Bike Camping. We are DOING IT WRONG

[Christopher Chen]

I can't compete.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11961422373/

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[Mike Williams]

Looks like the means to play cricket in the right foreground,  Im definitely bringing that next time!  -Mike

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[Christopher Chen]

Mike:

I'll be there.

cc

[Aaron Young]

Don't forget to pack your hardwood floor.  And one must always be sure to arrive at camp with enough sunlight left to install it before setting up the tent.

-Aaron Young

The Dalles, OR

[Ray Shine]

We are not all doing it wrong. This was my set up for Oregon Coast ride (with BOB trailer, too!)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581354@N03/sets/72157602967676122/

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Subject: [RBW] Bike Camping. We are DOING IT WRONG

[hsmitham]

Ray your the private type aren't you.

~Hugh

[dougP]

Ray:

Your link connects to a page that says it's private, so we can't view it. 

dougP

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 9:46:16 AM UTC-8, Ray Shine wrote:

[Ray Shine]

Hopefully everyone can see these now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581354@N03/sets/72157602967676122

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[Hugh Smitham]

Yep I can see it...nice looking set up! What does that Kiva weigh? And pack dimensions? That's especially nice for wet climes. Thanks for sharing.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Ray Shine]

Hugh -- I'll have to look that up. I've owned that at least 10 years. We bought it way back in our snowshoe days. It's designed as a floorless snow shelter, and we used it on several weekend trips into the Sierra in winter. It weighs very little. One central pole and a few stakes.  On that particular Oregon trip it was always wet over night and into mid-morning. I'm glad I took it. worked well for keeping all gear, the bike, and me dry. I hauled it all on my BOB trailer pulled it behind my then new Canti-Rom. I think this was '94 or '95. I also took a roll-up camp chair. Some mornings were so foggy and wet I just boiled oatmeal and coffee and sat inside the tent looking out and eating my breakfast until the fog lifted enough to pack and leave.

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[Hugh Smitham]

Ray,

I found something similar as someone mentioned Golite:

http://www.golite.com/Shangri-La-5-Tent-P46714.aspx

They make a smaller one too.

Love the Oregon story. I presume the trip was along the Oregon coast.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Christopher Chen]

That's a classy shelter.

[Patrick Moore]

Way back in the '70s, my father had a local furniture maker in Swat or Peshawar or perhaps Kandahar reproduce a pair of Victorian portable officers' chairs, designed to be unlaced and packaged into 10" X 36" canvas bags. They graced my parents' living rooms until they started to sag and fall apart.

Made entirely of teak and leather, but light and very portable, and, very comfortable withal.

As to pre-modern tents, hiking boots, and so forth, in my admittedly limited experience they lose a huge amount to modern stuff, unless you've got a line or bearers to carry it all.

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[Ray Shine]

Go-Lite is a great company. They make really reliable stuff.  I've used their lite and fast backpacks before.  That Kiva I used was a six person.  We never had more than three in it in the snow. It was plenty roomy on that Oregon Coast trip. If I ride Oregon Coast again, I would outfit the same way.  By the way. Oregon has the best hiker-biker campgrounds I've ever seen. All have hot showers! Good job, Oregon!

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[Ron Mc]

nice hat

[cyclotourist]

The new Riv shop is going to be "Bike, Book, Hatchet and Wicket"

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

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[Leslie]

Patrick!

I've wanted a couple of roorkhee chairs for awhile now, like the canvas ones Melvill and Moon make, but they want crazy money for it, when what I'm wanting is a camp chair, for camping....

That's neat, that he had them done. Made that's what I need to do, is make my own.....

[Tim Gavin]

Yes!  That's a cool shelter.  Do you lay a piece of plastic down underneath your sleeping bag/mat?  I like that you can park your bike inside!  I'm not sold on a screen-less tent; Iowa has fierce mosquitos in summer.

I have this tent (Big Agnes Emerald Mtn SL3), which is crazy light for a 3-person backpacking tent ~5.5 lbs.  There is an optional vestibule that is advertised as big enough to be a bike garage.  I may pick one up...

 

As for retro camping gear, I love it so long as it's lightweight.  I used heavy canvas/military surplus stuff as a kid in the Scouts, but I've upgraded since.  (Modern military gear is pretty good, though; I use my combat boots and gore-tex suit often)

I managed to get a pair of home-built, barely used Frost Line down sleeping bags for cheap recently.  Frost Line was a company that offered mail-order kits (patterns and materials) to make your own outdoor gear.  http://www.oregonphotos.com/Frostline1.html

Apparently, in the 1970s it was tough to find good mountaineering gear in the states (probably why Rivendell Mountain Works made such an impression on Grant). So, many folks made their own.  

The pair of bags I found (plus an additional down insert bag, for those polar nights) are probably built tougher than a modern North Face.  They're lightweight (down!) and super warm.  Basically for 40 degrees or colder only, 'cause they're ovens above that temp.  

Kinda like great vintage lightweight bikes.  Retro, light, and just as excellent now as when they were made.

Tim Gavin

Cedar Rapids, IA

[Ray Shine]

I agree about the bug screen. I didn't experience that on the trip shown -- too wet, except for the giant banana slugs that I had to pluck off the inside of the tent walls each morning. I'll take giant banana slugs over skeeters any day. I hate skeeters. I did not bring a floor as it would get torn up with the bike and trailer. I used a bivy on this trip (you can see it in these pix), which does have a face net. I just never needed it.

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[Patrick Shea]

If you look at the pic a few slots to the right, you will see a very nice double-toptubed-triplet. 

PShea

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Mike Williams <mkernan...@gmail.com> wrote: