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Top five purposefully free public nntp usenet news servers (for general use)
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Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 4:07:45 PM12/15/12
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What are the best _purposefully_ public free text-only nntp servers which
allow posting by nntp client to the dozen most common text-only newsgroups:
a. news.software.readers (and other news text-only newsgroups)
b. alt.comp.freeware (and other alt text-only newsgroups)
c. comp.text.pdf (and other comp text-only newsgroups)
d. rec.autos.tech (and other rec text-only newsgroups)
e. misc.legal (and other misc text-only newsgroups)
etc
Googling I found lists of thousands of ephemeral accidentally open nntp
usenet news servers mixed in a jumble with good ones.
A. List of Open NNTP News Servers - Elf Qrin
B. Free Usenet News Servers
C. Open Directory - Computers: Usenet: Public News Servers
etc
Digging deeper, I find so far only three long-standing purposefully public
totally free nntp news servers which allow posting to the text-only newsgroups:
1. news.eternal-september.org 119 (email registration required)
2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required)
3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration whatsoever)
?
Q: Do you know of another purposefully public nntp text-only posting server?
allow posting by nntp client to the dozen most common text-only newsgroups:
a. news.software.readers (and other news text-only newsgroups)
b. alt.comp.freeware (and other alt text-only newsgroups)
c. comp.text.pdf (and other comp text-only newsgroups)
d. rec.autos.tech (and other rec text-only newsgroups)
e. misc.legal (and other misc text-only newsgroups)
etc
Googling I found lists of thousands of ephemeral accidentally open nntp
usenet news servers mixed in a jumble with good ones.
A. List of Open NNTP News Servers - Elf Qrin
B. Free Usenet News Servers
C. Open Directory - Computers: Usenet: Public News Servers
etc
Digging deeper, I find so far only three long-standing purposefully public
totally free nntp news servers which allow posting to the text-only newsgroups:
1. news.eternal-september.org 119 (email registration required)
2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required)
3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration whatsoever)
?
Q: Do you know of another purposefully public nntp text-only posting server?
Bert
Dec 15, 2012, 4:37:42 PM12/15/12
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In news:kaior1$jnp$1...@dont-email.me Tony Palermo
Don't know why you're asking this, but if it's for your own use, is
completely free an absolute requirement?
You can buy a non-expiring 50GB block for $12 from usenet-news.net. If
you really stick to text-only, that could last you a long, long time.
Heck, they don't even count headers against your quota, so you're only
charged for the articles you actually read.
I suspect that the other pay-to-play servers have similar deals.
--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
<to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> wrote:
> What are the best _purposefully_ public free text-only nntp servers
> ...
> What are the best _purposefully_ public free text-only nntp servers
Don't know why you're asking this, but if it's for your own use, is
completely free an absolute requirement?
You can buy a non-expiring 50GB block for $12 from usenet-news.net. If
you really stick to text-only, that could last you a long, long time.
Heck, they don't even count headers against your quota, so you're only
charged for the articles you actually read.
I suspect that the other pay-to-play servers have similar deals.
--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·
Dec 15, 2012, 4:58:52 PM12/15/12
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"Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:XnsA12A9EFAF1A...@216.196.97.142...
Why don't you there at IP house re-instate the non-expiring blocks your
comrade, Mike Horvath ripped off the public with?
IpHouse ripped me off and left me with many gigabytes of my non-expiring (yah
right) block.
You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
--
Sir Gregory
news:XnsA12A9EFAF1A...@216.196.97.142...
comrade, Mike Horvath ripped off the public with?
IpHouse ripped me off and left me with many gigabytes of my non-expiring (yah
right) block.
You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
--
Sir Gregory
Bert
Dec 15, 2012, 5:03:24 PM12/15/12
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In news:66fhc1....@news.alt.net " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq�"
<greghall@home.f�ke> wrote:
> Why don't you there at IP house ...
Do you really think I work there?
> You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
While you are simply an idiot.
<greghall@home.f�ke> wrote:
> Why don't you there at IP house ...
Do you really think I work there?
> You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 6:02:11 PM12/15/12
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TOSEM wrote:
> nope.
> ... and each of those you list have their own owned eccentricities.
> For best interactive experience BUY a subscription.
I wonder what a subscription buys me that I don't already have for free?
I did try to post my 30,000 line long hosts file once, and that
was rejected for pure size - but other than that, these three seem
to work fine for posting to the text-only nntp newsgroups:
a. Eternal September
b. Albasani
c. Aioe
I use them interchangeably to rotate nyms for privacy reasons.
I probably post one message or so a day, unless I'm working on a
specific problem, and even then, the 25-per-day limit is not an
inconvenience. I never post/read binaries. I only post short text.
However ...
I've got nothing against buying a subscription - but - what does a
subscription actually buy me that I can't get for free off the three
servers I've found to already be useful.
I presume paying for a subscription allows me to post more than
25 messages a day (which I don't really need), and, I presume there
is no message-length limitation (which I needed just once).
Other than that ... what does paying for a subscription buy me?
Q: Does paying allow me to change my nym frequently, for example?
> nope.
> ... and each of those you list have their own owned eccentricities.
> For best interactive experience BUY a subscription.
I wonder what a subscription buys me that I don't already have for free?
I did try to post my 30,000 line long hosts file once, and that
was rejected for pure size - but other than that, these three seem
to work fine for posting to the text-only nntp newsgroups:
a. Eternal September
b. Albasani
c. Aioe
I use them interchangeably to rotate nyms for privacy reasons.
I probably post one message or so a day, unless I'm working on a
specific problem, and even then, the 25-per-day limit is not an
inconvenience. I never post/read binaries. I only post short text.
However ...
I've got nothing against buying a subscription - but - what does a
subscription actually buy me that I can't get for free off the three
servers I've found to already be useful.
I presume paying for a subscription allows me to post more than
25 messages a day (which I don't really need), and, I presume there
is no message-length limitation (which I needed just once).
Other than that ... what does paying for a subscription buy me?
Q: Does paying allow me to change my nym frequently, for example?
Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 6:05:58 PM12/15/12
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Bert wrote:
> Don't know why you're asking this, but if it's for your own use, is
> completely free an absolute requirement?
I'm OK with buying a subscription if buying that subscription somehow
> Don't know why you're asking this, but if it's for your own use, is
> completely free an absolute requirement?
provides me an advantage over the three freely public servers I use today.
For example, does buying a subscription allow me to change nyms
frequently and does it completely hide my IP address?
Those are really my only major requirements.
> You can buy a non-expiring 50GB block for $12 from usenet-news.net. If
> you really stick to text-only, that could last you a long, long time.
the usenet-news.net server - then I'm OK with that nominal charge.
Can I constantly change nyms and completely hide my IP address
(i.e., the nntp-posting-host and reference headers must completely
change with every post)?
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Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 6:56:35 PM12/15/12
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p-0'0-h the cat wrote:
>>Q: Another purposefully public nntp text-only posting server?
> news.mixmin.net 563 ssl (no registration whatsoever)
Thank you for that inclusion as my desire is a common need.
SUNSITE:
As per their instructions at the site http://dotsrc.org/usenet/,
I had sent an empty email to news-...@sunsite.dk a month ago,
and they still have not responded. I even sent a followup email
about three weeks ago, with full headers, and still I never heard
back from them (I just checked my email and there's still nothing).
So I had pulled them off my list of free public nntp news servers.
MIXMIN:
I had not known about Mixmin (http://www.mixmin.net/peering.html).
I see they have a mail-to-news gateway (http://www.banana.mixmin.net)
where you send a formatted mail and they will repost to the USENET:
Subject: Anything you like
To: mail2new...@m2n.mixmin.net
To: mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com
From: Your Name/Email
Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
{ BODY }
I just set up a profile in my nntp client using news.mixmin.net 563
(with a blank username and password to the mixmin server) and then I
tried to post to alt.test & to this newsgroup, but all the attempts
failed saying the newsgroup didn't exist on that server.
So there must be some trick to using mixmin with an nntp client that
I need to figure out that is not explained on their web page.
I'll also try the mail-to-news gateway in the interim until I figure out
why setting the server & port didn't work (with no login or password).
Maybe we need a login & password for mixmin?
>>Q: Another purposefully public nntp text-only posting server?
>>1. news.eternal-september.org 119 (email registration required)
>>2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required)
>>3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration whatsoever)
> news.sunsite.dk 119 (email registration required) dotsrc
>>2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required)
>>3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration whatsoever)
> news.mixmin.net 563 ssl (no registration whatsoever)
Thank you for that inclusion as my desire is a common need.
SUNSITE:
As per their instructions at the site http://dotsrc.org/usenet/,
I had sent an empty email to news-...@sunsite.dk a month ago,
and they still have not responded. I even sent a followup email
about three weeks ago, with full headers, and still I never heard
back from them (I just checked my email and there's still nothing).
So I had pulled them off my list of free public nntp news servers.
MIXMIN:
I had not known about Mixmin (http://www.mixmin.net/peering.html).
I see they have a mail-to-news gateway (http://www.banana.mixmin.net)
where you send a formatted mail and they will repost to the USENET:
Subject: Anything you like
To: mail2new...@m2n.mixmin.net
To: mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com
From: Your Name/Email
Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
{ BODY }
I just set up a profile in my nntp client using news.mixmin.net 563
(with a blank username and password to the mixmin server) and then I
tried to post to alt.test & to this newsgroup, but all the attempts
failed saying the newsgroup didn't exist on that server.
So there must be some trick to using mixmin with an nntp client that
I need to figure out that is not explained on their web page.
I'll also try the mail-to-news gateway in the interim until I figure out
why setting the server & port didn't work (with no login or password).
Maybe we need a login & password for mixmin?
Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 7:04:39 PM12/15/12
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Sn!pe wrote:
> This looks suspiciously like a forgery to me.
Thanks for pointing that out as I was shocked at the response.
If it's a troll, I'll just ignore.
BTW, based on the mixmin suggestion, I found how to post using
Thunderbird:
http://www.freag.net/en/t/4bulb/news.mixmin.net
But I'm not using Thunderbird as my nntp client so I need to figure out
why just setting the port to 563 and the server to news.mixmin.net
didn't work yet.
My nntp client doesn't ask if that is SSL/TLS so maybe I need to change
my client - but port 563 should automatically default to SSL, right?
> This looks suspiciously like a forgery to me.
Thanks for pointing that out as I was shocked at the response.
If it's a troll, I'll just ignore.
BTW, based on the mixmin suggestion, I found how to post using
Thunderbird:
http://www.freag.net/en/t/4bulb/news.mixmin.net
But I'm not using Thunderbird as my nntp client so I need to figure out
why just setting the port to 563 and the server to news.mixmin.net
didn't work yet.
My nntp client doesn't ask if that is SSL/TLS so maybe I need to change
my client - but port 563 should automatically default to SSL, right?
Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 7:07:40 PM12/15/12
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Tony Palermo wrote:
> I see they have a mail-to-news gateway (http://www.banana.mixmin.net)
> where you send a formatted mail and they will repost to the USENET:
> Subject: Anything you like To: mail2new...@m2n.mixmin.net To:
> mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
> Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com From: Your Name/Email
> Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
> { BODY }
I just realized Google Gmail doesn't have any provision for changing
> I see they have a mail-to-news gateway (http://www.banana.mixmin.net)
> where you send a formatted mail and they will repost to the USENET:
> Subject: Anything you like To: mail2new...@m2n.mixmin.net To:
> mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
> Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com From: Your Name/Email
> Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
> { BODY }
the email headers (does it?).
So I think this option is only for those who can format their own email.
I'm using a Linux nntp client and trying to figure out how to set up
mixmin on port 563 - but my client doesn't ask about SSL/TLS
unfortunately.
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Tony Palermo
Dec 15, 2012, 10:24:13 PM12/15/12
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p-0'0-h the cat wrote:
> If your client doesn't do ssl I think this works on Linux
> https://www.stunnel.org/index.html
Thanks. I installed stunnel on my Linux box.
