Janice Yellen is Flunkies' Heroine

[Tom Kunich]

That low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank has told us that the inflation we are seeing is transitory. As in here today and gone tomorrow.

Remember when that brainless puff Flunky told everyone that I couldn't have argued with Janice Yellen because she was FAR too important a person to talk to someone as far down the totem pole as me? That SHE had to be right and I had to be wrong that increasing the money supply for anything other than an increase in GDP couldn't possibly cause inflation.

I went into the local supermarket yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123. I have no financial difficulties but tell us all Frank - does your teachers pension give you inflation correction? Lou, you wanted to know why I wanted so much money? You too are a victim of US inflation though perhaps it hasn't struck deep enough yet to be a pain to all of the people around you. But perhaps you should reflect on the poorer people around you and how they are going to deal with it.

Thar indescribable ass Flunky expects people to believe he is an engineer when one of the very basic things an engineer has to do is bring projects in on time and on budget. That requires at least a basic understanding of economics. So what would make him argue that the first tule of economics doesn't count if you are a government employee?

I am the one that does the cooking and I go to the store for things. So I am the one that sees the inflation up close and personal. I see the older people stuck on social security that can't afford to eat and live in a heatless shed with California us happily declaring a "save the air" day and fining people $200 per incident of having a fire in the fireplace when it is their only source of heat. My PG&E bill for last month was $300 and this month will be more.

Remember the other people around you this Christmas and if you're economically sound think of most of the rest of the world who are not.

You could blame Joe Biden but he is nothing more than a sock puppet being operated by someone else who believes that Joe is going to take the blame for everything. Don't you think that the American people have the right to know who is running this country?

[Frank Krygowski]

On 12/24/2022 10:54 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I went into the local supermarket yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123.

HAHAHAHAHA!

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Ralph Barone]

Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 12/24/2022 10:54 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> I went into the local supermarket yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123.
>
> HAHAHAHAHA!
>

We had a deal at our local supermarket where you could redeem X points and
get a free roast. I grabbed the biggest one in the cooler (price tag said
$47), got it free, then cut it into 4 normal size roasts when I got home.
Maybe Tom was looking at the unicorn roasts instead of the beef ones.

[Tom Kunich]

Or maybe you don't live in California which always sees economic effects first? Do you actually think I would lie about something like that? I just got back from the store. There were no more full size hams lift and two one lb mini hams were $30 or perhaps you think them made from sacred pigs? the only joy this gives me is that it will grow far larger than Frank's retirement and pretty quick he will buy a gun and start robbing little old ladies on the street. He doesn't have the courage to rob a man.

https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/4/messages/AHDEpGkBM9AVY6d6AgWpOOl3o1I?mrdparam=uI5U_.sfY_cvhaLESYaZFEpQUow5o4OBl7L9ep2hWSO6jcdG_Scyi32dRCYEvF10cPMjd58MS.6iAmobQK_hal4Mun1Sm4FSFNHqDu3r0EOcX3L5_6OITMEKbx7_5MzGhIUY2LIdUT9GiG1hfLUdMZq72VHKEPS9cusZ2nsMAG2HRbsenApLtKQnztB5BjTRa1q0.LXatx7_ztRCHjheMdn84Ezy6Kb.2sWnyaNJ6fHm0_fsRfb1MSejYA670SluYs099NsGvoKh.io9XqJ0NZ6L7Dr_BR9SmE1E29P9S3FMFy7PflA-~A

[John B.]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:54:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>That low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal
Reserve Bank has told us that the inflation we are seeing is
transitory. As in here today and gone tomorrow.

Well, of course it is "transitory"
transitory ~ adj 1. lasting a very short time

It is here today and tomorrow it will be greater.

Read a little history and you will see that inflation has taken place
in about every year of U.S. history. The value of $1.00 in 1776 would
purchase goods costing about $34.22 today. An average inflation rate
of 1.45% per year.
https://www.officialdata.org/us/inflation/1776?amount=1

--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:54:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>My PG&E bill for last month was $300 and this month will be more.

My Nov 30, 2022 PG&E statement was $37.15. That's for electricity
only. No natural gas. I cook with electricity and heat with
firewood. The car is not electric. Bathroom and shop heaters are
electric.

PG&E billing and usage history, July 30, 2020 to Nov 30, 2022:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/PG&E-billing-history-03.xlsx>

Older PG&E billing and usage back to 2008:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/PG&E-to-2022-07-16.xlsx>

If you login to the PG&E web site, you can find various usage and
price tracking features to help you figure out where you are burning
your money. For example, hourly electricity usage and temperature:
<https://pge.opower.com/ei/x/energy-usage-details>
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/PGE-usage-sample.jpg>

If you're trying to compare your electric natural gas usage with my
firewood usage: Firewood currently costs about $600/cord. I
typically burn about 2 cords per year. Burn season is about 6 months
long. Therefore:

2 cords/year * $600/cord = $1200/year
$1200 / 6 month-season = $200/month.

At $40/month for electricity, I use:
$40 + $200/month = $240/month during winter (6 mo)
$40/month during spring, summer, and part of fall (6 mo)
Total for year is:
($240/month * 6) + ($40/month * 6) = $1,680/year


--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[Frank Krygowski]

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 8:42:04 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:54:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >My PG&E bill for last month was $300 and this month will be more.
> My Nov 30, 2022 PG&E statement was $37.15. That's for electricity
> only. No natural gas. I cook with electricity and heat with
> firewood. The car is not electric. Bathroom and shop heaters are
> electric.

Our electric bill for last month was $107. That includes charging the electric car.
We heat with gas.

Tom needs to move out of that hellhole. Or at least make efforts to improve his
efficiency in utility use.

When we moved into this house, we had not a lot of money. But I "invested" in
efficiency right from the start - weatherstripping, caulking, adding insulation,
etc. I also heavily modified the fireplace (blower grate, glass doors, outside air
intake, etc.) and used it heavily for a while. Ultimately we replaced the furnace
with a high efficiency condensing model. I plotted graphs of our utility use
(electricity, gas and water) and was very pleased to see them all drop markedly
over time. Our gas bill is something like half of what it was originally.

I think my investment in efficiency paid more than equivalent investments in
stocks, bonds, CDs etc.

Tom could try doing the same, instead of "investing" in or churning bikes he has
trouble reselling.

- Frank Krygowski

[AMuzi]

Greatly increased after formation of the Federal Reserve
System in 1913 which has institutionalized inflation.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Tom Kunich]

The problem with John is that his fund of "truth" comes from his use of Google which is strongly leftist. If you are denied half of the truth and don't understand the other half, you in fact HAVE no understanding.

John may be reasonably intelligent but he most certainly doesn't use what he has. In the things he knows intimately like guns and actual real work, he is far better than Liebermann, Krygowski, Scharf and Flunky but his using Google to get his truth to support those idiots doesn't show him in a descent light.

[John B.]

On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 09:16:47 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich

<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:51:49 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 12/24/2022 6:48 PM, John B. wrote:
>> > On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:54:51 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal
>> > Reserve Bank has told us that the inflation we are seeing is
>> > transitory. As in here today and gone tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Well, of course it is "transitory"
>> > transitory ~ adj 1. lasting a very short time
>> >
>> > It is here today and tomorrow it will be greater.
>> >
>> > Read a little history and you will see that inflation has taken place
>> > in about every year of U.S. history. The value of $1.00 in 1776 would
>> > purchase goods costing about $34.22 today. An average inflation rate
>> > of 1.45% per year.
>> > https://www.officialdata.org/us/inflation/1776?amount=1
>> >
>> Greatly increased after formation of the Federal Reserve
>> System in 1913 which has institutionalized inflation.
>
>The problem with John is that his fund of "truth" comes from his use of Google which is strongly leftist. If you are denied half of the truth and don't understand the other half, you in fact HAVE no understanding.
>

I see... you mean when I google and see a letter from a guy named Tom
entitled "False Arrest
http://sanleandrotalk.voxpublica.org/tag/false-arrest/
it is a leftist posting?

>John may be reasonably intelligent but he most certainly doesn't use what he has. In the things he knows intimately like guns and actual real work, he is far better than Liebermann, Krygowski, Scharf and Flunky but his using Google to get his truth to support those idiots doesn't show him in a descent light.

A interesting statement. Do you mean that there has been no inflation,
until now, in the U.S. since the country began?
--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

While you are not wrong "inflation" is a normal happening as money
becomes more available. If, for example, you make 1 dollar a day then
you are not buying beef roast for $110 (was it?). And equally beef
doesn't cost as much to produce. When minimum salaries are $15/hour
then it is a whole different ball game.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Tom Kunich]

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:51:49 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:

I believe that before the Federal Reserve, they used to only print enough money to cover the money that actually wore out. I'm sure you remember dollar bills that were so thin that they could get lost in your wallet or stick to other dollar bills and you would accidently pay $2 for a $1 item. Good clerks would always rub the bills to make sure they were receiving only the proper amount.

But after the industrial revolution and particularly after the Depression, the lack of paper money was greatly limiting the growth in the economy. I think it was Nixon that took us off of the Gold Standard so that we could put enough paper currency into circulation to allow more or less uninterrupted growth in the economy. But that brought on fools like Yellen.

You must CAREFULLY monitor the Gross Domestic Product and our wonderful government isn't quite clear how to do that. So rather than only printing enough money to cover the increase in the economy, they make a broad generalization and print enough money to cover that increase and a little more in case they are under-guessing. This means that inflation has become part of the economy rather than inflation.

The Secret Service which was originally founded to work with the Department of the Treasury to prevent counterfeiting has done a remarkable job. Initially they used a form of engraving and a type of paper that made it nearly impossible to counterfeit. Now they have changed to conductive paper and I believe encoded electronic chips that banks can read.

But nevertheless outside of this country the overwhelming majority of dollars are in the form of $100 bills. Since this is more than have ever been printed they are obviously still being counterfeited as the older types of bills. Although they cannot reproduce the paper, they are printing the threads into them so that they look real.

[Andre Jute]

Most economists will agree that a certain ***low level*** of inflation is endemic in the modern economy. So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed.
>
Many economists also think that up to 2% of the workforce being temporarily in transition between jobs is actual full employment, and as a consequence, anything between 0% and their chosen number of unemployment is an inflationary symptom of economic mismanagement.
>
How much inflation is that desired symptom of a stable society is a matter of contention. Personally I think that the 2% that many salt water economists will entertain is ludicrously high. But it does matter a good deal what you're used to. In Spain for instance, after the conquest of South America, the inflow of gold from Latin America caused 2% inflation over the course of the 17th century -- in a country which had seen virtually no inflation for a millennium, and it seriously disturbed the balance of power within Spanish society. Contrast this with many nations today whose Finance Ministers would run naked through the streets singing hallelujahs if they could get their nation's inflation down to only 2% per annum.
>
Andre Jute
Given on my own authority
>

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:40:05 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
>
> >
> Most economists will agree that a certain ***low level*** of inflation is endemic in the modern economy. So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed.

She isn't the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot. Jerome Powell is (since 2018- a trump appointee). Yellen is The Secretary of the Treasury. Get your facts straight, you useless welfare case.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 10:54:53 AM UTC-5, tommy the stooge wrote:

First off, you fucking idiot, her name is Janet.

> That low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank has told us that the inflation we are seeing is transitory. As in here today and gone tomorrow.

Second, she's the Secretary of the Treasury, not the Chair of the Federal Reserve. Jerome Powell is the Chair of the Federal Reserve, appointed by your hero trumpy-bear* in 2018.

> Remember when that brainless puff Flunky told everyone that I couldn't have argued with Janice Yellen because she was FAR too important a person to talk to someone as far down the totem pole as me?

You may very well have argued economics with Janice Yellen. That may be part of your confusion. However, you never argued economics with Janet Yellen.

> That SHE had to be right and I had to be wrong that increasing the money supply for anything other than an increase in GDP couldn't possibly cause inflation.

I'd like to see where Janet Yellen ever claimed the increasing the money supply couldn't possibly casue inflation.

> I went into the local supermarket yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123. I have no financial difficulties

From:
http://sanleandrotalk.voxpublica.org/2013/07/20/no-good-deed-goes-unpunished-slpd-handcuffs-good-samaritan-ransacks-his-home-over-100-year-old-gun/

"And who am I? I am retired and living on Social Security."

>
> Thar indescribable ass Flunky expects people to believe he is an engineer when one of the very basic things an engineer has to do is bring projects in on time and on budget. That requires at least a basic understanding of economics.

lol....Project management isn't a 'basic' engineering function, sparky. The fact that you think so only goes to prove how little experience (and education) you really have. Engineering budgets are a project management role - not performed by engineers at a 'basic' level.

> So what would make him argue that the first tule of economics doesn't count if you are a government employee?

lol....can you point to any message I've ever posted that makes such claim?

Gawd yer an idiot....

*https://www.gettrumpybear.com/

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

I was more amused that he claimed someone named 'janice' yellen is the fed chair.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

It must be, after all, _that_ tom kunich wrote "And who am I? I am retired and living on Social Security. "

We all know tommy is making $12K/month off his investments.

[John B.]

That's a good point.
12K a month and complaining about a $110 chunk of beef? Goodness that
is what? 0.9% of his monthly income, or to put it another way, 109
hunks of beef, or 3.6 roast per day :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

I didn't say she's "the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot." You did. What I said was that she's "the boss of the Federal Reserve". You're too poorly educated and informed to grasp the difference, and I'm done educating a moron who in 60 years has learned nothing. Ask Jeff to look up her theoretical administrative and real relationship with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve for you.
>
Andre Jute
Smart people read my exact words. Survivors don't try to put words in my mouth.
>

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:37:33 AM UTC-5, dakota the welfare queen sharted:

> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:07:19 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:40:05 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > Most economists will agree that a certain ***low level*** of inflation is endemic in the modern economy. So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed.
> > She isn't the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot. Jerome Powell is (since 2018- a trump appointee). Yellen is The Secretary of the Treasury. Get your facts straight, you useless welfare case.
> >
> I didn't say she's "the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot." You did.

no, shithead, I said she's the secretary of the treasury. Try taking you head out of your ass before typing.

> What I said was that she's "the boss of the Federal Reserve".

Since you're playing silly semantic games, you wrote she's the "leader", not the boss, and you STILL wrong, she's neither. Jerome Powell is. The "boss" of the fed is the chairman of the fed.

> You're too poorly educated and informed to grasp the difference, real relationship with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve for you. and I'm done educating a moron who in 60 years has learned nothing. Ask Jeff to look up her theoretical administrative and real relationship with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve for you.
> >

Speaking of poorly educated, Here's a high-school freshman civics lessen for you, you stupid insignificant welfare trash.

Janet Yellen is the Secretary of the Treasury. The federal reserve is an autonomous entity within the US government that sets monetary policy. The 'boss' or 'leader' of the fed is the Chair, currently Jerome Powell. The SoT and the Fed work together to manage the countries finances, but the Fed doesn't answer to the Sot, and even operates completely independently from the POTUS. Janet Yellens influence of monetary policy set by the Federal Reserve ends at advice. The Federal Reserve answers _only_ to Congress.

The Federal Reserve board is appointed by POTUS and confirmed by congress. For all intents and purposes, the Fed Chair doesn't have a "boss". Board members can only be removed for "cause", and "cause does _not_ include whether POTUS or the SoT agrees with Fed monetary policy or not.

Why don't you concentrate on making sure you get your next welfare check on time, rather than thinking you're going to school an American on their system of politics and only ending up making a complete moronic ass of yourself. I'm sure you burned through that christmas bonus already.

You really are a complete and insufferable jackass. What I have learned in 60 years is that there are obnoxious arrogant blow-hards like you who despite having their noses rubbed in truth and facts continue to insist they are right when any 9th grade high school student can see you're completely full of shit.

And once again, you'll slink away from me with your tail between your legs because you know trying to engage with me will only result in your further embarrassment.

Gawd you're useless...

[Tom Kunich]

If Flunky had the least courage he could give us his realo name and where he lives. Not doing so demonstrates precisely what he is.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

I have, you brain dead twit. If your newest little stooge friend kitty had the least courage he could give us his real name and where he lives. Not doing so demonstrates precisely what he is.

BTW - show us how "janice" yellen is in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank - I'm dying to see how you and andre connected the dots on that one.....idiots.

[Andre Jute]

>
You have poor reading and comprehension skills, Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister. You quoted what I said only a few lines above where you denied it. Let me extract it for you:
Andre Jute: "So 'Transitory' from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie..."
Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister: *...you wrote she's the "leader", not the boss..."
>
I give the Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister's angry post below in full, without any cuts whatsoever.
>
QED. Nothing further from me. Unsigned out of contempt for a nitpicking moron who cannot discuss the pertinent point viz that the inflation is not transitory at all except by extended immoral distortions aka lies..

[Tom Kunich]

Between Krygowski, Flunky, Liebermann and Scharf it is plain to see that these worthless jerks are only here to argue. And there is no lie too ridiculous for Flunky to utter as if his life depended on you believing him. (If only it did!)

Liebermann and people like him were the direct cause of the NAZI hatred of Jews. People who know nothing intent on proving they know everything. You would think that his absolute failure in his career would have taught him some humility, but he is ready, willing, and able to prove yet again that he is useless.

Krygowski was OK when Jobst was around since Jobst's distinction in mechanical engineering forced Frank to realize that he was nothing more than a teacher. But now he can pretend that teachers are supreme beings. Can you imagine Frank spouting like he does when Jobst ran this place like his own fiefdom?

[John B.]

Come now Tommy, no one argues with you. However they do correct your
insane fantasies but that is hardly arguing.
Of course, as your fantasies undoubtedly seem real to you I guess that
you probably feel as though it is an argument.

Which puts us in rather the same category as Winston Smith, in the
book "Nineteen Eighty-Four" who kept arguing that two plus two was
four in spite of "Big Brother" insisting it was really five.

>Liebermann and people like him were the direct cause of the NAZI
hatred of Jews. People who know nothing intent on proving they know
everything. You would think that his absolute failure in his career
would have taught him some humility, but he is ready, willing, and
able to prove yet again that he is useless.

Failure? Jeff? Well, Jeff bought his own home while you live in your
mother's old house. Jeff apparently still works, to some extent, while
you roost there on the Social Security. Jeff supports his arguments
with facts while you simply make loud noises and insults....
Who is it that is the failure?

>
>Krygowski was OK when Jobst was around since Jobst's distinction in
mechanical engineering forced Frank to realize that he was nothing
more than a teacher. But now he can pretend that teachers are supreme
beings. Can you imagine Frank spouting like he does when Jobst ran
this place like his own fiefdom?

Jobst's distinction in mechanical engineering?
The only site that I came across that stated a job that Jobst held,
said that he had worked as a Draftsman for a German company.

And I do have his book "The Bicycle Wheel".
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 02:37:32 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:07:19 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:40:05 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:

>>> Most economists will agree that a certain ***low level*** of inflation is endemic in the modern economy. So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed.

>> She isn't the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot. Jerome Powell is (since 2018- a trump appointee). Yellen is The Secretary of the Treasury. Get your facts straight, you useless welfare case.

>I didn't say she's "the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot." You did. What I said was that she's "the boss of the Federal Reserve". You're too poorly educated and informed to grasp the difference, and I'm done educating a moron who in 60 years has learned nothing.

It's a bad day in RBT when you can't even quote yourself correctly.

You said the she is "the boss of the Federal Reserve". If the
Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
(currently Jerome H. Powell) is not its leader, then who is its
leader? Hint: It's not the Secretary of the Treasury.

This might help:
<https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/international/exchange-stabilization-fund/relations-with-the-federal-reserve>

>Ask Jeff to look up her theoretical administrative and real relationship with the Chairman of the Federal Reserve for you.

I'm busy. Please do your own research. If you don't like using
Google, then find something closer to home, such as Yandex.
Hmmm... you might need to hurry:

"‘Russia’s Google’ wants to sell its Russian businesses and flee the
country with its most promising tech"
<https://www.yahoo.com/video/russia-google-wants-sell-russian-065741891.html>

[John B.]

On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:37:11 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

Ah yes, to avoid the sanctions imposed by the West. Or in other words
, "We can make more money over on your side of the fence" :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

>
Liebermann's full meretricious post is below. This is the only part of it I thought worth responding to:

>
> It's a bad day in RBT when you can't even quote yourself correctly.
>

Crap. I quoted myself correctly by copy and paste, and further used quotation marks around the direct quotes for the convenience of the blind and the stupid. You and the anonymous coward Flunky are trying to put words into my mouth that I did not speak in this regard. That's a scummy debating trick, but then who expects better from you.
>
I furthermore note that you both evade the substance of my post, that serious inflation has taken such deep hold that it won't be easily dislodged. So you know I'm right, and you can make no contrary case, but are too invested in your hateful behaviour to admit it.
>
That suits my purposes fine.
>
Andre Jute
Who do these clowns claim will advise the President on extending the current Chairman's tenure, or lay a shortlist of possible replacements on his desk, riddle me that.
*****

>
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:37:19 AM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 02:37:32 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:07:19 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:40:05 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
>
> >>> Most economists will agree that a certain ***low level*** of inflation is endemic in the modern economy. So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed.
>
> >> She isn't the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot. Jerome Powell is (since 2018- a trump appointee). Yellen is The Secretary of the Treasury. Get your facts straight, you useless welfare case.
>
> >I didn't say she's "the Chair of the Federal Reserve, you fucking idiot." You did. What I said was that she's "the boss of the Federal Reserve". You're too poorly educated and informed to grasp the difference, and I'm done educating a moron who in 60 years has learned nothing.
> It's a bad day in RBT when you can't even quote yourself correctly.
>

Crap. I quoted myself correctly by copy and paste.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:01:28 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Liebermann's full meretricious post is below. This is the only part of it I thought worth responding to:
>>
>> It's a bad day in RBT when you can't even quote yourself correctly.
>>
>Crap. I quoted myself correctly by copy and paste, and further used quotation marks around the direct quotes for the convenience of the blind and the stupid. You and the anonymous coward Flunky are trying to put words into my mouth that I did not speak in this regard. That's a scummy debating trick, but then who expects better from you.

