Re: Where's gwtc
Leonidas Jones
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
I am so sorry to hear about the tragic loss of your friend, I know how
close you were.
On the other hand, it is good to have you back Andreas!
Lee
squaredancer
generate the following:? :
>I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
>but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
>My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed
>in a boating mishap.
>
>If you read this message:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
>or
>news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
>then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch.
>We {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a
>care in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right
>into a pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a
>sudden one of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat.
> At that exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him
>right on the back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't
>get him out. Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled
>us out, he was already dead.
>
>Andreas
>
>
>
well - we will sure miss that ornery ol' man... please extend my
condolences to his family.
I sure hope for yourself that you can get over the apalling shock of
experiencing such a horror trip!
reg
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
Only someone with a morbid mentality would think such a thing.
Regardless of his posting acumen, etc. it's always sad to hear of a
tragedy that has befallen an acquaintance regardless of the venue.
If you don't mind, how about posting a bit more bio on GWTC or point us
to a site where we can get a bit more info on him. Thanks. Pass along
the condolences from all of us at Netscape, this group and those
associated with anything to do with Mozilla, etc.
--
Jay Garcia Netscape/Mozilla Champion
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
The Real Bev
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed
> in a boating mishap.
That's terrible. I hope somebody finds comfort in tears shed by a
stranger, but I probably wouldn't.
Godspeed.
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
We're all "strangers" here to one another except for those of us that
aren't.
Irwin Greenwald
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
"dancing in the streets". I am appalled at the accident that took him
and more so at your having to witness it. As others have said, my
condolences to you for the loss of a friend and - of course - to his
family. Like Jay, I would like to learn more about the man.
Irwin
Ed Mullen
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
What terrible news. I'm very sorry to hear about this. My condolences
to you and all of his friends and family.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
How much deeper would oceans be if sponges didn't live there?
Charani
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed
> in a boating mishap.
8>< snip
I am very, very sorry to hear this. He was a great guy and so helpful
with a lovely sense of humour.
He'll be sorely missed.
My condolences and prayers to you and to gwtc's family and other
friends.
Alex K.
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> in a boating mishap.
How very tragic. My sincere condolences to you, his family, & friends.
Please don't take the following the wrong way, it is not meant as a
scolding or rebuke, just a statement of my thoughts on the subject.
Although he occasionally rubbed me the wrong way, I certainly won't be
dancing in the streets, and I really don't believe that any of the
regulars here would be either.
We may have our disagreements here, from time to time, but then, that is
the nature of newsgroups, forums, etc., anywhere opinions are expressed.
But I don't believe that disagreement translates into wishing someone
dead, for most reasonable people, anyway. We may wish they would go
away sometimes, but not in this permanent sense.
Although I can only really speak for myself, I would like to think that
the other regulars here think/feel the same way. Optimistic? Maybe,
but that's what I would like to believe.
Again, my sincere condolences.
--
Alex K.
Bill
past few weeks and had been asking where he'd got to. A tragedy for all
concerned. My prayers are with those who loved him.
Bill
Ron Lopshire
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
Sorry to hear of your (and our) loss, Andreas. I will miss gwtc's
input _and_ style. I have always appreciated the iconoclasts of the world.
Ron :-(
squaredancer
>Andreas wrote:
..... yepp, Ron - and not to mention *all those* "to be continued
tomorrow" that we will now *never* get to read...
reg
Leonidas Jones
You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Andreas just might happen to have
access to gw's story archive. Maybe! ;)
Lee
NoOp
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
Not likely.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed
> in a boating mishap.
>
Please accept my sincere condolences. I rather liked GWTC.
Gotta admit it was certainly one heck of a way to go...
R.I.P. GWTC
Skree
> Andreas wrote:
>> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
>> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>>
>> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed
>> in a boating mishap.
>>
>> If you read this message:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
>>
>> or
>> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>>
>> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch.
>> We {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a
>> care in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right
>> into a pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a
>> sudden one of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our
>> boat. At that exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed
>> him right on the back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but
>> coudn't get him out. Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they
>> pulled us out, he was already dead.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>
> What terrible news. I'm very sorry to hear about this. My condolences
> to you and all of his friends and family.
>
I wish to offer my condolences.
I've only been on this group a little while, but I always looked forward
to GWTC's "to be continued" sigs.
I also found his help straight forward and sincere.
Again, we've all lost someone who cared enough about others to offer his
help and with in this forum.
My best wishes to his friends and family
Kenn
caver1
going is fitting. All the best to his family.
Frank Wein
> You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Andreas just might happen to have
> access to gw's story archive. Maybe! ;)
>
> Lee
I must admit the story sounds a bit strange and I also haven't found
anything on the internet about such an accident recently...maybe I'm a
bit too wary, but there has been abuse with such things in the past on
the Usenet and on the internet in general.