Now I'm reading how to have it talk to my newsreader:
# cp /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf-sample /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf
# vi !$
I'm trying to figure it out at this moment.
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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler {One Of Four}
Dec 15, 2012, 10:34:37 PM12/15/12
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Time to spin up the kooks again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker #39>
Bit Rot The DonkeyFelcher, in <news:kajf24$6bl$3...@dont-email.me> did
thusly write:
> news from Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com>:
> smells like seamus even more this time around
That you'd know what another guy smells like is of no surprise to any
of us, donkey felching poofter.
<snicker #40>
--
/\ Properly known as Bill
\ /\ The Monster You Kooks Can't Handle
\ / \ THERE IS NO CABAL - LONG LIVE THE NEW CABAL
\/ The AUK coup is complete. The Old Cabal is no more.
Given that some butthurt kook keeps cancelling the roster posts, they
are now included in each of my posts.
Spin, kooky, spin! <snicker #41>
Here follows the official Nov 2012 alt.usenet.kooks voting roster:
[+] is an 'aye' vote.
[-] is a 'nay' vote.
[ ] (blank) is an abstention.
[X] is a FNVW decreed award.
Vote early, vote often!
---------------
Albatross
[ ]= Emmett Gulley Obsesso Award (k8tul4$5t1$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91uhk$m7d$9...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Tar & Feathers Award (juvg2h$en8$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com)
---------------
Bit Rot
[ ]= Boötes Void Paper Tiger Award (k86g98$okb$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k8f2ju$rcu$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Kook of the Month
(ebd3c769-f031-4f4c...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com)
[X]= Nutless Gutless Award (k8cg4a$ng$1...@newsfeed.x-privat.org)
[ ]= Office of Village Idiot (k7ugmq$1uk$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91u2g$m7d$7...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= The Latest Checkmate Wife Award
(jZmdneyA8bANHjTN...@giganews.com)
[ ]= Urinal Award (not Busted Urinal)
(5omdnXL3kZyY-SzN...@giganews.com)
---------------
bobandcarole
[ ]= 20th Century Fox 8-Track Mind Award (k8c766$96m$3...@dont-email.me)
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BroilJAB
[ ]= Kook of the Month
(ccf87cd9-67ae-4823...@eo2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com)
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Checkmate
[ ]= Clueless Newbie of the Month (k8nqeg$610$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k7ehgb$j2e$3...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Lance Armstrong Trophy
(19450908-13f7-4eb3...@o30g2000vbu.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91shb$io4$2...@dont-email.me,
k91snk$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= The Dickie Dumped Award
(wfydnYRJG44gXQ_N...@giganews.com)
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Constance Knoring
[ ]= Village Pump Award (k949fa$jtf$6...@dont-email.me)
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k83nha$ave$2...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91uhk$m7d$9...@dont-email.me)
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Ehmett bin Gulley
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91ul5$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
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Fred Hall
[ ]= Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart
(k8189e$fqf$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Tinfoil Sombrero (k8qt42$9h3$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com)
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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler {One Of Four}
[ ]= Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award (trainer of K Wills)
(k89o0o$n2c$3...@speranza.aioe.org)
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Gary L. Burnore
[ ]= Failed Vacation Award (k9bjtv$4ai$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Fred Hall "Trapped in the Petting Zoo" Award
(cadb3650-b1ca-4c97...@j18g2000yqf.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k84bno$run$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k6t3dg$j03$5...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91u2g$m7d$7...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= 'What the heck it's Sunday so I'll make up another dozen awards"
Award (chine.bleu-5A877...@news.eternal-september.org)
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Greg Hall
[ ]= Clueless Newbie of the Month Award (k91pm9$loj$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= The 20th Century Fox 8-Track Mind Award
(k8nqeg$610$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
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Heinrich
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91tvd$m7d$6...@dont-email.me)
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Ï M Poster
[ ]= The Two Face Dick Award
(Nbadnd7H34i9lCnN...@giganews.com)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91ub2$m7d$8...@dont-email.me)
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Irkin Invader Zim / cain...@windstream.net / Frank Drebbin
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k91kbl$1im$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91pup$loj$1...@dont-email.me,
k91uhk$m7d$9...@dont-email.me)
---------------
kensi
[ ]= Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle Award (trainer of
Checkmate and IM Poster) (k846un$run$1...@dont-email.me)
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K Wills
[ ]= Flaming Pants Award
(38e9e2d2-eac1-489d...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= The Lance Armstrong Trophy (k8mh28$4da$3...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k8f44p$rcu$5...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k8oird$niq$1...@newsfeed.x-privat.org)
[ ]= Unabomber Surprise Award
(9bd98dbd-9bf2-44ff...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com)
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Lady Veteran
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k8f5c3$rcu$7...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= South Bass Island Lighthouse Keeper Award
(k8f912$pp8$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
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Michael Ejercito
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91tvd$m7d$6...@dont-email.me)
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Murphy
[ ]= Chernobyl Award (k6vpnc$r96$3...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Coward of the Month (k6vpnc$r96$3...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Kook of the Month (k6vpnc$r96$3...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k6vpnc$r96$3...@dont-email.me)
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NoSpamAtAll
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91tvd$m7d$6...@dont-email.me)
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Stewart
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91tnp$m7d$5...@dont-email.me)
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The Revd
[ ]= Busted Urinal Award
(18fe8fbb-5406-490e...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award; Nominated by Nadegda
(k91tvd$m7d$6...@dont-email.me)
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This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
Terms Of Use
[ ]= Bad Tacos Award (k81su7$nqg$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Busted Urinal Award (k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Drama Queen Award (k883o0$nb3$6...@newsfeed.x-privat.org)
[ ]= Emmett Gulley Obsesso Award (k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Golden Killfile Award
(91400d3d-edd6-4342...@m13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k81su7$nqg$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rajesh KOOKrappali Premature Ejaculation Award
(k81su7$nqg$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Sheldon Ko0ker Compulsive Behavior Award
(k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart
(k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
---------------
Bit Rot The DonkeyFelcher, in <news:kajf24$6bl$3...@dont-email.me> did
thusly write:
> news from Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com>:
That you'd know what another guy smells like is of no surprise to any
of us, donkey felching poofter.
<snicker #40>
--
/\ Properly known as Bill
\ /\ The Monster You Kooks Can't Handle
\ / \ THERE IS NO CABAL - LONG LIVE THE NEW CABAL
\/ The AUK coup is complete. The Old Cabal is no more.
Given that some butthurt kook keeps cancelling the roster posts, they
are now included in each of my posts.
Spin, kooky, spin! <snicker #41>
Here follows the official Nov 2012 alt.usenet.kooks voting roster:
[+] is an 'aye' vote.
[-] is a 'nay' vote.
[ ] (blank) is an abstention.
[X] is a FNVW decreed award.
Vote early, vote often!
---------------
Albatross
[ ]= Emmett Gulley Obsesso Award (k8tul4$5t1$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91uhk$m7d$9...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Tar & Feathers Award (juvg2h$en8$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com)
---------------
Bit Rot
[ ]= Boötes Void Paper Tiger Award (k86g98$okb$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k8f2ju$rcu$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Kook of the Month
(ebd3c769-f031-4f4c...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com)
[X]= Nutless Gutless Award (k8cg4a$ng$1...@newsfeed.x-privat.org)
[ ]= Office of Village Idiot (k7ugmq$1uk$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91u2g$m7d$7...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= The Latest Checkmate Wife Award
(jZmdneyA8bANHjTN...@giganews.com)
[ ]= Urinal Award (not Busted Urinal)
(5omdnXL3kZyY-SzN...@giganews.com)
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bobandcarole
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BroilJAB
[ ]= Kook of the Month
(ccf87cd9-67ae-4823...@eo2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com)
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Checkmate
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[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k7ehgb$j2e$3...@speranza.aioe.org)
[ ]= Lance Armstrong Trophy
(19450908-13f7-4eb3...@o30g2000vbu.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91shb$io4$2...@dont-email.me,
k91snk$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
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Fred Hall
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(k8189e$fqf$1...@speranza.aioe.org)
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Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler {One Of Four}
[ ]= Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award (trainer of K Wills)
(k89o0o$n2c$3...@speranza.aioe.org)
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Gary L. Burnore
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[ ]= Fred Hall "Trapped in the Petting Zoo" Award
(cadb3650-b1ca-4c97...@j18g2000yqf.googlegroups.com)
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k84bno$run$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Loony Maroon Award (k6t3dg$j03$5...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91u2g$m7d$7...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= 'What the heck it's Sunday so I'll make up another dozen awards"
Award (chine.bleu-5A877...@news.eternal-september.org)
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Greg Hall
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[ ]= The 20th Century Fox 8-Track Mind Award
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Heinrich
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Ï M Poster
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[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91ub2$m7d$8...@dont-email.me)
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Irkin Invader Zim / cain...@windstream.net / Frank Drebbin
[ ]= George Pickett Memorial Trophy (k91kbl$1im$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k91pup$loj$1...@dont-email.me,
k91uhk$m7d$9...@dont-email.me)
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kensi
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Checkmate and IM Poster) (k846un$run$1...@dont-email.me)
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K Wills
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[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k8oird$niq$1...@newsfeed.x-privat.org)
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[ ]= South Bass Island Lighthouse Keeper Award
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Murphy
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(k91tvd$m7d$6...@dont-email.me)
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[ ]= Golden Killfile Award
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[ ]= Rajesh KOOKrappali Premature Ejaculation Award
(k81su7$nqg$2...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Rubber Turkey Award (k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Sheldon Ko0ker Compulsive Behavior Award
(k921qe$m7d$1...@dont-email.me)
[ ]= Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart
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Steve Crook
Dec 16, 2012, 5:04:44 AM12/16/12
to
["Followup-To:" header set to news.software.readers.]
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:07:40 +0000 (UTC), Tony Palermo wrote in
Message-Id: <kaj3cc$it0$2...@dont-email.me>:
>> mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
>> Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com From: Your Name/Email
>> Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
>> { BODY }
>
> I just realized Google Gmail doesn't have any provision for changing
> the email headers (does it?).
>
> So I think this option is only for those who can format their own email.
You can use the mail2news gateway from gmail. You need to format the
recipient correctly instead of using a Newsgroups header.
For example:
To: mail2news-20121216-n...@m2n.mixmin.net
This will inject the message to news.software.readers. Unfortunately
there isn't a way to thread replies because you can't insert a
References header.
> I'm using a Linux nntp client and trying to figure out how to set up
> mixmin on port 563 - but my client doesn't ask about SSL/TLS
> unfortunately.
This page might help. It explains how to configure stunnel.
http://www.banana.mixmin.net/stunnel.html
--
And with glasses high we raised a cry for freedom had arrived
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:07:40 +0000 (UTC), Tony Palermo wrote in
Message-Id: <kaj3cc$it0$2...@dont-email.me>:
>> mail2news_nospam-y...@m2n.mixmin.net
>> Author-Supplied-Address: any...@anydomain.com From: Your Name/Email
>> Newsgroups:news.software.readers,alt.comp.freeware,alt.free.newsservers
>> { BODY }
>
> I just realized Google Gmail doesn't have any provision for changing
> the email headers (does it?).
>
> So I think this option is only for those who can format their own email.
recipient correctly instead of using a Newsgroups header.
For example:
To: mail2news-20121216-n...@m2n.mixmin.net
This will inject the message to news.software.readers. Unfortunately
there isn't a way to thread replies because you can't insert a
References header.
> I'm using a Linux nntp client and trying to figure out how to set up
> mixmin on port 563 - but my client doesn't ask about SSL/TLS
> unfortunately.
http://www.banana.mixmin.net/stunnel.html
--
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Dan C
Dec 16, 2012, 9:27:39 AM12/16/12
to
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:05:58 +0000, Tony Palermo wrote:
> Can I constantly change nyms and completely hide my IP address (i.e.,
> the nntp-posting-host and reference headers must completely change with
> every post)?
