My Nitto S-83 doesnt fit Brooks rails

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mikel...@juno.com

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Oct 9, 2013, 7:47:44 PM10/9/13
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i tried 3 of my ti B17's and the rails dont fit, too narrow. is this typical of the S-83?

mike goldman
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RJM

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Oct 9, 2013, 8:07:20 PM10/9/13
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Mine works fine with my b17s, but they are specials and select models, not ti.

Kieran J

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Oct 9, 2013, 8:25:57 PM10/9/13
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My GF has an S-83 sporting a B17s on her bike. Seems to fit fine.

KJ

Corwin

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Oct 9, 2013, 9:21:17 PM10/9/13
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Hi Mike -

I have a Berthoud Galibier ti saddle. I was also confused when the rails seemed to be too narrow to fit on my Nitto S83. I contacted Boulder Bicycle  who sold me the saddle and was told that I needed to gently persuade the rails into the grooves of the seat post.

I think that could be your problem as well.

Good luck!


Corwin

Jeremy Till

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Oct 9, 2013, 9:43:10 PM10/9/13
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The problem isn't so much the S-83 as the B17's--they are commonly a little bit narrow and are drawn apart as you tighten the clamp.  No biggie. 

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jphil...@me.com

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Oct 11, 2013, 3:47:24 PM10/11/13
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I've had this trouble w/ a couple of Brooks saddles. If you remove the seat post and hold it in your lap or on a table, it is a bit easier to slowly tighten the bolt and gently force the rails to fit the seat post.  I tighten the seat post bolt first in the middle, and then at both ends of the rails. Once done, there's no problem mounting the saddle on a seat post.

Hope this helps,

John 

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Bill Lindsay

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Oct 11, 2013, 4:16:09 PM10/11/13
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I'm just imagining the wealth of owning at least 3 Titanium railed Brooks saddles.....

Did you try 3 of 5?  3 of 20?  3 of 36,000?  The mountains of wealth!

Anyway, like others I run a B17 standard on an S-83, both bought from Riv, no rail width issue.


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Tim Gavin

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Oct 11, 2013, 6:52:44 PM10/11/13
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Yeah, geez.  :)  I feel lucky owning 3 lugged steel bikes.


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grant

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Oct 12, 2013, 2:05:54 AM10/12/13
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Over the years (but not in the last ten years) we've gotten back half a dozen Brookses that didn't fit Nittos, and it was never the Nitto, they were always off by low single-digit millimeters, and always fell into place with a little forcing at the beginning. Although I speak their language better, when it comes to QC and precision, I'd vote for a forged Japanese part over a hand-fitted British one...generally.


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Michael

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Oct 12, 2013, 10:44:20 AM10/12/13
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So is it safe to let the seatpost clamp guide the rails into place?
 
If I remember correctly, all my Brookses were 1m off or so, and I just let the clamps guide the rails in as I tightened.
 
I once saw an instruction seat for a Terry saddle that was real persnickety in warning the consumer that the rails had to fit perfectly into the clamp. Both fore and aft as well as side to side. They seem to want their saddles to get mounted on a clamp that fits their saddles just so.
 

Eric Platt

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Oct 12, 2013, 8:45:36 PM10/12/13
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I've had to ease Brooks saddles into seatposts in the past.  Not just Nitto.  I use Terry saddles and try to be a bit more careful with the setup there.  Possibly because the Cro-Mo rails are hollow?  They are sturdy as I've never had a problem with a rail bending and have banged them around getting them on a Thomson seatpost.
Eric Platt
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Oct 13, 2013, 1:32:24 AM10/13/13
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I think if Terry people could see the violence required to bend the rails in the first place, they might not quibble about a little gentle urging to make it slide into the post. Often, when the Brits are involved, there is no "plug and play."
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