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NukeDude

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May 2, 2011, 1:18:06 PM5/2/11
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I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

Dan C

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May 2, 2011, 1:39:09 PM5/2/11
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On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:

> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader
> for downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

Pan.


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Henderson

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May 2, 2011, 2:07:22 PM5/2/11
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On 02/05/2011 1:39 PM, Dan C wrote:
> On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:
>
>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader
>
> Pan.

Terrible idea. No undo in the editor, can get stuck sending copy after
copy of a news post, and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it
segfaults. And yes, I'm referring to the current version.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 2, 2011, 2:19:08 PM5/2/11
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Henderson wrote:

> Dan C wrote:
>> NukeDude wrote:
>>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple
>>> newsreader
>>
>> Pan.
>
> Terrible idea. No undo in the editor, can get stuck sending copy
> after copy of a news post, and if you cancel it when it does get
> stuck, it segfaults. And yes, I'm referring to the current version.

I still use the version known as the "latest stable" release, 0.14.2.91
0.133 and 0.134 are known as "beta" versions. Those latest are quite
different.

That said, the only Windows-based software I have on my, um, non-Windows
PC is 40tude Dialog, running in Wine. It is a great newsreader (and does
all binaries with ease).
http://www.40tude.com/dialog/
http://dialog.datalist.org/downloads/download.html -- 40tude Dialog
updates

Install the original, then replace the .exe with the .84 file from the
second link.

--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul

Mike Easter

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May 2, 2011, 2:23:51 PM5/2/11
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NukeDude wrote:
> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

Slyck's site is a good resource for usenet binaries.

Front door http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide
Reader section http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide_NewsReaders

His first 3 choices reflect the weight he gives to indexing.

--
Mike Easter

Henderson

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May 2, 2011, 2:35:08 PM5/2/11
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On 02/05/2011 2:19 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> That said, the only Windows-based software I have on my, um, non-Windows
> PC is 40tude Dialog, running in Wine. It is a great newsreader (and does
> all binaries with ease).
> http://www.40tude.com/dialog/
> http://dialog.datalist.org/downloads/download.html -- 40tude Dialog
> updates
>
> Install the original, then replace the .exe with the .84 file from the
> second link.

An install procedure any more complicated than right-click, save as,
run, and use is a point against your suggestion, Shagnasty.

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notbob

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May 2, 2011, 3:26:03 PM5/2/11
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On 2011-05-02, NukeDude <no...@yada.net> wrote:
> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

check out xpn at:

http://xpn.altervista.org/index-en.html

Looks like it's graphical for Windolts, but got all the serious
features like scorefile, colors, etc. Requires python, but there's
links for that, too. I've got it on an ubuntu flashdrive, but have
not used it, yet. Let us know how it works out.

nb

Mike Easter

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May 2, 2011, 3:46:56 PM5/2/11
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NukeDude wrote:
> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

What people do with a text newsreader is a completely different thing
than what they do with a binary usenet agent. That seems to me to
deserve a completely different application and shouldn't even be
confused with each other.

There is also a lot of difference between what some people like to do
with html in their mail and what other people eschew about html in mail
and news -- but it seems that quite a number of people straddle that
mail/news html/text division.

Straddling mail/news html/text agents with binaries, indexing/.nzb, par
and par2, combining, decoding and repairing, is just way too much
straddling IMO.

--
Mike Easter

s|b

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May 2, 2011, 3:49:28 PM5/2/11
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On 02 May 2011 17:18:06 GMT, NukeDude wrote:

> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

SABnzbd
<http://sabnzbd.org/>

It's got a scheduler and all.

--
s|b

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 2, 2011, 4:14:38 PM5/2/11
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Henderson wrote:

Huh? http://www.40tude.com/dialog/download.htm
Right-click on the download link, Save As..., double-click, and it
installs. What could be more complicated than that?

The points about replacing the dialog.exe file with a later version is
just a patch. I'm sorry you couldn't understand that; it seemed so
simple.

It is still a great newsreader - otherwise I'd be using Pan every day.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 2, 2011, 4:18:44 PM5/2/11
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself:

> I still use the version known as the "latest stable" release, 0.14.2.91
> 0.133 and 0.134 are known as "beta" versions. Those latest are quite
> different.

..and just in case anyone doubts my Pan version, here's a post from it.

Henderson

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May 2, 2011, 4:23:18 PM5/2/11
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On 02/05/2011 4:14 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Henderson wrote:
>> On 02/05/2011 2:19 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Install the original, then replace the .exe with the .84 file from
>>> the second link.
>>
>> An install procedure any more complicated than right-click, save as,
>> run, and use is a point against your suggestion, Shagnasty.
>
> Huh? http://www.40tude.com/dialog/download.htm
> Right-click on the download link, Save As..., double-click, and it
> installs. What could be more complicated than that?

Among other things, doing that and then replacing one of the installed
files with another one downloaded from someplace else, Shagnasty.

> I'm sorry you couldn't understand that; it seemed so simple.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

Dan C

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May 2, 2011, 4:37:32 PM5/2/11
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On Mon, 02 May 2011 14:07:22 -0400, Henderson wrote:

> On 02/05/2011 1:39 PM, Dan C wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:
>>
>>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader
>>
>> Pan.
>
> Terrible idea.

In your opinion, maybe.

> No undo in the editor,

You can define any (external) editor you want.

> can get stuck sending copy after copy of a news post,

I've been using it for 10 years, never had that happen. Not once.

> and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it segfaults.

Never happened either.

> And yes, I'm referring to the current version.

Sounds like you've got other issues.


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 2, 2011, 4:50:31 PM5/2/11
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Henderson wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Henderson wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Install the original, then replace the .exe with the .84 file from
>>>> the second link.
>>>
>>> An install procedure any more complicated than right-click, save
>>> as, run, and use is a point against your suggestion, Shagnasty.
>>
>> Huh? http://www.40tude.com/dialog/download.htm
>> Right-click on the download link, Save As..., double-click, and it
>> installs. What could be more complicated than that?
>
> Among other things, doing that and then replacing one of the installed
> files with another one downloaded from someplace else, Shagnasty.

Too tough! Well, I suppose it's not for you then, Henderson.

>> I'm sorry you couldn't understand that; it seemed so simple.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.