Why would you want to do that?
> Can I constantly change nyms and completely hide my IP address (i.e.,
> the nntp-posting-host and reference headers must completely change with
> every post)?
Fucking spammer. Fuck off and die.
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Danny D.
Dec 16, 2012, 9:40:18 AM12/16/12
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:04:44 +0000, Steve Crook wrote:
> You need to format the recipient correctly
> To: mail2news-20121216-n...@m2n.mixmin.net
> You need to format the recipient correctly
Thanks for clarifying.
I'll try that. Your instructions are much clearer than those on
the mixmin site, which imply multiple "TO" addresses plus
additional headers (which can't be done using gmail).
From what you wrote, I gather I only need the date and the
nntp newsgroup for the "TO" line.
The "SUBJECT" line would then be the nntp subject line.
And, I gather that my email address & name would be the nntp author.
I'll test that out separately.
> there isn't a way to thread replies
But I'll test it out.
> This page ... explains how to configure stunnel.
> http://www.banana.mixmin.net/stunnel.html
Thank you. That's a nice page that I had not seen in my searches.
I've been able to install stunnel on Linux and to start configuring
its stunnel.conf file. I'm not sure whether I need the privacy
enhanced mail PEM files (priv.pem & stunnel.pem) so I'm still
working on the stunnel configuration.
It's not easy to configure, despite how easy it seems to be on that
web page. I must be doing something wrong, but I'll keep trying.
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Hench
Dec 16, 2012, 1:14:31 PM12/16/12
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On 12/15/2012 4:58 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
>
> Why don't you there at IP house re-instate the non-expiring blocks your
> comrade, Mike Horvath ripped off the public with?
>
> IpHouse ripped me off and left me with many gigabytes of my non-expiring (yah
> right) block.
>
> You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
>
what are you even talking about?
>
> Why don't you there at IP house re-instate the non-expiring blocks your
> comrade, Mike Horvath ripped off the public with?
>
> IpHouse ripped me off and left me with many gigabytes of my non-expiring (yah
> right) block.
>
> You, sir, are a fucking hypocrite and an asshole.
>
Tony Palermo
Dec 16, 2012, 7:58:58 PM12/16/12
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Ï M Poster wrote:
> Do ... do you mean to say that we've been taken in?
May I ask which is it of the three groups contains all the garbage?
We should just drop that group altogether from the chain as
90% of the posts in this thread are childishly counterproductive.
news.software.readers,
alt.comp.freeware,
alt.free.newsservers
Back on topic, it seems there are only about five general purpose
text-only intentionally public newsservers, as summarized below:
1. news.eternal-september.org 119 (email registration required,
obfuscates IP most of the time, multiple nyms allowed)
2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required, obfuscates IP,
multiple nyms allowed)
3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration, obfuscates IP, multiple nyms
allowed)
4. dotsrc.org port? (email registration required however they don't seem
to be responding, IP obfuscation?, multiple nyms?)
5. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS (no registration, posts IP in the clear,
multiple nyms?, requires stunnel in order to work with most nntp clients)
I'm surprised that I found the best three out of the thousands listed in
googling. I guess I was just lucky.
Either that, or there are more out there that nobody seems to know about.
> Do ... do you mean to say that we've been taken in?
May I ask which is it of the three groups contains all the garbage?
We should just drop that group altogether from the chain as
90% of the posts in this thread are childishly counterproductive.
news.software.readers,
alt.comp.freeware,
alt.free.newsservers
Back on topic, it seems there are only about five general purpose
text-only intentionally public newsservers, as summarized below:
1. news.eternal-september.org 119 (email registration required,
obfuscates IP most of the time, multiple nyms allowed)
2. reader.albasani.net 119 (email registration required, obfuscates IP,
multiple nyms allowed)
3. nntp.aioe.org 119 (no registration, obfuscates IP, multiple nyms
allowed)
4. dotsrc.org port? (email registration required however they don't seem
to be responding, IP obfuscation?, multiple nyms?)
5. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS (no registration, posts IP in the clear,
multiple nyms?, requires stunnel in order to work with most nntp clients)
I'm surprised that I found the best three out of the thousands listed in
googling. I guess I was just lucky.
Either that, or there are more out there that nobody seems to know about.
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Anonymous
Dec 17, 2012, 11:12:46 AM12/17/12
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Danny D. wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:04:44 +0000, Steve Crook wrote:
>
>> You need to format the recipient correctly
>> To: mail2news-20121216-n...@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Thanks for clarifying.
>
> I'll try that. Your instructions are much clearer than those on
> the mixmin site, which imply multiple "TO" addresses plus
> additional headers (which can't be done using gmail).
>
> From what you wrote, I gather I only need the date and the
> nntp newsgroup for the "TO" line.
>
> The "SUBJECT" line would then be the nntp subject line.
>
> And, I gather that my email address & name would be the nntp author.
>
> I'll test that out separately.
>
>> there isn't a way to thread replies
Sure there is, as this one illustrates. :) In Thunderbird properly
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:04:44 +0000, Steve Crook wrote:
>
>> You need to format the recipient correctly
>> To: mail2news-20121216-n...@m2n.mixmin.net
>
> Thanks for clarifying.
>
> I'll try that. Your instructions are much clearer than those on
> the mixmin site, which imply multiple "TO" addresses plus
> additional headers (which can't be done using gmail).
>
> From what you wrote, I gather I only need the date and the
> nntp newsgroup for the "TO" line.
>
> The "SUBJECT" line would then be the nntp subject line.
>
> And, I gather that my email address & name would be the nntp author.
>
> I'll test that out separately.
>
>> there isn't a way to thread replies
configured for use with stunnel or stunnel/tor or tor alone, you can
keep the thread. Just open the message and click "Follow up", then
change the "Newsgroup" header to a "To" header and enter the delivery
parameters as you would normally with this type of message format:
To:
mail2news-20121217-alt.privacy.anon-server=alt.comp.freeware=news.softw...@m2n.mixmin.net
If you don't use Tor, the admin of the mail server would have access to
your IP, even though it would still be encrypted with stunnel up to the
point of departure from his server.
