What's with the MUSA shorts? Clue me in please.

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Michael

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Aug 19, 2013, 12:12:05 AM8/19/13
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Everyone seems to love them for their biking comfort.
 
I am not particularly comfortable cycling in everyday shorts or sweatpants on bikes (though 98% of my riding is done in them),
so I don't see how the MUSA's will be an improvement for me.
Am I missing something?
 
I would like to experience the benefits you all are getting from them.
But before dropping the serious coin on them, need more info about what makes them better than any other regular pants.
Thanks for your help.

Evan

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Aug 19, 2013, 12:31:52 AM8/19/13
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They're seamless in the crotch, so you can ride a long way without being chafed. (That's a prime attraction, I think; the Rivbike product description will tell you more.)

Joe Bernard

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Aug 19, 2013, 2:00:52 AM8/19/13
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Non-cycling shorts and sweats are a nightmare on a bike saddle. I've used Riv MUSA pants in the past, and Swrve shorts now: They both are cut for cycling movement, with no horrendous seams between you and saddle. Almost all of my riding is with MUSA wooly undies and Swrve shorts. It's a perfect combo, and I assume the Riv shorts would be just as good.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

Ron Mc

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Aug 19, 2013, 8:03:48 AM8/19/13
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they're baggy, they're lightweight, they don't saturate with sweat and they don't chafe your skin.  For winter riding, I love MUSA knickers and long pants, too.  

Matthew J

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Aug 19, 2013, 9:07:55 AM8/19/13
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This goes back to the earlier thread on padded vs. not padded shorts.  

If you are one of those who are fine without padding, the MUSA shorts, knickers and pants are great for the reasons the others point out above.  They are well made, breathe, and the seamless crotch works.  Some people cannot ride distance without padding.  MUSA don't help there.


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Frank

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Aug 19, 2013, 1:20:44 PM8/19/13
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Nothing magic about them, but they meet my needs. Made in the USA for a fair wage, sold at a fair price, well designed with a function-first approach, comfortable and not fussy, as good or better off the bike as on, made from colors found in nature, good for swimming, sailing, running, or just rooting around, and they last forever. My kids live in them when they're not in school.


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Ray Shine

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Aug 19, 2013, 1:25:38 PM8/19/13
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I agree. Non-padded Swobo brand is also just as comfy. I can't stand padded shorts. Too hot and sweaty. Same with gel or padded saddles. I've never suffered any problems using ordinary shorts, undies, and a non-padded leather saddle, regardless of outside temps. I can and do spend a couple of hours at a time in the combo with no discomfort other than need to stretch out a bit and shake out the legs on a walkabout before resuming the ride.



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Patrick Moore

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Aug 19, 2013, 2:05:07 PM8/19/13
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I just got back from a (fast!!! On the gofast.) 22 mile out and back on the flat, smooth Rio Grande bike trail (with a 1 mile detour to drop off my daughter's tennis racquet at her nearby school). I wore a pair of good quality, flat-seamed cotton shorts over a pair of slinky and baggy nylon boxers. I generally don't wear these shorts since, though they fit well for other activities, and certainly are well made, they suffer from too high a crotch. This was very noticeable during the first 10 miles or so -- numb nuts, while other, more fully cut shorts, cotton, street, just disappear. 

So, all street shorts are not created equal. Personally, I find that the MUSAs I've worn are cut too tight in the thigh and too high in the crotch, but my shorts and knickers are the old models (both Medium) and perhaps the new model is better in this regard. 

Some of the best riding shorts are cut from the old style, fully-pleated khakis: plenty of room in thigh, high rise, low crotch seam.

Addison Wilhite

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Aug 19, 2013, 3:43:01 PM8/19/13
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It's funny, I like the MUSA shorts, especially for touring and around the camp.  But I also find them pretty PUFFY and a bit short.  Maybe it's because I'm 5'6" and 140ish pounds (i.e. thinnish).  Conversely my Rapha touring shorts are a bit too longish though nice.  I'm like goldilocks looking for the "just right" shorts and haven't quite found them.

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Michael

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Aug 19, 2013, 5:49:46 PM8/19/13
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I just bought a pair of the blowout long MUSA's. Figure they may be good for the fall/winter with something warm under them.
Thanks for the info.
I may try the shorts if I see them on clearance, too.

cyclotourist

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Aug 19, 2013, 9:22:27 PM8/19/13
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They are puffy & short. I can handle puffy, but I'd like another 4" or
so of leg. YMMV.
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Deacon Patrick

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Aug 19, 2013, 9:25:27 PM8/19/13
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Too much longer and they become longs rather than shorts. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

Addison Wilhite

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Aug 19, 2013, 9:46:10 PM8/19/13
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They become shpants!


Revisiting an old favorite!

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Steven Frederick

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Aug 21, 2013, 11:51:21 AM8/21/13
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Yeah, kinda.  The MUSA shorts are basically designed to wear over your preferred riding (under)shorts to provide modesty and a "normal apparel" look.  Padded, unpadded, whatever floats your keister, cover them with MUSA...

Steve

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rob markwardt

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Aug 21, 2013, 1:20:24 PM8/21/13
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They are kind of short...especially the older ones.  My wish is that they were made with a different material...need some softness.  The shorts aren't bad but the longer knickers are noisy and not that comfortable...feels like I'm wearing a tarp. 
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