RE: Off topic alert!! Feedback request.

[hsmitham]

Well it's been a while in a world with instagram and it seems no one out there has any experience with these shorts. So as is often the case I'll pony up and try em out.

I purchased the cigarette shorts in dark grey in the old cotton stretch fabric. Gonna take em on tour and see how they perform.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

[Johnny Alien]

I sucked it up an bought a pair in the durable cotton.  I wanted the lighter pair but they had none available on the site in my size and in gray. I had to get the durable pair instead. 

[Hugh Smitham]

So between the two of us we'll have some data to share. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Mike Schiller]

oh... all you hipsters and your cigarette pants....how trendy!  

BW...I have some Marmot shorts in a similar fabric... don't seem to absorb moisture much but I don't ride  in them.   

~mike

Carlsbad Ca.

[Hugh Smitham]

yup that's me trendy ;-/

so far okay but i think they're made for the malnourished. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[tarik saleh]

Whoops,

I could have helped out on this, the cigarette shorts are comically skinny fit if you ask me, they are much narrower in the waist than the same size in the Durable Cotton Regular fit shorts, and are super tight on the legs if you have remotely muscley cyclist thighs.   They are made for skinny folks, no question.  I think people that really like them are very slim and wear them kind of like the missing link between shorts and lycra.

I love the durable cotton regular fit shorts. I have 4 pairs now, the 2 pair I got last year show virtually no sign of wear with pretty extensive use. They are relatively quick dry and very comfortable on long rides. They are slim profile but not skinny fit, which work great for me, I have reasonably large quads and they fit fine. The fabrick is pretty stretchy so it gives you some nice movement on the bike without having to be baggy.

The only caveat is their regular production shorts are NOT made in the USA anymore, they could not scale production up and keep it in LA said they.  They make their black label stuff in LA still I think, but most of the stuff under $100 is made in china I believe.  Lots of their limited edition black label stuff sits between the cigarette fit and the regular fit though. So be careful. I have had extremely mixed luck on black label shorts with virtually no useful fit guidance from the Swrve website. 

Good luck,

Tarik

 

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[Justin August]

As much as I want to love SWRVE, my experience has been horrible in regard to sizing. I like a slim fit but the waists were all over the place and the material would stretch 1-3" upon 1 wear. I'll pass and keep on with the GIRO New Road shorts that I recently got.

-J

[Patrick Moore]

Curious: although I love my cycling-specific jerseys, socks, shoes, shades, and caps, I find cutoff khakis -- loose cut, high waist -- more comfortable for rides up to 30 miles (at least) than any cycling specific but not lycra short I've tried, and that includes the older MUSA one. Worn over loose, low crotch, high rise waist boxers, of course.

What makes these things better for cycling?

[Hugh Smitham]

On Jun 30, 2015 5:22 PM, "Patrick Moore" <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Curious: although I love my cycling-specific jerseys, socks, shoes, shades, and caps, I find cutoff khakis -- loose cut, high waist -- more comfortable for rides up to 30 miles (at least) than any cycling specific but not lycra short I've tried, and that includes the older MUSA one. Worn over loose, low crotch, high rise waist boxers, of course.
>
> What makes these things better for cycling?

Starting to think nothing.

[Hugh Smitham]

Tarik,

Thanks for the feedback.

~Hugh

[tarik saleh]

 Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

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What makes these things better for cycling?
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I like them as they look like shorts, not riding gear, they look neat enough to wear at work. I usually wear them on the way to and from work and at work and on shorter rides on the weekend and riding around town, etc....
They are cut so they are comfy on the bike and the stretch seems to work. They are quick dry over normal cotton. They last much much much bettter than any cotton canvas shorts I wear. I like carhart shorts, patagonia stand up shorts, but they fray at the hem and pockets and seat while riding. The mountain Khaki shorts are better wearing, but still fall apart after a couple summers. The durable cotton SWRV shorts look new still after a pretty solid year of riding, including lots of thorny off road rides. I have an old version of SWRV cotton shorts that I bought in 2011 and are very faded but seem to hold up much better than any of the carhart/patagonia/mountainkhaki options.

So compared to cutoff khakis they look nicer, wear better and may or may not be more comfortable on the bike, probably dry quicker.   They cost a bunch more, but I have piles of shredded carharts and mountain khakis that I bought on sale or at deep discout on STP that have not held up at all.

Later

Tarik

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

Curious: although I love my cycling-specific jerseys, socks, shoes, shades, and caps, I find cutoff khakis -- loose cut, high waist -- more comfortable for rides up to 30 miles (at least) than any cycling specific but not lycra short I've tried, and that includes the older MUSA one. Worn over loose, low crotch, high rise waist boxers, of course.

What makes these things better for cycling?

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[Daniel D.]

My favorite things about GOOD cycling specific shorts/pants.  Crotch doesn't easily snag the nose of my saddle.  Less luck of the draw that there's a stitch/seam/etc that will cause discomfort after a few miles.  Lastly, deeper pockets.

[Justin August]

Stretch in pants/shorts cannot be overstated as an enjoyable part to my cycling experience. Sometimes I think the reason why folks go baggy is they want the lack of restriction, which stretch gives you without adding bulk.


-J, Oakland

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all. So: durability -- no fraying or holes; stretch -- comfort without bagginess; and quick to dry.

I won't add comfort, because my baggy cutoffs are comfortable enough that I don't think about comfort when riding, and again, this up to 30 miles. (I have 3 pr of woolen bike shorts in the hypothetical case of longer rides.)

Nor will I add looks since my old cutoff Gaps and so forth look good.

Hell, even durability: I've got a pair of Gaps that I wore for 10 years as long pants and that are in year 2 as shorts.

Color would be a plus, since the khaki does get dirty easily.

I will keep an eye out for these, for a sale. As it is, for $75 I can buy 5 pr of GW khakis and pay $10/pair to have them shortened. 

It would be nice to have a pair of trim shorts that fit well on a bike -- most bike shorts (non-stretchy) that I've worn are too low in waist and too tight in crotch -- Patagonia one, for example, MUSA (old style) for another.

Frankly, I'm tempted to buy some simply because they look better with jerseys -- more like "traditional" bike shorts -- than my khakis.