WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Tim Gavin]

I'm looking for a rear hub.  Let me know what spares you have, or if you know of a great deal.

130 mm OLD 

8/9/10 speed cassette freehub

36 hole

Silver body

Quiet pawls (no loud "angry bee" hubs)

I'd like something high quality; I'm currently riding the Phil freewheel hub original to my '97 Riv and it's butter-smooth (with new bearings). 

I will build it up with a new Pacenti PL23 rim.  I keep denting Synergy OC rims (2 since September, the cheapo ZAC19 I had before was dent free).

I see my new options as:

White Industries T11 or MI5 ~$325

Paul RHUB ~$325 (noisy?)

Phil Wood ~$410

Velo Orange Grand Cru Touring ~$110

Ultegra 6700 ~$100

105 5500 ~$55

Any other good options?  What do I gain (besides MUSA) by going with the Paul or White Industries vs. the Ultegra or Grand Cru?  Are any of the ones I listed noisy, and I don't know it yet?  Also, anyone know a great price for spokes?  Best I see is ~$.80 per (in quantities of 50 or 100).

Items I offer in trade:

Nitto Big Front rack (excellent condition)

Sackville Trunksack Large Olive (good condition)

Revelate Tangle frame bag, Large (brand new)

Nitto Moustache bars, Dirt Drop 8 stem, and Dia-compe non-aero brake levers

Campagnolo Athena 9-speed (old) Ergo brake/shifters -- good hoods, work great, come with free Race Triple RD if wanted (free b/c it has a crack in the mount knuckle). These index shift 9 speed Campy or 7 speed whatever (set up on a freewheel currently).  Works fine with a triple, Race Triple FD also available.

Thanks!

Tim Gavin

Cedar Rapids, IA

[Jim Bronson]

OK, I laughed at that Angry Bee hub comment.  So I get you don't want to buy my used 36H shiny silver Chris King? 

 ;);)

(seriously, I do have one like that I'm not using).

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Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down!

[Tim Gavin]

No, thank you.  They're attractive hubs but their noise bothers me like few things do.  Seriously, I'm a very chill person but I find noisy hubs very irritating.

Also for trade:

Phil Wood freewheel / Synergy wheel set, or just the hubs (new bearings all around).  Rear wheel has a small dent in the sidewall (as mentioned) that I'm going to try to carefully straighten.  Handbuilt by me with DT revolution spokes.  OC rear rim + Phil FW hub = less than 1 mm of dish.

[EGNolan]

If you're willing to go Ultegra/105, I'd say buy a new 8/9/10 Tiagra. 90+% as good as the 105/Ultegra, but can be had for $35...

 

 

Best,

Eric

Indpls,

[Jim Bronson]

I have seen the Tiagara 4600 new for $24 on eBikestop.  

Unfortunately, they are closing their shop so I doubt they can be obtained any longer.

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[Dave Johnston]

Pacenti PL23 is a pretty lightweight rim (maybe the lightest 650b rim on the market), the walls are thinner than Synergy, I think it will offer less dent protection.

I'm a big fan of Shimano rear hubs, especially the ones that are last years or earlier models on closeout. I think shimano hubs are about the quietest of the ratchet systems, wasn't there some brand with a ring clutch though that was even quieter?

Where did you find the 5500 in 36h? I think Riv only has them in 32h for the rear.

-Dave J

[Peter Adler]

In that case, you won't want the White Industries models, either. I've ridden an MI5 on a jury-rigged CX bike for several years, and it out-"angry bee"s CK in ordinary use. It's a great trick for clearing a bike path of less-purposeful traffic; the hub has the sound of Getting Things Done.

I haven't ridden many Shimano freehubs; but frankly, I can't think of any freehub I've ever ridden that I'd call quiet. I take pride in lubing my freewheels as quiet as possible (Suntour and Regina give the best results); but for freehubs, pawl noise seems to be an inherent part of the design.

Peter Adler

Berkeley, CA/USA

[David Johnston]

Ah, I looked it up, here is the Shimano Silent Clutch:

http://www.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/FH/EV-FH-R080-1640A_v1_m56577569830612194.pdf

It came into the market and went silently as well. I'm not sure why,
maybe it was less reliable or heavy, as this blog indicates.

https://blog.dictvm.org/silent-clutches/

-Dave

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[Kieran J]

The Shimano LX hubs (and undoubtedly other models) are quite silent. Almost no pawl noise.

KJ

[Tim Gavin]

Have you tried the redesigned PL23? It's supposed to be a lot stronger than the original design, hence they no longer advise a #185 weight limit.

Thanks for the recommendations, everyone. For the price and the noise factor, I'll probably just get a Shimano hub.

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