The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[lungimsam]

Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes weigh.

 

Would be informative to know:

1. Model

2. Framesize

3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).

4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not expected.

 

I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.

So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 

And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.

 

[Marc Irwin]

I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.

[Chris Chen]

Well that was easy.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9096121718/in/photostream/

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[cyclotourist]

Where did you get that sticker??? 

Awesomeness!

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin <irwi...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[jphil...@icloud.com]

I climbed on the bathroom scale with my Hunqapillar and the scale said 47lbs (minus the rider)! So I emptied my saddle sack onto the kitchen scale and the contents came to 5lbs (maybe I don't need so many Irish straps?), and I would guess the medium saddlesack is about 3-4lbs, since the the medium shopsack is 1lb, so my 54cm Hunq is about 38-39lbs with:

Standard Hunqapillar albatross bar build
Nitto small front & big back racks
Medium Wald basket
SKS fenders & Riv mudflaps
50mm Marathon Supremes
Brooks flyer select saddle
White Industries pedals & BG halfclips
Son Dynamo & Luxos U headlamp
2 King Cage Iris bottle cages
1 brass Crane bell
1 mirror

  I guess I better recheck how much weight my bike racks can hold.

Cheers,
John

[William!]

Measured as I ride them, on my bathroom scale:

58cm Roadeo with Brooks swallow, mavic 32h wheels with green jack browns, misc spd clipless, sram force group, soba bars, acorn saddle bag, flat/spare/toolkit: 20.5lbs

61cm Atlantis with Shimano Deore/Sugino/Tektro/Silver 'group', beefy 36h wheels with shimano dyno hub, fenders, B&M eyc dyno light, brooks b17, jack brown blues, mks 'battle axe' grip king pedals, tubus cosmo rear rack, v. old large baggins bag, small berthoud from RBW garage sale containing flat/spare/toolkit, u-lock and saddle-security-cable: 31lbs.

[Tom Harrop]

20 lb eh? I weighed my 68 cm Bomba with racks and lock but no bags recently when I was considering boxing it up to ship to myself. SON dyno front hub, Phil Wood rear, 60 mm Big Apples, Berthoud SS fenders. It was 18 kg and change. I put an Ursus Jumbo kickstand on today, so I'm thinking I might have tipped 20 kg... If I go past a public weighbridge anytime soon I'll weigh in and report back!

Heavy-ass bike yes, but I don't think there's one single component I would want to remove. Everything's paying its way.

[Tim Gavin]

I'll play!  31 lbs as shown.

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1.  Rivendell Road Standard ('97 Waterford-built in Reynolds 753)

2.  59 cm

3.  31 lbs

4.  Build:

Brakes: Tektro 559, Kool Stop Dura pads
Brake Levers:  Dia-Compe 202, Yokozuna housing
Shifters:  Rivendell Silver bar-ends. Yokozune housing
Front Der:  Suntour Cyclone
Rear Der:  Microshift from Rivendell
Crank:  Stronglight 99 triple, 52/42/30
Pedals:  Shimano Campus PD-A530, with Riv spikes added
BB:  Campagnolo Record loose ball, Stronglight spindle
Cogs:  7-speed IRD freewheel, 11-30
Chain:  SRAM PC-850
Seatpost:  Specialized aluminum
Saddle:  Brooks Flyer

Handlebar:  Nitto Moustache

Headset:  VO Grand Cru 1" threaded

Hubs: Phil Wood, freewheel 130 mm
Rims:  Synergy (OC rear)
Spokes:  DT Competition

Tires:  Grand Bois Lierre, 650 x 38b

Cages:  King Iris

Rack:  Nitto Mt Campee R20

Fenders:  SKS P45 Longboard, shorty front flap

Bell:  Cranze Suzu brass

Bar wrap:  Newbaum's blue, 4 coats shellac, over used innertube

My Giordana gofast weighs 23 lbs, and my KOM gravel beast weighs 35 lbs.  Weighed with an analog luggage scale.

Tim Gavin

Cedar Rapids, IA

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[Garth]

   Lol :)
 
   Some things are better left unsaid, so said my Bombadil  ! 

   

[Goshen Peter]

My bombadil is a large sturdy friend who is always there to get me home. I won't shame him by outing his heft. 😉

On Aug 3, 2014 8:42 PM, "Garth" <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:

   Lol :)
 
   Some things are better left unsaid, so said my Bombadil  ! 

   

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[Bruce Herbitter]

Here is my stable, as ridden. All include leather saddles, saddle bags, tool kits, bottle cages, frame pumps. The Saluki has fenders. all have RBW bells.

1.) 52 cm Rambouillet. 26 lbs. Stock drivetrain. Rich built wheels Phil/Velocity with 1 1/2" kevlar bead Paselas. Handlebar bag plus acorn tool wrap in back.

2.) 54.5 CM Road. 25 lbs. Feels lighter, but that's the scale. Built with Campy Veloce Triple. White Ind/Velocity Wheels. G.B. Ourson tires

3.) 50 CM Saluki 28.5 lbs. Constructeur rear rack, Nitto M-15 front rack. Paul racer brakes, Campy triple drivetrain. Honjos. Keven's bag. Pacenti Pari Moto tires.

4.) 53 CM Nashbar Mark III. 24.5 lbs  Veloce compact double, D-A / Velocity wheels. Pacenti Pari Moto ties. Dinotte light set up.

On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Robert F Harrison]

And I can't figure out if it should be with racks, bags, and baskets...and if so, which racks, bags, and baskets?

In any case my Hunq, with motor, feels about a half pound lighter than it did this morning before my 20 mile ride. Does that count?

Aloha, Bob

On August 3, 2014, at 2:42PM, Garth wrote:

   Lol :)
 
   Some things are better left unsaid, so said my Bombadil  ! 

   

[Deacon Patrick]

I'm confused. Do you want the weight of the bike going uphill or coming downhill? 'Cause there's no way they're the same.

With abandon,

Patrick

[lungimsam]

Patrick, just measure the weight going up, and then measure going down and divide by 2 to get the average weight.

Grades don't matter, so pick your grade!

