1x11 Rivendell!

[Bill Lindsay]

Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I like it!  I might go ride it!

[William R.]

I'm with you Bill! I can't stop looking at it! The proportions with the bullmooses look perfect. Like it will just leap off on it's own! Even though I am 6 foot with a pbh of 88 and 78 saddle height, I think that 54 would be a good nimble fit for me. I just want to run up, jump on and go!

[Ryan Fleming]

That is one swell-looking bike....holy moly

[Chris Lampe 2]

That's my dream Rivendell.  A 54cm Hunqapillar with Bullmoose and 1x drivetrain!!!   The only difference is that my dream Hunqapillar is a bit more color-coordinated than that one.   

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[Robert Barr]

Ask Deacon Patrick or me - hard to improve on a Hunqapillar. Although I confess the bike doesn't look right to me without the digatube, Bob

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[rw1911]

Wow!  Nice looking bike!  With an 89ish PBH, I'm at the top of a 54, but could probably make it fit.  Anyone interested in buying my Riv Road and Rambouillet So that I can afford this beauty?  :-)

[Tom Harrop]

That is such an attractive bike. My MTB bomba (64 cm) is a similar overall build but the proportions on that smaller bike just look so much better.

[Deacon Patrick]

I love my poser 1x 38 narrow-wide front ring. Poser because it's a derailerless triple in with the large ring is a rock guard, the middle is my nearly all the time narrow-wide, and my small is a 24t granny for steep bikepacking.

I don't get understand the aesthetic preference for a smaller frame with the bigger/fatish wheels/tires over a bike that's the right size with the same fattish tires. But then I don't get grains, or soap, or shoes either so I'm hardly bellweather on the getting of anything! Grin.

Here's the poor, under appreciated, cast to the dire wolves, tall, aesthetic mammoth with diagitube for Bob in one of many favorite natural settings with Iris in an impromptu late-spring highland bog. Grin.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/18718549461/in/dateposted-public/

With abandon,

Patrick

[Robert Barr]

Looks right at home Patrick!

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[Jeremy Till]

My first thought upon seeing that was "I'd shred the sh*t out of that thing."  In the appropriate size for me, with diagatube, of course.

[Patrick Moore]

It's a lovely bike. But there is a practical reason for dramatically sloping top tubes: when you do a panic dismount on technical singletrack with the bike's wheels hiked up on some obstacle, the dramatically lower top tube can avoid a sudden blow to sensitive parts.

Patrick Moore, futzing with his front disk brake in ABQ, NM

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[Deacon Patrick]

I don't think I came with the sensitive bits. Grin. Or perhaps I don't ride aggressively enough. Double grin.

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Patrick

[Lungimsam]

That's a cool idea to eliminate a FD and two chainrings from the front end!! Weight savings and no left hand shifting either!

I bet that cassette big ring looks like a discus from the non-drive side of the bike.

Telephone at Shimano HQ:
Brrrrrrriiinggggggg

Shimano rep: hello, stockist from Rivendell!

RBW Stockist: ...Shimano?..,,Were gonna need a bigger dork-disc!...

Could this mean the end of FD"s and double/triples on stock RBW builds?

[Lungimsam]

The only downside I can think of is that you may not be able to friction shift over an 11-speed cassette well if the spacing is narrow.

Wonder what the weight savings balance is, though?
-1 silver shifter and pod
-1 cable
-1 ferrule
-1 housing
-1 front derailer/adapter
-1 to 2 chainrings
-1 lube for cable
-1/2 cable route under bb
-1 grease/beeswax for front silver shifter parts
+1.5 extra turn of bartape to push into vacant bar end hole.
+1 cork for the bar end
+3 bigger cassette cogs.
Looks like the 1x setup is lighter weight setup.

[Robert Barr]

I can't speak to the weight, I commute on the Hunq and routinely put 10 pounds of books, papers, and laptop on it. I went with the XD2 wide/low double crank and the Shimano HG 61 12-36 rear for simplicity. Like Deacon I skipped the front derailer. In my case I use the 40t and have the 26t because it came with the 40 and I might decide to try and climb a wall some day. The setup was much discussed here when Riv started offering the double. Bob

[David Yu Greenblatt]

Vacationing in Whistler, this morning I went on a bike ride with my daughter on rental "valley bikes", i.e., entry-level Giant MTB-shaped objects with placebo suspension forks. In Whistler Village we happened upon the Crankworx Demo/Expo plaza, and the kind folks at the Giant tent let us borrow some fancy new genuine MTBs which we took to the nearby Lost Lake trails for a couple hours. My Giant Reign Advanced Enduro Shred Sled was festooned with the new Shimano XT M8000 gruppo including the 1x11 drivetrain shared by the Blug Hunq. The shifting and braking were superb. If you can live with the limited gear range, 1x11 is nice. For really steep climbs, however, 34x40 is not low enough for me. On my personal 650b MTB with SRAM 1x11, I typically use a 30 tooth chainring and a 10-42 cassette. The new XT cassette does come in an 11-42 flavor. 

