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Julien ÉLIE
May 31, 2023, 5:24:02 PM5/31/23
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Hi all,
Following a discussion with Adam, I think it's better to open a new thread.
Lots of valuable archaeology information have been sent in this
newsgroup for years but unfortunately they weren't gathered for quick
reference somewhere.
There are also old notes from Russ and tale here:
https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/CONFIG/HIERARCHY-NOTES
I'm wondering the best way to revive them, and integrate Adam's and
other people's valuable information about hierarchies.
I could easily parse HIERARCHY-NOTES and make the related information
available in the web pages of a hierarchy in usenet.trigofacile.com, as
a new item "History notes" for instance, just after the "Comments" from
control.ctl. The problem however is that all the hierarchies listed in
HIERARCHY-NOTES are not referenced in ftp.isc.org files. Should I then
just add them in "Defunct hierarchies" with the "History notes" item?
Another possibility would be to add a "Hierarchy notes" web page with
the contents of HIERARCHY-NOTES (plus maybe also the Comments from
control.ctl to make the notes more complete).
Or implement both :)
They indeed both seem useful, with different use cases (looking at one
hierarchy or looking at the history of all of them).
I could then integrate in the notes every details Adam or others found
out these late years. (Unless they are more appropriate in control.ctl,
when speaking about rules for the processing of control articles.)
Any other thoughts welcome about how to best achieve that and revive the
hierarchy notes.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« On ne va jamais si loin que lorsque l'on ne sait pas où l'on va. »
Following a discussion with Adam, I think it's better to open a new thread.
Lots of valuable archaeology information have been sent in this
newsgroup for years but unfortunately they weren't gathered for quick
reference somewhere.
There are also old notes from Russ and tale here:
https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/CONFIG/HIERARCHY-NOTES
I'm wondering the best way to revive them, and integrate Adam's and
other people's valuable information about hierarchies.
I could easily parse HIERARCHY-NOTES and make the related information
available in the web pages of a hierarchy in usenet.trigofacile.com, as
a new item "History notes" for instance, just after the "Comments" from
control.ctl. The problem however is that all the hierarchies listed in
HIERARCHY-NOTES are not referenced in ftp.isc.org files. Should I then
just add them in "Defunct hierarchies" with the "History notes" item?
Another possibility would be to add a "Hierarchy notes" web page with
the contents of HIERARCHY-NOTES (plus maybe also the Comments from
control.ctl to make the notes more complete).
Or implement both :)
They indeed both seem useful, with different use cases (looking at one
hierarchy or looking at the history of all of them).
I could then integrate in the notes every details Adam or others found
out these late years. (Unless they are more appropriate in control.ctl,
when speaking about rules for the processing of control articles.)
Any other thoughts welcome about how to best achieve that and revive the
hierarchy notes.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« On ne va jamais si loin que lorsque l'on ne sait pas où l'on va. »
Ted Heise
May 31, 2023, 5:53:49 PM5/31/23
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long time Usenet consumer (and occasional contributor) I truly
appreciate the efforts to maintain/improve the system.
--
Ted Heise <the...@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA
Julien ÉLIE
Jun 1, 2023, 2:38:31 AM6/1/23
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Hi Ted,
> I have nothing of substance to offer, other than to say that as a
> long time Usenet consumer (and occasional contributor) I truly
> appreciate the efforts to maintain/improve the system.
Thanks for your message. Such feedback is naturally greatly appreciated :)
> I have nothing of substance to offer, other than to say that as a
> long time Usenet consumer (and occasional contributor) I truly
> appreciate the efforts to maintain/improve the system.
Julien ÉLIE
Jun 14, 2023, 5:43:41 PM6/14/23
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Hi all,
> Lots of valuable archaeology information have been sent in this
> newsgroup for years but unfortunately they weren't gathered for quick
> reference somewhere.
>
> There are also old notes from Russ and tale here:
> https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/CONFIG/HIERARCHY-NOTES
Good news, I have finally taken the time to integrate that great work
The notes are also added in the web page of hierarchies listed in
control.ctl or with newsgroups in the ftp.isc.org newsgroups file.
(These are the ones with an active hyperlink in the above URL.)
I've rewritten the notes at the third person (using "tale" instead of
"I") for better clarity out of context.
The resulting text file is here:
https://github.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/blob/main/website/data/hierarchy-notes.txt
Naturally, if anyone has suggestions of additions now or anytime in the
future, just drop a note here and I'll happily update the notes.
I'll integrate soon the latest information provided by Adam and Thomas
about mod.* and de.alt.* so as to keep a trace.
