Uploading photos

[Tom Kunich]

It would be nice if Google were to update this software so that we could upload photos. All of the rest of the bike forums allow you though on some of them you have to be a member for a month or more or make so many postings before you're allowed to upload. But judging from the photos that my friend sends me (Betty Big Boobs wearing a string bikini) maybe I can understand why they don't.

[news18]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:34:41 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

> It would be nice if Google were to update this software so that we could
> upload photos. All of the rest of the bike forums allow you

Lol, perhaps you should get a friend to explain what Usenet is and how it
has SFA to do with google, plus, how it is different to a 'forum'

>though on
> some of them you have to be a member for a month or more or make so many
> postings before you're allowed to upload. But judging from the photos
> that my friend sends me (Betty Big Boobs wearing a string bikini) maybe
> I can understand why they don't.

Sady, the 'Great Tits' website has gone offline. It was really good.

[Tom Kunich]

You are aware that this is "Google Groups" aren't you?

[news18]

No Tom, it isn't. Google just presents some Usenet lists as goggle group
entries. Usenet predates google groups and is not controlled by google.

[Sir Ridesalot]

NO, it's not. It's USENET accessed via Google Groups. Usenet predates Google by quite a bit. Usenet started in 1979 and Google started in 1998. That means Usenet predates Google by 19 years.

Cheers

[John B.]

Actually even more as I believe that it wasn't until 2001 that Google
acquired Dega News and access to Usenet.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Sepp Ruf]

John B. wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 00:23:00 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot wrote:
>> On Saturday, 31 October 2020 00:18:48 UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 5:33:10 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:34:41 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice if Google were to update this software so that we could
>>>>> upload photos. All of the rest of the bike forums allow you
>>>> Lol, perhaps you should get a friend to explain what Usenet is and how it
>>>> has SFA to do with google, plus, how it is different to a 'forum'
>>>>> though on
>>>>> some of them you have to be a member for a month or more or make so many
>>>>> postings before you're allowed to upload. But judging from the photos
>>>>> that my friend sends me (Betty Big Boobs wearing a string bikini) maybe
>>>>> I can understand why they don't.

>>>> Sadly, the 'Great Tits' website has gone offline. It was really good.

>>> You are aware that this is "Google Groups" aren't you?

Good grief ...!

>> NO, it's not. It's USENET accessed via Google Groups. Usenet predates Google by
> quite a bit. Usenet started in 1979 and Google started in 1998. That
> means Usenet predates Google by 19 years.

And nobody is banning Tom from using an image hosting site to link to his
photos if he does not trust himself to manage his own webspace.

> Actually even more as I believe that it wasn't until 2001 that Google
> acquired Dega News and access to Usenet.

Dagger News in Arabic, Dogger Bank News in Anglo-Frisian, to be exact.

[AMuzi]

Oh, no it's not.
WTF?
It's Usenet. I don't use any Gurgle at all.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Duane]

You are using eternal-September as I am. I use NewsTap on my devices or
Mozilla on my PCs. I don’t use Google groups. I tried once and don’t like
it. It’s like you say about bikes. Choices are good.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 03:02:45 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Here's a practical question: Who will you complain to if you don't
>like the new interface?

Go to RBT at:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech>
In the upper right of the page, you'll find an icon that looks like a
square flag with an explanation mark inside. Click, and it will take
you to "Report Google Groups Bug".

To be uncharacteristically honest, the only time I use Google groups
is when I'm out of other options for reading news. For a time, I even
had anything posted from Google Groups added to my Forte Agent kill
file, as Google Groups was the source of most of the spam and moronic
traffic in the groups I read.

>Andre Jute
>"Neanderthals" may be too kind

It's probably safe to blame the dead, unless genetic research succeeds
in recreating a genuine living Neanderthal. When that happens, you
will need to revise your racist comment:
<http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge/image_1837e-Neanderthal.jpg>


--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 00:23:00 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot

<i_am_cyc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>NO, it's not. It's USENET accessed via Google Groups. Usenet predates Google by quite a bit. Usenet started in 1979 and Google started in 1998. That means Usenet predates Google by 19 years.

Yep. Just one addition. Google didn't just "join" Usenet. They
bought the Deja New archive in 2001.
<http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2001/02/google-acquires-usenet-discussion.html>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups>
There's quite a bit of interesting trivia from this era, but I won't
go there. Just one relevent item. Google Groups didn't do much for
Usenet until the Google Search (cloud) storage capacity was able to
handle the storage and traffic. Google spent a few years trying to
contrive a way to monetize Usenet with advertising and subscription
based services. That proved difficult when the bulk of the readers
were using Usenet on text only devices. Fortunately, none of that
went anywhere. In about 2007(?), there was a general cleanup of the
Google Groups web interface, which I thought stunk. Worse, at the
very last moment, someone at Google made a formatting change that
trashed postings originating from a news reader that added carriage
returns at the end of every line, instead of letting the Google Groups
do the formatting. Despite protests, it was left in place and
unchanged for many years. I'm not sure what inspired the recent
changes to the user interface, but a quick look shows that all the
analytical information that was previously available is now gone.