Really? I didn't think it would be proper to suggest that you're
claiming that Janet Yellen is the "boss" of the Federal Reserve simply
to provide some credibility for Tom's original posting, which has
errors in both name and position. However, since you insist on
supporting Tom's mistakes, I'll fill in the blanks. You stated that:

"So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright
lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the
leader of the Fed."

Assuming that "Fed" is the same as "Federal Reserve" why did you find
it necessary to continue assigning the wrong position to Janet Yellen,
even after you were corrected twice? I can think of only one reason
and that's to support Tom's erroneous posting. In the past, I
indicated that you were a disappointment. Nothing has changed.

>I furthermore note that you both evade the substance of my post, that serious inflation has taken such deep hold that it won't be easily dislodged. So you know I'm right, and you can make no contrary case, but are too invested in your hateful behaviour to admit it.

My apologies for evading the inflated substance of your posting, but I
failed to see anything resembling substance to which I could reply in
a manner which would interest the readers of RBT.

Putting words in your mouth would be an improvement as your normal
effluvial outpourings are hardly exemplary of someone who should know
how to write in order to inform rather than confuse, misinform,
distort and obfuscate.

As for inflation, I currently do not have any interest in discussing
politics in a bicycle newsgroup. I provide corrections on any topic,
but try to limit discussions to technical topics.

>That suits my purposes fine.

Good example of my assertions. What do you mean by "that" and what
are your "purposes"? Both terms are quite vague. Are they as secret
as the location of your mythical 30,000 member writers group?

>Andre Jute
>Who do these clowns claim will advise the President on extending the current Chairman's tenure, or lay a shortlist of possible replacements on his desk, riddle me that.

Executive level advice in such matters has always been given by those
who control the money and are most likely to profit from their
influence.

[Frank Krygowski]

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:26:52 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>
> Jobst's distinction in mechanical engineering?
> The only site that I came across that stated a job that Jobst held,
> said that he had worked as a Draftsman for a German company.

You need to keep searching for information on him. He was a very competent engineer.
It showed in his discussions here, not to mention his employment history.
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2015/05/06/jobst-brandt-cyclist-inventor-author-and-industry-gadfly-dies-80#.Y6u_JhXMIaF

- Frank Krygowski

[Frank Krygowski]

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 10:24:40 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> My apologies for evading the inflated substance of your posting, but I
> failed to see anything resembling substance to which I could reply in
> a manner which would interest the readers of RBT.

I can't imagine being interested in anything posted by Jute or whatever his real name is.
The tricycle rider is the only poster here who is more boring.

But at least Mr. Tricycle is concise. It takes only a second or two to skim Mr. Tricycle's
latest unimaginative insult. With Jute I sometimes waste as much as five seconds to skim
his long ramblings for potential items of interest.

- Frank Krygowski

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:48:34 PM UTC-5, Dakota Franklin wrote:
> >
> You have poor reading and comprehension skills, Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister. You quoted what I said only a few lines above where you denied it. Let me extract it for you:
> Andre Jute: "So 'Transitory' from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie..."
> Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister: *...you wrote she's the "leader", not the boss..."
> >
> I give the Anonymous Cowardly Master Failure, Flunkmeister's angry post below in full, without any cuts whatsoever.

It might help if you didn't dishonestly snip what you _really_ wrote. Here it is in it's entirety:

"So "Transitory" from the boss of the Federal Reserve is an outright lie, and if Ms Yellen doesn't know it, she has no business being the leader of the Fed. "

You used the terms "boss" and "leader". I missed the term "boss", and now you're denying you wrote "leader".

Snipping full context for the point of doubling down on your mistake is a usenet rookie move, skippy.

> >
> QED. Nothing further from me. Unsigned out of contempt for a nitpicking moron who c
> annot discuss the pertinent point viz that the inflation is not transitory at all except by
> extended immoral distortions aka lies..

There was no QED in any of your messages in this discussion. Do we need to remind you of the appropriate use of the phrase since it's obvious your addled mind seems to have confused it?

That point aside, your quibble over "transient" is purely semantic (and a more concise example of nitpicking). IOW it isn't really a point worth discussing since you can't even get the positions of the players correct. Here's another high-school civics lesson for you and the equally misinformed kunich - The SoT and POTUS influence over the Federal Reserve actions to stem inflation are purely advisory. Jerome Powell is the "leader" of the federal reserve, the "boss" of the federal reserve, and and the Chairman of the Ferderal Reserve Board of Directors. The SoT and POTUS can make all the suggests - even demands - they want, the Fed acts independently. The Charter for the Federal Reserve was structured by law that way quite intentionally - to insulate their decisions from political meddling.

Speaking of failures, wrote any books that got published recently?
You're a fucking joke, and everyone here gets it except you and kunich.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:01:29 PM UTC-5, andre/andrew/dakota wrote:
> >
> Who do these clowns claim will advise the President on extending the current Chairman's tenure, or lay a shortlist of possible replacements on his desk, riddle me that.

A variety of people, with no one person or entity having any more official capacity to drive the presidents decision than any other. The only people with any official capacity are the POTUS to nominate the fed chair and and congress to confirm the nomination. I'm not surprised you don't know this never having spent any time on the subject of the American political structure, but it's extremely poor form to try to bullshit that you do. To quote the inimitable Mr. Liebermann (you actually called him that once) "In the past, I indicated that you were a disappointment. Nothing has changed."

Had enough high-school civics yet skippy?

[Andre Jute]

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 3:54:53 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> That low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank has told us that the inflation we are seeing is transitory. As in here today and gone tomorrow.
>

> Remember when that brainless puff Flunky told everyone that I couldn't have argued with Janice Yellen because she was FAR too important a person to talk to someone as far down the totem pole as me? That SHE had to be right and I had to be wrong that increasing the money supply for anything other than an increase in GDP couldn't possibly cause inflation.
>
> I went into the local supermarket yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123. I have no financial difficulties but tell us all Frank - does your teachers pension give you inflation correction? Lou, you wanted to know why I wanted so much money? You too are a victim of US inflation though perhaps it hasn't struck deep enough yet to be a pain to all of the people around you. But perhaps you should reflect on the poorer people around you and how they are going to deal with it.
>
> Thar indescribable ass Flunky expects people to believe he is an engineer when one of the very basic things an engineer has to do is bring projects in on time and on budget. That requires at least a basic understanding of economics. So what would make him argue that the first tule of economics doesn't count if you are a government employee?
>
> I am the one that does the cooking and I go to the store for things. So I am the one that sees the inflation up close and personal. I see the older people stuck on social security that can't afford to eat and live in a heatless shed with California us happily declaring a "save the air" day and fining people $200 per incident of having a fire in the fireplace when it is their only source of heat. My PG&E bill for last month was $300 and this month will be more.
>
> Remember the other people around you this Christmas and if you're economically sound think of most of the rest of the world who are not.
>
> You could blame Joe Biden but he is nothing more than a sock puppet being operated by someone else who believes that Joe is going to take the blame for everything. Don't you think that the American people have the right to know who is running this country?
>
There are now too many long abusive posts to count about whether I called Janet Yellen the "boss" or the "leader" of the Fed. That trivialises an important subject, but what do you expect from mindless clowns? Sorry about letting the monkeys into your thread, Tom. -- Andre Jute
>

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 6:09:23 AM UTC-5, the failed androgenous writer screeched:

<snipped bizarre copy paste>

> There are now too many long abusive posts to count about whether I called Janet Yellen the "boss" or the "leader" of the Fed.

You did it. You were wrong. admit it.

> That trivialises an important subject,

It isn't trivial to correct you two stooges when you ascribe fed policy over inflation mitigation to someone who has no control over that policy, you ignorant twit. If you had any integrity, you would have corrected tommys obvious mistake, then moved on to whether or not current fed policy is effective. You didn't, you bought into tommys bullshit then tried to double down because you're a pathetic hack with _no_ integrity.

> but what do you expect from mindless clowns?

WE see what we get from mindless clowns - making obvious mistakes then refusing to admit you were wrong. Simple mindless clownery.

> Sorry about letting the monkeys into your thread, Tom. -- Andre Jute

"letting"? Fuck you. You don't make the rules here asshole. Get back to your welfare queue, queenie.

BTW - your latest 'friend' here is a committed anonymous poster whom you have not called out in your long history here of calling out anonymous posters, you disgusting hypocrite.

[Tom Kunich]

Both Liebermann and Flunky spend most of their time here either misquoting others or pretending that they lie on resume's. Of course Flunky spends 24 hours a day on this group without a break and then tells us that he has a job as an engineer. Either he isn't or his job is entirely without merit. Liebermann was silly enough to put his resume on LinkedIn showing that he couldn't get a real engineering job. That wouldn't be bad since very few graduates end up working in their major. But why would he dare to tell me about things that I have actually done when he couldn't even hold a job? He had to be self employed to make a living! Scharf has shown us all that politicians have loyalty to nothing. He claims to be a Republican while spouting the same communist propaganda that got him no capacity for re-election. Krygowski couldn't get a mechanical engineering job so he resorted to teaching. Again, we need teachers, but we don't need teachers who cannot get a job that believe that they know it all and spout communist propaganda. And what the hell is Slocumb doing here? I have been told that when he is actually speaking of things he knows about he's OK, but that isn't what I've seen. He has been shoveling the same communist propaganda as the others and using Google search to "prove" that he is correct.

[Tom Kunich]

I posted the time line and showed that Yellen had been the Chairman of the Fed. Flunky likes to pretend that the US Secretary of the Treasury isn't an important position because he is an incomparable ass. It is SHE who is supposed to inform Congress of the viability of the national debt and to ORDER the printing of money to fill the national debt. But Flunky is pretending that is an unimportant position of no power whatsoever. Do you suppose that is because he is a liar or simply because is is entirely ignorant of the Departments of Government and what they do?

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:28:59 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I posted the time line and showed that Yellen had been the Chairman of the Fed.

Oh, I get it, now you're going to claim your OP stating "that low class moronic woman put in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank " was intended to be read as past tense? sure sparky.....

> Flunky likes to pretend that the US Secretary of the Treasury isn't an important position because he is an incomparable ass.

I did? Please point to where I claimed the SoT wasn't an important position. Besides you made no mention of her position as the SoT. If it's so important, why didn't you mention it in the OP? Don't bother answering, we know it's because you don't really know any better.

> It is SHE who is supposed to inform Congress of the viability of the national debt

Partially - She has advice and consent responsibilities just like the Federal Reserve Board of directors and the various finance committees in congress.

> and to ORDER the printing of money to fill the national debt.