[Jack]

My 54cm Hunqapillar weighs 31.4 pounds with no fenders, bags or pump. Here are some aspects of the build that might impact on the weight:

Schwalbe  50mm Big Ben tires

SON dyno hub

Soma mustache bars

Brooks B17

MKS Grip King pedals

2 Blackburn bottle cages

Avid V-brakes

Simplex Retrofriction shifters

Sugino XD2 triple crankset

Racktime Addit rear rack (advertised weight 1.6 pounds)

Cateye 5-LED rear light

So not a lightweight bike, but if that is what I wanted I would have bought something in carbon fiber.....

[rob markwardt]

The weigh-in was had...contenders had a pretty nice stare down...the results are:

Bleriot 

34.4 lbs.  Heavy weight build includes Schwalbe tires, B17, big Carradice (didn't empty...just a tube or two, couple levers, patch kit, etc), fenders, Blackburn rear rack, MKS Touring pedals, battery light.  It's a "smooth" 34 pounds.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14596538148/

Riv Road 

25.6.  B17, frame pump, Sugino PX crank and mainly 105 components. Tires are Pasela TG's.  Feels pretty light to me.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14508252566/

The lightest in fleet is a 74 Hetchins.  Comes in at about 23lbs.  Going to do a triathlon on this in a couple weeks...should freak out the tri geeks.

  

[Philip Williamson]

Quickbeam
25 lbs exactly
Brooks B17, WTB dirt drops, Salsa steel stem, Nitto M12 rack, Wald basket, Nitto cage. Original wheels, Soma C-Line 37mm tires. Original brake in back, Tektro 720 up front. Shimano 600 42/39 cranks driving a Dura Ace 15t cog and/or a Surly 17/21 Dingle.
I don't feel that this bike could go any lighter, with the parts it has on it... ;^)
If I were to change to Spooky brakes, titanium Brooks, lighter wheels? Sounds like a challenge! Or an expensive way to get it to 24 lbs exactly...

Dead chuffed about rebuilding my Pavoni,
Philip
www.biketinker.com

[lungimsam]

Rob,

What kinda saddle bag is that on the Road?

[rob markwardt]

An older Velo Orange...new ones are a different color.

[ascpgh]

Hmm, I don't have a scale.

Observations from the real world on last week's group ride: I didn't have to ride around standing water from recent rainfall to avoid striping my back, didn't have to ride around gravel on the roadway in places where streets had been torn up but not yet repaved, I was not unnerved by uneven road surfaces descending and I stopped to provide aid with my full-size frame pump to a rider on a CF super light who had a flat to a 23c tire and flubbed his CO2 thingy and had no other way to air up the new tube. As we rode back to the tail of the group I enjoyed my second bottle of water on the subsequent climb, CF guy stopped at a trash can along the river path and discarded both the tube and the empty gas bulbs. "Weighing me down". Yeah.

I'll weigh my Rambouillet sometime and it'll be a number. I tend to think of it as bringing enough bike when the peripherals draw weight consternation from the obsessive camp. 

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

[Marc Irwin]

Those stickers are available from Cycle Chic through Cafe Press.  I absolutely had to have one when I saw it.  

[cyclotourist]

Thanks!

http://www.cafepress.com/copenhagenchic.503775045

[Bill Lindsay]

Andy

I like what you had to say about utility.  I agree that a truly stripped down bike that is often not enough bike for the job is kind of lame.  That said, a stripped down bike that is just enough bike for a stripped down application can be cool, too.  Anyway, the only build I have that I sweated the weight is not a Rivendell.  It's my main brevet bike.  I list it here, at the risk of being too far OT, just because it's a build kit that could work just as well on a Rivendell.  The summary highlight is that it's a steel frameset, wide tires, all metal parts, a front rack and decaleur, dynamo hub, front and rear lights, full coverage fenders and fender flap, and a bell, and still weighs 21.0 lbs.  It features a lot of nice MUSA parts. 

My Rawland Stag

Frameset: Rawland Stag Size Large (58cm), Jeff Lyon custom threadless fork, Miche headset

Wheelset:  White T11 R hub, Schmidt front, Pacenti PL23 rims, Pari-moto tires, Schwalbe SV14A tubes (from Riv), allen key skewers

Drivetrain:  Rene Herse cranks, Ultegra SPD pedals, Dura Ace 10sp F+R Ders, and DT shifters.  SRAM 11-26 cassette and chain, WI Ti BB. 

Components:  Soba bars, Kelly Stem, CR720 brakes (from Riv), modified Tektro brakelevers, Paul Funky Monkey hangers, Ultegra Seatpost, Selle Italia SLR Ti saddle, newbaums tape (from Riv)

Extras:  Grand Bois rack, Berthoud decaleur, hanging Edelux headlamp (from Riv), Ti King Cages (from Riv), alloy crane bell, Honjo hammered fenders, homemade flap, Pixeo battery powered taillight.

The only carbon bit on the bike is the rear derailer pulley cage has some carbon.  I did a few weight shaving tricks in the build.  I had been shooting for under 19lbs when the fenders and lights were off, but as you could predict, I never ride it with the fenders and lights removed, so who knows whether I actually made it.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

[justin...@gmail.com]

Question for weight savings:
Given the mass of different objects, where does it make sense to go aluminum OR titanium over steel? Leaving out crabon since that's not the discussion
- seatpost
- Stem
- Bolts for braze ons
- Bottom Bracket
- Saddle rails
- Racks(Al)
- pedal spindles
- any others? Excluding frame

Where do you gain the most weight advatage by picking the lighter material?

-J

[john muhl]

33.7 lbs 61cm Atlantis

32x36 Synergy rims, SON28 dyno, Luxos B and Secula Plus, Mark’s rack with small Wald basket, HAR, B17 Select, Thin Gripsters, two King cages, BG Rock ’n Road tires, Albastache/Dirt Drop, Newbaums, Silver barends, TRP levers, CR720 cantis with Funky Monkey hangers, Crane brass bell, 7 speed cassette, Microshift front and Deore rear derailers, Pletscher double legger.

31.5 lbs 58cm Betty Foy

32x32 Pacenti PL23 rims, Sanyo dyno, Luxos B, Mark’s rack with small Wald basket, Terry Butterfly, Thin Gripsters, King cage, GB Hetre tires, chromo Bosco/Tallux, Ergon BioKork grips, Silver thumbies, Tektro FL750 levers, R559 sidepulls, Crane brass bell, 7 speed cassette, Deore derailers, Pletscher double legger.