If Google turned off Goggle Groups, I doubt that I would notice
(except for some mailing lists that should be on groups.io). I use
Forte Agent on Windoze:
<https://www.forteinc.com>
and Newsgroup on Android:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>
I'm undecided on what to use for Linux. Currently, I'm playing with
SABnzbd which seems like overkill for text only:
<https://sabnzbd.org>

[Tom Kunich]

How do I get access to Usenet without paying any Usenet fees? My address to get here is https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/1WrMbthQiKA

[Tom Kunich]

It was my impression that Sheldon maintained the rec.bicycle groups on his platform and that was eventually transferred to Google

[AMuzi]

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I didn't know it was possible to pay for usenet access.

[jbeattie]

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 1:25:29 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 10/31/2020 2:56 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 5:32:09 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 10/30/2020 11:18 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh, no it's not.
> >> WTF?
> >> It's Usenet. I don't use any Gurgle at all.
> >
> > How do I get access to Usenet without paying any Usenet fees? My address to get here is https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/1WrMbthQiKA
> >
>
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> I didn't know it was possible to pay for usenet access.

Shhhh! I've been charging Tom $18.99 a month for access to GoogleGroups. That's how I got so rich. I'm a hundredaire thanks to Tom!

-- Jay Beattie.

[Frank Krygowski]

> It was my impression that Sheldon maintained the rec.bicycle groups on his platform and that was eventually transferred to Google.

... No ...


--
- Frank Krygowski

[Frank Krygowski]

:-)


--
- Frank Krygowski

[John B.]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 15:25:23 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 10/31/2020 2:56 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 5:32:09 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2020 11:18 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, no it's not.
>>> WTF?
>>> It's Usenet. I don't use any Gurgle at all.
>>
>> How do I get access to Usenet without paying any Usenet fees? My address to get here is https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/1WrMbthQiKA
>>
>
>http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
>I didn't know it was possible to pay for usenet access.

Somebody will likely correct me but I believe that some sites that
offer Usenet charge for the service. Which is likely why the wide use
of "eternal September" and "albasani.net" which are free.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Tom Kunich]

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 1:25:29 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

Most UseNet providers are pretty expensive https://usenetreviewz.com/free-usenet/usenet-access/#:~:text=Top%20100%20ISPs%20in%20the%20USA%20w%2F%20USENET,%20Shutdown%202009%20%2047%20more%20rows%20

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:01:04 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It was my impression that Sheldon maintained the rec.bicycle
>groups on his platform and that was eventually transferred to Google

Nobody "owns" a news group or newsgroup hierarchy. I don't know what
you mean by "platform". On my planet, that's a generic term of
something that looks and acts like a computer.

What I think you mean is that Sheldon created and maintained an
excellent web site:
<https://www.sheldonbrown.com>
When Sheldon died, maintenance of the web site was passed to John
Allen of Harris Cyclery:
<https://www.harriscyclery.net/catalog/harris-cyclery-catalog-39/>
Also see:
<https://sheldonbrown.com/blog/>

None of these have anything to do with the various Usenet newsgroups.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 15:25:23 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>I didn't know it was possible to pay for usenet access.

"Best Usenet providers of 2020"
<https://www.techradar.com/best/best-usenet-providers>
Note that all of those listed charge for the service.

I pay for my Usenet service through SuperNews, which is owned by
Giganews:
<https://www.supernews.com/special/usenet-special/>
I'm on a really old, no longer avaialable, text groups only, NNTP
plan. Mostly, I'm paying for the spam filtering. My typical monthly
download averages 3.5 MBytes. (Yes, that's megabytes, not gigabytes).
Going back in time between 2008 and 2020, my highest month was 10.2
MBytes. I only download what I read.

[news18]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 12:56:40 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 5:32:09 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 10/30/2020 11:18 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> Oh, no it's not.
>> WTF?
>> It's Usenet. I don't use any Gurgle at all.
>
> How do I get access to Usenet without paying any Usenet fees?

What is your operating system?
You will need to get a usenet client/program.
You can websearch for a usenet client for your OS.

FWIW, I'm currently using Pan on Devuan linux.

I could just as easily user Thunderbird, which is a browser, mailer and
usenet client, but it has been a while since I used it.

For free, you need to websearch on free usenet services. Last time I
there were a number, includig eternal-september, AIOEE and others, but
not all of them are reliable.

Note they are only free for basic text usenet, If you want binaries, then
you usually need to pay.

[news18]

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 03:02:45 -0700, Andre Jute wrote:

> Don't hold your breath. Google announced many years ago, not too long
> after they gained effective control of Usenet,

1. NO ONE has control of usenet, especially google. It is a globally
distributed and maintained system of sharing discussion. Your cvan be a
leaf and get all your messages from a node, or if you want to pony up
with the $$$$(for a feed and posting right and equiment), you can be a
node. It is just different programs.

