Debrett's corrections, pre-2018 deaths, vol 2

[Henry W]

Following on the brief comments in the Debrett's 2019 corrections thread which is long and difficult to search, I thought the best thing to do would be to setup a new thread for corrections.  It can be closed every so often (maybe every 50 posts?) to make searching easier.  I think more recent deaths, i.e. those in 2018 or later, should be continued to be noted in their own threads, but I personally do like older corrections to be grouped together.

My first post:

MOLESWORTH viscounts

Stephen Lindsay MOLESWORTH (descended from 3rd brother of 7th Viscount), born 1925, died 2009. From the GRO indices:

MOLESWORTH, STEPHEN  LINDSAY     YoB 1925  
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q3/2009 in CAMDEN  (2501B)  Reg 1B005  Entry Number 502094424

[colinp]

MOLESWORTH Viscounts - thepeerage.com gives Stephen Lindsay Molesworth's date of death as 28 August 2009 citing unithistories.com.  DPB says he was wounded in WW2 and mentioned in despatches

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DE MAULEY Barons

I offer this rather tentatively as it requires further evidence/corroboration

Mary Veronica BARNES nee PONSONBY b 1927, dau of Rev Maurice George Jesser PONSONBY MC (1880-1943) descended from 5th son of 2nd Baron, and (m 1918 Lady Phyllis Sydney BUXTON (d 1942) dau of the 1st Earl Buxton

She may have died 12 September 2018 as there is a probate record for a lady of this name

[Henry W]

I think this is correct - with any "common" name, it is worth checking the GRO as it gives the Year of Birth:

From the GRO indices:

BARNES, MARY  VERONICA       YoB 1927  
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q3/2018 in CAMDEN  (250-1A)  Entry Number 517888764 

Camden is the correct location as this matches the NW5 address listed in Debrett's 2008 for her.

[colinp]

DILLON Viscounts - Diana Mary Morgan Johnson nee Dillon of Haliburton, Ontario, b 1926 d 2009 -  Diana Johnson Obituary - Minden, Ontario | Gordon A. Monk Funeral Home Ltd. (gordonmonkfuneralhome.com)

Life Story for Diana Mary Morgan Johnson (Dillon)

Passed away peacefully after a lengthy illness at the Peterborough Regional Health Centre on Sunday, February 1, 2009. At the age of 83.

Beloved wife of the late Reverend Gerald. Dear mother of Michele (Tom-deceased), Mumbi (Vic), Kevin (Shontel), Patrick (deceased), and mother-in-law to Terry. Loving grandmother of Kala, Saba, Seanna, Dillon, Brianna (deceased), Travis and Alex. Dear sister of Richard (deceased) (Lib), John (deceased), Sheila (deceased) (Neil), Michael (Maggie-deceased). Fondly remembered by nieces, nephews, family and friends.....

She was the dau of Brig Marmaduke Murray DILLON MC ED (1894-1976), descended from the 4th son of the 1st Viscount, and his 1st w (m 1919) Muriel HICKS.  She m 1956 Rev Gerald Cecil JOHNSON and had 2 sons and 2 daus

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DUNMORE E - Julia Fannie MACKINTOSH nee MURRAY b 1924 d 2013 -  Julia Mackintosh Obituary (2013) - Raleigh, NC - The News & Observer (legacy.com)

Julia M, Mackintosh
November 29, 1924 - August 24, 2013
Raleigh [North Carolina]
Julia Murray Mackintosh, 88, died peacefully August 24, 2013 in Raleigh, NC, surrounded by her family. Julia grew up in New York City and Garrison, NY. She graduated from Bryn Mawr College, and earned a Master's degree in Architecture from Harvard University. Julia and Robert, her husband of 60 years, raised their three daughters in Grenada, West Indies, with summers in Manchester-by-the-Sea, MA. In Grenada, Julia helped found the Westmorland School and taught biology, science, music, French, and math – there and at the Anglican High School. She particularly loved teaching biology, and was honored to hear from former students who credited her with sparking their lifelong interest in science.
On moving to Aiken, SC in 1975, Julia and Robert founded Woodlanders Nursery, a mail-order nursery that gained international recognition as one of the first to focus on the diversity of plants that thrive in the Southeastern US.
Julia and Robert 'retired' to Raleigh, NC in 1997, purchasing a house surrounded by a native plants garden (the Margaret Reid Wild Flower Garden). In retirement Julia pursued her interests in painting, natural science, conservation, gardening, walking in the woods, travel, and activities with daughters' families. She painted at Sertoma Art Center, the Fine Arts League of Cary, and the Cape Ann Artists Guild. Active members of conservation and gardening organizations, Julia and Robert shared their knowledge and love of plants with many. Julia volunteered with the NC Museum of Natural Sciences, and with Robert taught an Encore class on local wild flowers. She lured many of her friends from her art and other interest circles to enjoy and volunteer at the Reid Garden.
Julia considered her family her greatest accomplishment in life. She is survived by her husband, Robert Mackintosh of Raleigh; her daughters, Amy Mackintosh (Thomas Kagan); Louisa Mackintosh (Tony Ciaramitaro); and Susan Mackintosh (Luuk V. Van Zanten); her brother, Michael Murray (Eliane); and grandchildren, Julia and Carmen V. Van Zanten, Ian and Luke Henneberger, and Lucy and Triona Kagan.