Stupid stupid stupid....https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/082515/who-decides-when-print-money-us.asp

"The U.S. Federal Reserve controls the money supply in the United States, and while it doesn't actually print currency bills itself, it does determine how many bills are printed by the Treasury Department each year. "

> But Flunky is pretending that is an unimportant position of no power whatsoever. I am? Please point to where I claimed the SoT wasn't an important position with no power.

>Do you suppose that is because he is a liar or simply because is is entirely ignorant of the Departments of Government and what they do?

No, we know it's because you're a liar _and_ because you're entirely ignorant of the Departments of Government and what they do

[Andre Jute]

These RBT morons have decided that everything -- everything! -- you say is wrong, and that robs them of whatever tiny shreds of subtlety and discrimination they ever had. They're now locked into pretending that the order of appointments -- Yellen was first the Chairman of the Fed, and then Secretary of the Treasury -- and the lines of power -- Yellen has direct access to the President -- are of zero importance, that the exact letter of the simplifications they learned by rote (and not very well at that) in Civics 101 are an actual, realistic photograph of what happens in realtime 2022. It's what Dr Friedman, the preeminent American economist of the last century, called "the Fool's Gold of the Normative Case", as in "Grad student shouldn't try to bamboozle me with the Fool's Gold of the Normative Case." I also vividly remember thinking, as the fellow in the firing line blushed scarlet to the roots of his hair, Thank God I was thinking of the same answer this morning but rejected it as too obvious. The Normative Case, for you monkeys because I bet Tom knows what it is, is What Should Be in economic lore, but hardly ever is (which is why Marxists are kept busy inventing "anomalies" to excuse the failure of their forecasts). My bet is that these clowns will next pretend that the Fed Chairman is the final authority on ordering an increase in currency. I imagine that the Secretary of the Treasury, who is actually in charge of printing the bills, will have bureaucratic ways of delaying the printing and issuing which would fill a book the size of the Old Testament, starting with simply not ordering the bills printed or simply not ordering the bills distributed, and getting more subtle from there, or if the Fed is acting with restraint she considers overcautious, have a reserve of bills unissued in the previous round be suddenly discovered (like ballots in a voting district controlled by Democrats) and issued under a previous Fed dispensation. -- AJ

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, a failed androgynous writer belched:

>
> >
> These RBT morons have decided that everything -- everything! -- you say is wrong, and that robs them of whatever tiny shreds of subtlety and discrimination they ever had. They're now locked into pretending that the order of appointments -- Yellen was first the Chairman of the Fed, and then Secretary of the Treasury -- and the lines of power -- Yellen has direct access to the President -- are of zero importance,

There's our least favorite RBT member swallowing tommy spunk once again...No one said or even implied that, you deranged queen.

><snipped usual andrebabble>

> My bet is that these clowns will next pretend that the Fed Chairman is the final authority on ordering an increase in currency. I imagine that the Secretary of the Treasury, who is actually in charge of printing the bills,

Stupid stupid stupid....https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/082515/who-decides-when-print-money-us.asp

"The U.S. Federal Reserve controls the money supply in the United States, and while it doesn't actually print currency bills itself, it does determine how many bills are printed by the Treasury Department each year. "

Shut the fuck up dakota, you have no fucking clue what you're rambling on about.

[Andre Jute]

It took eleven minutes after I posted the above communication to receive a reply from a retired Treasury official who was in my grad tute, who is following this discussion. I post it in full:
"Why do you bother with these know-nothings? A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply, or said to be in short supply. You wouldn't believe it until you've experienced it, but games with that paper fits very neatly into the various schemes you describe to subvert the will of the Fed from the political end. You should remember that cash is now very much less important than it was back when I sat at your feet. Economics was more clearcut then. Working with credit card created money is like having sex through a rubber sheet. Nobody knows anything any more. Please tell me about your Utopia Kranich. What did it cost? Should I take their electric motor and batteries for $$$$ or get my own fitted locally? I want to copy your bike exactly because I don't know shit about bicycles, and I know you're murder on details that aren't right."

[Andre Jute]

"The job of actually printing currency bills belongs to the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing" -- oh dear, a contrary quotation from your own reference. And where, oh where, Flunky, do you think the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing takes their orders from?

>
> Shut the fuck up dakota, you have no fucking clue what you're rambling on about.
>

Quite the contrary. We know why you're now screeching at me to "Shut the fuck up" -- because it is your standard mode of abuse when you've lost the argument conclusively.

Unsigned out of contempt for an utter moron who doesn't grasp the limits of his own intelligence (about the same as his midget shoe size) or his education from a college more noted for producing cocky actors than engineers.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:17:43 AM UTC-5, a failed androgynous writer belched:

Sure skippy, and you wrote your dissertation under Karl popper, and tommy argues economics with Yellin. Tell us another tall tale.....

[Tom Kunich]

Again the question arises of HOW Flunky can be spending 24 hours a day on this group after claiming that he holds not just a job but is a manager. When I was managing a project I had NO spare time whatsoever. This leads me to the conclusion that ass Flunky doesn't even have a job. You simply cann0ot hold a real job and answer Google groups postings within seconds of their generation. The question arises - is he lying because he wants to feel important or simply because his communist heritage forces him to?

[Andre Jute]

Noted that you don't have any answers, and when you're cornered, you try to deflect by misrepresenting something else I said. You really are a witless, despicable little man. -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:33:55 AM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 4:06:02 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-5, a failed androgynous writer belched:
> > >
> > > >
> > > These RBT morons have decided that everything -- everything! -- you say is wrong, and that robs them of whatever tiny shreds of subtlety and discrimination they ever had. They're now locked into pretending that the order of appointments -- Yellen was first the Chairman of the Fed, and then Secretary of the Treasury -- and the lines of power -- Yellen has direct access to the President -- are of zero importance,
> > There's our least favorite RBT member swallowing tommy spunk once again...No one said or even implied that, you deranged queen.
> >
> > ><snipped usual andrebabble>
> > > My bet is that these clowns will next pretend that the Fed Chairman is the final authority on ordering an increase in currency. I imagine that the Secretary of the Treasury, who is actually in charge of printing the bills,
> > Stupid stupid stupid....https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/082515/who-decides-when-print-money-us.asp
> >
> > "The U.S. Federal Reserve controls the money supply in the United States, and while it doesn't actually print currency bills itself, it does determine how many bills are printed by the Treasury Department each year. "
> >
> "The job of actually printing currency bills belongs to the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing" -- oh dear, a contrary quotation from your own reference. And where, oh where, Flunky, do you think the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing takes their orders from?

More dishonest snipping from someone with the integrity of putin.

I'll repost the relevant passage to clear the air of your attempts at defecation:

"The U.S. Federal Reserve controls the money supply in the United States, and while it doesn't actually print currency bills itself, it does determine how many bills are printed by the Treasury Department each year. "

The secretary of the treasury has an advisory role. If push comes to shove, the fed has the final authrity to order an increase in the money supply.

> >
> > Shut the fuck up dakota, you have no fucking clue what you're rambling on about.
> >
> Quite the contrary. We know why you're now screeching at me to "Shut the fuck up" -- because it is your standard mode of abuse when you've lost the argument conclusively.

Not even close - you're grasping, searching for any little glimpse of some refuge to hide that fact that you're a clueless twit swallowing tommys spunk. Face it skippy, you were led by the nose to make a supportive comment for tommy - you're full of shit,as usual

>
> Unsigned out of contempt

oh no! not the dreaded "unsigned out of contempt"! how shall I ever endure ?!

> for an utter moron who doesn't grasp the limits of his own intelligence (about the same as his midget shoe size)

If there was any one in this forum who had a self-inflated impression of the their intellectual capacity, it's a dead tie between you and the other stooge tommy. At least kitty the ananymous coward knows when to back away.

> or his education from a college more noted for producing cocky actors than engineers.

Oh My! do Tell! What college did I go to, and what actors are they known for producing? I can't wait for this reply!!!!

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Again the question arises of HOW Flunky can be spending 24 hours a day on this group

lol...sure, I'm here 24/7.....BTW - check the calendar sparky. I know you]ve been retired a while but try to be cognizant of what's going on in the real world.

> after claiming that he holds not just a job but is a manager.

Nope, I never claimed to be a manager. More of your poor reading comprehension

> When I was managing a project I had NO spare time whatsoever.

Classic logical fallacy - false first principle.

> This leads me to the conclusion that ass Flunky doesn't even have a job. You simply cann0ot hold a real job and answer Google groups postings within seconds of their generation.

hmmm....you don't suppose some people might take vacation time between xmas and new years? Nah......

> The question arises - is he lying because he wants to feel important or simply because his communist heritage forces him to?

Tell us again how you argued economics with Janet Yellin?

[Andre Jute]

I've long since concluded that Flunky's repeated themes tell us everything we need to know about his life:
1. Repeatedly accusing people of being "queer". He's a closeted queer, afraid people will find out.
2. Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries that he'll end up on welfare.
3. Repeatedly bragging about the size of his house. He worries about losing his bedsit at the next round of inflation and ending up on the street.
4. Repeatedly telling us how popular he is. Aw, sheet, man, pull the other one.
5. Etc. Frequency analysis of his posts by my assistant (who's now got her PhD and is preparing to move on to her grand new job in Frankfurt, so I have to find papers on my own, for which inconvenience I'll kick Flunky in the nuts every time I see him, irrational but that's how he treats people) revealed a long list of his fears, but they're pretty obvious, so I won't bore you with the full list, which is in a file drawer somewhere.
>
Andre Jute
Another ex-student wants to know why I waste time on these know-nothings. Good question!

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:45:34 AM UTC-5, a whiney little irish shit whimered:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 4:40:03 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Sure skippy, and you wrote your dissertation under Karl popper, and tommy argues economics with Yellin. Tell us another tall tale.....
> >
> Noted that you don't have any answers, and when you're cornered,

I replied in a separate post where you actually posted something of substance(?). It might help if you took a victory lap after you finally won something, little man(?)

>you try to deflect by misrepresenting something else I said

Oh really? You mean you _didn't_ write that you worked with Karl Popper on your dissertation? I keep reminding you that the internet never forgets - you haven't seemd to grasp the concept yet.

> You really are a witless, despicable little man

lol....that's funny coming from a arrogant aging troll who claims to have bullied a wikipedia editor into submission by threatening to expose jimmy walsh, worked with Karl Popper on his dissertation, and now has a US treasury official opining for the days of a supine position at your feet.....no wonder no one buys your books HAH!!!

> -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.

oh no! not unsigned again! oh the indignity!!!

pffft, fuck off, you old poofter

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:59:59 AM UTC-5, angry little irish person wrote:
>
> >
> I've long since concluded that Flunky's repeated themes tell us everything we need to know about his life:
> 1. Repeatedly accusing people of being "queer". He's a closeted queer, afraid people will find out.

nope, just you. Do I need to remind you who in this forum claims people to be "queer" more than anyone else? By your logic, tommy is the biggest queer here.

> 2. Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries that he'll end up on welfare.

Nope, just you. Do I need to remind you who accuses people of being on welfare more than anyone else? By your logic, tommy is the most broke bitch here.

