Sub 24 Bike Camp Trip

[Addison Wilhite]

Did a little jaunt out to Dog Valley west of Reno just a bit into California on my Riv AR.  Didn't see too many meteors but it was a great ride with some nice scenery.  I needed some beefier tires though.  And a little more fitness.

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/05/a-little-bike-camping-dog-valley.html

Cheers,

Addison Wilhite, M.A. 

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”

Educator: Professional Portfolio

Blogger: Reno Rambler 

Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee

[Montclair BobbyB]

BEAUTIFUL scenery!!!

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic! How wonderful to have your wife join you too. What makes you say you needed wider tires?

With abandon,

Patrick

[Mike Williams]

Nice pics!

Sent from my iPhone

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[hsmitham]

Addison,

Thanks for the share of a beautiful bike over night camp in beautiful country. I'm with Deacon, why do you need wider tires? I'm planning on running 1.95" and I figure those to be plenty wide.

~Hugh

[grrlyrida]

Gorgeous scenery. I need to get out and ride up Mt. Hollywood after seeing those pics. Simply beautiful.

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:47:28 AM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

[WETH]

Beautiful photos of great scenery. It certainly sounded like a great trip. Thanks for sharing.

[Addison Wilhite]

Regarding tire size, what probably does not come through in my post is the rockiness and steepness of the jeep roads and trails we were on.  Obviously it is doable on the somewhat slim rubber, but not preferable.  One of these days I'll actually stop and take a photo of the surface in those parts but I'm usually too busy pedaling or holding on for dear life.

This does bring up a point I've often thought about before in that Riv always seems to post photos of the camping excursions from their general geographic location and it is clear how ideally suited their bikes are to those dirt roads and trails (I've ridden a few).  I've wondered about other smaller bike companies and the tendency to match their designs to the local road/trail surfaces and wondered if one could somehow make a matching game of types of riding to company design philosophies?

This is not a fully formed theory but I recall talking to DeSalvo at the NAHBS a few years ago and him talking about how this particular bike was ideally suited to the roads/gravel he rides in that area (pictured here).

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/03/reflections-on-north-american-handmade.html

Cheers,

Addison Wilhite, M.A. 

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”

Educator: Professional Portfolio

Blogger: Reno Rambler 

Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:43 PM, WETH <erlho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Beautiful photos of great scenery.  It certainly sounded like a great trip.  Thanks for sharing.

[Deacon Patrick]

Makes perfect sense to me, Addison. Now I have the option of a 38 mm under biking experience, I really appreciate it and the challenge it offers for fast, unlaiden rides. IT is fun to pick a line and thread my way as I need to through the more technical sections. But for trips where I need to carry more for whatever reason, it sure is wonderful having the bigger tires and no need to worry.

I definitely noticed a difference between 2.1 and 2.25" tires, so even adding a wee bit makes a difference, though it looks like you are near the endue of clearance on yours?

With abandon,

Patrick

[Addison Wilhite]

That AllRounder frame is a "monster."  I've had 2.2s on it.  These beefy tires would have made my trip a little cushier...and looks pretty cool as well.  :)

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/search?q=monster

Addison Wilhite, M.A. 

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”

Educator: Professional Portfolio

Blogger: Reno Rambler 

Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee

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[Hugh Smitham]

Addison,

I imagine we are talking optimal here. I have ridden my Hilsen with 41~42 mm Fatty Rumpkin's over some pretty harsh jeep roads ( with 25 lb loads) and though not ideal they served me well with no real undo loss of control. Would a modern MTB with 2.25 mm +  tires and ridiculous amounts of travel handle the type of terrain your describing better? Short answer is yes but when I bike camp I figure to dismount and use my LCG. I don't mind walking through a gnarly section. The wider tires may allow you to move quicker though rough terrain and one with suspension even quicker, however I no longer desire to rush past the beauty of my surroundings. 

On a more psychological note, I need to refrain from rationalizing a sliver of advantage and furthering my consumer first world issues. I rationalized after riding Homer with those above size tire's that I needed an Atlantis with larger tires...I could run 55 mm's IIRC but I opted for 1.95" (47mm) as a nice compromise, riding to the dirt via asphalt. I'm sur I could further rationalize the need for a Hung but at some point one needs to draw a line in the jeep trail.

My .02 cents.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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[Hugh Smitham]

And yeah I love the Atlantis/ AR.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[cyclotourist]

I would say yes, geography is built into bike design. There's a reason Surly/Salsa specializes in fat bikes!

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Addison Wilhite <addison...@gmail.com> wrote: