Saluki on it's way back

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Tony DeFilippo

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May 17, 2015, 10:58:48 PM5/17/15
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http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/05/re-building-saluki-components-highlights.html

Component glamour shots as I anxiously await my frame.  After almost 9 month's I should be less than 2 weeks away from getting the Saluki back out on the trails.... here is the first of what should be several rapid fire posts on the build.  Everything is ready and waiting so I expect to have her rolling w/in 24hrs of receipt from the powdercoater.  

Today's ride to Port City Brewery in Alexandria on the Bombadil was the perfect thing to keep my mind occupied though.  Great weather all around here in DC lately and I'm looking forward to getting in several solid commuting days this week.  More soon!

Tony


Elisabeth Sherwood

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May 18, 2015, 6:02:50 AM5/18/15
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Hi Tony,

I don't remember your writing about your crash last year! Sounds bad... Or, at least, it sounds like the effect on the Saluki was bad. What happened (to you and to the Saluki)?

-- Liz

Tony DeFilippo

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May 18, 2015, 6:21:57 AM5/18/15
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I had a fork crown bolt shear or loosen enough to allow my berthoud front rack (with loaded Wald basket) fall forward and lock the front wheel... I stopped instantly and went over the handlebars. It collapsed the fork and I ended up breaking a small elbow bone which healed quickly.

I got the frame checked out and aligned by Chris Bishop in Baltimore, then got a new fork ordered from Riv (before they started selling all the forks cheaply) and now I'm just waiting to get it back from the powder coaters so I can reassemble.

I was pretty lucky, no other bikes or pedestrians were involved and I was on a bike path not a busy street. Keep an eye on your rack hardware! :)

Elisabeth Sherwood

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May 18, 2015, 7:23:18 AM5/18/15
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Oh, wow!  Very glad it wasn't worse...

blakcloud

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May 18, 2015, 9:22:48 AM5/18/15
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I am glad to hear you survived the accident. I had something similar with a fully loaded porteur rack with Wald basket break at the springboard. I was lucky and stayed upright as my bike was like a plow. Then I saw a trick on the Riv site of putting a toe strap around the rack and the head tube. This worked great when the springboard broke a second time and the strapped held it in place. At that point I got rid of both my porteur racks.

As for your new build, I see you are using a single ring, are you going with nine in the back? Second question, are you going to use a chain keeper to minimize any chain drops of the front?

Looking forward to seeing your final build.


WETH

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May 18, 2015, 9:53:20 AM5/18/15
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Excellent news, Tony.  I look forward to seeing the build process unfold and eventually getting in a ride with you.


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Deacon Patrick

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May 18, 2015, 9:55:56 AM5/18/15
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Ouch! Glad you're OK. That strap idea is a good one.

With abandon,
Patrick

Tony DeFilippo

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May 18, 2015, 10:25:21 AM5/18/15
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Blakcloud - I've seen that toe strap idea on Riv's site as well and think it's a good one.  The Berthoud rack was kind of like a Nitto R-14 but for the front so when it was no longer attached to the fork crown it naturally was able to swing down/forward.  I'll not use one like that again.  Rigid/non-hinged support struts and a fork crown thru bolt that is integral to the rack are requirements as far as I'm concerned now.  As for the single ring, I'm going 8 speed in the back, cheap chains and cassettes, easier friction shifting and I don't miss the extra gear.  I didn't notice a problem w/ chain keeping once I went to the WI SS ring, it's not one of the newer 'wide-narrow' versions but I'll probably skip the chain keeper unless it becomes a problem.

Thanks Erl and Patrick!

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Rod Holland

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May 19, 2015, 11:54:22 AM5/19/15
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Tony,

Do you think the Nitto M-18 or Mark's Rack share this failure mode?

rod

Tony DeFilippo

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May 19, 2015, 12:58:43 PM5/19/15
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Yes, if you loose the fork crown bolt for some reason and your rack is loaded the only place for it to go is forward/down onto the wheel or onto the ground (depending on the strut length).  Both of those have a fully enclosed hole on the fork crown tab though.  The Berthoud had a curious feature where the fork crown tab just had a 'U' to house the bolt.  With that 'U' it meant that even a loose fork crown bolt and not full removal could result in the rack falling forward.
 
Lot's of people have used that Berthoud rack w/o problems I'm sure, I did for nearly a year.  If you check your hardware pre-ride and add a safety like the Riv toe strap idea I think it's probably good to go. 
 
A Canti stud rack like the M-12 seems to have less potential for something going wrong in my opinion.
 
 

Tim Gavin

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May 19, 2015, 1:43:07 PM5/19/15
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Yes, there is little to go wrong with the M-12.  No moving parts.  It's the cheapest Nitto front rack, while it's also strong and lovely.  It's a great option where it fits, and the Sackville Trunksack Small is a perfect match.

