The Death of the Oregon Outback.

[hsmitham]

Well here's the scoop. Not the end of the world but a sad commentary on the state of some beings.

http://www.oregonbikepacking.com/the-death-of-the-oregon-outback/

I was planning on riding this in '16 especially after seeing RBW list folks like Brian Hanson, Mark Reimer and others, Flickr, IG & bloggy posts. I'll still ride it one of these days but may give the folks who live on the route a chance to mellow some.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

[cyclotourist]

A huge shame. This looked like the premier event of it's type IMHO. I
hope a more organized version can be created and prosper to keep this
event going.

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[Anne Paulson]

Whenever I see a photo of people's gear for bikepacking, I never see a
poop shovel. Come on, folks. If you're going to be camping at a place
where there are no portapotties or flush toilets, you must dig a
cathole at least six inches deep for your waste.

Rivendell sells titanium pots and bowls. They should sell those
titanium shovels
too:http://sectionhiker.com/qiwiz-big-dig-ultralight-titanium-trowel/

Or these little shovels, that come in all different colors:
http://thetentlab.com/Deuce/DeuceofSpadespage.html

I can't believe those jerks abused the kind barn owner's hospitality
like that. I was going to say, Were they raised in a barn? But if
they'd been raised in a barn, they'd know not to s#** there.

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It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.

[John]

Growing up backpacking, we never had trowels, but even a little kid can dig a hole with a stick, throw garbage in a trash can or pack it out in a plastic bag.

I've seen bad behavior and stupidity ruin access to so many places in my life, this just makes me sad & angry.

Why would people trash & crap all over the nice people that offered them shelter?

Sheeeesh!

John

[Matthew J]

Indeed a huge shame.  A real sense of entitlement among whomever did this.  

[Mark Reimer]

I never pack a trowel, but that's ok because my hands and feet do the job of digging just fine :) Any time I didn't have access to a proper washroom at the outback, it was so easy to find a secluded area 200 feet from the trail to do the business. Takes a few seconds to dig out a proper hole and leave no trace behind. I cannot fathom why anyone would have thought it acceptable to take a dump on their host's front yard. 

I was camping in the same town with the barn, though I stayed in a lovely field behind the fire station with about 50 others. There was a portable toilet provided, and the only store in town stayed open well past midnight to service the riders trickling in. The town was SO accommodating. To find out it was left in such a poor state that they have actually banned camping now is a travesty. 

Throughout the three days of riding, I never personally saw any garbage on the course or bad behaviour/poor manners by anyone. It seemed all in all a great bunch of people who were respectful and just there to have fun. It was very shocking to find out a wake of trash and crap was left in the event's wake.  Definitely sounds like a small group of rotten apples have ruined it for everyone else. 

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 1:27:12 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

[Chris Lampe 2]

This is sad but not surprising.  Even a trip to the restrooms in my place of employment often reminds me that some people should never be let out of their cages.  :(   

[Mike Shaljian]

Apparently this is necessary reading for the aforementioned shit-apples? http://www.amazon.com/How-Shit-Woods-Edition-Environmentally/dp/1580083633

I've got/had plans to do this ride and always figured I'd do it outside of the semi-organized dog-n-pony show anyhow, but this is just really sad news for the bikepacking community. Seems almost like willful sabotage of a really special thing. Or maybe alcohol. Or maybe because we're undergoing devolution. It's just sad and stupid.

[stonehog]

I don't think this was a majority issue - there will always be outlaws in the west, but I agree that most everyone I came across was respectful and thankful for any shelter. The ride isn't anywhere near ruined, it is an unorganized gathering at best. The folks that ruined camping in a few spots will not be allowed to kill the ride for the rest of us.

We were all on our own, make no mistake. And you can and should do rides like this at any time- you don't need the "organizer's" permission any more than you need John Wesley Powell's permission to raft the Colorado. Treat all outdoors as if you are guests/owners (you are), and try to leave it in better shape than you find it, but the worst thing is if folks abandon these rides due to a few jerks. I will be back. Will also do other rides. There will be rebirth (probably by next year). This is temporary, fixable tragedy.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Brian for a reality check. Yes it will continue in some form.

Update: On a reliable source I am told there is a small contingent traveling back down to do a clean up sweep and mend fences. The good outweighing the bad.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Aaron Young]

Good to hear about the clean up crew.  This is what jumped to my mind upon reading that:

http://youtu.be/TGVG4sKLkLs

If only it were this easy to clean up our messes.

Riv content: I'm pretty sure the tire on that moss-covered, three-handled, family gredanza is a Fatty Rumpkin. 

-Aaron Young

The Dalles, OR

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[Hugh Smitham]

Haha, at least the Cat knew to cover it all up by sweeping it under the rug. Maybe this should be the mandatory vid all future OOB riders watch. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[David Banzer]

They could've used some of this: https://youtu.be/cpads8s5mik
David
Chicago

[Aaron Young]

What was that product?  All I saw was a shirt. :)

This Oregon Outback setback really is embarrassing and tragic.  But at least it's a reality check for all of us whether biking, hiking, etc...

Aaron Young

The Dalles, OR

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[Curtis McKenzie]

How sad.  It is not uncommon that success brings a down fall to something really neat.

Curtis

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[Curtis McKenzie]

The Riverside Outback?