PALMER, 4th Lord (1951–2023)

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David Beamish

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Jul 11, 2023, 3:09:50 PM7/11/23
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Today in the House of Lords the Lord Speaker announced the death on 10 July of Lord Palmer. He succeeded his uncle in 1990, and in 1999 was one of the 28 Crossbench hereditary peers elected by the Crossbench hereditary peers to remain in the House of Lords. He is succeeded by his elder son Hugo Bailie Rohan PALMER (born 1980).

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Jul 11, 2023, 3:58:44 PM7/11/23
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According to Debrett's Online DB, the new baron is married with a son, Ernest Baillie Rohan, b. 2019, who becomes the heir apparent.

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Richard R

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Jul 12, 2023, 4:19:19 AM7/12/23
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The new ha's birth was announced in the times of 23 Nov 2019: https://groups.google.com/g/peerage-news/c/VHr1baYqaZI/m/4rsgv5HhBwAJ

Richard R

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Jul 14, 2023, 4:05:29 AM7/14/23
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Obit in the Times of 14 July 2023:
E X T R A C T

Lord Palmer obituary

Frugal ‘elected’ hereditary peer whose lost causes included trying to end tipping in restaurants, sell-by dates and bans on smoking

Money was no object when Manderston, near Duns in the Scottish Borders, was built in 1905 by Sir James “Lucky Jim” Miller, whose family’s wealth came from the sale of hemp and herrings to Russia.

Indeed, the architect John Kinross was told “it simply doesn’t matter” what the final bill amounted to as long as he created one of the finest stately homes in the country, with stables (described as “the finest in the country” by Horse & Hound), marble dairy, hand-crafted boathouse and the world’s only silver staircase, inspired by Madame de Pompadour’s staircase at the Petit Trianon in Versailles.

But by the time Adrian Palmer — Sir James’s great nephew on his mother’s side — and his wife took on the house and 1,500 acres of land in 1978, there was little left in the kitty, not least because his maternal grandfather, Major Hugh Bailie, still employed a butler, footman, chauffeur, at least four full-time gardeners and 17 farm staff.

Yet the Palmers not only kept the roof on but found a number of ways to modernise the farm and maintain and improve the 109-room house, opening it to the public throughout the summer, hosting commercial shooting parties and promoting it as a film location.

The latter did not always go smoothly. Allowing the house to be portrayed as Highgrove in an American CBS film about the marriage of the then Prince Charles and Princess Diana led to Palmer being expelled in 1996 from the Royal Company of Archers, the sovereign’s bodyguard in Scotland.

This came as a blow because Palmer, a member of the Huntley & Palmers biscuit family, was a staunch royalist and his father had been Lord Lieutenant for the Royal County of Berkshire.

On succeeding his uncle in 1990 … he sat as a crossbencher in the House of Lords and was well regarded … polling highly when elected as one of the 90 hereditary peers saved in 1999…

…Adrian Bailie Nottage Palmer was born in Reading, Berkshire, in 1951, the eldest son of Colonel the Hon Sir Gordon Palmer KCVO and his wife, Lorna (née Bailie). His father was the last chairman of Huntley & Palmers before Associated Biscuits (which included Peek Freans and Jacob’s) was sold to Nabisco in 1982.

The Palmer barony was created in 1933 to reward Sir Ernest Palmer — the first fellow of the Royal College of Music — for services to music. In 1948 it passed to Ernest’s son, Cecil, and two years later to Adrian’s uncle, Raymond, who became the third Lord Palmer but had no male heir…

…he had met Cornelia Wadham, who was social secretary to the wife of the British ambassador in Paris, and they were married in 1977. Shortly afterwards they took on Manderston at a time when the family was thinking of selling up… They had three children: Hugo, a racehorse trainer who runs the former footballer Michael Owen’s stables in Cheshire and now becomes the 5th Lord Palmer; Edwina, a lawyer working in M&A insurance; and George, CFO of a property group. His younger brother, Mark, is a newspaper journalist…

…His first marriage was dissolved in 2004. Two years later he married Loraine McMurrey, from Houston, Texas. That marriage ended in 2013…

Lord Palmer, landowner and crossbench peer, was born on October 8, 1951. He died of a stroke on July 10, 2023, aged 71

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lord-palmer-obituary-5vww3fdsc

Richard R

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Jul 19, 2023, 2:28:07 AM7/19/23
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From the Telegraph & Times of 19 July 2023: PALMER Lord Adrian Bailie Nottage (Manderston, Duns). Died peacefully at the Borders General Hospital on 10th July 2023. Father of Hugo, Edwina and George and grandfather to Luke, Max, Jack, Ernest and Tatiana. A Service of Thanksgiving will take place at Edrom Church, Duns… on Thursday 14th September 2023 at 2.30 p.m. and afterwards at Manderston, to which all are welcome.

Of the grandchildren, Jack is the 3rd s of his dau Hon Edwina nee Palmer, Mrs Andrew CHARLTON, whose birth has been posted immediately before this post.

Assuming Tatiana was the last-born gc, might she be the dau of his yr son Hon George PALMER b 1985 & m c2019 (eng 27 March)? If she was b after Dec 2021 she would not appear in the current GRO database?

Davina Byrne

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Aug 9, 2023, 7:09:14 AM8/9/23
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Tatiana is listed in "the peerage.com" as having been born on the 12th July 2022 (Tatiana Eveline Louise Palmer) and the daughter of Hugo and Vanessa. I value "the peerage.com" as a trusted reference.

Robert Jewell

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Aug 11, 2023, 6:26:38 PM8/11/23
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Davina Byrne's links go to the Roll of the Peerage, not peerage.com

colinp

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Dec 15, 2023, 10:56:39 AM12/15/23
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From the House of Lords MInutes of Proceedings 14 Dec 2023:

Barony of Palmer in the Peerage of the United Kingdom  The Lord Chancellor reported that Hugo Bailie Rohan Palmer had established his claim to the Barony of Palmer in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. The Clerk of the Parliaments was accordingly directed to enter Lord Palmer on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 9(4).


He is not yet on the Official Roll of the Baronetage in respect of the 1916 baronetcy


colinp

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Jan 5, 2024, 10:04:33 AM1/5/24
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Sir Hugo Bailie Rohan PALMER, 5th Baron Palmer is now entered on the Official Roll of the Baronetage as the 5th Baronet Palmer of Grosvenor Crescent
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