Custom Views from PC to Android

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Gary Petro

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Jul 26, 2017, 2:00:45 PM7/26/17
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I just purchased the Cloud Sync service so I can more easily sync up my devices.

I have MLO 2.10 installed on my tablet and 4.4.4 on my desktop.

I have several custom views on my desktop and just did my first sync and I cannot see any of those views on my Android device.
Are they not supposed to Sync over?

Also, I am disappointed that the colors do not transfer over.

Am I missing something in my set-up?

Thanks.
Gary

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Jul 27, 2017, 7:34:58 AM7/27/17
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Hi Gary,

  Sadly, custom views do not sync via cloudsync, cloudsync only sync your tasks. 

  To transfer your custom view from PC to Android, you need to export your view on the PC, then transfer the exported file to Android Device and import into MLO app from there.

  Android MLO also do not sync custom formatting  from PC MLO.

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Gary Petro

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Jul 27, 2017, 11:09:49 AM7/27/17
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So you are saying that the Android version supports custom views but they are not synchronized?
I would then say that the information on the website is misleading.
My expectation would be that if it supports custom views they they should be able to sync up.

I don't understand what you mean by: "To transfer your custom view from PC to Android, you need to export your view on the PC, then transfer the exported file to Android Device and import into MLO app from there."
Once I transfer it, will it stay there and get updated when the sync happens or do I need to transfer it each time?

Thanks.
Gary

MOK | MATSURU

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Jul 27, 2017, 11:43:13 AM7/27/17
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"I don't understand what you mean by: "To transfer your custom view from PC to Android, you need to export your view on the PC, then transfer the exported file to Android Device and import into MLO app from there.""
  It means If you have reconfigured a custom view on MLO windows, u need to EXPORT the view which will generate a file on your windows computer. Then, u need to transfer that file to your Android device ( I myself is using Dropbox to achieve this). Then, in MLO Android, in the view configuration, there is an option to IMPORT the file into MLO Android App.
   You can do this the other way round. Meaning custom view on MLO Android, export, then transfer exported file to Windows computer, Import the file to MLO Windows.

"Once I transfer it, will it stay there and get updated when the sync happens or do I need to transfer it each time?"
  You have to do it each time. Good thing is, if you have multiple custom views like I do, you can just select multiple of them and export as 1 file which u can then import into MLO android in 1 go. No need to export the views 1 by 1.

"My expectation would be that if it supports custom views they they should be able to sync up."
  This is has been a high requested feature from the beta users as well. 
  Maybe the MLO development team will consider it. I do not know as i am a user same as yourself.


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Dwight

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Jul 27, 2017, 11:59:52 AM7/27/17
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Hi, Gary. First, I want to be clear that on this forum you are talking
with the user community. We dont design MLO, we don't create the
website. Many of us are very good at understanding how to use it and
enjoy people who need help.

If you think that the website contains erroneous information you should
tell the developer/vendor, at sup...@mylifeorganized.net

If you think that the functionality needs to be enhanced, you will find
on this forum a community of people who will review your suggestion,
tell you if you have missed or misunderstood something that addresses
your issue, and tell you if they support or would use your suggested
enhancement. They will help you revise your suggestion to make it more
compelling. But when the idea is matured it will have to go to the
developer as the users cannot change the code.

For your issue, Mok is correct. To discuss the implications I need to
start by drawing a clear distinction between the content of a view and
the definition of a view. Suppose you create, for example, a view
showing active tasks that are starred and have the context @work.
Suppose you create it on Windows and then copy it to your Android phone,
and that you are running cloud synch (of your tasks) between the two
platforms. Cloud synch will ensure that you have the same set of tasks
on both platforms, so the list of starred @work tasks will be the same.

Suppose you add a new starred @work task on Windows. The next synch
(which should be in a very short time) will add the same task to your
phone. The view definition has not changed on either platform, so when
you next look at this custom view on your phone it will have the same
content as you have on Windows, including the new task.

Now, let's suppose that you decide you want to see starred @work tasks
even if they are not active (eg completed, or future start date.) You go
on Windows and change the view definition so it draws from ALL tasks
rather than ACTIVE tasks. Now when you look on Windows you see the
completed and future tasks and not just the active ones. When you next
go back to your phone, you do not see the completed and future tasks
because you are still working with the old view definition, the new one
is only on Windows.

There are two things you could do next: You could go into your Windows
MLO, right-click on the view name, select "export views" and save it to
a *.mfv file, move the file to your phone (see below), then go into MLO
on your phone, click the hamburger icon at the top left to bring up the
view list, click the Edit link at the bottom left, click the three-dot
icon at the top right and select "import views" then point it to the
*.mfv file on your phone. It will import the revised view definition.
Now when you look at your custom view on the phone it will show you the
completed and future tasks. changes to the tasks made on either platform
will be synched to both and your custom view will not need any attention
until/unless you decide to chang it again.

I said that there were two solutions. Here is the other one: just go
into the view list on the phone, go to the edit list, select the view in
question and change the action filter from Active to All, then save it.
Again, phone and windows will show the same content, changes to the
tasks on either will be synched to both, and the view definitions will
not need any more attention unless you decide to make another change.

I like the second options for simple changes (like this one) and the
export/move/import for complex, difficult views. I said I would help a
little with the part about moving the file. The simplest way,
recommended by the developer, is to attach the file to an email and mail
it to an email address that you can read from your phone, then go to the
phone, open the mail, and save the file. Another way is to use a file
manager (I use X-Plore.) From the phone, scan for servers on your lan.
Find your Windows machine, open it, find the file, and copy it to your
phone. Third option is to use cloud storage (like dropbox of google
drive) thats accessible from both platforms.

This approach is definitely more complex than what would happen if view
definitions were synched along with the task changes. Some of us have
suggested that as an enhancement in the past but so far, it has not
happened. Frankly, it does not seem as important after you have used MLO
for a while because after a while, you work out a set of views that
exactly matches how you work, and after that you are not really changing
the view definitions all that often.
-Dwight

ps sorry for the very long mail but I wanted to be sure that I did not
oversimplify anything, this can get complex.

-Dwight
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Gary Petro

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Jul 28, 2017, 3:30:21 AM7/28/17
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Thanks for the info and I apologize for not realizing that I wasn't talking with the vendor (so many tend to use these forums as such it sometimes gets confusing).

I'll absorb what you have said and get my head around it.

Thanks again.
Gary
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