Tony Palermo
Dec 17, 2012, 12:11:49 PM12/17/12
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Anonymous wrote:
> If you don't use Tor, the admin of the mail server would have
> access to your IP
I have the tor browser bundle, but that's just Firefox.
> If you don't use Tor, the admin of the mail server would have
> access to your IP
Is there a way to use Thunderbird with Tor on Linux?
Or do you use a pre-configured Thunderbird Tor Bundle?
Tony Palermo
Dec 17, 2012, 1:31:33 PM12/17/12
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How does this final summary look for the top five USENET servers
which are purposefully public text-only general use nntp servers:
1. nntp.aioe.org 119 563 443
a. Site: http://www.aioe.org/
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: 25 posts per day limit.
2. news.eternal-september.org 119
a. Site: http://www.eternal-september.org/
b. Email registration required (http://eternal-september.org/
RegisterNewsAccount.php)
c. obfuscates IP (most of the time)
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: other?
3. reader.albasani.net 119
a. Site: http://albasani.net/index.html.en
b. email registration required (send request to ne...@albasani.net)
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: other?
4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
d. allows multiple nyms
e. Note: Requires stunnel SSL tunnel to work with most nntp clients.
5. dotsrc.org 119
a. Site: http://dotsrc.org/usenet/
b. email registration required (send request to news-...@sunsite.dk)
c. does NOT obfuscate nntp posting host IP address!
d. multiple nyms?
e. Note: They don't seem to be answering their registration email.
Any other general purpose purposely public text-only nntp news servers?
which are purposefully public text-only general use nntp servers:
1. nntp.aioe.org 119 563 443
a. Site: http://www.aioe.org/
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: 25 posts per day limit.
2. news.eternal-september.org 119
a. Site: http://www.eternal-september.org/
b. Email registration required (http://eternal-september.org/
RegisterNewsAccount.php)
c. obfuscates IP (most of the time)
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: other?
3. reader.albasani.net 119
a. Site: http://albasani.net/index.html.en
b. email registration required (send request to ne...@albasani.net)
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: other?
4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
d. allows multiple nyms
e. Note: Requires stunnel SSL tunnel to work with most nntp clients.
5. dotsrc.org 119
a. Site: http://dotsrc.org/usenet/
b. email registration required (send request to news-...@sunsite.dk)
c. does NOT obfuscate nntp posting host IP address!
d. multiple nyms?
e. Note: They don't seem to be answering their registration email.
Any other general purpose purposely public text-only nntp news servers?
Tony Palermo
Dec 17, 2012, 3:19:40 PM12/17/12
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p-0'0-h the cat wrote:
>>2. news.eternal-september.org 119
> I was canned eventually for using multiple nyms. Like hundreds...
>>3. reader.albasani.net 119
> Doubt it,
> I keep this one squeaky clean, as I use it for my daily roundup.
> You can get away with a few nym changes with all providers.
> you could try tioat.net
Unfortunately tioat.net is currently offline.
Their web site says "Please try again later."
Here's the updated list with your information added.
1. nntp.aioe.org 119 563 443
a. Site: http://www.aioe.org/
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms allowed
e. Note: 25 posts per day limit.
2. news.eternal-september.org 119
a. Site: http://www.eternal-september.org/
b. Email registration required (http://eternal-september.org/
RegisterNewsAccount.php)
c. obfuscates IP (most of the time)
e. Note: other?
3. reader.albasani.net 119
a. Site: http://albasani.net/index.html.en
b. email registration required (send request to ne...@albasani.net)
c. obfuscates IP
d. multiple nyms possible but frowned upon
3. reader.albasani.net 119
a. Site: http://albasani.net/index.html.en
b. email registration required (send request to ne...@albasani.net)
c. obfuscates IP
e. Note: other?
4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
d. multiple nyms possible but frowned upon
4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
b. no registration needed
c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
Steve Crook
Dec 18, 2012, 9:51:15 AM12/18/12
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:19:40 +0000 (UTC), Tony Palermo wrote in
Message-Id: <kanuos$b18$2...@dont-email.me>:
> 4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
> a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
> b. no registration needed
> c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
> d. multiple nyms possible but frowned upon
I have no problem with multiple Nyms. I only frown on it if they're
used in a manner that, in my opinion, is to the detriment of the group
they're used in. i.e. Abusively.
--
What shall we use
To fill the empty spaces
Where we used to talk?
Message-Id: <kanuos$b18$2...@dont-email.me>:
> 4. news.mixmin.net 563 SSL/TLS
> a. Site: http://www.banana.mixmin.net/m2n.html
> b. no registration needed
> c. obfuscates nntp posting host IP address
> d. multiple nyms possible but frowned upon
used in a manner that, in my opinion, is to the detriment of the group
they're used in. i.e. Abusively.
--
What shall we use
To fill the empty spaces
Where we used to talk?
Tony Palermo
Dec 18, 2012, 12:05:18 PM12/18/12
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Steve Crook wrote:
> I have no problem with multiple Nyms. I only frown on it if they're
> used in a manner that, in my opinion, is to the detriment of the group
> they're used in. i.e. Abusively.
My purpose is privacy since a lot of information is provided in the
> I have no problem with multiple Nyms. I only frown on it if they're
> used in a manner that, in my opinion, is to the detriment of the group
> they're used in. i.e. Abusively.
typical technical post.
After a few hundred posts, too much information can be gleaned
by the nutters, so, I switch nyms, but never during a thread.
I know of others who use one nym per usenet newsgroup for similar results.
In the olden days, we posted (tin, rn, etc.) with our email address in
the clear, and our place of work, etc.
Nowadays, the nuts out there overwhelm the sensible. Just look at this
thread for example. It's amazing that someone (probably a fifteen year
old kid with Aspergers) has the time to post the junk they did just
to ruin this thread's usefulness.
I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post nonsensical
garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
YMMV.
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Shmuel Metz
Dec 18, 2012, 10:07:17 PM12/18/12
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In <kaq7oe$mvf$1...@dont-email.me>, on 12/18/2012
allow frequent changes of nym; it's easier to block an entire provider
than to keep updating my filters.