Classic of you to presuppose that the OP isn't a smart feller!

Bart Dinnissen

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May 2, 2011, 4:59:30 PM5/2/11
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On Mon, 02 May 2011 21:49:28 +0200, "s|b" <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On 02 May 2011 17:18:06 GMT, NukeDude wrote:
>
>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
>> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?
>
>SABnzbd
><http://sabnzbd.org/>

+1

--
Bart Dinnissen

John F. Morse

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May 2, 2011, 6:43:50 PM5/2/11
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Use 0.14.2.91.

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John

When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?

John F. Morse

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May 2, 2011, 6:44:50 PM5/2/11
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NukeDude wrote:
> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?
>

KLibido.

Indi

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May 3, 2011, 7:22:58 AM5/3/11
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On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 12:46:56PM -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
>
> What people do with a text newsreader is a completely different thing
> than what they do with a binary usenet agent. That seems to me to
> deserve a completely different application and shouldn't even be
> confused with each other.
>
> There is also a lot of difference between what some people like to do
> with html in their mail and what other people eschew about html in mail
> and news -- but it seems that quite a number of people straddle that
> mail/news html/text division.
>
> Straddling mail/news html/text agents with binaries, indexing/.nzb, par
> and par2, combining, decoding and repairing, is just way too much
> straddling IMO.
>

Some are comfortable standing, others like to sit, and then there are
those who prefer to straddle. Let them all have what they want, I say.

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Mike Easter

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May 3, 2011, 10:09:51 AM5/3/11
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Indi wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:

>> Straddling mail/news html/text agents with binaries, indexing/.nzb, par
>> and par2, combining, decoding and repairing, is just way too much
>> straddling IMO.
>>
>
> Some are comfortable standing, others like to sit, and then there are
> those who prefer to straddle. Let them all have what they want, I say.

There is also the difference between those who are 'serious' binary
downloaders and those who just want to get something binary from groups
every once in a while.

A person could 'get by' with OE and YProxy if they didn't need indexing,
but just the ability to combine and decode yEncoded multiparts.

A person could email html and plain text newsgroups with Tbird if they
didn't need scoring, regex, or wildcards for filters, but they couldn't
combine for decoding.


--
Mike Easter

James E. Morrow

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May 3, 2011, 12:38:19 PM5/3/11
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In article <Xns9ED97C07B6356du...@nomail.afraid.org>,
du...@spamherelots.com says...

> NukeDude wrote:
>
> > I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> > downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?
>
> Simple, and free: Grabit
> http://www.shemes.com/
>
While I have no plans to give up Xnews for some text groups and light
binaries, I use News File Grabber for larger binary groups. It's not
free but it works very well in Windows.

http://www.rsbr.de/Software/nfg/index.htm

--
James E. Morrow
Email to: jamese...@email.com

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 4:57:35 PM5/3/11
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Smart isn't the issue. Convenience is the issue. People expect install
procedures to be point, click, run these days, and any departure from
that is going to negatively impact adoption.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 4:59:27 PM5/3/11
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On 02/05/2011 4:37 PM, Dan C wrote:
> On Mon, 02 May 2011 14:07:22 -0400, Henderson wrote:
>
>> On 02/05/2011 1:39 PM, Dan C wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader
>>>
>>> Pan.
>>
>> Terrible idea.
>
> In your opinion, maybe.

In reality, Dan C.

>> No undo in the editor,
>
> You can define any (external) editor you want.

Does not excuse it for lacking a very basic feature, Dan C.

>> can get stuck sending copy after copy of a news post,
>
> I've been using it for 10 years, never had that happen. Not once.

Using it as a binary XOR encryption key, maybe, but obviously not as a
newsreader or you would have had it happen, Dan C.

>> and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it segfaults.
>
> Never happened either.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

>> And yes, I'm referring to the current version.
>
> Sounds like you've got other issues.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 5:00:00 PM5/3/11
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On 02/05/2011 6:43 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Henderson wrote:
>> On 02/05/2011 1:39 PM, Dan C wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader
>>>
>>> Pan.
>>
>> Terrible idea. No undo in the editor, can get stuck sending copy after
>> copy of a news post, and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it
>> segfaults. And yes, I'm referring to the current version.
>
> Use 0.14.2.91.

You must be confused. That's an *older* version than I tried, so,
presumably, worse.

John F. Morse

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May 3, 2011, 5:03:11 PM5/3/11
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No, you are the confused.

Not only in this particular message, but what I see you writing to Dan C
and BTS.

Stop presuming and just do as suggested, or get off the road.

BP

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May 3, 2011, 5:25:37 PM5/3/11
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I haven't used Pan for a while and have forgotten versions numbers. But
the (then) later version introduced problems and lost functionality of the
prior version. The solution, then, was to used the older version.

My long term solution was to go with Dialog.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 5:48:47 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 5:03 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Henderson wrote:
>> You must be confused. That's an *older* version than I tried, so,
>> presumably, worse.
>
> No, you are the confused.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Morse?

> Not only in this particular message, but what I see you writing to Dan C
> and BTS.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Morse?

> Stop presuming and just do as suggested, or get off the road.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Morse?

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 5:49:36 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 5:25 PM, BP wrote:
> I haven't used Pan for a while and have forgotten versions numbers. But
> the (then) later version introduced problems and lost functionality of the
> prior version.

Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
instead of improving it over time, BP?

notbob

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May 3, 2011, 6:03:17 PM5/3/11
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On 2011-05-03, Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote:

> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
> instead of improving it over time, BP?

Why don't you ask Microsoft, Henderson.

nb

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 6:11:19 PM5/3/11
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What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, nonbob? Windows Vista, for example, is a vast
improvement over the crummy Windows 3.11 for Workgroups I used long ago.

Kurt Steinhauser

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May 3, 2011, 6:28:25 PM5/3/11
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Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote in news:ippt9e$8hq$2...@speranza.aioe.org:

The older version that has been alluded to has been abandoned for
sometime now. The "newer" version is actually a complete re-write of
the application using C+ IIRC. The current version as has all since the
demise of ver 0.14.2.91 lacks granular scoring and perhaps some other
features. This lack of scoring has been a sore point for many people.
Perhaps the scoring will someday be addressed by the guys that have
effectively taken over the development of the application. I for one am
not holding my breath, and as you can see am still using Xnews.

--
Cheers,
Kurt

John F. Morse

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May 3, 2011, 6:28:42 PM5/3/11
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Your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous questions will go unanswered,
Henderson.

If you want to use Pan, then use it. Otherwise, don't.

You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid stooge,
so bugger off.

Or don't.

John F. Morse

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May 3, 2011, 6:29:45 PM5/3/11
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It's been answered elsewhere.

Go dig up the information you seek, and quit trying to get other people
to do your bidding.

John F. Morse

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May 3, 2011, 6:30:47 PM5/3/11
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What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with life,
Henderson?

Bugger off, Win-droid. Go update your viruses.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 3, 2011, 8:10:26 PM5/3/11
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John F. Morse wrote, about Henderson:

> You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid
> stooge, so bugger off.

Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?

I, for one, am going to ignore him.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 8:18:22 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 6:30 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Henderson wrote:
>> On 03/05/2011 6:03 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2011-05-03, Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
>>>> instead of improving it over time, BP?
>>>
>>> Why don't you ask Microsoft, Henderson.
>>
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>> newsreader software, nonbob? Windows Vista, for example, is a vast
>> improvement over the crummy Windows 3.11 for Workgroups I used long ago.
>
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with life,
> Henderson?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I made any
erroneous presupposition have to do with newsreader software, Morse?

> Bugger off, Win-droid.

Who is "Win-droid", Morse? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

> Go update your viruses.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with

newsreader software, Morse?

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 8:19:20 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 6:28 PM, Kurt Steinhauser wrote:
> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote in news:ippt9e$8hq$2...@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> On 03/05/2011 5:25 PM, BP wrote:
>>> I haven't used Pan for a while and have forgotten versions
>>> numbers. But the (then) later version introduced problems and
>>> lost functionality of the prior version.
>>
>> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software
>> worse instead of improving it over time, BP?
>
> The older version that has been alluded to has been abandoned for
> sometime now. The "newer" version is actually a complete re-write of
> the application using C+ IIRC.

What is "C+", Steinhauser? There is no programming language in this
world with that alias.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 8:20:09 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 6:29 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Henderson wrote:
>> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
>> instead of improving it over time, BP?
>
> It's been answered elsewhere.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Morse?

> Go dig up the information you seek, and quit trying to get other people
> to do your bidding.

What does your rude demand have to do with newsreader software, Morse?

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 8:21:23 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 6:28 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous questions will go unanswered,
> Henderson.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that anything I've
written was unsubstantiated or erroneous have to do with newsreader
software, Morse?

> If you want to use Pan, then use it. Otherwise, don't.

Classic pontification.

> You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid stooge,
> so bugger off.

What does your hallucination have to do with newsreader software, Morse?

> Or don't.

Classic ambiguity.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 8:22:16 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 8:10 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote, about Henderson:
>
>> You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid
>> stooge, so bugger off.

What does Morse's hallucination have to do with newsreader software,
Shagnasty?

> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?

What does your ridiculous question have to do with newsreader software,
Shagnasty?

> I, for one, am going to ignore him.

Famous Last Words.

Eggs Zachtly

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May 3, 2011, 10:35:00 PM5/3/11
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:

> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?

LMAO! Wow, I had totally forgot about that guy!
--

Eggs

It's not an optical illusion. It just looks like one.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 9:53:32 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 10:35 PM, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
>
>> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?
>
> LMAO! Wow, I had totally forgot about that guy!

Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Zachtly? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
that name.

Dan C

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May 3, 2011, 10:05:08 PM5/3/11
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On Tue, 03 May 2011 16:59:27 -0400, Henderson wrote:

> On 02/05/2011 4:37 PM, Dan C wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 14:07:22 -0400, Henderson wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/05/2011 1:39 PM, Dan C wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:06 +0000, NukeDude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple
>>>>> newsreader
>>>>
>>>> Pan.
>>>
>>> Terrible idea.
>>
>> In your opinion, maybe.
>
> In reality, Dan C.

No. Your opinion. Only.

>>> No undo in the editor,
>>
>> You can define any (external) editor you want.
>
> Does not excuse it for lacking a very basic feature, Dan C.

LOL. Then don't use it. Or define another editor. Duh.

>>> can get stuck sending copy after copy of a news post,
>>
>> I've been using it for 10 years, never had that happen. Not once.
>
> Using it as a binary XOR encryption key, maybe, but obviously not as a
> newsreader or you would have had it happen, Dan C.

Nope. I don't do binaries. Text newsreader, for 10 years, and thousands
of posts. Never had that happen, even once. Don't believe me? Go back
and look at my posts for the last year, two years, five years,
whatever... Look at the headers.

>
>>> and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it segfaults.
>>
>> Never happened either.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Wrong. It doesn't get stuck, therefore it doesn't segfault. Simple.

>>> And yes, I'm referring to the current version.
>>
>> Sounds like you've got other issues.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Hehe. Denial of reality is noted. How come thousands of other people
(and me) don't have your problems with it?

Answer that one, dimwit.


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Dan C

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May 3, 2011, 10:06:42 PM5/3/11
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OK, is there anyone still reading this thread that hasn't realized
"Henderson" is a common troll?

--
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"Bother!" said Pooh, as the antimatter containment vessel ruptured.

teabag

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May 3, 2011, 10:13:58 PM5/3/11
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On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:29:45 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:

> Henderson wrote:
>> On 03/05/2011 5:25 PM, BP wrote:
>>> I haven't used Pan for a while and have forgotten versions numbers. But
>>> the (then) later version introduced problems and lost functionality
>>> of the
>>> prior version.
>>
>> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
>> instead of improving it over time, BP?
>
> It's been answered elsewhere.
>
> Go dig up the information you seek, and quit trying to get other people
> to do your bidding.

don't waste your time< John, his last sock wass Julie Faramis. He's been
through many.

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 10:41:24 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 10:13 PM, teabag wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:29:45 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:
>
>> Henderson wrote:
>>> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
>>> instead of improving it over time, BP?
>>
>> It's been answered elsewhere.

What does Morse's classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, teabag?

>> Go dig up the information you seek, and quit trying to get other people
>> to do your bidding.