She was the dau of Cecil Dunmore MURRAY (1897-1935), descended from the 2nd son of the 4th Earl, and (m 1921) Veronica FRAZIER (d 1988)

[Henry W]

Notice of some births not in Debrett's database:

Duff Gordon baronets

Thomas F C D-G., son of the 8th & current Bt (by 2nd m) & his wife Katherine (nee SHAND) have issue - two sons:

O S C D-G (born 2016 Herefordshire)  & A L W D-G. (born 2018 Westminster).  See GRO indices.

Frederick S D D-G.,  son of the 8th & current Bt (by 2nd m) & his wife Charlotte (nee GRIFFITHS) have issue - two dau:

C L D-G (born 2018 Hammersmith & Fulham)   &  C V A D-G. (born 2020 H&F).   See GRO indices.

This title had two young heirs, but it now is placed in a strong position going forward.

[Richard R]

BLACK Life Barony extinct 1984 (not 1985 as shown in DPB, the LP d 27 Dec 1984)

DAUGHTER DECEASED OF LIFE BARON

Hon Patricia Margaret b 1919 & d 22 Dec 2018 (probate 28 Jan 2021, death reg Q1 2019 Surrey - GRO), having m 1942 Leslie
John SMYTH 1914-99 and had a son and two daus.

[colinp]

BLACK LP - DPB online now gives the correct date for the extinction of the life barony (1984) but they have recorded the year of death of Hon Patricia as 2019 ie date of registration .  Also details of her family are given, not in the 2019 print edition

[Henry W]

NIGHTINGALE baronets

Debrett's database gives a possible line of collaterals: 

Descendants, if any, of late Charles Ethelstan Nightingale (b 1858, d post 1890), 5th son of late George Lacy Nightingale, of USA, 5th son of 11th baronet.

In fact Charles died 27 August 1926, leaving no legitimate issue. See:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/219636089/charles-ethelston-nightingale

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2020/347/219636089_fd7ce288-b61a-4bba-a507-16556827a26c.jpeg

Second link direct to death certificate - he is listed as single at death.

[colinp]

EDEN Bt (1672/1776) - Margaret Anne KIRKBRIDE nee EDEN b 1929 dau of Sq Ldr Gerald Balfour EDEN and Anne nee Macey.  Not entirely sure about this but a probate search reveals the death of a lady of this name on 22 May 2020.  GRO confirms her YOB 1929 but death was registered in Buckinghamshire whereas DPB2019 gives an address in Alnwick, Northumberland.

[S R Eglesfield]

According to http://www.thepeerage.com/p39582.htm#i395816, Mrs Kirkbride's son was living in Amersham in Buckinghamshire in 2003, so it seems possible that Colin has correctly identified her, and that she may have been residing with her son when she died.

[colinp]

I thought I had posted this but I can't find it now -  apologies if I have already done so

ELLENBOROUGH B - Margaret Augusta Eleanor BENNETT formerly SIMON-SYMONS nee LAW b 1918 d 2006

MARGARET BENNETT Obituary (2006) - The Globe and Mail (legacy.com)

MARGARET (PEGGY) AUSGUSTA BENNETT
Peggy Bennett (nee Law) passed away on Oct 21, 2006, after a short illness in her 89th year. Peggy was predeceased by her husbands, Major Dennis Simon-Symons (1969) and O. B. (Tony) Bennett. She is survived by her children, Venetia and her husband, Edward Moorhouse and James Ivor and his wife Trish Symons, and her Grand children Sonya, Simon, Timothy and Ian. During her last 8 years she became the Great Grand Mother of Oliver, Julia and Charlotte Conn and Abigail Moorhouse. Peggy was born in Toronto, but lived her early years in Europe. She returned to Ottawa in 1948 and later worked at the National Gallery of Canada. Peggy was a amazing person; she always remained a beautiful and stylish woman with panache yet with no pretensions. In her last 40 years she held court in her little houses in London England, aboard the Yacht Pellee and later in centre-town Ottawa. Over her long life, she loved her animals, Sam, Tux, Tibor, Pico and her pussy cats. Like everybody else, Peggy's life had its ups and downs and she dealt with each obstacle with her philosophy of `Oh Poof' and went on her way with dignity and decorum. Within her sphere, life was never dull!! We remember the good times and we will miss her.....