25.7 lbs 58cm Saluki
32x32 A23 rims, SON28 dyno, Edelux II, Selle Anatomica Titanico X, Thin Gripsters, two King cages, Soma Grand Rando tires (green label), Noodle/Tallux, Newbaums, Silver DT shifters, TRP drillium levers, CX70 cantis, Crane brass bell, SunTour XC Comp double, Ultegra RD, FSA FD, 9 speed cassette.

[Tony McG]

I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag.  I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight, I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San Marcos is.

Atlantis

61

26# with Nitto R-14

Sugino triple

9-speed

Paul's Touring Retro brakes

Shimano bar-ends

Cane Creek levers

Sele Anatomica Titantico-X

Soba bars

Nitto stem

Nitto seat post

Shimano XT spd pedals

Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes

Shimano LX hubs

Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires

King SS bottle cages

brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

Soma San Marcos

59

21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag

Sugino triple crankset

9-speed

Tektro side-pull brakes

Cane Creek levers

Shimano bar-ends

Selle Anatomico Titantico-X

Noodle bars

Nitto stem

Nitto seatpost

Shimano XT spd pedals

Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke

Shimano 105 hubs

Jack Brown Blue 

King SS bottle cages

bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

1996 Santana Noventa

60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore

48# with Jandd rack

Custom built for a 6'5" x 5'4" 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3" 300# team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

[Bill Lindsay]

Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive.  That Atlantis build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels, and still is only 26 pounds?  That's a big surprise.   The San Marcos would be under 20lbs if you took off the kickstand, pump and seat bag?  That's incredible.  I never would have thought that possible.  It's got 2 top tubes for gosh sake!  There are pounds to be taken off both builds, but 'reasonable' is in the eye of the beholder.  I assume you mean reasonable in dollars.  Chasing grams on a perfectly good build is a fool's errand.  Chasing grams from a blank sheet of paper is bad enough.  

[Chris Chen]

I always include bags, racks, and locks, because, well, I am going to ride somewhere, aren't I?

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[Anne Paulson]

The San Marcos build weight sounds like it might be too good to be true. 21.5 pounds for a double top tube bike with a triple and a kickstand?

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It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.

[Tony McG]

Oops !!!

I had my eyes dilated for an eye exam this morning before I weighed the bikes.  The Atlantis and Santana weights are correct, but the Sam Marcos is 26.5 pounds.  I thought 21.5 was too good to be true.  Sorry for the bum scoop...

[Metin Uz]

I would have to agree, both of those weights look very optimistic. My lightest steel bike is a 54cm Della Santa made with very lightweight OS tubing, full Campy Record 10-speed group, Ti stem and seatpost, Speedplay pedals,  and non-leather seat with Ti rails, yet it is just under 20 lbs.

--Metin

[Bill Lindsay]

Haha!  26.5 is much more believable.  

That Atlantis is still hot at 26lbs, because it's so bomber and still respectable in weight.  You could drop 2 pounds or more but it may cost you $1500 to do it.  

[Tony McG]

The Atlantis deserves a better wheelset, but it will have to wait; the tandem's wheels are on their last leg.

My "poor mans" Atlantis (Surly LHT)

60

28# with Pletscher rack

Sugino triple

9-speed

Tektro CR720 brakes

Tektro levers

Shimano bar-ends

WTB Shadow-V saddle

Thudbuster ST seatpost

Salsa Cowbell 2 bars

Cane Creek S6 headset

Truativ stem

Shimano DX spd pedals

Mavic T52 rims 32 spokes

Shimano XT hubs

Schwalbe Dureme 700x42

King SS bottle cages

Newbaum's cloth tape

I built this bike about a month before I found my Atlantis.  It has been hanging in the garage since.

[RJM]

I put this in the Roadeo thread; I'll put it here too.

Rivendell Roadeo 53cm Orange w/ white headtube

20.8 lbs. - That ain't bad for a bike I didn't really prioritize light weight on. The only thing I would add to this bike to go out on a ride is my Garmin 500, water bottle or two and a Marks tool wrap held on the brooks with a John's strap. I usually take a tube or two, small pump, tire levers and a couple of allen keys of appropriate size.

Ultegra 6800 groupset w/ 50x34 compact crankset.

Rolf Vigor RS wheelset

11x28 cassette (Ultegra 6800)

Nitto Mark's Handlebars

Look Keo Classic pedals

32mm Compass Stampede Pass tires (regular not ultra light ones)

Tektro R539 brakes

Chris King headset (threaded)

Nitto Lugged quill stem

Brooks B17 Select

Nitto S83 seatpost

2 wire bottle cages, the kind every bike store in the world carries.

Nitto Bar Plugs

Newbaums cloth tape (twined and shellacked)

Garmin mount for bike computer

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

[dougP]

My curousity beat my "who cares?" attitude.  58 cm Atlantis, pretty standard Rivendell build (Brooks, Sugino triple, etc), with Soma C-lines on Mavic A-719 rims, Tubus Cosmo rear rack & small Nitto front, Acorn boxy bag with usual assortment of junk:  36-1/2 lbs.(dry; no water).  Since I had the scale handy I weighed the Acorn bag alone @ 5 lbs.

To get under 30 lbs would mean giving up a lot of utility (not my kickstand!).  Ain't gonna happen.  Still, this is a fun exercise every once in a while.  IIRC, my bike always gains weight. 

Just weighed my wife's 47 cm Atlantis:  30 lbs as she usually rides it:  Riv built plus kickstand, cheap aluminum rack with REI trunk bag, and small Acorn handlebar bag.  Without the trunk bag, 27 lbs.  32 hole wheels w/Compass tires.  Can't recall the seat but it's not a Brooks, something lighter. 

dougP 

[Jack]

I posted the weight of my 54cm Hunqapillar yesterday (31.4 lbs. with nothing but a rear rack) and now I'm 'weighing in' with my 56cm Atlantis. It tips the scales at a svelte 29.4 pounds with SKS fenders and a Nitto rear rack. The Atlantis is built with components typical for a Rivendell:

   Brooks B17 saddle

   Soma mustache bars 

   Nitto Technomic stem

   Sugino XD2 triple crankset, 

   Silver bar end shifters

   Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes

   Tektro 200 brake levers

   Grip King pedals

   Deore XT hubs

   8-speed cassette

   Deore rear der

   Suntour XC LTD front der

   Alex DA16 rims with 1.5 x 26 Pasela Tourguard tires 

It would be reasonable to expect a Hunqapillar to weight about two pounds more than an Atlantis with roughly the same components and accessories. At least that is my experience. Some of the difference in my case is the 26x1.5 Pasela tires on my Atlantis are significantly lighter than the 700x50 Schwalbe Big Bens on the Hunq.