What does Morse's rude demand have to do with newsreader software, teabag?

> don't waste your time< John, his last sock wass Julie Faramis.

Who is "Julie Faramis", teabag? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

> He's been through many.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, teabag?

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 10:41:56 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 10:06 PM, Dan C wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 20:19:20 -0400, Henderson wrote:
>> What is "C+", Steinhauser? There is no programming language in this
>> world with that alias.
>
> OK, is there anyone still reading this thread that hasn't realized
> "Henderson" is a common troll?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with either
"C+" or newsreader software, Dan C?

Henderson

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May 3, 2011, 10:53:46 PM5/3/11
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On 03/05/2011 10:05 PM, Dan C wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 16:59:27 -0400, Henderson wrote:
>> On 02/05/2011 4:37 PM, Dan C wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 May 2011 14:07:22 -0400, Henderson wrote:
>>>> Terrible idea.
>>>
>>> In your opinion, maybe.
>>
>> In reality, Dan C.
>
> No. Your opinion. Only.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Dan C?

>>>> No undo in the editor,
>>>
>>> You can define any (external) editor you want.
>>
>> Does not excuse it for lacking a very basic feature, Dan C.
>
> LOL. Then don't use it. Or define another editor. Duh.

Classic pontification.

>>>> can get stuck sending copy after copy of a news post,
>>>
>>> I've been using it for 10 years, never had that happen. Not once.
>>
>> Using it as a binary XOR encryption key, maybe, but obviously not as a
>> newsreader or you would have had it happen, Dan C.
>
> Nope.

As I thought.

> I don't do binaries. Text newsreader, for 10 years, and thousands of

> of posts.

What does your history of trolling text newsgroups have to do with Pan's
tendency to get stuck, Dan C?

> Never had that happen, even once.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Dan C?

> Don't believe me?

Not when your statements contradict the evidence of my own eyes and
ears, Dan C.

> Go back and look at my posts for the last year, two years, five
> years, whatever...

What do your years of trolling newsgroups have to do with Pan's tendency
to get stuck, Dan C?

> Look at the headers.

What do your headers have to do with Pan's tendency to get stuck, Dan C?

>>>> and if you cancel it when it does get stuck, it segfaults.
>>>
>>> Never happened either.
>>
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> Wrong.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Dan C?

> It doesn't get stuck,

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

> therefore it doesn't segfault.

Classic illogic.

> Simple.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do

with newsreader software, Dan C?

>>>> And yes, I'm referring to the current version.
>>>
>>> Sounds like you've got other issues.
>>
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>
> Hehe.

What does your amusement have to do with newsreader software, Dan C?

> Denial of reality is noted.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Dan C?

> How come thousands of other people (and me) don't have your
> problems with it?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Dan C?

> Answer that one, dimwit.

Who is "dimwit", Dan C? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

anon

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May 4, 2011, 4:08:57 AM5/4/11
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NukeDude <no...@yada.net> wrote:
> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?

Binsearch + nzb (www.nzb.fi)

Mike Yetto

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May 4, 2011, 8:04:38 AM5/4/11
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Henderson <h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.

How about Hieronymus S. Freely, Mrs. Danforth, John Kirkpatrick,
Mamac, javax.swing.JSnarker or Julie Faramis.

Mike "oh, you must mean Nancy" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.

Mike Yetto

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May 4, 2011, 8:00:44 AM5/4/11
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Henderson <h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.
>On 03/05/2011 5:03 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
>> Henderson wrote:
>>> You must be confused. That's an *older* version than I tried, so,
>>> presumably, worse.
>>
>> No, you are the confused.

>What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>with newsreader software, Morse?

Well, Mrs. Danforth, the older version of Pan is the stable one.
The newer version (134?) is still lacking features and stability.

>> Not only in this particular message, but what I see you writing to Dan C
>> and BTS.

>What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>with newsreader software, Morse?

>> Stop presuming and just do as suggested, or get off the road.

>What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>newsreader software, Morse?

Mike "you for got the '[' and ']'" Yetto

Doug Freyburger

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May 4, 2011, 10:11:32 AM5/4/11
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I thought the reference was to the character in the popular detective
novel series rather than to a poster using that handle. ;^)

John F. Morse

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May 4, 2011, 12:12:19 PM5/4/11
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote, about Henderson:
>
>
>> You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid
>> stooge, so bugger off.
>>
>
> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?
>
> I, for one, am going to ignore him.
>

+1 ;-)

XS11E

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May 4, 2011, 1:38:55 PM5/4/11
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NukeDude <no...@yada.net> wrote:

> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple
> newsreader for downloading multi-part binaries. Any
> ideas/suggestions?

Why downgrade to a much inferior newsreader?
IMHO, newsreaders come in two categories, Xnews and Sucks!

I've never found Xnews wanting for binary downloading and I've done a
LOT of it (no longer, my ISP dropped it's newsserver and I'm too cheap
to pay for one!) but you can easily obtain a seperate program for
binaries, there have been some good suggestions here.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Wayne Garmil

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May 4, 2011, 1:41:37 PM5/4/11
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On Mon, 02 May 2011 12:11:33 -0700, sittingduck
<du...@spamherelots.com> wrote:

>NukeDude wrote:
>
>> I am giving up on xnews and need a good, stable and simple newsreader for
>> downloading multi-part binaries. Any ideas/suggestions?
>

>Simple, and free: Grabit
>http://www.shemes.com/

I tried Grabit and didn't like it for one reason: it treated each
server separately instead of combining all configured servers for a
given group into one feed. So if I have 3 servers configured for this
group, I have to download all posts for this group 3 times with no way
to remove duplicate posts from each server. It is like having 3
separate news readers installed, one for each server.

I prefer how Forte Agent handles multiple servers: there is only one
folder per group, and all servers are used to populate that group. So
I see one list of posts from all the servers combined with duplicates
from the different servers merged together (I don't see this post 3
times from the 3 different servers, I see it 1 time with the MID from
each server listed as where it is available).

I hope this makes sense. If there is a way to do the kind of
multi-server combination in Grabit that I see in Forte Agent, I would
appreciate knowing what I did wrong in my configuration.

Wayne

--
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.