Published by The Globe and Mail on Nov. 18, 2006.

She was the dau of John Crawford LAW (1876-1919), descended from the 5th son of the 1st Baron, and (m 1917) Eleanor Agnes Letitia KINGSFORD.  DPB does not record the marriages of her children or their issue

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EGERTON Bts (1617) - Gordon MAITLAND-ROBERTS b 1919 d 2015 husband of Yexley EGERTON-WARBURTON b 1921 dau of Horace Grey EGERTON-WARBURTON (1891-1956) descended from the 7th son of the father of the 8th and 9th Baronets, and his 2nd w (m 1920) Vera LAKE 

West Australian 02.11.2015 (archived)

ROBERTS Gordon | Obituaries | The West Announcements

ROBERTS (Gordon Maitland): 05.03.1919 - 01.11.2015 Passed away peacefully at Hollywood Hospital. Beloved husband of Yexley (Boo) and loving father and father-in-law of Wade and Sally, Helen, Bruce and Roz. Pr...

[Henry W]

LINLITHGOW marquesses

Anne Eleanor HOPE (born 12 Feb 1930), died 26 December 2015.  She was descended from the 2nd son of the 1st Earl of HOPETOUN. She was unm.

Source: South Africa Government Gazette Legal Notices A dated 2017-11-10 number 41234 part 1

16218/2016—(2)HOPE,ANNE ELEANOR, 12 Februarie 1930, 3002120414084, 690 MAYFLOWER ROAD, CLAREMONT,
LOS ANGELAS, CA91711; (3) 26 Desember 2015; (5) MARINA CLIFT PROKUREUR, POSBUS 1476, SUIDER PAARL, 7624

[colinp]

From the long Debretts 2019 corrections post-

FAIRFAX of CAMERON L– Judith Victoria Fairfax nee Stovall (P419 col 2) of Lynchberg, Virginia died 28 January 2009 – legacy.com (The News and Advance 30.01.2009).  Her death notice states that her husband Ronald Cary Fairfax b 1915 predeceased her.

DPB online records the death of Ronald Cary Fairfax in 1978

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FALCONER OF HALKERTON Lordship (S 1646) Dormant - Betty Sue Johnnie nee Falconer (of Oklahoma, USA) b  21 June 1935 died 12 June 2017

Page not found - Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

The link to her obituary on the website of the Choctaw Nation (to whom her husband belonged) is broken, I believe the obit has been removed, but the following information is visible from the search page:

Betty Sue Johnnie Born: 6/21/1935 Died: 6/12/2017 Betty Sue “Gammy” Johnnie, 81, of Keota, Oklahoma, passed away June 12, 2017, in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Betty was born June 21, 1935, in Cartersville, Oklahoma, to Leard and Alva (Tom) Falconer

She was the dau of Leard Tillman FALCONER descended from Sir John Falconar, brother of the 1st Lord (to whom the Lordship was granted with remainder to his heirs male whatsoever), and (m 1933) Alva Eva TOM (d 1988). She m ? (Andrew) W[illiam] JOHNNIE (1930-2019) of Keota, Oklahoma and had issue  (not in DPB)

Her husband's obit in the Stigler News-Sentinel (Oklahoma) 7 Nov 2019:

Andrew William Johnnie was born in Roff, on Feb. 25, 1930, to Hickman and Edna (McMillan) Johnnie. He passed away in Broken Arrow on Oct. 22, 2019, at the age of 89. 

He is survived by his son, William Johnnie and wife, Cheryl, of Tulsa;  daughters, Linda Johnnie of Oklahoma City and Tammy McMahan and husband, Chuck, of Tulsa; sister, Lena Sweeney of Duncan; his grandchildren, Elizabeth Bryant, Sara Higley, Justin and Jodee McMahan, Josh McMahan and Nikki Elrod;  great-grandchildren, Riley, Jackson, Addilynn, Allyson, Justin and Isabella. 

He was preceded in death by his parents, Hickman and Edna Johnnie;  wife, Betty Johnnie; son, Michael Johnnie and his grandson, Andrew Johnnie.

Their decd son (Raymond) Michael Johnnie b 9 Apr 1956 d 22 Oct 1980 - Raymond Michael Johnnie (1956-1980) - Find a Grave Memorial

Their decd grandson Andrew Michael Johnnie b 1 Oct 1984 d 2 Oct 1984 - Andrew Michael Johnnie (1984-1984) - Find a Grave Memorial

 

[colinp]

Michael Francis Adair GREY b 1940 appears to have died 2010/2011.  DPB 2019 records him as being resident in Somerset West, Cape Province, South Africa. This South African deceased estates website page (thanks Henry W) shows two  notices for him from 2011 -  Ancestors.co.za - All Deceased Estates Years (1994 to 2022).  Unfortunately the two gazettes listed are not (yet) available here -  South Africa Gazettes 2011 - Gazettes.Africa - so his date of death cannot be ascertained.

He was the son of Cdr Aubrey Arthur Douglas GREY RN (1894-1979), scion of the Earls Grey, descended from the Rt Rev and Hon Edward Grey, Bishop of Hereford, 5th son of the 1st Earl, and (m 1928) Joan Fabian nee DICKINSON (d 1975).  He m 1975 Elizabeth nee LEAN (d 1987)

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William George Rutherford GLYN b 1927 appears to have died 2005/2006.  DPB 2019 records him as being resident in Somerset West, Cape Province, South Africa.  This South African deceased estates website shows a notice for him from 2006 -  Ancestors.co.za - All Deceased Estates Years (1994 to 2022).  Unfortunately the gazette listed is not available here -  South Africa Gazettes 2006 - Gazettes.Africa - so his date of death cannot be ascertained.

He was the son of Douglas John GLYN (1883-1952), scion of the Glyn Baronets (1759/1803) being descended from the 3rd son of the 1st Bt, and (m 1926) Dorothy Margaret nee GORDON ( d 1962)

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HARRIS B - Gerald Rutherford Harris b 1928 d 2017 - see obit in Vancouver Sun 16.09.2017 -  Gerald Harris Obituary (2017) - Delta, BC - The Vancouver Sun (legacy.com)

Gerald R. Harris

August 28, 1928 - September 12, 2017

Gerry passed away peacefully in his sleep. He is predeceased by his wife, Vernette, and survived by his children Shelley (Corey) and Scott (Michele), his grandchildren Bryan, Megan, Kristy, Rebecca and great grandchild, Dayton. Gerry had a big heart and a wonderful life. He will be remembered fondly.

His children's spouses and their issue are not mentioned in DPB

He was the son of George Rutherford HARRIS (1903-1983) descended from the 2nd son of the 1st Baron, and (m 1927) Olive Alexandria HALL (d 1986).  He m 1955 Vernette HARRIS 

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HARRIS B  - Lucille Olive Iona SPAIDAL nee HARRIS b 1930 d 2009 -   Olive Spaidal Obituary - Death Notice and Service Information (legacy.com)

Full death notice no longer available

 BORN

March 4, 1930

DIED

November 17, 2009

LOCATION

Port Coquitlam, British Columbia

She was the dau of George Rutherford HARRIS (1903-1983) descended from the 2nd son of the 1st Baron, and (m 1927) Olive Alexandria HALL (d 1986).  She m 1951 William A SPAIDAL

[Henry W]

MONTGOMERY baronets (cr 1801)

Ann Vernon EGAN (nee MONTGOMERY) 1945 - 2012, descended from 4th son of 1st Bt

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196881725/ann-vernon-egan

Ann Montgomery Egan, 67 of Warrenton, VA passed away on November 26, 2012 at her home.

She was born on November 2, 1945 in Washington, DC a daughter of the late Ian S. Montgomery and Neva Minton Montgomery.

Ann was a graduate of Springfield College and taught Physical Education and loved to coach while living in Connecticut and Massachusetts. She especially enjoyed coaching her two daughters in gymnastics, field hockey and tennis. In the last ten years, she has enjoyed sewing as a hobby and caring for her dogs who she loved. She will be remembered as working for years in the auto parts division of Warrenton Foreign Car.

She is survived by two daughters- Cheryl Ann Budd of Warrenton and Michelle Montgomery Jones, Washington, DC; her brother- Brian Montgomery of Warrenton and sister- Sheila Weaver of Hume, VA; and five grandchildren- Tyler, Hannah, and Kyle Budd and Ashleigh and Caitlin Jones.