> 3. Repeatedly bragging about the size of his house. He worries about losing his bedsit at the next round of inflation and ending up on the street.

Repeatedly? sure skippy, post references to show how I've "bragged about it repeatedly"

> 4. Repeatedly telling us how popular he is. Aw, sheet, man, pull the other one.

lol...sure skippy, show me one message where I bragged about my popularity. Let's compare that with you claims of adulation(administrator of a 30K member writes forum!!!)

> 5. Etc. Frequency analysis of his posts by my assistant (who's now got her PhD and is preparing to move on to her grand new job in Frankfurt,

You mean your bednurse got a better gig....

> so I have to find papers on my own, for which inconvenience I'll kick Flunky in the nuts every time I see him, irrational but that's how he treats people)

I'm going to Ireland on a 2nd honeymoon this fall. I'll make sure to make a stop in Bandon so you can give it a shot.

> revealed a long list of his fears, but they're pretty obvious, so I won't bore you with the full list, which is in a file drawer somewhere.

lol....sure skippy, I've revealed a long list of fears of which your nurse printed out and a stuffed in a drawer someplace. I can't wait until you dig that one out.....

> >
> Andre Jute
> Another ex-student wants to know why I waste time on these know-nothings. Good question!

Oh my, now you're a former teacher in addition to all you other mitty-esque accomplisments!

[Andre Jute]

>
This is just the usual ad hominem abuse and lies and distortions from an economic know-nothing. When you have a relevant point to make, Well-named Anonymous Coward Flunky, send a separate brief message and I'll come see once more why Janet Yellen is Flunky's Heroine, a case by Tom Kunich that is now conclusively proven. Nothing further from me in this post. --- Unsigned etc

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-5, the angry irish troll screeched:

> >
> This is just the usual ad hominem abuse and lies and distortions

Well deserved abuse, nary a lie from me in the lot. You've made every claim I've recounted, quite nearly verbatim.

> from an economic know-nothing.

Tell us again how Janet Yellin is the "leader" and or "boss" of the federal reserve?

> When you have a relevant point to make,

Points already well-made, with no rational replies from you at any point.

> Well-named Anonymous Coward Flunky

Don't blame me if you can't keep up. Everythings been posted - where I live, my linked in profile, my strava profile. Who used to do your homework for you, was it Dakota? You're seriously bad at it.

> send a separate brief message and I'll come see once more why Janet Yellen is Flunky's Heroine, a case by Tom Kunich that is now conclusively proven.

Funny, Tommy never claimed Janet Yellen was my heroine, he said someone named Janice Yellen, whom he never mentioned again. And would you care to regurgitate _any_ thing tommy boy wrote that links any of my opinions to Janet Yellin and any sort of hero worship? Please do. You're just so smart and rationale you should be able to aptly point it out. oh now, wait, you can't find this extensive list of my fears your bednurse stuffed in a drawer someplace.

>Nothing further from me in this post.

Yup, slink away with your tail between you legs like you always do.

> --- Unsigned etc
Here skippy, let me help you out
*Mister Andre Jute McCoy, a writer of vanity novels and diarrhea-mouthed, long winded poster to the Usenet - where he pretends to be famous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bandon,_County_Cork&oldid=127907139#People

[Tom Kunich]

I suppose that Flunky forgets that I knew Seaton was queer by his postings and after a couple of years of denying it he came out of the closet. Likewise the constant barrage of calling others queer is the unmistakable sign of an alpha queer. The rest of his blitz is a cover for just how unimportant he feels.

I hate to remind him that Janet Yellin is not responsible for the God-like status he's given her and she has already admitted that her fiscal policies were wrong JIUST like I said they were years ago when you were stupidly attempting to elevate her to expert on all things economic because you know nothing about economics and need to pretend you do.

It's time for the Flunky comedy show to start again. Why don't you tell us that Yellin was wrong when she said she was wrong.

[Andre Jute]

>
More pointless, repetitive abuse, not even original to you but copied from a clown I've long since disposed of. Do you know anything of substance, Cowardly Anonymous Flunky? Let's hear it, then. Nothing further in this post from me. -- Unsigned out of contempt.

[Andre Jute]

Laughing aloud. That should be good, Flunky trying to explain how "Yellin was wrong when she said she was wrong." Make our day, Flunky. See, Flunky, Tom has a quick wit, whereas you are turgid and boring, a tenth-rater.-- AJ

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 1:33:05 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> More pointless, repetitive abuse, not even original to you but copied from a clown I've long since disposed of.

In other words, you're the one posting old material, not me.

> Do you know anything of substance,

Sure thing skippy, I've schooled you repeatedly here, everyone - including tom - knows it. And yet you have no rational response - merely flailing away at a pathetic attempt to find a contradiction in the link I gave you. Pretty bad, skippy, pretty bad. Instead you decide to stroke tommy's ego as if that makes you look like anything other than the daft old coot you are. You aren't fooling anyone here, except maybe tommy.

> Cowardly Anonymous Flunky?

Silly little afro-irish troll thinks making a special identity post just for them somehow makes them look like less of an idiot. The info is out there, skippy, I'm not going to make a special effort to compile it because you're too fucking lazy to do you own homework.

> Nothing further in this post from me.

Again?

> -- Unsigned out of contempt

Here, let me fix that for ya.
- Signed - Mister Andre Jute McCoy, a writer of vanity novels and diarrhea-mouthed, long winded poster to the Usenet - where he pretends to be famous.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 1:19:07 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:25:37 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >
> > This is just the usual ad hominem abuse and lies and distortions from an economic know-nothing. When you have a relevant point to make, Well-named Anonymous Coward Flunky, send a separate brief message and I'll come see once more why Janet Yellen is Flunky's Heroine, a case by Tom Kunich that is now conclusively proven. Nothing further from me in this post. --- Unsigned etc
> > >
> > On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 5:06:26 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 11:45:34 AM UTC-5, a whiney little irish shit whimered:
> > > > On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 4:40:03 PM UTC, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure skippy, and you wrote your dissertation under Karl popper, and tommy argues economics with Yellin. Tell us another tall tale.....
> > > > >
> > > > Noted that you don't have any answers, and when you're cornered,
> > > I replied in a separate post where you actually posted something of substance(?). It might help if you took a victory lap after you finally won something, little man(?)
> > > >you try to deflect by misrepresenting something else I said
> > > Oh really? You mean you _didn't_ write that you worked with Karl Popper on your dissertation? I keep reminding you that the internet never forgets - you haven't seemd to grasp the concept yet.
> > > > You really are a witless, despicable little man
> > > lol....that's funny coming from a arrogant aging troll who claims to have bullied a wikipedia editor into submission by threatening to expose jimmy walsh, worked with Karl Popper on his dissertation, and now has a US treasury official opining for the days of a supine position at your feet.....no wonder no one buys your books HAH!!!
> > > > -- Unsigned for the usual reasons.
> > > oh no! not unsigned again! oh the indignity!!!
> > >
> > > pffft, fuck off, you old poofter
> I suppose that Flunky forgets that I knew Seaton was queer by his postings and after a couple of years of denying it he came out of the closet.

Did he? I must have missed that. Post a link if you have it. Nothing shows up after he posted your address in response to you threatening to kill him.

> Likewise the constant barrage of calling others queer is the unmistakable sign of an alpha queer. The rest of his blitz is a cover for just how unimportant he feels.

lol.. so you calling me and russel queer those thousands of times _isn't_ the sign of an alpha queer? sure sparky, just the kind of 'logic' we've some to expect from you.

> I hate to remind him that Janet Yellin is not responsible for the God-like status he's given her

Care to post a link to anything I wrote that confers 'god-like' status to Janet Yellen?

> and she has already admitted that her fiscal policies were wrong

No, she said she was wrong about how bad the inflation was going to be, not about "her fiscal policies".

> JIUST like I said they were years ago

No, you didn't. You were simply playing politics, like a good little fascist troll.

> when you were stupidly attempting to elevate her to expert on all things economic because you know nothing about economics and need to pretend you do.

I've never discussed Janet Yellen in this forum other than this thread. Try again, sparky.

> It's time for the Flunky comedy show to start again. Why don't you tell us that Yellin was wrong when she said she was wrong.

Why would I do that? Her words speak for themselves.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 1:37:49 PM UTC-5, vapid little afro-irish troll defecated:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 6:19:07 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

> >
> > It's time for the Flunky comedy show to start again. Why don't you tell us that Yellin was wrong when she said she was wrong.
> >
> Laughing aloud.

Which only goes to show the low bar that passes for humour in what's left of your world.

> That should be good, Flunky trying to explain how "Yellin was wrong when she said she was wrong." Make our day, Flunky.

It would be good, if it made any sense. But I think we've all given up on you or sparky making any sense long ago. I think we'd all be much more amused by your tall tales of how you bullied a wikipedia editor into submission by threatening to expose jimmy walsh, worked with Karl Popper on your dissertation, or a US treasury official opining for the days of a supine position at your feet.

> See, Flunky, Tom has a quick wit,

To the snail, the tortoise is quick.

> whereas you are turgid and boring, a tenth-rater.-- AJ

Has andre jute sold any books lately? how about Andrew McCoy, or maybe Dakota Franklin? What pronoun would you prefer we use for you? Nevermind, I'll stick with calling you shithead.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 08:17:41 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that
>the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply,
>or said to be in short supply.

Baloney. The Fed printed MORE paper money in 2021 and 2022, with no
indications that there is a paper currency shortage. However,
increased use of credit cards for online purchases is expected to
reduce paper money requirements starting in 2023.

Did you get this amazing fact from fake news?
"Fact check: False claim that the US has stopped making new currency
available" (Dec 20, 2022)
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/20/fact-check-federal-reserve-continues-distribute-paper-currency/10899563002/>

"2023 Federal Reserve Note Print Order" (November 04, 2022)
<https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_currency_orders.htm>
"Currency in circulation, a direct measure of demand for Federal
Reserve notes, increased by 1.2 billion notes or $107.0 billion
dollars between June 2021 and June 2022. In contrast, during the same
period the previous year, currency in circulation increased by 4.0
billion notes, or $212.8 billion dollars, when cash demand was heavily
affected by the pandemic. Year-over-year, currency in circulation
continues to increase though the rate at which it is increasing has
returned to pre-pandemic levels."

Currency print orders for previous years:
<https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/currency_print_orders_archive.htm>

Note: "The BEP operates on a fiscal year that begins on October 1 and
ends on September 30"

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

I'll also point out that all three of your links state that the federal reserve gives the orders to print money, not the secretary of the treasury - as was already pointed out to that Bandon Failure.

[Andre Jute]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 08:17:41 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that
> >the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply,
> >or said to be in short supply.
>
> Baloney. The Fed printed MORE paper money in 2021 and 2022, with no
> indications that there is a paper currency shortage. However,
> increased use of credit cards for online purchases is expected to
> reduce paper money requirements starting in 2023.
>

Are you obstructive or merely obtuse, Jeff? My correspondent was discussing a hypothetical situation which you and that moron Flunky claimed is impossible. A hypothetical cannot be "baloney". But it can be evidence of your spite running aways with you.
>
Furthermore, you seem unable to grasp that there is a special paper for printing currency on. And no one said anything about how much was actually printed. These are all confusions sewn by your bumbuddy Flunky in his witless attempt to ruin yet another thread with his mindless accusation and attempts to put words in people's mouths.