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Gene E. Bloch

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May 4, 2011, 3:04:42 PM5/4/11
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On 5/04/2011, Mike Yetto posted:

> Mike "you for got the '[' and ']'" Yetto

Finally - I had an LOL moment in this thread. Thanks, Mike!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 3:40:18 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 8:00 AM, Mike Yetto wrote:
> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.
>> On 03/05/2011 5:03 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
>>> Henderson wrote:
>>>> You must be confused. That's an *older* version than I tried, so,
>>>> presumably, worse.
>>>
>>> No, you are the confused.
>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>> with newsreader software, Morse?
>
> Well, Mrs. Danforth, the older version of Pan is the stable one.

Who is "Mrs. Danforth", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

> The newer version (134?) is still lacking features and stability.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. The newer version is 133,
in particular.

>>> Stop presuming and just do as suggested, or get off the road.
>
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>> newsreader software, Morse?
>
> Mike "you for got the '[' and ']'" Yetto

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Yetto?

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 3:41:19 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 3:04 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 5/04/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>> Mike "you for got the '[' and ']'" Yetto

What does Yetto's classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Bloch?

> Finally - I had an LOL moment in this thread. Thanks, Mike!

What does your cackling like a loon have to do with newsreader software,
Bloch?

Mike Faramis

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May 4, 2011, 3:43:25 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 8:04 AM, Mike Yetto wrote:
> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.
>> On 03/05/2011 10:35 PM, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
>>>
>>>> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?
>>>
>>> LMAO! Wow, I had totally forgot about that guy!
>
>> Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Zachtly? There is nobody in this newsgroup
>> using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
>> that name.
>
> How about Hieronymus S. Freely,

Who is "Hieronymus S. Freely", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

> Mrs. Danforth,

Who is "Mrs. Danforth", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

> John Kirkpatrick,

Who is "John Kirkpatrick", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

> Mamac,

Who is "Mamac", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. Though I note that the word is a Scandinavian word for "troll",
Yetto, so it would be appropriate for your use, Yetto.

> javax.swing.JSnarker

What does your Java code have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> or Julie Faramis.

Who is "Julie Faramis", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

> Mike "oh, you must mean Nancy" Yetto

Who is "Nancy", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 3:44:02 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 10:11 AM, Doug Freyburger wrote:

> Henderson wrote:
>> Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Zachtly? There is nobody in this newsgroup
>> using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
>> that name.
>
> I thought the reference was to the character in the popular detective
> novel series rather than to a poster using that handle. ;^)

What does your thought have to do with newsreader software, Freyburg?

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 3:44:53 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 12:12 PM, John F. Morse wrote:
> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> John F. Morse wrote, about Henderson:
>>
>>> You are nothing more to me than an ignorant, trolling Win-droid
>>> stooge, so bugger off.
>>
>> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?

Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Morse? There is nobody in this newsgroup

using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
that name.

>> I, for one, am going to ignore him.

Famous Last Words.

> +1 ;-)

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Morse?

John F. Morse

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May 4, 2011, 4:54:22 PM5/4/11
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What does your erroneous presupposition have to do with me?

You need to learn how to read the attributes in your newsreader of choice.

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 4:57:59 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 4:54 PM, John F. Morse wrote:

> Henderson wrote:
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>> newsreader software, Morse?
>
> What does your erroneous presupposition have to do with me?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that I made an erroneous

presupposition have to do with newsreader software, Morse?

> You need to learn how to read the attributes in your newsreader of choice.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Morse?

Indi

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May 4, 2011, 5:00:04 PM5/4/11
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On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 06:11:19PM -0400, Henderson wrote:
> On 03/05/2011 6:03 PM, notbob wrote:

> > On 2011-05-03, Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote:
> >
> >> Classic illogic. Why would a software maker make their software worse
> >> instead of improving it over time, BP?
> >
> > Why don't you ask Microsoft, Henderson.

>
> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
> newsreader software, nonbob?

Who is "nonbob", Henderson? No-one in this discussion is using
that nym.


> Windows Vista, for example, is a vast
> improvement over the crummy Windows 3.11 for Workgroups I used long ago.

What does your questionable assessment of OSes from Microsoft have to do with
newsreaders, Henderson?

--
Indi "anyone can play the tholenbot" Sharpe

XS11E

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May 4, 2011, 5:07:37 PM5/4/11
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Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote:

> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
> do with newsreader software, Morse?

"Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....

Indi

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May 4, 2011, 5:08:40 PM5/4/11
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On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:04:38AM -0400, Mike Yetto wrote:
> Henderson <h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.
> >On 03/05/2011 10:35 PM, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
> >>
> >>> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?
> >>
> >> LMAO! Wow, I had totally forgot about that guy!
>
> >Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Zachtly? There is nobody in this newsgroup
> >using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
> >that name.
>
> How about Hieronymus S. Freely, Mrs. Danforth, John Kirkpatrick,
> Mamac, javax.swing.JSnarker or Julie Faramis.
>

And tholen. That's the nym it was using when I first noticed it, and it
was trolling an OS/2 group.

--
chunk funky pi, y'all -- wooo!

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 5:10:44 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 5:07 PM, XS11E wrote:
> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
>> do with newsreader software, Morse?
>
> "Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
> ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 5:11:49 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 5:00 PM, Indi wrote:
> Who is "nonbob", Henderson?

What does your question have to do with newsreader software, Indi?

> No-one in this discussion is using that nym.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Indi?

>> Windows Vista, for example, is a vast
>> improvement over the crummy Windows 3.11 for Workgroups I used long ago.
>
> What does your questionable assessment of OSes from Microsoft have to do with
> newsreaders, Henderson?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Indi?

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 5:12:36 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 5:08 PM, Indi wrote:
> And tholen.

Who is "tholen", Indi? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

> That's the nym it was using when I first noticed it, and it
> was trolling an OS/2 group.

Who is "it", Indi? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

Indi

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May 4, 2011, 5:13:40 PM5/4/11
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Man, you must be the most easily amused person since my cat.

--
If only my interface to the time-space continuum could be unix-like... With vim keybindings, cron, and everything!

