Crua family

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I'm looking for anyone whose origins are from the region of Aveiro/
Ilhavo/Calvao with the surname "Crua". Please contact me. I have an
extensive family tree and am willing to share.

[brat...@gmail.com]

Hello, I have family Crua that landed in Hawaii Then moved on to California. I would be so interested in swapping information. Please email me directly at brat...@gmail.com
Thank you, oh so excited, Lisa

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[Gene Silva]

Hi Lisa:

 

You are a rare bird. Not many of us Cruas around.

 

My grandfather was Jose da Crua. He was born in 1867 in Ilhavo, Portugal. I have traced his lineage back to about 1680, but the further I go the less information is available. Could you give me some understanding of what you know about the Crua family and perhaps the name of the most distant ancestor in your family tree? Any chance any of them have origins in the north central, coastal area, of wastern Iberia?

[l.lema]

I am so sorry for my late response. My only excuse is my computer was down.
My earliest relative is on Hawaii. I have yet to find any ship passenger list with the last name Crua. If you will be patient just a couple more days I will send you all I have on them.
Sincerely,
Lisa

[eric edgar]

Gene, Lisa,

 

A few years back I was helping Lisa with her family and found these records that relate to Crua:

 

From the Hawaii archives, this marriage record

  Crua, Manoel Medeiros - *Lima*, Mary *de* 12-1-1911 S. Hilo H-95, p. 6

 

From the California death index:

  CRUA   IDA      born 1906   09   09     fathers last name DELIMA  birthplace   HI   death place ALAMEDA   1990  12   13     84yrs old 

  CRUA   EMELIA   D   born 1899   04   04   Mothers maiden-SORES  fathers last name- DELIMA   FEMALE   HI  ALAMEDA   1992   05   13      93yrs old

 

andin  this obit for Bernard Lima

 

ERic Edgar

[eric edgar]

This is the microfilm to check for Portuguese to Hawaii:

Call Film 1002634 - 1002636
Author Hawaii. Collector of Customs

Title Ships' passenger manifests, 1843-1900.
Subject 1. Hawaii - Emigration and immigration 2. Portuguese -
Hawaii

Summary Includes separate indexes for Chinese, Japanese, and
Portuguese passengers, and a general index covering passengers of
other nationalities. This library has the Portuguese indexes only.

Only one of the Portuguese to Hawaii immigrant ship stopped at
Oporto, so I's look for the SS Braunfels 1895.

Here is description of the voyage:

The German steamer, Braunfels, under Captain Werkmeister arrived early
Wednesday morning with 732 Portuguese immigrants, and 500 tons of
general cargo for H. Hackfield & Co. The Braunfels, after spending 3
days at Oporto, Portugal, sailed from that port February 6 and arrived
at Ponta Delgada four days later. After leaving the latter place, she
sailed directly for Honolulu, passing through the Straits of Magellan
with the exception of a number of heavy gales and high seas.

The voyage of the Braunfels was a very favorable one, over 260 miles a
day was the average. This is considered fast time for the Braunfels.
The northeast trades were struck when 5 days from this port.

Of the 732 Portuguese immigrants landed at the Quarantine Station from
the Braunfels yesterday afternoon, 392 are men, 180 are women, and 160
are children. The number taken from the Azores was 734. There were 7
deaths and 5 births on the voyage. The deaths were confined to the
children, otherwise the immigrants were in a healthy condition. They
will be dispatched to their respective plantations as soon as their
time expires at the Quarantine Station.

The arrival of the Braunfels was on April 4, 1895, and over $200.00 a
piece was expanded in procuring and dispatching the Portuguese
laborers. The Planters Labor and Supply Co. held a meeting yesterday,
April 5, 1895 to discuss matters in connection with the arrival and
the disposition of the Portuguese laborers that arrived on the S.S.
Braunfels. It is likely that some of the Portuguese laborers who came
on the Braunfels will be sent off to other islands today, April 8,
1895. They are now at the Quarantine Station in charge by Wray Taylor,
Secretary to the Board of Immigration. The contracts are being
acknowledged by J.M. Vivas and the signature of Mr. Caravarro,
Portuguese Consul General is also necessary on these. They are being
well cared for and have plenty to eat. Fresh beef, vegetables,
potatoes, bread, beans, etc. go over to them daily.

