Re: {OT} Re: pot stir
Brian Heinrich
> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
<snip />
>> hmmm. http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org//members.html
>
> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you told
> this poster you weren't a champion anymore:
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
<snip />
> Boy, Google Search is great! It's amazing what you can find!
Yes, it is . . .
> So, I guess you are caught in your own little lies, aren't you!
. . . especially when you manage to catch yourself out.
:-D
/b.
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> . . . especially when you manage to catch yourself out.
I don't understand what you mean by that
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Brian Heinrich
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> . . . especially when you manage to catch yourself out.
>
> I don't understand what you mean by that
Of course you do! :-P
Let me quote:
<quote cite="emphasis-added">
yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you told
*this poster* you weren't a champion anymore:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
</quote>
And so, after so fervently and insistently, uh, insisting that you knew
nothing of any Andy, Andreas, or gwtc, and that you, in your various toonish
guises, had only been around these groups since the end of November, you
post a link that clearly indicates that you are -- or, at least were, till
you killed 'im off in a boating accident in Georgia Strait last Thanksgiving
-- gwtc.
:-D
/b.
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
>> On 1/14/2007 12:57 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> NightStalker wrote:
>>>> In article <_JOdna_XyrdDHzfY...@mozilla.org>,
>>>> oi...@adelphia.net says...
>>>>
>>>>>> How's that for a pot-stir? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Shut up Garth!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL :) Nope - not Garth. He would have been much more aggro.
>>>>
>>>
>>> don't worry. He thinks everyone is either Garth, Andreas, Andy, or
>>> gwtc. Thats why he's no longer a moz champ, so he can piss others off
>>> and call everyone trolls. Actually, if you asked me, I think he was
>>> booted out.
>>>
>> hmmm. http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org//members.html
>>
>>
> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you told
> this poster you weren't a champion anymore:
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
>
> then I guess you were lying when you said you "retired":
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/6334033696df944c/8f0c12ab6407b01c?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#8f0c12ab6407b01c
>
> Then you say: "if I unretire then I -as a Champion - can't tell some
> people that I think they are idiots!":
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/6334033696df944c/8f0c12ab6407b01c?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#8f0c12ab6407b01c
>
> Boy, Google Search is great! It's amazing what you can find!
>
> So, I guess you are caught in your own little lies, aren't you!
>
> followup set to mozilla.general
>
Partly my fault. Irwin submitted his resignation and I forgot to remove
him from the members list. So now what?
--
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generate the following:? :
> On 15.01.2007 02:31, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>
>> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/14/2007 12:57 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>
>>>> NightStalker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <_JOdna_XyrdDHzfY...@mozilla.org>,
>>>>> oi...@adelphia.net says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> H
>>
>> So, I guess you are caught in your own little lies, aren't you!
>>
>> followup set to mozilla.general
>>
>>
>
> Partly my fault. Irwin submitted his resignation and I forgot to remove
> him from the members list. So now what?
>
>
their swamp....
reg
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> On 2007-01-15 01:54 (-0700 UTC), Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
>> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>>> . . . especially when you manage to catch yourself out.
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean by that
>
> Of course you do! :-P
>
> Let me quote:
>
> <quote cite="emphasis-added">
> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you told
> *this poster* you weren't a champion anymore:
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
>
> </quote>
>
> And so, after so fervently and insistently, uh, insisting that you knew
> nothing of any Andy, Andreas, or gwtc, and that you, in your various
> toonish guises, had only been around these groups since the end of
> November, you post a link that clearly indicates that you are -- or, at
> least were, till you killed 'im off in a boating accident in Georgia
> Strait last Thanksgiving -- gwtc.
>
> :-D
>
> /b.
>
postings in the mozilla.general newsgroup. There is/are some very funny
Shenanigans going on in that group.
And once again Brian, you have confused me with someone else. I am NOT
Andreas, Andy, or gwtc, or anyone else whom you may confuse me with. If
you read the mozilla.general newsgroups, then you'd know that Andreas
told you all to F-off. As I have said I am Grant. Do you want a last
name? Its McPeters. And I live nowhere near Vancouver. You want more?
I'm married, I have two sons and 2 daughters. However, my wife has
had 4 sons and 2 daughters, but thats another story. And I'm retired.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
So, he's still claiming to be a Champ when he's not.
Irwin Greenwald
> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you told
> this poster you weren't a champion anymore:
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
>
So you finally admit to being Andreus, andy, gwwtc, etc.!!
>
> then I guess you were lying when you said you "retired":
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/6334033696df944c/8f0c12ab6407b01c?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#8f0c12ab6407b01c
>
The fact that Jay refuses to remove my name, doesn't change the fact
that I retired.
>
> Then you say: "if I unretire then I -as a Champion - can't tell some
> people that I think they are idiots!":
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/6334033696df944c/8f0c12ab6407b01c?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#8f0c12ab6407b01c
>
Absolutely. You're still an idiot gwtc!!!!
>
> Boy, Google Search is great! It's amazing what you can find!
>
> So, I guess you are caught in your own little lies, aren't you!
But Andreas said gwtc drowned. Since they are the same person and you
are that person, you are as big a liar as I've ever met!!!
>
> followup set to mozilla.general
>
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No, I don't think one can make that deduction in fairness. Just because
a web page hasn't been updated does not make a person a "liar".
How about we all leave this alone, and get on with the business of again
being helpful?
And, Grant, no hard feelings from/towards me, at least, 'K???
I am marking this as deteriorated as in my view carrying on in this
thread by any of us is not productive.
john
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> On 1/15/2007 12:31 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
>> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you
>> told this poster you weren't a champion anymore:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
>>
> So you finally admit to being Andreus, andy, gwwtc, etc.!!
>>
and how do you come to that conclusion out of what I posted? See my
posting to /b:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/OYudnaNcPafhIDbY...@mozilla.org
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/msg/165d53c60050b0b8
Brian Heinrich
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> On 2007-01-15 01:54 (-0700 UTC), Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>
>>> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>>>> . . . especially when you manage to catch yourself out.
>>>
>>> I don't understand what you mean by that
>>
>> Of course you do! :-P
>>
>> Let me quote:
>>
>> <quote cite="emphasis-added">
>> yes, you're still listed there, but I guess you were lying when you
>> told *this poster* you weren't a champion anymore:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/3147591fb07a17a0/40fad75f89376677?tvc=1#40fad75f89376677
>>
>> </quote>
>>
>> And so, after so fervently and insistently, uh, insisting that you
>> knew nothing of any Andy, Andreas, or gwtc, and that you, in your
>> various toonish guises, had only been around these groups since the
>> end of November, you post a link that clearly indicates that you are
>> -- or, at least were, till you killed 'im off in a boating accident in
>> Georgia Strait last Thanksgiving -- gwtc.
>>
>> :-D
>
> the reason I found it so quick is because I've been reading the previous
> postings in the mozilla.general newsgroup. There is/are some very funny
> Shenanigans going on in that group.
Nice recovery on playing off the implicit ambiguity of 'this poster', altho'
I'd venture that most readers would read 'this poster' as being reflexive.
> And once again Brian, you have confused me with someone else. I am NOT
> Andreas, Andy, or gwtc, or anyone else whom you may confuse me with. If
> you read the mozilla.general newsgroups, then you'd know that Andreas
> told you all to F-off. As I have said I am Grant. Do you want a last
> name? Its McPeters. And I live nowhere near Vancouver. You want more?
> I'm married, I have two sons and 2 daughters. However, my wife has had
> 4 sons and 2 daughters, but thats another story. And I'm retired.
I'm kinda curious about a few things, tho'.
TTBOMK, the only time I've mentioned geography to you was in the context of
your mis-spelling of 'criteria', when I wondered if you were trying to give
the B.C. education system a bad name, so why specifically mention Vancouver
in replying to me?
How, even as a putative retiree, do you find the time to read back months
upon months in these newsgroups?
And, finally, TTBOMK, Irwin has done you (Toon Boy -- for the sake of
argument, I'm taking you at your word that you are not Andreas/Andy/gwtc) no
harm and, AFAICT, bears you no ill will . . . so why the sudden and
seemingly uncalled-for vehemence of your attack on him if there is no prior
history between the two of you?
Just wond'rin'. . . .
/b.
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Brian Heinrich
> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
<snip />
>> So you finally admit to being Andreus, andy, gwwtc, etc.!!
>
> and how do you come to that conclusion out of what I posted?
Because most readers would understand 'this poster' to be reflexive.
/b.
<snip />
Daniella
> How, even as a putative retiree, do you find the time to read back
> months upon months in these newsgroups?
Good Point. I love Mozilla news groups, however I just don't have the
time to keep up on the *new* posting more or less going back. I think he
slows down or stops time. I think it's very rude not to share your time
warping technology with your fellow Mozilla brothers and sisters :-) .
BTW speaking of old postings - Brian I just got (today) an Inland
ergonomic keyboard (from newegg.com
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823205007 ). It's
not exactly what I wanted but it was as close as I could find and for
the price I thinking of getting a 2nd one as a backup.
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Didn't you just mentioned Georgia Straits in your previous posting? I
looked that up and its around Vancouver
furthermore, as I was reading the mozilla.general newsgroups, I came
across the posting in question:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.general/browse_frm/thread/fa17f4fefc79b1a8/0db9b73c241a611b?tvc=1#0db9b73c241a611b
which mentioned Georgia Straits, plus it provided another link which
mentioned Vancouver. Now, I know who Andreas and gwtc are, and I can
assure you I am not those people.
Plus, another Brian mentioned it:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/91a4e5024b96fd1/7e06deed75033a15?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4#7e06deed75033a15
> How, even as a putative retiree, do you find the time to read back
> months upon months in these newsgroups?
>
I started to read them this month. It took a while. Unlike the Firefox
or Thunderbird newsgroups, where they have over Fourty Thousand
messages, the mozilla.general has a little less than one thousand six
hundred. Or as google puts it, a little more than 260 topics. Thats
not many messages. I found some of them to be very humorous and silly.
Now I know why reg talks about the Sheriff and Police of the newsgroups.
> And, finally, TTBOMK, Irwin has done you (Toon Boy -- for the sake of
> argument, I'm taking you at your word that you are not
> Andreas/Andy/gwtc) no harm and, AFAICT, bears you no ill will . . . so
> why the sudden and seemingly uncalled-for vehemence of your attack on
> him if there is no prior history between the two of you?
>
yes, priory history. Just his veminous abuse between myself [since
November 2006], garth and a couple of other posters. Plus after reading
the mozilla.general newsgroup, I see that its a common trait he exhibits
towards other posters. I think he has a screw loose, as he's done it to
many others.
Brian Heinrich
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>
>> How, even as a putative retiree, do you find the time to read back
>> months upon months in these newsgroups?
>
> Good Point. I love Mozilla news groups, however I just don't have the
> time to keep up on the *new* posting more or less going back. I think he
> slows down or stops time. I think it's very rude not to share your time
> warping technology with your fellow Mozilla brothers and sisters :-) .
Hah! :-)
I once came up with a theory that it should be possible to take time away
from those who have no use for it (/e.g./, those who whinge about being
bored) and give it to those who just don't have enough of it. The problem,
of course, came about because time seems by nature inexorably to move
forward, and there seemed to be no way to accomplish it without either
completely changing the laws of the universe or hopelessly disrupting the
time-space continuum.
(A correlate of this was the idea that, if you're a student, it's not just
that the amount of work you need to do that increases at certain times of
year, but the actual amount of time available in which to accomplish it
decreases as well; however, this, too, seems to have fallen prey to the
nature of time.)
> BTW speaking of old postings - Brian I just got (today) an Inland
> ergonomic keyboard (from newegg.com
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823205007 ). It's
> not exactly what I wanted but it was as close as I could find and for
> the price I thinking of getting a 2nd one as a backup.
Had a quick boo at it; doesn't look all too bad.
I've actually largely been happy with the M$ keyboard I bought -- it's
already helped reduce the strain/tendonitis in my left arm, tho' the right
arm is another matter, but I recently changed how I mouse, so we'll see in a
couple weeks if that helps -- ; the only issue I've so far encountered is
that drivers for it seem to be difficult to find for Linux, and, although
there's apparently a patch available, I'm a bit leery of recompiling the
kernel just to get support for the sundry additional keys and functions.
Still, I do miss my old LiteOn keyboard with Synaptics touchpad (tho' I
suspect more recent touchpads and drivers are more advanced then this one --
the keyboard's nearly 10 years old!); one of these days, I'll buy a PS/2
converter for the keyboard and see if I can't use one of the additional
ports on the mo/bo to drive the touchpad.
I have to admit that, as a touch typist, I find it somewhat distressing that
ergo keyboards seem to have dropped off the consumer map; it seems that,
unless you're willing to spend a small frigging fortune, good ergo keyboards
are hard to find.
When a LiteOn keyboard identical to the one I had started to die at the
church -- Mom was never able to adjust her hard touch from the manual
typewriter days, and the contact on the right side of the space bar (which,
if I slow down my typing, I realise is by far the more used side; in fact,
I've gotten in the bad habit of using my right thumb even when the left
thumb would normally be called for) started to go, we bought an Adesso
keyboard very much like
<http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D03%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D04%2Ejpg&CurImage=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=ADESSO+PCK%2D308B+Black+PS%2F2+Ergonomics+Keyboard+Built%2DIt+Touchpad+Mouse+Included+%2D+Retail>;
'cos it was the best value for money I could find.
Unfortunately, it has a Cirque touchpad, which sucks most heinously in
comparison to the Synaptics ones, and I found the split space bar irritating
and potentially problematic. . . .
But, for the price, the one you bought seems like a good buy.
If I had the money (which, of course, I don't), I'd definitely be tempted to
consider the products at <http://www.safetype.com/>,
<http://www.datahand.com/>, and the contoured ones at
<http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/>.
<http://www.ergo-items.com/> and <http://www.comfortkeyboard.com/> might be
other sites worth looking at. Since it seems that a Synaptics touchpad
integrated it an ergo keyboard is a thing of the past, I'm still looking for
an ideal pointing device; at first blush,
<http://comfortkeyboard.com/Wheel_Mouse.html> would look more promising were
it not that I use a reverse grade on my keyboard, but
<http://comfortkeyboard.com/ergo_trackball.html> definitely looks promising.
Daniella
> On 2007-01-16 10:16 (-0700 UTC), Daniella wrote:
Snip
>> I just got (today) an Inland ergonomic keyboard (from newegg.com
>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823205007 ). It's
>> not exactly what I wanted
Snip
> bought an Adesso keyboard very much like
> <http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D03%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D04%2Ejpg&CurImage=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=ADESSO+PCK%2D308B+Black+PS%2F2+Ergonomics+Keyboard+Built%2DIt+Touchpad+Mouse+Included+%2D+Retail>;
> 'cos it was the best value for money I could find.
>
> Unfortunately, it has a Cirque touchpad,
I know Cirque touchpad >:o yech
> But, for the price, the one you bought seems like a good buy.
>
> If I had the money (which, of course, I don't), I'd definitely be
> tempted to consider the products at <http://www.safetype.com/>,
> <http://www.datahand.com/>, and the contoured ones at
> <http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/>.
>
> <http://www.ergo-items.com/> and <http://www.comfortkeyboard.com/> might
> be other sites worth looking at. Since it seems that a Synaptics
> touchpad integrated it an ergo keyboard is a thing of the past, I'm
> still looking for an ideal pointing device; at first blush,
> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/Wheel_Mouse.html> would look more promising
> were it not that I use a reverse grade on my keyboard, but
> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/ergo_trackball.html> definitely looks
> promising. . . .
That one looks a lot like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017
Some of the keyboards and stuff you pointed out look very cool, some
(like the Comfort Keyboard) are going on my wish list.
So you must have seen the other trackballs at newegg? The one I have is
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104125 (....and
no I don't work at newegg :-D , I just shop there a lot)
I wrote a review for it when I was shopping for my keyboard. I'm
"PoisonFor3"; that's where the "PF3" in my "PF3_Newsgroups" (the name I
use for news groups) comes from. One thing I did not put in the review
is that your hand sits a little sideways and it seems to help the
ergonomics of it, what SafeType calls Pronation.
I have put a folded towel down in fount of my keyboard and mouse to help
with making my hand angle is better, what SafeType calls Deviation. It
helped with the deviation but I can never get my chair up high enough to
have good extension (another term I got from SafeType); plus it looks
dumb. I don't like the under the table or end of table extensions
because I like the armrests on my new chair and my arms and elbows on
the table. One thing I have given thought to is cutting a hole in my
desktop and sinking the keyboard about 3 to 4 cm. It seems to me I have
seen something like that years ago. I think it was one of them things
that was a good idea that just never took off ..... or maybe not.