This thread is interesting - so much of the weight of a bike is in the components, lights, accessories, racks, bags, and what is inside the bags. That stuff has weight, but it is what makes a bicycle more comfortable, practical and useful.  

[RJM]

Just weighed my Sam Hillborne. I use this bike for everything that doesn't involve pure road riding that I do with the Roadeo

29.6 lbs. 

48cm frame - Orange, canti post

Nitto 7cm stem

Brooks B17 special

Ultegra 6500 triple crank

Ultegra 6500 bottom bracket

Ultegra 6500 derailers

Ultegra 6500 cassette

Thin gripster pedals

Nitto Noodle bar 41cm

Newbaum's cloth tape

silver bar end shifters

Regular Sam Hillborne seat post and headset

two wire bottle cages

Nitto M12 front rack

Bontrager rear rack with a rear blinky attached

Saddlesack small

Shimano LX/Synergy wheelset

Fatty Rumpkin tires

XT v brakes

Tektro v brake levers

single legged kickstand.

Brass bell

Fenders are off of it now; those go on in fall.

[Bill Lindsay]

My Bombadil:

56cm Bomba
32 hole Synergy rims, XT hubs, force field Fatty Rumpkin
Sugino Mity 900 cranks, Thin Gripsters, XTR Rear der, campy front
8sp Shimano barcons
CR720 brakes, SRAM levers
Noodles, Nitto Lugged Stem
Brooks B17 Nitto S83 post
Nitto Big Front and Big Rear Racks
Jandd panniers (empty)
Wald big front basket
Sackville Large Shopsack (empty)
2 King Cages
Brass Bell
SKS Fenders, Kickstand

Using the same bathroom scale that says my Rawland is 21.0 lbs, she weighs in at.....40.5 lbs

I freaking love that bike. 

[Chris Chen]

Magic 40! Now we're talkin!

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[Tom Virgil]

35 pounds for this puppy.

~Tom

[Tom Virgil]

Oh.  I see I'm not playing nice.

Model: 2013 Sam Hillborne

Framesize: 52 cm (old sizing)

Weight:  35 lbs includes Sackville small seat bag with Sackville tool roll inside (tube, patch kit, multitool inside), empty bottles, Acorn handlebar bag (empty), bottles (empty), and Zefal Pump.  I am going to guess 31-32 lbs without all of that.

It is a standard build with change outs of noodle bars for Albas and additions of a Brooks B67 saddle, Shimano Dura-Ace bar ends for silver levers, and Thin Gripsters.  The 36 hole Velocity Atlas front rim was changed out for a 32 hole Velocity Synergy with a Shimano LX Dynamo and there is an Eyc front headlamp (cool little light) and Dyno Rack Light.  I added a Nitto Mark's Front Rack M1 and Nitto M14 in back.  Hoommm.  Let's not be hasty.  I guess i's not a standard build any more.  That seems to happen with these bikes.

~Tom

[David Spranger]

Okay, here is my (surprising to me) results on my three Rivs:

63 cm AHH ~32 lbs 

with Woody's Fenders, Brooks B17 Select saddle, Nitto M12 front rack, Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Bosco Bullmoose bars, IRD/Silver thumb shifters, SP dynamo hub and Phillips lights, VO Raid rims, VO Grand Cru Touring hub on rear wheel, Sugino Triple crank, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 35 tires, Thin Gripster pedals.

62 sm SimpleOne ~26 lbs 

with VO Zepplin fenders, Brooks B17 saddle, Nitto Mini front rack, Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, Mustache bar, Sanyo Dyanamo with B&M Cyo/Seculite lights, VO Raid Rims, VO Grand Cru flip/flop rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t ring, Schwalbe Little Big Ben tires, Thin Gripster pedals, Civia chainguard.

60cm Rambouillet ~26 lbs 

with VO Hammered fenders, VO Model 6 saddle, VO Randonneur front rack, Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, 48 cm Noodle bar, IRD/Silver stem shifters, Shimano 3N80 Dynamo hub with B&M Cyo/Seculite lights, VO PBP rims, Shimano 105 rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t/30t rings, Schwalbe Kojak tires, MKS Grip King pedals.

David Spranger

Charlotte, NC

[Hudson Doerge]

unfortunately i don't have a scale at home, but when i picked up my simpleone from the bike shop once the mechanic said, "it's lighter than i expected." ha. that seems like a win to me! although i assured him that was only because the medium saddesack and wald basket were empty.

-hudson in atx

[Bill Lindsay]

Samuel Hillborne

56cm, single TT
Soba bars, Shimano brakelevers, silver barcon shifters, pearl stem, paul touring cantilevers
Ritchey 94/58 supercompact double (42/29), campy front der XT short cage rear, Riv 9sp 12-34 cassette. SRAM chain, XT SPD pedals
Matrix ceramic rims 32 hole, C-Line tires 700x38, xt hubs and skewers
Original Flite saddle, XC pro seatpost
two king cages, nitto mini front rack, brass bell

25.0lbs

Gunnar Double speed

Waterford custom Gunnar, dura ace headset
Tech DLX stem, noodle bars, tektro levers, newbaums tape
tektro bigmouth brakes, phil 32 hole bolt on hub, mavic open pro rims, skinny 26mm new express tires
campy mirage 110bcd cranks 35/38 rings, white Dos freewheel 16/19
marks rack, HARack, HA panniers (empty), sackville trunksack small (with toolkit)
Nitto s83 seatpost Avocet Ti R40 saddle
One king cage

27.0 lbs

[Clayton]

36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

Clayton

[Bill Lindsay]

Clayton, that is EPIC.  Those fierce pannier flair bits are particularly cool.  Tell us about your frame decals?

[Joe Broach]

63 Riv Canti-Rom

28.5 pounds with pump and lights but without toolkit and usual around town load

more or less stock build except

nitto m12 front rack

aerohead wheelset with SON front hub and Phil freewheel rear

B17

Following Grant's rule for stating bike weights, rider weighs about 5x the bike. I also have a Rawland Nordavinden built up about 4 pounds lighter. I can't tell the weight difference between them, so I guess my tolerance is at least +/- 4 pounds.