On Saturday, April 6, 1895, Father Valentin went to the Immigration
grounds and baptized several children born during the voyage.
Yesterday, Sunday, in the Catholic Church, the Bishop married 12
couples from the S.S. Braunfels. They were taken to church and back in
a large bus. The Portuguese Band played in the grounds during the
Sunday afternoon for the married couples and visitors, and there was a
large number of visitors at the station from the town, Honolulu.

Eric Edgar

On Jan 14, 11:08 am, eric edgar <noblankt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gene, Lisa,
>
>  obit+Bernard+deLima+1972.jpg
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>
> A few years back I was helping Lisa with her family and found these records
> that relate to Crua:
>
> From the Hawaii archives, this marriage record
>
>   Crua, Manoel Medeiros - *Lima*, Mary *de* 12-1-1911 S. Hilo H-95, p. 6
>
> From the California death index:
>   CRUA   IDA      born 1906   09   09     fathers last
> name DELIMA  birthplace   HI   death place ALAMEDA   1990  12   13
> 84yrs old
>   CRUA   EMELIA   D   born 1899   04   04   Mothers maiden-SORES  fathers
> last name- DELIMA   FEMALE   HI  ALAMEDA   1992   05   13      93yrs old
>
> andin  this obit for Bernard Lima
>
> ERic Edgar
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2011 10:41 AM, "Gene Silva" <exta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hi Lisa:
>
> >> You are a rare bird. Not many of us Cruas around.
>
> >> My grandfather was Jose da Crua. He was born in 1867 in Ilhavo, Portugal.
> >> I have traced his lineage back to about 1680, but the further I go the less
> >> information is available. Could you give me some understanding of what you
> >> know about the Crua family and perhaps the name of the most distant
> >> ancestor in your family tree? Any chance any of them have origins in the
> >> north central, coastal area, of wastern Iberia?
>

> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:09 AM, <brat.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Hello, I have family Crua that landed in Hawaii Then moved on to
> >>> California. I would be so interested in swapping information. Please email

> >>> me directly at brat.l...@gmail.com

> >>> Thank you, oh so excited, Lisa
>

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[eric edgar]

These are marriage records from Hawaii Archives

 

Crua, Julia Medeiros - Borden, William Case	5-8-1923	S. Hilo	H-99, p. 178
Crua, Manoel Medeiros - Lima, Mary de

12-1-1911

S. Hilo

H-95, p. 6

 

 

The Army discharge papers show Frank M and Antonio M Crua, very likely same family of the Julia Mederios Crua. Intersting that Antonio born 1894 in Hawaii, but Frank

 

born Port Townsend Washington in 1912. I think Antonio is the father of Frank.

 

Eric Edgar

[eric edgar]

 

from the Oakland Tribune

 

Eric Edgar

[l.lema]

Thank you for these documents. Also, Manuel Medeiros Crua,  whoms obituary is here was married to 2 de Lima sisters. His first wife Mary de Lima died in child birth and his 2nd one is the one listed. Strange fact: both were the daughters of Manoel de Medeiros Lima( later changed to just de Lima) AND Manuel Crua's sister, Emilia Medeiros Crua married Ernest Bernard de Lima, son of Manoel de Lima. There was a lot of interfamily marriages between these families.

[l.lema]

Here is the original baptismal for my ggeandmother Emilia Medeiros Crua, sister of Manuel M. Crua who Mr. Edgar provided obit for

[brat...@gmail.com]

Mr. Edgar,

I am confused about Frank's date of enlistment. It shows his year of birth as 1912, and that he joined military 6 years later. I think date of birth is a typo. Surely they did not enlist children age 6 ?? I also seem to remember his father in census was Francisco Crua his mother something ( think Mary) Medeiros. I believe Frank and Antonio were brothers. I need to find my research. Did they enlist children? I'm most curious!

Thank you again

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[brat...@gmail.com]

Ida de Lima Crua was the daughter of my gg grandparents Manoel de Medeiros Lima and Adelaide Silveira.