And the information I have for microsoft.*, fr.* and france.* too.
Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
"it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
manawatu.*
For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact ne...@manawatu.gen.nz
for more information. According to Alan somebody in mail to me on 5 Feb
1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see any traffic on it"
--
Julien ÉLIE
« 21.1.1 How to convert mSQL tools for MySQL?
1. Run the shell script msql2mysql on the source. This requires the
replace program, which is distributed with MySQL.
2. Compile.
3. Fix all compiler errors. » (MySQL online manual)
> Lots of valuable archaeology information have been sent in this
> newsgroup for years but unfortunately they weren't gathered for quick
> reference somewhere.
>
> There are also old notes from Russ and tale here:
> https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/CONFIG/HIERARCHY-NOTES
from Russ and tale here:
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
The notes are also added in the web page of hierarchies listed in
control.ctl or with newsgroups in the ftp.isc.org newsgroups file.
(These are the ones with an active hyperlink in the above URL.)
I've rewritten the notes at the third person (using "tale" instead of
"I") for better clarity out of context.
The resulting text file is here:
https://github.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/blob/main/website/data/hierarchy-notes.txt
Naturally, if anyone has suggestions of additions now or anytime in the
future, just drop a note here and I'll happily update the notes.
I'll integrate soon the latest information provided by Adam and Thomas
about mod.* and de.alt.* so as to keep a trace.
And the information I have for microsoft.*, fr.* and france.* too.
Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
"it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
manawatu.*
For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact ne...@manawatu.gen.nz
for more information. According to Alan somebody in mail to me on 5 Feb
1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see any traffic on it"
--
Julien ÉLIE
« 21.1.1 How to convert mSQL tools for MySQL?
1. Run the shell script msql2mysql on the source. This requires the
replace program, which is distributed with MySQL.
2. Compile.
3. Fix all compiler errors. » (MySQL online manual)
Russ Allbery
Jun 14, 2023, 5:49:44 PM6/14/23
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Julien ÉLIE <iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> writes:
> Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
> "it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
> defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
> is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
> FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
I believe that was the predecessor of rone's unified control.ctl file,
> Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
> "it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
> defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
> is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
> FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
which in turn was the predecessor of the current control-archive
control.ctl file.
> Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
> somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
> Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
> manawatu.*
> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
> any traffic on it"
guess is that means someone mailed him who used only "Alan" with no last
name in their From header.
--
Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
Thomas Hochstein
Jun 15, 2023, 2:30:03 AM6/15/23
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Julien ÉLIE schrieb:
> Good news, I have finally taken the time to integrate that great work
> from Russ and tale here:
> http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
Thank you very much for your work!
> Naturally, if anyone has suggestions of additions now or anytime in the
> future, just drop a note here and I'll happily update the notes.
Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
<https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
(That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
-thh
> Good news, I have finally taken the time to integrate that great work
> from Russ and tale here:
> http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
> Naturally, if anyone has suggestions of additions now or anytime in the
> future, just drop a note here and I'll happily update the notes.
List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
<https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
(That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
-thh
Julien ÉLIE
Jun 15, 2023, 6:08:14 AM6/15/23
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Hi Russ,
>> Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
>> "it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
>> defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
>> is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
>> FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
>
> I believe that was the predecessor of rone's unified control.ctl file,
> which in turn was the predecessor of the current control-archive
> control.ctl file.
OK, I can then remove that suggestion to produce a new comprehensive
guide to Usenet hierarchies as this FAQ is fairly outdated and you
already did a clean up when working on the new control.ctl file based on
rone's work in early 2000s.
>> Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
>> somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
>> Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
>
>> manawatu.*
>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>> any traffic on it"
>
> I don't know for sure, but knowing the way that tale phrased things, my
> guess is that means someone mailed him who used only "Alan" with no last
> name in their From header.
Thanks for the clarification. I've updated the phrasing.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« La science consiste à passer d'un étonnement à l'autre. » (Aristote)
>> Incidentally, I have a question about a sentence from the initial file:
>> "it would be good to extract the information in here about private and
>> defunct hierarchies and combine it with the hierarchies FAQ". Which FAQ
>> is it? I don't think it is the Hierarchy Administration FAQ. Is this
>> FAQ still posted somewhere in a newsgroup, or available at a URL?
>
> I believe that was the predecessor of rone's unified control.ctl file,
> which in turn was the predecessor of the current control-archive
> control.ctl file.
guide to Usenet hierarchies as this FAQ is fairly outdated and you
already did a clean up when working on the new control.ctl file based on
rone's work in early 2000s.
>> Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
>> somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
>> Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
>
>> manawatu.*
>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>> any traffic on it"
>
> I don't know for sure, but knowing the way that tale phrased things, my
> guess is that means someone mailed him who used only "Alan" with no last
> name in their From header.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« La science consiste à passer d'un étonnement à l'autre. » (Aristote)
Julien ÉLIE
Jun 15, 2023, 6:08:21 AM6/15/23
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Hi Thomas,
> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
I propose to merge that Master List into the descriptions of hierarchies
currently extracted only from control.ctl:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
And I can put a link to the newly merged list at the beginning of the
miscellaneous hierarchy notes web page.
> (That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
:)
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ma devise : une bonne sieste et au lit. » (Jean-Jacques Peroni)
> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
currently extracted only from control.ctl:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
And I can put a link to the newly merged list at the beginning of the
miscellaneous hierarchy notes web page.
> (That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ma devise : une bonne sieste et au lit. » (Jean-Jacques Peroni)
Thomas Hochstein
Jun 17, 2023, 1:30:03 PM6/17/23
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Julien ÉLIE wrote:
>> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
>> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
>
> I propose to merge that Master List into the descriptions of hierarchies
> currently extracted only from control.ctl:
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
That seems to be a good idea!
>> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
>> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
>
> I propose to merge that Master List into the descriptions of hierarchies
> currently extracted only from control.ctl:
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
Thanks,
-thh
Kerr Avon
Jun 23, 2023, 7:46:52 AM6/23/23
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Russ Allbery <ea...@eyrie.org> wrote:
>
>> Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
>> somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
>> Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
>
>> manawatu.*
>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>> any traffic on it"
>
> I don't know for sure, but knowing the way that tale phrased things, my
> guess is that means someone mailed him who used only "Alan" with no last
> name in their From header.
>
This would have been Alan Brown who was involved in Manawatu Internet
>
>> Another question: I do not understand the wording "According to Alan
>> somebody in mail to me". Has anyone a clue of the intended meaning?
>> Would it be "According to Alan, somebody who emailed me"?
>
>> manawatu.*
>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>> any traffic on it"
>
> I don't know for sure, but knowing the way that tale phrased things, my
> guess is that means someone mailed him who used only "Alan" with no last
> name in their From header.
>
Services
manawatu.gen.nz was their UUCP hub address.
Golly I feel old ;-)
--
Agency News | news.bbs.nz
Julien ÉLIE
Jun 25, 2023, 3:46:08 AM6/25/23
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Hi Kerr Avon,
>>> manawatu.*
>>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>>> any traffic on it"
>
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ce qu'on est arrivé à faire avec le téléphone sans fil, va-t-on le
réussir un jour avec les haricots ? » (Philip Geluck)
>>> manawatu.*
>>> For the Manawatu district of New Zealand. Contact
>>> ne...@manawatu.gen.nz for more information. According to Alan somebody
>>> in mail to me on 5 Feb 1993, "... it's unlikely that you'll ever see
>>> any traffic on it"
>
> This would have been Alan Brown who was involved in Manawatu Internet
> Services
>
> manawatu.gen.nz was their UUCP hub address.
Thanks, I have updated the notes for manawatu.*.
> Services
>
> manawatu.gen.nz was their UUCP hub address.
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ce qu'on est arrivé à faire avec le téléphone sans fil, va-t-on le
réussir un jour avec les haricots ? » (Philip Geluck)
Julien ÉLIE
Dec 27, 2023, 3:10:25 PM12/27/23
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Hi Thomas,
> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
>
> (That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
I've at last done that. We can both cross that item off :-)
I hope the result looks fine to you.
There are 397 additional hierarchies in the above master list that are
not present in control.ctl.
The merged view of control.ctl and the master list is here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
I've added a link to that merged view at the beginning of:
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
7 descriptions would be worthwhile updating for the next release of
control.ctl. I've added a reminder there:
https://github.com/rra/control-archive/issues/5
Interestingly, I found out while doing the merge that 2 hierarchies
co-exist in the same namespace: Slovakian newsgroups, and regional
Saskatchewan (Canada) newsgroups.
Here is an old discussion about that:
https://groups.google.com/g/sk.net.news/c/fGKu_UVpd-s
Question, in case someone knows: abg.* and affrc.* are listed in the
master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
information.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Chuck Norris once ran cd .. in / and it worked. »
> Would it make sense to add the information from the - defunct - Master
> List of Newsgroup Hierarchies? An archived version is available at
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20160407174854/http://pfx.ca/mlnh/mlnhtables.html>.
