See
> >> also Incriminating Videotape. So if it is on a vampire who Descends into
> >> Darkness and then later re-enters play, it keeps whatever it has but gains
> >> nothing new for the trip. Likewise for Banishment and being contested.
>
> >> If it is brought into play "new" (standard equip action, Alastor, Magic of the
> >> Smith), then it gets the cards. Like Incriminating Videotape.
>
> > You give two ansers here ("When it is successfully played", and "If it
> > is brought 'new' " ), which are different.
>
> They mean the same in this context: when the card is played (whether in the
> normal fashion or not).
>
> > Due tu some almost-
> > unrelated question on the NG, I ran a search for Inscription, and here
> > Is this linked ruling still correct?
> > It seems contrary to the second answer.
>
> Yes. I overstated the answer above. Alastor doesn't play the card, so it doesn't
> grab the extra cards (nor would it attach a minion target to the Videotape).
however if the vampiore used Alastor to fetch inscrip[tion, as per the
link, and then another minion took it from him via the normal equip
action, would inscriptions text trigger then?
LSJ
No. Like the Videotape.