Brian Heinrich
> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> On 2007-01-16 10:16 (-0700 UTC), Daniella wrote:
>
> Snip
>
>>> I just got (today) an Inland ergonomic keyboard (from newegg.com
>>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16823205007 ). It's
>>> not exactly what I wanted
>
> Snip
>
>> bought an Adesso keyboard very much like
>> <http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D03%2Ejpg%2C23%2D166%2D028%2D04%2Ejpg&CurImage=23%2D166%2D028%2D02%2Ejpg&Description=ADESSO+PCK%2D308B+Black+PS%2F2+Ergonomics+Keyboard+Built%2DIt+Touchpad+Mouse+Included+%2D+Retail>;
>> 'cos it was the best value for money I could find.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it has a Cirque touchpad,
>
> I know Cirque touchpad >:o yech
I was absolutely stunned to discover the difference between the Synaptics
touchpads and the Cirque ones. If my first experience with a touchpad has
been with a Cirque, I'd hate 'em . . . rather than lamenting the fact that I
can't find an ergo keyboard with a Synaptics touchpad.
>> But, for the price, the one you bought seems like a good buy.
>>
>> If I had the money (which, of course, I don't), I'd definitely be
>> tempted to consider the products at <http://www.safetype.com/>,
>> <http://www.datahand.com/>, and the contoured ones at
>> <http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/>.
>>
>> <http://www.ergo-items.com/> and <http://www.comfortkeyboard.com/>
>> might be other sites worth looking at. Since it seems that a
>> Synaptics touchpad integrated it an ergo keyboard is a thing of the
>> past, I'm still looking for an ideal pointing device; at first blush,
>> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/Wheel_Mouse.html> would look more
>> promising were it not that I use a reverse grade on my keyboard, but
>> <http://comfortkeyboard.com/ergo_trackball.html> definitely looks
>> promising. . . .
>
> That one looks a lot like this one
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826125017
They don't look too dissimilar, tho' the one to which I pointed seems more
rugged. . . .
> Some of the keyboards and stuff you pointed out look very cool, some
> (like the Comfort Keyboard) are going on my wish list.
>
> So you must have seen the other trackballs at newegg? The one I have is
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104125 (....and
> no I don't work at newegg :-D , I just shop there a lot)
If memory serves, it was one of the Logitech ones designed for right-handed
people. Problem is, I'm neither strictly right-handed nor strictly
right-handed, so while I tend to use a mouse primarily with my right hand,
there are times when I don't.
For instance, my right elbow's been giving me enough problems in the past
little while (I suspect because of the position of the mouse) that I
switched my mouse so that I could use it with my left hand. Hopefully that
helps remove some of the strain. (I'm guessing it's a good thing that
no-one else really uses this computer. :-P)
> I wrote a review for it when I was shopping for my keyboard. I'm
> "PoisonFor3"; that's where the "PF3" in my "PF3_Newsgroups" (the name I
> use for news groups) comes from. One thing I did not put in the review
> is that your hand sits a little sideways and it seems to help the
> ergonomics of it, what SafeType calls Pronation.
Very much like the M$ keyboard I bought. In fact, I suspect that's been
causing my elbow to twist when I reach for the mouse, and that's what's
causing the problems. . . .
> I have put a folded towel down in fount of my keyboard and mouse to help
> with making my hand angle is better, what SafeType calls Deviation. It
> helped with the deviation but I can never get my chair up high enough to
> have good extension (another term I got from SafeType); plus it looks
> dumb. I don't like the under the table or end of table extensions
> because I like the armrests on my new chair and my arms and elbows on
> the table.
One thing that I've tended to do is set my keyboard so that my forearms are
actually touching the edge of the table; it just seems to help keep my
wrists at a better angle.
> One thing I have given thought to is cutting a hole in my
> desktop and sinking the keyboard about 3 to 4 cm. It seems to me I have
> seen something like that years ago. I think it was one of them things
> that was a good idea that just never took off ..... or maybe not.
The real issue, I find, is that most people don't sit high enough -- or sit
too high -- in relation to the surface on which their keyboard rests. You
can use extension as a way of partly adjusting for that.
Then again, given how I've seen some people (younger women in particular)
sit when they type, I wonder how they manage to type at all -- let alone
type at something over 60 words a minute!