>
> (That would allow me to cross that item off my ever-growing todo list. :))
I hope the result looks fine to you.
There are 397 additional hierarchies in the above master list that are
not present in control.ctl.
The merged view of control.ctl and the master list is here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Julien-Elie/usenet-hierarchies/main/nas/data/hierarchies/Description
I've added a link to that merged view at the beginning of:
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/notes-about-hierarchies.html
7 descriptions would be worthwhile updating for the next release of
control.ctl. I've added a reminder there:
https://github.com/rra/control-archive/issues/5
Interestingly, I found out while doing the merge that 2 hierarchies
co-exist in the same namespace: Slovakian newsgroups, and regional
Saskatchewan (Canada) newsgroups.
Here is an old discussion about that:
https://groups.google.com/g/sk.net.news/c/fGKu_UVpd-s
Question, in case someone knows: abg.* and affrc.* are listed in the
master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
information.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Chuck Norris once ran cd .. in / and it worked. »
Marcel Logen
Dec 27, 2023, 4:59:10 PM12/27/23
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Julien ÉLIE in news.admin.hierarchies:
[...]
>Question, in case someone knows: abg.* and affrc.* are listed in the
>master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
>I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
>information.
AFAIK, abg.* is the regional hierarchy (city hierarchy) for
Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
Marcel
--
─╮ ╭─╮ ╭───╮ ╭──────────╮ ╭──╮ ╭──────╮ ╭─╮..67..
│ │ ╰───╯ ╰─╮ ╰────────╮ ╰────────╮ │ │ ╰──╮ ╰────╯ │..67..
│ │ ╭─────╯ ╭──╮ │ ╭─────╯ │ │ ╭─╮ │ ..60..╰───╮
╰─────╯ ╰─────────╯ ╰────╯ ╰───────╯ ╰─╯ ╰──╯ ..64..╰─╮
[...]
>Question, in case someone knows: abg.* and affrc.* are listed in the
>master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
>I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
>information.
Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
Marcel
--
─╮ ╭─╮ ╭───╮ ╭──────────╮ ╭──╮ ╭──────╮ ╭─╮..67..
│ │ ╰───╯ ╰─╮ ╰────────╮ ╰────────╮ │ │ ╰──╮ ╰────╯ │..67..
│ │ ╭─────╯ ╭──╮ │ ╭─────╯ │ │ ╭─╮ │ ..60..╰───╮
╰─────╯ ╰─────────╯ ╰────╯ ╰───────╯ ╰─╯ ╰──╯ ..64..╰─╮
Julien ÉLIE
Dec 28, 2023, 2:51:18 AM12/28/23
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Hi Marcel, Christoph,
>> AFAIK, abg.* is the regional hierarchy (city hierarchy) for
>> Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
>
> Can confirm.
Thanks for it, I've updated the description.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ce qui est fait n'est plus à faire. »
>> AFAIK, abg.* is the regional hierarchy (city hierarchy) for
>> Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
>
Thanks for it, I've updated the description.
--
Julien ÉLIE
« Ce qui est fait n'est plus à faire. »
John Hall
Dec 28, 2023, 3:13:36 AM12/28/23
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In message <umi0bf$236qn$1...@news.trigofacile.com>, Julien ÉLIE
<iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> writes
<snip>
Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Research Council in Japan.
This web page:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/lib/newsgroups
lists the following newsgroups as being in the affrc hierarchy:
affrc.chat
affrc.meetings
affrc.misc
affrc.net
affrc.newsystems
affrc.sas
affrc.sys
affrc.test
affrc.trouble
affrc.wanted
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)
<iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> writes
<snip>
>Question, in case someone knows: abg.* and affrc.* are listed in the
>master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
>I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
>information.
Going a Google search, the only match I could find for affrc was for the
>master list, but without any information. Does it remind you anything?
>I've kept "?" for them but will update it as needed if someone has
>information.
Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Research Council in Japan.
This web page:
http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/lib/newsgroups
lists the following newsgroups as being in the affrc hierarchy:
affrc.chat
affrc.meetings
affrc.misc
affrc.net
affrc.newsystems
affrc.sas
affrc.sys
affrc.test
affrc.trouble
affrc.wanted
--
John Hall
"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people
from coughing."
Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83)
Thomas Hochstein
Dec 29, 2023, 6:15:04 AM12/29/23
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Marcel Logen wrote:
> AFAIK, abg.* is the regional hierarchy (city hierarchy) for
> Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
Yes, that's correct. See <https://de-regio.de/show.php?hierarchy=abg>.
