Commuter Tire for Hunq

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Dave Grossman

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Jun 9, 2020, 10:06:52 PM6/9/20
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I want to replace the 28x2 Big Ben's on my Hunq.  I use it primarily for errands and commuting right now.  I was debating getting a set of Marathon Supremes.  As I haven't purchased "commuter" tires in a while, I'm wondering if there is something better out there.

Deacon Patrick

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Jun 9, 2020, 10:19:23 PM6/9/20
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Dave,

I presume you mean 29 (700) x 2? Have you liked your Big Bens?

You may want to be more specific in what is important to you (smooth, supple, or no flats ever as the two extreme examples). Folks here commute on Rene Hearse ELs, or the beefiest Schwalbe there is. Here is the dizzying array of Schalbe touring tires: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires

Of course, with Rene Herse's Endurence + tires, you can have better flat protection in a still quite supple tire.

Personally, I go with the most supple tire I can without needing to change more than 4 flats a year. So far that generally means 2 flats or less a year and the most supple tires. Now that I've written this and am aproaching needing to change out my rear tire I've doomed myself to a flat here soon. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

Dave Grossman

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Jun 9, 2020, 11:23:05 PM6/9/20
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I believe a 29er or 700c is known as a 28 in Europe.  As such, Schwalbe designates their "29er" tires as "28"..........................

I have liked them a lot actually.  I have used quite a few Schwalbe tires over the years, including Marathon, Marathon Plus, Marathon Supreme, Big Apple, Fat Frank, Kojack, Sammy Slicks, Thunder Burts, Big Ones.........the list goes on.  The Big Ben was up there with usual Schwalbe characteristics of long lasting, great puncture protection, good grip, etc.  They aren't the lightest tires, but this isn't a race bike either.

I haven't purchased new tires in a few years so I am totally out of the loop as to what is new.  I know the Rene Herse/Compass are all the rage but I can't spend that much on tires.  

As for my preferences, I most want a combination of decent weight, puncture protection, and low rolling resistance.  


Garth

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Jun 10, 2020, 4:30:06 AM6/10/20
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Dave,  For your use and considering you like the tires ... what's not broken can't be fixed.  



Edwin W

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Jun 10, 2020, 6:20:46 AM6/10/20
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I like a marathon supreme on the rear (less than one flat per thousand miles compared to four in a thousand miles on compass) and a compass on the front (fronts rarely flat).
Going pretty well for a while now.
Trying not to jinx myself.

Edwin
Nashville

Deacon Patrick

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Jun 10, 2020, 7:54:02 AM6/10/20
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Sounds like Big Bens for the win!

With abandon,
Patrick

Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)

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Jun 10, 2020, 11:04:30 AM6/10/20
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I love the Continental Sport Contact tire for commuting (what Riv calls the "basketball tire"), but I think the largest size is 700cx42. 

Marc Irwin

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Jun 10, 2020, 12:00:38 PM6/10/20
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I did not enjoy Marathon's or Marathon Supreme's when I used them.  The Marathon's were heavy, slow and I had quite a few flats.  I think the Big Ben is the perfect tire for my Hunq to do anything I care to do, including commuting.


Marc


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Jonathan D.

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Jun 10, 2020, 1:18:49 PM6/10/20
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I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they fit.

Patrick Moore

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Jun 10, 2020, 2:20:32 PM6/10/20
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Jonathan: If the OP doesn't want them, I may want them.

Questions:

1. Are these 700C or 650B?

2. What model of G One are these? I am looking for the very lightest, thinnest, most flat-prone model.

3. If 700C and lightest, and if you should consider selling to me, how much would you want shipped to 87120?

Thanks.

Patrick Moore

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I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they fit.

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Fryfam

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Jun 10, 2020, 2:46:19 PM6/10/20
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Have you looked at the Schwalbe G One Speed version? Love these light and supple tires (I use 35 and 38 widths); have yet to experience a flat. OneStar compound far superior ime: https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/G-ONE_Speed


On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:20:32 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
Jonathan: If the OP doesn't want them, I may want them.

Questions:

1. Are these 700C or 650B?

2. What model of G One are these? I am looking for the very lightest, thinnest, most flat-prone model.

3. If 700C and lightest, and if you should consider selling to me, how much would you want shipped to 87120?

Thanks.

Patrick Moore

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I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they fit.

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Patrick Moore

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Jun 10, 2020, 2:48:28 PM6/10/20
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The Speed is undoubtedly, the version I want, and that's why I'd like to know from the seller what model is being sold. I use the Speed equivalent in my present Big Ones; wonderful.

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Joe Bernard

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Jun 10, 2020, 4:20:35 PM6/10/20
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For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks. They will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats, but light and fun they are not.

ANDREW ERMAN

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Jun 10, 2020, 4:35:21 PM6/10/20
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Marathon Plus tires are great on an E bike with a lot of power.  