A graveside service will be held on Saturday, Dec. 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM at the Warrenton Cemetery.

Details of the married names of her daughters and the names of all 5 grandchildren are not reflected in Debrett's database.

[Henry W]

MOORE baronets (cr 1923, ext 1992)

Mary Elizabeth Deirdre EVANS (nee MOORE), dau of 3rd son of 1st baronet, born 1937. She died 10 June 2017

https://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/214888/evans
Mary Elizabeth Deirdre (née Moore), died at home on 10th June 2017. Dearly loved wife of the late David Evans, mother of Peter and Juliet, and grandmother. Service at 2 pm on Monday, 26th June at St Boniface Church, Bunbury. [...]

Notice placed by Juliet FLOWER - this is presumably her dau.  No marriages or issue for either of her children are noted in Debrett's database.

[Henry W]

MOTT baronets (cr 1930)

Diana Dobell MOTT, born 1947, died 18 November 2016 (E&W probate search).  She was dau of the younger son of the 1st Baronet.

[Henry W]

MURRAY baronets (cr 1628)

Sibil Pauline Wolfe CARSON (nee [?WOLFE] MURRAY), born 1924, died 11 September 2012. She was descended from the 2nd Baronet.

https://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/154042/carson

Sibyl Pauline Wolfe.— (Edinburgh/Inverness-shire). Peacefully on Tuesday 11th September 2012, aged 87. Widow of the late Lt Col Derek Carson OBE. Much loved sister, mother, grandmother and great grandmother. Funeral will be held at Daviot Kirk, Inverness-shire, on Tuesday 25th September at 12 noon. Family flowers only. [...]

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Francis Godolphin Osborne, 5th Duke of Leeds (29 Jan 1751-31 Jan 1799); m.1st London 29 Nov 1773 (div 1779) Lady Amelia Darcy, Bss Darcy & Conyers (12 Oct 1754-27 Jan 1784); m.2nd 11 Oct 1788 Catherine Anguish (21 Jan 1764-8 Oct 1837), whose great-grandfather, Edmund Anguish, was maternal grandson of Sir Thomas Allin, Bt., and brother of Richard Anguish, later Allen [or Allin], cr Baronet 1699
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Lady Catherine Anne Sarah Osborne (13 Mar 1798-23 Dec 1878); m.1819 John Whyte Melville (d.16 Jul 1883)
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Elizabeth Charlotte Melville (d.4 Oct 1857); m.25 Mar 1852 James Murray, of Cringletie and Westshields (11 May 1814-1890)
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Philip Charles Knightley Wolfe Murray (20 Apr 1856-5 Nov 1932); m.6 Jan 1886 Ellie Blanch de Winton (d.25 Jun 1938)
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Robert Alexander Wolfe Murray (2 Jun 1889-Nov 1973); m.1 Jun 1923 Isobel Mary Baxter (1894-1970), niece of Sir George Baxter, Bt.
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Sibyl Pauline Wolfe Murray (28 Sep 1924-11 Sep 2012); m.25 Sep 1951 Frank Derek Carson (d.16 Mar 1997)

[Henry W]

PLATT baronets & Baron PLATT (for life)

I offer this tentatively - corroboration would be useful, but I think the evidence points to this being the correct person

Sylvia Jean PLATT, Baroness PLATT, widow of Life Baron and 1st Baronet

I think she died 11 October 2015

https://www.justgiving.com/remember/235615/Sylvia%20Jean-Platt

Above page shows a musician of that name, living 11 February 1930 - 10 October 2015.  Lady Platt's postnominal in DB 2008 is ARCM (Associate of the Royal College of Music), which matches.

I checked for her birth (under Sylvia Jean CAVELEY) - only one person of this name, and she was born Q1 1930, which again matches.

[Henry W]

Notice of some births not in Debrett's database:

MOSTYN barons

David T LLOYD-MOSTYN [nb - Debrett's does not use a hyphenated surname, but the family do in social media & birth registrations], b 1980, 3rd son of Roger L-M. (b 1941, heir presumptive, descended from 2nd Baron).

He m. 2008 Angela BRZEZINKA (social media) and with her has issue:

(a son) J C L-M.  b Q2 2013 Manchester

(a son) L P L-M.  b Q1 2015 Manchester

[Henry W]

OXFUIRD viscounts

A number of deaths not known to Debrett's database - I have built on Colin's post (here), but this is not reflected on the database either.