>
> Did you get this amazing fact from fake news?
> "Fact check: False claim that the US has stopped making new currency
> available" (Dec 20, 2022)
>

Who said "that the US has stopped making new currency." Not me, not my correspondent. Maybe the ignorant Flunky said it and I missed it in a quick skim'n'skip. Perhaps you two are just entering into the spirit of the debate, RBT style, by sowing more confusion. You're fact-checking empty air.
>
> <https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/20/fact-check-federal-reserve-continues-distribute-paper-currency/10899563002/>
>
Who said the Fed had stopped issuing currency? Not me, not my correspondent. You're putting up straw men. Another pseudo fact check of empty air.

>
> "2023 Federal Reserve Note Print Order" (November 04, 2022)
> <https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_currency_orders.htm>
> "Currency in circulation, a direct measure of demand for Federal
> Reserve notes, increased by 1.2 billion notes or $107.0 billion
> dollars between June 2021 and June 2022. In contrast, during the same
> period the previous year, currency in circulation increased by 4.0
> billion notes, or $212.8 billion dollars, when cash demand was heavily
> affected by the pandemic. Year-over-year, currency in circulation
> continues to increase though the rate at which it is increasing has
> returned to pre-pandemic levels."
>

Once more, so what? Nobody said it isn't so. Another straw man.

>
> Currency print orders for previous years:
> <https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/currency_print_orders_archive.htm>
>

And once again, so what? Nobody said it isn't so. Another straw man.

>
> Note: "The BEP operates on a fiscal year that begins on October 1 and
> ends on September 30"
>

> What about it? No one said otherwise.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann
>
Did you go to night school to learn these cutrate debating tricks, Jeff? You should ask for your tuition back because you're raging in a padded cell.>
>
What a waste of time you've turned into, Jeff.

[John B.]

"When I was a manager"?

Tommy, the only thing that you ever managed was a mop and a broom!

And don't quote your famous "Resume" as the very first entry in it is
a blatant lie, so who can believe the rest of it.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:17:50 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute

<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 08:17:41 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
>> <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that
>> >the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply,
>> >or said to be in short supply.
>>
>> Baloney. The Fed printed MORE paper money in 2021 and 2022, with no
>> indications that there is a paper currency shortage. However,
>> increased use of credit cards for online purchases is expected to
>> reduce paper money requirements starting in 2023.

>Are you obstructive or merely obtuse, Jeff?

Please re-read your own words. You said:

"A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that
the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply,
or said to be in short supply."

Since you are unable to parse your own writing, I'll try to help.
You said "new bills are not being printed". That means that you are
claiming that the Fed is not printing new paper money. If you have an
alternate interpretation, I'm more than will to listen.

The phrase:

"said to be in short supply"

indicates that you either read somewhere that printed money is in
short supply, or that someone communicated with you that money was in
short supply. Having exactly such a paper shortage impacting the
money supply article appear on Facebook about 10 days previously
suggests that this may be your source of allegation.

In case the logic escapes you, if there really was a shortage of paper
suitable for printing money, there would be a corresponding shortage
of printed money.

Also "A very common reason" would normally require at least one
example. There was a paper shortage in 2021, but it didn't impact the
money supply.
"Global Paper Shortage 2022: What You Need to Know"
<https://www.phoenixlitho.com/global-paper-shortage-2022-what-you-need-to-know/>

>My correspondent was discussing a hypothetical situation which
>you and that moron Flunky claimed is impossible. A hypothetical
>cannot be "baloney". But it can be evidence of your spite running
>aways with you.

I beg to differ. There was no mention of hypothetical, theoretical,
perceived, or any other vague which might help you wiggly out of your
alarmist baloney. Here's a link to your baloney:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cIy0DJaWYMg/m/Bn6ApxZvBAAJ>

Prefacing a statement with "A very common reason" doesn't change its
meaning. If you intended the paper shortage statement to be
hypothetical, then you should have phrased it appropriately.

Incidentally, I really like the way you included your Utopia Kranich
and the way you gave yourself an applause for a well designed machine.
Adding that comment is an indication that you never received any
communication from a retired Treasury official.

>Furthermore, you seem unable to grasp that there is a special
>paper for printing currency on. And no one said anything about how
>much was actually printed.

You seem to be unable to understand that a shortage of paper would
also cause a shortage of paper currency. Since I do not have access
to the inventory records of the BEP (Bureau of Engraving and
Printing), I provided links to the currency that was actually printed,
which shows no indication of any shortages. Presumably if the BEP can
print increased amounts of paper money in 2021 and 2022, there is no
paper shortage.

Incidentally, if you insist on limiting discussions to only
information that you provide, such as "no one said anything about...",
you will likely have very dull and limited discussion. That includes
claiming that only approved (by you) comments can be presented in
"your" threads.

>> Did you get this amazing fact from fake news?
>> "Fact check: False claim that the US has stopped making new currency
>> available" (Dec 20, 2022)

>Who said "that the US has stopped making new currency." Not me, not
>my correspondent.

Executive summary: When you run out of suitable paper for printing
money, you automatically run out of currency. It's called cause and
effect. There was no indication that the US ran out of printed money.
Therefore, there was no shortage of money suitable for printing
currency.

[John B.]

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:13:04 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>

The paper used to print U.S. currency is manufactured by Crane and Co.
who have manufactured the paper for the U.S. to print currency since
1879.

--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:13:04 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>Therefore, there was no shortage of money suitable for printing
>currency.

Oops. That should be:

Therefore, there was no shortage of paper suitable for printing

[John B.]

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 23:19:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>

wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:13:04 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Therefore, there was no shortage of money suitable for printing
>>currency.
>
>Oops. That should be:
>
>Therefore, there was no shortage of paper suitable for printing
>currency.

:-) -:) :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

>
I read only a few lines of Jeff's tortured (un)reasoning. Those aren't my words, Jeff. The quotation marks would indicate that much to anyone not as biased and obsessed with proving me wrong as you are. You should reread the thread and try to get the context, which is possibilities for obstructing the will of the Fed at the Treasury end of the Mx management continuum. My correspondent may not be as careful to dot the eyes and knock the ball only off the tees as I am when speaking to known idiots, but in the context he makes perfect sense, and his expertise is newer than mine, not that it matters because you monkeys will attempt to howl him down anyway, as you just tried to do.
>
Andre Jute
Another SlowKiddyClass WannabeFactChecker makes a fool of himself.
>
PS Yo, Tom: What really pisses me off is these worthless RBT monkeys wasting so much of my time on the mickey mouse component of dollar bills -- and dimes, for all I know since I haven't read all of their trash talk -- whereas "money" has many overbearing non-cash components which can be and are brought into play by the Fed directly on its own authority and without the assistance of other players who may not be fully onboard. It's just too painful to teach these moronic ingrates economics, so I'm out of it. Let them stew in their own mess.
>

[AMuzi]

That's immaterial to economics.

In 1933 the actual size of US currency was reduced to the
current size which caused widespread (unfounded) suspicion,
as with the comment earlier here about 'thinner' bills.
There were serious problems with currency value and economic
policies in 1933 but the size and shape of paper bills was
not among them.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 7:56:03 AM UTC-5, the vapid afro-irish troll screeched:

> >
> I read only a few lines of Jeff's tortured (un)reasoning. Those aren't my words, Jeff. The quotation marks would indicate that much to anyone not as biased and obsessed with proving me wrong as you are. You should reread the thread and try to get the context, which is possibilities for obstructing the will of the Fed at the Treasury end of the Mx management continuum.

WE know what you wrote, and what you meant by it, shortass. Your pathetic semantic games are the last refuge of someone whose hopelessly lost all credibility.

> My correspondent may not be as careful to dot the eyes and knock the ball only off the tees as I am when speaking to known idiots, but in the context he makes perfect sense, and his expertise is newer than mine, not that it matters because you monkeys will attempt to howl him down anyway, as you just tried to do.

You have no correspondent. This alleged former student and current treasury 'official' is as real as any of your fictional characters and as credible as tom.

> Andre Jute
> Another SlowKiddyClass WannabeFactChecker makes a fool of himself.

Another weak attempt by the afro-irish troll to regain some credibility - it's a lost cause.

> >
> PS Yo, Tom: What really pisses me off is these worthless RBT monkeys wasting so much of my time on the mickey mouse component of dollar bills -- and dimes, for all I know since I haven't read all of their trash talk -- whereas "money" has many overbearing non-cash components which can be and are brought into play by the Fed directly on its own authority and without the assistance of other players who may not be fully onboard. It's just too painful to teach these moronic ingrates economics, so I'm out of it. Let them stew in their own mess.

More clueless whining from the empty well of a once self-important but failed author.

> >

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 6:17:51 PM UTC-5, the angry afro-irish troll screeched:

> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:20:50 PM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 08:17:41 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> > <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >A very common reason for new bills not being printed is that
> > >the special paper on which they're printed is in short supply,
> > >or said to be in short supply.
> >
> > Baloney. The Fed printed MORE paper money in 2021 and 2022, with no
> > indications that there is a paper currency shortage. However,
> > increased use of credit cards for online purchases is expected to
> > reduce paper money requirements starting in 2023.
> >
> Are you obstructive or merely obtuse, Jeff? My correspondent was discussing a hypothetical situation which you and that moron Flunky claimed is impossible.

You _are_ aware that your repeated fabrications do nothing more than reveal your hollow arguments?

> A hypothetical cannot be "baloney". But it can be evidence of your spite running aways with you.

Yes, a hypothetical can be complete baloney (and you claimed to have worked with Karl Popper, what a fucking joke).

> Furthermore, you seem unable to grasp that there is a special paper for printing currency on.

lol...yeah, sure, Jeff is unaware that currency is printed on special paper. That rhetoric probably works on tommy, but no one else is stupid enough to buy it.

> And no one said anything about how much was actually printed. These are all confusions sewn by your bumbuddy Flunky

HAHA!!! You're the one who said the secretary of the treasury orders the printing of money, dumbass.

> in his witless attempt to ruin yet another thread

LOL!!, you mena the thread with the title "Janice Yellen is Flunkies' Heroine"? Yeah, I "ruined" it....HAH!!!

> with his mindless accusation and attempts to put words in people's mouths.

I've done nothing but quote you. You on the other hand.....

That's funny coming from someone who keeps making claims he can't back-up, then slinks away with his tail between his legs. Tell us again how Yellen is the leader of the federal reserve, skippy.

> What a waste of time you've turned into, Jeff.

The irony being that it's the story of your life.

> Unsigned for the usual reasons.

Oh No Jeff! He left his reply to unsigned! How will you ever bear the indignity?!?!?!