> AFAIK, abg.* is the regional hierarchy (city hierarchy) for
> Augsburg, DE. But I'm not fully sure about that.
Marcel Logen
Dec 29, 2023, 7:16:55 AM12/29/23
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Thomas Hochstein in news.admin.hierarchies:
Thank you, Thomas.
BTW a correction:
| Beschreibung Ausgburg,Germany
^^ ^^
Marcel
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╭───╯ ╰──────╯ ╰──╯ ╰───╯ ╰────╯ ╰────╯ ╰───╯..67..
BTW a correction:
| Beschreibung Ausgburg,Germany
^^ ^^
Marcel
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╭───────╮ ╭───╮ ╭─╮ ╭────╮ ╭───────╮ ..67..
│ ╰──╮ ╰─╮ │ ╭──╮ ..37..│ ╰──╯ ╭─╯ │ ╭────╯ ╭─╮
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Thomas Hochstein
Dec 29, 2023, 8:45:03 AM12/29/23
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Marcel Logen wrote:
> BTW a correction:
>
> | Beschreibung Ausgburg,Germany
> ^^ ^^
Yeah, that does look a bit broken ... Fixed.
> BTW a correction:
>
> | Beschreibung Ausgburg,Germany
> ^^ ^^
Julien ÉLIE
Jan 7, 2024, 5:54:14 PMJan 7
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Hi Thomas,
> See <https://de-regio.de/show.php?hierarchy=abg>.
I did not know that web site. Very great work, and useful for an
overview of German-speaking hierarchies.
https://de-regio.de/show.php?hierarchy=bln&lang=en
You may want to update the date of the latest checkgroups for bln.* and
add information about its new PGP-managed status.
Incidentally, in the control.ctl file, there is:
## BDA (German groups?)
checkgroups:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
newgroup:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
rmgroup:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
bda.config Config fuer News der BDA.
bda.forum.bda Forum der BDA.
bda.forum.hfa Diskussionforum fuer die Heldenfussallee (Internet Soap
Opera)
bda.forum.jp Diskussion ueber Beitraege des Journalisten Pools.
bda.forum.zeit.feuilleton Debatte kultureller Themen aller Arten.
bda.forum.zeit.job Praktika und Job-Tips.
bda.forum.zeit.kolumnen Kolumnen aus der ZEIT.
bda.forum.zeit.thema Diskussionen ums woechentliche ZEIT-Thema.
bda.jp.misc Artikel des Journalisten Pools.
bda.news Neuigkeiten zur BDA.
bda.test Tests der BDA.
This hierarchy is not listed in your web site. Does it sound something
to you?
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Julien ÉLIE
« Inter pradendum sit saepe parumque bibendum. »
> See <https://de-regio.de/show.php?hierarchy=abg>.
I did not know that web site. Very great work, and useful for an
overview of German-speaking hierarchies.
https://de-regio.de/show.php?hierarchy=bln&lang=en
You may want to update the date of the latest checkgroups for bln.* and
add information about its new PGP-managed status.
Incidentally, in the control.ctl file, there is:
## BDA (German groups?)
checkgroups:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
newgroup:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
rmgroup:news@*netuse.de:bda.*:doit
bda.config Config fuer News der BDA.
bda.forum.bda Forum der BDA.
bda.forum.hfa Diskussionforum fuer die Heldenfussallee (Internet Soap
Opera)
bda.forum.jp Diskussion ueber Beitraege des Journalisten Pools.
bda.forum.zeit.feuilleton Debatte kultureller Themen aller Arten.
bda.forum.zeit.job Praktika und Job-Tips.
bda.forum.zeit.kolumnen Kolumnen aus der ZEIT.
bda.forum.zeit.thema Diskussionen ums woechentliche ZEIT-Thema.
bda.jp.misc Artikel des Journalisten Pools.
bda.news Neuigkeiten zur BDA.
bda.test Tests der BDA.
This hierarchy is not listed in your web site. Does it sound something
to you?
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Julien ÉLIE
« Inter pradendum sit saepe parumque bibendum. »
Julien ÉLIE
Jan 7, 2024, 5:54:57 PMJan 7
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Hi John,
> Doing a Google search, the only match I could find for affrc was for the
put a question mark at the end as we're not 100% sure.
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Julien ÉLIE
« Life is short… so eat dessert first! »
> Doing a Google search, the only match I could find for affrc was for the
> Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Research Council in Japan.
Thanks for your research. I've added that information for affrc.* and
put a question mark at the end as we're not 100% sure.
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Julien ÉLIE
« Life is short… so eat dessert first! »
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