Sorry to hear about your crash, Tony.

Tim

Minh

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May 19, 2015, 1:45:30 PM5/19/15
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Hmm nylock bolt would have prevented this?

Montclair BobbyB

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May 19, 2015, 1:46:53 PM5/19/15
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Glad you're OK, Tony... And if you're gonna build it, might as well do it RIGHT!!!  Those are some choice components...  Can't wait to see it back together.  BB

Tony DeFilippo

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May 19, 2015, 2:24:59 PM5/19/15
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Thanks Bobby, Tim and Minh!  It's going to be pretty sweet.  And yes Loctite/nyloc will be used wherever applicable! :)

Steve Palincsar

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May 19, 2015, 5:11:04 PM5/19/15
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This mishap was an installation failure, not a rack design issue.


Tony DeFilippo

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May 21, 2015, 11:19:37 PM5/21/15
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Just confirmed the frame arrived at home today... Good thing I'm returning from a work trip tomorrow morning. 'New' bike day tomorrow!!

Tony DeFilippo

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May 22, 2015, 10:04:27 AM5/22/15
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Nice to have the bike back.  Pictures of the frame on my blog; http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-salukis-back.html .  I'm happy with the color and the semi-flat topcoat, I wish the lug window painting had a bit more care to it but I'll be able to touch that up myself.  I hung the first part on the frame before I got back to work this morning so the build is officially started!



Ginz

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May 22, 2015, 10:13:32 AM5/22/15
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I'm using a recessed nut on my M-12.  Going to loctite it when I get home.


Bill

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May 22, 2015, 11:26:25 AM5/22/15
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Looks mighty good. The green and cream brings back fond memories of a Saluki I once owned. Now get it assembled and back on the road where it belongs. That first ride will suggest that you should sell all your other bikes and keep this one. That's what my Purple People Eater as someone calls it tells me every time I ride it.

Bill "repeat Saluki offender" Eberle
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Tony DeFilippo

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May 22, 2015, 2:44:08 PM5/22/15
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Thanks Bill!  

Your ears must have been burning I was just thinking about you as I was loading the XO-3 into the stand to donate some of it's parts to the Saluki rebuild!  Never fear it will be built back up - back to M-bar's I think.  The Saluki should get a test roll around the neighborhood later tonight.  I've got the HS, BB, crankset and brake calipers installed so far...  once I harvest the saddle/post, albatross bars and pedals off the XO-3 I'll be back in business.

I held up the old fork (w/ the original nice green paint) up to the new one a minute ago and they are pretty close actually.  Just that the new coat has a dull finish instead of sparkling.

I'd love to see some pic's of the Purple People Eater sometime!

Tony



Lungimsam

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May 22, 2015, 4:25:55 PM5/22/15
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Congrats on getting the frame back, Tony!
 Wow! Are those dyno light wire braze-ons from RBW, or did you get them brazed on while they were repairing the fork?

Deacon Patrick

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May 22, 2015, 4:40:46 PM5/22/15
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The bottle cage is always the hardest part of the build! Grin. I look forward to seeing the build and more forward to ride reports and photos and exploits! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

Tony DeFilippo

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May 22, 2015, 5:55:46 PM5/22/15
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Back on the road!  More to do, especially the fenders, racks and dyno lighting but I'm going for a quick ride and doing some Happy Hour to ring in the Memorial Day weekend.  Enjoy everyone, happy riding this weekend!

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/05/rolling-again.html


Steve Palincsar

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May 22, 2015, 6:26:09 PM5/22/15
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Good job, Tony!


WETH

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May 23, 2015, 1:17:14 PM5/23/15
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This is a beautiful weekend to ride it. Congrats.

Shoji Takahashi

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May 23, 2015, 9:28:41 PM5/23/15
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Looks great, Tony. Enjoy the ride!
shoji

Lungimsam

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May 24, 2015, 3:12:27 PM5/24/15
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Impressive!! That was a fast build!!
I am always impressed by people who can full wrench on their bikes. So cool! 

Tony DeFilippo

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May 26, 2015, 10:18:53 PM5/26/15
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Thanks Dave, Shoji, Erl and Steve!



First commute on the re-built Saluki this morning went great. Glorious weather, a warm afternoon but I had a late work release anyway.  The bike did great, the fenders and Bruce Gordon racks were flawless.  I'm pretty stoked about the build and bummed I won't be able to ride in the next two days. Friday here I come!




WETH

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May 26, 2015, 10:29:32 PM5/26/15
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Those fenders came out nicely! You are right about the silky feel of a new drivetrain! Beautiful bike. Congrats!

Carla Waugh

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May 28, 2015, 9:22:43 AM5/28/15
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Your bike is beautiful!
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