Best,

joe broach

portland, or

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[Cecily Walker]

This is just a SWAG, but

55cm Betty Foy = around 38-ish pounds, without my pannier.

Build list: (Sorry about the formatting, I copied it directly from an excel spreadsheet)

Crankset	Sugino XD 600 26-36-46
Bottom Bracket	Shimano
Pedals	Velo Orange Grand Cru Sabot
Chain	SRAM PC 971
Cassette / Freewheel	SRAM 11-32
Derailleur (front)	Shimano Tiagra Triple
Derailleur (rear)	Shimano Deore
Hubs	Shimano Deore LX 36 hole
Spokes (front / rear)	Sapim Strong 13-14G / Dt Swiss Nipples
Rim (pair)	VO Diagonale 650B Silver
Tubes	Standard
Rim Tapes	Schwalbe Cloth
Tire (pair)	Soma New Express 650b Terra Cotta

Seatpost	Velo Orange Grand Cru
Stem	Soma Sutro
Handlebar	Nitto Boscos
Grips / Tape	Ergon GP1
Headset	Shimano Ultegra
Shifters	IRD Thumb Shifters
Shifter Cables	Jagwire Stainless Steel
Brake Levers	Shimano BLR 550 Silver
Brake Calipers	Tektro 559 Long Reach
Brake Cables	Jagwire Stainless Steel SKS Longboards (Cream) Nitto  Mark's Rack

[eflayer]

FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded bottom bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the lightness of being.

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, the "Unbearable Lightness of Being"! I want to play, too, but I've been out of town. Will weight and list and post before this thread dies.

Patrick "and if I don't, who cares?"Moore

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"Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?

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[John Stowe]

58cm Sam Hillborne: 41 lb including pump and tool bag which are always on the bike; normally I ride with 5.9 lb. of locks and some water as well, so call it 48 lb. Then add my laptop bag with everyday carrying-around stuff, so call it 55 lb. for a regular commute. Then stuff the same bag with diapers, wipes and baby snacks, and 5 lb. of baby seat, and 27+++ lb. of baby, and you're up in the 90 lb. range. Oh wait, we stopped for groceries, a gallon of milk weighs 8.7 lb... are we still counting grams on the bike?

Yep, the Sam Hillborne is a "do everything" bike!

Mostly complete build list:

58cm Sam Hillborne (DTT), stock headset, seatpost, bottom bracket

Wheels: SON and WI hubs, Dyad rims, Schwalbe Delta Cruiser 700cx35

Drivetrain: Sneaker pedals, Sugino triple 175mm, Shimano 9sp chain/cassette, Shimano something road triple FD, Deore LX RapidRise RD

Brakes: Tektro R559

Cockpit: Bosco Bullmoose bars, Miesha's grips, Shimano MTB levers and bar-end shifters, bracket for the baby seat

Saddle: Brooks B17 Natural

Racks: Pass & Stow front, Tubus Cosmo rear (with some bungies/straps living on them, just in case)

Lights: B&M IQ CYO front, Toplight Line Brake rear, Planet Bike Superflash for backup/extra viz. in the rear

Fenders: VO stainless steel 45mm, Sackville mudflaps (missing one at the moment, so add a few oz. I guess)

Kickstand: Pletscher twin-legger (tossed the rubber feet a few days ago, because the legs had punched through the bottom)

Topeak frame pump, Acorn tool roll with assorted tools, Carradice Bike Bureau

[Chris Chen]

You mean 27+++ lb of co-pilot, right? :)

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[Mojo]

Interesting exercise. I weighed mine w bags, pumps, repair/patch kits, lights, but with no water bottles, in other words as they would be ridden:
1) Riv Road Custom, 61.5cm, standard build w brifters, Carradice saddlebag, 28mm tires, 26 lbs.
2) Quickbeam, 60cm, with Nitto M12 front rack w Wald basket, medium sackville bag, banana bag, & two freecogs on the flip-flop back, JB tires, 30 lbs (wow!).
3) Legolas, 62cm set up in Rando mode with brifters, Nitto M12-like rack and Acorn handlebar bag, Carradice saddlebag, Longboard fenders, dynamo hub & light, 32mm tires, 31.5 lbs.

[Clayton]

When I had my frame powder coated, I called Riv up for frame decals, but the only ones they could provide are the fragile decals that need a clear coat, which I didn't want to do. I found an online company that makes custom frame decals that you can design yourself. I have forgotten the name of the company though. Sorry. I just ordered Riv's Ressurecto stickers and might use those on the down tube for "Urban anti theft camo". Maybe.

[Bill Lindsay]

Clayton, thanks for that info.  Yeah, I've heard of that decal company, and similarly don't recall its name.  Yours definitely are a different font than the regular Atlantis font.  They look good though.  

[Patrick Moore]

IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt on parts except fenders but no bags or bottles.

And my bars are 3 cm below saddle for the Maes Paralells (shallow drop), perhaps 2 1/2 cm for the Noodles; 2 cm above for the Fargo.

[lungimsam]

Is it legal to rebrand a bike? 

[Hudson Doerge]

weighed my simpleone with a bathroom scale, came to just about 30 lbs. with tubus vega + medium saddlesack, mini front rack + medium wald basket.

[Brewster Fong]

On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt on parts except fenders but no bags or bottles.

 

Ha, you guys are a bunch of weight weenies!  :)  On Sunday, both buddy and I were riding our carbon bikes climbing out of Sausalito towards the bridge. His bike is the latest 2014 Trek Madone with ultegra di2, probably weighs about 16 or so pounds. I'm on my "tank" calfee that weighs in at 18+lbs. As we were "cruising" up the first hill out of Sausalito, this guy on a Hillborne blows past us. He had massive amounts of tattoos on both is legs and arm and had a big Nelson type saddle bag. He was flying up the hill pass us and I couldn't see anything else on his bike like whether it had a double toptube or not. Needless to say, his bike was probably heavier than both our bikes, but that in no way stopped him from flying up the hill!

[Bill Lindsay]

 

Ha, you guys are a bunch of weight weenies!  :) 

There are no weenier weight weenies than the Camping weight weenies, so I set up a minimalist S24O kit.  I took my 27 lb double speed (with HA Panniers) and added:

Hammock + sleeping bag + VBL + stuffable pillow
stove + pot + utensils + cup + coffee kit + firestarters
parka + skull cap + tights + nighshirt headlamp
can opener beer opener bandana

34.0 lbs with no food and no water, and no whiskey.

