Non-Schwalbe Tire Recommendations for Large Clem.

[David Banzer]

I got a Clem frameset, built it up, and used 42mm actual Resist Nomads as I had them already. They work fine, but obviously this bike was made for something larger.
So, looking for recommendations for 700c/29er tires - semi-slick tread, or micro-tread, or something that works fine on roads. I'll be using my Clem for commuting mostly, and plan on using it this winter as it's so darn comfy.
Something in the 50mm actual range would be nice.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

[Patrick Moore]

David: I know this violates the "not Schwalbe" criterion, but I have to put in a very good and loud word for the 622 X 50 Furious Fred. The tread is not quite "micro" but it is less than knobby (I do think that the "knoblets" help a bit on loose surfaces compared to, say, the tread on Big Apples), and the tires just roll, roll, roll on pavement, even when pumped only to ~20 lb (rider 170 lb). They don't feel fast, but they are fast to gauge by the gearing and ease of maintaining cadence -- I find myself pushing a 73" gear surprisingly often, where with the B Apples I'd be in the 68 or even 64 -- and this on a bike that, overall, compared to my others, feels sluggish on pavement.

BTW, why "not Schwalbe"?

Note that my own FFs are on 430 gram rims and that I run then sans tubes, both of which may affect speed as described.

Others have also loudly praised the way that the FFs roll on pavement.

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[Patrick Moore]

I writ: They don't feel fast, but they are fast to gauge by the gearing and ease of maintaining cadence -- I find myself pushing a 73" gear surprisingly often, where with the B Apples I'd be in the 68 or even 64 -- and this on a bike that, overall, compared to my others, feels sluggish on pavement.

I mint: The Fargo just feels slow; one reason I've ordered a new frame. But, again judging by gear and cadence and conditions, the FFs roll very well.

[David Banzer]

Hi Patrick,
The non-Schwalbe qualifier is mainly because I'm already aware of those options and am curious about other manufacturers.
David
Chicago

[Lungimsam]

I'd recommend Compass tires. They are very fine.

[William R.]

Hi David and Patrick,

How about the Continental Speed King? It is a high performance, light weight, hard pack MTB tire like the Furious Fred. It comes in 622-55, so a little bigger than the FF, I'm looking at it as a potential tire for my up coming Joe Appaloosa. These tires are light and fast and perhaps a little vulnerable/not as long lasting as others? Don't really know, but their tech specs look good (fast!), anybody have experience with the Speed Kings?

Bill in Westchester, NY

[David Banzer]

Agreed - but they don't make anything larger than 38mm in the size I need, which ends up being smaller than what I already have on my Clem.

David

Chicago

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:

[iamkeith]

Maxxis makes some pretty good size tires.

Torch 29x2.1 (53mm)

Grifter 29x2.5 (63mm)

Hookworm 29x2.5 (63mm)

http://www.maxxis.com/tires/bicycle/urban

The Grifter looks particularly good, for what you're describing.  I agree with your effort:  why not use the biggest tire you can fit?!  But I have to say that I'd still consider the Schwalbe Super Moto first.   While waiting for my large clem, that's the one I kept thinking would be nice.  For now though, I'm going to be using some 2.4  Maxxis Ardent, full  knobbies, just because I already have them.  FYI, they are known to be the largest non-plus-size 29er mtb tire - even bigger than any 2.5s - and they fit with TONS of room to spare.

The 

[iamkeith]

Replying to myself, here.   I didn't read the part of your question, about 50mm being ideal. ( I always assume everyone has the same bigger-is-better bent as me.)   In that case once again, I think you're going to have a hard time finding anything nicer than the Big Bens from Riv., but there are some slightly smaller Maxxis tires shown at that link, too.

[David Banzer]

The Grifters fit? That's good to know. I'll be using aluminum fenders eventually with proper clearances, so I want to make sure there's enough room.
The Vee Rubber 12 I just noticed, a little smaller than what I'd like but looks nice and affordable.
David
Chicago

[iamkeith]

The Ardents fit.  They're huge and knobby, though.  I'm guessing bigger than the Grifters.  Likely the same casing.  Could post a snapshot if needed.   My rims are somewhat narrower (24mm) than the ones on the complete bikes, which will make a slight difference - but probably not enough to make them not fit.   

[El Sapo]

I've ridden noting but Schwalbe and now those 1.75 Kendra Kwik 7s? that came on the stock 52 Clem. Like you, I think the Clem is begging for a larger tire. I think my wife's small Clementine has Kendra 26 x 2.1, and they feel nice. Clems are supposed to fit a 60mm - 2.35 and that's what I'm going to put on mine eventually. Although those gum wall Compass tires are calling my name I'm holding out for the 27.5 Schwalbe Big One to be released next year.        

[Dan A]

Clement Xplor Mso is 700 x 40. Bruce Gordon Rock and Road is another option.

[Garth]

   Just because a frame can take a certain width tire coertainly does not mean it was or was not intended for a certain width tire.  Wider is not always better.  Everyone has a sense of "just right" .  On my Bombadil I prefer 40mm tires as I ride on the "road" , albeit patch paved and sometimes very poor and even primitive road .  For offroad I would want a tire wider than 50 or even 60mm , so we're speaking of a whole different class of frame there.

[El Sapo]

Garth, I agree. But, I'm still the kid who put another slick on the front wheel of my sting ray. The bike shop guy made me bring in a parent to approve before he would install the tire. Of course I just wanted it because I thought it looked cool, but I sold it to my parents as a necessity. I used to carry 20 lbs of newspapers on the handlebars of that bike every afternoon. Save me some of those yams!