David G of San Diego

On Aug 7, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:

Check the BLUG for a floor demo Hunqapillar with a 1x11 drivetrain.  I like it!  I might go ride it!

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[Garth]

      Hmmmm , absolutely not .  I for one love using my left hand , and having a FD and multiple rings . 

 While understand that everyone wants to be "right" ,  haha ;) , I find this a bit extreme in the "right" hand.  I for one revere my the left hand as much as the right and the balance of the two together, the FD as much as the RD, the small ring(s) as much as the large.  Heck, it's a bicycle !  The only limits to it are really your own understanding of ourself .

   So while I prefer a multiple setup , for those that want to ride a 1xwhatever or 2,3,4xwhatever , hey . . .  it's all good , it's bike for goodness sake .  When it comes to the bike , the only "One Way" or should I say say "Perfect bike setup" , is the Unlimited , Unconditional and Infinite Way !

[Ron Mc]

it's not the be-all, end-all, but it's a neat idea and makes a great demo.  I like having 5" steps from 65" to 85", and you may not be able to do that on a 1x drivetrain and still have a good spread.  

[Matthew J]

> Looks like the 1x setup is lighter weight setup. 

The bike I use for heavy loaded touring is a 1x6.  Presumably it is somewhat more light than if I had front gear set up.  Did not give that any thought setting up though.  Simplicity and less maintenance.

I'm not one to shift a lot while on tour (or any riding for that matter).  Even when I had a full 20 gear set up, I found I only used three gears when I did my big West coast to Chicago trip back in '04.  Obviously other riding styles may not find the 1x optimal.

[Patrick Moore]

Being a fan of "occasional doubles" -- meaning a drivetrain that is used mostly as a 1 X X but that has a granny ring bailout -- I've noticed that this type of gearing lacks the convenience of a middle ring for low-to-mid-range gears useful for steep singletrack where you want to shift rapidly from the 20s to the 50s. If I switch to 10 in back, adding a 32 behind the current 27, I may bump up the 24 to a 28 or so in order to have this sort of higher range in the inner ring while keeping the 25" low.

Like Ron, I like small steps in the middle ranges, on this dirt biased bike (Fargo) between about 60" and 75".

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[Chris Lampe 2]

I could never get friction to work to my satisfaction with a 9-speed drivetrain so I can't imagine what 11-speed would be like.  

I converted my 3x9 to a 1x9 and the actual weight of all the stuff I took off was one pound.  

[RJM]

It's a very nice looking set up for a Hunqapillar. My current mountain bike (full suspension) has 10 speed xt stuff and it is a pretty sweet group, but it has the double up front. I have managed to drop my chain a few times on that set up but after tweaking the limit screws I fixed the issue. I could see going with a 1x setup for some of the trails I ride and the gearing on that pictured Hunq looks like it would fit the bill nicely. That's just a really nicely executed build.

 

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[Ginz]

It's a very cool bike.  The slight downside to a 1x11 is that it is a bit hard to dump a lot of gear quickly.  You have to click click click quite a bit.  If that bothers you, consider a 2x10.  I'm MUCH happier with a 2x10 than I was with a 3x9.  The clutch ders have helped, too, because you aren't compelled to shift to the big ring to stop chain slap.

[Philip Kim]

used to run a 1x9 friction my Camargue. 36 front with 11-36. With the XT RD that riv sells, you don't really need a chain keeper, though I put a narrow wide wolftooth up front. It was super easy to use, but running 38/26 now since I've been biking less....

[Evan Baird]

I love this setup. I've been a fan of the 1X since about 2003, and the new 1X11 is definitely much smoother and more reliable than any of the cobbled together solutions I've tried in the past. I'm interested to try the Sram GX on some flatbar cx/mixed builds and see how people like it. I'm glad they still offer a grip shifter, because they work great and look so clean.

[Bill Lindsay]

Yesterday, errands led me out to Walnut Creek and lo and behold I did get to ride that 1x11 Hunqapillar.  It was dynamite, as you'd expect.  It's a little weird with the trigger shifter, asking myself "is there another gear?....click....ok, is there another gear?....click" over and over and wondering if I'd ever get to the end of the cogset.  

As usual, the brake cantilever brake setup was spot-on-perfect.  The rest of us are doing it wrong.   

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:51:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[Patrick Moore]

My experience with the one pair of cantis that Rivendell set up and that I used. The best brakes, all around, that I have ever -- ever -- used. I wish I knew the secret.