I can substitute my solo tent and thermarest for my hammock and add 750g.  

[Corwin]

My bike/weight:

62cm Quickbeam

Built as follows:

Front wheel - PJW built Shimano 3N80 Dynamo laced to a Velocity Dyad
Rear wheel - Rich built Phil double sided single speed hub laced to a Velocity A23
Schwalbe 38mm Marathon Supremes
SKS P45 fenders
Cantilever brakes
Sugino XD cranks, 40, 32 chainrings
Cane Creek hoods
MKS track pedals
Nitto Jaguar seat post
Fizik saddle
Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm stem
Nitto Noodle bars
Nitto mini front rack
Nitto Platrack
Slickersack
Schmidt Edelux dynamo light
Portland Design Cygolite Hot Shot taillight
Kryptonite New York "Fahgettaboudit" lock

34.8 pounds

If we leave out the lock (as I sometimes do riding to Downtown Berkeley), the weight is 30.6 pounds.

We won't talk about the 50 - 60 pounds of groceries in the trailer I pull home several times a week.

Regards,


Corwin

[Jason Leach]

I'll chime in:

54cm Quickbeam

170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard

Albatross

Suzue Free/Free wheelset

B17

Mini Front/ wald/ shopsack

Big Back Rack/ canvas panniers

Planet Bike fenders

700x32mm Wire Bead Paselas

bungee chords, two tubes, a few tools

28lbs

Jason

SF,CA

 

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[Tom Harrop]

Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the booze...?

[Bill Lindsay]

Admissable?  Yes.  Is it usable or practical without the booze?  No

[Kelly]

My Bombadil while touring... 110 lbs.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9018162182/in/set-72157633975989097

Kelly

[Philip Williamson]

So I have the lightest Quickbeam so far? 

Woot! 

Cryptoweightweenie,

Philip

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[Mojo]

Five pounds lighter than my Q Phillip. You're killing me here!

[Dave @ Riv]

That guy on the HILSEN was our very own riv Jared!
Flyin.

[Tony DeFilippo]

1. Saluki

2. 60cm

3. 28 lbs, 42 lbs at full commuting load

1. XO-3 (1993, 26"), single speed

2. 59cm

3. 27 lbs.

I would have figured the XO to be a couple lbs lighter but I have some junky Kenda 1.95" tires and a B67 saddle that probably account for a pound or two of weight delta just there.  I believe my 650B converted, 531C framed Trek was right around 32lbs racked and fendered.  I'll have to come back to this once I receive my new-to-me rSOGN and build it up!

 

 

[AD]

I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some weight with 32 WI), cut Nitto seatpost.

Minimizing the weight was just for kicks as the bike is regulated to family rides on the Iron Horse trail.

AD

[Philip Williamson]

Bags, my friend. Never weigh them!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

[Tony DeFilippo]

I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking! :)

[Tony DeFilippo]

[Philip Williamson]

Oh! I've been lapped in the singlespeed weight-weenie race!

Philip

www.biketinker.com

[lungimsam]

 

...still waiting for Jan Heine and Grant Petersen & company to chime in on this...c'mon now y'all...join in on the fun...

[Bill Lindsay]

Don't hold your breath.  Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere near as much as people think.  Grant also knows that handwringing over bike weight is a pointless exercise.  He doesn't know what his bike(s) weigh, doesn't care, knows it doesn't matter, and is busy doing things that are less pointless to him than weighing his bike(s).  

Me though, I don't mind being pointless.  I weighed my "road bike".  My budget Roadeo: 

Frameset:  Black Mountain Cycles 59cm, cane creek threadless headset

wheels:  Open pro 32 hole, ultegra rear, WTB front, vintage Dura Ace skewers, 12-25 9sp cassette, 700x32 challenge Eroica tires

drivetrain:  White Ind VBC cranks 44/30, White steel BB, Ultegra SPDs, Dura Ace F+R ders, DT shifters, SRAM chain

components:  flite saddle, ritchey alloy seatpost, noodle bars, civia bryant stem, Dia compe 610 centerpull brakes, paul funky monkey hangers, tektro levers, newbaums tape

extras:  alloy crane bell, gran compe ciclo ENE front rack, two king cages 

23.5lbs

[Chris Chen]

do you want me to weigh it with or without the two racks of ribs? or the melon?

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[Cecily Walker]

I think Kelly wins for the heaviest bike.

[ted]

Since I'm not doing anything with a point this evening anyway ....

Ridable bikes on hand minus anything not bolted or zip tied on:

~53cm Gios "road race" bike, ~19.5 lbs (circa '80 weight weeny-ish steel w/ mostly current parts for ref)

mostly campi 10sp ergo, cane creek weight weeny brakes, Ritchey wcs bars, syncros quill stem, ti rail selle italia turbo, suntour superbe pro post, speedplay x pedals, 1 ac cage, 1 arundel sport cage.

56cm AHH ~23.0 lbs

32h lx/synergy wheels w/ soma GR green tires, xcd rd, old nr fd, shim 9sp dt shifters, rh cranks, misc cartridge bb, frog pedals, nitto stem & dream bars, old dia-comp areo levers, 559 brakes, s83 post, ti rail san marco rolls w/ kludged brass rail bag loop substitute, 2 king cages, 1 nitto tire cage

52cm Sam Hillborne ~25.6 lbs

32h lx/synergy wheels w/ non force field rumpkin tires, stndrd RBW most everywhere, lugged nitto post, b17., sneaker pedals, albatross bars, 1 king cage

56cm SimpleOne ~28.2 bs

son front hub, vo fixed/free rear, vo pbp rims, jack brown green tires, superbe pro track crank, phil bb, lyotard mb pedals w/ clips n straps, nitto stem & rb019 bars, s83 post, selle italia turbo, longboards, nitto mini, nitto top, wald med., edelux, bm linetec, pletscher kick stand, 2 king cages

52 cm Bombadil ~28.8 lbs

32h lx/synergy w/ Quasi-Moto tires, xt rd, cx70 fd, sugino xd2 wide low double, very old sugino loose ball bb, mks urban pedals w/ clips n straps, cr720 cantis, 9sp shim on paul thumbies, large bullmoose bar, lugged nitto post, b17, 3 king cages, pletscher kick stand.

