Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

[Edwin W]

Since Riv no longer sells these bikes, what are good options for an alternative? Single speed, 38-45 tires with fenders, etc...

Thanks for your suggestions in advance,

Edwin

[Eric Daume]

I would probably go for the Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross. Similar to a Surly Cross Check (I could "shift" a six tooth cog difference with the long dropouts on my CC), but the slightly sloping top tube allows for quite a bit taller head tube.

I think the forward facing horizontal dropouts on either the BMC or the CC would be quite a bit easier to use than the track ends on the Quickbeam.

Eric

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[Philip Kim]

All City nature boy? Runs the 43 rock n roads w/o fenders. 38 with fenders, hidden fender eyelets. Had one for a bit and liked it a lot.

The disc version lets you alternate wheel sizes. Obviously doesn't really hold a candle to the Quickbeam in the aesthetics department, but it's affordable and durable.

[Liesl]

Some years ago between the penultimate and last batch of quickbeams, I made a faux beam. My problem was that until that last silver batch, there wasn't one small enough for me. I procured a proto bleriot frame in my size and had rich build a rear wheel with a White Industries eccentric ENO hub with their 19/17 double cog. It doesn't have granny up front but for my riding (mostly urban and winter urban) it's simply fantastic.

So if you want a Riv for this ride, that's a possibility. Otherwise put the word out here on the list. You could get lucky like my partner did!

Best of luck
RCW

[Jim M.]

Take a look at the Soma Wolverine: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wolverine

It has sliding rear dropouts, which makes single speeding it quite simple.

jim m

wc ca

[David Banzer]

Did the Quickbeam or Simpleone really fit 45mm tires with fenders? I thought it was closer to 38mm with fenders.
If that's the case, older touring bikes with horizontal dropouts are great candidates.
Here's some older photos of my Schwinn Voyageur - though it's currently a 6-speed, but I'm in the process of getting it back to a single speed - fits 38mm Compass Barlow Pass tires and fenders, could probably squeeze 42mm tires (Nomad Resist) with SKS fenders, though it'd be tight.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/34722A5E-C3DE-467C-B9E1-1DF738696807_zps0sypyuyk.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/BA6001C2-BA11-4A25-B803-429BB4AEDD29-4794-00000541D945C904_zpsb0490fd0.jpg

David
Chicago

[Philip Williamson]

Nope. The Quickbeam will do 38mm tires and fenders nicely. More is a hassle to set up, and a hassle to maintain. The first gen green ones, at least. I could do nominal 45mm smokes, but I had to shave the side knobs in the rear.

If I wanted the function, I'd get a Black Mountain. If I wanted the aesthetics, I'd get a Legolas with Atlantis clearances, and the QB track ends. A custom.

I like the QB track ends. Super easy to manage fat tire removal.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

[James Warren]

Really? You can do that much with a green. I have true 35 mm Paselas on my green one, and I can't fit a fender on there. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. The limiting spot is between the chainstays. Fork not so bad.

-Jim W.

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[Jim M.]

Orange QB with 50mm Big Apples. No fenders though.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/3448531380/

jim m

wc ca

[Lungimsam]

To find a SO/Quickbeam:
I'd call RBW and ask.
Sometimes they put some discontinued models for sale on the site that they dug out of storage, if I remember right. They just might have one around.

If that fails, I'd start calling around Harris Cyclery, Peter White Cycles, and http://bike123.com/used_bikes/bbused_bikeslist.php?psearch=Rivendell&Submit=Search+&psearchtype=
They may have some sitting around. You never know.
Last, mycraigsfinder allows you to search for an item on all of Craigslist at one time.

[Deacon Patrick]

As some of the stories of folks "making due" with a SS set up until they found a Quickbeam or SO, there isn't an equivalent to the QB. I recommend you do the nationwide craigslist search for the genuine article.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Palmer]

Hi all,
Absolutely not a Riv, but I have a mid 80's Fuji Palisade that I ran fixed/single for as while. Fuji Valite tubing whatever that means. Swallowed a 42mm tire with ease. It rode very nicely, I should build it up again. Current fixed/single is a Trek 311 around 1982. Only takes a 35mm tire, but looks much better and still rides great.
Good luck on the search.
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI

[Philip Williamson]

Use a longer chain?
I also have mostly changed gears with a dingle cog, which limits axle movement.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

[Jim M.]

