Heat Gun to Attach Patches to Bags

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Meade Anderson

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Nov 29, 2015, 7:19:53 PM11/29/15
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Has anybody tried using a heat gun (paint remover) to soften the glue on the back of the patch then pressing it on the bag?  Irons don't work well in many situations especially if you are using them on bags such as Swift Industries.  And yes I am lazy and am trying to avoid the needle and thread method...

thanks

meade (paying for a warm beautiful Thanksgiving weekend with a misty Sunday...)

dougP

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Nov 29, 2015, 8:19:01 PM11/29/15
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The heat gun may be worth a shot.  I tried ironing patches onto my Acorn rando bag & found they don't stick very well.  I believe the bag material is coated & prevents a good bond.  Mine is several years old & has seen enough weather that I was hoping to get enough stick'em from the patches.  I battled with the needle for one but that bag material is so heavy it's a serious struggle.  Broke 3 needles just on the small goathead patch from Bike Tinker.  Time for professional help.

dougP

Shoji Takahashi

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Nov 30, 2015, 9:29:54 AM11/30/15
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You can try shoe-goo (or similar). I think coffeeneur uses that to affix her patches to bags.

shoji
(who has a drawer full of patches and needs to make time to get 'em on the bags.)

Bikie#4646

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Nov 30, 2015, 11:01:03 AM11/30/15
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Meade, I usually like the peace of mind that stitching gives me and usually use a fairly heavy duty needle and thread and a pair of needle-nosed pliers to push it through the heavy material (carefully!). However, on the patch you recently sent with me, I chose a placement on my bag that had an inside tool pocket that precluded the use of needle and thread. After trying a hot iron without success, I heated the patch slightly, then used a hot glue gun on the backside. I was careful not to get too close to the edge (back of) the patch, but not so far that the edge would lift eventually. Then I burnished it while still hot. A small amount of glue creeped outside the patch's edge, but was very easy to scrape off once dry. An important tip would be to not overdo the amount of glue applied, while covering as much of the back of the patch as possible.
Only time (and maybe temperature) will tell if this method works, but it lays flat now. If I could, I would put a small stitch into each corner for insurance.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

Meade Anderson

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Dec 1, 2015, 9:44:38 PM12/1/15
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Paul

I'm dropping off all my bags for you to do the surgery..'er addition of patches...in exchange for new bike routes, brews, cash...or whatever...

I'll  have to pull out the hot glue gun...

see ya

meade


Paul Germain

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Dec 2, 2015, 4:17:17 PM12/2/15
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Meade,

I'd be happy to do the work. I have an industrial hot glue gun and a "hobby" gun, which works pretty well for small jobs like this. Anytime!



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Philip Williamson

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Dec 2, 2015, 5:11:22 PM12/2/15
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Hi Paul,

Thanks for the hot glue tip for patches! 
I stitched two and a half patches onto an old Carradice once, and it was a LOT of work. My last patch I put on a jacket by ironing on, and then putting 5 or 6 stitches around the perimeter. It's gone through the wash once with zero problem. 

I have a fresh green Carradice that needs some patches, and I'll use your hot glue gun trick.

Philip

Paul Germain

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Dec 2, 2015, 5:31:10 PM12/2/15
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You're welcome Philip. As I say, the trick is to be careful not to put too much glue on - just enough that it will not ooze out the edges of the patch when you press / burnish it down. It that happens, I think you can clean it up by gingerly scraping around the patch with a razor blade or the like and the excess should come off. Of course, you need to be quick enough that the glue does not get too hard before attaching it.

A stich or two at the corners would add insurance if you have doubts.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA


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Surlyprof

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Dec 2, 2015, 11:36:38 PM12/2/15
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Has anyone considered contact cement? It has to be spread on both bag and patch. The challenge is to control how much goes on the bag so it doesn't stick out the sides of the patch. I found a glue called Pliobond. I haven't used it on patches but around our house it has reattached shoe soles, holds cushions on chairs and leather on tools. One caution... work in a ventilated space. I think I've shaved a day off my life everytime I uncap the bottle!

John

Surlyprof

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Dec 3, 2015, 2:37:59 PM12/3/15
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...or you could use a No.120 Speedy Stitcher that I just noticed on Riv's site.  http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/awl.htm



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Paul Germain

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Dec 3, 2015, 6:07:42 PM12/3/15
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Wow! I had never noticed that on their site! Very nice.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.


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Marc Irwin

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Dec 3, 2015, 8:17:37 PM12/3/15
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By coincidence I had ordered one of those when this thread started.   I didn't know they existed either and have needed to repair bags, jackets, furniture and other things besides being continually frustrated with every available type of glue for patches.  I just got it yesterday, glued a patch on my saddlebag and today, stitched down the corners so that it will, hopefully, not come loose as in the past.  The Stitcher is really well made, there is a bit of learning curve but nothing a little common sense can't handle.


Marc

Patrick Moore

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Dec 3, 2015, 8:28:54 PM12/3/15
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Marc: I'm interested in getting such a Stitcher and the related sewing cord/thread. Did you get yours online? If so, where?

Thanks, Patrick

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Philip Williamson

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Dec 3, 2015, 10:06:54 PM12/3/15
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I'm getting that!
I need to put toggles onto a duffle coat. And fix a belt.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

Marc Irwin

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Dec 4, 2015, 5:23:24 AM12/4/15
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Rivendell's website.

Marc
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