> that they had no
> intention of assigning resources to it and that no update should be
> expected, nor overly much in management. Effectively, they wanted Usenet
> to die. Instead Usenet proved to be a home for the most stubborn
> Neanderthals on the Internet, as you can read in RBT any day of the
> week. Google is right now in the process of reformatting the
> presentation of the groups, so I assume they've given up declaring
> Usenet dead...

Google tried to kill usenet by providing another 'service'. It stunk then
and it still does. It is a base intelligence test of whether people use
google groups or real usenet.
>
> I'd like to know from all these clowns posting knee-jerk responses about
> how Tom is wrong, Google has nothing to do with Usenet, etc, etc, much
> more stupidity -- who do you think paid the salaries of the designers
> and programmers who recently visibly changed RBT, who sent out the
> notices of which I got several, signed by Google, that soon the old
> format will disappear and the new format will be compulsory?

LOL, I don't give a toss about what google does to people stupid enoigh
to use their services. They are talkng about their sheel to usenet and it
does not affect usenet. There wil be millions of people giving googlw thw
finger as they always have,

> (It may
> have happened already, actually, since I can no longer see the choice of
> going back to the original version.) Whatever makes you think you still
> own even a smidgin of Usenet when Google is clearly in effective
> control? Here's a practical question: Who will you complain to if you

> don't like the new interface?

What new interface. I can still use interfaces that date from the UNIX
era.

>
> Andre Jute "Neanderthals" may be too kind

Hahahahahaha. You really are clueless and live in your own reality.
Please don't stop posting. Every time you make posts outlining your
"extensive knowledge of technology", I have a god laugh at the utterley
clueless "name dropping" you indulge in.

[Tom Kunich]

I use the latest iteration of Windows that has built in virus protection etc. I have used Windows since it came out and can't even remember Unix and its variants that I sometimes used in my work. Though normally I would write my own real time operating system where necessary.

[Tom Kunich]

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
>
> Hahahahahaha. You really are clueless and live in your own reality.
> Please don't stop posting. Every time you make posts outlining your
> "extensive knowledge of technology", I have a god laugh at the utterley
> clueless "name dropping" you indulge in.

I would that the clueless not call anyone else clueless. I provided a list that showed that the only one presently carrying usenet was Google. Perhaps you tossers in Australia have your own services but I doubt that they will last long.

[Frank Krygowski]

On 11/1/2020 11:02 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
>>
>> Hahahahahaha. You really are clueless and live in your own reality.
>> Please don't stop posting. Every time you make posts outlining your
>> "extensive knowledge of technology", I have a god laugh at the utterley
>> clueless "name dropping" you indulge in.
>
> I would that the clueless not call anyone else clueless. I provided a list that showed that the only one presently carrying usenet was Google.

How odd. And here I am, posting to Usenet without using Google! :-)


--
- Frank Krygowski

[AMuzi]

We're a zero-Gurgle house here and have accessed usenet
since the mid-1990s. At no charge I might add.

[sms]

You do not have to use Google to access Usenet. I suspect that most
people are now using Eternal September <https://www.eternal-september.org/>.

[sms]

On 10/31/2020 2:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 1:25:29 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

<snip>

>> I didn't know it was possible to pay for usenet access.
>
> Shhhh! I've been charging Tom $18.99 a month for access to GoogleGroups. That's how I got so rich. I'm a hundredaire thanks to Tom!

I'd sell it to him for $9.99 per month, you're ripping him off.

[bob prohaska]

John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Somebody will likely correct me but I believe that some sites that
> offer Usenet charge for the service. Which is likely why the wide use
> of "eternal September" and "albasani.net" which are free.

Alas, both news.albasani.net and www.albasani.net refuse connections and
have for several months. Ping gets answers from both, so the hardware's
still alive, but no service and no contacts of any kind. Eternal-September
still works reasonably well, I'm using it now.

bob prohaska

[John B.]

As am I :-)
And a quick look at message headings shows apparently the majority
here seem to be using "eternal.september"
--
Cheers,

John B.

[news18]

On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 08:02:22 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 8:30:12 PM UTC-7, news18 wrote:
>>
>> Hahahahahaha. You really are clueless and live in your own reality.
>> Please don't stop posting. Every time you make posts outlining your
>> "extensive knowledge of technology", I have a god laugh at the utterley
>> clueless "name dropping" you indulge in.
>
> I would that the clueless not call anyone else clueless. I provided a
> list that showed that the only one presently carrying usenet was Google.

Sigh Is it 'ground hog day' regularly for you?

> Perhaps you tossers in Australia have your own services but I doubt that
> they will last long.

The rest of the world has it and it has been going from the 70's. Didn't
you real all those replies from other people on this group?

[Ralph Barone]

Posting from Canada not via Google. They must only have bought the US
rights...

[goodsoldi...@invalid.junk]

On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 23:18:33 -0000 (UTC), news18 <new...@woa.com.au>
wrote:

You just don't understand. You see Tom sings his own songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EF26khj-fU
--
Cheers,

Schweik

[Tom Kunich]

So are you implying that Schweik is your name of is that the Machiavellian comments that come from extreme far leftists?