Next email will have what I know or have found to date

[eric edgar]

Lisa,

 

It says he is 25 years and 7 months old shown as 25 7/12 years.

[brat...@gmail.com]

Oh ok thank you for clearing that up. You are so knowledgeable about how to and where to find information. I'm learning, digging, slowly but surely. Thank you. 

[PatrickW...@hotmail.com]

To whoever is reading this:

 

I dont know who is looking for Cruas but i have a friend staying @ my place that's a Crua and he's trying to find out if anyone of his family is left. But I hope this information works and reaches out to someone pertaining to this subject and contact me for me to contact my friend. My friend staying with me is MANUEL CRUA aka Mel full name: (Manuel Anthony Medeiros Crua Junior or Jr.) He is Portuguese Hawaiin, mother is hawaiin, father is Portuguese. My friend 'Mel' says he was raised in Oakland, California. The info im bout to type is from Mel.

Info as follows:

 

Manuel Anthony Medeiros Crua Junior or Jr.

 

Mother: Emelia Crua; maiden name Delima

Father: Manuel Medeiros Crua

Brother: Walter Crua; possible children of Walter (Craig & Lisa)

Brother: Norman Gabriel Crua

Sister: Emily Crua; possible daughter (Joanne)

Sister: Laura Crua

Sister: Vivian Crua

 

My purpose here is not for my own but for my friend Mel. If anything pls contact me PatrickW...@hotmail.com, Patrick...@yahoo.com, or Facebook search Patrick James Edward Witt.

My name is Patrick Witt and from and stay on the Pacific island of Guam, U.S.A. and my friend Mel is also staying with me and is really looking forward for any contact pertaining to his family.

 

 

 

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[eric edgar]

Here are draft records for Manuel and brother's Antone and Frank. they show that their parents moved from Papalaloa Hawaii where Manuel was born to Port Townsend Washington where Frank was born in 1892.

 

Eric Edgar

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[eric edgar]

Lisa Lema from this group has an extensive family tree at Ancestry.com with the Medeiros Crua family, lots of photos.

 

Eric Edgar

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[eric edgar]

Patrick,

 

I've worked on this family with a few different people before . Here's Mel's dad's obituary from 1954 and his mother's brother's from 1972. I'll l,ook around and see what I have. You should go to the group page and  search the messages for Crua.

 

Eric Edgar

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[eric edgar]

Patrick, and Lisa lema,

 

Here is the origin of the Medeiros Crua family. The name Crua is a corruption or nickname for Correa. This is shown on the Passporte issued for Francisco de Medeiros Correa to board the

 

SS Albergeldie on Jan 25th 1883 at Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores. He is at # 174. 21 years old and single, His father shows as Antonio de Medeiros and mother as Maria Eugenia of

 

the Concelho of Ribeira  Grande, freguesia of S. Pedro. I take that to mean Lomba de Sao Pedro. That's where to get the films for and start looking at baptisms around 1862.

 

 

You'll notice that the number on the Hawaiian arrival card # 174 matches the passport number. This group of 938 people took advantage of the Hawaiian Governments deal of free passage

 

for  a five year commitment to work on plantations.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:57 PM, PatrickW...@hotmail.com <PatrickW...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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[eric edgar]

This azulejo street sign is from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel.

 

The current assembly president of the Fenais da Ajuda freguisia in Ribeira Grande is

Maria do Patrocínio Sousa de Medeiros Correia

 

 

 

 

Eric Edgar

[l.lema]

Mr. Edgar,
Thank you so much for this information
It validates my suspicions that Crua was not original Surname.

[Curt Sly]

hi my name is curt sly, my mother was emily crua, who went by her most recent married name, emily caneva. i understand my uncle mel crua is looking for existing family members. i am sorry to say that many of his siblings have passed away including my mother emily. my mothers parents were manuel crua and emilia delima. sister laura has passed, and most recently norman. both of my grandparents were born on the hawain islands. if you wish to further communicate further please fill free to contact me.

[Karlushko]

My dear, if you are looking for delima, you have to opt for Lima only. Americans has this problems with portuguese names becouse wirite together "de" "of" in English with the rest of the name. In Portuguese we dont do it. use only LIMA on your searches.

best regards

 

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA

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