As reported by Colin:

Richard John MAKGILL, born 1926, died 18 Sept 2016 (descended from 10th Bt)

https://notices.nzherald.co.nz/nz/obituaries/nzherald-nz/name/richard-makgill-obituary?pid=181539182

MAKGILL, Richard John (Dick). Passed away at Tauranga Hospital on 18th September 2016. Aged 90 years young. Dearly loved husband of the late Marjorie. Loved father and father in law of Janet and Trevor Coleman, Alan and the late Yvonne Russell, Stuart and Natalie Makgill, and the late Roy Makgill. Loved ?'Grandad Dick?' of Matthew, Michael, Mark, Adam, Megan, Andrew, Steven, Rebecca, and great grandad of Summer, Poppy, Ethan, and Loki. According to Dick?'s wishes a ?'no nonsense, easy peasy?' private cremation has been held.

Clear from this that some other deaths not reported:

Marjorie Ann MAKGILL (nee JAMIESON), wife of above, died 23 July 2011

https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/14413-makgill-marjorie-ann.html

Passed away after a long illness at Waipuna Hospice on 23rd July 2011, with her family. Aged 83 years.  Dearly loved wife and soul mate of Dick.  Special Mum and mother in law of Janet and Trevor Coleman, Yvonne and Alan Russell, Stuart and Natalie Makgill, and the late Roy Makgill.  Loved Nana of Michael, Matthew, Andrew, Steven, Mark, Adam, Megan and Rebecca, and Great Nana of Amber, Summer, Poppy and Ethan.  A service for Marjorie will be held at Pyes Pa Memorial Park Chapel, 403 Pyes Pa Road, on Wednesday 27th July at 11am followed by a private cremation.  In lieu of flowers donations can be made to the Waipuna Hospice and can be left at the service.

Yvonne Kathleen RUSSELL (nee MAKGILL), dau of above, died 21 August 2016

https://www.legacy.com/nz/obituaries/nzherald-nz/name/yvonne-russell-obituary?pid=181181863

RUSSELL, Yvonne Kathleen (nee Makgill). Born June 11, 1954. Passed away peacefully at Tauranga Hospital Sunday 21st August 2016, aged 62 years. A fighter to the end. Dearly loved wife of Alan, cherised mother of Andrew and Steven, loved nana to Summer and Poppy and loved sister of Janet, Stuart and the late Roy, loved aunt to all her nieces and nephews. Beloved daughter of Dick and the late Marj Makgill. Funeral service to be held at Pyes Pa Crematorium 403 Pyes Pa Road Tauranga at 2pm Tuesday 30th August. All communications to 633 Hamurana Road R.D.7 Rotorua. In lieu of flowers, donations to The Heart Foundation may be left at the service.

This last notice clearly establishes that two great grandchildren of Richard & Marjorie (Summer & Poppy) descend from their dau Yvonne.

After significant work in social media I have established that Adam MAKGILL (b 1985), son of Stuart M., m ?2016 Abby NEW and had issue: two sons Ethan (b 2010) and Loki (b 2014).  These sons are probably NOT in remainder.

Marjorie's 2011 death notice leaves us with an additional great grandchild, Amber, who is not listed in the 2016 notice - has she died?

[colinp]

HILL baronets (1779) - Janice Ann b 1940 d 2013 - From Herald Sun 31.07.2013:

HAYNES. - Janice Ann. 30.9.1940 - 29.5.2013 Aged 72 years Loving wife to Ron (dec.). Adored mother and mother-in- law to Diane, Michelle, Joanne, Belinda and Stewart. Cherished Nanna to 8 grandchildren. Now reunited with Dad

She was dau of Cyril Edward HILL (1908-1988), descended from 2nd son of 1st Bt, and (m 1931) Mary Elizabeth TINKER. She m 1962 Ronald Arthur HAYNES and had 4 daus (Stewart, a husband, not in DPB nor any grandchildren)

Her husband Ronald's death notice gives the grandchildren's names:

HAYNES. - Ronald Arthur. Passed away peacefully Sept. 23, 2008 Very dearly loved husband of Jan, loving father of Diane, Michelle, Joanne and Belinda, father-in-law of Stewart, loving Pa of Emily, Shaun, Taylor, Brayden, Cody, William and Mitchell.

Date listed: 24/9/2008

Publication: Herald Sun

[colinp]

Have started a new post here:

Debrett's corrections, pre-2018 deaths, vol 3 (google.com)