[Tom Kunich]

I continue to get correspondence from people who from the tone of it, hate Liebermann's guts but are not about to make themselves targets of people like Krygowski who is sick or Scharf who I just showed will do absolutely anything to act like I was wrong. They don't mind Flunky since he is nothing more than a troll. Can you believe how much value he gives to his own asinine opinions?

[Tom Kunich]

Talking economics to these people is like talking to a donkey. Flunky believes that Janet Yellen lives in an ivory tower, that being Secretary of the Treasury is a demotion and that she would never deign to post on social media trying to explain her economic theories which she now admits to having been wrong. You cannot control society through economics as she believed. All you can do is destroy the economy.

Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it. It is a rather boring subject until you actually think about it.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 12:17:38 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I continue to get correspondence from people who from the tone of it, hate Liebermann's guts but are not about to make themselves targets

With the possible exception of the angry little afro-irish troll, no one is contacting you externally about anyone in this group.

[funkma...@hotmail.com]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 12:30:46 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Talking economics to these people is like talking to a donkey.

That's what happens when you enter the discussion braying like a donkey, especially when heehawing that there was no recession before Obama took office

> Flunky believes that Janet Yellen lives in an ivory tower, that being Secretary of the Treasury is a demotion

Put up or shut the fuck up sparky. If I wrote anything even remotely resembling that, post the link.

> and that she would never deign to post on social media trying to explain her economic theories

She might, she might not. I don't pay enough attention to her to know if she would, or already has.

> which she now admits to having been wrong.

She admitted she was wrong about how bad inflation was going to get. Not that "her policies" were wrong. Get it straight, asshat.

> You cannot control society through economics as she believed. All you can do is destroy the economy.

Care to post any link where she claims society can be controlled through economics? Again, put up, or shut the fuck up.

>
> Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it. It is a rather boring subject until you actually think about it.

Jutelist:

2. Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries that he'll end up on welfare.

- Andre Jute a writer of vanity novels and diarrhea mouthed , long-winded poster to usenet, where he pretends to be famous

[Frank Krygowski]

On 12/30/2022 12:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it.

That's almost precisely backwards. First, I did study economics. It was
required to get my engineering degree. In fact, problems in Engineering
Economics were a fairly common part of the exam for a Professional
Engineering license.

But I'm not much interested in details of economics these days because
I've got zero financial worries. I hire someone to handle my
investments. As long as the total continues rising as it has, I let
those people take care of things for me.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 04:56:01 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I read only a few lines of Jeff's tortured (un)reasoning. Those aren't my words, Jeff.

I have the same problem. I'm currently about 350 messages behind on
reading and about 15 messages awaiting sufficient time to reply. I
haven't kept accurate track, but with 150 to 200 new messages per day
in RBT, I doubt if anyone has the time to read everything, much less
reply. Since you seem to advocate ignorance as a winning strategy,
you shouldn't have any difficulties if you don't read everything (or
anything). Also, I suppose it's possible for you to be a great writer
and a poor reader.

>The quotation marks would indicate that much to anyone not as biased
>and obsessed with proving me wrong as you are.

Obsessed? I've avoided commenting on your opinions, logic and
judgments. I'm only interested in correcting errors, distortions,
fabrications, lies, and bicycle lighting. For example, tell me more
about your alleged 30,000 member writers group, such as where I might
find this mythical group. That would of interest.

Dec 16, 2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/js-qqHYeuWw/m/nPyubE7uCgAJ>
"My assistant has now worked out how to get the actual number of
members of my writers' group, which turns out at 1905 GMT on Thursday
16 December to be 28,695 members, near enough the "rising 30K" or
whatever I told you."

>You should reread the thread and try to get the context...

Why should I re-read your postings when you refuse to read mine?

[AMuzi]

Indeed. When done well, engineering prizes efficiency and
the management/manipulation of limited resources.

[Catrike Rider]

<LOL> Fat chance your investments have been rising these last few
months... I smell bullshit.

[Tom Kunich]

Segments of the market have been rising but my counselors and I independently came to the conclusion that the recession was coming so we moved out of stocks and into bonds. It is doubtful that as a teacher that Frank has sufficient investments to be safe from Biden's inflation. Believe it or not I worry about Liebermann since unless he inherited, he will be in deep shit only to discover there's no one that is going to help him. I even worry about assholes. Well, discounting Flunky and now Scharf.

[John B.]

O.K. Tommy you are getting all this correspondence.... or are you
lying?

Of course based on your normal conduct we have to believe that you are
lying as the statistics show that you've told the truth only 3 times
in the past 17 years.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Thus speaks the chap who lives on his income from the Social Security
and mentioned when he got re-married that "we had to be careful so we
wouldn't loose her social security".

I'm admittedly guessing but Frank recently bought a new electric car
which sells for, what was it? $50,000 and you tell us about your
second hand old Ford (was it?)

Jeff, has mentioned owning what I would call "investment properties"
while you still live in your mother's house never having bought a
home.

"Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski" have never posted any mention of
high food costs while you continually whine about the high cost of
groceries.

In short, if anyone "never had enough money to be concerned" it is you
Tommy.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Frank Krygowski]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 6:46:50 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>
> I'm admittedly guessing but Frank recently bought a new electric car
> which sells for, what was it? $50,000 and you tell us about your
> second hand old Ford (was it?)

Less than $50,000. But I did pay cash for it.

> "Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski" have never posted any mention of
> high food costs while you continually whine about the high cost of
> groceries.

I'm trying to remember if I ever complained here about the price of anything
I wanted to buy. I don't think that's ever happened. At this point, I think things
cost whatever they cost.

- Frank Krygowski

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:46:40 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Jeff, has mentioned owning what I would call "investment properties"
>while you still live in your mother's house never having bought a
>home.

Nope. I sold my rental in 2006:
<https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/335-Walk-Cir-Santa-Cruz-CA-95060/16105857_zpid/>
I owned that rental house for 25 years. I sold my shares in a 2nd
rental house in about 2009. Both rentals were investment properties.

My father owned a 13 unit apartment building in Hollywood, CA, where I
was building manager for a few months.

The family house in West Smog Angeles:
<https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9719-Holcomb-St-Los-Angeles-CA-90035/20493806_zpid/>
went to my step mother when my father died. When it was sold in about
1998(?), I received nothing (by prior agreement).

Hint: Evil landlords don't start out that way. After a few years of
dealing with tenants, most landlords become evil in self defense.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:17:37 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I continue to get correspondence from people who from the tone of it, hate Liebermann's guts...

My purpose in RBT is to reduce your credibility to a level where
nobody will believe anything you write. Comments like receiving
correspondence from non-existent people reinforces the impression that
you are not to be believed or trusted. Thanks for making it easier
for me to accomplish my purpose.

Sometimes, receiving correspondence from non-existent people is
useful:
02/16/2022
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JOuW1-q9gVI/m/pqo8Wgt2BgAJ>
"I have contacted several of the other ex-members of the group and
their suggestion to me is to stop responding to the morons. Hence I
will."

[AMuzi]

On 12/30/2022 9:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:46:40 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jeff, has mentioned owning what I would call "investment properties"
>> while you still live in your mother's house never having bought a
>> home.
>
> Nope. I sold my rental in 2006:
> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/335-Walk-Cir-Santa-Cruz-CA-95060/16105857_zpid/>
> I owned that rental house for 25 years. I sold my shares in a 2nd
> rental house in about 2009. Both rentals were investment properties.
>
> My father owned a 13 unit apartment building in Hollywood, CA, where I
> was building manager for a few months.
>
> The family house in West Smog Angeles:
> <https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9719-Holcomb-St-Los-Angeles-CA-90035/20493806_zpid/>
> went to my step mother when my father died. When it was sold in about
> 1998(?), I received nothing (by prior agreement).
>
> Hint: Evil landlords don't start out that way. After a few years of
> dealing with tenants, most landlords become evil in self defense.
>

+1
Dealing with tenants shatters one's faith in humanity generally.

[John B.]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 19:20:35 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:17:37 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I continue to get correspondence from people who from the tone of it, hate Liebermann's guts...
>

Jeff, you should be proud! Just think of it hundreds, maybe thousands,
of people reading your posts right here on RBT. And writing to Tommy?

Given that level of readership you really should contact a company
that advertises on the Web. I'm sure that they would be willing to pay
if you just included a few of their "pretty pictures" in your posts.

Just think. A whole new career..... and all due to Tommy :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:30:46 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it.
>

Sure, these poorboy salarymen (a Japanese pejorative for mindless placeholders in the schemes of brighter men) think their assets aren't big enough to be affected by economics, but it's a mistake. Economics is the everyday affairs of man (and woman too!) with a price tag and a philosophy attached to allow quick comparisons.
>
> [Economics] is a rather boring subject until you actually think about it.
>
Economics is fascinating after you realise that it is mass motivational psychology with dollar signs attached. Why the RBT scum don't know anything about economics and don't want to know anything about economics is because economists insist on pricing their pet marxist schemes in cost-benefit matrixes and, guess what, Thunberg-Ocasio-Cortez barmaid-commie economics always comes up short. Your girlfriend Yellen (heh-heh!) at least has a grasp of economic linkages (that is, she knows where they are even when she is distracted by ideology into getting their effects wrong).
>
Andre Jute
You can drag a mule named Flunky or Krygo to water, but you can't make it drink.
>
PS Of course, as you say, the RBT Gang of Thugs are surplus breathers, without significant economic value. Still, on Dune they'd have the value of their body-water. Hurry up with those rockets, Mr Musk, we have some volunteers for you!
>

[Andre Jute]

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 8:23:35 PM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> tell me more
> about your alleged 30,000 member writers group, such as where I might
> find this mythical group. That would of interest.
>
> Dec 16, 2021
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/js-qqHYeuWw/m/nPyubE7uCgAJ>
> "My assistant has now worked out how to get the actual number of
> members of my writers' group, which turns out at 1905 GMT on Thursday
> 16 December to be 28,695 members, near enough the "rising 30K" or
> whatever I told you."
>

Antagonising me with "alleged" and "mythical" is not likely to make me invite you. I don't have to prove shit to you, sonny. If you don't believe me, prove that I lied. Even a belief that someone as articulate as I am would ever need to lie makes one wonder what is eating your brains away besides old age. HIV? Syphilis? Cancer?
>
Why do you want to know? Are you thinking of becoming a writer and joining, or merely of being a disruptive influence to disturb the smooth operation of the group for my members, simply to hound me? In that case you're no better than the Magnequest Scum or, nearer home, the cowardly netstalker Flunky.
>
Andre Jute
Are we done now?
>

[Tom Kunich]

You have to really think about why people like the stupid five would work so hard against their own best interests. To any living, thinking being, you would think that despite their dislike for me, they would at least act for themselves. But they purposely do not. celebrating the election fraud of Biden which turned our government over to unknown forces is idiocy at its finest and it can't touch me but it most assuredly can destroy what little lives they have. Somehow they cannot grasp that despite their mindless hatred of me I still think of the well being of this country including them. John is too slow to believe that it is going to not touch him but knock him over. Krygowski might be better controlled by his wife but that is doubtful since like tends to stick with like ( save for my wife and I who are polar opposites.) Flunky has told us all that he is a working engineer and yet there isn't a posting that isn't countered immediately. Even a working engineer that is only a figurehead would not have that much time on his hands. Scharf is a joke who well knows that my cousin flew through the elected ranks of a large city next to his. Scharf lasted one election and now couldn't be elected dog catcher. What about Liebermann? Without a doubt he considers himself God's gift to the universe and he thinks himself bright because he uses the biases of Google to oppose my conservative philosophies. With his work history I can only imagine that he must have been an inheritance baby; The question is - what in the hell became of his inheritance. The way he reacted by looking up the price of my house and then implying that it was nothing simply by comparing it to the massive inflation that the Fed has caused since it was bought, forces one to believe that right now and particularly after his medical bills he is broke. So again, why would this groups of shlubs work against themselves purely for spite? Can you just imagine Scharf purposely using cheaper cuts of meat on the supermarket sales page to make me look a liar when the full page shows him to be something beneath contempt?

