SELBORNE GBE, Rt Hon 4th Earl of (1940-2021)

[Richard R]

From the Times of 16 Feb 2021: SELBORNE John Roundell Palmer, the Earl of Selborne, died peacefully at home on 12 February 2021, aged 80. Private funeral. Memorial service to follow.

He was s of Maj Viscount WOLMER (1912-ka1942, s&ha of 3rd Earl of SELBORNE (1887-1971)) and as her 1st of 3 h Priscilla (1915-2010, having m 2nd her first cousin 4th Baron NEWTON (1915-92) and 3rd Frederick C H Fryer (1922-2002)) d of Capt John EGERTON-WARBURTON (1883-ka1915) scion of that gentry of Grafton Hall and as her 1st h Hon Lettice LEIGH (1885-1968, having m 2nd Lt-Col John D Walters) d of 2nd Baron NEWTON (1857-1942). He m 1969 Joanna Van Antwerp (b 28 Feb 1946 reg Q1 Oxford) d of Evan Maitland JAMES (1911-2008) of Abingdon, Oxfordshire and Joan Goodnow (1917-89, d of John Van Antwerp MACMURRAY (1881-1960, American diplomat) and Lois Root GOODNOW (1895-1963)), and had three sons and a dau. His eldest son succeeds him.

[Rt Hon] William Lewis PALMER (b 1 Sept 1971) 5th Earl of SELBORNE, has yet to establish his claim and appear on The Peerage Roll. He m 2001 Victoria Emma (b 1971 reg Q3 Yorks) d of David B F BAUM by his c1966 m (reg Q1 London) to Helen D ROSENSTEIN, and had two sons (Alexander David R PALMER Viscount Wolmer b 21 May 2002 and Hon Thomas James PALMER b 2004) and a dau (Lady Anna PALMER b 2004)

[Richard R]

Sir David Beamish posted news of Lord Selborne's death before I made my post: https://groups.google.com/g/peerage-news/c/k5H6iwojuHQ

[www.maltagenealogy.com]

The Dowager Countess of Selborne, Joanna van Antwerp. Does she have any Dutch or Belgium nobility/ancestry ?

[Harry Merritt]

Don't know the answer to your question but she does have distinguished American forebears. Her maternal grandfather was U.S. Minister to China and Ambassador to Turkey

and her great-grandfather was president of the renowned Johns Hopkins University. Her Van Antwerps came to America several generations ago so connections to European

nobility would seem remote at best.

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[S R Eglesfield]

Information about the Countess's great-great grandfather, John Henry VAN ANTWERP (12 X 1823 - 14 XII 1903), and his ancestry, can be found at https://albany.nygenweb.net/bio-303.htm. He would not appear to have been of noble lineage.

[www.maltagenealogy.com]

thank you.

[Richard R]

Obit in the Telegraph of 31 March 2021: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2021/03/30/lord-selborne-benign-landowner-apple-grower-active-politics/

[colinp]

From the House of Lords Minutes of Proceedings 5 January 2022:

Earldom of Selborne in the Peerage of the United Kingdom The Lord Chancellor reported that William Lewis Palmer had established his claim to the Earldom of Selborne in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. The Clerk of the Parliaments was accordingly directed to enter the Earl of Selborne on the register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 9(4)