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For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks. They will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats, but light and fun they are not.

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Edwin W

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Jun 10, 2020, 4:55:41 PM6/10/20
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Joe,

I don't think my marathon supremes are bricks, so I went to see what Schwalbe offers and found so many marathons!! The heaviest Marathon plus MTB is listed at 1270g* per tire (how much does a brick weigh, anyway?), to the Marathon E plus (930g), Marathon Plus HS440 (900g), Marathon Plus Tour HS404 (890g), Marathn GT HS480, GT Tour HS 485, and GT 365 HS475 (all listed as 765g),  is your mind spinning yet, mine is, to the Marathon HS420 (the original, 730g), Marathon Mondial HS 428 (570g), Marathon Almotion HS453 (500g), Marathon Almotion HS603 (490g), Marathon Racer HS429 (465g - called on their webpage the "lightest marathon," but apparently not in this size) and the Marathon Supreme HS469 (440g). 

Whew!! Who thinks that many models is a good idea????

Liking my marathon supreme 50-622 640g evolution line, folding bead tire for the rear of my bike,

Edwin
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*all weights are for 35-622 ex the MTB doesn't have that size

Joe Bernard

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Jun 10, 2020, 5:12:31 PM6/10/20
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True, Edwin, my comment can't possibly apply to every variation that moniker has been applied to. In the words of Neil Young, "Take my advice, don't listen to me." 🤷

Irving

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Jun 10, 2020, 11:05:41 PM6/10/20
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Another vote for Marathon Supremes (this time with some photo evidence).

They are good, remind me a lot of Vittoria Randonneur/Voyager Hypers that were basically slick, felt fast, had good flat protection and lasted for thousands of miles without feeling dead like other Marathons.

Irving
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ascpgh

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Jun 11, 2020, 5:59:34 AM6/11/20
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While comparing two different tires on a Hunq, I've been commuting on my Rambouillet while my Disc Trucker has been adjusted to and in use by a friend right now. The tires are hardly the only difference between the two but the Schwalbe Marathons (of who know what iteration other than the ebike-ready labelling) are dreadnoughts compared the the RH Stampede Pass ELs on the Ram. 

Pedalling and coasting ease of the light tires, over each centimeter travelled, is such a reward that I'll choose the penalty of puncture risk this time of year. Once I'm back to trudging through the darkness in the tunnel of my lights I'll remit to the other bike and it's 700 x 40 Marathons, mostly because it has room under fender for my snow tires. I didn't have to mount them at all this last winter, so the jig may be up on that proposition.  Might have to part ways with that whole bike, buy some Steilacooms and call it a day.

Once I've had the joy of low rolling suppleness on my commute I've found myself very aware of the energy necessary to turn those "puncture resistant" tires and wheels. I won't even go into the simple and effective Racer brakes on the Ram. Another thread. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

Ginz

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Jun 11, 2020, 9:56:31 AM6/11/20
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I just mounted a set of Marathon Green Guard 26" x 2" on Sun CR-18 rims and they and they measure a disappointing 1.75", barely larger than my labeled 26" x 1.75"s.  

I may sell them (mounted but unridden).  Maybe I should have gone Big Apple 2" or 2.15"?

That said, I would look at the true specs of the Marathons and make sure you are getting the actual size you desire relative to the Big Bens.

Ginz

Kurt Manley

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Jun 11, 2020, 10:25:37 AM6/11/20
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I really liked 700x60 G-One speed tires when I had my Hunq. Rolled nice and I don't think I got any flats with them.


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Steven Sweedler

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Jun 11, 2020, 10:34:55 AM6/11/20
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I would choose the largest Big Apples that fit. I tour on 26” x 2.35 and they  have been flat free (KOW)  Steve

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Patrick Moore

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Jun 11, 2020, 10:57:37 AM6/11/20
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+ 1 for the Big Apples. They're not nearly as nice as the Big Ones I've been using for a couple of years, but for such flat-resistant tires they roll very well indeed. I used both the regular and the "LiteSkin" versions with tubes and they were practically thornproof on dirt, and let only, roughly, 1 thorn out of 20 penetrate on pavement. I'd come out of the bosque with, literally, scores of thorns embedded in the tread, brush them off, and ride home, and have no air loss after a day or several days.

One did feel the weight when pointing the bike uphill.

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I would choose the largest Big Apples that fit. I tour on 26” x 2.35 and they  have been flat free (KOW)  Steve

John Phillips

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Jun 11, 2020, 12:36:31 PM6/11/20
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   I have had good luck with Schwalbe Supremes & Almotions, tubed not tubeless. I have 55-622 Almotions on my Hunqapillar at the moment, but I haven't tried the very latest version of the Almotions with the Addix rubber.

John

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