Henderson

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May 4, 2011, 5:15:46 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 5:13 PM, Indi wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:11:49PM -0400, Henderson wrote:
>> On 04/05/2011 5:00 PM, Indi wrote:
>>> What does your questionable assessment of OSes from Microsoft have to do with
>>> newsreaders, Henderson?
>>
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>> newsreader software, Indi?
>
> Man, you must be the most easily amused person since my cat.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Indi?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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May 4, 2011, 5:20:48 PM5/4/11
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Henderson made a mistake and nymshifted as "Mike Faramis":

<http://groups.google.com/group/news.software.readers/msg/6781152296bb838f?dmode=source>

Julie must be your sister, eh? Hey, with that many nyms, it really is
hard to keep track of 'em all, innit?

--
-bts
-Indecision is the key to flexibility

Mike Faramis

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May 4, 2011, 5:29:09 PM5/4/11
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On 04/05/2011 5:20 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Henderson made a mistake and nymshifted as "Mike Faramis"

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Shagnasty?

>> On 04/05/2011 8:04 AM, Mike Yetto wrote:
>>> or Julie Faramis.
>>
>> Who is "Julie Faramis", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
>> that alias.
>

> Julie must be your sister, eh?

What does your question have to do with newsreader software, Shagnasty?
I do have a sister with that name, but it doesn't mean the one Yetto was
referring to is necessarily the same one, Shagnasty. Most full names are
used by dozens of people around the world, Shagnasty, especially if the
given name is a common one, like "Julie".

> Hey, with that many nyms, it really is hard to keep track of 'em all,
> innit?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Shagnasty?

Mike Yetto

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May 4, 2011, 6:26:11 PM5/4/11
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XS11E <xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com> writes and having writ moves on.
>Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote:

>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
>> do with newsreader software, Morse?

>"Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
>ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....

So far I have this for slrn, but it should work for Xnews.

#v+
%BOS
%Score created by slrn on Sun Dec 13 11:13:01 2009

[*]
Score:: =-9999 %HS Freely/Mrs. Danforth/and other sock-puppets
%Expires:
From: Hieronymus S\. Freely
From: Mrs\. Danforth
From: John Kirkpatrick
From: Mamac
From: javax\.swing\.JSnarker
From: Julie Faramis
From: Henderson <h...@g1.f1>
From: Mike Faramis
%EOS
#v-

And this does have much to do with newsreaders.

Mike "it's been around for quite a while" Yetto

Mike Yetto

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May 4, 2011, 6:28:52 PM5/4/11
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Indi <in...@127.0.0.1> writes and having writ moves on.

>On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:11:49PM -0400, Henderson wrote:
>> On 04/05/2011 5:00 PM, Indi wrote:
>> > Who is "nonbob", Henderson?
>>
>> What does your question have to do with newsreader software, Indi?
>>
>> > No-one in this discussion is using that nym.
>>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>> with newsreader software, Indi?
>>
>> >> Windows Vista, for example, is a vast
>> >> improvement over the crummy Windows 3.11 for Workgroups I used long ago.
>> >
>> > What does your questionable assessment of OSes from Microsoft have to do with
>> > newsreaders, Henderson?
>>
>> What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
>> newsreader software, Indi?

>Man, you must be the most easily amused person since my cat.

It would be amusing to bring a laser pointer to this thread, but
I don't know how to do that. I guess I'll call for help.

Mike "andrew, andrew, andrew" Yetto

Mike Yetto

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May 4, 2011, 6:43:02 PM5/4/11
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Indi <in...@127.0.0.1> writes and having writ moves on.

I just did a quick deja-google and found a thread with J*ff R*lf
and tholen in an OS/2 advocacy group.

mike "oh, the humanity" Yetto

XS11E

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May 4, 2011, 8:30:24 PM5/4/11
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Mike Yetto <mye...@nycap.invalid> wrote:

> XS11E <xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com> writes and having writ moves on.
>>Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>
>>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
>>> to do with newsreader software, Morse?
>
>>"Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
>>ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....
>
> So far I have this for slrn, but it should work for Xnews.
>
> #v+
> %BOS
> %Score created by slrn on Sun Dec 13 11:13:01 2009
>
> [*]
> Score:: =-9999 %HS Freely/Mrs. Danforth/and other sock-puppets
> %Expires:
> From: Hieronymus S\. Freely
> From: Mrs\. Danforth
> From: John Kirkpatrick
> From: Mamac
> From: javax\.swing\.JSnarker
> From: Julie Faramis
> From: Henderson <h...@g1.f1>
> From: Mike Faramis
> %EOS
> #v-

Thanks but I just bozo 'em out as they show up. More will be along
later, I'll stick em in at that time.....

Dan C

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May 4, 2011, 11:26:22 PM5/4/11
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 17:20:48 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

> Henderson made a mistake and nymshifted as "Mike Faramis":
>
>> On 04/05/2011 8:04 AM, Mike Yetto wrote:
>>> or Julie Faramis.
>>
>> Who is "Julie Faramis", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
>> that alias.
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/news.software.readers/
msg/6781152296bb838f?dmode=source>
>
> Julie must be your sister, eh? Hey, with that many nyms, it really is
> hard to keep track of 'em all, innit?

Nah, Julie can't be his sister. I was bangin' his sister all day long,
and can assure you she had no time for posting to Usenet.


--
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"Bother!" said Pooh, as Piglet stepped on the land mine.


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Henderson

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May 5, 2011, 2:40:58 AM5/5/11
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On 04/05/2011 6:28 PM, Mike Yetto wrote:
> It would be amusing to bring a laser pointer to this thread, but
> I don't know how to do that.

What does your ignorance have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> I guess I'll call for help.

What does your distress signal have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> Mike "andrew, andrew, andrew" Yetto

Who is "andrew", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

Orange Green

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May 5, 2011, 2:42:48 AM5/5/11
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On 04/05/2011 6:26 PM, Mike Yetto wrote:
> XS11E<xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com> writes and having writ moves on.
>> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>
>>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
>>> do with newsreader software, Morse?
>
>> "Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
>> ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

> So far I have this for slrn, but it should work for Xnews.

Classic pontification.

> #v+
> %BOS
> %Score created by slrn on Sun Dec 13 11:13:01 2009
>
> [*]
> Score:: =-9999 %HS Freely/Mrs. Danforth/and other sock-puppets

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

> %Expires:


> From: Hieronymus S\. Freely
> From: Mrs\. Danforth
> From: John Kirkpatrick
> From: Mamac
> From: javax\.swing\.JSnarker
> From: Julie Faramis
> From: Henderson<h...@g1.f1>
> From: Mike Faramis
> %EOS
> #v-

Famous Last Words.