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at 05:05 PM, Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> said:
>I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
>there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
>nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
>I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
>there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
>nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
allow frequent changes of nym; it's easier to block an entire provider
than to keep updating my filters.
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Doug Freyburger
Dec 20, 2012, 2:40:57 PM12/20/12
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> said:
>
>>I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
>>there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
>>nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
I've been posting since the days when an open email address was the nly
> Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> said:
>
>>I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
>>there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
>>nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
choice. I've never stopped. Some day it might cause me problems. So
far, so good.
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym; it's easier to block an entire provider
> than to keep updating my filters.
One of the reasons people change handles is to escape kill files. I
notice this when it happens. Another is to forge or frog other handles.
I notice this as well. Folks who change nyms for other reasons, I tend
to not notice. If I lose posts from such a poerson by blocking a list
of anonymizing servers, oh well.
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Tony Palermo
Dec 21, 2012, 12:26:46 PM12/21/12
to
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym
Good point!
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym
Tony Palermo
Dec 21, 2012, 12:26:26 PM12/21/12
to
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym
Good point!
> allow frequent changes of nym
Tony Palermo
Dec 21, 2012, 12:25:46 PM12/21/12
to
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym
Good point!
> allow frequent changes of nym
Tony Palermo
Dec 21, 2012, 12:26:16 PM12/21/12
to
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym
Good point!
> allow frequent changes of nym
Tony Palermo
Dec 21, 2012, 12:51:07 PM12/21/12
to
Tony Palermo wrote:
> Good point!
Ouch! I'm sorry. My Eternal September hung and hung and hung.
I hit the buttons, and I apparently replied numerous times.
I apologize!
Mea culpa.
> Good point!
Ouch! I'm sorry. My Eternal September hung and hung and hung.
I hit the buttons, and I apparently replied numerous times.
I apologize!
Mea culpa.
Doug Freyburger
Dec 21, 2012, 12:59:13 PM12/21/12
to
Sqwertz wrote:
>
> # Anonymous Remailers and other Evil hosts
> -1 message-id googlegroups
> -1 message-id geo-discussion-forum
> !delete message-id ax.lt
Mine are extensive
!kill Xpost %>3
Plus more restrictions in certain high noise groups.
!ignore Xref "alt.usenet.kooks"
Plus a long list of other stalker and troll groups.
!kill From "anon"
!kill From "remailer"
!kill From "alias"
!kill From "crypto"
!kill Message-id "anonymous"
!kill Message-id "dizum"
!kill Message-id "firenze"
!kill Message-id "gilgamesh"
!kill Message-id "paranoici"
!kill Message-id "remailer"
!kill Message-id "tatoo"
!kill Message-id "liberty"
!kill Message-id "mail.cypher"
!kill Message-id "mixmaster"
Current anonymizers that I know of
!ignore Subject "Baillie"
!ignore From "banter"
!ignore From ""Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>"
A short list of abusive topics then a long list of abusive posters
!kill From "bo...@collective.com"
A short list of provisional abusive posters. Every so often I clear
out this list. If someone has continued to post I switch them to ignore
status and they stay in my list.
[news.groups]
!ignore Xpost %>1
High noise group so ignore every cross post.
[rec.food.cooking]
!ignore From ""Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>"
High noise posters in high traffic groups.
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
>> If I lose posts from such a poerson by blocking a list
>> of anonymizing servers, oh well.
>
> From my Dialog scorefile:
>
>> If I lose posts from such a poerson by blocking a list
>> of anonymizing servers, oh well.
>
>
> # Anonymous Remailers and other Evil hosts
> -1 message-id googlegroups
> -1 message-id geo-discussion-forum
> !delete message-id ax.lt
Mine are extensive
!kill Xpost %>3
Plus more restrictions in certain high noise groups.
!ignore Xref "alt.usenet.kooks"
Plus a long list of other stalker and troll groups.
!kill From "anon"
!kill From "remailer"
!kill From "alias"
!kill From "crypto"
!kill Message-id "anonymous"
!kill Message-id "dizum"
!kill Message-id "firenze"
!kill Message-id "gilgamesh"
!kill Message-id "paranoici"
!kill Message-id "remailer"
!kill Message-id "tatoo"
!kill Message-id "liberty"
!kill Message-id "mail.cypher"
!kill Message-id "mixmaster"
Current anonymizers that I know of
!ignore Subject "Baillie"
!ignore From "banter"
!ignore From ""Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>"
A short list of abusive topics then a long list of abusive posters
!kill From "bo...@collective.com"
A short list of provisional abusive posters. Every so often I clear
out this list. If someone has continued to post I switch them to ignore
status and they stay in my list.
[news.groups]
!ignore Xpost %>1
High noise group so ignore every cross post.
[rec.food.cooking]
!ignore From ""Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>"
High noise posters in high traffic groups.
Steve Crook
Dec 21, 2012, 1:21:06 PM12/21/12
to
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger wrote in
Message-Id: <kb281h$lir$1...@dont-email.me>:
> !kill From "anon"
> !kill From "remailer"
> !kill From "alias"
> !kill From "crypto"
> !kill Message-id "anonymous"
> !kill Message-id "dizum"
> !kill Message-id "firenze"
> !kill Message-id "gilgamesh"
> !kill Message-id "paranoici"
> !kill Message-id "remailer"
> !kill Message-id "tatoo"
> !kill Message-id "liberty"
> !kill Message-id "mail.cypher"
> !kill Message-id "mixmaster"
>
> Current anonymizers that I know of
Hi Doug,
For the remailer (mixmaster) network, here's a list of current addresses
used by exit-nodes:-
"Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixm...@remailer.privacy.at>
Anonymous <nor...@breaka.net>
Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
Anonymous <anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Anonymous <anon...@foto.ro1.torservers.net>
Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201212.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org>
Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org>
Message-Id: <kb281h$lir$1...@dont-email.me>:
> !kill From "anon"
> !kill From "remailer"
> !kill From "alias"
> !kill From "crypto"
> !kill Message-id "anonymous"
> !kill Message-id "dizum"
> !kill Message-id "firenze"
> !kill Message-id "gilgamesh"
> !kill Message-id "paranoici"
> !kill Message-id "remailer"
> !kill Message-id "tatoo"
> !kill Message-id "liberty"
> !kill Message-id "mail.cypher"
> !kill Message-id "mixmaster"
>
> Current anonymizers that I know of
For the remailer (mixmaster) network, here's a list of current addresses
used by exit-nodes:-
"Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixm...@remailer.privacy.at>
Anonymous <nor...@breaka.net>
Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
Anonymous <anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
Anonymous <anon...@foto.ro1.torservers.net>
Fritz Wuehler <fr...@spamexpire-201212.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Anonymous <anon...@hoi-polloi.org>
Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org>
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Anonymous
Dec 22, 2012, 2:46:38 AM12/22/12
to mail...@m2n.mixmin.net
In article <50d12f65$9$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid>
wrote:
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid>
wrote:
>
> In <kaq7oe$mvf$1...@dont-email.me>, on 12/18/2012
> at 05:05 PM, Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> said:
>
> >I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
> >there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
> >nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
>
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym; it's easier to block an entire provider
> than to keep updating my filters.
Isn't that sort of like pounding sand up your own ass?
> In <kaq7oe$mvf$1...@dont-email.me>, on 12/18/2012
> at 05:05 PM, Tony Palermo <to...@yourbasicyahooemail.com> said:
>
> >I'm bewildered by the sheer number of attention-mongering nuts out
> >there, apparently with a lot of time on their hands to post
> >nonsensical garbage - and they are the reason why I change nyms.
>
> That's also the reason that I'm tempted to filter news providers that
> allow frequent changes of nym; it's easier to block an entire provider
> than to keep updating my filters.
Shmuel Metz
Dec 23, 2012, 4:08:00 AM12/23/12
to
In <4875a928993b8266...@mail.hoi-polloi.org>, on
12/22/2012
Not even close. You ask as though your articles had any value.
12/22/2012
William Don**ly
Dec 24, 2012, 6:02:28 PM12/24/12
to
Tony Palermo wrote:
> I'm surprised that I found the best three out of the thousands listed in
> googling. I guess I was just lucky.
>
> Either that, or there are more out there that nobody seems to know
> about.
There are probably dozens more but most people here wouldn't know them.
> I'm surprised that I found the best three out of the thousands listed in
> googling. I guess I was just lucky.
>
> Either that, or there are more out there that nobody seems to know
> about.
So you're on your own to find them.
I just googled "free public nntp news server" and thousands came up.
Start here.
http://www.livinginternet.com/u/ua_pub.htm
What Id like is a good search engine to find existing articles.
Tony Palermo
Dec 24, 2012, 6:23:48 PM12/24/12
to
William Don**ly wrote:
> I just googled "free public nntp news server" and thousands came up.
Is there a way to these free newsservers from the Linux command line?
> I just googled "free public nntp news server" and thousands came up.
Something like:
bash$ telnet reputed.free.news.server 119
> read group list
> post to alt.test
William Don**ly
Dec 24, 2012, 6:46:50 PM12/24/12
to
Tony Palermo wrote:
> Is there a way to these free newsservers from the Linux command line?
$ telnet news.aioe.org 119 (wait for response)
> Is there a way to these free newsservers from the Linux command line?
> POST (command to post)
> From: u...@domain.com (1st line)
> Newsgroups: misc.test (2nd line)
> Subject: Test (3rd line)
> Message-ID: <what...@wherever.com> (4th line)
> (fifth line)
> This is a test. (sixth line)
> . (command to end post)
> GROUP misc.test (see if the article posted)
> ARTICLE 23485 (see the article you posted)
> quit (quit out of the session)
For example:
$ telnet news.aioe.org 119
Trying 94.75.214.39...
Connected to news.aioe.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 news.aioe.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.2 ready (posting ok)
> POST
340 Ok, recommended message-ID <abc...@foo.bar.org>
> From: m...@somewhere.com
> Newsgroups: misc.test
> Subject: Test
> Message-ID: <abcde...@somewhere.com>
>
> Testing.
> .
240 Article received <abcde...@somewhere.com>
> GROUP misc.test
211 2451 45890 331443 alt.test
> ARTICLE 331443
220 221686 <12345...@news.example.com> article
Path: aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: m...@somewhere.com
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: Test
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:15:13 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Lines: 1
Message-ID: <12345...@news.example.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: B2AGq8Kh47Guo9T2pUxOxG.user.speranza.aioe.org
X-Complaints-To: ab...@aioe.org
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2
Xref: aioe.org misc.test:331443
Testing.
.
quit
205 Bye!
Connection closed by foreign host.
Greegor
Dec 30, 2012, 4:44:49 PM12/30/12
to
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/browse_frm/thread/084e0f9581284f13
> In the olden days, we posted (tin, rn, etc.) with our email address in
> the clear, and our place of work, etc.
>
> Nowadays, the nuts out there overwhelm the sensible. Just look at this
> thread for example. It's amazing that someone (probably a fifteen year
> old kid with Aspergers)
Possible but on usenet it's more likely a 50 or 60
year old whose "arrested development" set in when
they were 14. LOTS of Aspies in that age range
were not diagnosed as kids like they are today.
Usenet posters under 30 are fairly rare.
Average age of usenet posters is about 50.
Why would you be so bewildered about the number
of disability cases and their amount of time to post?
> In the olden days, we posted (tin, rn, etc.) with our email address in
> the clear, and our place of work, etc.
>
> Nowadays, the nuts out there overwhelm the sensible. Just look at this
> thread for example. It's amazing that someone (probably a fifteen year
> old kid with Aspergers)
year old whose "arrested development" set in when
they were 14. LOTS of Aspies in that age range
were not diagnosed as kids like they are today.
Usenet posters under 30 are fairly rare.
Average age of usenet posters is about 50.
Why would you be so bewildered about the number
of disability cases and their amount of time to post?
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