I have to admit, I simply cannot understand people who hit themselves over the head with a baseball bat thinking that it hurts me.

[Tom Kunich]

He was greatly disturbed when my yacht club would only verify my membership and not dish out some sort of dirt like he believed they had some sort of responsibility to him to do. Again. he hits himself in the head with a baseball bat with the belief that it hurts me. This really is pitiful and I pity the lot of them.

[Andre Jute]

Yes, I asked him at the time of that despicable incident what he thought he was doing implying to a third party that you were lying and that he had a right to demand answers. He had no answers for his despicable behaviour. -- AJ
>

[Tom Kunich]

And he still doesn't.

[John B.]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:14:36 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 3:12:38 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:30:46 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it.
>> >
>> Sure, these poorboy salarymen (a Japanese pejorative for mindless placeholders in the schemes of brighter men) think their assets aren't big enough to be affected by economics, but it's a mistake. Economics is the everyday affairs of man (and woman too!) with a price tag and a philosophy attached to allow quick comparisons.
>> >
>> > [Economics] is a rather boring subject until you actually think about it.
>> >
>> Economics is fascinating after you realise that it is mass motivational psychology with dollar signs attached. Why the RBT scum don't know anything about economics and don't want to know anything about economics is because economists insist on pricing their pet marxist schemes in cost-benefit matrixes and, guess what, Thunberg-Ocasio-Cortez barmaid-commie economics always comes up short. Your girlfriend Yellen (heh-heh!) at least has a grasp of economic linkages (that is, she knows where they are even when she is distracted by ideology into getting their effects wrong).
>> >
>> Andre Jute
>> You can drag a mule named Flunky or Krygo to water, but you can't make it drink.
>> >
>> PS Of course, as you say, the RBT Gang of Thugs are surplus breathers, without significant economic value. Still, on Dune they'd have the value of their body-water. Hurry up with those rockets, Mr Musk, we have some volunteers for you!
>> >
>
>You have to really think about why people like the stupid five would work so hard against their own best interests. To any living, thinking being, you would think that despite their dislike for me, they would at least act for themselves. But they purposely do not. celebrating the election fraud of Biden which turned our government over to unknown forces is idiocy at its finest and it can't touch me but it most assuredly can destroy what little lives they have. Somehow they cannot grasp that despite their mindless hatred of me I still think of the well being of this country including them. John is too slow to believe that it is going to not touch him but knock him over. Krygowski might be better controlled by his wife but that is doubtful since like tends to stick with like ( save for my wife and I who are polar opposites.) Flunky has told us all that he is a working engineer and yet there isn't a posting that isn't countered immediately. Even a working engineer that is only a

>figurehead would not have that much time on his hands. Scharf is a joke who well knows that my cousin flew through the elected ranks of alarge city next to his. Scharf lasted one election and now couldn't be elected dog catcher. What about Liebermann? Without a doubt he considers himself God's gift to the universe and he thinks himself bright because he uses the biases of Google to oppose my conservative philosophies. With his work history I can only imagine that he must have been an inheritance baby; The question is - what in the hell became of his inheritance. The way he reacted by looking up the price of my house and then implying that it was nothing simply by comparing it to the massive inflation that the Fed has caused since it was bought, forces one to believe that right now and particularly after his medical bills he is broke. So again, why would this groups of shlubs work against themselves purely for spite? Can you just imagine Scharf purposely using cheaper cuts of meat

>on the supermarket sales page to make me look a liar when the full page shows him to be something beneath contempt?
>
>I have to admit, I simply cannot understand people who hit themselves over the head with a baseball bat thinking that it hurts me.

" their mindless hatred of me"??

Tommy you rate yourself too highly. Nobody here "hates you", you are
too stupid to hate. No, people here ridicule you as you are so
ridiculous.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Frank Krygowski]

In addition, I feel sorry for Tom. I really do. Only rarely have I met a
person who was so unhappy, so miserable.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 03:12:36 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 5:30:46 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Liebermann, Scharf and Krygowski never had enough money to be concerned enough about economics to study it.

>Sure, these poorboy salarymen (a Japanese pejorative for mindless
>placeholders in the schemes of brighter men) think their assets
>aren't big enough to be affected by economics, but it's a mistake.

Wrong. I worked for hourly wages until 1971 and was on salary until
1983. Between 1984 and 2021, I was self employed and ran my own
business. I'm now retired but still do repair work on the side. You
really should check your facts before denouncing your critics.

I'm well aware of the effects of economics on my financial situation.
When I retired, I originally calculate that I had enough cash to
survive. Social Security payments and Medicare made that possible.
However, the recent high inflation rate, which doubled the cost of
everything, will require some recalculation. While economics has an
affect on my future, politics (both national and international) has a
much bigger effect.

Incidentally, in college, I took two classes in macro/micro economics
and later engineering economics (make/buy/rent/lease decisions). The
latter class was very useful for understanding how finance (time value
of money) calculations work. These were two of my favorite college
classes. I still have the textbook from the engineering economics
class on my bookshelf. I'm not certain if two classes and a lifetime
of working with business and engineering financial calculations is
sufficient for having "studied" the topic.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 03:45:40 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 8:23:35 PM UTC, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tell me more
>> about your alleged 30,000 member writers group, such as where I might
>> find this mythical group. That would of interest.
>>
>> Dec 16, 2021
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/js-qqHYeuWw/m/nPyubE7uCgAJ>
>> "My assistant has now worked out how to get the actual number of
>> members of my writers' group, which turns out at 1905 GMT on Thursday
>> 16 December to be 28,695 members, near enough the "rising 30K" or
>> whatever I told you."

>Antagonising me with "alleged" and "mythical" is not likely to make me
>invite you.

I didn't ask for an invitation. I asked you to prove that such a
30,000 member writers groups actually exists. Until you're able to do
that your writers groups does not exist.

>I don't have to prove shit to you, sonny. If you don't believe me,
>prove that I lied.

I can't prove that your writers group does NOT exist. I can only
point out that you have offered no proof of its existence. Until you
do so, it doesn't exist. Having claimed several times that such a
groups exists, your lack of proof should be sufficient to at least
suspect you of inventing a fake group, which does not exist. I would
call that a lie.

>Even a belief that someone as articulate as I am would ever need
>to lie makes one wonder what is eating your brains away besides
>old age. HIV? Syphilis? Cancer?

I'll concede that you might be a good writer. I just wish you would
write about the various topics under discussion, rather than
desperately trying to change the topic or expand the discussion into
unrelated areas.

>Why do you want to know?

That should be obvious. Your inability to demonstrate the existence
of a 30,000 member writers groups is one of the small number of claims
that you have made in RBT which might be used as proof that you lied.
Your other claims are far more difficult for me to question. Most of
the jobs, positions, acquaintances, famous people, references,
associates, and events you have mentioned in order to embellish your
past are untraceable or sufficiently vague to be difficult to verify.
Your 30,000 member writers groups is one of the few items that can be
traced and identified. I'll leave it to you to demonstrate that it
exists. In this case, absence of evidence really is evidence of
absence.

>Are you thinking of becoming a writer and joining, or merely of
>being a disruptive influence to disturb the smooth operation of
>the group for my members, simply to hound me?

Thank you for providing a limited selection of possible motives. I
have no intention of joining your group. However, I am curious as to
the membership and what they are discussing. I would not want to
disturb your smooth orchestration of the members and will gladly
restrain myself from posting anything which you might consider
disturbing.

>In that case you're no better than the Magnequest Scum or, nearer
>home, the cowardly netstalker Flunky.

Do you consider asking your the same question repeatedly constitute
hounding you? I thinks it's more like persistence on my part, and
evasion on your part.

>Andre Jute
>Are we done now?

No. Hiding a 30,000 member writers group is a formidable task.
Members and former members should be all over the other writers
forums. They should have their own web pages and blogs which mention
your 30,000 member writers group. Secrecy among such a large group is
essentially impossible without draconian measures applied by a small
army of enforcers. However, if you want to end this discussion
quickly, all you need to do is declare that you refuse to disclose its
location or prove its existence. Contrive whatever excuse you find
convenient. You will still be an obvious liar, but the discussion
will be at an impasse and therefore ended until new evidence can be
found.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:23:20 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>He was greatly disturbed when my yacht club would only
>verify my membership

The secretary also refused to verify your membership. Her reply was
brief:

Hi Jeff,
Aeolian yacht club is a private club therefore I cannot divulge any
personal information.

At the time, I chose not to pursue the matter. Do you want me to try
contacting their new CEO (as of 3/17/2021) and see if I can determine
your membership status?

Your claim was that you are a life member of the Aeolian Yacht Club
even though they don't currently offer life memberships:
<http://www.aeolianyc.org>
<https://www.facebook.com/aeolianyachtclub/>
You used a rather suspicious looking lifetime membership card as
proof. I sent a photo to the club secretary. I decided not to post
it to my web pile or RBT. With your permission, I would like to post
the photo of the lifetime membership cart to RBT so others can offer
their opinions on the validity of the membership card. OK?

Also, there are a large number of photos on the Facebook page. I did
a quick skim but couldn't find your photo. At 6ft 4in, you should
have been conspicuous. If you could find yourself in one of the
photos, it would save me the effort of writing the club again:
<https://www.facebook.com/aeolianyachtclub/photos>
<https://www.facebook.com/aeolianyachtclub/photos_albums>

[John B.]

"so unhappy, so miserable"... so crazy?
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Andre Jute]

Anybody who isn't as insensitive as the RBT bullyboys would be disgusted with the behaviour of you scum, Slow Johnny. Check the post immediately above yours, where you fellow scumball Liebermann brags about how he wrote to a third party, libelling Tom. Count your own posts hounding Tom, distorting facts on matters on which you have not even the most crude understanding because you want at all costs to prove him wrong. Did you go to night school to learn to be such slime? -- Unsigned out of contempt for a mental, moral and physical shortass.
>

[Andre Jute]

>
Tell me, Liebermann, what fucking business do you have writing to a third party and libelling Tom with the implication that you don't trust his word? You really are scum. -- Andre Jute