Or get a 2nd Hillborne:

See the Blug.

jim m

wc ca

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 3:42:57 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

[Liesl]

Hah!  See?  I was an early adopter with my Faux 'Beam Bleriot before even Riv did it! Mine even has the dyno up front.  Yeah, so what Dave says! Ooooooh Snap!

[Edwin W]

Jim,

Is Riv HQ reading my mind?

Are you trying to sell me another bike?

Is the moon in the seventh house? Does Jupiter align with Mars?

Then peace will guide the planets, and love will steer the stars!

Edwin

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 3:18:54 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:

[Jim M.]

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 3:05:04 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

Is Riv HQ reading my mind?

Are you trying to sell me another bike?

I only had the one Sam, Edwin, so I can't sell you another. Riv could be reading your mind (or this post). Best to wear an aluminum under your bike helmet to prevent mind reading.  

jim m

wc ca

[JohnS]

Has anyone tried the Bianchi San Jose? Looks like the frameset is available for $400.

 

JohnS

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 6:42:57 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:

[Garth]

  There is no such thing as obsolete bicycles !   Whether you buy one from whomever or have one "made" for you, it already exists .  There are many regional frame builders who can build you one to your exact liking for <$1500.

[Father of Sam]

I had placed an order for one of the last batch of Quickbeam (silver), and switched it up after I test road one of the prototype Bombadils over at HQ.  This is what I ended up with after I built it up the first time:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/3317687950/in/dateposted-public/

It became this for bit:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/3870914885/in/dateposted-public/

...and than this as my mid-range commuter for awhile:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4826023862/in/dateposted-public/

And now I'm happily on it as a longer-range (~11 miles) commuter in its current configuration:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/17695545513/in/dateposted-public/

I can attest that the WI ENO is a wonderful way to go.  Who knew that black bikes and eccentric hubs would find a niche?

-Peter

Oakland, CA

[Patrick Moore]

That flipped bar is uber cool! Cafe racer!

I fixied/hotrodded my first 26" road Riv custom (early 1995) with an ENO, to make it into an excellent commuter. Wish I'd kept it!

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[john muhl]

I was trying to substitute for my Zeus track bike and after waiting around on a right sized QB/SO I did what others have done and use the White Industries ENO hub to convert a geared bike into a single speed. If you want a SS and want a Rivendell any of the current models paired with an ENO would make a great choice.

I originally felt like the ENO was a hack to make something workable but after using it for a bit I like it much better than track ends; so much so that if I were getting a custom single speed I'd opt for vertical dropouts.

[David Banzer]

This has me seriously rethinking what I want my Clem frameset to be.
David
Chicago

[Deacon Patrick]

That time between ordering and receiving is dangerous! Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Patrick Moore]

Note that your chain adjustment, and therefore freedom to mix cog and ring, is limited with the ENO compared to long horizontals or track ends. Also, the eccentricity can move your wheel up and down, possibly, depending on tire size and frame design, interfering with tire clearance at seatstay bridge and with fender. Finally, the eccentric also moves the wheel WRT the rear caliper, if used.

All of this may, or may not be, a problem, but I have found these problems to arise with the 2 ENOs I've owned. If you are not flipping the hub to different sprocket sizes, you'll likely not experience the 3d problem.

It is a very nice piece of equipment, though.

[Eric Daume]

+1 to what Patrick said. I used an ENO to convert my Gunnar Crosshairs to a fixed gear, but once I got a Surly Cross Check with horizontal dropouts, I "un-eccentric'ed" it. It's a nice piece of gear, but I'd rather have a frame with horizontal dropouts for dedicated single speed use.

David: you need to rethink and sell me your Clem pre sale!

Eric