Frank
Ed Mullen
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
>
> a boating mishap.
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
Andreas,
Can you provide any links to press coverage of this tragedy? I've tried
searching extensively online since you posted to no avail. It would
seem that such an event would have caught the attention of local (if not
national) press.
A Clean House Is A Sign Of A Misspent Life
Leonidas Jones
I would wonder too, but knowing the close relationship between GW and
Andreas, I fear the worst has occurred.
Lee
HJ van Rantwijk
Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
/HJ
Mumia W. (using mozilla)
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
My condolences go to you and to GWTC's family. He will be missed.
Richard
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> then you would have found out that he was going on a boat for lunch. We
> {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a care
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
>
> Andreas
>
Ive had to redo my machine and have been out of touch for a few days.
So sorry to hear about GWTC, if this is true, this is a true tragedy and
he will be sorely missed, I loved reading his opinions and sometimes
taking things up with him, like his "freepops".
Bill
Sep 22 to Oct 30. I hope Andreas tells us more!
Bill
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
> Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
>
> /HJ
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at biz-web.ca.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<un...@coastguardsix.ca>:
Recipient's mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 05.11.2006 00:57, HJ van Rantwijk wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
>>> Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
>>>
>>> /HJ
>>
>>
>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at biz-web.ca.
>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>
>> <un...@coastguardsix.ca>:
>> Recipient's mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
>>
>
> You know what? This hurts! This really hurts! I tell you about the
> death of my friend and this is how you treat me. Some of you don't
> believe it and are saying that it didn't happen because you can't find
> anything on the 'net. Well excuse me, but not everything that goes on
> in this world is on the friken 'net! Or that it didn't happen because
> it wasn't in the local papers or radio. Now, some of you are going as
> far as contacting the local Coast Guard to verify this. You can't
> take the word of someone. Well, piss on you! No . . . fuck you!
> FUCK ALL OF YOU!!!! I'm outta here. Good riddens.
>
> Andreas
> the former Mozilla helper
>
Pardon me !!! You supplied the email address to the Coast Guard. If you
didn't want anyone to send a mail then why did you post it? All I wanted
was to ask for a link to a news article or a detailed report. I did not
send the email to challenge the authenticity of your story about GTWC. I
believe your report, I just wanted more info on our friend GWTC, that's
it nothing more.
Leonidas Jones
Didn't HJ supply the mailto link?
Lee
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
Oh, yah, you're right ... Then Andreas should have responded to that as
well. Wonder why not?
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 05.11.2006 00:57, HJ van Rantwijk wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
>>> Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
>>>
>>> /HJ
Sorry, I thought you had posted the address. below is exactly what I
emailed to that address.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sir, please note the post below in one of our newsgroups. Since GWTC was
one of our posters, we were saddened to hear of his untimely demise.
Would you please be so kind as to direct me to a news story or even
supply documentation as to the event so that we may become more
knowledgeable as regards this tragedy.
>> We {I was there}, were sailing around in the Georgia Straits without a
>> >> care in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right
>> >> into a pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a
>> >> sudden one of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our
>> >> boat. At that exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed
>> >> him right on the back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but
>> >> coudn't get him out. Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they
>> >> pulled us out, he was already dead.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ed Mullen
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 05.11.2006 00:57, HJ van Rantwijk wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
>>> Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
>>>
>>> /HJ
>>
>>
>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at biz-web.ca.
>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>> addresses.
>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>
>> <un...@coastguardsix.ca>:
>> Recipient's mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
>>
>
> death of my friend and this is how you treat me. Some of you don't
> believe it and are saying that it didn't happen because you can't find
> anything on the 'net. Well excuse me, but not everything that goes on
> in this world is on the friken 'net! Or that it didn't happen because
> it wasn't in the local papers or radio. Now, some of you are going as
> far as contacting the local Coast Guard to verify this. You can't take
> the word of someone. Well, piss on you! No . . . fuck you! FUCK ALL OF
> YOU!!!! I'm outta here. Good riddens.
>
> Andreas
> the former Mozilla helper
>
Why no reply to my (polite) query upthread? Nor to Jay's query of 11/3?
And now to all of a sudden jump in here with this?
Every comment made in reply to your OP has been supportive and humane.
No one intimated that it didn't happen, we were just honestly curious
for more details on the incident and the man.
They show you how detergents take out bloodstains. I think if you've got
a T-shirt with bloodstains all over it, maybe your laundry isn't your
biggest problem.
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> Why no reply to my (polite) query upthread? Nor to Jay's query of 11/3?
> And now to all of a sudden jump in here with this?
>
> Every comment made in reply to your OP has been supportive and humane.
> No one intimated that it didn't happen, we were just honestly curious
> for more details on the incident and the man.
>
The "silence" is deafining isn't it.
That's all I wanted was more information to better get a handle on "G".
I have an acquaintance that is a member of GSA (Georgia Straits
Administration). I emailed him with the inquiry, surely they should know
something or a link to a news account. Could be that it's being witheld
for family reasons at the moment, who knows.
squaredancer
generate the following:? :
>On 06.11.2006 11:17, Ed Mullen wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>
>
>>Why no reply to my (polite) query upthread? Nor to Jay's query of 11/3?
>> And now to all of a sudden jump in here with this?
>>
>>Every comment made in reply to your OP has been supportive and humane.
>>No one intimated that it didn't happen, we were just honestly curious
>>for more details on the incident and the man.
>>
>>
>>
>
>The "silence" is deafining isn't it.
>
>
yeah, well... Andreas' last post *WAS* rather ultimate, wasn't it :-(
reg
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> On 06/11/2006 20:08, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Jay Garcia to
> generate the following:? :
>
>>On 06.11.2006 11:17, Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>
>>
>>>Why no reply to my (polite) query upthread? Nor to Jay's query of 11/3?
>>> And now to all of a sudden jump in here with this?
>>>
>>>Every comment made in reply to your OP has been supportive and humane.
>>>No one intimated that it didn't happen, we were just honestly curious
>>>for more details on the incident and the man.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The "silence" is deafining isn't it.
>>
>>
>
> yeah, well... Andreas' last post *WAS* rather ultimate, wasn't it :-(
>
> reg
>
>>That's all I wanted was more information to better get a handle on "G".
>>
>>I have an acquaintance that is a member of GSA (Georgia Straits
>>Administration). I emailed him with the inquiry, surely they should know
>>something or a link to a news account. Could be that it's being witheld
>>for family reasons at the moment, who knows.
>>
>>
>>
>
True but after we explained our intentions he should reply in kind IMHO
of course.
The Real Bev
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>
>>On 06.11.2006 11:17, Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
>>>Why no reply to my (polite) query upthread? Nor to Jay's query of 11/3?
>>>And now to all of a sudden jump in here with this?
>>>
>>>Every comment made in reply to your OP has been supportive and humane.
>>>No one intimated that it didn't happen, we were just honestly curious
>>>for more details on the incident and the man.
>>
>>The "silence" is deafining isn't it.
>
> yeah, well... Andreas' last post *WAS* rather ultimate, wasn't it :-(
I emailed him saying roughly the same thing this morning. No response yet.
I find it truly amazing that the death of people we know only by
posts/email can affect us so strongly. I've "known" perhaps half a
dozen people who died, some by accident, some by disease and some by
suicide, and all affected me more than the deaths of certain real people
I've known.
Perhaps that makes us better people than we thought we were, or at least
less cynical. Or something.
>>That's all I wanted was more information to better get a handle on "G".
>>
>>I have an acquaintance that is a member of GSA (Georgia Straits
>>Administration). I emailed him with the inquiry, surely they should know
>>something or a link to a news account. Could be that it's being witheld
>>for family reasons at the moment, who knows.
--
Cheers,
Bev
Irwin Greenwald
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Greg Miller <un...@coastguardsix.ca> is the regional Coast Guard Unit
>>> Leader and his unit works in the Georgia Strait. Why don't you ask him?
>>>
>>> /HJ
>>
>>
>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at biz-web.ca.
>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>> addresses.
>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>
>> <un...@coastguardsix.ca>:
>> Recipient's mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
>>
>
> death of my friend and this is how you treat me. Some of you don't
> believe it and are saying that it didn't happen because you can't find
> anything on the 'net. Well excuse me, but not everything that goes on
> in this world is on the friken 'net! Or that it didn't happen because
> it wasn't in the local papers or radio. Now, some of you are going as
> far as contacting the local Coast Guard to verify this. You can't take
> the word of someone. Well, piss on you! No . . . fuck you! FUCK ALL OF
> YOU!!!! I'm outta here. Good riddens.
>
> Andreas
> the former Mozilla helper
>
Now that sounds just like mhornyt (AKA critters)!
--
Irwin
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John McWilliams
> I know a lot of you will be dancing in the streets when you hear this,
> but if he was here today he really couldn't care less.
>
> My long time friend, mentor and business associate, GWTC, was killed in
> a boating mishap.
>
> If you read this message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/c079fee0dc0abfe1
> or
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/N8adnaAys5GOKIjY...@mozilla.org
>
> in the world. Without realizing it, we happened to sail right into a
> pod of killer whales. They came out of now where. All of a sudden one
> of the killer whales surfaced and hit the side of our boat. At that
> exact moment, G stood up and the boom swung and smashed him right on the
> back of his head. He went over. I jumped in, but coudn't get him out.
> Luckily, the Coast Guard was near by. When they pulled us out, he was
> already dead.
My sincere condolences to you and all his family and friends. He is missed.
--
John McWilliams
user
Why do you guys pick on Andreas, he's the smartest participant in the group.