HTML5 Files from PTGui 9?

[Ed]

Good Evening:

Haven't had the chance to play with the latest version of PTGui, so
I'll just ask: Is version 9 capable of saving files as HTML5 or
something else that's iPad compatible? Or do I have to acquire another
program like Pano2VR for this task? Thanks.

[John Houghton]

PTGui has a "Publish to Website" option on the Tools menu. The PTGui
Viewer plugin supports Flash, CSS3D and WebGL, the appropriate
technology for display being chosen automatically.

This is a sample I produced with this option:

http://tinyurl.com/5v76wp

John

[John Houghton]

On Jul 9, 8:14 am, John Houghton <j.hough...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> PTGui has a "Publish to Website" option on the Tools menu.  The PTGui
> Viewer plugin supports Flash, CSS3D and WebGL, the appropriate
> technology for display being chosen automatically.
>
> This is a sample I produced with this option:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5v76wp

Sorry, the link somehow got truncated. It should be:

http://tinyurl.com/5v76wp7

John

[Ed]

John:

The link you posted results in a blank screen on my iPad.


Ed

[Wim Koornneef]

On 10 jul, 21:36, Ed <sewell5...@aol.com> wrote:
> John:
>
> The link you posted results in a blank screen on my iPad.
>
> Ed

Hi Ed,

The blank screen you get on your iPad must be an issue with your
device as on my iPad v1 John's pano shows fine.
Perhaps it is a memory or a cache issue, I suggest you try this:

Close Mobile Safari, double click the home button, all apps that you
have run in the past will be showed in the app bar, scroll them to you
see Safari, press on the icon of Safari for 1-2 seconds until all
icons in the bar starts wiggling, all apps in the bar are then also
showing a red "minus" sign.

Push on the "minus" sign of Safari to release the memory it occupies.
If you like you can do this for all apps to release as much memory as
possible, after this each app will function as before and you will
notice any difference

Warning ! if you click only once on the home button and then push on
an icon you will get a "X" sign instead of the "minus" sign, DO NOT
PUSH THE "X" sign or your app will be removed form your device !

After releasing the memory you press the home button once, all icons
stop wiggling and then you run Safari again, if all goes well the pano
will load normally.
Apart from releasing the memory as described above you can also empty
the Safari's cache in the Settings App to prevent loading of corrupted
tiles but I expect this will not be neccesary.


I often do the memory release procedure to keep my iPad (and iPhone)
as responsive and running fine as possible.

Success,
Wim

[Wim Koornneef]

PS,

Ed,

I now see that the dates of the postings in this thread are mixed,
normally the last posting (your blank screen message) is also the
latest one so there is a chanche that my answers has nothing to do
with your iPad issue and is solved by John's new link.
And sometimes cross postings can be a problem too.

Wim

[PTGui Support]

Yes both John's and Ed's email ended up in Google's spam box, and after
approval they were delivered in the wrong order..

Joost

[Wim Koornneef]

PS2:

Please read "newest" where I typed "latest", that makes more sense ;-)

Wim

[Wim Koornneef]

Hello Joost,

Thanks for the explanation about the wrong order.
When I see the speed of my postings I must be "trusted" by Google :-)

Wim

[Ed]

Wim:

Thanks for the concern, but as Joost said, the Great Magnet intervened
and didn't allow John's or my posts to go through, so when Joost fixed
them, the order was messed. As John said earlier, his first URL didn't
work at all because of missing characters. That was the one I
responded to initially, When he re-posted the correction, I loaded the
pano and everything worked just fine. Nice shot as well.

I had a long conversation with Apple Level 2 tech support yesterday
regarding my search for an app/program that will display interactive
panoramic images from within the iPad device, not browsing to an
Internet URL on a WiFi or 3G wave. What prompted this call was the
revelation that my iPad---and Mobile Safari---are incapable of
displaying a QTVR file. I was trying to see a pano file I had uploaded
for a client's review, but when the address was entered I got nothing
but a blank screen. Apple says Mobile Safari does not have the extra
code or plug-in capabilities that the every-day standard program has
living on one's Mac. This may be something that is addressed in the
forthcoming iOS5, but nothing is guaranteed.

Following suggestions made by a number of you folks a month or so ago
when I first asked about iPad and interactive display, I did find
"iPano," an app that doesn't do half bad. It's a bit squirrelly and
the interface can be a bother, but it looks like this is the only game
in town right now for someone like me who wants to load the pix in the
machine and have them there whenever I want, Internet connection or
not.



Ed

[PTGui Support]

Hi Ed,

QuickTime VR seems to be considered end of life by apple, I don't think
it will ever be supported in iOS.

Another app is PangeaVR Pro which supposedly has an offline mode to
store panoramas on the device.

And there are several apps to store web pages on the ipad for offline
viewing. Not sure if this will work for panoramas but you could try.

Joost

[FrankE]

Ed,
Sorry if this is not a direct answer to your question, I only read
this trhead quickly and diagonal...

I use a program called "Goodreader" on my iPad to show offline pano's
(html5). It works perfect.
Up until now I have only used Pano2VR (I didn't even know PTGui had
this functionality too), so I must test, but I assume it works the
same.
Just sync your html files to goodreader, through itunes, ftp, dropbox
or any of the numerous sync capabilities, and open the files.
Goodreader has a webviewer built right in.

I hope this is what you were trying to do. If not, I appologize.

[Joergen Geerds]

In addition to goodreader, you can try using krpano, which "supports" QTVR as a container (in other words, it extracts the cube faces from the .mov and displays them via the krpano engine:

http://krpano.com/forum/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=322 (scroll down to QTVR support)

and erik also wrote some support script: http://www.erik-krause.de/index.htm?./qtkrparse/

joergen

360nyc.com

[360texas]

Yes, I know this is PTgui list but, after stitching our imaging with
PTgui 9.x we shift our work over to Pano2vr 3.0 converter which does
generates HTML5/css3 file sets tested and suitable for display with
iPad 2, iphone4 AND if your browser has a Flash plug-in installed it
will display the flash version of the panorama.

http://360texas.com/services/sr/dbu/index.htm

/s/
dave still at 360Texas.com

On Jul 13, 10:09 am, Joergen Geerds <jgee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In addition to goodreader, you can try using krpano, which "supports" QTVR
> as a container (in other words, it extracts the cube faces from the .mov and

> displays them via the krpano engine:http://krpano.com/forum/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=322(scroll down to

[kieranmullen]

Dave the default zoom seems a bit off on that pano. Zoom in a bit.

Also AFAIK PTGUI outputs both flash and html5 at the same time too.

Could someone explain why you want both versions and one is not
allowed to choose all of one or the other in ptgui?

thanks

[360texas]

I am just guessing it is because of browser types

IE9, FireFox 5, Android and Chrome do not yet understand and can not
display HTML5 code so if they have the Flash plug-in will use Flash.

Apple Safari and mobile Safari [ipad 2 and iphone 4 do not understand
and can not display Flash so they display panoramas using html5/css3

I understand that when WEBGL is updated to yet to be released... both
browser catagories might work with Flash and Html5.

Html5 is not yet a completed W3 standard language. W3 says maybe in 2
- 3 years.

[Joergen Geerds]

On Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:11:40 AM UTC-4, 360texas wrote:

IE9, FireFox 5, Android and Chrome do not yet understand and can not
display HTML5 code so if they have the Flash plug-in will use Flash.

 

That is not true, firefox, chrome and safari (and probably opera) have no problem with html5, and offer mostly the same/similar feature set in regards to webgl and other html5 standards.

the only browser that probably will never (again) be any useful is IE, since MS stated that it doesn't like the standard:

http://gizmodo.com/5813031/in-so-many-words-microsoft-calls-webgl-the-devil

joergen

360nyc.com

[Geoff G8DHE]

Have you tried http://html5test.com/ with each of the browsers above then ?

[PTGui Support]

On 16-7-2011 8:51, kieranmullen wrote:
> Could someone explain why you want both versions and one is not
> allowed to choose all of one or the other in ptgui?

Quite simply because it never occurred to me that anyone would want that.

If you want html5 only just leave out the .swf file from your website,
then half of your viewers will be greeted with a friendly error message
instead of a panorama.

Joost

[Hans Loepfe]

meanwhile, 10 years after! 

... and still no converter for HTML5 !

The numerous browser discrepancies have somewhat diminished over the years and HTML5 has matured.

As of today - and ten years later - the output of the 'Publish to Website' tool is still supplied, almost unchanged ever since that tool became available.

Back then it was really good, very simple to use and no overhead.

Some time ago I wrote a few Panorama pages in HTML5. I've gotten pretty far by applying a nearly equal 'table'-construct, but the major obstacle is the obfuscated versions of PTGuiViewer.js (currently v2.8).

To make it somewhat work and look alright a change of the property for 'canvas' from 'absolute' to 'relative' was needed. This is far from a solution, if anything a workaround at best.

Of course there are still hick-ups. One for example is the toggle between page-view and full-screen. These and many other functions are handled by the obfuscated PTGuiViewer.js and thus nearly impossible to resolve some of the issues.

I took this effort because I do not want any third-party product to display panoramas.

PTGUI does provide that tool -  it's just totally outdated by now.

I'd reckon it's time for PTGUI to adapt the output of their 'Publish to Website' tool in its functionality to conform to HTML5 (no bells and whistles are needed, just that basic stuff).

Hope this seed bears leaves some day.

Greetings, Hans.

[Barney Meyer]

Honestly, PTGUI has developed incredibly since I started using it and I would prefer it if they stick to this task and NOT dilute their strength and efforts by getting involved in web publishing tools.

The faithful old KRPANO has a droplet tool which creates a basic web output and there are now many other web publishing solutions of many different styles and levels of complexity to suit anyone's needs.

Regards, Barney

[PTGui Support]

Hi Hans,

Yes the viewer is quite outdated. But to be honest the development of
the viewer has low priority, it's just intended to be a simple no-frills
way to get your panoramas online.

For any serious development it's better if you use MarziPano or krpano.
Or pano2vr if you need a user friendly tool.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

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