~56/53 long bike ~46.2 lbs (bonus fun bike)

531 super-tourist, RBW fork crown, very RBW build, albatross in front, bosco stoker, b17 for both, sneaker pedals, nitto big back rack, nitto mini.

I/we are very pleased with all of em (well the Gios may be too small), but that took longer than I thought it would. This weight stuff is indeed insidious, and best eschewed. Riding round the block a few times on any one of them would have been a much better plan.

[jimD]

…what Bill said!

-JimD

[Benedikt]

35 - 40ish. Depends what I got in the bags. I love taking it on group rides. When the weight weenies see it they freak out. People LOVE that bike.

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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

[David Sprunger]

A tale of two rivies, two large rivies. One is set up as a sport touring bike for pleasure rides. The other is a work horse that I use for commuting.

1. 26 pounds. Custom frame, 65cm. Set up with XTR M900 drive train and hubs. Paul braze-on Racer brakes. Nitto lugged stem and seat post. 48cm Noodles. Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Mostly as seen here:

http://faculty.cord.edu/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/riv-fullb.jpg

2. 41 pounds. Bombadil with parallel top tubes, 60cm. Phil Wood hubs. Suntour XC Pro drive train and brakes. Bosco bullmoose bars. Nitto lugged post. Big Apples. Rear Nitto big rack. Front Platrack with basket. Steel fenders. Double-leg kickstand. Mostly as seen here:

http://faculty.cord.edu/sprunger/bikes/bombadil/bomb-513.jpg

This has been an interesting thread. Thanks to everyone for getting out the scales.

David Sprunger

Fargo, ND

On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, lungimsam <john1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes weigh.

 

Would be informative to know:

1. Model

2. Framesize

3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).

4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not expected.

 

I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.

So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 

And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.

 

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[Edwin W]

Finally got around to weighing my 60cm Sam.

36 pounds

Build

Sugino 26/40/bashguard crank

Sneaker pedals

Mark's front rack

Wald medium basket with bungee net and a spare irish strap

Longboard fenders

Brooks B17

Nitto seatpost

Nitto stem (pearl?) 11cm

Albas

CR18 rims with 36 spokes

Novatech cheapie dynamo upfront, iq fly light in front, topline brake plus in back

LX hub in back

8 speed cassette

2 king cages

Public spring loaded rack in back

Major weight savings from:

Orange paint - scientifically proven to be faster and lighter

Single top tube

No front derailer

Not too light, not too heavy, in my book,

Edwin

[Ryan]

The custom one is my favourite.Think I might have asked you a long time ago what colours yours is, and I think you told me yellow. My 2001 Riv Road is Harvest Gold. In certain light it looks like a dark yellow,other light more of a greeny mustardy colour like curry powder . One day I'll weigh it. One day I may even photograph it, except that it's worthy of the photographic talents of others on this list.

 

One thing that I've noticed about Rivs, though, is that they seem to ride lighter than the avoirdupois would suggest

[shawn m.]

I get the 'how much does it weigh?" question a lot from guys riding Cervelos for some reason. My answer is always the same: lift with your knees... My 54cm Hunqapillar is racked and fendered and basketed with a large saddlesack, so it's in the same ballpark as the others here have mentioned, but I don't actually know. When I had my Hillborne, I was killing time before a catching a train at my friend's bike shop. He couldn't help himself, had to weigh it, fully loaded for a tour. 71 pounds of bike and gear. No big deal. :)

[Patrick Moore]

I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the very large Jandd Mountain Wedge (big enough for a change of clothing -- pants and shirt -- if you roll tightly, this in addition to tubes, tools, and Lezyne), so bare nekkid except for 3 bottle cages. 29.5 lb (actually varied between 28 and change and 29.7, but more readings in the mid-29 range).

Riv #3 -- 58 cm c-c 559 wheeled fixie --  newly washed, 3 readings: 22.34, 22.63, 22.7 for average of 22.56 lb with lights, HpX, 2 Irises, and half full medium sized Ruthworks wedge with 2 tubes and various small tools -- surprised me at how light it is.

#2 gofast (57 c-c fixed, one bottle cage) steady at 17.75.

Ram at Mom's.

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[stonehog]

I have two Rivs and weighed them in at normal running weight with tools/bags/pump included.

The first one up is my grey/maroon Hunqapillar - 54cm = 39 lbs
Includes full racks/basket/bag for camping:

1. Tubus Cosmo rear rack
2. Haulin' Colin front rack (custom)
3. large Wald basket
4. Medium Sackville with tools
5. Brooks B17 w/Nitto S83 seatpost
6. XD600 double
7. Thin Gripsters
8. Albastache w/Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm stem
9. Bell, frame pump, 3 bottle cages
10. Sykes wood fenders
11. Velocity Synergy rims
12. Clemente X'plor MSO tires
13. Schmidt 28 Dyno, B&M Cyo IQ light and tailight
14. kickstand

Next up - '09 A. Homer Hilsen - 59cm = 29 lbs

Rando setup:

1. Swift Industries Paloma handlebar bag
2. Honjo hammered 45mm fenders
3. Rene Herse crank
4. Thin Gripsters
5. XS Sackville tool bag with tools
6. Velocity A23s rims
7. Jack Brown Greens
8. Selle Anatomica saddle with Thompson seatpost
9. Nitto Noodle 42cm with Nitto 10cm lugged stem
10. Bell, frame pump, and 3 bottle cages
11. Schmidt dyno hub and Edelux and B&M taillight
13. kickstand

For what it's worth, I also weight the current rando bike, my 57cm Velo Routier (Cycle Toussaint) with a very similar build and size to the Homer, and it came in 1 lb heavier at 30 lbs.  The build differences on the Toussaint are:

1. 650b - Hetre ELs
2. Acorn Tall Boxy Rando bag with tools
3. Speedplay Frog pedals
4. Berthoud 50mm steel fenders
5. Pacenti PL23 rims

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram.

[Bertin753]

Ram at Mom's!

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[DS]

Finally got around to this:

48cm Hunqapillar w/ 2.1 smart sams, standard build kit w/ albastache bars, front nitto mini rack, and 2 water bottle cages (without water bottles): 28.4 lbs

55cm Cheviot with standard build kit, shimano dynohub, luxos b light, nitto mini front rack, pletscher rear rack, dyno tail light, water bottle cage, walde medium basket, bell, sks fenders - 38 lbs. 42 lbs with lock and sackville shopsack 

Also, for comparison, Gunnar sport with front nitto mini rack, 2x9 shimano 105 drivetrain (brifters), 2 water bottle cages (empty) - 23 lbs

I have to say, i love the cheviot, its new, but hauling a 40 lb bike up and down steps and through a tight storage area that needs me to basically almost lift it up over my head to get out, and then up and down the BART stairs is a huge pain in the ass. I may need to balance it out with some sub 20 lb fixie bike with zero attachments.