> And this does have much to do with newsreaders.

Classic pontification.

> Mike "it's been around for quite a while" Yetto

What does that have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

Orange Green

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May 5, 2011, 2:43:43 AM5/5/11
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On 04/05/2011 8:30 PM, XS11E wrote:
> Thanks but I just bozo 'em out as they show up.

What does your being a bozo have to do with newsreader software, XS11E?

> More will be along later, I'll stick em in at that time.....

What does your prediction have to do with newsreader software, XS11E?

Mike Faramis

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May 5, 2011, 2:45:48 AM5/5/11
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On 04/05/2011 11:26 PM, Dan C wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2011 17:20:48 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Henderson made a mistake and nymshifted as "Mike Faramis":

What does Shagnasty's classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have
to do with newsreader software, Dan C?

>>> Who is "Julie Faramis", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
>>> that alias.
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/news.software.readers/
> msg/6781152296bb838f?dmode=source>
>>
>> Julie must be your sister, eh?

What does Shagnasty's question have to do with newsreader software, Dan
C? I do have a sister with that name, but it doesn't mean the one Yetto
was referring to is necessarily the same one, Dan C. Most full names are
used by dozens of people around the world, Dan C, especially if the

given name is a common one, like "Julie".

>> Hey, with that many nyms, it really is hard to keep track of 'em all,
>> innit?

What does Shagnasty's classic erroneous presupposition have to do with
newsreader software, Dan C?

> Nah, Julie can't be his sister.

What does your speculation have to do with newsreader software, Dan C?

> I was bangin' his sister all day long, and can assure you she had no
> time for posting to Usenet.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Dan C?

Heike Svensson

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May 5, 2011, 2:47:05 AM5/5/11
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On 04/05/2011 6:43 PM, Mike Yetto wrote:
>> And tholen.

Who is "tholen", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

>> That's the nym it was using when I first noticed it, and it
>> was trolling an OS/2 group.

Who is "it", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

> I just did a quick deja-google and found a thread with J*ff R*lf
> and tholen in an OS/2 advocacy group.

Who is "J*ff R*lf", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

> mike "oh, the humanity" Yetto

What does your quotation have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

Gene E. Bloch

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May 5, 2011, 1:28:11 PM5/5/11
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On 5/04/2011, Mike Yetto posted:

Now see what you've done - you've gone and triggered a sock puppet
explosion on us.

Unfortunately, the expanded set of names isn't enough to make up for
the aridity of the content.

...Now it's my turn to trigger havoc, I guess :-)

Gene "I must have something better to do...mustn't I?" Bloch

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


Mike Yetto

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May 5, 2011, 6:38:06 PM5/5/11
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Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.

But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
sell them to a circus.

>Unfortunately, the expanded set of names isn't enough to make up for
>the aridity of the content.

Eventually that filter will just be on a particular news server.

>...Now it's my turn to trigger havoc, I guess :-)

>Gene "I must have something better to do...mustn't I?" Bloch

Not that I've noticed.

Mike "not that all I do is watch" Yetto

Gene E. Bloch

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May 5, 2011, 9:49:31 PM5/5/11
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On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:

> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
> sell them to a circus.

LOL!

thoolen

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May 6, 2011, 5:43:29 AM5/6/11
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On 05/05/2011 1:28 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
1> Newsgroups: news.software.readers

1> Now see what you've done - you've gone and triggered a sock puppet
1> explosion on us.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do

with newsreader software, Bloch?

1> Unfortunately, the expanded set of names isn't enough to make up for the
1> aridity of the content.

What do your set of names and your arid content have to do with
newsreader software, Bloch?

1> ...Now it's my turn to trigger havoc, I guess :-)

What does your trolling of this newsgroup have to do with newsreader
software, Bloch?

1> Gene "I must have something better to do...mustn't I?" Bloch

What does your question have to do with newsreader software, Bloch?

Boojum

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May 6, 2011, 5:45:16 AM5/6/11
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On 05/05/2011 6:38 PM, Mike Yetto wrote:
>> Now see what you've done - you've gone and triggered a sock puppet
>> explosion on us.
>
> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
> sell them to a circus.

What do Bloch's sockpuppets have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

>> Unfortunately, the expanded set of names isn't enough to make up for
>> the aridity of the content.
>
> Eventually that filter will just be on a particular news server.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Yetto?

>> ...Now it's my turn to trigger havoc, I guess :-)
>
>> Gene "I must have something better to do...mustn't I?" Bloch
>
> Not that I've noticed.

What does Bloch's lack of more constructive uses for his time than
trolling have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> Mike "not that all I do is watch" Yetto

What does that have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

Katie Gerrolds

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May 6, 2011, 5:45:46 AM5/6/11
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On 05/05/2011 9:49 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
> On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
>> sell them to a circus.
>
> LOL!

What does your amusement at Yetto's notion of selling your sockpuppets
to the circus have to do with newsreader software, Bloch?

Mike Yetto

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May 6, 2011, 8:04:43 AM5/6/11
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Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.
>On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
>> sell them to a circus.

>LOL!

Not only a troll and sock-puppet, but a gr*pp*ing l**n as well.
It's time to invoke Blinky's UIP on another news server.

Mike "too bad it isn't clever or entertaining" Yetto

Steve

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May 6, 2011, 11:30:39 AM5/6/11
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Mike Yetto wrote:
>
> Henderson <h...@g1.f1> writes and having writ moves on.
> >On 03/05/2011 10:35 PM, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
> >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
> >>
> >>> Henderson sounds a lot like Hieronymus Bosch, doesn't he?
> >>
> >> LMAO! Wow, I had totally forgot about that guy!
>
> >Who is "Hieronymus Bosch", Zachtly? There is nobody in this newsgroup
> >using that alias, though I seem to recall there once was a painter by
> >that name.
>
> How about Hieronymus S. Freely, Mrs. Danforth, John Kirkpatrick,
> Mamac, javax.swing.JSnarker or Julie Faramis.

All these socks from a Paul Derbyshire of Ottawa. Prolly his most
infamous sock is Seamus Macrae. He is using Thunderbird and had
altered the UserAgent to look like Forte Agent using about:config.
Most of his claptrap comes via aioe unless his needs to crosspost
excessively and then he uses Google. The posting style he is using
at the moment is copied from one tho...@antispam.ham of
comp.os.os2.advocacy. This is just FYI.

James E. Morrow

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May 6, 2011, 12:53:11 PM5/6/11
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In article <Xns9EDB8FB57FD...@127.0.0.1>,
xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com says...

> Henderson <h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>
> > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
> > do with newsreader software, Morse?
>
> "Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
> ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....
>
>
Henderson? There is nobody posting to this group by that name.
Henderson? Uh, Herderson? Oh yes, I forgot to check my Gravity Bozo
Bin!

--
James E. Morrow
Email to: jamese...@email.com

Henderson

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May 6, 2011, 5:20:59 PM5/6/11
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On 06/05/2011 12:53 PM, James E. Morrow wrote:
> In article<Xns9EDB8FB57FD...@127.0.0.1>,
> xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com says...
>> Henderson<h...@g1.f1> wrote:
>>
>>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to
>>> do with newsreader software, Morse?
>>
>> "Henderson" is why Luu Tran gave Xnews users killfiles and scoring
>> ability! Thank you, Luu Tran....

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.

> Henderson? There is nobody posting to this group by that name.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Morrow?

> Henderson?

What does your question have to do with newsreader software, Morrow?

> Uh, Herderson?

Who is "Herderson", Morrow? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

> Oh yes, I forgot to check my Gravity Bozo Bin!

What does your bozoness have to do with newsreader software, Morrow?

Corbomite Device

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May 6, 2011, 5:23:58 PM5/6/11
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On May 6, 8:04 am, Mike Yetto <myet...@nycap.invalid> wrote:
> Gene E  Bloch <blochx...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.

>
> >On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
> >> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild.  Or just
> >> sell them to a circus.
> >LOL!
>
> Not only a troll and sock-puppet, but a gr*pp*ing l**n as well.

What does Bloch's insanity have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> It's time to invoke Blinky's UIP on another news server.

Who is "Blinky", Yetto? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

> Mike "too bad it isn't clever or entertaining" Yetto

What does the failure of your trolling to be clever or entertaining
have to do with newsreader software, Yetto?

> In theory, theory and practice are the same.
> In practice they are not.

What does your classic pontification have to do with newsreader
software, Yetto?

Henderson

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May 6, 2011, 5:27:24 PM5/6/11
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On 06/05/2011 11:30 AM, Steve wrote:

> Mike Yetto wrote:
>> How about Hieronymus S. Freely, Mrs. Danforth, John Kirkpatrick,
>> Mamac, javax.swing.JSnarker or Julie Faramis.
>
> All these socks from a Paul Derbyshire of Ottawa.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Steve?

> Prolly his most infamous sock is Seamus Macrae.

Who is "Seamus Macrae", Steve? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

> He is using Thunderbird and had altered the UserAgent to look like
> Forte Agent using about:config.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Steve?

> Most of his claptrap comes via aioe unless his needs to crosspost
> excessively and then he uses Google.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Steve?

> The posting style he is using at the moment is copied from one
> tho...@antispam.ham of comp.os.os2.advocacy.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with newsreader software, Steve?

> This is just FYI.

What does that have to do with newsreader software, Steve?

Gene E. Bloch

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May 7, 2011, 5:33:21 PM5/7/11
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On 5/06/2011, Mike Yetto posted:

> Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.
>> On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>>> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
>>> sell them to a circus.

>> LOL!

> Not only a troll and sock-puppet, but a gr*pp*ing l**n as well.
> It's time to invoke Blinky's UIP on another news server.

> Mike "too bad it isn't clever or entertaining" Yetto

Exactly...

But Mike - you have committed an upardonable sin. You have posted
something I can't figure out, even with Google and wild cards :-)

However, I somehow find myself laughing anyway.

Mike Yetto

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May 7, 2011, 6:32:26 PM5/7/11
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Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.
>On 5/06/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>> Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.
>>> On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>>>> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
>>>> sell them to a circus.

>>> LOL!

>> Not only a troll and sock-puppet, but a gr*pp*ing l**n as well.
>> It's time to invoke Blinky's UIP on another news server.

>> Mike "too bad it isn't clever or entertaining" Yetto

>Exactly...

>But Mike - you have committed an upardonable sin. You have posted
>something I can't figure out, even with Google and wild cards :-)

>However, I somehow find myself laughing anyway.

The original should have been "gr*pp*ng l**n".

Try an OR with "**e**i** *oo*". Why that was necessary will
become apparent.

That will reciprocate the obfuscation in order to eschew the
ambiguity.

Mike "wtf?" Yetto

Gene E. Bloch

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May 7, 2011, 8:29:23 PM5/7/11
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On 5/07/2011, Mike Yetto posted:

> Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves on.
>> On 5/06/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>>> Gene E Bloch <bloc...@someplace.invalid> writes and having writ moves
>>> on.
>>>> On 5/05/2011, Mike Yetto posted:
>>>>> But we (tinw) can tag them and study them in the wild. Or just
>>>>> sell them to a circus.

>>>> LOL!

>>> Not only a troll and sock-puppet, but a gr*pp*ing l**n as well.
>>> It's time to invoke Blinky's UIP on another news server.

>>> Mike "too bad it isn't clever or entertaining" Yetto

>> Exactly...

>> But Mike - you have committed an upardonable sin. You have posted
>> something I can't figure out, even with Google and wild cards :-)

>> However, I somehow find myself laughing anyway.

> The original should have been "gr*pp*ng l**n".

> Try an OR with "**e**i** *oo*". Why that was necessary will
> become apparent.

> That will reciprocate the obfuscation in order to eschew the
> ambiguity.

> Mike "wtf?" Yetto

Well, at first I didn't notice the first l, so I read it as you
disobfuscated it, but when I noticed that l I thought I had been wrong,
but of course, I was wrong when I thought I was wrong.

Hence I just couldn't get a grep on your meaning at that time. I mean I
didn't gresp what you meant. In short, I stumbled.

Now I think I follow your meaning :-)

Gene "There is no one in this group by that name" Bloch

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