[Patrick Moore]

Weight! Weight! Weight! Sounds like my (skinny and tall) 13-year-old daughter (alas).

I just weighed my Fargo: just under 33 lb with at-least-3-lb saddlebag and contents; this is the off road equivalent of a 58 cm frame. All bolt on accessories, which for this one amounts to 4 nylon bottle cages and clip on light mounts. (Lights clip on; mounts bolt or strap on.)

Gofast: weighed sans bag: 17.24 lb; the same digital suitcase scale very nicely took off .24 lb since the last time I weighed it and I hope for further reductions. All bolt-on accessories. 

Didn't weight the Ram or the commuter, but guess ~25 lb and ~23 lb, no bags but with lights and all bolt on accessories.

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[Montclair BobbyB]

I agree with "Andy the Wise"... It's all about bringing enough bike to the ride.... Perfect.

[Belopsky]

Bumping this old thread:

Weighed my 56cm Riv Atlantis (Toyo build, if it matters)

24.6lbs w/ the Mavic Crossmax and RTP tires and no weight-saving parts taken into consideration. I built it up as my gravel/dirt bike. Would be nice to get it lighter but this is good enough. Might try tubeless ;)

[Stuart Lovinggood]

I'll play: my stock Joe Appaloosa 55 with R14 top rack, large saddlesack (and various daily items), frame pump, mystery-brand Albatross clones and 29x2.1 Smart Sams weighs in at 36.6 pounds. 

[Patrick Moore]

That's pretty light for an Atlantis!

Mine:

The '99 Custom 57 c-c: 17.8 lb with "heavy" Dura Ace SPD pedals but no bag -- would be 17.5 lb with the Xpedos, so I lose a couple of average miles p h for style. 

Wheels: Sun M14A 559; 70 gram tubes; Elk Pass tires; Phil hubs, rear with 15/17; Revolutions and aluminum nipples

Phil Ti bb with TA Pro 5 Vis single 46

KMC 9 speed chain

Original Tange Rollerball headset

Dura Ace SP 7400 post, original issue Flite

Nitto Tech Deluxe cut down for ti bolt, Compass Maes Parallel 38 cm (not for weight; I like narrow bars)

Single Iris cage

Dura Ace 7400 levers (right to front, left with arm removed) pulling single front caliper -- caliper is either Superbe Pro or similar Dia Compe

The '03 Custom 58 c-c: about 25 lb with ss fenders, dynolights, f and rear racks, HpX, no bag.

Same rims, tires, sp, saddle, bb, crank (but 48)

Original Ultegra headset

14/15 Sapims with black nipples for added speed

M540 pedals

Nitto Pearl with Maes Parallel 38

Surly flip flop/SON 20 R + Edeluxe 1 and some sort of rack mount rear

17/19 Dingle, no freewheel

Berthoud 45 mm fenders

Custom rear and front lowrider ss racks

2 Irises

Dura Ace 7400 brake levers pulling DA EX calipers (these are wonderful with fatter fenders)

Matthews is about 30 lb fully dressed -- rack, dynolight, fenders, Silca Impero, no bag.

Nice but brand unknown seatpost holding up later issue Flite

Phil steel 130 bb, 175 Logic double with BB Bashguard, 42/28

Rear generic Shimano, front SP disc

K-Lite front, some German rack mount rear

Sapims, 32, 14-15 with black nipples on Velocity Blunt SS rims

Furious Freds tubeless

BB7 Roads with Jagwire pulled by generic Shimano aero levers

PowerRatchets pulling SRAM 10 speed chain through Jagwire over 10 mismatched cogs, 13-28

Dura Ace 740? front and rear derailleurs; rear has cartridge bearing Bullseye pulleys, something I didn't know until someone else pointed it out

Logic 9 cm stem holding VO 42 cm Maes Parallel and St Christopher medal (thanks, Deacon)

Custom rear rack; ditto front low riders not mounted

Planet Bike Cascadia fenders, rear a shorty

M540 pedals (I think; double sided Shimano mountain bike pedals, at any rate)

Afraid to weigh the Hon Solo, but guessing it's 24-25 lb sans bag and seatpost rack.

Otherwise stock except for:

TA Pro 5 Vis with 50 t ring

14 t rear cog with 16 t bailout, not yet used

Original issue Flite

MKS GR-9s with Christophes and leather straps with pads and buttons (for speed, of course)

Bar mast extender

Original model Moustache bar

Kojaks, folding

Single Profile cage

8 speed era 105 levers, right pulling OEM caliper, left sans lever proper

Sanyo bb generator with modern plastic headlamp, battery tail light

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[Jim M.]

My Bombadil weighs about 270 pounds on the road.

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[Jim M.]

But I think I can get it down to 269 with a carbon fiber crank.

[William deRosset]

My Heron Touring (55cm but rides like a 57 or 58) comes in at around 28lb including front and rear racks, fenders, lights, wire-bead 35mm tires, BOB trailer mount, etc.It is a mutt, has been set up a few different ways, and lives in VT, so a build list would be approximate.

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William M. deRosset

Fort Collins, CO

[Reed Kennedy]

My 62cm Hunqapillar weighs between 33 and 36 lbs, depending on rack, wheelset, tires.

Lightest configuration is like this, but with 38mm Compass Barlow Pass tires: https://goo.gl/photos/wcx2zxSLPC8kDdbC6

(Counting the rack and basket, not counting the lock, bags, tools.)

Oh, here's one with the right tires: https://goo.gl/photos/zoafhFJTGJ2Y9Yes8

Heaviest config is with a Nitto 27F rack on the front and 2.35 inch Schwalbe Big One tires. Here's the right rack, but not the right tires:

https://goo.gl/photos/xYYFk7gsqhypQvU17

https://goo.gl/photos/uGkxqdKXQVgxFvBK8

Oh, and one more picture. Just because I really like it: https://goo.gl/photos/DGV7kM4Cu68TvRkX8

Reed